No.876607
If you were to de-trapify anyone, who would it be?
No.876608
Shit thread, but Astolfo.
There's just something about that smug cock craving smile and the cute short pink braided hair that feels me with the desire to impregnate.
No.876609
The whole cast of Vento Aureo. The Italian twinks being dudes was such a self-evident waste, Stone Ocean went full girl's prison from the get go as an apology.
Too bad it was ruined by muh Dio.
No.876612
No one.
I'd check to see if the power works backwards.
No.876613
>>876608
He should really shave his pubes, they're out of control.
No.876623
>>876607
Nobody. Actually, on second thought, how lenient is the definition of trap?
Can I use the power on a reverse trap? Many of them are still feminine enough to be traps if they became a boy, so does that count?
>>876613
Even that much is fine when it's that fluffy.
No.876630
>>876607
Nobody. If you remove the penis from a trap it just becomes another boring 2D girl
No.876641
But that removes the entire point of a trap you nigger.
No.876651
>>876641
The point is that you like it despite the dick, not because of it, you massive faggot.
No.876664
No.876665
>>876651
You sound like the kind of person who would neglect his trap's dick and not even give him so much as a handjob.
No.876669
>>876665
And you sound like the type of guy that likes cocks.
No.876670
You should just kill yourself if you think traps are good in any way.
No.876676
>>876651
>>876669
>The point is that you like it despite the dick
>you like it despite the dick
Faggot detected.
No.876684
If you de-trapify a trap, it's no longer a trap- just a crossdresser. To "de-trap" a trap is to defuse the trap, meaning everyone knows it's a guy dressed as a girl.
No.876690
>BotW Link becomes Tomboy Zelda
I'm okay with this.
No.876701
>>876607
Depends on what 'detrapify' means.
Is it turning him into a real girl or making him look like a man?
No.876774
>>876651
>he doesn’t like trap-dick
Are you some sort of faggot?
No.876778
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>>876669
>>876670
>not liking dicks
Get a load of these losers.
No.876791
But what IS a trap, anyway?
A girl with a dick...?
or
A boy that looks like a girl...?
Because your answer to this changes the outcome drastically. De-trapping a girl with a dick means removing her dick and making her a normal girl. De-trapping a boy that looks like a girl means removing the girly aspects and making him look like a normal boy.
No.876794
>>876791
>A girl with a dick...?
That's a futa.
>A boy that looks like a girl...?
That's a trap. There's only one meaning to the word "trap", and it's "male that looks like a female".
No.876803
It seems pretty obvious to me OP means "swap benis for bagina" when he says "de-trap". Which trap would you want as an actual female?
More than a few quality female designs have been ruined (unless you're a fag or fag in denial) with "actually I'm a boy", hence the question.
No.876806
>>876803
I fee like everyone understood that but they just wanted to argue about whether or not they liked dicks.
No.876807
>>876794
A futa is not a girl with a dick.
No.876822
>>876794
"Trap" means "male that looks like a female and you don't know it's a male". It's a definition based on the viewer's knowledge, that's why it's a "trap" in the first place.
No.876827
>>876665
>Giving a trap a hand job
If you ask me, all traps deserve to be in chastity.
No.876829
>>876822
Defining the term in such a way that it becomes inapplicable anytime you know it was previously applicable is useless.
It makes more sense for the term "trap" to depend on the ability to trap, not whether anyone has fallen for it yet.
>>876778
>first pic
It's a shame how rare this is. Most of the time the closest you can hope for is trap-on-trap.
No.876834
>>876608
Agreed, but I'd got he other way. I want Astolfo to be total man-mode. Gilgamesh and Lancer basically fill the slots for "Cool guy in Fate" (Emiya/Archer doesn't count) and Astolfo being a faggotTrap is just plain shitty.
No.876835
>>876831
Traps are 2D only, Anon.
No.876839
None.
But I'd lile to see Astolfo and Felix removed from existence since they seem like characters which only serve the purpose of selling me something.
No.876840
>>876701
Turning him into a real girl of course.
No.876849
>>876831
I know that feel.
One of my best friends in college left for summer a shit talking anon, red blooded through and through. He came back a skinny tranny twink. Still no idea what really happened.
No.876850
Has a trap ever been anything else but:
> draw a cute girl
> label it a guy
I can't think of any popular or semi-popular trap character that was anything but that.
No.876853
>>876850
Anime is stylized. You're not going to get the anatomic details that give 3DPD crossdressers away immediately, and you wouldn't want to.
How else would it be done? The difference between a male and a female can be as shallow as the height of the eyes in some artstyles. The only way to represent a feminine boy is to draw him feminine.
No.876861
>>876850
Usually it falls to fanart and such to include the proper hints of masculinity. "Draw a girl" has more mass-market appeal, and it's easier (especially under tight deadlines) to just draw him exactly the same way as the female 75% of the cast, rather than take time to strike the right balance.
