/a/ - Animu & Mango

It was alright, I guess. Mostly put off that Goblin Slayer keeps morphing into 3D, while they had enough of a budget to animate Cow Girl's boob flop. What the fuck was that scene around the commercial break point, though?

>goblin slayer approaches guild girl for quest

>commercial break cut-off to black as someone makes a PWOOEEAGH sound

>unrelated cut to naked Cow Girl washing herself while Guild Girl is talking

>cut back to the guild while GS and GG are talking about the mission with Cow Girl standing in the background

>close-up cut to GG's face

>cut back to the previous shot, but with Cow Girl mysteriously disappeared from the background

Seriously, that shit was so distracting. I got the impression there was a point to that, but there wasn't, as if it was a major storyboarding error.

The OP is kind of alright, but the first 15 seconds are a bunch of nothing and it fizzles out a bit towards the end. The ED is just generic hard rock.

I feel like the adaptation is too basic for it to get a s2.

Dunno, but the episode felt underwhelming, I think it spent too much time depicting the other adventurers. It also skipped the other adventurer group getting gobbed before GS's arrival.

>All girl group goes into the mountain castle

>Find girl laying on the floor.

>The rush to help her.

>Activate trap, get ambushed, get caught.

>All of them gobbed then killed.

<All of this skipped.

The GS flashback also felt kind of weak. I guess to much time was wasted on cowgirl.

>CGI goblins

why though?

Filthy crossboarding secondary here. Seems like the first episode played up the shock factor, then they wound it back a little by showing GS through other people's eyes, in all of his autistic glory.

>Spilling his spaghetti on young farm girl.

>Paranoid security routine.

>Getting mogged by other silver ranked adventurers.

>Looks like a dirty hobo poorfag and stands in the corner of the guild until everyone leaves.

>Guild girl's relief of having someone capable to pawn gob jobs off too.

>Farm girl's uncle telling her to stay away from the dirty autist.

>Priestess's attempts to soften GS's approach falling on autistic ears.

>GS monologue which could refer to himself in the 3rd person.

>Various characters relieved GS made it home.

>Post credit minstrel scene.

I liked it. Not sure how faithful it was to the source material. The opening scene was kind of comfy with the nostalgia filter and the lute soundtrack. Seems like they'll be hooking up with an elf, some drunk old guy and a scalie next episode.

>>869550

It was faithful except for the fact that they skipped the original adventurer group getting gobbed in the episode, otherwise it was pretty 1:1.

>>869528

>Continued from-

Don't link that filth here. Keep it contained in its thread.

>>869540

Basically anyone with even a modicum of privacy who doesn't live in a frozen wasteland sleeps naked or near-naked, anon.

>>869535

>unrelated cut to naked Cow Girl washing herself while Guild Girl is talking

She was trying to wash away the survivor's guilt

>>869558

>Full of mosquitoes.

Depends on if there is still water around/ the elevation of the area.

Huh, apparently if I like Goblin Slayer I'm just a jew hating edgelord with shit taste. That's true. Also, it's worse than SAO. Well, now I'm embarrassed.

>>869557

>>869558

Goblins roam freely during the night too, she is practically asking to get gobbed.

>>869566

>made a species that needs rape to survive

>the concept of a species that needs to rape others to survive is "edgy"

>unrealistic

These faggots act like parasites don't exist.

>>869569

Pretty much all the girls are asking for it. The career field of hunting goblins seems to be overwhelmingly popular with the female demographic. Almost as if they subconsciously want to get gobbed.

Even the goblins, with their minimal cognition, are probably thinking

"I wonder why they keep sending us these sexy bitches? Oh well. Guess it's rape time."

>>869566

>(CROSSBOARDER WAS TOLD TO LURK MORE)

Well, if you see this, at least know that we already know that eceleb faggots are losing their shit over GS. We don't care, though. The vast majority of "professional" anime critics are pure cancer with shit taste and awful opinions.

>>869576

If anything it's annoying constantly seeing some variation of IN DEFENSE OF GOBLIN SLAYER video pop up in my YouTube feed, which is a bandwagon everyone is jumping onto now that GS is turning out to be one of the most watched things this season. The actual outrage was likely minor in size too, yet these faggots are trying to make it seem bigger for extra views.

>>869577

When it comes to social media, it's almost always exaggerated to absurd levels. When you break down the numbers, even when looking at e-celebs with hundreds of thousands of followers, their social reach amounts to a few hundred people on a really good day where they happen to say something so stupid that it goes "viral". It's just not worth caring about or keeping track of.

>>869566

>everybody complains about rape in SAO

Do they? I remember people complaining about the villain motivation making no sense or the show just abruptly ending the tower climb or the huge shift in tone or the lack of sensible mmo rules. To my knowledge no one even gets raped why would anyone complain about it being to rapey?

>>869573

It's not as though they don't, but do you really think a fairly advanced human civilization would allow literal low-end pests to run around raping their best women and pillaging and committing small scale genocide? The whole point is that they're not particularly difficult to kill, a midrange adventurer can solo dozens of them, and yet people just don't care. It must be some hardcore ancap country, where the only deciding factor in whether the goblins get exterminated is if the villagers can cough up enough money to pay adventurers.

And the fact that it's edgy is another thing entirely. Raping young girls and then murdering them is a completely unnecessary addition to the setting. It would be just as valid, hell, even more valid to hate goblins if they were their own self-reliant species that simply chose to mooch off of humans, instead of making them a species that strictly biologically relies on raping humans. The reason the writer added that wasn't for the sake of the setting, it was to bait the audience into caring, because there's a million other works out there where monsters kill humans, but hey, in Goblin Slayer, they're raping all the young sexy women all the time, not every other fantasy manga has that!

>>869582

It's the middle of bumfuck nowhere and they are in the middle of a war with the maou. You really think whatever the government is would waste resources protecting a few poor villages?

>>869582

I've never seen people so persistently sperg over sloppy writing . Fantasy worlds never make sense, overpowered adventurers freely moving, like independent armies, through every land is retarded. Dungeons are retarded, it's all just slapdash world ornamentation to create a reality people have come to expect and like. No different than cowboys who weren't accurate representations of living in the wild west.

It's okay to not like that but GS isn't special or the most egregious example of a setting that doesn't make sense. Consider the matrix, how exactly do machines get energy from feeding people and simulating a virtual reality? Since when were livestock of any kind a valuable source of fuel.

>>869573

The whole thing with raping humans being required for reproduction is an odd universe building choice. You could still have the goblins raping human chicks left and right, without it being necessary for reproduction. That just over complicates things and raises questions. Like, why the fuck do the humans keep sending females to fight the goblins?

I guess I can suspend my disbelief, because I will admit seeing all these bad ends for female adventurers left and right is pretty satisfying to my morbid mind. In fact, they could go further with it.

>>869582

>And the fact that it's edgy is another thing entirely. Raping young girls and then murdering them is a completely unnecessary addition to the setting

Not really because that's the only thing that would make GS' obsession with exterminating goblins believable.

>>869592

2/2

>Goblins differ in that they cannot choose not to do evil, having been created by the gods/GM specifically with evil in mind. There is no room in them even for mere harmlessness.

Neither can collectives of humans, and as ethnic cleansing does not concern individuals but collectives the same holds true. When you have hundreds of thousands of individuals their individual traits completely cancel out and disappear and you are left with a force representing the sum total of the collective, essentially their racial characteristic.

>A goblin placed on a deserted island with a man and a woman will kill the man and rape the woman. Replace the goblin with another human, and the likelihood of evil acts goes from "will" to "may", and depends on the individuals. That makes all the difference in the world.

That's why no one has ever bothered to ethnically cleanse and island with three people on it. Killing the odd one there isn't even ethnic cleansing at all.

>Do some races have a higher probability than others? Absolutely, but it is never 0% or 100% from that factor alone. And those are the only thresholds that are absolute, without a relative comparison to an arbitrary "acceptable rate", about which one can always ask "why is it not lower/higher?".

Not really, no. The argument essentially starts with asserting that we have enough of death and suffering as it is among our kin and then asking if the existence of this other group will make it worse or not. If not then coexistence is possible.

>"if only it were that simple"

>The problem of killing a genuinely good goblin just for being a goblin is simply not a factor

It is that simple, even with good goblins. A genuinely good goblin would help you kill the other goblins and then himself because he would see his kind for what it is. Ironically enough this what right now is done through a distorted representation of history to the one human race elevated enough to even think in such terms.

>>869585

Just how many places get hit? The narrative is that it's a never-ending desperate war with constants deaths, they make it seem like there's a whole lot of goblins and victims of goblins, when you get several goblin killing quests per what, weekly period? And yet it's not that big a deal, the government doesn't get involved. If nothing else, at least the narrative is pretty disjointed, even if it isn't strictly impossible.

>>869587

I don't think GS is a huge turd or anything, but it's certainly not great either, and yet every thread I've seen is chock fucking full of this

>Haha look at this dumb YouTuber saying that Goblin Slayer is bad and edgy, when it's like, totally not edgy or bad in any way, fellow /v//a/ posters!

