No.913323
What are you all scanning, uploading, translating, cleaning, and typesetting?
No.913325
[Mushikera Hoihoi] Yakusoku no Yoru ni | On the promised Night (2D Comic Magazine Yuri Ninshin Vol. 4) [English] [/yuri/ Scanlations] [Digital]
>>>/yuri/251
First /yuri/ release. Hello /a/!
No.913348
I tried scanlating once (the whole process, not just participating in one easy stage like typesetting or QC) but I did such a shitty job of the translation that I am ashamed to say what it was.
No.913355
>>913348
Realizing that it wasn't very good is the first step to getting better at it anon, what was it?
No.913357
Usually nothing, since cleaning is hard when you have no artistic skill and typesetting is a pain when you have no design sense. I tend to stick to LNs.
But, you motivated me OP. I got around to finishing something I've been meaning to translate for a long time. A literal shitposting isekai manga.
No.913359
>>913357
>>913358
Oh, and by "finish" I mean the first chapter of the pre-serialization. There's quite a few left to go.
No.913384
>>913357
>>913358
>>913359
Oh that's great. Some anon posted about it in a Tekyuu thread. It's by the same author, right? I never thought somebody would translate it.
>parody isekai
>Dungeon Meshi-inspired cover art
I'm loving it already.
No.913387
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>913384
>It's by the same author, right?
Yep. And that anon was probably also me.
Roots is a professional shitposter. He has several crappy 4komas running, I think he streams or used to stream on nico, and now he's even making his own "anime" adaptation of one of his older manga using live 2D. Most of it I find pretty shitty, but from what I've seen he and his stuff is pretty popular with nips, by internet standards at least.
Isn't that cover in Dungeon Meshi itself a reference to a D&D cover or something?
No.913391
>>913387
>Isn't that cover in Dungeon Meshi itself a reference to a D&D cover or something?
Could be. DM is heavily inspired by old school D&D but I can't recall any cover that really looks like this.
I way mainly referring to the color scheme and whole "posing with his tools of trade" thing.
No.913393
I have some doujinshi that have not been scanned yet. I don't have a scanner and a good one is too expensive. Can I "scan" using my camera with good lenses or is it a terrible idea?
No.913395
>>913393
Depends how good your camera and your lighting is, I suppose.
No.913400
>>913325
>>913329
>direct linking to your board in the credit page
That's a terrible idea and you'll be flooded with normalfags.
>board doesn't allow NSFW loli
You deserve the flood of normalfags.
What's even the point of that board existing? /u/ already exists, and despite a few problems I have with it at least it doesn't ban loli.
No.913404
Here's chapter 2.
I'm not going to be uploading these anywhere else for a while. I want to sit on them and think about anything I might have to change before I make them widely available. If anyone has any suggestions or spots something I'm doing wrong, please bully.
No.913406
>>913400
>What's even the point of that board existing? /u/ already exists, and despite a few problems I have with it at least it doesn't ban loli.
Some scanlator from /a/ took over the board in 2015. The guy did his damned hardest to keep the board alive. Last year his two volunteers fell out over the amount /pol/ shit being posted and the BO resigned. One volunteer stayed on /u/ and the other took over /yuri/.
No.913407
>>913400
>direct linking to your board in the credit page
Been happening in 8/u/ since 2016 or whenever they started scanlations.
No.913412
>>913405
This series is both terrible and amazing. Thank you, anon. Your work so far has been good.
No.913414
>>913357
>cleaning is hard when you have no artistic skill and typesetting is a pain when you have no design sense
I feel you.
At the moment I've decided to confine myself to the very easiest works. The doujin I'm currently doing is entirely narration nicely contained in rectangular boxes. No shouts, no out-of-bubble asides, no variations in typeface or colour or texture. No sense of aesthetics needed.
No.913415
>>913412
I think it gets a little bit better with the serialization. Roots' art is still amateurish but for a manga about pooing it can look pretty nice at times. I certainly would watch the anime short if it got one if it had Grimgar-tier backgrounds.
While I'm at it, I might as well ask: How the fuck do you clean things on a screentone background?
No.913416
>>913415
>How the fuck do you clean things on a screentone background?
Clone tool. Often you don't even need to worry about matching up the grid.
No.913464
>>913348
Yeah, better to be real about your skill level and hold yourself to a high standard and improve before continuing rather than remain in denial and put out a bunch of shit translations. Way too many of those types polluting the waters already.
>>913329
>>913400
>board doesn't allow NSFW loli
Such a large amount of yuri content is loli that it's absolutely stupid to ban it. Whether it's classics like Nanoha or more recent popular stuff like Kobayashi. Limiting relevant discussion because of your own personal agenda or preferences is not the mark of a board I'd ever want to visit. I'd much rather deal with some of the extraneous off-topics than that. If I wanted to be limited by moderator's personal opinions, I'd go to 4/u/. Especially considering that even there you can get away with some level of loli-porn posting.
No.913467
>>913464
4/u/ discusses trannies more than it discusses yuri. I don't know what's wrong with yuri boards, they've never been able to stay on topic.
>4/u/ argues about trannies and blogposts about being fat lesbians
>8/u/ argues about trannies and discusses genocide of non-whites
>/yuri/ bans loli
A good yuri board isn't happening any time soon
No.913472
>>913415
>How the fuck do you clean things on a screentone background?
Clone stamp tool. It also helps a lot when the raws are scanned well and you don't have moire patterns forming or the scanner's inbuilt image compression fucking up the pattern. The level beyond this is when you get sick of clone stamping, and you collect large areas of patterns that you can copy-paste in. Use layer masks to make them only cover what is necessary.
Sometimes a screentone pattern still stands out from the unedited background. This is often due to a contrast in the overall brightness between the two. Something that helps is to use a very soft brush with the opacity set to 1 or 2 percent, in addition or subtraction blending mode, to slightly adjust the brightness of the piece of screentone until it matches the background.
Off-topic Between the loli ban and the fact that the original moderators leaving was due to too much /pol/ stuff for them to deal with, I suspect /yuri/ is less "/u/ without any politics" and more "/u/ with our preferred brand of shitty politics".
No.913480
I'm subbing Hiatari Ryoukou!. I was going to make a thread when I had enough episodes finished.
No.913495
>私は私を犯し
>私に犯され
Selfcest orgies make for some unusual phrases.
No.913502
Well, I ended up spending an unhealthy amount of time finishing up this chapter in a single sitting.
No.913506
>>913480
Looking forward to it, anon.
No.913838
Would anyone actually follow this manga if I translated it regularly? Not even I'm sure I want to keep doing it at this point. But it's the first serious attempt at cleaning and typesetting I've done so at least it's a learning experience. And what I'm learning is cleaning and typesetting fucking sucks.
No.913842
>>913838
Yeah I totally would. It's completely retarded but i love it.
Actually I think you should make a thread to heh dump it.
No.914080
>>913842
>>913838
Actually, why not make a thread for the chapters you've translated so far? I feel like this one flying under the radar of most anons.
No.914201
>>913842
>>914080
I don't really see the point, I might as well just dump them here. Starting a new thread would be a waste.
Gigii is getting sick of Youtarou's shit.
No.914207
>>914202
Being a modern pooper in a fantasy world is suffering.
No.914209
>>914201
The way you've done the furigana feels pretty disruptive when reading.
I'm not sure what the best way to do them is. You might be able to reformat things to eliminate the furigana altogether, and just have it normal text.
No.914340
>>914209
I did omit furigana whenever the reading worked by itself, such as with the "Aqua Slash" >>913838 but they keep using weird made-up words that don't really tell you what they mean. If I just ignore them and leave only the actual meaning it feels like losing some of the depth in the translation, especially since it seems to be a distinguishing thing about this manga and I want to retain the weirdness and dumbness of Japanese made-up fantasy words whenever I can. but if I just use the furigana readings it would end up confusing since I don't think it's really intuitive that "Encha Mapinion" is supposed to mean a magic map.
