One Piece Thread: Being Pudding is Suffering Edition Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 15:15:03 No. 800468
Chapter 896 is out
Remember to use jaimini instead of niggerstream.
We finally got our resolution to the Katakuri fight
Sanji torments Pudding
Out of fucking nowhere, a new heroic and amazing character shows up to help Luffy escape the mirror world
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 15:22:23 No. 800470
Who could this mysterious hero be?
The Katakuri fight had a good ending, in the end, I'm glad it wasn't Luffy whooping ass like he has been most of the timeskip. He only survived this fight because of Katakuri's honour and his freakish stamina letting him get back up. He was totally outskilled.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 15:38:36 No. 800475
>>800470
The double KO was about the best outcome we could expect. Katakuri dropping Luffy, but Luffy getting taken away by Nazoms would have been fine, but Katakuri's last line is pretty damned great and really does give his character all the depth he needs to be one of the best villains in the series. At the end of it, all, Luffy is fucking wrecked and can barely move, let alone fight. So, I'm hoping these next few chapters are all about Sanji and some of the other side characters getting a chance to shine before the Germa shows up and saves the day.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 16:48:30 No. 800497
The hat was such a nice touch. What a display of manly spirit.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 16:50:56 No. 800498
I like how Oda basically confirmed Linlin will be a returning villain later on
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 17:03:53 No. 800499
>>800468
Being an extreme tsundere around oblivious shonen protagonists is always suffering.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 17:46:41 No. 800517
Is Oda still having that consistency problem where he mortally wounds his characters and then says they're okay in the span of 3-4 chapters? I don't mind if he doesn't want to kill anyone but for the love of everything that is holy stop giving them mortal wounds if you don't plan to kill them.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 18:17:12 No. 800526
>>800517
That could be said for every battle shounen ever.
>gut wound?
<put some bandages on it
>basket ball sized hole in the torso?
<whatever, I don't need no spine to keep standing
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 18:19:51 No. 800529
>>800517
Luffy's been doing that shit for the entire series, though. Zoro took enough pain from Kuma to kill a lesser man, but he lived. The basic rule is that nothing kills anyone unless there's a funeral scene or it's a flashback.. and even that is subject to exceptions Fucking Sabo surviving a canon barrage in a rowboat.
But after all of this, I think Luffy might be side-lined for the next arc. Chopper will have to fix him up, to actually remind the audience that he's the ship's doctor. Sanji will have to cook Luffy the most amazing meaty meal ever, to help him recover. Everyone else will go on wild adventures in Wano where they'll get their chance to shine while we get humorous cut aways to Luffy being a pest while Nami, Chopper, and Brook try to keep him from reopening his wounds.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 18:24:53 No. 800535
>>800529
It's pretty much a given Luffy is gonna die at the end of the series but I don't really care about him being immortal until the plot demands it. It's the side-characters and enemies getting the 'but they're okay now' treatment that bothers me the most.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 18:31:59 No. 800537
>>800535
When they introduced Luffy's Gears, they straight up said that using that technique would shorten his lifespan... and then he went on to use it constantly, for every single fight, in increasingly more severe ways. Either Oda mispoke or they translated it wrong, or by the time they start approaching Raftel, Luffy is going to start showing signs that he knows he's dying, like Roger did.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:11:57 No. 800549
>>800537
Or Law is going to do the eternal youth surgery to Luffy.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:18:28 No. 800551
>>800537
>>800549
I think Law will offer to do so but Luffy will outright refuse.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:22:25 No. 800552
>>800551
Or... maybe he already did the surgery when Luffy was rescued after Ash's death?
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:22:52 No. 800553
>>800537
>or by the time they start approaching Raftel, Luffy is going to start showing signs that he knows he's dying, like Roger did.
This would be the most interesting way to do things.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:33:51 No. 800556
After seeing a shitty youtube theory video I began to feel sympathy for Linlin.
What if Big Mom is just a retarded addicted womachild needing help?
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:35:10 No. 800557
>>800552
>the true power of the gomu gomu no mi is that is keeps the eater alive eternally, because it keeps all their vital organs springy and thus healthy, allowing them to bounce back from any non-lethal injury or illness
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:36:58 No. 800559
>>800557
Well, Luffy can basically heal any illness and disease by eating, so maybe here is something related to that?
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 19:43:57 No. 800565
>>800537
Luffy's pretty generous in spending his lifespan.
Remember his hormone therapy that would shorten his life by 10 years?
Luffy's gonna die an early death.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 20:04:40 No. 800570
>>800552
Shouldn't Law be dead then? That surgery is supposed to take the life of the Op-Op Fruit's user as compensation.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 20:06:20 No. 800571
>>800565
Completely forgot about that. So, we've got life burning Gear powers, hormone therapy from Ivankov that saved him from the deadliest poison in the world, surgery by Law to save him from being punched in the chest by Akainu... I guess you could also could the time he was nearly frozen to death by Aokiji. Now getting beaten nearly to death by a stronger opponent.
The life of the Pirate King ain't easy.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 20:09:17 No. 800572
>>800570
Oh, I thought Law dying after doing the surgery was Don Flamingo saying he was going to kill him anyway but he would grant him any desire besides that.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 22:52:33 No. 800618
>>800537
>>800571
Gear powers had negative side effects only at the beginning, I don't remember where I read it but I think it's confirmed now that Luffy is used to them so after time skip they don't have any side effects.
After all, he used to shrink when he used gear third in the past but he is almoat always in gear second now and uses third very casually. Even in Gear fourth his only problem is running out of haki.
I think this is also an important point, other than gear fourth variants what more things can Luffy do next? I think gear fourth and haki is all he developed in time skip and since he conquered all the capabilities of his fruit he will awaken it and develop from there next.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 22:54:46 No. 800619
>>800618
I bet you anything he awakens it against Kaidou.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 23:35:11 No. 800625
>Inb4 Wano's Sakura trees are the one mentioned by Hiluluk's story and thus end up in some sort of development for Chopper.
Who am I kidding, Chopper is doomed to be the manga's pet and comic relief.
Anonymous 03/02/18 (Fri) 23:46:05 No. 800628
>>800625
>character developement never ever
I despise the little shit so much, nowadays. Wasn't always like that.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 00:12:29 No. 800645
>>800625
>>800628
It's a shame too, because of all the timeskip powerups, Chopper's was just his monster form, which is boring, and a couple more transformation points... But all he does these days is use shitty, ugly Kungfu Point for everything. He's supposed to be the goddamned Doctor and he's not even the one fixing up his crewmates.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 00:39:27 No. 800659
>>800619
I’ll be happy if we get a return of Zoro’s Nine Sword Style. It is a land of samurai so Oda would be remiss if he didn’t spotlight the Resident swordsmen, I.e. Zoro and Law.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 02:39:45 No. 800679
>>800497
It was a great bit of respect
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 03:41:31 No. 800694
I'm shocked that Luffy recognized Pekoms instead of going "SUGEEEE WHO'S THAT COOL HERO"
Guess Katakuri beat up Luffy so badly that his brain got rewired into working properly.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 04:44:39 No. 800711
>>800645
Who knows, maybe Carrot might teach Chopper how to do that moon transformation, if it's specifically not a mink tribe thing. I mean, he's animal enough for it, right?
>>800694
I actually thought the same thing. Luffy must really be fucked up.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 07:09:26 No. 800739
>>800711
>Chopper starts flying around in Kung Fu point and zapping people
>>800694
His observation haki has gotten so powerful he can see through such elaborate disguises.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 09:30:13 No. 800759
>>800694
What if Luffy is only pretending to be retarded the whole time and it's becoming harder to keep the masquerade going when he's at his limit?
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 11:28:54 No. 800775
>>800759
He's a lot smarter than he let's on.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 11:42:30 No. 800779
>>800775
No.
Stop justifying asspulling in manga. Even though this one is one of the fan favorites just dont give in to bullshit like this.
He should of lost this fight. He should of gotten destroyed but he got plot armored to ever living fuck. Its getting tot he point where luffy has hit a wall and unless they want to time skip again they will need to do something drastic and smart in order to make it to where luffy is actually worth a shit. He hit the curve's cliff. He could barely beat a yonko's number 2. They are now saying that he will have to come back to fight her again. Halfway point my ass. Luffy is just pulling out all sorts of special moves like a child would. "Oh yea well ill just....USE AN EVEN BETTER GEAR THAT I HAVENT EVER SHOWN BEFORE". Yea thats asspull to the extreme. Luffy has zero skill while the ones who actually do are left to rot. I dont even like usopp. I fucking hate him but I would prefer if he actually was one of the more major fighters because he could be doing a lot of neat things but he gets relegated to being a faggot.
I hate to say it but this manga is sputtering. Its still readable and it keeps things interesting but as far as main characters are concerned its just sloppy.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 14:04:15 No. 800809
>>800779
I know it's been a while because, well, the series has been running for over 20 years, but Luffy has never been as stupid as the gag panels would make you assume. He's stubborn and impulsive, but he's not a retard.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 15:11:05 No. 800825
It seems like Luffy could've ended this fight sooner and was letting it drag on to train his observation haki. Snake Man is something future sight can't easily counter. I was kind of hoping there'd be an extra factor of flustering Katakuri, but if that was ever the plan then it definitely changed. The fight was a more noble duel by the end.
Still weird to think Katakuri is meant to be late forties, he aged ridiculously well.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 18:54:35 No. 800884
>>800779
>AN EVEN BETTER GEAR THAT I HAVEN'T EVER SHOWN BEFORE
Gear fourth's debut was 400+ chapters after gear third's, considering he went through a 2-year training period there it would have been dumb if he didn't create gear fourth.
Snakeman worked better than Boundman against Katakuri because it hits more reliably, comparing the impact of it vs. Boundman it's clearly physically weaker. Boundman is for tankier opponents, Snakeman is for opponents Boundman isn't capable of consistently hitting.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 19:04:27 No. 800887
>>800884
Gear 5th better be pants-on-head retarded in the looks departement, or I'll fly over there and slap Oda's shit.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 19:42:33 No. 800910
>>800887
He turns into a noodle, and becomes the balloon animals, for Gear 5th.
Anonymous 03/03/18 (Sat) 22:51:47 No. 801062
>>800910
It's gonna be alongside the awakening. He'll "grow" extra arms and start slinging all his attacks at the same time.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 01:22:08 No. 801148
>>801062
>Skin balloon giving Luffy a large layer of thin malleable skin in the vein of Katakuri for multiple limbs, advanced dodging, unique abilities by taking certain shapes, and thousand mile range
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 01:27:38 No. 801151
>>800884
>Boundman it's clearly physically weaker.
What do you mean? Only Boundman did manage to match Kaku Mochi fists clashing. Snakeman couldn't.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 01:30:58 No. 801154
>>801151
That's what I said.
>Comparing the impact of IT vs. Boundman
>IT'S clearly physically weaker.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 01:36:08 No. 801157
>>801154
My bad, totally speedread that vs.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 01:42:55 No. 801159
>>800884
>>800887
Luffy can still sharpen his Haki a bit further and his rubber body probably still has a few more gimmicks in it, beyond inflating really big and punching fast from a distance. The next big step is obviously going to be awakening, which we can only assume is going to involve Luffy turning everything around him into rubber and bouncing around at light speed, Bellamy-style. I can't really imagine what else he might do with awakening, but Oda might surprise us.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 02:21:25 No. 801183
>>801159
I would love to see a throwback page to the Bellamy fight but with Luffy in Bellamy's place.
Would be pretty funny if he got hit in the head same way he hit Bellamy too.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 03:39:45 No. 801233
>>801183
He's gotten Bellamy twice now. Is Bellamy gonna get him back?
Prediction for Wano: Sanji gets new swords and we finally learn if he's lost an eye or CONCEALING HIS TRUE POWER.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 04:33:19 No. 801245
>>801233
>Sanji
Zoro. I do this every time!
Sanji will get new cooking utensils .
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 16:52:14 No. 801412
>>801233
I think he's gonna go with concealing true power. It's the Chuni thing to do. And Zoro's a Chuni magnet.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 17:05:17 No. 801415
>>801233
I'm hoping he's actually missing that eye. Would have prefered and eyepatch to make him extra piratey, but unless Oda has a really good explanation, Zoro better not be concealing a magical "hawkeye" under there, or some shit.
Anonymous 03/04/18 (Sun) 17:25:28 No. 801423
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 13:05:48 No. 801731
>>801415
The one thing that really bugs me about the timeskip is how the characters aren't ever shown explaining to each other what the fuck they were up to. I guess we've got to assume they did during downtime, but still.
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 19:11:52 No. 801795
>>801731
They're all stoic about it. The only one who'd want to brag about it is Usopp and he hasn't much to brag for.
> So I was stranded on this island with all this delicious food
> I binged until I became a lardass
> Then I did a lot of exercise to lose weight and ended up gaining minor muscles
> I also pocketed many seeds, all of them with wacky powers, most of them useless.
Zoro basically did the same thing he does everytime he has free time, train. The only difference was he had a good teacher to guide him. Talking about how he groveled to Mihawk is probably too embarrassing for him anyways.
Sanji won't want to talk about it. He spent two years being chased by trannies and then even doned the dressing code for a moment.
Nami and Chopper had uninteresting adventures without anything to hsow tfor it.
Robin just spent some times with the Revolutionaries.
I could not care less about Franky.
And no one is tactless enough to ask Luffy, to avoid touching the subject of Marineford and Ace's death.
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 19:25:12 No. 801798
>>801795
Do you think Zoro had to polish m'Hawks "blade"?
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 20:53:02 No. 801834
>>801798
> swordsmen
> letting someone else touch their blades
If you're going to shitpost at least try.
Anonymous 03/05/18 (Mon) 23:30:52 No. 801860
>>800625
>Who am I kidding, Chopper is doomed to be the manga's pet and comic relief.
I've always figured that the reason Chopper's bounty was so low was because someone with a lot of power and influence in the World Government was manipulating it.