>>869589

Goblins murdering your family and friends is not a believable cause for wanting to genocide goblins?

>>869592

>>869593

The exact same thing happened last thread, with a /pol/tard responding to a post from the first thread and starting the whole thing over again.

Just take your nonsense to a more appropriate board and let the discussion stay about slaying goblins.

>>869577

>YouTube feed

This is where you done fucked up.

>>869577

>Thing gets discussed because of something controversial

>Because of the buzz content creators make content to get some exposure

>Which makes more discussion happen

>Which makes more content more profitable

Now you know why SAO became so big.

>>869557

And I thought it was only me.

MOAR RAEP

>>869580

> To my knowledge no one even gets raped why would anyone complain about it being to rapey?

Doesn't Asuna get raped and tied up in a fairy sex dungeon? Or is it just implied?

You know when her supposedly giving father literally pimp his comatose daughter out...

God SAO writing is pure garbage, no wonders those morons like it.

>>869605

I looked up the stats because I was curious, and pajama usage is way lower than I thought (6-13% for men). I guess I'm unusual.

>>869534

She IS a sadistic evil fuck though, and that is on top of taking discipline seriously.

>>869616

>somebody made stats on that

I seriously doubt their reliability.

>>869616

I usually sleep commando in gym shorts and either a polyester shirt of a tank top.

>>869616

I sleep in my underwear or naked. It's too fucking hot here to sleep in more.

I don't remember Goblin Slayer coming off as quite this autistic in the manga. Murdering hordes of mini niggers seems like a noble enough cause, you would at least think there would be more goblin slayers in this setting.

>>869630

The only reason I would want something like this while camping is to get up in the middle of the night to take a piss and it doesn't even do that.

>>869648

>addressed in the last thread

No ultra-autists ranted about how believable/unbelievable the setting is and how it applies to their busted understanding of history, mankind and whatever political ideology they got bumping in their skull. The last thread was interesting at first and had some interesting point-counterpoint with the themes of the story or why some anons react the way they do it despite having no problem with Berserk. This was fine, but then it got into comparisons, intricate complaints about realism, believably, human history and of course migrants and Rotherham subjects (in everything but name). Then it turned into nothing but really stupid people pretending to be smart while complaining or explaining pointlessly.

People want that kind of discussion? Sure, whatever, but when it swells like an Akira baby and squishes out basically any other kind of discussion for all its bloat and bickering it is infuriating.

And in the end I gotta ask why this? Why Goblin Slayer? Why did these people stick like barnacles to the bottom of a sailing ship to this story? Is it the rape? The Doom Guy-tier best autistic protag?

Can't we just enjoy the manga/show without all of this cluttering to the brim every thread?

>All this off-topic political shitflinging because an faggot e-celeb got angry about a show

You faggots really aren't any better than halfchan /a/

>>869641

>>869665

>>869672

The problem with all this is that the series is very simple. It is about a man abnormally devoted to killing goblins. The criticism about the setting and worldbuilding are directly tied to the core of the story. When it struggles to adequately explain the situation regarding the killing of goblins (i.e. why he is abnormal for bothering with them, why they are so universally underestimated, etc), that is a very real problem. It's not "nitpicking" to point out glaring issues.

And it's made all the more valid because it takes itself relatively seriously. It may be a literal D&D session by the gods, but it still makes more of an effort than most, and that draws all the more attention to where it fails.

>>869665

>How about doing it so that it doesn't become the grossly dominant, if not exclusive, focus of these threads until everything is run into the ground?

>Just enjoy the story or don't. Enough already.

But that's kind of like saying people should stop talking about Tomo-chan and just enjoy the story because Fumita doesn't bother with those problems. Those threads have been almost exclusively meta debate since forever because of everything that's wrong with it. When a series has an entire world where everyone is as dumb as Jun and things make no sense you can't expect people not to be mesmerized by it.

>>869694

They're probably trying to get to the point where the other three characters join the party as quick as possible.

>>869722

Anon, stop applying real world physics to a fantasy world. Don't you know that you can't ever compare the two?

>>869694

>>869706

I think rushing the attack on the elven fortress took away a lot of what I enjoyed in the manga.

The best part of GS is seeing how methodical and calculating GS is when taking care of goblins. That, and the removal of the girl adventurers getting wrecked by gobs meant we didn't get to see more goblin guerilla tactics either, nor did we get to see the scene that highlighted the importance of wearing a helmet when adventuring.

>>869729

I can certainly agree on that front as well. While I did like the scene, I hope they don't make foregoing those elements that you refer to a regular thing, and they're just trying to hurry up and establish the basic premise of the story, as >>869711 says.

>>869729

Yeah, it was quite clever of the goblins to use a corpse to lure the adventurers into the fortress and not only that, use that same corpse as part of a trap device.

>nor did we get to see the scene that highlighted the importance of wearing a helmet when adventuring.

>>869716

>making this story an allegory is not remotely a fault of its own but of other anons with chips on their shoulders

I don't think anyone says this was intended as an allegory for anything, it's more like the parallels are just too obvious not to see. I mean change some names and many segments could straight out have come from a "/pol/ goes to Middle Earth" gag series. Also, what series that didn't go the safe route regarding something didn't have people make comparisons to reality and how/if this would apply there?

I'm going to be totally honest... Before this came out I was really excited because I like the concept and goblins in general. My view though is that to me this series is to anime and manga what The Walking Dead is to comics and tv shows which is to say a really strong opening hook and then nothing really unique or interesting after that.

Goblin Slayer has a really strong opening introducing how brutal goblins are in this world and how ill-advised it is to underestimate them. How if they existed in the real world they would be an absolute nightmare to contend with. It introduces the main character well as well... And then honestly... What is there after that? I'm going to go into spoilers but the bottom line is I remember where it left off really sucked. I absolutely hated the ending because of how generic and cheery it was.

Basically from here we're introduced to some new characters but they have about as much depth as Goblin Slayer. I think the most defining trait I remember was the lizard shaman loving... Cheese. The biggest moment in the series was Goblin Slayer killing a monster that was not a goblin... And that cringy ending. Goblin Slayer just comes to the guild and announces a huge army of Goblins is attacking the farm he lives at, and everyone he's ever helped or worked with, every single character ever shown in the series all volunteer to go off with him to defend his farm. It changed my entire perception of the series and his character. It didn't feel earned. Seeing him just suddenly begging for help and getting it from everyone made him feel like under that helmet maybe he was like 15 or something. I don't know, personal opinion pls no bully.

>>869722

While a longbow would've been better, I think there was a perspective issue with this. It's a close enough range where he could be hit with a rock from a sling but when you see him firing at the fortress it looks like he's much further away. I can't complain about it though since the change makes him being a goblin sniper look even better.

>>869641

The problem is, it’s trying to be “realistic” but only applies said “realism” selectively. You can’t do that and not expect to get called out on it

>>869790

Because there's nothing to talk about at the moment. The whole episode was just 3 events:

>Cowgirl's past and goblin's slayer daily routine.

>Muh guild people shitting on GS and taking every quest except of goblin quest.

>GS and priestess setting a fortress on fire while GS talks about himself in 3rd person.

There's so much you can squeeze out of it before you start to question how much sense the whole situation makes sense.

>>869758

Anon,. those other adventures weren't going to help him at all until one of them reminded him "Hey, autist Slayer-sama, we're mercenaries. Offer us a reward and we'll help" and that was when Guild Girl offered a reward of 1 gold per goblin. And then, and only then, were they going to help. When they got paid.

This is one of the things that separates, or seems to, GS from the rest of the adventurers. They kill things for money, if it's not worth their rank in cash they won't bother. GS doesn't kill for money, he slays goblins because it needs to be done. Getting paid only helps him slay more goblins.

>>869790

>why do secondary niggers shit everywhere

We will never know, anon.

>>869835

To be fair I think through their own incompetence goblin slayer was rated pg or some shit. Either way they're still fucking morons.

>>869835

They're not grown adults. They're grown children.

>>869817

Yes but that just makes it worse because that was how the guild girl got to help, by making a special exception so everyone would help him. It just didn't feel like most of the characters should care enough to help yet. It felt rushed.

The thing is, everyone flipped out because the first episode has this brutal scene of the novice party getting decimated by the goblins, but let's be honest, that's really the highlight of the series. Nothing after that is anywhere near as brutal. GS kills some baby goblins, GS suffocates some goblins in a fort, GS uses a teleport scroll to kill a monster that is not a Goblin. That's basically it. After that initial shocking scene it gets very generic.

>>869835

>Grown ass fucking adults can't make their own viewing choices?

Isn't that the meaning of "viewer discretion"?

>Fully engrish OP.

Nice. Not as amazing as if the whole series was in engrish but nice nonetheless.

>>869694

I think the episode was nicely done. Sure, they left out those other adventurers getting TPKD but that was done much better in the LN anyways. Both the logic and morals in the manga where kinda off.

It did look kinda strange how far they are standing away from the fort. Wouldn't that make it more likely that some gobs could escape before they close off the exit?