There is quite a bit of Astolfo material out there that depicts him as noticeably male, to a proportion that feels a little conspicuously higher than most trap characters. I saw a webm from Apocrypha that made it look like he wasn't 100% drawn as a girl, but I didn't watch the show so that may have only been for the one scene.
No.876902
>>876853
>>876861
It boils down to laziness and budget issues among artists and animators. An actually "good" trap would be one that you could tell is male, but only if you're paying attention.
No.878046
No.881377
No.882332
>>876822
Traps are girls that just happen to have dongers and you should respect them.
No.882347
Anon if the person you love has a dick, does it really matter?
No.882352
>>876902
>An actually "good" trap would be one that you could tell is male, but only if you're paying attention.
No, that literally isn't a trap.
No.882363
>>882332
>respect
What a funny way to spell "jam into a woodchipper".
No.882374
>>882347
Does it matter if you like to choke on it?
No.882378
>>882374
I don't think it matters, there's nothing wrong with wanting to feel the dick of the one you love throbbing in your throat as it spews hot cum coating your insides.
If you're a gayzo that is.
No.882379
All of them, you colossal faggots.
No.882391
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Anyone who doesn't like traps just needs more convincing.
No.882400
Traps are a necessity.
The sex ratio is roughly 50-50, but yuri means that there are fewer available females than there are males. It order for everyone to have someone to love, the only solution is to have traps make up the difference.
No.882411
>>876607
>If you were to de-trapify anyone, who would it be?
None. There's quite few shit traps but turning them into girls wouldn't make them less shit. As for the ones the ones that I like, turning them into girls would change some of their good points and I'd lose interest. Cruz Schild is the only exception because his fate was so hilarious and I didn't actually like him that much as a trap.
>>876850
>draw a girl
>call it a guy
<"erry single tiem!!!"
Valid criticism in some cases but that description is overused. Forget about traps, some people are even using it to shit on any prettyboy design they see.
I'd like to believe that those are just shitposters and not actually so new that they've never seen a bishounen.
No.882449
No.882450
>>882449
Jesus Christ how brutal, screencapped.
No.882511
>>882352
>No, that literally isn't a trap.
A mousetrap is far from perfect, and anyone with a brain better than a mouse can tell it's a trap- it's still a trap, just a bad one (for catching humans). Men dressing up as women can be really bad at it or really good at it, but they're still traps.
Since >>876850 wants to avoid the common problem of "draw a girl, label it a guy" (which would be a perfect trap), the only choice is to make good, but not perfect, traps- ones that can only be detected if you're paying attention.
No.882800
>>882511
Wrong. If it's bad, then it's not 男の娘. 男の娘 are believable girls that just happen to have dicks by definition.
No.882802
>>882411
This isn't trap art, it's just plain ordinary "bishie". Sephiroth isn't a trap despite having beautiful long hair and a pretty face. Neither is Alucard.
No.882812
>>882800
So is there no solution to "draw a girl, label it a guy"? Are all traps destined to be girls that magically have a penis when revealed?
No.882837
>>882812
It partly depends on what is meant by "draw a girl". Sometimes it applies all the time, even in swimsuits or underwear (usually without even a bulge), while other times it's only impossible to tell until he shows skin.
In my view, an ideal trap satisfies the following:
>with no foreknowledge anyone would assume he's a girl
>after being a told he's a trap, you can look at him and realize it was visible, at least some of the time, if you looked for it
>it is possible for him to "turn off trap mode", so that he would be assumed to be simply a relatively feminine boy, and not look like a crossdressing girl
>when scantily clad he is visibly male, at least from most angles, including but not solely because of a bulge
Futaba-san Chi no Kyoudai isn't great for anything but fetish fuel, and the trap himself isn't too good, but he does serve as a reasonable example of a trap that isn't just "draw a girl, call it a guy". He's feminine enough to not be conspicuous, but there are times when you can say "yes, those shoulders are pretty masculine", and when he takes off his clothes it is clear he is male.
No.882840
Astolfo, Felix and Hideri are SHIT traps. First of all they are part of a really obvious plan to pander to current trends. Right now lots of people like traps, so they are just being shoehorned into stories as a sales argument. Second of all, they have terrible personalities. They are huge sluts who are confident that they can seduce any straight man into being gay.If I wanted to have a huge cumguzzling slut I'd just go with a real girl. The true appeal of a trap isn't the fact that they have a cute and femine body, it's the personality that matters the most. Most traps are timid little boys who don't have much confidence in their masculinity in the first place. Seeing them stripped of the rest of their masculinity and having them squirm around in a dress creates a insecurity in them which is positively 100% cute. That's the first step. The next step is for the trap to feel appreciated for his feminine appeal.At that point their insecurity forces them to fullfil the female archetypical role, which is something most females don't do. Because the fake girl wants to be accepted as a real girl he ends up being more girly than the real thing. And that's why traps are better than girls
No.882841
>>882802
It isn't. I just wanted to post some boyish Astolfo art in reply to >>876861 but then forgot about it after I replied to that post.