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 01:34:50 No. 801899
>>801795
Frank studied Vegapunk's old research if I recall correctly. I badly want to know what the fuck he learned besides how to build mechs and make himself big as fuck.
Otherwise, I think the main reason that they haven't had the chance to just sit down and talk is because they keep doing shit.
>Hey we're finally back together after 2 years like we promised!
>Oh shit Pacifistas and Navy!
>Oh shit fishman island!
>Oh shit Hordy Jones!
>Oh shit Luffy just picked a fight with a Yonkou!
>Oh shit New World weather!
>Oh Shit that island is on fire!
And so on all the way up until this point, where we're still dealing with "Oh shit Sanji just left the crew"
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 15:35:00 No. 802038
Anonymous 03/06/18 (Tue) 17:52:42 No. 802070
>>802038
>The idiot from HxH thread is so mad that now he's going around other threads shitposting about his insecurities.
The only faggot here is you.
Anonymous 03/07/18 (Wed) 00:50:27 No. 802167
Am I the only one who thinks Pudding's crying face is cute?
Anonymous 03/07/18 (Wed) 02:49:17 No. 802193
>>801899
They have been hit with an onslaught of shit. Do we have a time-scale for how long they've been in the new world for?
Anonymous 03/07/18 (Wed) 03:46:36 No. 802200
>>802193
It's hard to say, without reskimming several hundred chapters and counting all periods of sleep and directly stated changes in time. Like, we know that Luffy and Katakuri have been fighting for several hours and that they've been in Totland for a few days, but it's unclear how long it took for them to get from Fishman island to Punk Hazard, and then from Punk Hazard to Dressrosa and Zou. Supposedly, the world of One Piece is meant to be much larger than Earth, but sometimes it seems like the distance between these major islands, whose distance spans half the globe, feels like they are crossed in only a few days. For reference crossing the ocean on Earth, in Columbus's era, took 2 months just to go from Europe to America (over 4000 miles)
Anonymous 03/07/18 (Wed) 07:09:49 No. 802234
>>800535
I think that's the point, remember at Sabaody when Luffy yelled at Ussop for asking Rayleigh about One Piece? As dumb as Luffy is he probably understands that he might not even live to see Raftel, he just wants to have gone on the journey of his lifetime.
Anonymous 03/07/18 (Wed) 07:36:48 No. 802236
>>801798
No, that’s what Perona was there for.
Anonymous 03/08/18 (Thu) 01:14:37 No. 802418
>>802167
Am I the only one imagining her servicing your meat with those 3 eyes looking up at you?
Anonymous 03/08/18 (Thu) 02:04:05 No. 802426
>>802200
We could probably take into account superior tech and navigational skills too, plus they generally know exactly where they're going so those factors can cut down travel time quite a bit. I wonder if Oda has ever been asked or addressed this in the SBS. I know I wouldn't want to answer something like that because it could very easily introduce too many annoying questions.
Then we've got assholes like Blackbeard who can cross huge distances in a matter of days. It'd be a real headache trying to give measurements.
Anonymous 03/08/18 (Thu) 05:39:07 No. 802468
>>802426
Oda is notorious for dodging questions about exact measurements. He’ll usually play the “How far can Luffy stretch?” “About ten abobos, divided by the square root of ishkabibble.” Game.
Anonymous 03/08/18 (Thu) 22:30:28 No. 802640
CHAPTER 897 SPOILERS!
Here for some Fair and Balanced coverage, I can't fucking wait to read this chapter, holy shit!
We're introduced to another member of the Giant's crew on the cover story. Moving on...
Pekoms explains how the Sulong transformation works, BUCKLE UP GANG, WE'RE GETTING SULONG PEKOMS. He explains that he never mastered calming down from a Sulong state, that only Pedro could bring him back. To pay him back, his plan is to jump through the mirror, transform and go apeshit. Apparently that's why he wears the sunglasses. He goes through, discards his glasses and uses Brulee as a human shield and goes to town on BM's forces.
He's still overwhelmed in short order and pretty soon Luffy is running on foot while the others are dogpiling Pekoms and trying to stop his transformation and kill him. Luffy is about to take a hit when Sanji busts in, saves him and skywalks away.
That doesn't last either though and before long Sanji is going to take a hit when suddenly BIG MOM'S FLEET OF SHIPS BLOW UP. It's GERMA 66. They show up and start wrecking BM's entire army. Sanji asks why they'd save them, Niji simply responds "We wanted to give them one HELL of a surprise!" Chapter end, no break next week.
Anonymous 03/08/18 (Thu) 22:38:04 No. 802644
>>802640
> no break next week
>read this as break next week
>panic
Fucking Oda breaks man.
Anonymous 03/09/18 (Fri) 08:34:14 No. 802714
It amuses me to no end that in retrospect this was supposed to be a stealth arc. This was Luffy trying to sneak in and out quietly.
How does Big Mom even remain a Yonko after this? Aside from her, everything else she has is basically destroyed. Her three strongest commanders have all been defeated, her fleet has been destroyed, one of her most powerful weapons crafted from her own soul has been stolen, her Poneglyph has been pirated, her Mother Caramel portrait has been destroyed, her entire fleet is in shambles, her alliance with Germa has instead turned into open war, several of her allies (Pekoms, Jimbe, Bege) and their associated crews have defected technically along with three of her daughters, her entire information network collapsed, virtually her entire army has been defeated and the best they can hope for at this point is that she herself will only pass out from bliss when she eats the cake, instead of doing what she usually does and eating the entire island along with it. (Didn't Katakuri predict the destruction of the island?)
And to top it all off, none of this shit is getting covered up. She invited the entire underworld along with Morgans who's a direct line to the news and Stussy who's going to report this shit straight to the World Government.
Nothing is going to stop the admirals or Blackbeard or someone from swooping in and mopping up whatever's left.
Anonymous 03/09/18 (Fri) 09:55:05 No. 802720
>>802714
There are always repercussions for upsetting the balance between Yonko/Warlord/Marine. Just look how much Whitebeard’s death destabilized the world. You take out Big Mom and you invite people like Blackbeard and Kaidou to move right on in. But then again, I don’t doubt that if Akainu thought he could get away with it he would shit absolute justice all over Tottoland. But the Marines aren’t at 100%, Fujitora has effectively been banished so the only admirals on call are Kizaru and Ryokyogu and if Marineford is anything to go by you need all three admirals plus the fleet admiral to square off against a Yonko.
Anonymous 03/09/18 (Fri) 11:29:05 No. 802725
>>802714
The entire stealth section was handled masterfully by Brook.
Has anyone even noticed he plundered the fucking poneglyph right under everyone's nose? EVEN THOUGH HE HAS NO NOSE YOHOHOHO
Anonymous 03/09/18 (Fri) 23:47:16 No. 802889
>>802714
This arc completely went against all expectations and turned out to be something completely different.
Instead of Enies Lobby with Sanji and the power rangers we got Luffy damaging a yonko crew, beating two of its commanders including their strongest, Brook overshadowing Sanji, waifus, best antagonist, extreme tsundere, cooking show, Bege defying expectations and overshadowing Sanji, two tear-jerking deaths, Jinbe overshadowing Sanji, Carrot actually doing something cool, CP0, BIG NEWS, rooting for Germa 66 kind of, husbandos, arguably best fight, donuts, a lot of running away, mink wank, Smoothie wins by doing absolutely nothing, Judge bawling, and of course Gangster Gastino's debut.
What's especially hilarious is most people expected it to be a short arc like Zou.
The "side-journey" ended up being one of the best arcs in OP.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 00:34:14 No. 802899
>>802720
> if Marineford is anything to go by you need all three admirals plus the fleet admiral to square off against a Yonko.
Marineford was one sided, no important marine fighter was knocked out and all adimirals besides Akainu were in near perfect condition.
Ryokyogu + the top vice adimirals should be enough to beat current Tottoland.
There's also the CP0, while they aren't under direct marine command it was indicated that they are close to a yonkou fleet in power (Blackbeard did run away from them).
The WG can theoretically order the CP0 to remove BIg Mom, and they would likely succeed.
Anonymous 03/10/18 (Sat) 00:44:28 No. 802901
>>802889
It's been a hell of a ride.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 00:55:23 No. 803288
>>800498
How?
>>800825
Well he is half fishman, his triplet brothers look pretty old.
>>802714
Still betting that blackbeard sweeps in at the end and kills big mom as he said she's the only one he thinks can beat him.
That would leave katakuri free to do his own thing.
Post last edited at 03/11/18 (Sun) 08:34:46
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 01:16:41 No. 803290
>>803288
>Well he is half fishman
Is he?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 01:56:38 No. 803295
>>803288
>Still betting that blackbeard sweeps in at the end and kills big mom as he said she's the only one he thinks can beat him.
There's no way Blackbeard is not going to end up with some sort of Hell power that backfires on him. The guy hates pain and knows Big Mom would one shot him because he's terrified of death. He's got his login of darkness and paramecia of earthquakes, the anon that suggested he gain the ancient zoan of Cerberus had a great idea there.
>Triple headed
>Hellfire
>A power that lets him open the gates of Hell and unleash whatever's inside
>If you go through the gates and they close, you're robbed of your fruit power and trapped there
>Blackbeard is defeated by sending him through the gates and forcing them shut
>Gets robbed of his power and dragged into Hell by all the people he wronged
>>803288
Fishman hasn't been confirmed, has it? I'd believe it, but doesn't that mean his brothers must have different fathers? Then again, that's not impossible.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 02:38:23 No. 803300
>>803290
He's not, he's a triplet and his brothers look normal. They used to call him an eel because of his fucked teeth but that's just bullying. If the father of Big mom's 3rd child was a fishman that'd be pretty fucking weird.
Big mom's first few kids except Daifuku all have eyes similar to Streussen, so maybe he's the father.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 05:25:44 No. 803333
>>803300
If he were a fishman he'd probably have gone into that berserker state too.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 17:27:08 No. 803446
I've kind of got the urge to re-read the series from the beginning. Has there been anything in the way of high quality scans or official full color re-productions, like they've done with Jojo?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 19:38:36 No. 803499
>>802899
>CP0
Crap, I forgot about them.
Lucci is part of that now, right?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 21:07:31 No. 803530
>>803446
This is confusing as fuck.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 21:13:48 No. 803535
>>803446
What's the point crossing the grand line then? Where the fuck is the new world?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 21:14:56 No. 803536
>>803499
I think that's only in the Gold movie, which isn't canon.
I wish Tesoro was canon.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 21:39:10 No. 803548
>>803535
New world is the Grand Line on the opposite side of the Red Line, bordered by the North and West Blue oceans... How do you not understand how this works by now?
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 21:39:36 No. 803549
>>803535
I've got to assume it's unofficial, or at least not something Oda cares about. Otherwise yeah, how the fuck does it work.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 22:17:50 No. 803552
>>803549
No, it's well established how the oceans in OP work. All 4 oceans connect to reverse mountain, which spits every ship out at the beginning of The Grand Line, known as Paradise to experienced sailors. The Grand Line is normally inaccessible otherwise because of the Calm Belt that borders it, where there is no wind, no current, and it's the miles-wide nesting ground for the biggest, nastiest sea kings in the ocean.
From there, after traversing Paradise and reaching the end, you either have your ship lifted over the Red Line (which is a massive sheer cliff) and pass through Marie Jois, the World Government capital city, or you get your ship coated and you sail underneath the Red Line and through Fishman Island, to reach the second half of the Grand Line, known as the new world... likewise bordered by the Calm Belt.
It hasn't been made clear yet how one re-enters the other half of the world from the opposite side of Reverse Mountain, though certain pirates like Shanks apparently do it every so often.
Anonymous 03/11/18 (Sun) 22:37:04 No. 803555
>>803552
My bad. After making that post and looking at the picture some more, I started to make sense of it. Thanks for providing further clarification, anon.
The other half of the world is the most mysterious part like you said. Also remembered that the WG has such control thanks to their machine-powered seastone coated ships.
Anonymous 03/12/18 (Mon) 14:23:13 No. 803742
>>803736
Was lobster dude trying to give himself a blow job or why does he have glass shards in his back?
Anonymous 03/12/18 (Mon) 17:32:43 No. 803778
Something that doesnt make sense is that big mom wants diversity and all the races to live in whole cake island but why then was katakuri and pudding bullied for their appearance? even big mom thinks pudding is creepy
Anonymous 03/12/18 (Mon) 20:32:31 No. 803811
>>803778
I think the implication has always been that Big Mom is a massive hypocrite. It’s established that she doesn’t like giants. At least two of her children had to put up with bullying because of their appearance. I’ve heard a theory that because there is no racial bias in Totland that people singled out Katakuri and Pudding because they had easily identifiable characteristics, and just used that as a basis to make fun of them. Not to mention that she funnels money to a shady scientist so he can run human experiments to make her dream a reality, regardless of what lengths are gone too. Remember, she wasn’t angry about Caesar’s methods, only that he wasn’t delivering what she wanted.
Anonymous 03/12/18 (Mon) 22:13:05 No. 803836
>>802714
>Aside from her, everything else she has is basically destroyed. Her three strongest commanders have all been defeated, her fleet has been destroyed, one of her most powerful weapons crafted from her own soul has been stolen, her Poneglyph has been pirated, her Mother Caramel portrait has been destroyed, her entire fleet is in shambles, her alliance with Germa has instead turned into open war, several of her allies (Pekoms, Jimbe, Bege) and their associated crews have defected technically along with three of her daughters, her entire information network collapsed, virtually her entire army has been defeated and the best they can hope for at this point is that she herself will only pass out from bliss when she eats the cake
Big Mom Pirates confirmed for suicide watch
Anonymous 03/12/18 (Mon) 22:35:49 No. 803839
>>803778
She doesn't care about diversity in the way you think. She's just trying to emulate Mother Carmel's diverse orphanage from what she remembers but she doesn't understand the meaning behind it, and Carmel was running an orphanage with kids of all races only to sell them to slavery and get rich anyways.