>>869560

>GAVE HER TITS, GOD DAMN IT!

Not seeing any and I'm quite happy about that.

>>869591

>Except nothing about the places we actually see, like this town, gives the necessary feeling of desperation for that to make sense.

Unless it's the frontier towns or the ones caught in the No Man Lands, there's no need for desperation.

>>869835

Don't they rip their shit from crunchyroll? Crunchyroll said they would add a disclaimer.

>>869921

I agree it is a pretty bog standard affair, but for me what keeps me reading is seeing Goblin Slayer go for this single minded autist to slowly, ever so slowly, star to repair himself and think that maybe, just maybe, there is more to life than endlessly slaying gobs.

Thus we get to the real question, who will Goblin Slayer end up impregnating?

>>869566

I'll counter this SJW sperging by a niggereactor telling those people to shut up.

>>870193

Yeah, there's nothing explicitly preventative about their organization, but that's the name of their game. I'm not sure how you could overhaul it to pay for all those fucktards and still maintain effectiveness against larger threats, though. Might be better to have preventative groups inside of it and then leave the money grubbing to subjugation for materials from dragons or other things, probably for reagents or crafting materials.

Anyway, is dnd world, shit's not optimal.

>>869729

>That, and the removal of the girl adventurers getting wrecked by gobs meant we didn't get to see more goblin guerilla tactics either, nor did we get to see the scene that highlighted the importance of wearing a helmet when adventuring.

I felt it was a bit of a mistake too, given that it missed an opportunity to drive home how quickly things can turn to custard if you underestimate goblins for even a moment. I think I'll dump those pages here for the secondaries.

Also until you pointed it out I never realised the purpose of rock pinging off GS's helmet was to be contrasted with the adventurer that didn't have one.

>People flipped out immensely over the mild rape scene

>Subbers had to practically trigger warning the show

How long until they start censoring shit on their own?

>>870330

They're going to photoshop the shields I bet.

>>870258

Hi /tg/

>>869729

I feel like they're really rushing to get to the Farm seige chapter. My guess is they'll probably end he season with it.

Boobs voice is too young for her boobs.

>>870023

>>869835

Does Erai Raws rip their subs too? They had the same fucking disclaimer.

>>870552

Erai Raws rips directly from HS and just cleans it up.

>>870193

At the very least, the guild offers:

>trustworthy escrow service for reward money, confirmation of quest completion

>vets adventurers for skill and good behavior

>maintains reliable ledger for quests

>customer (fan)service

>nice indoors area for meeting, planning, and networking with other adventurers

>approval process for contracts to prevent market manipulation and other schemes

And it would not surprise me if they offered:

I'm going into this series blind, but I'm going to generalize from real guilds.

>limited banking services (esp. letters of credit so you can accept quest payment at any branch in any currency)

>insurance contracts

>mutual aid for adventurers

>notary services for agreements between guild members

>mediation for disagreements between guild members

It's more useful than you give it credit for. Sure, you could organize these things spontaneously, and you could enjoy most of these benefits, but there's a good reason they formed a guild for this sort of thing.

>>870437

Looks like sugita and nakamura are voicing the lizard and dwarf. So i'll stick around for that at least.

>>870567

Well, don't I look silly now. Anyway, I want to leave this post up because I'm genuinely interested in the topic and I'd like to know what other sorts of services a theoretical adventurer's guild could provide its members.

>>870339

I think most people, here and in the story world underestimate how dangerous goblins are. The drain on the economy and on the populace that goblins create is probably far greater than what the other evil species can manage. For my argument I'd like to draw a comparison with Overlord's adventurer system, where the higher ranked adventurers are considered national treasures. The silver ranked adventurers in GS are very much like the mithril and orichalcum adventurers in Overlord: not quite seen as top of the monster killing and evil subduing food chain, but they're the big guns that keep threats from blowing up. And then you have the GS goblins which are a threat to those silver ranked adventurers. It's being reiterated constantly: either through arrogance, sheer numbers of goblins, underestimating evolved goblins, or even sheer dumb luck, goblins can and do kill silver ranked adventurers. Hell, even in the first volume, when they go fight the ogre, the lone goblin hiding in the refuse pile would have most likely been able to seriously wound or kill one of the silver ranked adventurers had it not been for Goblin Slayer being so knowledgeable about goblins. Repeat this throughout the world, and increase the number and frequency of adventurer casualties for lower ranks. Add that up to the number of towns being ravaged and humans/elves/dwarves that goblins kill. Each goblin nest takes a small chip at the good aligned races' "national power", but those chips are so numerous and so all over the place that it feels like it takes a bigger toll than whatever other evils roam the GS world. And each of those nests taking a chip is so small and insignificant that it's not really looked as being as big of a problem as it is. It's the kind of problem you need to take a step back from in order to see the full picture, but when you have dragons and demon lords running around, it seems like no one really sees the need to do just that.

>>870468

Her voice actress did a shitty job.

>>870561

>Erai Raws rips directly from HS and just cleans it up.

No. They rip from CR and that's it. They only tend to add subtitles for more languages.

>>870634

>No. They rip from CR and that's it.

Untrue. See >>868574

>>869835

>Grown ass fucking adults can't make their own viewing choices?

But that's the entire point of the disclaimer: To allow people who don't want to view rape and violence to make a choice. I know what you want to complain about but viewing choice isn't it.

>>870641

Mentioned it before, but Dragon's Dogma. Overlord is pretty good if you want more of a generic fantasy that doesn't take itself very seriously. There's also Dragon's Dogma Online if you want an MMO that isn't actually terrible. It's a bit of a bitch to set up and the entire community is nips but if you like DDDA it's a pretty good "sequel".

>>870645

>Real life parasites dont exist and therefore in world with fucking magic its less realistic to have them? Okay

I'll use the copy pasta for this one.

>All goblins born are male & need female humans to breed

That's a pretty big design flaw for a species to have. It means they have to risk death to even reproduce going into enemy territory. Furthermore, human pregnancy takes a long time, and sure we can say goblins mature faster despite being incubated in a human womb because magic, but the matter that the goblins are being made from comes from the mother, who wouldn't last very long in unhygienic conditions, certainly not after being dosed with poison that has poop in it. That's not even taking into consideration that they would have to keep the woman sedated or she could keep trying to escape or kill herself, unless they tie them up which I haven't seen. Even then she could bite her tongue and bleed out. To raise their numbers to the amounts seen in goblinslayer they'd have to find a LOT of females, but they wouldn't even be able to get half that amount without geting noticed and stamped out by an angry mob.

I haven't seen anything implying that goblin sperm is absurdly magical and can keep females alive and compliant for multiple birthings inside the literal shithole they live in. Even if you get 6-goblin litters and they mature to adulthood in one month with no casualties, you'd have to assume that goblin fetuses don't damage the womb, birthing in a dirt pit doesn't give her an infection, she's able to take in enough nutrients to support constant birthing, and that her body doesn't reject the fetuses due to stress. Even under these perfect breeding conditions, they need to kidnap a lot of women at a time to allow them to build the kind of numbers we see in large nests.

Even if you say goblin babies are the size of mice, there’s only so many problems you can hand wave with the fetuse side of the equation. Human wombs are not designed for mass reproduction.

In any case, all those goblins would need something to eat, especially when they’re growing. And if they grow fast they’ll need to gather a lot of food fast. Goblins may be small, but they aren’t so small that a single human corpse could feed 5 goblins enough to mature to the size we see. The amount of food they’d take, whether via theft or hunting, would get them noticed pretty quickly and they would be considered a real problem instead of a mere annoyance like they seem to be in the show. People would learn the typical goblin pattern and when they see one they would assume there to be a lot more.

>>870670

>need female humans

Implying they cant breed in any other way.

The series is in a strange place. As an anime, it's normalfag-bait, but it was adapted faithfully enough to turn off a fair amount of them.

>>870690

Gobs look generic. And dragons dogma also is probably most generic looking game. Not that its bad.

>>869596

The point about a good goblin wanting to kill other goblins still stand, however.

>>870695

>Gobs look generic.

Sure, I mean you can't have that much variation if you want them to look like gobs. I still think their design is really close to the ones you see in Goblin Slayer.

>>870690

Especially when you compare this group shot to the one from the info page in volume 1 of the LN.

Page 118 in the english release.

>>870695

Dragon's Dogma has the kind of high quality "generic" that has so much love put in that it turns into "classic".

>>869532

People will be really dissapointed in later episodes then

It'll stop being dramatic and edgy pretty quickly

>>870674

Have never seen any female goblin and the manga implies that it's the only way they can reproduce.

Does the light novel say otherwise?

>>869535

The scene in the guild after the PWOOEEAGH and until it cuts back to cow girl at home was a flashback to the guild scene from cow girl's perspective. It was a pretty unnecessarily non-linear edit I'll admit, but I thought it was pretty obvious that's what was going on. Maybe having to put in a CM break right there is what made them intermix the two scenes like that so you wouldn't have just the end of the Guild scene after the break.