No.914387
>>914202
It already has more interesting world building and stays focused on it's premise longer than 90% of all modern isekai.
No.914567
>>913323
Nothing but I finally got around to reading a fan scan of V-Saga and I'm annoyed by all the vulgarity, because that is not time period accurate. People like that Czech who made Kingdom Come don't realize that obscenities and expletives are not something religious, especially highly-superstitious people are known to do. Those words are considered bad for a reason, but "everyone does it now so clearly they've always done it!".
Now, I'm saying they didn't at all, as people are different, and you're bound to find a colorful character or two. But if you want proof that people won't curse when in a dire situation or in pain, watch that guy Coyote Peterson (I think that was his name anyway) on YouTube have bugs painfully bite him. While they may edit out any certain curses, he does a pretty good job of not cursing, and they don't really jumpcut that much (at least the two I saw) during the biting-pain scenes.
No.914572
>>913502
>>913503
>>913504
>>913838
>>913839
>>914201
>>914202
Amazing. But how did he not notice the slime riding up his ass?
No.914600
>>914572
Can't stop to think about what's going up your ass when you're focused on what's coming out of it.
No.914633
This wouldn't be the first thing I'd use a dark elf's fresh thighhighs for, but you do you, Youtarou.
No.914724
A question. Are there any commissionable translation services these days that are good to use? I have historically used SaHa and desudesu0 and a couple of other ones, but they're both gone, and I'm totally out of the loop as far as doujin works. I'm specifically interested in a script-only translation for certain Neptunia works, because someone on Nepgen is interested in doing the actual typesetting and such, but failing that I'll do that part.
>>913472
Seconding this. It's honestly quite impressive what you can get done with clone tool, and a bit of ingenuity.
>>913467
That's sad considering one of the old ads on 8chan.
No.914737
>>914724
If it's not too much to translate, like a couple of doujins, I could do it for free.
No.914745
>>914737
Fair warning they're all H works, they just have cuter parts because for whatever reason Blanc attracts more vanilla and sweetness than the rest, the majority of Neptunia doujinshi are horrible. If you're still happy to do them I won't knock it back. Still though it'd be nice to know for future reference if there's any commission options out there. In particular, I won't expect you to do the lengthy author commentary on these which is normally something I'd ask for when commissioning.
That said I'll confirm which were the priority or if they'd prefer some of the official works stuff done instead. These 3 were linked though and of interest to the typesetter, and the image I posted was from #3. All of them are pretty short around 20 images.
Panda mirrors because Hitomi.la is cancer like Gelbooru.
https://exhentai.org/g/1113547/367230ba23/
https://exhentai.org/g/1022758/4e75810cca/
https://exhentai.org/g/976318/864b337d04/
hitomi.la/galleries/1113547.html
hitomi.la/galleries/1022758.html
hitomi.la/galleries/976318.html
No.914747
>>914745
Oh and addendum: I'm open to ideas on compensating you in an alternative way if you want to suggest something.
No.914750
>>914633
>Youtarou only thinks about taking a shit
>Naruelle doesn't even give one
Has he even done anything useful so far? Even in that Dragon fight flashback he's laying face down in the dirt. Maybe he'll one day introduce the girls to the comforts of modern day shitting.
> a dark elf
I thought that she's a (half-)demon because of her tail. Or is that just an accessory?
No.914779
>>914745
I translated the first one, but it didn't take me very long to realize the fact that I don't know much about neps might be an issue. I don't think I fucked up anything major but I don't think I'll get around to translating the other two any time soon at least.
https://pastebin.com/TbtSSkLP
No.914781
>>914779
Don't be too concerned about it. I'll cross-check.
No.914803
Today the gang investigates the designated shitting streets.
No.914804
>>914803
And Youtarou fucking dies.
No.915085
Christ I was just kidding.
No.915262
Sorry girls, Youtarou is a toiletsexual.
No.915290
Thanks for all the hard work. Please never stop translating this. How many chapters are there so far?
>>915264
Wait, how did that thing even die?
No.915319
>>913348
Same here, but I'm going through it again and releasing a better version. No more dishonor to my famiry!
>>913405
>>913404
I find the text "floating" and going outside the bubbles interesting. I've been struggling with big blocks of text myself, maybe I should try this method.
No.915421
>>915290
It's up to chapter 8 so far. 2 more and I'll be caught up.
>>915319
Honestly these raws are high enough resolution that I could have probably made the text smaller so it always fits in the speech bubbles, but since I'm already covering up some of the art with the text that's laid directly over the panels I figured I might as well make it easier to read even if I have to go out of the panels a little.
Just make sure you're using a font that doesn't have retardedly wasteful line spacing by default because a lot of them do, or if you do have to use one try to modify the line spacing yourself. You'll want all the vertical space you can get.
No.915428
>>914779
Had a go with one page. I assume I'm following your script correctly? I have a few comments.
>Lowee Church
I'm not totally sure if this is meant to be Basilicom, that's generally how the place the Goddesses reside in is named in the games.
>H-Hey, this is the Nepgear that showed up in Reverse 3! (explanation tone)
I had to see the next line to understand the odd wording. I don't actually remember the name of Nepgear's invention but I can check that in-game with the Re;translation. Also it's Re;birth 3.
>We also need to plug this alpha test Kashatt (Casette [TN: More likely cartridge]) into the
Nepgear.
I'm assuming "cartridge" is correct.
Oh, and it's pretty clear that the author enjoyed 4GO it references pretty much all the silly events in that game. Unfortunately his afterword makes me a bit salty since he fell for mobile's siren song.
No.915431
>>915428
I think you should make the text on that message start from the left side and be mostly off-screen. That's what I meant with the -'s, since you can't actually read much of what it says.
No.915723
>>915421
>It's up to chapter 8 so far. 2 more and I'll be caught up.
Nice. Are you going to upload it to some manga reading websites?
No.915755
>>915723
Probably going to put it up on mangadex after I'm caught up. Anywhere else I should upload it?
Also,
Chinchin.
No.915760
I'm pretty sure he'll summon Golgothan one day. Well he basically met him in the sewers chapter already.
>>915755
>Anywhere else I should upload it?
Maybe mangakakalot? The site loads fast and doesn't put any shit watermarks on the pages which is good enough by me.
No.916128
For any anons doing scanlation in GIMP, I have written a few scripts to make the process faster and easier. Mostly aimed at typesetting.
Scripts include:
- Create outline for text.
- Convert text to path (for rotation)
- Create fill and outline for path
etc.
https://gitlab.com/KiuXEX/gimp-scan-plugin
I'd love to hear about other people's workflow. Any scripts? What programs do you use?
No.916131
>>916128
Looks useful; I've been doing everything manually.
Will the version of Gimp matter? I know a fair bit changed between 2.8, which seems to still be prevalent, and 2.10, which is the version I'm using.
No.916133
>>916131
I don't think the version should matter. The only problem I can think of is if any of the functions I use don't exist or are deprecated. I wrote these for 2.10 though, so you're good.
The Windows installer script assumes version 2.10 because I can't be assed to learn cmd globbing. If using another version, you can specify an install path explicitly.
No.916134
This one was a fucking chore to do.
>>916128
I use Paint.net. Some of the plugins I have are useful but it's pretty shit for cleaning and for typesetting especially, since I end up doing a lot of it manually sometimes. I'd like to move on to something else but I doubt that'll be gimp.
No.916136
Oh, and I put it up on mangadex now.
No.916141
>>916134
>This one was a fucking chore to do.
Well thank you for getting shit done. I hope you keep doing this series.
Do you know if this is promo art or something?
No.916145
>>916141
No idea where the first one comes from, but the second one just says it got serialized in Young Champion Retsu and when it's going to start being published.
No.916193
>>916145
I can't find the first image either. I was only able too find the second one along with some more art on his blog.
http://soituhasugeeya.blog47.fc2.com/
No.916486
>>914745
Translated the second one. Again, take it with a pinch of salt in case I messed something up since I don't know much about the franchise. Especially that xbox parody.
https://pastebin.com/6x3GRgNV
I actually quite like these doujins now. The amateurishness only makes them more charming.