There's no meaning behind it, she doesn't give a fuck about racism. The only reason is "This is how Mother Carmel would've liked it"
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 00:44:57 No. 803884
Is Big Mom's character a criticism of SJW culture in the west?
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 01:24:09 No. 803890
>>803884
I don't think so, she's just a stupid asshole and her behaviour happens to align with a lot of stupid assholes in the west.
Actually, has anyone updated the musician comparison chart? Curious to know if she's got any similarities to anyone. Looking forward to seeing her final, starved form.
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 03:28:22 No. 803917
>>803884
Oda doesn't work that way. In fact, he probably knew exactly what Big Mom's deal would be 20 years ago when he planned out the whole story.
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 06:16:40 No. 803941
>>803884
Yes, I've said it before. She most definitely is a criticism of modern feminists. He probably directly created her as a response to feminists complaining all his women were weak and gorgeous. He's surprisingly shrewd. Probably dated some crazy girls after coming into money.
Big Mom and Baby 5 are both suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. BPD is brought on in early childhood as a result of an episode of abandonment from an authority figure, usually a parent. As a result they stop emotionally developing at that age. They grow up to have the intelligence of an adult, but the emotional mastery of a toddler, prone to violent moodswings and outbursts, binging, and promiscuity. Not every Borderline is an SJW, but a shocking number of SJWs are borderlines.
Baby 5's personality problems stem from her mother taking her to a top of a mountain, telling her she's worthless and abandoning her there. Subsequently Baby 5 does anyone anyone asks her to and will marry any man who expresses the slightest interest in her.
Big Mom was abandoned on an island by her parents. She obliviously ate her entire adopted family (who were also just using her) and grew up believing they simply abandoned her too. She's obsessed with diversity, but like any SJW has no idea why. No real argument for why it's good. She just asserts she needs to have children with every race on Earth, that she wants a giant multicultural family for the ultimate endgoal of having a fucking tea party with them. She has unnaturally colored hair and she is the epitome of binging and excess. She doesn't actually care about any of the men she sleeps with, she doesn't care about any of her children, she doesn't care about how hideously ugly or misshapen her children may end up as a result of her reckless miscegenation. Her power is literally to feed on and drain people's souls, and concealing the dark nature of what she's doing, she stuffs their souls into inanimate objects which temporarily take on features like Disney cartooons, even singing macabre dance numbers with her. If you've ever spoken to a tumblr girl with BPD, they're all obsessed with Disney and Ghibli.
Before you suggest I'm reading too much into this, don't forget Japan was allied with Germany, and before his editors made him change it Whitebeard's symbol was a swastika, and other perhaps than Shanks he's been portrayed by far as the most benevolent of the Yonko. You could carry the analogy even further. Germa 66 are scientists obsessed with eugenics who dress like a combination of sentai characters and Nazis. We've been given endless reason to hate them and explicitly shown their evil actions and that Sanji's brothers have no positive emotions. Yet right now they're swooping in to kick Big Mom's army's ass. I'm not on board with the aut-right, but could the message be that when faced with an evil such as what Big Mom represents, even Germa 66 aren't that bad?
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 11:31:48 No. 803964
>>803941
Great post. I don't know if Oda consciously intended it or it was just some instinctual muse, but he hit the nail on the head just the same.
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 13:17:20 No. 803974
>>803941
>Probably dated some crazy girls after coming into money.
he married one
>Whitebeard's symbol was a swastika
The NSDAP didn't invent the swastika, this has been a symbol in eastern cultures for literal millennia.
Great post besides this.
Anonymous 03/13/18 (Tue) 14:44:39 No. 803986
>>803974
Do we know anything about Oda's wife? Oda is the one who came onto her when he couldnt resist her dressed as Nami and she is cute
Anonymous 03/14/18 (Wed) 23:29:58 No. 804362
>>803917
He didn't plan every plot point and character in a 1000+ chapter story before starting it. He probably had a vague idea of the 4 Kings his Sun Wukong inspired character would fight, but he didn't have their designs or back stories set in stone.
Anonymous 03/14/18 (Wed) 23:49:43 No. 804366
>>803917
>>804362
everything we've seen before what we knew what we know now about kaido and big mom tells me that oda didnt really plan big mom and kaido. the silhouette of kaido is completely different from the reveal and even when luffy was talking to big mom over the phone her appearance was completely different from what it is now
Anonymous 03/15/18 (Thu) 20:46:44 No. 804542
>>803552
>It hasn't been made clear yet how one re-enters the other half of the world from the opposite side of Reverse Mountain, though certain pirates like Shanks apparently do it every so often.
You can argue that much like the Marines utilize Sea stone coatings to the underside of their ships to traverse the Calm Belts, given the fact that even a guy like Don Krieg could eke his way through the CB back to the East Blue, a Yonko crew can easily traverse the calm belt from the North/West Blue to enter the New World and vice verse. From there you can just take reverse mountain back to the top and ride it back down to the Grand Line again.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 10:34:31 No. 804735
>>804366
He has changed designs many times before like this too.
The initial silhouette of Moria looked nothing like the real thing, and the whole of the Shichibukai were just generic placeholders when we first heard of them.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 11:05:33 No. 804742
>>804735
Oda literally made up and designed all the supernovas just before the chapter they were introduced in Sabaody, he talks about it somewhere.
Shichibukai also weren't supposed to be as important as they were, he had an idea of how the story would go and the ending and thought it would take 5 years but as the world expanded we're at 20 years with estimated %70 of the story done.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 11:17:48 No. 804746
The latest chapter is out!
Sanji's family are ridiculously overpowered. Could Sanji beat any of them?
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 12:22:12 No. 804757
>>804746
Germa 66 ain't nothing to fuck with, it seems. The chapter title was kinda misleading. For now.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 14:34:24 No. 804797
>>804766
Lying kike there is no break announcement on the chapter
holy shit Germa are insane, I'm convinced they could give any Yonkou a good whooping if they went all out
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 17:35:16 No. 804871
>>804746
We knew they were genetically engineered, but them turning out to be cyborgs, and really dangerous ones at that, is a huge surprise. The Germa Kingdom is insane.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 19:51:50 No. 804943
So are they doing this because they now care about Sanji, could it have been a last wish of Judge "Protect your brother~!" or is this purely to humiliate Big Mom for betraying them?
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 19:56:47 No. 804946
>>804943
They owe Sanji for saving them, and they want revenge against Big Mom.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 19:57:53 No. 804947
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 20:00:39 No. 804949
>>804943
I think they are doing it under Daddy Germa's orders. Sanji's brothers don't have emotions. They are monsters in every sense of the words. Abominations of science. His sister seems like she's alright, but she's a different case. Now Judge, on the other hand, was betrayed by Big Mom, made to face his biggest mistake as a Father and leader, whom he dehumanized worse than his monster children, and had his future aspirations crushed. The Germa don't feel emotions or a need for revenge, I'd imagine. They laughed when they realized they were put in a situation where they were just going to die.
Likely under Judge's order, now that he knows Big Mom wants to kill him, they were told to go wild. Big Mom's family wants to kill them anyways and steal their tech, so now he has to fight his way out, and while he's at it, he may as well spite her by letting his son and their friends get out alive which is rubbing salt in Big Mom's wounds. In some way, he could be doing this as a favor to Sanji for saving his life even when he could have let them die. As for the Germa siblings, they probably weren't lying when they say they just want to fuck some shit up. Being the best at kicking ass is likely the only thing that gives them an emotional reaction resembling happiness.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 23:20:56 No. 804989
>>804949
Good assessment, there's also Judge's eyebrows which we have yet to see. I suspect that they're normal and the swirls are a trait from Sanji's mother.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 23:23:41 No. 804992
Also, wasn't the cyborg nature of the Germa's from the womb? I recall a chapter where it stated how Sanji's metal skin hadn't developed. I was kind of hoping it'd reveal that he did still benefit from it, but that'd devalue his whole character if he didn't earn his strength.
Anonymous 03/16/18 (Fri) 23:28:27 No. 804993
>>804992
Sanji has a half-assed partial metal skin on just his legs and thats how he doesn't burn himself to shit with Diable Jambe
Anonymous 03/17/18 (Sat) 00:07:39 No. 805007
>>804992
I'm trying to find the chapter, but I recall one of the brothers getting kicked in the face and it resulting in metal-like denting that was "healed" through tools and machinery.
Anonymous 03/17/18 (Sat) 07:19:44 No. 805100
>>804993
Is your dad an assistant of Oda?
Anonymous 03/18/18 (Sun) 00:55:53 No. 805321
>>804949
I was pretty shocked that the germa kids weren't total pushovers and made to seem like they were stronger than Sanji as I really don't see sanji even standing up to someone like Oven.
>>804742
He also said he regretted not making Bege look cooler.
>>804362
He actually didn't have the yonko planned at the start, it wasn't until a couple hundred chapters in that he decided he didn't want the shickibukai to be the final bosses.
From the way things are lined up now though pudding wiped Sanji's memory of her and the final fight of the arc will be daifuku and smoothie vs the strawhats, mainly sanji, Jinbe and support from chopper carrot and nami.
Bege's boys will likely kill perospero and gravely wound big mom before getting out.
I've said I think Blackbeard will show up to mop things up but idk so much anymore, if mont d'or and chicken man were smart they'd kill the reporter.
Anonymous 03/18/18 (Sun) 01:03:41 No. 805323
>>803290
>>803295
I'm assuming big mom doesn't even fuck the men she makes kids with she just steals parts of their souls and does some fuckery to create them, makes more sense than her shitting out a billion kids waiting 9 months in between each set.
Post last edited at 03/18/18 (Sun) 01:37:05
Anonymous 03/19/18 (Mon) 01:02:18 No. 805669
>>805323
The fuck is your problem faggot?
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 02:50:30 No. 806741
>Germa steals the spotlight from Sanji
>Sanji doesn't even have the slightest potential of becoming a modified human
>brother can already control heat with his sparking red shit
Why does Oda hate my boy Sanji so damn much? On the bright side, current spoilers imply that there will be no break next week. Suck it HxHfags.
>>805323
This sounds like some retarded youtube theory shit. Only thing more ridiculous is the one about Kaidou being a piece of the Red Line or some shit.
>>804989
But Sora has no swirls, unless the eyebrows are actually a result of the genetic modification and the only thing Sora's drug couldn't prevent.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 02:51:37 No. 806742
>>804746
At least he beat Yonji. And he could've beaten Judge if he hadn't used his clones as meat shields.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 02:57:40 No. 806743
>>803536
What? Lucci is a part of CP0 as seen at the end of Dressrosa, you speedreading faggot. Kaku being in CP0 on the other hand isn't official yet, only implied in the manga because of the manner of speech used by an unknown agent who Lucci was speaking to. Still disappointed though that Lucci would chose to return to the government after they tried to kill him. I was expecting him to start his own vigilante organization against pirates and marines
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 07:19:54 No. 806803
Latest chapter up on Jaimini.
MOTHERFUCKING WADATSUMI OUTTA NOWHERE!!
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 08:50:21 No. 806821
>>806741
This chapter had a scene that kind of puts that to bed. Judge -in the midst of protecting the Thousand Sunny- starts yelling at Luffy that he can't believe he'd really go through all this just to save Sanji. He starts naming everything he perceives as weak about Sanji. "He dragged you back out of being over emotional! The Germa experiments failed to activate on him! He's just an oversentimental cook!" and Luffy responds "Yeah, thanks for your help, see ya! 8D" and on the next page says "I don't get it, why was he naming all your good traits that I like about you Sanji?" They're not weaknesses, a robot could never be a good chef, you need emotion to cook well. Sanji isn't a robot. Loved Jimbe's reaction too.
All the theories that Sanji is going to get a robotic upgrade from Germa kind of miss the entire point of their interaction. That would completely go against the point of them not being his family and him rejecting Germa entirely. "You guys are evil monsters and I don't consider you my family!! ...Thanks for the robo suit."?
Other things of note though.
-Stussy and Morgans escaped. Now this makes me think this is all going to get out and we'll have new bounties for the crew soon, but Stussy is WG so she might still kill Morgans to prevent him from reporting this. Still who knows, maybe Chopper's bounty will increase to... 200!
-Bege just left the cake and ran. He said his ship had been destroyed, I'm guessing he just took the rest of the crew into his body. I noticed Chiffon was standing there doing the "I believe in this cake!" thing the same way Lola did. My curiosity here is if Bege left some kind of trap or if he decided it's not worth it to try and kill BM anymore.
-Apparently it turns out hard candy is not a sufficient treatment for a wound, and Perospero is dying of blood loss. Pekoms fate isn't updated, Daifuku increases the power of his genie by rubbing his tummy, Smoothie continues to be useless (If she loses a fight this arc that's all four sweet commanders taken down) on top of everything else we got two pages of reaction shots on the islands and it looks like all the citizens want to leave Whole Cake Island.
-Oh, and the Giant's chef. Am I the only one that got serious Toriyama vibes from his design? He looked like he walked straight out of Dragon Quest.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 09:59:35 No. 806827
>>806821
>Apparently it turns out hard candy is not a sufficient treatment for a wound, and Perospero is dying of blood loss
Made me laugh, the guy looked like a deranged Willy Wonka and now he's damn well cooked himself. Classic.
The Judge scene was great. Really sealed up the whole family conflict. Sanji and the Germas aren't going to have a happy family moment, the best he's got is Reiju, Luffy's response was perfect too.
I really liked Luffy trying to lie about being bored of waiting around for them. Doesn't want them to worry at all. This was a wholesome chapter.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 10:17:59 No. 806830
>>806741
> the one about Kaidou being a piece of the Red Line or some shit.
What?
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 10:34:39 No. 806834
>>806830
I too would like more information.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 10:51:13 No. 806837
>you will never be bullied by Smoothie's lucious thighs
It's an existential kind of dread.