Thank you faggots, because everyone in the entire thread has been screeching at the top of their lungs often times for no reason I've decided I will never watch this anime, if it makes people this autistic I'm staying as far away from it as I can. Bye forever.

>>870726

>took him 3 threads to realize

>>869587

> Fantasy worlds never make sense

A better phrasing would be

>Fantasy worlds have varying degrees of illogical or unreal occurances that require the reader to suspend their disbelief. While also having to earn that suspension by merits of having a draw to the reader themselves.

Take Dungeon meshi. It's fantasy, has monsters, dungeons, magic, etc. But is coherent in it's construction so that even when you don't have all the information, what is presented is a world that feels consistent with itself and arguably fairly organic. In short, it's well written fantasy and thus people don't trip over some of the plot inconsistencies or unrealities of the setting.

Sloppy writing is a great way to get the largest number of people to tear your series apart because there isn't a saving grace to the story. This is a setting that wants the reader to accept that an organization can only afford to send out the lowest ranking adventurers because the reward money supplied by the client, minus the guilds cut, is insufficient to entice more qualified people. While in the same chapter state that this same organization is desperate to create a stable goblin extermination force because of the severity of this problem. This is a setting that contradicts itself on the severity of goblins and the opinions of the public towards them. They can't both be a big deal and underestimated when this trend of overpowering goblin forces has been happening for years now.

The reason people care less about the matrix's problems is because the core conceit of the series doesn't hinge around stuff like the energy situation. It's a background element. People acknowledge it's dumb and illogical but since the movie is actually about a single man coming into his own and opposing an AI control regime, it doesn't matter how bad the human battery idea is. The movie's core theme doesn't hinge on it.

>>870727

It took me two actually.

>>870726

This is actually the correct decision. I deftly avoided watching Darling in the Franxx due to this same gut feeling.

>>870639

I remember watching erai-raws's hakumei to mikochi's and the epilogues at the end of each chapter were a fucking mess.

>>870726

That's alright, you won't be missed.

>>869535

>The ED is just generic hard rock.

Also, just CG goblin slayer in a CG word graveyard walking towards the camera and then running in a very CG way.

>>870726

If you weren't already reading the manga, you don't belong in here anyway.

>>870706

I can see it already.

>why is the party interacting, is this a cooking anime now? I bet they will get wiped out

>why is the healer being useful?

>why is the party still alive? when will the elf get gobbed?

>wow 10 episodes in and barely anyone has been gobbed

>what? this was a dnd game?

Those people were the real goblinos all along.

>>869594

>>870728

Well, a problemhere is the usual hyperbole of the internet. It's either the worst shit or the best masterpiece, with nothing inbetween.

GS certainly has many problems and I see hwy it isnt enjoyable for everyone but at the same time it is just frustrating to see people nitpicking at bits of the setting that get never even brought up in threads about far shittier series.

One of the main problems is that the series is based on RPG logic. Again, put the whole thing in a game perspective.

>low level adventurers are usually a good bit stonger than your average commoner

>goblins are a common low-level enemy

>they can even kill a newbie party, under the right circumstances

>the adventurers either die or move on after a certain time

>who is going to take care of the goblins then?

They are a constant threat in a generic fantasy setting, can't have the setting just run out of low-tier quests after all. At the same time you usually won't bother with a low level quest if you can get a more rewarding one.

Of course, such an RPG setting has many logic errors but you can't really leave them out without changing the very core concept of the series. That doesn't even mean that this couldn't have been handled better but the easiest way of "fixing" the problems of such an setting can't be applied here.

>Dungeon meshi

Come on now. That's a bit unfair. DM is one of the best fantasy series in general and certainly the best, by far, that is set in an RPG-like setting. It would be great if more series were that good but you can't really blame GS for not being as good as the very best there is. Especially if that is the one single example that you could come up with.

>>870726

No one cares.

>>870706

Not that there's no risk, but most of the reason that we don't see any other TPKs is because everyone starts listening to Goblin Slayer, following his strategies, and learning from his experience.

>>869673

>And in the end I gotta ask why this? Why Goblin Slayer? Why did these people stick like barnacles to the bottom of a sailing ship to this story? Is it the rape? The Doom Guy-tier best autistic protag?

This guy is a one-man

RIGHT WING DEATH SQUAD

Who else did you expect to see drawn to this series? /pone/?

polite sage for offtopic

>>869743

>"/pol/ goes to Middle Earth" gag series

Somebody please make this real. Where's the fagstarter I could pay into?

>>869930

It's what the content ratings are for. When I'm already watching the beginning of an episode it means I already fucking decided i want to watch it. Stop bothering me about it you faggot wannabe-nannies.

>>870648

>>870779

>>870780

I never could tell if Darkness is still happy in that second image or not.

Wasn't the witch girl's boob size reduced?

I have to say, the thing I like about Goblin Slayer the most is that it builds on the idea of "tiny fuckups can be deadly in this line of work." In my industry of work (electrical), the death rate is absolutely absurd at something like 1 in 5 people who work on high voltage will die before age 30. After age 30, electrical works basically stop dying almost altogether since they've build up their safety foundation so the official government statistics look mild compared to the actual numbers. The point is, one little fuckup can be deadly and it's nice to see an author who understands these sort of concepts and can incorporate it into a fantasy setting like he does.

>>870801

>Human anatomy

That's supposed to say Goblin anatomy.*

>>870801

>Has it ever been outright stated that Goblins must rape and don't simply do so for fun?

Of course it has that's the only way they make new goblins, there are no female goblins.

Also it's not just humans it works with elves too. It's quite possible they chose to rape sentient being because they're evil and they could have kids with cattle or something.

>>870797

>After age 30, electrical works basically stop dying almost altogether since they've build up their safety foundation

It's more like by 30 all the low(er) IQ workers have all gotten themselves killed and only the ones that were actually suited for the job from the start remain. Army evaluation shows rising IQ and not getting yourself killed in accidents correlates very strongly, but of course it is not politically correct to test for these things as minorities don't fare well.

>>870808

>It's more like by Steel Rank all the low(er) IQ adventurers have all gotten themselves killed and only the ones that were actually suited for the job from the start remain. Guild evaluation shows rising IQ and not getting yourself killed in accidents correlates very strongly, but of course it is not politically correct to test for these things as meta-humans don't fare well.

>>870808

>It's more like by 30 all the low(er) IQ workers have all gotten themselves killed

Nah, I've known smart guys who died while the dumb-as-bricks idiots survived. It's more about having a routine and autistically remembering safety guidelines than it is about being smart. It's the guy who uses a 250V-rated multimeter on a 600V panel because he's in a hurry/has more important things to worry about that gets torched at temperatures hotter than the surface of the sun, not the idiot who always checks his gear before doing the job.

Polite sage.

>>870814

The rest of the OP felt like something straight out of a 90s RPG anime. I bet if this was released 20 years ago it would be considered a masterpiece today.

>>870810

Thinking about it, I wonder what the eugenic effects of gobbos are. They certainly work well on adventurers and I guess they will disproportionately effect the dumber frontier farmers too. Is CG actually doing his people a disservice?

>>870811

There are always the exceptions that confirm the rule. When you are talking percentages as large as 20 % though the statistics will dominate.

>a 250V-rated multimeter on a 600V panel because he's in a hurry

This is exemplary of things higher IQ makes you less prone to do. Patience and diligence is also strongly correlated to IQ.

>>870820

That is an accurate translation. Funnily enough she actually uses the English word "case".

>>870825

See, as a secondary I didn't know that and that scene just felt comical to me.

>>870833

Because these are isolated frontier towns in the middle of nowhere that primarily survive on subsistence farming. Meanwhile there is a huge fucking demon war and a ton of other threats that pay much more money. As the adventurers see it why should I risk my life for people I do no know for very little compensation.

>>870596

>Was that a prideful Lancer trying to talk up receptionist-chan?

Yeah, the guild tells them to basically let the adventurers hit on them so they can sell them stamina potions. I think at one point she has a mental breakdown because she led a bunch of porcelains to their deaths so she tries to ignore lancer's advances after that incident.

I loved the manga but for some reason I feel too tired to bother with watching anime recently. Is it worth it?

>>870833

Because the setting was built around allowing Goblin Slayer to exist.

>>870833

That's kind of the biggest problem with people who actually get into the series. The author wrote a cliche fantasy adventure world, which is filled with massive plotholes by default.

Best we can figure it kind of goes like this

>Lack of adventurers to go on petty and boring missions like patrolling every forest and cave for goblins

>the story is set in a fairly remote area, which means resources are even more scarce

>Bigger threats exist which demand great attention from the Guild

>Goblins lay low for long periods of time and the occasional sighting in the wild is far less dangerous than the specialized situations we see GS in.

>Goblins are apparently showing up from another world, meaning their overnight raids and ability to build up huge armies without people noticing doesn't fall within the usual natural cycle that other monsters may have

>>870833

Same reason why the peasants in Seven Samurais were almost left to the brigands.