No.916516
>>916486
Sorry I've been lazy with those, partly out of distraction, partly frustration with certain SFX cleaning that I may have to compromise on. I'll try to pick up the pace. You're definitely appreciated for helping with some actual nice Neptunia works.
No.916549
Judge and confirm script is correctly applied. Less happy with the SFX on this.
No.916555
>>916549
Addition: I know the last speech bubble is meant to be on the next page, and that I used the wrong colour.
No.916610
Fixed 08, and I'm starting the H part first because of the translucent bubbles. They're annoying. Minor request, if you end up doing #3, can you annotate the file with which pages a part corresponds to like I've attempted with the first script? Keeping track of that is rough. I can probably figure out repeated SFX but I'm probably unable to handle those anyway.
https://pastebin.com/ds194EJC
Also with page 11, top-right:
>Since we're already this far, want to see if we can actually do it?
>...Very well. Come.
Just cross-checking since Blanc seems to be asking a question in the Japanese not (You).
Finally, do you want any form of credit, or to be the one uploading it to the panda and such? I'm not gonna do anything stupid like >>913407 mind. By the way you happened to coincide #2 with my birthday, it's partly why I'm trying to take responsibility.
No.916612
>>916610
>can you annotate the file with which pages a part corresponds to like I've attempted with the first script
Sure. I'll get started on that one soonish, maybe.
>since Blanc seems to be asking a question in the Japanese
Nips use question marks in weird ways. It's more of a tone of voice thing than a grammar thing, so you can have phrases that end in one but translate as statements in English or vice versa, where the Japanese ends with a か and no punctuation at all or even a 。and in English it ends up being a question.
>do you want any form of credit
I don't really care either way. You can credit the translation to Anon or whatever. You're doing the hard part anyway.
Happy birthday, faggot.
No.917582
>>916612
Thanks for the clarifications.
>You're doing the hard part anyway.
I believe the feeling is mutual. You can't build a house without a foundation, and it's also meaning a lot to me that you'd do this even though the works themselves aren't so great. Unfortunately the series gets little attention, and most of the works that know about the games focus on the worst content. I can usually forgive middling artwork if the content is sweet like these.
Also there's no hurry to do #3 even if you want to. I'm going to be delaying #2 a bit after #1, and that's already going slowly. I'm not at all artistic.
No.918545
>>914745
And here's the third one done, though I guess it's actually the second one.
https://pastebin.com/MK4PgHRf
I wasn't prepared for this kind of degeneracy.
No.918548
>>918545
I don't know how to respond. Except that I'm eternally of thank yous.
No.918549
>>918548
And attempts at erasing.
No.920462
Update: I'm mired. Honestly, should I even bother with those bubbles? They're a lot of work and my cleaning isn't great as in first pic related, and my editing is worse as in >>917582 first image. There isn't much dialogue in them compared to the main parts either so I could just annotate them or leave them as-is.
As far as the other two works are concerned, I haven't looked at #2 much but so far it's been total silence from the anon who offered to typeset #3. I'd be ashamed to see your work be for nothing, if it delays too long I'll pay someone to typeset it.
Also attempt at page 03.
No.920466
>>920462
Which bubbles are you talking about?
No.920469
>>920466
This is the original page #18. There's text that is basically SFX in the translucent bubbles. It's largely moaning of the sort that you'd find in a typical H manga.
No.920475
>>920469
Looks like you already cleaned them to me, unless you mean others of the same kind. I don't think it would look good to just leave them completely untranslated. Post what's left to do and maybe I or someone else can have a crack at it?
No.920484
>>920475
They're cleaned but not edited. Editing would've been, again, like >>917582 #1
No.920571
>>914737
I really want to scanlate this one but for the love of god I can't find a translator for it. I was helping the last dude translating it so he gave me the whole first volume from him before he dropped it.
If I were to post some of the 4koma strips, would you be willing to translate a few of them?
No.920606
>>920571
Might give it a shot, though that one page already has an untranslatable pun in it and I don't know if my willpower will last if there are many more.
>Title: Encounter
>"100 friends" is obviously too high a goal.
>Let's compromise and say 96... No...
>About 98?
>I'm Otonashi Misuzu, 15 years old!
>And starting today, I'm finally a high school student!
>I'll make new friends to study with... hang out with...
>The JK life I've been literally dreaming of is just around the...
>Hm?
>You there! What are you wearing!?
>Let go! I'm a genuine JK!
>JK!? ...But, you're a boy, aren't you!?
>It's "jouro" "kosplay".
<TN: jouro means watering can
>That clearly makes me a JK...
>What makes you think that's an excuse!?
No.920652
>>920606
Thanks anon.
>though that one page already has an untranslatable pun in it and I don't know if my willpower will last if there are many more.
Y-yeah, this manga has lots of puns... b-but is worth it!
No.920653
>>920652
I really like the way you've done that, Anon.
I read a few chapters ahead and this really is fun. If you're willing to keep typesetting them, I'm willing to keep translating them. How far are you thinking of going? Are the 350 pages I found online the entire thing?
No.920662
>>920653
>Are the 350 pages I found online the entire thing?
Yeah. I want to redo the ones that have extra content like the page you did end then continue where the other guy left off. But if you want to start over from chapter 1, I can do that too.
No.920691
>>920662
>the "quality" of the translations on those chapters
KebabRemover's uploads seem decent but the other two who worked on the series are shit. I guess it wouldn't make sense to start remaking old chapters before finishing the manga though.
I'll try to get caught up with what's already been translated and then I can start on the new ones. In a couple of days, maybe? My schedule is kind of weird.
How should I get the translations to you, Anon? Should I put them in a pastebin or something and post them in this thread or should I contact you directly somehow? Any better ideas for formatting them then just writing out the speech bubbles? Do you want me to try to translate the sfx? It's not my strong suit so I might not know how to handle a lot of them.
No.920705
>>920691
>How should I get the translations to you, Anon?
I use irc if you're up to it. You could just pastebin it ITT if you want to It's more comfy here.
About the sfx, It would be nice if you could translate them since they're also important.
About the KebabRemover uploads.
I'm KebabRemover, I may reupload those chapters since now I have a better array of fonts and a bit more of experience typesetting. I guess you could also contact me via mangadex if you feel like it.
No.920707
>>920571
>how do I take my cute girl hairstyle to the next level?
>twintails
>AND BRAIDS
This artist might be a genius. Two top tier hairstyles at the same time. I'm excited to read this if it does get translated. Also the artist seems to have a small bit of trouble with anatomy. Her bottom half looks much fatter than her upper body would suggest on the second page.
No.920708
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>>920705
I guess I'll post here when I get around to it, but you should let me know how I can get a hold of you on IRC just for redundancy's sake.
>I'm KebabRemover
I suspected as much.
>Just realized I'm now up to around 4-5 translation projects including typesetting pic related for my Ao-chan subs that nobody is ever going to use at once on top of real life shit
Nice to have something to keep you busy, ehehehehe...
No.920785
I have experience cleaning up raw doujins if anyone ever needs some help with cleaning.
No.920797
Can someone please translate some of this guy's stuff? It's super adorable
No.920824
>>920798
>>920797
It'd be harder to do the SFX but there's not many of those in those works it seems, and the rest of it is beginner-level as far as cleaning and typesetting. Colour pick, feather edge select text, fill for white bubbles, or just paint over them. If the background is uneven that's where you need the clone tool and a decent eye and display to make sure it is fairly seamless. This is where having a good screen is important, and like it's a world of difference between my spare X200 systems and the X200 Tablet I use day-to-day. Just have your edits on their own layer, and make sure the original page layer is protected. In GIMP you can make things like the clone tool based on the composite image not what's on a layer, same with the colour picker.
