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 No.765048

Why

 No.769870

>>765048

The whole plot of this was such a cliche. Just an overused cheap feeltrip. Oh look, this character is having so much fun LIVING, would be a shame if something happened to her, right? RIIIGHT.

I cried like a bitch, the anime itself was done really good, seiyuu were nice, that trick with different colors - the creators really knew what they're doing. It's still a cheap melodrama that forces you to revive the memories of the people you loved who died stupidly and not giving anything in return. How the fuck did the MC managed to keep cool with all that shit? That's what infuriates me the most. There is always a limit to the arbitrary sufferings that life can enforce upon you.

Shit, shit anime. I hate it.


 No.770181

>>765048

>damn, I'm about to die

>there's this guy I really like

>I only have so much time left

>how should I spend my last days

>oh yeah, let me cuck him, that seems like a good parting gift

>and then, after I've gone, I'll let him know the truth

>this surely will not infuriate him and leave him with regrets for the rest of his life

It's been a while so I may have gotten some of the details wrong, but still, this is a really shit way for her to basically say fuck you to the MC so that she wouldn't feel guilty dying and could give up more easily. They say that those with a strong desire to survive can make it through terrible illnesses alive, and I've seen it happen firsthand. What right does she have to choose what she thinks is best for him and then just give up. It was all so that she wouldn't feel guilty leaving. It had npthing to do with him and in reality he would probably come close to killing himself after finding out the truth. At the very least he would become disfunctional and it would take years for him to recover.


 No.770735

>>765048

Here's what I got out of this anime. To me, I would call this a character based story, rather than plot based. Yes, the plot was cliche. I knew from the first moment she fainted on stage that bitch was gonna die. But god dammit did I not want it to happen. And then the writers gave us hope (her surgery). Maybe she'll make it after all? Fucking nope. God dammit. But the important part was not her surviving or dying, but the fact she chose to go through with the surgery. Showing development, that she wanted to have more time. Growing from giving up on life, to gaining courage and the strength to struggle forward, despite the odds. Which she gained from none other than our MC.

The same can be said for the MC, that the story told his development. Working through grief. Overcoming his fears (his mother, not hearing, etc). Growing from a grief stricken boy, to an emotionally mature man.

Again, character driven anime rather than plot. Any plot serves to grow the characters more.

My personal opinion of this anime was that the writers new exactly what the fuck they were doing and it was done well. I cried at the end of the MC's final performance. Again, I know she was going to die. There was no way she wasn't going to die (gotta grow that MC somehow. Which was foreshadowed rather obviously from his teacher/mother's friend worrying that he would have to go through sorrow to grow). BUT GOD DAMMIT I WANTED HER TO LIVE ANYWAY.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on the matter. The last episode stuck with me for a fucking week and I couldn't bring myself to start anything new until I came to terms with what I just experienced.


 No.770769

>>770735

There is no debate that the anime was good, but it was kind of...pointless? Whether it's a plot-driven story or a character-driven, it has to eventually come to SOMETHING, or else it will be just a tears generator. Yes, the MC has accepted the death of his mother and his crush, but there is nothing mature about accepting death - you can't really do anything else about it. It's not like he was sitting in the corner and crying constantly at the beginning - he had a normal school life, he just was unhappy. And i don't really see why he should be happy at the end of the anime. Maybe they should have given us more screen time with the MC after the death of his girlfriend. As for now - the only thing that has changed is that the MC stopped having his vietnam flashbacks every time he remembers his mother.

I don't know, maybe the whole thing was just "too realistic" for me. I would have liked it better if the MC killed himself - at least, this ending would be happier than what we've got.


 No.770795

>>770769

>Maybe they should have given us more screen time with the MC after the death of his girlfriend

Agreed. They spent half an episode to give us a prologue, showing that the MC had "grown up", but it could use more fleshing out.

> I would have liked it better if the MC killed himself

Should of gone double suicide like she suggested. Would of been happier (oddly enough)

The anime was a feels generator. And if that was its goal, then it did its job. I suppose we're discussing if it was anything more. Is there a moral to the story? Maybe not.

>maybe the whole thing was just "too realistic" for me

It could be in line with realistic literature tendencies which often just show here's how life is and not every one ends up happy while avoiding over romanticizing (However, I think the anime did have some romantic aspects to it i.e cliches [my crush has incurable disease and dies. oh noes])

If we do treat this a realistic piece, then a outstanding "point" of the story is probably just not gonna be there. Much like we often fail to find reasons for the events in our lives, realistic pieces attempt to portray this as well. Not everything happens for a reason. Shit happens. But, this allows for the character to determine their own reasons and justifications for their actions (which you could say is important in a character driven story)

>there is nothing mature about accepting death - you can't really do anything else about it

You can hide away from and avoid the consequences of it. See: MC being a bitch and not being a the best pianist yet. I'd argue there is a maturity in accepting death. It's not an acceptance of the fact of death, rather its the acceptance of the knowledge that anything you work for might some day be gone, and such a loss will no doubt be painful, yet you pursue the thing you might lose anyway. (The ol better to have love and lost then to never love at all). We can see examples of immaturity to death and loss in characters who avoid or refuse to establish connections or pursue things that they might lose, as they fear the pain of the loss that might or might not occur.

>he just was unhappy

This is generally a bad thing. If we want to go grand scale here, just about every philosopher ,in regards to the "purpose of life", deems man's purpose to "be happy". Of course, what is happiness and how it is achieved are a bit more debated (ok. more than a bit). No one likes to be unhappy. Further, no one likes to see others be unhappy (under normal circumstances. You don't want your dog to be sad, do you anon?) Showing the unhappiness of the MC is really all the writers needed to do because we (the audience) will want to see how our poor MC (which we like and empathize with) gains his happiness. Then consequently we gain happiness vicariously (through our empathy, feeling MC's feels, not just sympathizing.) Considering this to be true, it would explain THE FUCKING HOLE LEFT IN MY STOMACH from the death of MC's crush. Because I empathize with MC, his feels are my feels, when he wants crush, I want crush. AND THEN CRUSH IS TAKEN AWAY FROM US. For me, because of the explained phenomenon above, I felt not only sadness, but grief, for honestly a few days after finishing this anime. BECAUSE GOD DAMMIT THEY MADE ME LIKE HER. Which I'd argue is exactly what the writers were trying to do.

As for MC growth, from beginning to end, we'd have to analyze the FUCK out of the last half of the last episode to fully gauge it. It was there, just condensed (as already discussed). What caused the writers to do that, I'm not sure (deadline, length of series, budget, etc).

Anywho. Glad I watched it. I felt healthy sadness for the first time from watching. Cried for the first time from a film media (movie, show, etc)


 No.771049

I know that the anime isn't that well received on /a/ for being melodramatic but I still enjoyed it a lot. It did what it wanted to do and it did it very well.

Best girl is Tsubaki for sure.


 No.771341

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>>771049

>Best girl is Tsubaki for sure

Tsubaki was kind of missing what the MC was all about, what he wanted and what he needed. Kaori got it right, but she was too busy pushing her own interests.

The MC's colleagues - that little girl and Emi - were the best girls in the show. Too bad Emi didn't get to know the MC that much, she was perfect.




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