>>870833

You say that like goblins are the only ones that kidnap and rape. This world supposedly has dragons, brigands and even demons all currently threatening it and all offering up far more glory for the killing. Goblins also tend to not target large cities so much as small villages no one gives a shit about most of the time. It's just like how the rich don't give a damn about the problems of the poor. Throughout history that has never once changed and it applies to fiction as well. Also poor people can't afford to pay wages appropriate for goblin slaying, but Goblin Slayer doesn't do it for money.

>>870836

>Is it worth it?

Depends on why you loved the manga.

>>870834

Because these are isolated frontier towns in the middle of nowhere that primarily survive on subsistence farming.

What does this have to do with my question? If anything they should be more wary of goblins.

>Meanwhile there is a huge fucking demon war

The war is so far away that when the demon king is defeated, there is barely a celebration. Narratively speaking the frontier is on their own.

>and a ton of other threats that pay much more money.

Sure, but where are these threats? Some random bandits that Lancer fought and?

>>870820

By ear she says

>souiu keisu ga are no wa jijitsu desu ne

so it's more like

>things like such cases are a fact, aren't they?

or like what an English speaker would say

>I guess you can't deny that it happens, can you?

so not really an overt implication that it's very rare like in the sub and more like wanting to avoid the question.

>>870843

>I would argue that the problem lies in the expectation that goblins can be handled by completely novice adventurers, and that by the time you have experience you don't need to kill goblins anymore. You go and fight them for experience, and if you live you gain it. But you don't use that experience against the goblins, you move on to other shit.

That's the problem. It makes no sense for anyone to have that expectation. They specifically say how common it is for Porcelains to lose, and every Porcelain team lost means the goblins reproduce faster. We know that later on in the series a goblin horde gets big enough that the town's entire guild has to mobilize to stop them; that goblins can become a significant threat is clearly known to adventurers and the guild.

To point out the bigger threats elsewhere leaves it making even less sense. How can they afford to throw away manpower by sending people in so wastefully? It would be one thing if goblins were a tough enough opponent that they were just hard to beat, but that's not it. The very first group we see was killed through sheer recklessness, and not only does their degree of arrogance not make sense in a world where humanity is very much not the top of the food chain, it doesn't make sense that such groups are sent to their deaths as a matter of course when there is a clear and present need for adventurers to survive long enough to build skills and experience. The goblin tribe we saw in episode 1 had five women, not including the fighter girl. We can only assume they probably killed at least that many in the process of taking them. And that was met with the absolute minimum possible response. If the situation is truly so dire that that level of losses is met with barely more than "it can't be helped", then how can manpower be so common that it can be wasted so needlessly?

>All these autistic redditspacing blogposters

Guess I'm staying away from the threads for this one.

>>870853

The expectation is that the early attrition will weed out the weak and stupid. Plus, the Guild pretty much just serves as a questgiver. The rankings are just to determine how capable a person probably is and thus the odds of success with a given quest. If the guild isn't giving quests, they aren't making money. So from the operating standpoint it's better for them to give porcelains a gob quest and attempt to warn them than deny it.

Adventurers are independent volunteer mercs. They don't actually have any sort of leadership beyond voluntary groupings. If they want to solve the issue of deaths, they'd have to become a more authoritative body and become more organized. Essentially become a mercenary company. But that requires extended contracts and less freedom for adventurers, which would be a damn difficult thing to implement unless it has royal authority backing it and protection from competition. "If you want to be an adventurer in this realm, you MUST register with the guild and MUST carry out the following duties under penalty of X".

>>870843

>>870853

I'm pretty sure it was outright stated by Goblin Slayer himself this episode.

>A farmer brags about how he chased off a Goblin that happened to be at the outskirts of his farm

>Turns out it was a stray escaping from gobbo genocide

>Farmer becomes an adventurer years later thinking he's tough shit

>Doesn't realize the goblins both learned and attack in numbers

>Gets his shit fucked

Actually I'm pretty sure this is the second time now in the anime alone that this has been stated pretty much outright. In this episode alone even the adventurers were told by the guild receptionist to take the sewer rat quests first (and they nearly died fighting off Goblins- guess they were more prepared at least/actually listened even if they ignored her). A goblin is a porcelain-tier threat. A pack of goblins is an obsidian-tier threat. A pack with a hobgoblin and leader is a Steel-tier threat, etc.

>>870858

Nobody cares.

Just give it two or three more episodes for them to realize that the edgy rape and murder mostly dies down with each chapter covered.

>>870859

>The expectation is that the early attrition will weed out the weak and stupid

This is retarded because outside of any chosen ones or heavily trained human. Nobody should be expected to know all of the ins and outs of combat and adventuring when they first show up.

The mage from the first party was some valedictorian. The monk was the last student of presumably a decent fighter given her skills. Priestess is literally a chosen prayer character. With no training or forewarning 2 of the three of them can no longer do anything or improve due to death or trauma. Saying this is a sane system when they already have a rule about suggesting easier jobs, yet don't enforce it is another reason I can't stand this series.

And as someone else pointed out, humans aren't top of the food chain. So why act so recklessly when it takes decades to replace good adventurers. But monsters can seemingly just warp in from space?

>>870853

The people in the town sure seem content and happy-go-lucky. I could understand if they were all starving and in distress but is really seems no one gives a fuck about a village of young girls being kidnapped by horrible monsters and it's just strange. Is human life really of such little value?

Also, I haven't read the manga so what's in the anime so far is what I know, but it really seems adventurers really have no clue what the hell goblins do. The clerk sure seems to think they have no clue what they are doing and you really get the feeling that she sees this shit every day, Like when they are at the bar in the evening wouldn't some guy say "Hey girl, you a novice? If you get surrounded by goblins they will rape and rape you until you die so don't go after a nest thinking they are small fry. We lose novices to goblins all the time."

The reminds me of the clerk. When she sees a naive 14 year old girl about to go get her belly sliced open before she is raped to death why doesn't she just tell her what happened to the last party of novices that tried? Like tell her and say that's why it would be a good idea to pass up a full goblin lair for now. I know I would. So far she's the most cold blooded one in the whole anime, just zero fucks given.

>>870865

The guild has the authority to enforce only insomuch as it can afford to lose money and let quests go undone.They can't force high-level adventurers to take low-level jobs and the corresponding crap pay, nor can they afford to boost the pay to make it more enticing. Adventuring is short-term contract-based volunteer work. The only time the guild is involved is distributing quests and money as the middleman between adventurer and questgiver.

Also, they did have the skills necessary to succeed, but skill doesn't make up for stupidity. They willfully refused to protect themselves or prepare for medical emergencies. They're young and stupid and think they know everything. Which is why I would be in favor of mandatory training before admittance, because like boot that will pound into your head the fact that you don't know shit. But for that to happen, you would need the government itself backing the guild with enough authority to force this kind of thing, and I don't see a monarchy backing an autonomous freelance mercenary company under most circumstances.

>>870865

>Nobody should be expected to know all of the ins and outs of combat and adventuring when they first show up.

Knowing not to go after something that constantly gets everyone gobbed in the worst ways possible when you are a complete novice would be a pretty good divider between having potential and being too dumb to live. I'm not saying that's what they are doing but it would be a usable method for a guild not wanting to waste time on adventurers who are gonna get themselves killed anyway.

>With no training or forewarning 2 of the three of them can no longer do anything or improve due to death or trauma.

And that's because they were all really, really stupid.

>>870859

>"If you want to be an adventurer in this realm, you MUST register with the guild and MUST carry out the following duties under penalty of X".

By the way, given that is not the case this, and given that all the guild does is put notes up on a billboard, why do people even bother with the guild? Why not put it up on a billboard yourself and then either save the money the guild would jew out of you or offer a better reward for a more skilled adventurer?

>>870865

I could buy a certain degree of financially-driven apathy, but what really makes it hard to swallow is that, as you say, they had all the skills on paper, and it should have been so simple to work them into proper adventurers. Having the adventuring business set up for this kind of ineptness tastes of plot contrivance, trying to balance the threat of vs. response to goblins in the right way for Goblin Slayer to exist and be a badass.

>is another reason I can't stand this series.

I don't hate the series, personally. I just don't think it deserves the hype. I dropped the manga before the anime announcement, but I was willing to give the series a second chance. It still isn't impressing me though.

>>870866

>no one gives a fuck about a village of young girls being kidnapped by horrible monsters and it's just strange. Is human life really of such little value?

That alone could be explained by the bigger threats others have mentioned (though if it didn't adequately convey that threat it's a different flaw on its own), but the kicker is that that explanation doesn't work with the contentment you mention. That explanation is based on the idea that the bigger threat is immediate enough to not leave you the luxury of worrying about the smaller ones, but that isn't what we see. As has been mentioned, the town is distant enough that people don't really worry much about the whole demon army thing.

>>870866

>no one gives a fuck about a village of young girls being kidnapped by horrible monsters

How many people outside of /pol/ cared about or even know about Rotherham (and mind you some of the things that are happening in Britain are worse than anything that's happened in goblinslayer)?

People not caring and officials covering shit up are the most realistic part of goblinslayer.