If the page is a high DPI scan to the point you can see the ink dots, I normally also do a gaussian blur. 3.0 for this, it depends on the resolution. I normally add NL filter edge enhancement to that as well
Example source file of a finished page attached (it's a .zip archive this is a trick for uploading arbitrary files). I just use GIMP. Most manga uses WildWords font, there's quite a lot of that in this thread. The >>914724 page from the other anon uses Tomcat for text and Comic Sans MS for SFX, I opted to just use Tomcat, and Utopia for storyline text. Ideally SFX, especially major ones, are re-drawn in the style of the original but you need to be able to actually draw to do that. Plebs like myself ignore the majority because they're also a lot of extra work as far as cleaning goes too, and really, in my case あああ♥ is not exactly hard to figure out.
No.920825
>>920798
To repeat what he said since it's actually useful, there's a lot of the raws on the panda, and some of them are soft-subbed on Danbooru.
https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:moyazou
No.920895
>>920705
I got pages 141 to 160 done.
https://pastebin.com/EbJPAnUC
Caught up and started knocking these out faster than I anticipated.
No.920928
>>920895
Nice job anon, will get to it right away.
No.920932
>>920895
Can you translate the extra part here?
https://files.catbox.moe/sw9lzl.zip
Here are the whole vol1 raws.
No.920949
>>920895
>I may not look it, but I'm the type who pays attention to fashion.
>Whether I have the courage to actually go outside dressed like this or not is another matter.
While I'm at it I guess I should do the ones you posted at >>920662
https://pastebin.com/Uq04n3r2
No.920965
>>920949
Done with the first 3, will post the rest when I finish them.
No.921017
>>920965
>>921011
>keeping the stuff I wrote in brackets
A-Anon, I meant those to be TNs or alternate wording choices for you to choose from, they're not supposed to actually be in the script.
No.921019
>>921017
Whoops. Going to correct it then.
No.921247
TomoTsuku pages 161 - 180 done.
https://pastebin.com/FDUENGtS
Also, hope you get this in time before anything has to be remade, but I only just now found out that that guy's name is Kishikawa, not Kishigawa. I don't remember seeing any furigana until now so I couldn't know for sure until I saw it in the game part.
No.921420
TomoTsuku pages 181-200 done. I noticed that you kept the asterisks too, but when I put something between asterisks I mean that to be emphasized with italics or bold or something since I can't format that on pastebin.
https://pastebin.com/0Yr5FYB3
I just realized I've been using the web manga and forgot about the bonus content. So I went ahead and did those too.
https://pastebin.com/3Bu1BM0V
This series is really educational. It's teaching me that I'm still a little bitch when it comes to knowing Japanese.
No.921421
>>921420
Oh, I see. I will fix that later today then.
No.921462
Powered through the rest of #1 so it's now uploaded for QC. When I get around to #2 I'm also inclined to do some sort of demo WebM on cleaning and typesetting with one of the pages, if anyone wants to suggest any points to make in addition to >>920824
#2 will probably take as long. If I end up having to do #3 the cleaning work for that is thankfully a lot less from what I've looked at and typesetting should be much quicker.
https://mega.nz/#!MF9XhYYS!H3WHeRXj-_J1fmjpnEKYIeX2DZPhgvEHXup3oBqzwxA
No.921585
With #2 the raws are messier and faded. The way I understand it is to apply leveling to basically make the whites actually white #ffffff, likewise the blacks. I've only done this with monochrome and need to verify that applies and isn't doing something stupid. Example for page 03. NSFW.
No.921636
TomoTsuku 201-220:
https://pastebin.com/MxzKtxqn
This manga needs to be less plot and more nichibros.
No.921809
TomoTsuku pages 221-240:
https://pastebin.com/mptU8pkT
Also, some fuckups I spotted after the fact
>https://pastebin.com/3Bu1BM0V
<I will graciously take you up on your offer.
This should be something like
>Don't mind if I take you up on your kind offer.
>https://pastebin.com/MxzKtxqn
<It says "Surprise reveals!" on the spine...
Should be
>It says "Shocking reveals!" on the cover...
I really didn't expect that Yesman thing to take off in the way it did, and now I'm kind of regretting going with that title. I tried to turn the pun in the title into an alliteration but that barely works and maybe it should just be Emperor of Agreement or something. Not sure which would be best. I kept it as King of Compliance so far.
No.921812
>>921809
>Corrections for chapters I'm not even close to cleaning/typesetting.
Good thing I work at a snail's phase.
No.921815
>#2 will probably take as long.
Actually somehow I'm going through it and almost finished with the cleaning, so it'll likely be done by tomorrow, despite it being even worse than #1 to actually translate. It's partly beyond me that I may have to cheat a bit in places mind, but I didn't want to let >>914737 work be for nothing. It'd be shameful.
No.921817
>>921815
Second paragraph of the first image, "exactly on year since" should probably be "one".
No.921821
>>921815
Is that really the best you can do with the afterword, Anon? Or is that just a work in progress?
No.921830
>>921821
I know I'm bad at certain editing bits. If you mean the main text, I can do "colour select 255 but no transparency, grow area, feather area, fill white" that I normally use for SFX, but I honestly thought that would look worse in this case. The bits that are overlapping the bottom-left Blanc though will be annoying.
I do need to add the "Afterword" header I somehow forgot.
No.921857
>>921855
That looks much better. Could do with a more comicy font but it's still pretty good.
No.921861
>>921857
I absolutely welcome advice to improve. CC Wildwords was my default but I like this a lot as a main font.
No.921893
I'm working with a typesetter, editor AND cleaner who offered generously to give me a hand on a series I was about to give up on, but they tend to drastically change the scripts I give them. Not just fixing typos or changing the text order to make it more natural (i.e. when a line is broken over multiple speech bubbles) but pretty much complete rewrites that often drop information that was present in the original. I usually go over my own scripts two or three times to make them as natural sounding as possible without losing any of the author's tone or vocabulary, but I do tend towards accuracy over naturalness. Generally no key plot points or anything are dropped and the tone isn't changed significantly, additionally since I proofread before submitting I can ask them to rework stuff which they comply with for the most part, but I try to limit pushing them to stick to the original script since they're doing the majority of the hard work and I wouldn't be continuing without their help anyway. Frankly the situation isn't too bad at the moment (I've had some minor professional experience managing groups etc. so I'm making diplomatic and carefully phrased requests and not just obstinately telling them to change it), but I am concerned that this could cause issues down the line.
Does anyone here have any similar experiences? Is this just normal and something I need to get used to working with groups? Do you feel that I should try to maintain accuracy to the original script or just focus on presentation to an English speaking viewership? Are there some things I should be aware of that might result in issues in the future?
I suppose in the end it wouldn't be any loss to me personally, but it would be a shame if the series were to stop translation, or otherwise become a total rewrite, so any advice that someone here might have I'd appreciate.
No.921897
>>921893
That group sounds like a ticking time bomb. As translator you know best what it should translate to, and if they change things contrary to your advice then I can't imagine it going well for long. I even tend to prefer natural sounding lines over completely accurate ones, but if it were me I'd try to find more cooperative people to help.
No.921904
>>921897
Oh I should probably reiterate that first line, I meant it's a -single person- doing literally every single job except for translation, sometimes I clean up the simpler text boxes, but that's the extent of it. Plus it's not exactly as if I'm N1 or anything, I'd be lucky to scrape in a pass on N2 on a good day, on a bad day I might even fail to reach N3, nor am I a pulitzer writer in English or anything. Frankly if it were a larger group I would just poiltely leave, but as it stands with just the two of us we're balancing well enough. You are right though, there is definitely cause for some concern at the least.
>I'd try to find more cooperative people to help.
He's definitely co-operative and listens to my advice, but only after I give it to back during proofreading. When I hand him a script the first time hardly a single line is left unchanged, even if nothing is neccessarily changed for the worse it's a bit disconcerting. It could just be that I'm really awful at writing and I just don't know it though? I usually get a lot of typos and other oddities with the rewritten lines though, so I can't imagine he would be a dramatically better writer than I am, but it's possible?
No.921905
>>921904
Please don't take this post as an example of my writing skill by the way, it's really badly put together even for my standards.
