/a/ - Animu & Mango

In 2008, watching it for the first time, I was really into it. By the end of the third season, I was very disappointed with it's internal consistency and cast of frankly useless characters. It was before I knew a lot about anime and the themes/tropes/pitfalls of the medium, so I couldn't really expect the power creep like I should have.

All in all, I have some fond memories of the early bits, but as a whole it's pretty shit.

I wasn't too experienced with anime back when I was 14 or so watching it and even I immediately recognized things were going to get really bad after the Soul Society arc ended so I just got the fuck out. When I heard the manga was ending I read the last few chapters and they were pretty bad.

But being completely honest, I did enjoy it when I watched it, 13 or 14 years ago.

>>796734

I dropped it pretty early, I don't know how many episodes I've actually watched. The last thing I remember is Ichigo and /christian/-kun fighting some giant monster and then they went to that feudal japan/shinigami dimension. I only regret that I didn't stay long enough to see Brownboobs or a bit more of her >>796782 .

I think the openings were the best part.

I got into manga at my local library looking at fairys landing, naruto, and bleach. For several years I would pick up the fumes when they got them. Watched the end of the anime a long time ago. I also watched all of season 2 last month on Netflix out of boredom. I still want to finish it, it's been part of my life for too long.

>>796734

Enjoyed it when it was Ghostbusters with swords. Went right to shit when it turned into DBZ with swords.

>>796980

Yep.

I watched the anime first back when I was about fourteen. It was great up until the filler kicked in hard and all the flying techniques showed up. I don't know if I'd like it, going back now. It really was at its strongest when it was simple and just about a guy fighting ghosts with his friends. I'd have preferred the story remain focused on that with no shinigami world or anything. Just a short run concluding with him taking down the guy that ate his mum and then the implication he'd go on protecting the town and realise that TATSUKI WAS BEST GIRL AND THEY FUCKING BLEW IT.

FUCK YOU AND THANK YOU KUBO.

You created the best match for the protagonist and then wasted her, saving her from the garbage that followed. Holy shit.

Bleach live action movie.

>>796734

The anime was good up until the Bount arc. I know it was filler, but things really started to take a turn for the worst once we went to Waco Mundo. The manga went to shit their with troll Aizen and then everything after Aizen's defeat to include how he was defeated felt like a major waste of time. I still don't give the slightest shit about the Quincies or the non-ending they get.

>>798198

Oh fuck off, I thought this was going to be a funny video about something completely unrelated.

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO EXIST?

>>796980

Bleach is a self-contained story that starts with a vague introduction of a subset of spirits that protect humanity and Ichigo's induction and ends with the spiritual awakening of his friends, who turn out to have fairly potent inheritances of their own.

Unfortunately, there was never a sequel, though there is a remarkably extensive fanfiction affiliated with the author after his hopes and dreams were crushed by the corporate print machine.

>>798261

This is the truth. Having Ichigo team up with his friends to take down the hollows that Soul Society can't would be a better story than the mess it turned into.

>>796734

It got real retarded, real quickly. Mostly from jacking off to the protagonist way too fucking hard and fast.

Ichigo was basically trying to speed run DBZ/Yu Yu Hakusho.

Maybe it could have been nice if Ichigo was forced to learn shit over the course of a year, maybe it could have been good if by the time of the Hueco Mundo arc, Ichigo and the red head were still fodder, and the Gosei actually took some significant casualties, justifying the level of fear they had regarding the whatever the fuck the ultimo ghost level was.

Oh well. It was shittier than Naruto, had less development than Naruto.

The only thing it did good at was produce fodder for porn.

>>798302

>The only thing it did good at was produce fodder for porn.

It introduced polka to millions of impressionable young people. That has to count for something, yeah?

>>798302

It didn't help that Ichigo's backstory read like the most retarded fanfiction by the end.

I'm part human and part Shinigami!

And part hollow!

And part Quincy!

And a fullbring user!

I'm sure I'm not even hitting all of them, there. In any case, I can't help but wonder what it'd have been like if Rukia was never taken back and they kept just battling hollows all day.

>>798340

>I can't help but wonder what it'd have been like if Rukia was never taken back and they kept just battling hollows all day.

Probably would have been much better for longer. Without her being kidnapped, it would have stayed on Hollow of the Day storylines like you said, which means rather than plot heavy powerlevel bullshit, it would likely have spent time using each Hollow attack as a way to explore characters emotions and shit, similar to a Sentai series.

>>798230

You don't like live action movie?

>>798302

The real crime was completely sidestepping a Hell arc, and then making it into a shitty non-canon movie no one watched

>>796734

In my opinion there were 2 big quality drops in Bleach.

The first was after the SS arc, the second after the fight with Ulquiorra.