>>806821
>giant chef straight outta DQ
I don't see it, honestly. His face just screams Oda, to me.
On a slightly related note, I wonder where he gets fresh and gigantic produce from. Can't imagine him julienning 200lbs of normal-sized carrots for a meal.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 13:40:47 No. 806858
>>806837
It's mostly the shield. Maybe it's because I was playing Dragon Quest Monsters and Caravan Heart recently, but I could hear the battle music playing in my head when I saw this image.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 14:17:34 No. 806865
>>806741
She literally has more kids than she has years alive and didn't start having them until she was like 30.
I don't think anyone expected the wadatsumi and the interaction between judge and luffy was funny as fuck.
Sanji cucked again.
Daifuku seems practically unbeatable by nearly everyone apart from logias.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 17:40:21 No. 806896
>>806865
>Sanji cucked again.
Damn you Oda you piece of shit
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 17:47:21 No. 806900
>>806821
>They're not weaknesses, a robot could never be a good chef, you need emotion to cook well. Sanji isn't a robot. Loved Jimbe's reaction too.
Nobody said anything about wanting Sanji to become a robot, just for the possibility that he could unlock some latent modified power while retaining his emotions like Reiju. Also, Sanji overall seems to have been nerfed in his escape. Before he was so fast Oven could barely see him, yet when escaping from BM's crew, he could barely survive, got shot in the arm and one of the sons can even use skywalk/moonwalk better than him, and all the while he was struggling to carry Luffy despite that he's proven to still have his monstrous strength just several chapters ago.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 18:36:25 No. 806913
I really want to know what Big Mom's reaction to eating the cake, is.
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 18:54:35 No. 806922
>>806913
>we never get to see it
>end of next chapter reveals that everything was just a flashback and the crew is busy with Kaidou
>still no Wano
Anonymous 03/23/18 (Fri) 23:22:13 No. 806987
>>806900
I don't understand this meme. I keep hearing these same complaints, and most of them make no sense.
-"Omg! They can skywalk?! That was supposed to be Sanji's technique!"
Sanji didn't name it, remember where we first saw it? CP9. Every single member of CP9 could skywalk. Even the fat ball guy Franky fought. It's the same place Luffy got the idea for 2nd gear, and the cat claw guy from Usopp's arc had a rudimentary version of it. I'm just surprised the crew hasn't learned more of those martial arts techniques. Getting mad about this you may as well go "OMG, Sanji's diable jamble is CUCKED by Ace, Akainu and Oven all having heat powers!"
-"Sanji got shot with a bullet!" While dodging an entire army of people shooting at him, and it was a bullet designed to injure armored Germa bodies, one of the ones that fucked up Reiju earlier in the arc, and Sanji BARELY EVEN NOTICED IT. And keep in mind, at the same time Sanji escaped with just that scratch poor Pekoms was being held down and having his fucking eyes gouged out WHILE IN SULONG FORM. Now if anyone got fucked over this arc it's Pekom. Bege "killed" him twice, his crew abandoned him, even the Fishmen that saved him left him tied up so he wouldn't fuck up their plans, he was MIA almost the entire arc and when he finally shows up it's because his mentor blew himself up, and he heroically defies his whole crew and is immediately destroyed in his powered up form while just a few chapters earlier Carrot destroyed a ton of BM's ships when she did it.
-"He's not getting Germa 66 armor..." This is like getting upset Blackbeard didn't teach Luffy how to have a second devil fruit. Luffy doesn't consider Germa his family. If they gave him a suit he'd destroy it. What's more it wouldn't even work on his body to begin with.
Maybe Franky will design something similar for him later.
And don't forget, there's like a 90% chance Sanji fucked 16 year old psychopoon Pudding. Remember their last panel together? She took away his cigarette, and leaned in close and asked him to do something for her. This right after they were discussing being married. There are only two things this could have meant. Either she asked him to quit smoking, or they fucked. 899 shows Sanji lighting a cigarette on the Sunny, so it's very likely he put some cream in that pudding.
On top of that he had like six HUGE moments. He fought Luffy. He defeated one of his siblings. He had that badass scene where he saved all their asses. He one-hit curbstomped Bobbin'. He dodged bullets at the wedding and made Pudding fall in love with him. He disowned Germa. He cooked the most delicious cake ever. Delicious enough to put anyone who tastes it into a coma. He lifted the giant thing with one leg.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 00:14:13 No. 807003
>>806803
The Fishman pirates have been absolutely Mr. Prince-tier of background usefulness this whole arc.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 00:23:55 No. 807007
>>806987
Sanji having trouble escaping can be attributed to a ton of shit too. He's barely slept, he's been fighting and cooking all day, the sheer volume of opponents heaving shit his way is absurd, there's been a ton of emotional duress and he's either just finished smashing Pudding's pussy or just had his memories of her wiped (maybe both) which could leave you feeling off balance too.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 00:24:34 No. 807008
>>807003
I just hope they get Pekoms out of there. He's getting totally fucked this arc.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 02:33:16 No. 807045
>>806987
>And don't forget, there's like a 90% chance Sanji fucked 16 year old psychopoon Pudding. Remember their last panel together? She took away his cigarette, and leaned in close and asked him to do something for her. This right after they were discussing being married. There are only two things this could have meant. Either she asked him to quit smoking, or they fucked.
At most they kissed. You really think Sanji would start fucking a woman when Luffy might pop out of the mirror at any moment? That was only 20 minutes before the time limit, too. It would be pathetic to start alleyfucking for like 15 minutes like some stray mutts. You're letting your fanboyism cloud your judgement.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 02:38:49 No. 807046
>>806987
Or like, she kissed him and then wiped his memories.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 03:45:30 No. 807054
>>807045
>>807046
Sanji was off his game because he had intense blue balls and couldn't remember why.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 04:37:01 No. 807063
>>806858
The shield, attire and poster definitely scream DQ. The face, hands and lack of leg day scream Oda, but overall, it makes me wish Enix was still its own separate thing so they could start a new series of rpg games spunoff from DQ that instead use Oda's style instead of Toriyama's.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 05:17:31 No. 807068
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play. >>806987
>-"Omg! They can skywalk?! That was supposed to be Sanji's technique!"
Nobody said that. Its the fact that someone else can use it just as well as him, or at the very least that Sanji couldn't at least use his strength to prove that his skywalk is superior simply because of his tremendous leg power and speed. Sanji and Chopper have both been forced to under perform this arc in terms of combat and the only combat-related shining moment for Sanji was when he was able to kick Oven easily and go unnoticed. And I ain't dissing Sanji. He is honestly my preferred character. What I can't stand is Zorofags constantly trying to undermine Sanji simply because "he isn't as strong as Zoro! Fuck off with your sexist curly brow erocook!" Why Oda chose to not give Sanji or Chopper a proper one-on-one fight with high ranking BM pirates (a simple short one that at least gets settled off-panel) is beyond me, I mean at least the Bobbin one would've been enough if Bobbin hadn't turned out to be so unimpressive. Just kicking away one Charlotte kid during the escape with Luffy would've been enough as well. That's all I ask. Nothing more. Then have him get shot up and beaten up for all I care. Also where do you keep hearing these "same complains"? There's hardly anyone else here but a handful of anons. Is it those faggots from the One Piece Podcasts or the ones from the forums spreading this shit around? Those retards are not worth shit. They were quick to disown and even threaten to defame Oda as a pedophile when they thought Pudding was younger than Flampe. Even the faggots at the One Piece Wiki were quick to judge Oda simply because "I know Japan has pedos, but I expected better from Oda-sensei! I don't even want to call him Oda-sama anymore! Yuck!" Just goes to show westerners are a shameless and disloyal bunch. Even the thought of her being 16 disgusts these modern faggots, despite Rebecca and Shirahoshi being the same age and them having no problem fapping to the likes of them. Bloody hypocrites.
>He's not getting Germa 66 armor
Nobody said that either. Germa's strengths primarily come from genetic modifications. I.e enhanced strength, durability and the elemental abilities that Reiju, Ichiji and Niji posses, in other words for Sanji to unlock some sort of latent genetic ability of the germa, not a costume. I honestly felt Sanji was gonna unlock some form of moderate pyrokinesis to maybe set things around him on fire after his cig burst into flames in Bege's dining hall the first time he got captured. But Sanji getting something silly like Germa hover boots would completely undermine all the effort he went through to master sky walk, so if anything I really hope Franky doesn't make a suit for him. Unless of course you're implying that the Germa's powers primarily come from their suits, then I seriously hope that's the case as well. Knowing that someone like Ichiji can pull off something like his firey Sparking Red shit since youth while Sanji had to suffer and struggle to achieve his flaming techniques is a real blow. Maybe all of this would've been easier to bare if Sanji had fought his brothers on the Germa fleet arena, but then we'd just be dragging on the arc with more needless fights. So there really is no winning.
>>806987
>On top of that he had like six HUGE moments. He fought Luffy. He defeated one of his siblings. He had that badass scene where he saved all their asses. He one-hit curbstomped Bobbin'. He dodged bullets at the wedding and made Pudding fall in love with him. He disowned Germa. He cooked the most delicious cake ever. Delicious enough to put anyone who tastes it into a coma. He lifted the giant thing with one leg.
The Luffy fight was pretty one sided. It was a very emotional and heart-wrenching scene that truly moved anyone who loves Sanji, but it wasn't a true "combat-highlighting" moment. Yonji, yes. But it was short and bitter sweet in that he didn't at least have the chance to fight another person in this arc in a serious one-on-one fight, as the battle between him and Judge was an unfair one. I mean, in all instances, Sanji comes out looking like the better and mature man, but overall it didn't help to show off his full combat potential, the closest instance to that being his fight with Luffy which was again, one-sided. The badass scene was a showcase of his coolness, but not battle prowess. Bobbin was honestly not that impressive. The rest are all valid moments of coolness and great for his character, but again not an example of a solid and true one-on-one fight to showcase his combat skills that would befit a character who at the start of the series was known as one of the "Monster Trio".
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 05:17:48 No. 807069
cont.
But the main and true question that matters most is, can we really say that kissing Sanji is all that Pudding did? Could she have truly done more with him? We know that Oda has the potential to imply sexual escapades, as he did with Doflaming and Viola. And if so, what are the chances that she edited out his memories of her?
>>807007
This. Precise and to the point.
>>807008
He might've also lost his cutesy eyes...
>>807046
Most likely. But this might create a huge plot hole in his memories. One of the main focuses of this arc was an arranged marriage, so did Pudding just cut off all her moments from his memory, or replace them, I wonder. Would be amusing if Sanji's memories of Pudding were replaced with one of the uglier Charlotte sisters. He'd definitely have no regrets then while avoiding any potential holes in his memories.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 07:40:15 No. 807094
>>807068
Something I've noticed in the MHA threads is that there's an anon that references people making complaints and raging about stuff, but the threads are normally pretty placid or having focused discussions that sometimes critique the manga. It's gotta be that they're going to other places to discuss the series and seeing dumb shit there then coming back to complain. I never understand what they're talking about.
I'm surprised there hasn't been some acknowledgement that Sanji is about on par with his siblings. Although I reckon that's something that doesn't really need saying considering he's capable of crazy shit already, but alongside that, I don't think Sanji needs to be absurdly strong and constantly get scenes showing that. He's always excelled at being more multi-skilled than Zoro and Luffy, he's able to perform in subterfuge, cooking, fighting, diplomacy and leadership roles. He's part of the Monster Trio, but it's become more and more clear that obscene strength isn't what makes him such a great character.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 11:05:16 No. 807128
>>806987
I stick by what one anon said last thread, Oda is retreading ground. At least copying some of the story beats from previous arcs. Just like Dressrosa was Alabasta again, WCI was Enie’s Lobby again.
Seriously,
>A member of the Strawhats leaves the crew against their will, taken by a shadowy organization.
>Luffy and his remaining nakama rush off to rescue him.
>over the course of the arc, a crew member fights Luffy in a dramatic scene, Luffy meets an ally that will go on to become a new crew member Sun Pirates running interference pretty much confirms Jinbe joining , Luffy reveals a new powerup while fighting an opponent lauded for their strength, the Strawhats make their escape on a badly damaged ship.
Anonymous 03/24/18 (Sat) 18:03:11 No. 807214
>>807128
Jinbei was confirmed before when he said he is ready to join the crew
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 01:23:50 No. 807474
>>807214
What was that like 400 chapters back now after Marineford?
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 01:33:49 No. 807479
>>807068
>>807094
I honestly can't understand why anyone would willingly go to those obnoxious forums, the youtubes, reddits or podcasts. Those places are just infested with DBZ fightfags and HxH-tier pretentious shits who instead of having legitimate criticisms, instead bitch about shit being sexist or power level/bounty nonsense while circlejerking about how much they miss Zoro all day. It's practically a poison banquet for the soul. Even 4cuck's OP threads at their worst aren't that poisonous.
>faggots were quick to judge Oda simply because "I know Japan has pedos, but I expected better from Oda-sensei! I don't even want to call him Oda-sama anymore! Yuck!" Just goes to show westerners are a shameless and disloyal bunch.
I saw a lot of people bitching like that. As soon as they see a small hint of Oda commiting an SJW infraction (as if he hasn't done countless ones already, but newfags hardly ever pay attention) newfags and pretentious fuckwits are quick to do a 180 and show how little investment and love they actually had for the series. I truly dread the day when the 2020 Olympics come around and western world (especially those fucking euros) unleash their full moralfaggotry on what little good (and lack of censorship) remains in japanese media. Also is it just me or is it weird that they altered Sora's grave in the anime? They've never altered graves before.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 01:40:53 No. 807487
>>807479
>poison banquet
That looks fucking t asty, anon. Care to share?