No.921907
>>921893
I'd probably flip my shit a little if I was in your place, Anon. Did they ever give you a reason for why they change your scripts?
>Do you feel that I should try to maintain accuracy to the original script or just focus on presentation to an English speaking viewership?
That's really the stickiest issue in translation, isn't it? With anime I think there is absolutely no excuse to not go for 100% accuracy in subtitles, since you have vocal and (more) visual cues to convey a lot of the things you can't through dialogue alone, but for manga it's a lot thornier. My philosophy is to play it by ear most of the time, judging mostly on how important something is. If there's what looks to be a one-off joke pun or something, I think it's acceptable to change it from the original as long as you maintain the same tone and a similar theme. If something looks like it's going to come up a lot and in different contexts or is just really important to the setting, then it's better to make it accurate. Put in a TL note and you might have a bit of awkwardness once because of that, but once the reader gets past it everyone can be on the same page and you never have to worry about explaining it or twisting your brain to come up with some way to adapt the thing in every single instance it shows up in.
I don't know what advice to give you other than "don't work with faggots". If you can be diplomatic and have a good line of communication with them, maybe try sort of supervising the process and making it clear what's really important and shouldn't be changed and where it's acceptable, maybe even doing the rephrasing yourself if you can. It's a tall order but you could try learning how to do your own cleaning and typesetting, I suppose. It would pay off over the long term.
No.921908
>>921893
If there's a loss of information, you should make him notice that, add some comments pointing out that this or that shouldn't not be ommited. Otherwise, maybe add some Translation notes or explanation at the end of the chapter but if they're skipping shit, it could bite them in the ass later on.
No.921915
>>921907
>My philosophy is to play it by ear most of the time, judging mostly on how important something is.
>If something looks like it's going to come up a lot and in different contexts
Yes, one thing I've started doing is trying to translate more fluidly, making the compromise on my end rather than through the editor so that they're less likely to change the line. My hope is that if I'm translating loosely that whatever intuition I've picked up for Japanese will help preserve content that could be interpreted in multiple different contexts, or affecting future scenes in a particular way, but I'm concerned about taking some of the lines which are more ambigious in Japanese and changing them into a more specific form in English because it sounds more natural.
>It's a tall order but you could try learning how to do your own cleaning and typesetting
Well, it's definitely possible, but the situation arose from me lacking the time and energy (and competence to do a good job quickly) that led to seeeking support from others. I probably wouldn't continue the series if I was working individually. Not to mention that they really do do a good job of typesetting, much better than what I was doing.
>>921908
>add some comments pointing out that this or that shouldn't not be ommited.
Thank you, that's a good idea really. I have a partly done script that I've been including some notes for the typesetter/editor/cleaner that have extremely literal translations of the lines so he can see the thought process behind writing them. I'm not sure if that sort of thing will help much, but with any luck it should reduce the 'Chinese whispers' effect of running the text through author>translater>editor>reader and losing content.
Thank you for your advice, it's helpful to aggregate opinions to figure out what the best action to take is instead of just relying on my own. Again it's just a sort of mildly baffling situation rather than anything critical, so any input anyone has is appreciated.
No.921946
>>921861
It's an alright font, but why are the full stops little squares? Is the font glitchy or incomplete or something? Aside from that, perhaps reduce the line spacing. You have things like "intended." in the second panel and "command..." in the last panel butting up against the edges of speech bubbles.
No.921952
>>921946
>why are the full stops little squares
All of the punctuation looks blockish, dashes and apostrophes and so on. I'd say the typeface is probably incomplete, and his editor is falling back on a default.
No.921964
>>921952
Have you tested augie or cc wildwords lower those are nice lowercase fonts? Also, I would advice you to change this font, it really collides with the others.
No.922032
CC Wild Words lowercase in case anyone wants it.
https://files.catbox.moe/2yla6b.rar
No.922043
(Thanks for the feedback)
>>921946
Apparently it's missing the period and tilde and such since it's a demo-only font. I like it as a general typeface but I'm wondering if I shouldn't just be using good-old WildWords. But I'm more inclined to do that for the ones I'm using Utopia for...
>>921964
...So I'll test that, and I've never heard of Augie until now.
>>921893
I'd worry but it depends on the motivation. If they don't respect your translation and it is correct, then there's a problem. Even if they're just doing it to ease the typesetting though, there are always ways around it. With regard to the Nep stuff I'm doing I only change things that are wrong in context of a translation (Komiket), or stem from lack of knowledge of the series (Vert being named "Bell") but leave the rest as-is and just adjust the font size, and add manual linebreaks, or if necessary, hyphen-break words to make it all fit nicely.
In regards to >>921915 the editing side of it is highly variable depending on what extent you intend, whether you're artistic, and the work in question. If you're just dealing with plain white dialogue bubbles that's brain-dead easy. But it can get much more annoying. By far the greatest autism I've seen was whoever did [Takaku-Ya] Extend Party 2 where almost all the text is in translucent bubbles across 60-something pages, and they were cleaned properly. Not just whited out or blurred or cheated around.
No.922059
Augie looks nice actually. Thougths before I go applying it through the rest?
(If there's one thing I find very irritating about GIMP it's not having font styles like most CAD tools, and the seemingly random times it re-sizes the box to something ridiculous.)
No.922082
>>922059
I use a pirated photoshop so I can't help you with your GIMP troubles but I would recommend you to shrink the text a bit so it doesn't touch the border of its containers. Take into account you don't really have to occupy the whole space in the speech bubbles. I shrunk the text and in my opinion, it's easier to read than before.
I horizontally scaled the augie font to 95% so it's more narrow, I don't know if you can also do that on GIMP.
No.922104
Couldn't get around to TomoTsuku today, but I did spot another fuckup.
>https://pastebin.com/MxzKtxqn
>pg. 216 - Rock On
This is most likely meant to be Lock On, thinking about it.
No.922106
Damn it. I thought that mass of text in page 12 was SFX. This will be pain to edit out. For now, QC on the rest of #2. C91 work. Also questions for translate-anon.
https://mega.nz/#F!ZItDBAAb!ymBruHzMaLaiK1UWK1ZwBQ
Page 04: I believe the pink out-of-bubble text in second image related wasn't in the script, is it just some sort of SFX?
Page 05: Third image: I initially looked to see if the name of that bit of hardware was mentioned in the anime and couldn't find it, online apparently it's the "Manect" (obviously named after the piece of crap that was the Kinect) but I think you just mis-translated "RisoBox". リーンボックス = Leanbox, the name of the nation of Vert/Green Heart representing the Microsoft consoles.
>>922082
When adding text I largely care about a minimum font size so it's legible at scale-to-height viewing in my manga viewer even if it means splitting words up I think it's a good tradeoff, and it's fairly common in most translations I've read. I'll fiddle with line spacing, extra newlines, font size, and word splitting to make it fit nicely as I can. But your idea of scaling the width is actually a good one I might use for a few since this font is wider than Tomcat. The text tool only allows glyph spacing adjustment not glyph width, but the basic scale tool can be used in lieu of that.
No.922110
>>922106
>Page 04: I believe the pink out-of-bubble text in second image related wasn't in the script, is it just some sort of SFX?
That ガチャッ? Yeah, that's just the sound of a door opening.
>I think you just mis-translated "RisoBox". リーンボックス = Leanbox,
...This is why I don't like ソ and ン. Yeah, that does say Leanbox.
I guess the line would become
>-H-Hey, this is the latest Leanbox console that appeared in episodes 3 and 4 of the Nep anime and can do solid projections of backgrounds and stuff! (explanation tone)
No.922113
>>922110
I'll fix them both in time. Again, thank you.
No.922272
Made up for yesterday.
Tomotsuku 241-280:
https://pastebin.com/e7Lp5zh7
No.922313
Last one! (C90)
https://mega.nz/#F!ZItDBAAb!ymBruHzMaLaiK1UWK1ZwBQ
This was SO much easier except for the cover, I'm in two minds whether I should have done that but I tried. That's up for judgement for certain. Also with all the white-out in this case I found the magic wand tool exists and really helps cleaning dirty bubbles so I'll apply that to the rest when I update those. Translation check.