My point still stands. It's overused. Some anons even insist that Sonic from OPM counts as "draw a girl".
>>882837
>In my view, an ideal trap satisfies the following
That's some good taste, anon.
No.882843
>>882840
>Opinion: The post.
This thread is about traps but that doesn't mean you have to act like a complete faggot.
No.882845
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>>882840
I'm pretty sure that's just your preference, Anon.
>They are huge sluts who are confident that they can seduce any straight man into being gay.
Are you suggesting that that isn't possible? Because that's just not true.
It happened to me.
No.882855
>>882840
Slutty traps are no good. Lewd, forward, teasing traps are okay, but not slutty.
I don't know that "insecurity" is what I'd say I look for. I do tend to like shy, demure girls and traps, but I tend to find that too much of that ends up being at odds with the willingness to crossdress in the first place, and I do want it to be something they choose to do. I also don't want the trap to be seeking acceptance as a girl and trying to fill the archetypal female role, rather than it coming naturally. I want him to tend to be feminine rather than tend not to be masculine, with him becoming a trap because he embraces that femininity rather than because he lacks the alternative. There should still be some masculinity there, and it's partly the contrast between that and the overall femininity that gives the trap his appeal.
No.882896
>>882391
>Useless microdicks
>no ass
>no curves (and adding curves just pushes it into the "draw a girl, then add a dick" territory of shit)
>Almost always comes with an insufferable personality (either obnoxiously insecure or overconfident to the point of annoyance)
Look if you want to be a faggot and like traps you're entitled to your wrong opinion. But don't become as bad as furfags and inject your shit into everything.
No.882943
Would the de-trapifying happen before or after you fuck them? I could go either way but having both options could spice things up.
No.883067
No.883073
>>882841
I want to make babies with Sonic.
No.883397
>>883170
He already got de-trapified using the power of God, though.
No.883550
>>882855
>Slutty traps are no good.
No.883640
>>883067
I get the distinct impression that if you took him out of the maid outfit he'd be very obviously a boy. It's just the crossdressing and Tsukushi making boys and girls virtually identical that throws you off, with the minimal artstyle.
No.884312
>>876794
FUTA MEANS DOUBLE
FUTANARI HAS TO HAVE BOTH PENIS AND VAGINA
>>876850
Actually his topless scenes in apocalypse showed that he had a decently manly muscle tone
No.884467
>>876607
does de-trap imply they get breasts? This is important.
A woman without a chest might as well not be a woman at all.
No.884470
>>884467
You can make that argument for nipples, but real 2D women can have as flat of a chest as they damn well please.
No.884473
>>884467
It's like you don't even want to bully washboards.
No.885143
No.885147
>>884473
What happens when an unstoppable penis meets an immovable flat object?
No.885150
>>885147
The penis gets hard, the object gets sticky.
No.885176
>>884467
This post was endorsed by a titcow.
No.889921
ITT: If you wanted to feel less gay about a character, who would it be?
No.890078
>>889921
What's that even supposed to mean? As in, it's still the same character and you still love them but you stop worrying about the fact that you like them?
No.891533
What about the reverse? Is there someone you'd want to trapify?
No.891541
If the object of your fantasy is a purely fictional character why do you even bother with such questions? Just have them being girls in your headcanon or draw them as you wish if you need material support for fapping sessions.
No.891553
>>891541
>draw them as you wish
>impliying the people that spend all their time bitching and complaining would ever try to create anything themselves
No.891582
>>891553
Well some artists take requests... But if even that is too much of a bother.
No.891589
>>891541
>>891553
I really need to learn to draw. Too much art I want and too little artists creating it.
No.891598
>>891533
Giving a touhou character a penis doesn't make them a trap, they are established female characters so they would turn into futas.
No.891605
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>>891598
"Trapify", not "futanarize". Making a 2hu a trap means she won't have a pussy anymore like a futa would.
No.892030
Since non-"draw a girl" Astolfo has come up a few times in this thread, I'll use giving an example of that as an excuse to plug https://exhentai.org/g/1320155/f57d0c5b0b/
It's as cute as it is gay, and it has the lewdest body writing scene I've ever read.
No.892144
>>892030
Very cute and Astolfo has indeed a very nice body in this one.
Though I do think futa-gudako is an even better partner for him.
No.892309
Myself, or at least in my mind
No.892743
>>891533
Are there any characters that have been more trapified than shimakaze or lebe?
No.894285
>>876607
Schrodinger's Catboy/girl
No.894473
>>876607
>de-trapifying anyone