The big issues after the SS arc were the far too big character cast, and that Kubo didn't want to kill "good" characters.

In the final stretch of the Arrancar Saga it felt like Kubo made stuff up week by week.

As a whole I did enjoy early & mid Bleach but the last 20-30 volumes were trash tier.

I do like Kubo's female character designs, so I hope that his new oneshot scheduled for this year is actually good.

The last arc should've been placed before Arrancar arc and everything should've had a faster pace, with lesser focus on side fights.

>>796734

Still kinda like the first third, until the SS arc ends. Most of the female characters are ridiculously hot.

>>800292

I really liked Bleach at the start, but after the SS arc, it felt like everything was a step backwards. You had Ichigo infiltrating and supposedly beating some of the best people in the world. And then there's just some random vampire rip offs that they somehow can't deal with.

It felt like a huge step back with the characters progressing, and it wasn't the only time it happened. It happened when Ichigo lost his powers too.

I usually compare it to DBZ. DBZ had progression, you always felt like the next enemy was much stronger and that all the hard work everyone did to get stronger wasn't enough.

Bleach went in a different direction. You'd see them get stronger, then they'd lose power or they'd face an enemy that didn't seem like such a threat. Invading Soul Society seemed dangerous, like a big deal. Then you have the Bount, which don't seem nearly as dangerous as invading Soul Society.

The Full Bring arc and when Ichigo lost his powers was when I dropped it, for good, minus the fillers I skipped. I hate to resort back to a DBZ analogy, but the whole thing is like if Goku lost all his powers after going super saiyin, became weaker than Krillin, and then did some sort of bullshit to get power back that wasn't even mentioned earlier in the series.

The series would have been so much better if it went more like:

>Ichigo gets shinigami powers, has to flee Soul Society

>Ichigo's friend gets kidnapped and taken to Hueco Mundo

>Ichigo loses his powers

>Ichigo tries to get his powers back

>Ichigo gets his friend back

>Bount target Ichigo and friends, they must evade SS and Bount and defeat the Bount

>SS comes for Rukia, kidnap her, final arc Ichigo and friends work to get Rukia back

Bleach would have been so much better if it went more like that, the show basically blew its load by SS arc, and then Kubo just made shit up because the studio wanted more shows because it was doing well.

>>802363

To be fair, the vampire arc was filter, and thinking of it as anything other than non-canon filler is pure autism.

>>802381

>filter

Meant to say filler, and I specifically re-read the post, before posting just in case I would put a t instead of an l.

Bleach was getting pretty notorious for it's filler, but I guess the zanpaktou rebellion arc was kinda fun.

Really, the best thing to come out of this was all the Rangiku doujins

It got me back into anime, which I didn't realize as originating from Japan until then. So it remains as the first town of my journey.

>>802556

>Really, the best thing to come out of this was all the Rangiku doujins

Some gaymes are solid too. I still play Versus Crusade from time to time, even tho I beat it a thousand times already.

I thought it got increasingly worse.

I remember watching the first season and being very bored with it by the end, I don't remember a whole lot today of it today besides them going to some town or city and fighting shit. That and the(n) cute black haired chick.

I liked the first season, but once they went to the Soul Society, things took a turn for the worse. That's when it became the exact same powerlevel tripe as Dragonball.

>>803844

>early 2000s

It really was a magical time and it was still before the geek/nerd fad kicked in.

>>796734

I liked it at first, but everything after Aizen is just filler as far as I'm concerned.

>>796785

Not true, Rukia is still shit.

It was very good when it was Yu Yu Hakusho 2.0, it became complete shit when it turned into DBZ 0.3

It was such a wasted potential that i'm still sad about it.

1° opening will be forever on my favorite openings of all time.

>>801170

Good night sweet princess

No

I don't remember.

>>817408

Agree with this. Once they kidnapped Rukia, they were stuck on Planet namek on repeat until it ended.

Is Kubo even doing anything at the moment after Bleach? No new one-shots or anything or is he coasting on the residual money he gets from the few idiots who buy Bleach volumes?

>>796734

I liked the early parts of Bleach and have nostalgia for the series since it was an entryway to anime for me, but other than the Soul Society arc it didn't have much for, other than some OP and ED's which were okay.

>>796734

The Bleach anime was the first time I really felt the distinction between filler and canon material so I can't say I look back on it fondly considering I dropped it and just started over from chapter 1. Honestly I think some people though go a bit over the top in trying to hate Bleach. It's actually a pretty brisk read and it's probably better experienced in binges then trying to read it week by week. Not to say I don't have issues but I've read worse.

I never liked Bleach.

>>821712

It's still hurt.

I just miss having MCs that aren't complete faggots.

>>798198

Seems like they are missing a character.