>afterword
>Blanc in a priest's robe was both cute and also cute, so I'm really looking forward to that.
Double-cute is at least true, I really warmed to her 4GO outfit during this. But Noire and Vert kind of steal the spotlight in that respect.
Also do you by any chance have a translation of the title for #3? I'll edit the cover for that if so, along with any other errata in the other two soon-ish. Finally, THANK YOU SO MUCH!! You've no idea how much it means to me to have Neptunia works that aren't disgusting monster trash translated. If there's any other work you want to see edited I'd be all too happy to re-pay you in that fashion.
No.922316
>>922313
>Also do you by any chance have a translation of the title for #3?
The 'Online de Next na Koibito' one? That would be something like 'Next's Lover Online', not as in like a game title but in the 'Being Next's lover while online/through the internet' sort of way.
Also, you're very welcome. I don't really need anything typeset because I want to practice my own editing-fu. Practice is its own reward.
No.922319
>>922316
>The 'Online de Next na Koibito' one?
Yes that one. Cheers.
>because I want to practice my own editing-fu.
I get that. Regardless I leave my offer open.
No.922331
>>922272
Page 160, can you please explain the pun/joke?
I know its probably about her not liking the chocolates but I wonder if it has some relation with the title.
No.922338
>>922331
>he doesn't know
There are two "rival" brands of chocolate confections both produced by the Meiji company: Kinoko no Yama and Takenoko no Mura. They come in similar packaging and there is an eternal skub-tier debate over which of the two people prefer. The joke is that Misuzu turns down the kinoko no yama parody because she's a takenono follower as she should be because kinoko no yama a shit.
No.922341
>>922338
N-no buli! I-I will put a TN with your 2nd pic.
T-the more you know~.
No.922350
>>922338
Filthy dumb bamboo scum. Not even memeing. Fuck♂You.
No.922356
Made an image explaining it, on the bright side, now I have a glossary template in case there's something need to be explained in more detail.
No.922361
>>922356
Well now I feel extra bad about misremembering the name as Takenoko no Mura instead of Takenoko no Sato.
No.922364
>>922361
Fixed it.
I feel extra bad too since I google the extra images and even went as far as to check meiji's official website (which was in english) to get more info and still didn't notice you got it wrong.
No.922371
>>922364
Why did you spell "bamboo shoot" as "bambu shot"?
No.922385
>>922371
>Why did you spell "bamboo shoot" as "bambu shot"?
W-where? All I see is "Bamboo shoot".
No.922530
TomoTsuku pages 281-300:
https://pastebin.com/sLsfDw4N
For once I didn't spend most of my time googling vague terms to understand references mostly because I couldn't be bothered.
No.922950
Went for it, and finished it. TomoTsuku 301-350:
https://pastebin.com/Rduwuxre
No.922951
>>922950
Good job anon, I wonder how long it will take me to fully scanlate it, now is my turn to deliver.
No.922954
>>922950
I will do the extra stuff from vol 1 and then go to vol 2. Is this also translated? I can't find it on the pastebin.
No.922961
>>922954
These weren't in the online raws I was using. If you upload them somewhere, I'll do them.
For those you posted:
<178 - If you lose your temper, you get the consecutive energy blast [not sure about this one but the energy blast thing is a reference to one of Vegeta's attacks]
>Tsundere characters are always very popular!
>If I try to copy them, maybe I'll be able to make a few friends...
>Otonashi-san, thanks for lending me your pen.
[small]You really saved me
>Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like I was wanted to save you.
>I will be the one who defeats you.
>I can't let you die just yet.
>HAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA
>Why did she choose battle manga as her reference material...?
<180
>The outer cover!! You might call it the "book's clothes"...!!
>If you tear it off, that counts as "consent", doesn't it...?
Also,
You misaligned the text in one of the panels in the third pic of >>922951 .
No.922970
>>922961
Fixed it, it also had some repeated dialogue. I probably pressed ctrl+z or something and didn't double check.
No.923049
#1 and #3 of those Blanc works have been updated and cleaned up a bit. I'm finishing up on #2's fixes and that should be re-uploaded in a few hours, Give it a week and after that I'm fine with people uploading them to panda and such. I'm not doing it for reasons. Just don't associate it with 8chan like >>913329 do because that's evil. Link is the same.
No.923069
>>922954
Did he get NTRd of a peaceful moe CGDCT 4koma by his own MC?
No.923752
Making the extra stuff from vol 1 before starting vol 2.
No.923758
Is anyone ever gonna translate the missing chapters of Grappler Baki? I love that goofy shit and I'll Paypal anyone who starts work on it.
No.923763
>>923752
Allow me to bully.
>3rd pic
You forgot the "First names" part.
>>923753
>2nd pic
I corrected that last line to "Don't mind if I take you up on your kind offer."
No.923786
>>923758
Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that the series notorious for breaking up scanlation groups? I also recall it being a lot less blunt than that.
No.923809
>>923763
Fixed it. Also I know these colored pages have a name but I totally forgot it since I almost never use it.
No.924093
>>923786
looks more like Clark Griswold than Bush.
No.924095
>>923786
You are not mistaken, Baki is fucking cursed.
No.924101
>>923786
It's a combination of having zero good scans to use, lack of mainstream appeal (aka, it's not isekai, fanservice, or generic shounen power level stuff) and there is one group that is slowly trickling out missing chapters, but they've also made the mistake of jumping between major arcs of the series while trying to keep the latest chapters coming out too.
No.924113
>>923763
Vol2 raws in case you want to translate the extras:
https://files.catbox.moe/8zkbvb.zip
No.924907
>>924885
>2nd pic
Missing an I in I've.
No.924966
>>924907
Fixed it. Also did some extras from vol1.
No.925443
Some comments on mangadex said something chapter 200's title possibly being related to "backscratcher" and that mago also means "grandchild" scratching. No idea if they're onto something or not.
No.926231
>>924907
Have you checked the author's other works?
https://sai-zen-sen.jp/comics/twi4/sakichan/
If you're interested in translating it, I can also help the rest.
No.926248
>>926230
Missed another I in the third pic. You also might want to add a comma between "do this" and "young man" in the fourth pic.
>>926231
Pretty sure the title on the right comic was supposed to be "Lock On", thinking about it.
I'll keep it in mind but I don't know if I can get to it any time soon for real this time. And I've already seen some really small kanji for the resolution which I know is going to give me a headache.
No.926249
>>926248
Fixed them. If there's something you want scanlated, I can give you a hand. It's the least I can do for helping me with tomodachi wo tsukurou.
No.926268
What is this tomfoolerin plastic neesan wannabe looking ass manga?
No.926272
>>926268
+tic neesan went to shit pretty early on.
No.928612
Hello there fellow anons,
I've recently completed translation for the first chapter to this series on my my own and though you might proofread enjoy seeing it! The title is Kurokami Miko to Maria Witch, please let me know of anything catches your eye as being faulty or what have you let me know, this is the first time I've done something of (decent) quality on my own so there's likely to be some issues.
No.928613
>>928612
Incidentally I'm exclusively using GIMP so bordered text for SFX is kind of a pain in the ass, I might try add it to the two colour pages before I submit it to Mangadex but I'm not sure
No.928614
>>928613
Lastly, if there just so happens to be anyone who likes this enough to want to help me typeset it I'd be very open to it... Frankly this took me nearly a month of on and off picking at to finish on account of how slow I am to typeset and I'd probably only get another chapter or two done on my own.
Either way hope someone enjoys!
No.928623
The only real advice I have is to make sure text is centred vertically, you can use the move tool in GIMP to shift the text around to that end. But for the most part it looks good. What fonts are you using? Also at that standard I'm happy to have a go at the editing side.