>>870868

>The guild has the authority to enforce only insomuch as it can afford to lose money and let quests go undone

The very second job we see Goblin slayer take. He looks at three goblin slaying quests and concludes that two of them are beyond help and there were people already assigned to them. Jobs actually fail because of their current system.

>but skill doesn't make up for stupidity

>>870869

>And that's because they were all really, really stupid.

You know how you stop some starry eyed newbie out for glory from dying a pointless death when they can grow to contribute greatly? Training and warning. The idea that it's a good thing to "weed out the stupid" when some of these deaths are simply because of obvious ignorance on the part of people and the threat of goblins, is bizarre.

>>870871

>and it should have been so simple to work them into proper adventurers

Which as far at /tg/ and /v/ adventurer guilds go, is usually the protocol. Even setting as crazy as Monster hunter have you do gathering quests and supply runs before telling you to go fight the big stuff. At worst they want you to hunt herbivores or largely harmless carnivores. And if a big thing shows up the game tells you to run. This guild just now got the bright idea to start a training program after however many years it's been in foundation. Training that a real guild, and not just a tavern with a job board, would have already been providing.

I agree that this whole thing reeks of wanting to prop the threat of goblins up, without having to have the world treat them as the threat they are.

>I don't hate the series, personally

I don't hate it either, but I certainly get tired of people defending such obvious and poor worldbuilding like it makes sense from a verisimilitude perspective. I've sit through three adaptations of GS now, and still can't figure out why it got so popular outside of the visuals of the manga, and the autism of the main character.

I don't want boring episodes about backstory.

I want a 5 second screen that says "READ THE FUCKING MANGA", and then it jump to the real plot: anime tits, rape and genocide.

>>870912

>I want a 5 second screen that says "READ THE FUCKING MANGA", and then it jump to the real plot: anime tits, rape and genocide.

I like backstory, but this would be amusing as all shit. To be fair, backstory should be an episode 4 or 5 thing, not an episode 2 thing.

>>870912

That sounds like your typical 80s or 90s OVA. Animation first and the plot nowhere.

>>870862

>the goblins both learned

But they humans never do for some reason.

>>870912

This was enough back story for me. >>870947

>>869921

>Yes but that just makes it worse because that was how the guild girl got to help, by making a special exception so everyone would help him. It just didn't feel like most of the characters should care enough to help yet. It felt rushed.

You're contradicting yourself.

>>870670

>your copy-paste

Nature doesn't care

Nature produces a lot of weird species that have a high mortality rate or weird and risky/deadly reproduction methods.

Can you imagine how nice it'd be to be a race that, no matter who you fucked, you'd get untainted progeny?

>>871073

That's hardly more convoluted than where the original Tolkien goblins come from:

>capture elf

>brutally torture for years

>now an orc

>>871073

>Is it even said that they can only breed with female humanoids?

It was said that they came from the moon. Its highly unlikely they only can breed with humans. People love to invent things just to refute them. Its like people say that okrs from lotr cant sustain themselves because they have no farms and therefore lotr is stupid. While they had slave farms.

>>870878

>People not caring and officials covering shit up are the most realistic part of goblinslayer.

It would, but so far I'm not getting the vibe that this is an anime takes the objective view that most people are trash. It feels like standard formula, meaning people are typically being righteous but flawed.

>>870882

>Networking and time.

>Guild provides a larger pool of potential adventurers,

No, see they don't. They put shit up on a billboard and then adventurers go fight over what quests they want. The guild doesn't even give to shits about sending competent adventurers instead of dumbasses who get themselves killed and anger the monsters even more, one of the main things you pay for in real life when dealing with a hiring company. In fact that was like the main point of actual fucking guilds. If the guild decided which adventurer goes where or even just put in their veto for retards to guarantee adventurers of adequate skill to their contractor I could see the point, but as it is a public Adventurer's Billboard by the always occupied adventurer's bar would fill the exact same function and not jew peasants and adventurers out of their money.

>>870885

>some of these deaths are simply because of obvious ignorance on the part of people and the threat of goblins, is bizarre.

Remaining willfully ignorant in a profession that has you standing between life and death is a sure sign you are too stupid to live.

>>871078

The original Tolkien goblins were goblins. Hobgoblins. Which are different from orcs. I can't remember if the Silmarillion said how they came about though.

No one is covering it up. Its just a goddamn feudal frontier. There are a shitload of problems. When gobs started posing a big threat whole fucking guild went to exterminate them. When they posed a bigger threat they went and organized professional party to look into the matter.

>>871108

>guild

They do what they can and they cant just say "this job for 5 coppers require higher rank adventurer than you". And goblin jobs are usually easy even for unprepared teams as I said before.

What is stupid is lack of subsidies for these kinds of jobs and lack of regular army to deal with these threats and lack of any feudal land lords. Are these peasants supposed to be on their own in the fucking frontier?

>>871123

>The original Tolkien goblins were goblins. Hobgoblins. Which are different from orcs.

Goblins became synonymous with orks and it was a fairytale for kids. Later they were kind of replaced completely by orks. I dont think any ork was mentioned in Hobbit and I dont remember any goblins in Lotr.

>I can't remember if the Silmarillion said how they came about though.

I dont even remember orks mentioned there at all. Morgoth had armies but I cant recall who was in them except balrogs.

>>871123

>different from orcs

They are the same thing in the Hobbit and LotR. This is also true in GS. The books, of course. I'm not sure if the movies ever use the word goblin.

>>871127

>>871123

Goblins are corrupted elves. Orc and goblin is the same thing in Tolkien's writings, "goblin" being the elven name and "orc" being the human name.

>>871127

>They do what they can and they cant just say "this job for 5 coppers require higher rank adventurer than you".

Exactly. That is why it makes no sense for anyone to even bother with the guild.

>>871127

>>871130

>>871131

>orcs

>Before you could get round Mirkwood in the North you would be right among the slopes of the Grey Mountains, and they are simply stiff with goblins, hobgoblins, and orcs of the worst description.

I know Tolkien retconned himself all over the place regarding what orchs and goblins were even supposed to be but they are clearly made up to be different things. You don't write something like "men, people and humans of the worst description"

>"goblin" being the elven name

Orc is elven.

>>871143

>Orc is elven.

"Elven" isn't one language. Tolkien was a linguist first, and he spent a lot of time on the evolution and branching of his languages. Quenya is not the same as Sindarin.

Quenya for orc/orcs is "orco/orkor", and Sindarin is "orch/yrch".

>>871141

Guts has slain deadlier rapists though

Every woman in the city loves their awful-reeking local goblin genocidist.

>>871141

I think they would have common ground over their mutual fondness for explosive sidearms.

>>870706

>episode 4 or 5, meat shields

>halfway in the volume 2 stuff, goblin licking and chomping priestess

>end of volume 2, rape victim blaming

Eh, I can see the offended train trucking along all season long. I don't remember anything that bad happening in volume 3 though, unless multiarmed dark elves become an allegory for Indian racism or something.

>>871131

>Goblins are corrupted elves

Tolkien died before he made any origin story for orcs canon

>they are clearly made up to be different things

It depends on when in time Tolkien wrote the story. Various stories depict them as clearly different creatures, while others depict them as being the same.

To summarize: they are, as of right now, the same creature. They were not originally intended to be, Tolkien later changed his mind. It wasn't until he started writing the Lord of the Rings that Tolkien decided that The Hobbit was set in the same universe as the Silmarillion, at which point it would make sense that goblins and orcs are the same thing.

>>871078

That's an oversimplification, the Silmarillion is a mythologically themed work and thus the events are described in a mythological way. And as I said earlier, Tolkien came up with multiple possible orc origins but could never decide which one was canon.

Man I'm upset about the quality.

Generic isekai get better animation than this. Breaks my heart.

>>871143

>>871239

The Silmarilion is a thing, please read it.

The Hobbit was always set in the same world, think about how every single place and some people (Elrond, Gandalf, etc) are in both.

There are some small inconsistencies due to him simplifying it down to be suitable for children, i.e. Sauron became "the necromancer" when hiding in mirkwood, which has a few plot holes in it, the elves are rather cheerful towards a party of dwarves in Rivendell, though in Mirkwood they revert to the typical knife-ears behaviour. But otherwise, it's entirely consistent with the rest of the world.

>>871261

The elves are cheerful to Gandalf, they are indifferent to the Dwarfs. The elves LOVE Gandalf. If he wanted he could be buried neck deep in elven pussy.

>>871262

>buried neck deep in elven pussy

Who knew so many elves were into partial unbirth?

>>871294

Swords can become ineffective if they get too much blood on them. Goblin Slayer has it especially bad since his weaponry is either dirt cheap or stolen from goblins.

>>871294

It was too dulled by fighting. You cant kill more than a few of them without dulling it. And it was a shit quality sword. He does not carry anything good and useful for goblins because he expects to die and be looted by them. I dont remember exactly why he said that it has too much blood on it instead of "its dull already". Probably because it was a pilot chapter so it was a little bit over the top.