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 01:54:25 No. 807489
>>807487
No its mine. Get your own asshole.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 02:58:18 No. 807506
>>807479
Magellan and Reiju OTP.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 03:08:56 No. 807509
>>807506
Only a poison dick can survive that tasty poison pussy. I'd still risk it for her though.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 09:50:43 No. 807586
>>807479
>Waiting until 2020 to try and shame Japan
The Olympics Committee is already demanding they ban smoking in restaurants. For the poor tourists of course.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 11:18:15 No. 807605
>>807509
Just a single thrust, don't even care if it melts off after that.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 12:23:28 No. 807619
>>807586
smoking makes the place smell and non smoking customers have to smell that so thats not really a problem. some restaurants have smoking and non smoking areas for a reason
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 12:39:09 No. 807622
>>807586
>naming possibly the one good thing to come out of them as an example of them fucking things up
Smoking indoors is disgusting, just go to an open area to do it. I honestly don't understand why the japanese, a people who are always trying to avoid bothering anyone else at all costs, still smoke inside restaurants.
Sageru for offtopic.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 13:48:11 No. 807637
>>807586
>>807619
>>807622
If japs wanna smoke, let 'em. If those silly olympian gaijin can't handle it, that's their own fault. But come 2020, don't be surprised if we start seeing even stricter censorship or western new age ideologies because of new shitty guidelines in their ratings system.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 14:00:44 No. 807643
>>807586
>>807619
>>807622
Fucking pussies can't handle a little smoke. Smokers should smoke twice as much just to spite them. But seriously, if you live with a smoker, you don't notice the the smell as much, but if you don't it's far, far worse.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 14:55:51 No. 807652
>>807643
I wonder, I know logias and elemental paramecias become immune to the harmful side effects of their elements, but would smoking more make Smoker stronger or would it just do nothing? Also its weird that Magellan is immune to poison but still gets diarrhea from it. Wait, does this mean that... Reiju also gets a hot case of the hershey squirts?
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 15:15:26 No. 807655
>>807652
he may be immune to the effect of the poison but the toxins are gonna give him food poisoning. Reiju's body was probably altered for that not to be a problem while Magellan is just a normal guy
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 15:30:14 No. 807660
With the Reverie right around the corner let's talk about the participants.
Everyone in the top row directly benefited from the Straw Hats. They all had their kingdoms or lives saved directly by them.
In the bottom row Germa also had their asses saved by them, but may be less willing to admit it openly.
With the remaining four it's more of a toss up. Wapol was deposed by them, but if they hadn't defeated him he wouldn't have gone on to achieve his current level of wealth and power. The king of Kano country could go either way, the Chinjao family are from there, but it's not clear whether he likes or hates them. Defeating Doflamingo ended the war in his country, but I don't think it's been stated whether he benefited or was harmed by that.
Stelly has had no direct dealings with them, but if you remember him from Sabo's flashback he was an evil little shit back then and what little we've seen of him as an adult suggests he hasn't changed.
Thalassa Lucas has had no direct dealings, and we don't know anything about him to suggest if he's good or evil, but we do know at the last Reverie he was the one who predicted Dragon's rise in power, so he's probably not stupid.
I think they're going to be very critical of the weakness of the world government in the fact that ultimately the pirates have been more reliable in protecting them.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 20:17:08 No. 807773
So far WCI has been one of the biggest and greatest arcs, I can't imagine how Wano will turn out. In WCI we had half of straw hats, Bege, Germa, Sun pirates, a few minks and Ceasar. Wano will have the entire crew, Law, Kidd, Apoo, Hawkins, X-Drake, the Samurai and some others that I can't remember. It might easily beat Dressrosa in length and have even more named characters than Marineford. I wonder how Oda will handle it.
>>807652
Magellan gets diarrhea because he eats deadly poisoned food just because he can and it wrecks his stomach. Reijuu is some poisonous butterfly Zoan and I guess can digest the poison well.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 20:41:43 No. 807780
>>807773
Wano is going to answer so many questions. Probably added stuff to Zoro's backstory. I'm really anxious to see what happened exactly with Marco and with all of those Supernova. Also I read a spoiler that Jack and Jimbe are going to have an underwater battle against eachother, apparently one of Oda's editors said it.
My predictions:
-Franky makes robo limbs for Dogstorm and Catviper.
-New swords and possibly an eye reveal for Zoro. I'm hoping we get an even more badass version of the Whiskey Peak arc.
-Hawkins used his voodoo doll ability to bail, potentially abandoning his crew and the alliance. Kidd will probably ally with Luffy and Law disgusted with Apoo and Hawkins, and probably since he's in a cell his crew is probably mostly dead.
-Carrot's probably going to join as crew stowaway.
-Someone is going to attack the Reverie. Either Blackbeard or CP0.
Anonymous 03/25/18 (Sun) 23:45:47 No. 807892
>>807506
>Magellan
>Not superior Caesar Clown
Filthy, Dumb, Paramecia scum.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 00:45:21 No. 807919
>>807892
I like CC but you can't eat gas dipshit.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:04:48 No. 807925
>>807780
They will fuck up it somehow anyway like they have done at each New World arc so far. Starting from Fishmen island which had that retarded bloodtransfer 2deep4u symbolism scene while having D-class losers as villains the cast has been forced to act like retards constantly for the sake of the plot.
Dressrossa's bird cage was probably worsr case of this: why didn't Zoro just cut the the strings? But no, acting in-character when it would be smart thing to do is big no-no, that would ruin the artificial tension.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:17:39 No. 807930
>>807660
I think its likely that the top 5 will do everything they can to subtly calm any fears the WG has about the Straw Hats in hopes of keeping them safe while keeping their affiliations with them a secret. Either that or they'll announce that they'll be officially rejecting protection from the WG and announcing that they'll be raising the Straw Hat flags in their lands. It probably won't be all of them, but Dalton, Neptune and maybe Riku will most likely do it since Dalton is already at risk due to choosing a pirate flag as the Drum Kingdom's new national flag. Neptune might raise the SH flag but will not bring it up, instead wanting to focus on landfolk-seafolk relationships in order to convince the WG to give or allow them to colonize an island on the surface for the sea races to live on, as Joy Boy intended.
Stelly will probably be a prick and will announce his desire to do whatever he can to destroy the remaining Revolutionaries in order to get back at Sabo (or maybe his wife turns out to be good and she does something nice).
Wapol is sort of an odd case. The anime filler (most likely not canon) still indicates that he holds a grudge but is thankful for his situation. He probably wants revenge and doesn't care if they unintentionally gave him a better life, but then again, his brief life as peasant toy maker might have made him less hostile, but then again, he lives in the "Evil Black Drum Kingdom", so he's probably a bigger dick than ever. Most likely he'll try to have Vivi assassinated or declare war on Alabasta.
The Vinsmokes (assuming they survive against Big Mom and her forces) will probably just be indifferent dicks or use the Reverie as an opportunity to kill whatever remaining rulers North Blue has. Although, I have to wonder, doesn't Judge technically already rule four islands in North Blue after killing four kings there?
The King of Kano does seem to trust the Chinjao family and may be technically a part of the nation's military force, as the king himself had the Happo Navy go to Dressrosa to stop the Donquixote Pirates from selling weapons to Kano's enemies, and he did seem pleased the war ended and was disappointed the Chinjao family couldn't show up (and when they did arrive, they happily went back to their lives and Sai got married to Baby 5 without any incident from the King). So if he trusts the Chinjao Family, he must trust their judgement and choice to align with the Straw Hats, but he'll probably be indifferent and not even bring up the Happo Navy being under the command of Luffy. But in the case he or someone else does bring it up, the King might try to defend the Chinjao Family and might end up aligning with the top 5 kings.
Lucas will probably serve as an experienced figure, but as you said, nothing can really be said about him, assuming of course that he isn't dead. But aside, from that, I think the heated topics the kings will discuss will be the fall of the Revolutionaries and Wano, the Straw Hats' attack on Totto Land and Dressrosa and the landfolk-seafolk relationships.
I'm honestly really excited for the Reverie. But I wonder if the Straw Hats will make their way there somehow after Totto Land or if that shit will go down without them. I honestly just want to see Vivi reunite with them, even if its for just a bit. Also, if anyone here recalls, Brook used to be a knight in a far off kingdom. Maybe his the child of his former king/queen will be there. Reverie would be a good chance to learn more about Brook's youth.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:29:01 No. 807935
>>807780
>Also I read a spoiler that Jack and Jimbe are going to have an underwater battle against eachother, apparently one of Oda's editors said it.
Sauce? It sounds badass, but I find it a bit unlikely since, even though Jack may be a fishman/half-fishman, water still leaves him immobilized. Unless of course he uses bubbly coral. In which case I hope he does.
>-Franky makes robo limbs for Dogstorm and Catviper.
>dubnames
Still I honestly hope Inuarashi gets a machine gun leg. Would be badass. But what would be fitting for Nekomamushi? Machine gun arm or robot arm with large blade claws?
>eye reveal for Zoro
We've already seen his eye several times. He probably just keeps it closed due to the scar. Would be neat if he reveals that he keeps it closed as to not go overboard with his attacks rather than some overdone eyeball power shit.
>-Carrot's probably going to join as crew stowaway.
I think its likely that she may join the crew after Tottoland or stick with them without being a stowaway now that Pedro is gone. Without him, there's no one to drag her back to Zou by force.
>Reverie attack
Blackbeard is a likely pick, but the surviving Revolutionaries might do it just to show that they're not out of the game yet and take advantage of their presumably defeated status to stage a sneak attack of some kind.
>Kidd's crew might be dead
That's a shame since I liked the fire breather's design. I really hope Apoo allies with the Straw Hats.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:29:14 No. 807936
>>807925
Dressrosa suffered from character bloat and Oda needing a phoenix feather up his ass every other week.
Fishman Island was less about the fighting and more about the politics of it all. It's not the strongest arc, but I don't see it as an indicator of things to come given that Whole Cake Island has blown the fuck out of a ton of arcs. Hopefully we see the trend continue. I'm actually expecting Wano will focus on Zoro and the crew for a while before we reintroduce Luffy to the plot. Maybe even the reverie will take up the same run.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:32:51 No. 807939
>>807935
Killer at least should still be alive. Maybe the crew or whatever remains of it is hiding out.
As for Jack, that guy's a bizarre motherfucker. Really curious to find out what he is.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:34:18 No. 807942
>>807892
Magellan is probably superior since poison gas won't affect him at all other than give him the runs. Assuming he can use haki, he'd probably be able to KO Caesar easily since Magellan has proven that he is a true blue and mighty combatant with a tough hide rather than a wimpy nerd who hides behind gas, kids and threats (I don't hate Caeser, just telling it like it is. I'm still disappointed that he didn't stay enslaved with the Fire Tank Pirates. Was hoping he'd appear with them again from now on under his Gastino alias). Also, much like lava is superior to fire according Akainu, solidified or liquid poison may be superior to poison gas. So Magellan's fruit may actually be the superior version of the Gas Gas fruit, as his fruit can produce both liquids and gases.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:42:42 No. 807949
>>807939
I don't doubt Killer is alive. He's probably planning Kidd's escape. But if the other crew members are alive (or if their ship is still in tact) that'd be great (still bummed that Bege's cool ship got destroyed). As for Jack, my vote is still on half-fishman like Dellinger who was able to hide his dorsal fin, true eye color and teeth. Jack may have his fin hidden to and his mask covered up his teeth.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:43:11 No. 807950
>>807936
see >>807128
Reason why WCI arc seems good to you is because it's pretty much copypasted Enies Lobby with new colors to hopefully distract people from realizing it. By copying legitimately great arc Oda might be able to fool some, but it doesn't change the fact that One Piece reached its climax at Whitebeard arc and it has been going steadily downhill since then. Perhaps that downfall reverses for a moment or two at times when something good is going, but the overall trend of freefalling still continues.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:47:31 No. 807951
>>807925
>>807936
I honestly preferred Fishman Island to Dressrosa and Punk Hazard. The politics and villainous factions were underwhelming I guess, but the lore and Jinbe expansion was welcomed, however I still hate the fact that they never showed the Fishman Karate Dojo (the pride of Fishman Island). On a less important complaint, I was kinda disappointed that Wadatsumi wasn't an actual Umibozu, since I was hoping Umibozus would be the fishman equivalent of giants, but that's just a minor non-important thing. Dressrosa just felt like it dragged on needlessly with too much filler content and threats that felt off. I honestly prefer Totto Land to those three arcs, but after having endured Luffy vs Katakuri, I wish part of the first half of this arc hadn't been Luffy vs Cracker and instead other character fights that didn't take up the main focus, but that's just shonen for you.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 01:55:37 No. 807954
>>807950
I honestly did get some Enies Lobby vibes early on when the arc started, but its a bit different enough I guess, however Dressrosa to me felt like a legitimate copypaste of the Baroque Works Saga. Even the villains or their powers were just re-imagined versions of the members of Baroque Works with similar or upgraded versions of their powers. Mr. 5 and Gladius, Miss Valentine and Machvise, Miss Golden Week and Jora, Mr. 1 and Baby 5, Robin and Viola, etc etc. The least similar were Mr. 4 and Senor Pink who were more like opposites (soft-headed digger vs hard-boiled swimmer) which I actually kind of appreciated.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 02:01:44 No. 807957
I honestly think this arc would've been better with a complete focus on Sanji and lesser focus on Luffy. Still a lot did happen and its a shame Morgan already disappeared. I wanted him to stick around till the end and cream his feathers with the ultimate BIG NEWS that Katakuri got jobbered and BM crew has been forever shamed.
Anonymous 03/26/18 (Mon) 03:22:02 No. 807976
>>807957
He knows about Katakuri, when Brulee announced that it was heard on all the islands through the den den mushi. I don't think every citizen heard it, but definitely all of BM's army, and Morgan was sitting by one portion of it listening in on their conversations.
He doesn't seem concerned with what happens with BM and the cake. Maybe he has another source on the island and thinks the scoop he has is big enough already.
Anonymous 03/27/18 (Tue) 02:54:11 No. 808303
The sexy Charlotte cock biter with the panda hat finally got her name revealed.