No.928624
>>928613
I've been using a font scheme I lifted directly from another typesetter that helped me on something else, standard text is Felt, handwritten is Augie and the text for weakly spoken lines is Another. Are there any lines that are really badly centered in particular? I moved text around a lot to make it all fit nicely but I was just judging by eye rather than using any specific method for centering. As far as editing goes what would you expect me to provide for you? It doesn't take too long for me to do a translation and basic cleaning, but redraws are pretty hard (you can see I gave up totally on 008 and skipped a lot of other handwritten text), setting text also seems to take me longer than it really should. Just let me know though, I'm happy to get any help I can!
Thank you!
As a more general note and a question directed to anyone around, I forgot to work out a way to localise 'A hana is better than a hannya', I'd rather not include something as asinine as "TN: hana = flower if u wer japns ud kno this" but I can't really think of any way to get the pseudo-pun across nicely.
No.928628
No.928629
>>928613
>I'm exclusively using GIMP
My deepest sympathies, anon. Me too.
No.928901
>>928624
It's not anything too major but like these for example, it feels like it's positioned to the shape the bubble would be if not clipped by the manga panels, not the space it actually occupies. Hopefully that explanation makes sense. I just do movement by eye too. I also sometimes adjust other parameters if it's really hard to fill in a bubble.
>As far as editing goes what would you expect me to provide for you?
I'm probably only going to do cleaning/editing up to your standard, maybe a bit better. With that understanding, if you know the series I just need the script (indicate pages), and if they're not on Madokami or Exhentai, a source for raws.
No.928903
>>928613
>bordered text for SFX is kind of a pain in the ass
See >>916128 friend.
No.928943
>>928901
>it feels like it's positioned to the shape the bubble would be if not clipped by the manga panels
Oh yes I see that now, perhaps I was doing it subconciously? Either way I'll try to keep that in mind. As far as the script goes, would you be okay with .xcf files with partially formatted text in the general location of SFX and bubbles? This is usually the easiest way for me to do it, but I can always do solo scripts if the xcfs would cause you too much work (compatability with psd?). I believe uploading of zips renamed to pdf or swf works on 8chan so I can either upload them directly here, or to any other upload site as well. Additionally feel free to contact me on Mangadex, the account I'm using is called 'ozoua' I check it fairly often so I should see any messages you might send.
>>928903
>>916128
Oh great! I might be doing some more stuff later, or even re-uploading what I've done with some fixes so this is really helpful, thank you!
No.929052
>>928943
I use GIMP so .xcf is 100% fine. Just put all text layers in their own layer group and make them read-only. Don't even bother fitting the text in as long as I know where it needs to go that's enough.
>zip PDFS works
Definitely does. 16MiB limit (16777216 bytes) per-post. Any of the still active Pomf sites work too.
No.929074
>Zips can be renamed to pdf and downloaded on 8chin.
Didn't know that, I will do that from now on to save posts.
Tomodachi wo tsukurou 218-241.
No.929075
>>929074
Tomodachi wo Tsukurou 242-264.
No.929405
>>922272
A-Anon, 280 is missing the title!
No.929563
>>929052
Hello, I've finished the translation for the moment, I'm not sure if I've made it read-only properly however. Just let me know if anything is done poorly and I can easily fix it.
As an aside feel free to use whichever font you feel is most appropriate for the text, I've put some of the fonts in but I didn't put a lot of thought into the appropriate or best looking font for each piece of text so they don't need to be followed exactly or anything. Lastly I've done the script to the best of my ability but if you feel something is wrong or I've used an awkward sound for an SFX I have no reservations about it being changed.
Thank you for your help.
No.929586
>>929563
Unexpected. I had to update GIMP to open them. Continuing tomorrow but here's an idea of what it'll look like.
>locking
You can lock individual layers. The source image should be untouched, any re-drawing/erasing should be on its own layer. Similarly, text and drop shadow in their own layer group.
>fonts
Felt looks nice, I'll use it as a main but the copy I found doesn't have ~.
No.929594
>>929586
Odd about the update, no need to rush, what you've done looks great! As far as locking goes, you're saying I should lock each layer individually? I locked the layer group thinking that would lock all the layers inside but if not I'll try to remember to do each one manually next time. I do like Felt but I think it really doesn't have a tilde(~), at first I thought maybe there was a problem with my version since it keeps showing up as 'Felt weight=101' rather than 'Felt Regular'. I was planning on trying to fix my install of it but if you're having the same issue I might need to rethink using it. Changing the font type everytime you need to put a tilde isn't really efficient and this series seems to use it a lot.
No.929596
>>929594
Now that I think about it the easist thing might just be to jam a tilde from a different font into felt actually, I'll get to work on that now
No.929632
>>929586
>>929596
After trying in over half a dozen different programs and getting either no results (blocked at export function due to some copyright issue which requires a paywalled version of open source software), broken results (exporting to otf instead of ttf and kerning getting screwed with spaces no longer working at all) I'm doubting I'll be able to do it. I'm sure someone familiar with font editing wouldn't have an issue but it really shouldn't be this difficult to jam a squiggly line made of vectors into something. However, when I went to download a fresh copy I got a different version by accident which already has a tilde in it.
I guess at least I learnt something new?
No.929703
>>929632
I think FontForge did the trick. It generated a few errors on exporting to TTF but seems to work with GIMP. I borrowed the tilde from Augie. The other missing symbols are any brackets besides (), carat, underscore, grave accent, backslash, pipe.
No.929729
Do you mind if I do things like this if it'll fit? I know the perspective is dodgy it's only a rough example. Other than that all pages are cleaned, I just need to add text. It should be done tomorrow around this time..
No.929760
>>929729
Looks great! I would've had to resort to writing a note to the side so you've done a good job.
Also, looking at the SFX on this page here I realise I've made a mistake, whenever someone entered the Magitelier there's a 'Karan, Karan' (カラン カラン) sound, at first I thought this was an odd chime sound and wrote 'jingle jingle' but it's actually much more likely to be something like 'rattle rattle' from the door opening or closing. I'm not really against using a chime sound in English to make it clear what the sound implies, but it's likely an overlocalisation. Either way it's a minor point so I leave it up to your discretion how to deal with it, feel free to even skip over it if it's not really worth the time, I usually just translate everything for completion's sake rather than because it really needs to be included.
No.929922
>>929760
With SFX I'll only scrub them if they're fairly plain. Otherwise I'll annotate. Also apologies, I was distracted today. 3/8.
No.929939
>>929922
Nice work! Don't worry about the schedule or anything, I'm still only done for a few pages on the translation for the next chapter. How do you feel about italicising SFX and other written text? I tend to do so, I suppose because it helps differentiate sounds and additional text from the main spoken text. I did a really quick example here re-editing a few bits on the page, I also experimented with using Augie bolded for the handwritten text and tried using Another for the 'Starving Skeleton' text at the bottom. At the moment I think I like it this way, but I'm not totally sold and I wouldn't be surprised if this makes it harder to read and it's just a bias on my part. Either way let me know what you think, send me the .xcfs when you're done and I can make these changes if you like them too.
Also, one important note, but I was deliberately including Maria's "Yjes"s to help communicate part of her character. She still has an accent, wherein she will 'speak' in Katakana rather than hira or kanji, to show that her intonation sounds unnatural in some way or other (kata speech is also often used for things such as very tired or scared characters, robots, vengeful ghosts etc.) so if you see a 'Yjes' or other slightly misspoken word (by Maria) it's often done intentionally, especially if italicised. Although there are a few other instances were her accent comes out (ニガテ came up instead of 苦手 or にがて somewhere) I generally only keep it to situations where it's very obvious that her accent is coming through to avoid making the script too confusing or broken looking.
No.930081
>>929939
>formatting
Consistency is one issue I need to nail down. I've gone something like Augie for sign posts, bolded WildWords for motivation gauge, and Feld for the rest. But, if you are also typesetting I'd prefer consistency in what we present. My thoughts though, I think italics for pure SFX makes sense, but out-of-bubble text is already differentiated and should be like normal text. Also I'll fix the "Yjes" like I said I don't know this manga at all.