>>871297

>>871296

And here I was thinking there was some kinda magical shenanigans at work. Obviously it being dulled would be a problem but damn GS

>>871141

You wouldn't slay goblins with him because you'd get in the way. Even early on in the series he could behead a hundred of those.

>>871244

>Maybe now that the anime has come out, a game is in the works any day now.

It's not very often franchises get non-VN game adaptations, and even when they do they tend to be simple things. Best you could hope for a GS game would be some kind of side-scrolling beat 'em up.

>>871298

Yeah, sadly the part where he explain all his equipment is literal trash didn't show yet.

Though I'm unsure if there even is, I may be mistaking that scene from the manga about the early years of GS, rather than the more "present" ones where he is already an expert hunter.

So are there any fan translations of Volume 6 or Volume 7 floating around? The only translations I can find for those are Chink, and I can't read that shit either.

>>871260

>She could have easily killed him but she let her guard down

Or, you know, wearing a fucking helmet.

Dragon's Dogma goblins weren't even hard in groups.

>>871261

The Silmarilion was compiled by his son, who desided to choose the "corrupted elves" origin in.

>>871261

>The Hobbit was always set in the same world

No it wasn't.

Originally this world was self-contained, but as Tolkien began work on the Lord of the Rings, he decided these stories could fit into the legendarium he been working on privately for decades.

>Read the Silmarilion

Have you? Doesn't seem like it.

>>871174

>"Elven" isn't one language.

No one said it was. Before you get deeper into it perhaps you should begin with English?

>>871239

>It depends on when in time Tolkien wrote the story. Various stories depict them as clearly different creatures, while others depict them as being the same.

Which has been my point all along.

>>871296

>Swords can become ineffective if they get too much blood on them.

I hope you were leading him on.

>>871123

People die in accidents and from stupidity all the time.

There's no shortage of clips featuring SOLDIERS fucking up greande throws, fireing a rocket launcher without checking behind and other stuff of that nature.

>>871321

Maybe. But the specific kinds of stupidity we see in GS for example, not wearing a fucking helmet are on a different level. In any case, modern warfare is a different ballgame to medieval warfare.

>>871351

I see.

>some people think they crawled out of the earth, like worms

>Goblin Slayer himself thinks they came from the green moon, filled with hatred and jealousy

>their real origin is revealed in the opening's music video

Senshi was right all along! Only eating iron ration does horrible things to your body, worse than you could ever imagine.

It's people. Those green fucks are made out of people!

>>871373

>kills noble and his kid like a ninja, then leaves the scene.

You failed to mention he had to kill half the castle's guards to get out because they caught him with a kid poking out of the end of his blade.

>>871373

<kills noble and his kid like a ninja, then leaves the scene.

>Because he was too retarded to actually mask his face.

>>871239

He also expressed regret later in life that he made the orcs unconditionally morally irredeemable. I forget his exact reason, but it had to do with wanting to leave the door open for redemption from any level of evil. Which makes sense, because if you're impossibly gone for reasons beyond your control, are you even really a moral agent anymore? Orcs are more like physical expressions of cosmic evil than evil individuals.

>>869835

It's funny that it'll probably be only a one episode thing and that they didn't do it for the first episode.

>>870275

Poor fat gobbo.

>>871373

Would you want to ever put down your oversize greatsword with ghost touch and bypasses demonic damage reduction in a setting where finding good magical anything is rare as all hell, especially after all hell litterally broke loose just last week!?

>>871388

He was doing pretty good up until then.

>>871296

>>871320

>Bathing in mortal blood makes weapons weaker.

>Bathing in demonic blood makes weapons stronger.

More reason to keep it on him at all times.

>>871401

He had an escape plan and everything.

>>871351

>Swords break after used on 5 opponents.

Weapon degredation for GS game comfirmed.

>>870825

I'm a secondary. I'm sorry I don't know the power of ROCK.

>>871405

>no こ↑こ↓ in the first panel

Wasted opportunity.

>>870845

>If the local lord found out that his peasants were hiring mercenaries to saunter through his lands without his approval, he'd crack down on that pretty hard or at least force it to all go through his office.

I think he simply fleeces them just hard enough to make sure they can't afford hiring anybody more dangerous than a few porcelain nobodies or a lone autist in substandard gear.

>>870937

It's the golden age of anime for a reason.

>>870947

She's acting completely normal. It's your eyes that are lewd, anon.

>>871404

>Swords break after used on 5 opponents.

Not break - Become ineffective. You can clean them up, put a whet-stone, and so forth, but the sword is too covered in bits of person and dulled by the use to deliver clean kills. GS can't afford to half-ass a kill shot, since everything counts.

>>871494

>Cause im drop it if thats the case

It's been three threads and a week and a half since this started airing. How have you newfags still not bothered reading the rules?

>>871244

Oblivion fits, mostly due to how fucked level scaling is and at higher levels Goblins become one of if not the most dangerous enemy in the game.

>>871525

Better yet, uberjackals in ADOM.

>>871471

>but the sword is too covered in bits of person

That's not how blades work. As for chips of wood and the likes remaining pinched on the edge that's why you just take two seconds to swipe the blade clean with your hand of fold of your arm when that happens.

>and dulled

You can lob someone's arm off with a dull sword. Sharp metal is only required to deal with hardened leather or tough plant fiber armor. Against naked flesh even a sharp wooden edge will cut. In any case no metal hard enough to be wielded as a sword without the blade buckling by its own weight it going to be dulled by five cuts into flesh and bone. Sharpen a piece of soft ass fucking brass and see how much you can cut yourself before it dulls and you'll find out.

>>871554

>You can lob someone's arm off with a dull sword. Sharp metal is only required to deal with hardened leather or tough plant fiber armor. Against naked flesh even a sharp wooden edge will cut.

Eh, yes and no. You could cut through a limb with a slightly dull blade (and a spindly goblin one much easier than a human one), but it's much harder to do than if the blade was freshly sharpened and well maintained. Also hardened leather as armor doesn't exist, it's purely an invention of fantasy settings (granted, Goblin Slayer takes place in one). Realistically, if you couldn't afford mail, you'd be wearing thickly layered padding instead. The materials are far more abundant, and a gambeson is plenty capable of stopping a blade. Hell, even if the thing was completely blunt, he could still bludgeon the goblins to death with it. The degree of sharpness is more a question of whether the blade can cut through the bodies or cuts into them and is stopped... Which could be fatal when outnumbered. Still silly for it to become useless so quickly though.

>>871554

>Sharp metal is only required to deal with hardened leather or tough plant fiber armor.

So basically the kind of shit goblins routinely use?

I can't watch this on the principle that it is irrational that there would be enough engaging plot in an entire series dedicated to fighting a level 1 monster.

>>871753

They're not fighting a level one monster all the time. Plus, Goblins in this series are varied and not all piss weak, so quit shitposting.

>>871756

>criticizing a fair concern about stagnation due to lack of easily made variation in something as straightforward as "goblins" is shitposting

I bet you're one of those crossboarding niggers who latched onto this series to project your political views on it.

>>871759

You're a secondary, why should I care what you "bet"?

I wish other threads got filled as fast just for a single episode

>>871801

Make threads about better anime

>>871554

>>871558

Anons, the manga specifies that he throws the blade away not because of sharpness but because once it's backed in fat it slides on skin instead of cutting.

So he either has to clean it or get a new one (faster).

>>869665

>stop doing things that I don't like abloo bloo bloo

>>871771

To be fair, Tucker's Kobolds are actual bullshit within the context of the campaign and how Kobold's were fluffed out in AD&D. An engaging enemy, but the kind that begs the question "why are kobolds suddenly this organized and methodical?".

So depending on who you ask, they were the creation of 'that DM' rather than a skilled one.

>>871558

Yes, of course you want as sharp a blade as possible as it makes the cutting take less effort, the point was how it made no sense given the situation to complain about sharpness as even a completely unsharpened sword is lethal to the foes he was up against, and there is no way it had gotten anyway near that dull.

>hardened leather as armor doesn't exist, it's purely an invention of fantasy settings

Confirmed for knowing nothing about leather. Even fucking niggers in Africa developed the tech, vid related.

>>871661

>So basically the kind of shit none of the goblins were using?

Yes.

>>871807

>once it's backed in fat it slides on skin instead of cutting.

What in the fuck am I even reading???

>>871661

And everyone else.

>>871831

>"why are kobolds suddenly this organized and methodical?

Because fuck you, that's why? Justifying interesting encounter? Why other npc are so stupid? Because fuck you.

>>871833

>people discuss one phrase over and over and yet call GS autistic

>>871841

>people discuss one phrase

That was long ago. What we are discussing now are the increasingly bizarre excuses for the one phrase.

>>871841

>Justifying interesting encounter?

With dumb bullshit like that? Yeah, please. Making them more challanging is one thing but making them harder that all the higher level monsters (including demons) is something else. Why didn't any other monstger use tactics like that? It's not even like they are one single encounter. He just filled the upper levels of the dungeon with these magically replenishing fucks.

Well maybe I'm just bitter because I was so disappointed when I first read up on them. Like Pun Pun before, Kobolds are once again the most overhyped shitty monster.