Anonymous 03/28/18 (Wed) 15:22:44 No. 808825
>>808303
She and katakuri probably have the same dad.
Anonymous 03/29/18 (Thu) 15:44:26 No. 809080
Anonymous 03/29/18 (Thu) 22:16:35 No. 809174
>>809080
Gotta be a fake out.
Anonymous 03/29/18 (Thu) 22:59:18 No. 809181
>>809174
Gonna spoiler for now: Gotta be a fakeout. The Sunny was a huge part of Franky's character. We haven't seen the Pirate Emperor since Fishman island, but those mechs, those vehicles, the weapons in the sunny, the Coup de Burst, etc, are things that I don't think Oda would destroy when Franky isn't even around.
Anonymous 03/29/18 (Thu) 23:08:48 No. 809185
>>809181
Agreed. Without seeing everything, I reckon they're escaping underwater.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 00:31:45 No. 809198
>>809181
Yep. The ship is a character too, and if it's gonna die, we're gonna see it go down fighting.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 00:39:27 No. 809201
>>809198
Remember how much shit we went through just to lose the Merry?
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 08:19:18 No. 809279
It's out on Jaimini.
It's absolutely a fake out. No way this isn't suspense building for next week.
We've got plenty of good motivation to defeat Big Mom now. Looking forward to them clashing with full crews next time. Looks like Germa is fucked though.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 10:05:44 No. 809301
>>809279
>suspense building
>for next week
Anon, I...
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 11:36:26 No. 809314
>people actually thought a bunch of kids would be able to slip past a fucking emperor of the sea feared across the entire planet
You people are naive.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 13:35:25 No. 809329
>>809314
Yeah, but it's good that One Piece is over. 900 chapters is a good run for Oda's first series. Maybe WSJ will be nice enough to let him try again with a better series.
But seriously, it's a fakeout. Blowing up the Sunny is too much of a sudden, mean-spirited gutpunch for Oda. That would likely kill the whole crew, or at least drown most of the DF users. Losing their ship in the New World would be disastrous too. Would potentially derail the whole story, and Oda already said he doesn't have it in him to drag this out any longer than it needs to be.
All that said... what a fucking chapter. The Big Mom bits were genuinely unnerving. Like you could feel the psychotic evil dripping off every one of her panels. What really fucked with me though, was how much everything just turned around on us. In one chapter the Germa's ass-kicking of an entire island of Big Mom's subordinates and commanders was overturned. Now they have anti-germa bullets, somehow. Oven isn't fucking dead despite get Ace'd. Big Mom is more crazy than ever. Even the Fishmen destroying dozens of ships is undone in a few pages. And the worst part.... Next week is an off-week.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 14:05:36 No. 809333
>>809329
It being a fakeout doesn't mean they are just going to sail into the sunset unscathed a big fucking player is coming to bail them out, they cannot possibly make it out on their own after all this
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 14:16:15 No. 809335
This chapter was insane in more ways than one, just so well put together with great scenes.
It's good seeing big moms crew isn't a pushover when it get's it's shit sorted.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 14:23:35 No. 809336
>>809333
>unscathed
They haven't though. Their shit has been thoroughly wrecked already. The Big Mom pirates have also gotten their shit wrecked pretty hard. It feels like there isn't really a set number of ships that they have, in fact. Despite the Germa wrecking shit and Carrot disabling a few dozen ships, they still have hundreds, which just strikes me as weird. Likewise, Oven fucking everything up is messed up when he just got a hole blown through his chest and now he's walking around with a bad mood and some singe marks... and then Big Mom's personal huge as fuck ship shows up out of nowhere and lands a shot that nukes the whole ship. This makes the Big Mom pirates less of an enemy and more of a force of nature, and that's really starting to rub me the wrong way now.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 14:51:50 No. 809342
I really want to see this chapter animated. After how they handled Sanji's more emotional bits, this arc, the unease on display here would be phenomenal.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 14:57:34 No. 809345
>>809301
My bad, I meant next chapter.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 15:53:33 No. 809354
>people already forgot the Sunny has submarine capabilities
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 17:49:28 No. 809370
>>809336
>This makes the Big Mom pirates less of an enemy and more of a force of nature, and that's really starting to rub me the wrong way now.
Isn't that the entire point of the Yonkou?
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 18:23:37 No. 809382
>>809370
As far as we know, Shanks is just a powerful as fuck pirate, Blackbeard is a freak with strong devil fruits and a weird crew, Kaidou is likewise a freak, but for other reasons, and then there's Big Mom, who has a fleet large enough to rival the Navy and WG, all just hanging out around her home turf. I think that's the thing that's getting to me the most... but then again, it was a special wedding, so it's likely that most of the big shots came home just for the event. Doesn't explain why she has several hundred ships, when even White Beard only had a couple dozen at most, and he still showed up to fight the Navy head on with them.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. The Strawhats are going to make it out of this one, if only just barely, but it schisms my 'tism that we can have literally dozens of ships disabled, blown up, destroyed, or intercepted, and there's still so damned many ships in the Big Mom fleet that it's going to take and asspull/fakeout to get them out.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 19:06:37 No. 809388
>>809382
>Doesn't explain why she has several hundred ships
Her territory is huge and loves to take in subordinates why wouldn't she have a huge army?
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 19:13:39 No. 809392
>>809388
Because the nature of the Grand Line and the New World in particular would seem to interfere with having hundreds and hundreds of ships and also crews all capable of navigating and surviving the most dangerous seas in the world.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 19:20:00 No. 809395
Oven really carrying the team this arc for the Big Mom pirates.
Even though this is definitely a fake out I can't wait to see them turn this chapter into a musical number like they did with her introduction. Though I won't get to see it for a couple years because of One Pace's release schedule.
Anonymous 03/30/18 (Fri) 19:28:10 No. 809398
>>809382
>Doesn't explain why she has several hundred ships, when even White Beard only had a couple dozen at most
She married several pirates and married several of her kids with powerful people. She actively pursued a big "family", it makes sense for her to be the big fleet Yonkou. If anything it would be weird if her fleet was small or just a little bigger than we're used to seeing.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 00:40:57 No. 809473
What the fuck was with the newest chapter? Where the fuck did the singing come from? Out of Big Mom's mouth? What was with the zoom in in there and the cemetery? I didn't expect the Straw Hats to get out completely scot-free nor did I the Germa in fact, I think they could die. But still, everything felt like it was happening too fast. Like Oda took 2 chapter's worth content and jammed it into 1 for the special 900 drop and cliff-hanger.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 00:41:13 No. 809474
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 02:33:58 No. 809502
>>809473
That singing ship shows up out of nowhere every fucking time. It's terrifying.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 05:33:46 No. 809536
>>809395
Oven just nuked a huge chunk of ocean. He was far more effective than Dogtooth.
>>809473
The singing came from a bunch of trees that were living inside of BM's mouth. She loved the cake so much, that her entire being broke out into song. The singing ship just erased the strawhats, but they more than likely switched ships. Then again, loosing Sunny would have been a big deal to them. The Germa were also wiped out pretty quickly. Someone will probably appear out of nowhere and whisk them all away to safety.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 05:44:35 No. 809539
>>809342
Has the animation gotten better from the complete ass it's been for awhile?
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 07:58:59 No. 809558
>>809539
From what I saw, it's more the direction has improved than the actual animation quality.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 08:41:33 No. 809562
>>809536
>a bunch of trees that were living inside of BM's mouth
What
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 11:07:22 No. 809592
>>809536
Well, Oda isn’t stupid enough to kill the main character along with the two biggest market draw characters (Nami & Chopper). The Sun Pirates got fried and it looks like Judge is going to be fighting Snack which we probably won’t get to see.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 14:21:38 No. 809613
>>809562
I was confused if that was real or a transition or something. She packed on the weight almost immediately. At least we know that to defeat her you have to starve her. Guess we'll keep Sanji away from the rematch.
Anonymous 03/31/18 (Sat) 15:25:12 No. 809618
>>809536
I'm still chuckling at the idiots that were writing Oven off as some filler villain or an Akainu ripoff.
The man is a Yonkou Commander, there is no way he's a pushover in any shape.
Anonymous 04/01/18 (Sun) 12:44:16 No. 809941
>>809502
It was reported to be on it's way 12 or 13 chapters ago. BM just didn't need it since she could travel with Perospero and/or Zeus.
Anonymous 04/01/18 (Sun) 15:46:02 No. 809989
>Jaimini changed their page to look like Niggerstream
Top wew.
After rereading the chapter a couple times, I think Big Mom might be dying. Her seeing all the dead children (that she ate) and entering into a bizarre cartoony delusion, and singing creepy gibberish.. I don't know if Oda would go that far, but it could easily be the last thoughts of an insane woman as her brain finally fries out and dies.
Anonymous 04/01/18 (Sun) 20:03:42 No. 810064
It happened.
His voice isn't quite what I expected, I didn't know Sugita could make such a deep voice, not my favorite so far but it fits his outward personality and he might sound somewhat different in some later scenes.
Now we wait for donuts.
Anonymous 04/01/18 (Sun) 20:41:36 No. 810078
>>810064
I was expecting him to sound slightly more unhinged, like a chain-smoking biker, but I feel the tone fits for his character.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 00:53:19 No. 810162
>>810064
Are those hard subs, that I spy with my little eye?
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 01:08:52 No. 810170
>>810078
That's gonna be his tone for when he stops giving a fuck and rips his face-cloth off later
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 10:05:09 No. 810270
So, after seeing the last chapter I was thinking...
What if Pudding just manipulated the memory of EVERYONE?
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 10:22:31 No. 810271
>>810270
Then she would have to touch everyone and cut out whatever really happened.
Besides she can't make new memories, just replace them with some she took from someone else.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 12:54:33 No. 810302
>>810270
>>810271
If it's possible to awaken any Devil Fruit then imagine how ludicrous she'd be. AoE memory manipulation that gives her full read, write and delete permission.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 15:04:39 No. 810331
>>810302
Just imagine how ludicrous awakened Buggy would be. He'd turn into Gangster Gastino .
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 19:56:10 No. 810409
>>810302
Just imagine Sugar with an awakened fruit.
Anything she looks at can become a toy and will be forgotten by everyone else. Unless Busoushoku can save you somewhat from it, or not every awakened fruit has to have some AoE capability, it'd be way too strong.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 20:20:04 No. 810413
People keep trying to find ways that this could be a fake-out, but none of them make sense.
>Pudding manipulated everyone's memories
Her ability doesn't go that far, and awakening would be too much of an asspull.
>Mirage tempo
Mirages don't explode or catch fire, it would have disappeared the instant the cannonball connected.
>Big Mom is hallucinating it
She doesn't know that Luffy got so injured, yet Luffy is covered in bandages and right next to Chopper.
>Law + Grand Fleet appeared, shambles-ed the Sunny with a makeshift fan-ship by Barto
Yes the entire grand fleet exactly in time without being seen despite there being hundreds of ships, and additionally Law left Wano meaning Wano is already finished or he just gave up.
>They escaped with the shark submarine thing
"Hey guys lets abandon our beloved ship and destroy Franky's dream carelessly for the sake of ourselves"
The Sunny is gone, the condition of the crew is a mystery for now.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 22:35:26 No. 810453
>>810413
Crocodile and Mr 1 are here to save the day.
Or the giant crew have arrived.
Anonymous 04/02/18 (Mon) 23:31:49 No. 810483
>>810413
NAMI STILL HAS ZEUS
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 01:43:12 No. 810522
>>810483
A faggot cloud isn't going to stop a ship from exploding, no matter how fat it becomes from charging up
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 02:20:58 No. 810533
>>810522
He'd be useful as a getaway or for creating more convincing mirages. And realistically, if they wouldn't have enough time to board the sharksub, so if they are going to abandon the Sunny it might be by flying on Zeus. Who would probably bring them right back to Big Mom anyway.
I have a hard time imagining the Sunny being repaired from something like this. Let alone how they would get back to Wano with the pieces for Franky to repair. I also think this situation is sort of an insult to Jinbe's helmsman skills. Sure, he doesn't have to be perfect, but I'd like to think with his maneuvers it'd take longer to take the Sunny down. And honestly, if the Sunny were to die, that's how I'd like to see it done. A long, drawn out battle, with the Sunny taking hit after hit as each further cements it's fate.
Also while rereading around timeskip I found a panel with this guy holding a doll that looks very similar to Carrot. How likely do you think she is as a crew member?
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 06:21:19 No. 810581
>>810533
Carrot hasn’t been too obnoxious, I wouldn’t want her as a main Strawhat. If she created a crew of Minks that joined the Grand Fleet, I wouldn’t mind. Wano is already going to be a clusterfuck between The Strawhats, Law, The Samurai, the other members of the Worst Generation, and the incoming stragglers from Whole Cake. Carrot can stick around for that arc but then I’d rather she just go back to Zou.
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 09:53:01 No. 810607
So, there's a fake chapter 901 floating around made for April Fool's. It's... pretty good.
ONE PIECE CHAPTER 901: PREPARE TO THROW UP EDITION
The crew is saved... by the return of King Baum who is revealed to have a bounty of 1.5b berry and says he was brought back to life by Lady Tree. Then Snack is taken out off panel by Judge, Smoothie just stands around being useless and says "I wish I could do something...!" This is followed by Poun D. coming back to life, and attacking Big Mom to avenge his daughters. Asked how he survived, he's revealed he was saved from Oven by... Pedro, or should I say Pe D. Ro? He then takes out Big Mom by blowing himself up AGAIN. BM's fleet is still in hot pursuit of the Sunny when they're saved by the timely last panel arrival of Cor D. Iano (some random anime filler character who was in like two episodes and has no powers.)
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 18:16:25 No. 810678
>>810607
It's two days late for an April's fools joke.
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 18:35:05 No. 810683
>>810678
Yeah, but it came out on the 1st, but no one mentioned it here then, so I figured better late than never. I chuckled at it.