No.930137
>>930081
Great, I definitely felt like the SFX looked a bit odd but I think you might be right about the handwritten text. I still kind of like Another as a special case for the skeleton text since it's somewhat similar in style to what is written on the banner but it might become messy from including too many different styles. I can do some typesetting after all, it does take me a very long time (like I mentioned before I spent nearly a month on and off doing the first chapter) but I'm more than happy to help with it if I can. Lastly thank you for fixing the 'yjes's! I really felt like that was important in accurately conveying the author's original intent to keep those.
No.931345
>>916134
Any plans on doing more chapters of this?
No.931348
>>931345
I would but I can't find any more raws.
No.931437
Tomodachi wo Tsukurou 265-287
No.931438
Tomodachi wo Tsukurou 288-309.
No.931439
Tomodachi wo Tsukurou 310-329.5
No.931440
Tomodachi_wo_tsukurou_330-350(end)
No.931441
Man, it's over. It was a nice manga. Thanks anon for helping me with it. If fate wills it, let's work together again some time.
No.931446
>>931441
If you're not sick of TomoTsuku by this point I could redo the older chapters that have the duwang tier translation. But it would take a couple of weeks before I can get around to it.
No.931447
>>931446
Sure, I wouldn't mind and since it would take you a while I can take that chance to catch a break.
I found some raws of Shuujin Riku and was thinking of scanlating it, but like always, I can't find a translator for it. Could you give it a peek and see if you would be interested in working on it? The group that picked it up died 6 years ago so there's only 4 chapters scanlated.
https://archive.org/details/manga_Shuujin_Riku/page/n25
No.931450
>>931441
That was a good fucking read anons thanks for doing it.
No.931518
>>930137
https://mega.nz/#F!9ccGgIpR!5YO6L2m48kuHg4FsfrgMFQ
Firstly I'm so sorry about the radio silence I have had an empty motivation meter over the last few days of the first four images. Rendered PNG and source XCF. Only comment is page 3 has a missing translation for image related.
No.931632
>>931450
Glad you liked it.
No.931748
>>931518
Not to worry, I've been going slow lately too, the weather was very odd where I live the last few days and I think I caught a bit of a cold. As for the line I believe it says 'I like Yoriko's clothes too!', though I might be inclined to translate it more along the line of 'I like the clothes Yoriko makes too!', which I think is a bit closer in the nuance. Though I might need to double check since the handwritten kanji are sometimes a bit awkward to read and my Japanese is far from native level. Oh also, loli-ko is missing a line 'For real!?' on p1/p17, I can easily fix that on this end if it helps though.
Anyway keep up the good work!
No.933225
Is anyone interested in translating Veteran Shougakusei Tadashi? It's about a 20yr old dude who is still attending to elementary school.
Here's Vol 1's raw in case anyone wants to check it out: https://files.catbox.moe/i1mkfc.rar
No.933422
>>933225
Sure, currently translated up to page 33 on mangadex by the way. Also the raws seem to have a few watermarks on them, but they look easy enough to remove. Here's page 34 (p40 including title page etc), the first untranslated page.
No.933425
>>933422
Nice, thanks anon. If you need a hand on something just say it.
No.933433
>>933425
No problem, I probably will it some point, at least to tidy things up so my text boxes aren't going too far all over the place.
No.933481
Next page, I'll either be done with the next two pages very soon or not very soon at all. Hoping for the former
No.933484
>>933481
If you need help typesetting I can do it for you.
No.933487
>>933484
Sure no problem, I'll probably send a batch for the next 8-ish pages sometimes next week or so with some half assed typesetting so if you could tidy them up when I'm done I'd appreciate it. Problem is my Kanji is far from perfect, I spent a lot more time speaking Japanese than reading it, so sometimes I can get tied up doing translations anyway while looking through dictionaries.
Otherwise if the Tomodachi wo Tsukurou guy is still here he can always take over too.
No.933493
>>933488
Alright and I am done for the day.
No.933502
>>933487
I'm the anon that's was doing the cleaning/redrawing/typesetting for Tomodachi wo tsukurou. Right now I'm helping 3 groups on heavy editing and also Saki-chan. Since Tadashi is a one page per chapter, if you're up to it, I can help you with one or two pages a day so you can focus on translating.
No.934091
Next chapter of Veteran Shougakusei. Posting to mangadex later assuming I haven't made any grievous mistakes, which honestly happens more often than I'd like.
No.934094
>>934091
>2nd pic, 3rd panel, right bubble
<pso
Other than that, looks fine.
No.934106
>>931748
(Last page has an entire bubble missing translation, did what I can)
That aside, procrastination and distractions are a bitch. Powering through the last half in a couple hours is when you finally tame said bitch, so here you go! XCFs and outputs are in the same Mega link.
https://mega.nz/#F!9ccGgIpR!5YO6L2m48kuHg4FsfrgMFQ
Given the time span can you please double-check I've done everything you want for the whole? Fixes are easy at least. Also when it's at a state you're happy with, distribute as you want. I don't care about being credited, "Anonymous" is fine. Just don't namedrop 8chan.
Main question: I typically avoid canonical punctuation. I use exclaimation commas and ellipses for effect, as well as !?, except I do ?! since it's a question being exclaimed mostly. I'm interested in opinions on this.
No.934110
>>934106
>canonical punctuation
What do you mean? Matching the Japanese punctuation?
>as well as !?, except I do ?! since it's a question being exclaimed mostly.
I think ?! looks a lot worse than !? visually, and since I'm pretty sure there are no actual rules about interobangs and it's kind of an abuse of orthography anyway I don't think you should worry about assigning meaning to the order you put the signs in.
No.934113
>>934110
No I mean the sort of thing you'd see in English sentences. I've virtually never seen single periods used in translated manga, or not that I recall. The ?! vs. !? bit, I do not know, most text I've seen generally uses the former. Also no one uses ‽ since most people don't have a compose key or typewriter.
No.934129
>>934106
Oh dear. I'm really sorry I thought maybe you weren't interested anymore and I went and finished the rest of the chapter myself... I'm actually nearly done with the chapter 3 as well, I think the GIMP plug-ins anon made have made the work a lot easier. I held off on finishing the last chapter for a while but it was only a day or two ago that I went ahead and posted it, so it really is bad timing. I'm very sorry! I hope it wasn't too much of a bother to you and I still really appreciatedthe work that you did for me and if you like the manga I'm more than happy to keep working with you! Your typesetting is very nice and looks a lot better than mine and although it won't be done with the translation for a while it could always help to have someone to work with on the chapter after this
Again I'm really sorry, and thank you again for the work you did!
No.934144
>>934129
I cleaned it half a week ago, and only added text today. You're the only one who deserves apology to for my silence given it could've been done well before, and if you prefer my versions, use them as you want.
No.934145
No.934450
Next chapter of Veteran shougakusei.
I'd like to ask opinions on some of the titles though. For 'Clashing Titans' the original was 激突する二人 and for 'Give in to the Dark Side' especially the title was just 闇堕ち. For clashing titans I'm not too concerned, it's a tad inaccurate but I feel that it reads nicer than 'The Clashing Pair' or 'The Clashing Two', but 'Give in to the Dark Side' is a lot longer, and specifically it's hard to see it as a generic reference over a star wars reference. 闇堕ち is definitely more of a movie/games expression but perhaps 'Fall to Darkness' or 'Fallen Hero' might be more appropriate. Nicopedia at least corroborates that it's more about the hero turning to the evil/darkness and even straight up uses the phrase ダークサイド so it's probably fine as is, but if anyone feels that it's particularly offensive or inaccurate I might go ahead and change it to something a bit more literal.
No.934452
>>934451
I fixed p59's 'cleaning' so at least it's half assed instead of quarter assed just now by the way
No.934457
>>934450
How about "Fall to the dark side". That way it doesn't sound like a reference as much and it's also a bit more literal.
No.934458
>>934457
Sounds like a good idea,
>>934450
>>934451
Also, here's p58 which I completely forgot to include despite probably taking the longest for me to finish