>>871857

You are retarded.

>>871895

>It's literally to show how devastating goblins are and how people underestimate them.

It is not, they could've gotten away with a far milder scene, hell, a good writer could've gotten away with mere suggestions to get the exact same point across. The same argument could be made for the scene in Ulysses, even a better argument could be made for Ulysses, and both were just stinking melodrama that were only there to bait people into feeling something, without requiring any degree of writing prowess or effort.

It does seem to work as a marketing tool, too, but it's seemingly random. People threw a shit about GS, but not the other dozen-per-season cases of cheap rape and murder scenes.

>>871841

>Because fuck you, that's why?

Well that is literally the point of Tucker's Kobolds.

>Justifying interesting encounter? Why other npc are so stupid? Because fuck you.

Well if you're just running a murder hole and not paying attention to worldbuilding it isn't that important. However, for established settings there is at least the assumption that you will run creatures in ways that reflects their levels and any fluff associated with them. Not like it stops you from doing literally anything you want since tabletop isn't about enforcing everything RAW which is the case of Tucker's Kobolds.

But making one of the lower intelligence creatures sudden masterminds able to exploit any dungeon's traps to their benefit making them a larger threat than even demons is definitely something that wouldn't fly at my table. Then again I don't play D&D so I don't really have any fixed setting save what I make. GURPS master race reporting in

>>870942

Because if you drive away a stray goblin all your experience tells you is it's easy to fight a lone goblin, you can't learn anything about how goblins truly fight because you haven't seen it.

>>870803

>>870807

If they reproduce by culturally enriching women, why do they kill them right after?

>>871904

>What the fuck is this? Pig Squels? Sad music? God damnit, you see what those thing do to people?! I get that its supposed to be tramatic for the Priestess, but making the viewer feel sorry for the monsters"?

It's supposed to make you feel bad for Priestess losing her innocence. Personally, I'd have put no music in it and make her sobs, their squeals, and Goblin Slayer painting the walls red while dispassionately monologuing the only sounds in the scene.

>Then they hint; "Oh, well, maybe not all goblins are bad?"

What he says is that even if there were a good goblin somewhere it's pointless to even think about it because showing them mercy will only get you killed.

Later on there's a scene where a goblin child is spared by an adventurer and takes the opportunity to bash her to death with a rock.

>>871985

>responding to 3-thread-old baitpasta

>>870670

I do not think the females genetics are involved at all. It seems more like they pass on an infection that leeches off the female and comes out. I wouldn't be surprised if newly birthed goblins are the size of kittens. Just enough to get them going. Maybe the "sperm" contains additional nutrients to speed along the process.

>>871351

>If I die, I'll get looted by goblins, even though none of my armor fits goblins and my weapons are probably too big for normal goblins and too small for larger types.

>So I'll only use low quality equipment and make it more likely that I'll have an equipment failure and get murdered and looted by goblins.

>>872041

I've been struggling with this motivation myself. I can kind of have it make sense if you first assume that the goblins are skilled enough to rework armour that doesn't fit them, meaning Goblin Slayer doesn't want to leave high quality material behind for them to work with.

You also have to assume that goblins are so pathetic that weak materials for armour and weapons do no really matter but only the design. In other words that they are so weak they are never going to break your armour even if the materials are shit and so it all comes down to if you fuck up and let them swarm you and get some daggers in between the seams.

I don't know about the first one though and since there probably is full body chain mail that would leave no seam except where it's covered by the breast plate anyway I don't really know about the second either. Then you would probably have to factor in magic and shit in this world, so like a high quality helmet could probably have magic that stops weak shit like daggers from hitting you in the eye and so with that spot covered you would essentially be completely impervious to weak goblin attacks and so make sure he doesn't fail to complete his mission in life ...

Maybe it's not supposed to make sense and show that Goblin Slayer really has lost it?

>>872055

>high elf was a goblin all along

The problem is that Goblin Slayer plays be really fucking stupid double standards. So, like, everything plays by JRPG rules on the surface. Class systems, magic name attacks, enemy types, armor... all of it screams generic JRPG fantasy setting. And then the author wants us to take him seriously when he pulls stuff like "Ha ha, look at these named characters not wearing helmets so you can see their face. They are so easy to kill! lol, aren't they dumb for wearing such impractical armor?" Which is only smart if you are fucking shit tier pleb who takes the 'twist' at face value. What it REALLY does is create the plot hole in the authors own setting of "if this armor is so fucking impractical and shitty, how is there an entire manufacturing economy that mass produces this stuff such that all these adventurers keep getting their hands on it? And how has no one figured out that heads are a vulnerable part of the body before now if all of the enemies do nothing but cheap shot the skull?" Its like the entire world used to operate by different rules and, as soon as the story starts, suddenly all of the tropes stopped working and everything became gritty and realistic, and none of the characters have learned the new rules yet because last week this wasn't how the world worked. It just the most garbage, bottom tier of power fantasy: the MC is stronk not because he is anything special, but because the entire rest of the world has been written to be inexplicably and illogically inept.

>>872110

This a representation of a cosmic DnD game and you expect logic other that RNG rules all? No wonder you find it illogical.

There was nothing bullshit about Tucker's Kobolds. Kobolds exist in a world with all the same/more threats and far less security than the humanoid races, and yet they continue to exist. They have to be frighteningly lethal just to live, and given that they are canonically craven tunnel-fighters with low individual ability, having them go full VietCong on a party of adventurers makes complete sense.

I've gotten a great positive response from players by having fantasy races behave in combat as their worldview, ethos, and culture predicts they would. Goblins launch zergrush raids against undefended towns. Kobolds will mostly leave you alone except dispatching raiding parties, depending on antlike tunnel networks and booby traps to shred invaders before they even get into personal combat. Hobgoblins' 3.5 statblocks include the line "These creatures have a strong grasp of strategy and tactics and are capable of carrying out sophisticated battle plans. Under the leadership of a skilled strategist or tactician, their discipline can prove a deciding factor." And they're depicted with advanced personal arms including plate mail, kite shields, and elaborate swords. So they fight as cohesive units in regimented formations, somewhere between knights and Roman Legionnaires. Constructs are insanely single-minded and juggernaut through to their objectives with a fervor that could be called pathological if they had actual intelligence. Fighting Drow is like fighting a squad of spellcasting Batmans, hitting you while you sleep with debilitating tools (poison, alchemicals, etc) before closing for single-round incapacitation and then disappearing into the darkness before you've called for help. And when you get into the Int 20+ monsters like Mind Flayers, Beholders, and medium to high level Dragons, half the fight is just working around Xanatos Gambit after Xanatos Gambit after entire decoy (and rigged to self-destruct on breach) lair after proxy war ignited to distract you from their real plan.

I started doing this because one of my personal pet peeves is when every encounter behaves like a retarded stompy meat-cudgel monster, like everything's been lobotomized and had a water buffalo's brain surgically implanted instead. Players adore it. Especially when two NPC factions go off against eachother, because you can predict their tactics and then have a hand in affecting the outcome. How does a Hobgoblin phalanx formation deal with having overextended itself into a Kobold tunnel field? If the commander is shit, they probably panic and get separated, making them easy pickings. If the commander is good, they fall into a circular formation and slowly retreat with spears bristling like an urchin. Unless their retreat route leads them over a tunnel rigged to collapse with weight on it or an actual landmine.

Whatever a monster is doing, unless it's part of the setting that they're going extinct, it's working. Figure out how, and adjust their overall threat level as a species instead of a single creature's statblock. The entire premise of Goblin Slayer depends on having such a solid idea of what makes a hostile species work.

>>872230

Most autistic post ITT.

>>872234

>doing your job better as a DM to build the world more interestingly in a way the players enjoy is autism

You must be fun to play games with.

>>872253

That's actually kind of how it all got started for me. I got into tabletop games because of the wild creativity you could apply in problemsolving, as opposed to my prior timesink of video games. As I reached system mastery over the game I'd been introduced to, I got more and more creative with the game assets. But the more creative I tried to be, the clearer it was the guys running the games weren't. So I took note of all my pet peeves and said, 'okay, how can I make this fun?'. And now that's what I do.

Here's an example of one of my earliest designs. You take a common spell among Wizards, Explosive Runes, and cast it on a piece of adhesive-covered paper. Explosive Runes detonate when read, intended as a trap. But the blast is centered on the writing, not the reader. You cover the writing with a piece of waxen paper, and you can carry a ton of the resulting explosive tags. Explosive Runes inflict a very specific kind of damage called Force damage. It has properties like being able to hit ghostly enemies, but more importantly in this case, it ignores the material hardness of an object that would usually severely reduce the damage inflicted by an energy-based attack against an inanimate object.

Pull the adhesive off, stick it on door hinges and/or locks, retreat from the blast radius, and read the tag from afar. You've just invented breaching charges.

>good heavy metal starts

>good heavy metal ends 15 seconds later

>bad metal starts instead

Goddamn it.

>>872275

>reading scrolls from afar

Nice.

>>872412

Now I do. What a marvelous wonder.