The cover is A crudely shopped edit of Luffy and Katakuri *dabbing*...
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 19:19:08 No. 810697
Anonymous 04/03/18 (Tue) 23:10:21 No. 810753
>>810064
>pink tattoos
>pink hair
I'm not even surprised since he is Big Mom's son after all, but it looks ass ugly and considerably lessens his design.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 01:48:32 No. 810790
>>810581
I'm impartial to her joining, but gut instinct tells me Oda has something planned with her.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 03:48:29 No. 810815
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>809329
>break next week at the most important part
>Jump announces Wano is coming, making this cliffhanger even worse
Fuck why?
>>809539
It hasn't, but the fucker directing it seems to be trying to do his best to polish this turd, and I commend him for that. Maybe the slight improvement could be due to DBS ending too?
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 03:53:10 No. 810816
>>810815
>>break next week at the most important part
>>Jump announces Wano is coming, making this cliffhanger even worse
>Fuck why?
Simple. Suspense. It's all part of advertising. It helps drive up the discussion and therefor the popularity of One Piece. The more people want something, the bigger your eventual payoff will be.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 04:06:54 No. 810818
>>810533
Carrot confirmed for best nakama
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 04:08:34 No. 810819
>>810064
I was enjoying this on googletube until I accidentally saw the comics. Nothing but "Is that a mother fucking JoJo reference?" in every post. Fucking modern jojofags are a disgrace to the old and are basically the weeaboo version of bronies.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 04:47:28 No. 810832
>>810818
Carrot is not for lewd, she is too cute and innocent for that.
I'm not too fond of Su Long either, I think it's a cliche and forced ability.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 05:35:39 No. 810844
>>810832
She won't need it anymore once she gets Monet's fruit .
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 05:52:34 No. 810865
>>810844
I've seen multiple theories. People seem to argue over Nami or Carrot having it. But this image could be foreshadowing towards the latter. One Piece truly has been a wild ride, anything's possible, anon.
I don't entirely hate the idea of Minks having a transformation ability either, at least for Nekomamushki or Inuarashi. Having it involved with the moon is what I dislike about it. Also I feel it doesn't suit Carrot. And she kind of used it like a retard, being out for a couple chapters and needing Brook to save her ass, when she could've waited until a more decisive moment to use it.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 06:04:36 No. 810874
>>810865
I don't understand why people think Nami would get it. Her updated climatact is more than enough to put her on par with stronger characters, and with Zeus (assuming he obeys) will only make her all the more dangerous. Not to mention a snow fruit would not compliment her "modern witch" theme. I'm still bugged that she had no issue with Usopp taking out the "magic wand" from her clima tact nor that it didn't seem to have any negative effects upon being removed from her weapon. You'd think something like that is what allows the more magical aspects of the device, like how Nami can seemingly control clouds with her mind without even holding her clima tact, like when she was showering. Or the whole eggs thing. I really hope the magic wand is referenced later on as an important missing piece that Nami needed. And yeah I agree that Sulong form was kind of unneeded for Carrot. I don't really mind the moon aspect, but I know what you mean. I also feel that Carrot's sulong scene would've been a good chance for Chopper to show off his skills.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 06:30:11 No. 810881
>>810874
The moon aspect is odd to me because realistically, they'd only be able to use that ability every month or so. Meaning it'd be hard to actually plan on using it rather than pulling it out of their ass whenever it's convenient. Not to mention the "savage" or "wild" aspect of it makes it seem worthless, especially if you can only train every month or so to control that.
How the fuck did Carrot train for that anyway if she's part of the daytime squad!?
Personally, it would've been more interesting if the Daytime squad was all herbivores and the Nighttime squad was all carnivores. And that every Mink can use a transformation ability but it's different depending on which. Herbivores can gain increased speed and perception during the daytime but suffer drawbacks yadda-yadda. Carnivores can increased strength and perception but also suffer drawbacks yadda-yadda. But it's Oda's story and I didn't really need to share those ideas.
People argue for Nami because she's supposedly "weaker than Carrot" seeing as Carrot already has electro and Su Long. I'm not a fan of it either because I'd think it'd conflict with her weather abilities and I don't think it suits her from a design standpoint, if that's a valid criticism. Also I don't think Zeus will obey or stay around after the Whole Cake Island arc.
And what skills for Chopper to show off? I can see Jinbe using that as to show off his helmsman skills. WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN REFERENCED OR MENTIONED SINCE IMPEL DOWN.
Sorry for the big post, have this image of Chopper.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 07:49:21 No. 810919
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play. >>810881
I honestly feel like the Minks were poorly developed in those departments, especially the Sulong form, the squads, their monarchy and their homeland. I honestly would've preferred it if they were less like fishmen in terms of biology with Zou being bigger and having enough room for separate tribes to exist while still allowing crossbreeding but having each one posses a unique cultural gimmick based around the stereotypes of the animals they derive from and a greater cultural divide between carnivores and herbivores (and having a strength difference based on diet would be fitting since that's what he does with zoans), but that's just me. Overall, I would settle for just the squads and sulongs having been done better.
Pretty much the same thoughts on Nami. I just want to see Chopper do some serious doctoring again rather than just simple bandage shit, or at least have him discover some rare medical ingredients now and then. As for combat, I just wish he didn't use kung fu point so often and I really wish he'd show us what his other forms look like after the timeskip. He hasn't used arm point and jump point yet, although I think I recall him saying he lost those forms for some reason, can't be too sure, but I think he used arm point during some anime filler. I'll look it up.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 07:50:55 No. 810920
Yep, he did use it, but filler doesn't really count.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 08:19:27 No. 810922
>>810919
Those are similar ideas I had for a furfaggotry series of short stories, although no cross breeding or hybrids. (Unless it's a real life hybrid.) Furry-esque concepts always get fucked up unless the series features it as a core part of it.
Also didn't Chopper use arm point during the big fight on Fishman Island?
Yet another to add to the list of arcs/ideas that could've been done better
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 08:30:12 No. 810925
>>810919
Also another thing about Minks I should've mentioned. I believe Oda stated that Minks are born as a random animal, so I have a hard time imagining tribes based on one type or species. Basically a horse Mink and a dog Mink could have a bear Mink child.
Pedro looks similar to Carrot hairstyle-wise but that might not mean anything.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 09:35:37 No. 810938
>>810881
Jinbe sailed the Sunny through a tidal wave, he showed his skills right there. Though it's been irrelevant since.
I hadn't thought too hard about minks, but they're really just humans with a super form and some animal benefits rather than actual animal people.
Anonymous 04/04/18 (Wed) 14:01:09 No. 810992
>>810815
>could be due to DBS ending too?
Unlikely, they started Kitarou and created a special department for DB.
This makes it highly likely that they create a new DB series in 1.5-2.5 years.
OP is kinda screwed, because DB makes much more money and it's revenue is constantly growing.
Then there's Precure which is directly owned by Toei.
What Toei does with the OP IP is a disgrace, but sadly I don't think the production quality will improve.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 00:21:44 No. 811163
>>810992
>created a special department for DB.
>This makes it highly likely that they create a new DB series in 1.5-2.5 years.
>a new DB every 2 years
Please no. Toei has become no better than the west. Fuck. OP deserves better than this.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 03:44:10 No. 811200
>>810992
One Piece needs the JoJo treatment and restart the series, adapting it panel for panel. Or adapt each arc into a movie. Even if that movie would be 6 hours long.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 05:02:52 No. 811211
Could there be a "clown tribe" in OP? Totto Land seems to have a lot of clowns as citizens much like Buggy, and even Mont D'or and one of the 31 Chefs are clowns. Also, anyone else notice those tiny humanoids with squiggly hoods that seem to be even smaller than tontatta dwarves?
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 09:55:27 No. 811265
>>811200
This. One Piece getting redone by a studio like Bones (I suggest Bones only because MHA is doing so well) would be excellent.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 13:47:47 No. 811310
>>811265
One Piece's first special was actually done by IG.
But Toei ended up getting the main series a year later.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 15:12:58 No. 811326
>>811310
If IG had gotten it back then they probably would've ended after 70 episodes and given it a shitty anime original ending.
Anonymous 04/05/18 (Thu) 22:13:46 No. 811406
>>808825
Strangely enough, Oda says she's Galette's twin sister. And Katakuri, Daifuku and Oven are triplets yet only Katakuri has the fangs. Also, is it just me or are the Charlotte childrens' designs becoming duller? Originally they all appeared unique and part of a unique race, but no majority of them are just regular-looking humans with no sign of a unique race or deformity/mutation.
Anonymous 04/06/18 (Fri) 05:01:35 No. 811463
>>811406
A lot of kids would probably be a result of naval grabbing marriages, Big Mom loves to fuck apparently.
Anonymous 04/07/18 (Sat) 15:42:45 No. 811797
>>811406
There are only so many races, and she doesn't have access to all of them.
Anonymous 04/07/18 (Sat) 17:31:03 No. 811827
>>811797
It doesn't have to be races. It could just be unique looking weirdos with deformities or odd traits, like Perospero's long tongue, Katakuri's teeth, Moscato's two-tone hair, Poire's beartrap mouth, Galette's antenna/horns, Opera's (and his brothers') head bumps and wrecking ball shape, Nusstorte's massive head, Montd'Or's clown features (like Buggy), Cracker's fireworks hair or Flampe's fat bubble ass. The more recent siblings just look really ordinary. Oven is an ordinary muscular human with Popeye forearms (and there are many humans in one piece with this trait so its not very unique), Daifuku looks really ordinary (newfags comment about him having weird body proportions but his physical frame is no different that most characters, especially Marines), Bavarois is just a caricature of a famous boxer with oversized boxing gloves, Snack's body proportions are also common with other characters, Brownie, Yuen, the Decuplets, Anglais, Joconde and Anana look really fucking normal and no different than any other kind of human we've seen before. Only named one I haven't addressed is Raisin since he has those lines under his eyes, and I don't recall if any other human in OP has had those before. I'm not saying the designs themselves are bad, just very common to what you'd expect to see in the OP world by now and not what you would expect from a woman interested in marrying unique-looking men. I guess I was expecting we'd see more of the other more interesting looking humanoids from before, like that pumpkin warrior or the demon guy as the next siblings to be named. Then again, its possible one can reason that their fathers were unique but the kids didn't inherit their odd traits, like how Lola and Chiffon didn't inherit Pound's oversized head, just his ugliness. Which is probably why Big Mom doesn't think much of most of her kids in any sense.
Anonymous 04/12/18 (Thu) 21:28:03 No. 813560
>Jinbe leaves the crew again
Damn you Oda. Stop with this bullshit... Oh well, at least this means Carrot will join.
Anonymous 04/12/18 (Thu) 23:43:27 No. 813582
GERTH CONFIRMED FOR NEW NAKAMA
Anonymous 04/12/18 (Thu) 23:50:03 No. 813585
>>813582
I bet she's a size queen.
The spoilers are some BS. Of all the outcomes I didn't expect we'd get cockteased for yet another arc with Jimbe. And it's kind of sad the Fishmen are getting destroyed. That was their ship that was wrecked. I guess of all the crews to lose their ship they can handle it best.
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 00:31:03 No. 813588
>>813585
If the pics I've seen are true, then this is some serious bullshit. At this rate they will have already explored more than half the grand line without needing a helmsman. The arc had a lot of flaws half way in, but I was at least expecting Jinbe to finally join. Instead its just another freaking teaser. And the worst part is that Big Mom is perfectly fine and angrier than ever and on her way to kill them. So the cake did nothing. Sanji deserved to shine this arc but ever since the Germa flashback ended, Oda has been giving him a shitty treatment. Some cool moments here and there but the cake was his shining achievement. I was hoping it would knock her out. Instead its done nothing. But I really hope all of this is wrong.
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 00:42:49 No. 813589
>>813588
Don’t worry, Oda has everything planned out. Surely he hasn’t painted himself into a corner and will need to resort to an asspull on the level of his friend Kishimoto to get out of this. He just had to put some last minute shit in there, he couldn’t have the resolution be “Luffy defeats Katakuri, the Cake puts Big Mom down for the count, Germa and Sun Pirates run interference while Luffy and Co escape. I’ve accepted the fact that we’re never going to see Zoro, Ussop, Robin, or Franky ever again.
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 01:00:33 No. 813594
>>813589
I remember when the arc started... Everything looked so bright...
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 13:35:25 No. 813760
BIG NEWS
Oven is bullshit.
>>813582
Calling dibs on her right now. I'm sick with love .
>>813691
Chuckled/10.
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 13:47:34 No. 813765
>>813588
> And the worst part is that Big Mom is perfectly fine and angrier than ever and on her way to kill them. So the cake did nothing. Sanji deserved to shine this arc but ever since the Germa flashback ended, Oda has been giving him a shitty treatment.
Truer dubs were never posted. We knew the asspull was coming, but for all of this to essentially amount to absolutely nothing with Jinbe not even joining the crew and Big Mom not actually defeated in any way is just... really unsatisfying.
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 15:00:32 No. 813776
>YOU MUST JOIN MY CREW JINBE
<Hoho, all in good time
>JINBE! ARE YOU READY NOW?
<Of course! Let me finish my business here and we shall be off
<Whoops, looks like I'll be leaving now
>SEE YOU IN MY CREW IN WANO, JINBE
<See you, Luffy!
>JINBE YOU SURVIVED! I'M SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON MY CREW FINALLY!
<As am I, now let us defeat Kaido!
<Whoops I got punched over the horizon
>SEE YOU AT THE REVERIE JINBE
FOUR ARCS LATER
>I CAN'T BELIEVE JINBE SACRIFICED HIS LIFE TO HELP US GET TO RAFTEL!
<No Luffy! I still live!
>JINBE!! FINALLY THE CREW IS ALL TOGETHER, LET'S GO GET ONE PIECE!
<Oh no, I've been sent to Hell by Blackbeard's final form!
>SEE YOU IN ONE PIECE SUPER, JINBE!!
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 16:47:21 No. 813804
>>813691
>Stays behind. Again.
Damn it Jinbe. Oh well, at least Morgans managed to save this chapter... Also fuck Oven. Might as well make the stupid fuck a sweets commander.
>>813765
I was really enjoying this arc up until the last few chapters. An ending can either make or brake a story, and the ending to this arc really broke it for me. It just makes the whole thing feel like needless filler. Like they might as well have not split up on Zou. Nothing was gained other than getting back something they previously had. I just hope this isn't really the end to this arc and there's still a few more chapters left in Totto Land...
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 16:50:48 No. 813805
>>813776
Heh... Heh... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Anonymous 04/13/18 (Fri) 16:52:35 No. 813806
>>813804
A lot of stuff was developed and it did make the crew stronger in some ways, but man.. this ending better fucking shape up in the next chapter or two, otherwise it's going to turn this whole arc, which really was quite an amazing ride on par with some of the best arcs in the series, turn into one giant cake fart.
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 00:59:00 No. 813986
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 05:26:42 No. 814020
>>813965
>Moscato comes back to life instead of someone who deserved it, like Zepo
>Opera is probably alive too
>muh bandages fix everything
>Jinbe leaving again and will hardly ever be on the crew
Carrot is the only thing that can save this arc now.
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 05:30:45 No. 814021
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 05:31:40 No. 814022
>>813965
Anyone else seeing this? Am I going mad?
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 05:41:44 No. 814023
>>814022
It's not just you, I see it, alongside other things. Am I going mad?
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 07:26:07 No. 814034
>>814023
Also
>Book of Life character and Moscato both die protecting what they care about
>have their souls swept away by the main old person villain
>both come back to life after dying
>Book of Life guy had adventures in the afterlife to get back his life
Could Moscato have had offscreen adventures in the Underworld when we weren't looking? That be fun in a bun instead of just him getting better for no reason. Chances are it was just Mama's incarnations bringing him back by putting all his soul bits back in him, despite that Pound clearly said that souls can't enter humans or corpses once removed.
Anonymous 04/14/18 (Sat) 18:29:39 No. 814151
>>814034
That's a mistranslation. I heard it was that souls cannot be added to other humans, they can still be given back to their host, you just can't prolong someone's life through it.
Anonymous 04/15/18 (Sun) 04:32:06 No. 814467
Why does Moscato have bandages? Mama didn't even physically touch him. It makes it feel like the "bandages can fix everything" meme all over again.
Anonymous 04/15/18 (Sun) 09:44:36 No. 814580
It's truly mindblowing how this arc went from fucking amazing to the worst dud in 900 chapters, all in the span of a single chapter.
Anonymous 04/15/18 (Sun) 15:38:44 No. 814665
>>814580
All it takes is how you wrap it up. Its like reading a really great book only to reach the end and find out its really fucking stupid or has the worst (or no) decent closure with nothing they did ever really mattering whatsoever. Which is why the thought of OP's ending worries me more and more since Marineford. The thought of having spent more than a decade invested in a story only to find out that the ending is just one big "FUCK YOU" would be heart crushing. The only thing that gives me hope is that Oda said that he had the ending already written and planned out since the manga started, so its likely going to be adventurous at very least and the only changes it can possibly have is the addition of a few new characters he hadn't planned on. Like the Blackbeard and the Admirals.
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 00:22:15 No. 814875
>>814580
What bothers me is how the Sunny turned out to be saved. Everything else is peanuts and I feel the arc still could've turned out fine. Jinbe leaving? Understandable, I've accepted that. Germa getting fucked? That was Big Mom's plan anyway. Pekoms Su-Long retardation? I never liked Su-Long form. Pedro dying? It needed to happen so Carrot can join. Wadatsumi saving the Sunny? Okay. What about Oven? Why switch the ships and just not save both? What about the fact there's no coating on it? It's such a shit-tier asspull. And realistic speaking, pulling the Sunny underwater for a second with coating will fill it and it wouldn't be able to float.
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 06:34:35 No. 814976
>>814875
>It needed to happen so Carrot can join.
Probably the only good thing that might come from this arc with the way things are going, that and maybe Nami getting Zeus I guess. But as you said, everything seems so stupid. Big Mom's plan made no sense. Why did she want to betray Germa? She never had to betray someone before to get them to marry into her family and have them work alongside her, yet the Germa were the exception? And worst part is that she wanted their tech, but what good is that shit to her and her family if only the Germa are smart enough to use it? What would stop the Germa Kingdom from self-destructing or the clones from disobeying her? And I could probably deal with this Sunny asspull with Wadatsumi if not for the fact that everyone in the Charlotte Family saw the switcheroo. Best thing to have done was to escape and have the Big Mom Pirates think they were dead, because otherwise, what's going to stop them from killing their friends and families in revenge and sending their heads to them in boxes? They know about Zeff, so they definitely know about Dadan, Makino and Woopslap for Luffy, Yosaku, Johnny and the Dojo for Zoro, everyone on Nami's fucking island, Kaya, the list goes on. What's to stop them from fucking over the completely defenseless East Blue in revenge now that they know that the Straw Hats got away? And if you were just gonna drag the Sunny underwater, why switch it with Fisher's ship? Are we to expect that they actually thought that the BM pirates wouldn't notice a giant fishman plucking a ship underwater and replacing it with a completely different one? With Wadatsumi, I could understand since he's not that bright, but that shit was cooked up by Aladdin of all people. And as you said, no fucking coating. This all feels like some ridiculous asspull for Oda to shock people with the thought of the Sunny being destroyed. It would've actually been worth something if he had skipped to the Reverie and given us several chapters without knowing the truth to increase tension, buildup and sales, and thus make this asspull not feel so underwhelming. But that apparently could not be the case. And that's the note Sanji leaves Pudding on? No proper apologies? No hint that the horrible things she said before were just her lying to herself? Her whole damn excuse for being evil is that she was bullied, yet she had no sympathy for Sanji despite being raised in a similar situation. Hell, Hancock was a bitch too but she at least had a far crueler upbringing as a slave in the cruelest place on the planet.
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 10:16:50 No. 815011
>>814976
The Germa thing gets even dumber. Why did she go to such lengths for their tech when she also had these magic bullets that let random mooks completely trash the Germa elite in a second?
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 12:08:40 No. 815024
>Nothing good happened this arc!
Yeah, it was total shit. Nothing good happened. All these Big Mom family characters weren't neat. The entire Katakuri fight, learning more about Bege and him becoming one of the more interesting Supernovas, the massive overhaul of Sanji's backstory, him dodging bullets, kicking a yonko and flying through the air lifting a giant cake with one leg, the Sulong reveal, all the new Underworld characters particularly Morgans and Stussy, all the fight scenes with Germa, Pound going out like a boss, Pedro alluh ackbaring twice, his hilarious fight with Tomago, Big Mom's horrifically fucked up backstory, bursting out of the wedding cake, stealing Zeus and the poneglyph rubbings, Sanji and Luffy's interaction, that terrifying scene where Luffy fought Big Mom's ENTIRE army alone, the couple dozen new hotties that were introduced this arc, Barto burning Shanks flag, and like a million other things.
All are totally undone by Jimbe saving his former crew, the Sunny *not* being destroyed when Franky isn't even there, and a minor character in his 20's not dying from being aged 40 years.
We got a couple of fickle fucking faggots ITT.
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 22:01:56 No. 815147
>>815024
Great build up, potentially shit pay off. All those cool things, especially the ones that will have lasting and recurring ramifications for the story, are indeed good.. The problem, however, is that we had 75+ chapters of build up with a clear outcome being worked towards: Retrieve Sanji (Enies Lobby style), fight a ton of powerful dudes, beat Big Mom with the power of cooking, leave with a crew member. We got half of those and the ones we go were inevitabilities. One Piece has lots of fights and Sanji was never going to leave permanently. This means the other shit we were promised is all we have left... and we didn't get it. Jinbe's inclusion was forced and awkward, even though he did save the day, and Big Mom was built up too much, only for her to end the arc seemingly more crazy, unphased, and still out to kill the Strawhats in spite of everything that happened.
The arc isn't quite over yet, but unless we get some fucking closure, this arc will have a big ol' fucking blotch on it that ruins and otherwise amazing ride. The finale for these things are super important, and it's why so many of One Piece's most memorable moments come from the endings of the arcs. Leaving Alabasta, Luffy and Enel's fight, The Strawhats getting separated at Shaobody, Ace fucking dying, Luffy using Boundman to beat the everloving shit out of a villain who had been built up for decades. So what do we have here? The Strawhats ran away, and some tertiary characters might die fighting for Jinbe.
Anonymous 04/16/18 (Mon) 23:12:25 No. 815168
>>815147
> The Strawhats ran away, and some tertiary characters might die fighting for Jinbe.
Jinbe said it himself earlier in the arc: "Yonko will be Yonko." They did a massive amount of damage to Big Mom's kingdom. She herself may be fine but her entire army is wrecked, she's not the only one with access to her poneglyph anymore, she was humiliated world-wide, her citizens have lost faith in her protection, Bobbin is seriously dead, several of her allied characters and crews defected, her reputation is wrecked, her surveillance network was destroyed, several of her islands are destroyed, Smoothie is the only one of her commanders not rendered unconscious by a Supernova (yet) and a piece of her own soul was stolen literally right out from under her.
Sanji's food was never going to knock her out, because that's not what his food does. We've seen what food does to Luffy, it stands to reason it would do the same thing to Big Mom. And this case it was a giant cake made by Sanji, of course it healed her. We learned a lot about her weaknesses though, and by the time they meet again Luffy is going to be able to beat her.
What I'm more interested in is the fact that all the other supernovas aside from Urogue and Bonney are going to be in this next arc with Kaido. I wonder if Shanks will get an arc.
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 08:51:51 No. 815338
>>815024
>All these Big Mom family characters weren't neat.
What was the point of getting to know so many of them when in fact only a handful of them ever did anything of note? They feel like Bleach characters in terms of how deceitfully most of them were presented, as though they were gonna be important to the plot. Smoothie was a pretty huge disappointment for the most part.
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 12:59:50 No. 815398
So what's going to happen to every single Strawhat's friend and relative? They are now leaving behind a completely pissed off Linlin, who is known for being a complete psycho and all about murdering family of whoever even annoys her.
What the fuck could the sorry saps on Paradise do if a Yonkou decided to show up to fuck them up?
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 14:34:24 No. 815422
>>815168
>Bobbin is seriously dead
[LAUGHTER CONTINUES]
This arc has been a hell of a ride. If it's really ending with the crew barely surviving and next to none of the major enemies defeated then this'll be a first for the series, won't it? Every other arc ended with a major triumph if not total victory. Now here we are with everyone getting their shit pushed in and a barely scraped out victory. We've really gotta look at all the subtle victories of the arc to really appreciate all the things accomplished, because I don't think we're getting a big feast and dicksucking contest at the end of this brutal battle the Strawhats have gone through.
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 22:31:49 No. 815551
Worst part about all this is Zoro coming back. Nothing but fightfags all around once he returns to the stage. And Oda saying Wano will be "bigger than Marineford" in terms of "epic" battles, makes me worried its gonna be another bunch of poorly depicted war battles with panels being nothing but cluttered messes of characters (which the anime will once again suck at portraying decently).
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 22:37:24 No. 815554
>>815422
Didn't Marineford end with utter defeat, as well as Sabaody? Hardly seems like a first. However, this will definitely be far worse for them if (as some anons have said) it turns out that all their friends and family in East Blue are in danger. Would make for some interesting filler. But chances are Big Mom will go after Fishman Island first, hence Luffy needing to go back there and doing something that will result in Shirley's prediction coming true. Also about Nami getting Zeus, if he does stay with the crew, will that make him a member? I'd like to see what those wikitards do with that.
Anonymous 04/17/18 (Tue) 23:51:37 No. 815571
>>815554
I didn't consider Marineford or Sabaody, thanks for pointing them out. I suppose the difference would be that Marineford was Luffy's personal failure and even then, he was strong enough to accomplish everything he set out to do, but Ace went and got himself killed because he wouldn't get his stupid ass into gear and just leave. There's a lot of strong people present, but most of the major incidents were outside of Luffy's control or focus e.g. Everything that happened to Whitebeard and his fleet.
Sabaody had them get bodied by Kuma and a few high ranking marines, it seems different to me because here they're facing a force unlike anything they've seen before. It's not just a couple strong guys or one powerful leader. Basically every person they've encountered has been a wall and forced them to fight with everything they've got or flee at the realisation that there's no way to push back. Sabaody was a quick defeat at the hands of a guy with one of the most broken fruits in the series. Whole Cake has been a harsh grinding of the entire crew where every victory pales in comparison to their overarching defeat. I wonder if Luffy will ever want his crew broken up again given how chaotic this shit was, it seems like even the full crew would've been hammered and needs more training to stand a chance. Not to say I'm not enjoying this desperate struggle, Whole Cake is still standing as one of my favourite arcs. It's setting up the total chaos that the next few arcs will surely be.
I recall a suggestion that the Strawhats will find a way to escape the territory with Big Mom in pursuit all the way to Wano. I reckon it'd be cool to do this, but with the entire Big Mom fleet on their ass. So they'll get to Wano with a day's grace and have to just keep fighting until they reach Zoro and Co by which point it'll be Wano, Kaido, Big Mom and whatever members of the Strawhat Fleet decide to show up.
Actually, what if the giant crew show up and aid the escape?
Anonymous 04/20/18 (Fri) 10:54:04 No. 816300
What was that about the arc being a flop at the end again?
Anonymous 04/20/18 (Fri) 13:10:14 No. 816324
>>816300
Praying for Jinbe and all to escape.
Anonymous 04/20/18 (Fri) 15:14:40 No. 816359
Man, two shit chapters in a row.
Anonymous 04/20/18 (Fri) 21:48:47 No. 816486
>>816359
At least Brulee was a cute.