/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>735988

I honestly hope to see mineta develop more after the current manga arc. It's very interesting to me to see the "haha he's a huge pevert" character shown to be competent or even worthwile as a person.

>>736020

Makoto looks like the kind who sucks all the dicks.

>>736020

I wonder about the first seven heroes of America. How much do you bet one of them had a fucking eagle head?

>>736028

>How much do you bet one of them had a fucking eagle head?

I bet they just ripped off both the Justice League and the Avengers

>>736044

Chinpo vacuum.

I thought vigilantes was going to get boring now that they're done with Stain but all this backstory is great.

It also means they don't need to drop this info in the main series, so no weird exposition chapters there.

>>736027

That is her quirk, vacuum throat.

Kind of like Thirteen but sucking through the mouth.

>>736022

Blame Shounen Jump for creating an industry that's basically slave labor. Scratch that, slaves got more down time then mangaka get.

>>736047

Its been ages since I've seen that

>>736108

Fuck, I forgot the period. Please don't ban me.

>>736074

Slaves generally could buy their freedom.

>>736074

>>736156

Slaves generally had plenty of free time. It's just that they couldn't do anything other than hang out at their workplace.

At least in the kind of slavery south american colonizers practiced, in places like rome or greece it was more like a job you couldn't refuse.

>>736238

I swear man, if we get fucked for another week. It'll be a real fucking upset.

>>736238

It's going to be that isn't it.

Can't show the final fight without know what happened to the girls in the meantime.

I expected the All Might exam to be more exciting, other than the ricocheting bodies I felt the manga did a better job. I also expected Toga's voice to be more nasal.

>>736278

I'm guessing you have to watch/read both for the full experience. In the episode they emphasized more on the hurt both of them went through. Mostly Katsuki.

Quick Question:

Do all the authors for a Shonen series start out seriously ill or does it progress until they are chronically sick due to all the stress of being a writer?

I remember Bleach author and Naruto author (and his wife) getting sick almost every other month. Like having to go to the hospital sick. And One Piece definitely also has had its issues with health. Seems Boku writer shares the same fate. Something is seriously wrong over there in Japan

PS: It could also be the fumes coming over from China/Korea? The smog?

>>736419

>Do all the authors for a Shonen series start out seriously ill or does it progress until they are chronically sick due to all the stress of being a writer?

The latter, a mangaka's work schedule is beyond insane, at least for the ones on weekly release

>>736421

It doesn't help when they also get an anime series and several spinoffs to coordinate with at the very least. I get the feeling that Hori is probably pretty involved with those, compared to some other mangaka/series.

>>736425

Considering how much relevant backstory Vigilante's had, he must have had at least some input on it.

>>736419

>Do all the authors for a Shonen series start out seriously ill or does it progress until they are chronically sick due to all the stress of being a writer?

Being a mangaka for Shounen Jump is probably one of the most stressful in the world, and I'm seriously not kidding. Oda from One Piece created a math formula to calculate how much freetime the average Mangaka gets in a week, at least when working for Shounen Jump. He estimates on average, he gets about three hours total of free time for every week. During the latter half of Naruto's run time, the writer was asked in an interview how he hard it was to do Naruto by himself, and he responded that he was physically incapable of doing it at his age, and that he wouldn't be able to without his assistant. People always ask why Manga is so much better than western comics, and they shoot off all sorts of answers. But the fact of the matter is that most well-known mangaka are actively killing themselves with the amount of effort they put out.

>>736419

They basically work them to death as slaves. With Boruto a burning trash fire and One Piece on steep decline then they need this badly. Which means 20 hour works days for this guy,

Just finished watching the latest anime episode. While it overall was pretty anticlimatic: I did absolutely LOVE the visuals/quality whenever All Might is on the screen. His glaring blue eyes really strike fear and inspiration every time. I'm not joking about that part.

So for Deku's powers: It seems he has reached another "ceiling" so to speak. He learned to move with his powers and use his powers all throughout his body but he doesn't seem to know, yet, how to "properly use" his Quirk like All Might does. For examples: The wind punch, stomping the ground for a shockwave, breaking objects deliberately to use them as a buffer/shield. He just seems to have figured out movement and will need another special teacher or life experience to figure to use his powers more efficiently.

On the side of Bakugo: I was pleasantly surprised. There is no doubt in my mind his "POWER" gap ceiling is crazy high. He moves with his Quirk. He uses them, as in the case where he rocket-ed Deku, for practical purposes that are outside the norm of regular thinking. He is quite versatile honestly. He has a "Never say die" attitude which is akin to Vegeta that keeps me smirking

Overall, I just was disappointed with All Might IF he let them win. It kind of seemed that way just like how EraserHead let his team win. All Might was either badly injured and knew his Quirk's time limit would run out soon so didn't want to further his use (as seen by the swirly vapors around him) or he just saw that they badly needed this win to keep mentally sane. In regards to his powers though: I'm still shocked every time he demonstrates something else of his physical prowess. Bakugo understood All Might was "overwhelming" and hearing him say that was truly frightening to hear. Knowing that All Might is maybe at 50% of his original power and even less with his "top speed" and he is still overwhelming. Truly frightening. Really shows what is to come in the future in regards to villains and the FV.

I just hope the whole Bakugo needing to be saved by Deku shtick isn't a recurring theme throughout the rest of the anime. Akin to Vegeta using his overwhelming power to make Freeza go higher in power. Or Vegeta being a key factor in defeating Cell with his overwhelming power ki blast. But it took Goku & Gohan to "save" him in the end. I hope this isn't a constant: Bakugo takes the villain to maximum output with his overwhelming power BUT he will need to be saved or else he will die. Thus enter Deku with his "saving grace" powerup which puts him at 110% maximum output and saves the day.

At this point in time I am definitely a Deku fanboy. I'll admit. But Bakugo is really making a strong push in being my favorite honestly.

>>736876

>On the side of Bakugo: I was pleasantly surprised.

Throughout the entire story, Bakugo is portrayed as being striaght up better than Deku, and it adds a LOT to the story. Deku has a ton of strengths, but they aren't pure combat ability, but Bakugo seems to always be ahead of him because he is that good, and while the story never focuses on it, he is definitely always trying to improve.

>I just hope the whole Bakugo needing to be saved by Deku shtick isn't a recurring theme

My theory: By the end of the main story, at least by the time they graduate UA it will be clear that Bakugo is a better fighter than Deku, and Deku will never be able to truly beat him. However, Deku will show that despite that, he is a better *Hero* than Bakugo, and they will come to some sort of truce, since both will have proven they are better than the other at what they were working toward.

>>736876

read the manga

>>736881

>it will be clear that Bakugo is a better fighter than Deku, and Deku will never be able to truly beat him.

Or he becomes another butthurt second place just like Endeavor.

>>736884

But that would be lame

>>736881

No, Deku is going to have a moment where he truly surpasses Bakugou. But Deku isn't going to stay at that point for much longer. He'll lose his powers before the manga ends through some noble sacrifice.

>>736915

Would be a nice touch. Sort of like how Ed gave up alchemy at the end of FMA.

I may even think that All For One is linked to One For All and that if one dies the other one dies with it. Sort of like a shared/paired up link Quirk. So once Deku kills the FV he may also lose his powers just naturally and revert to being a normal human again. It'd, to me, also be a nice touch if he became the Principal at the school at the end if he lost his powers. Because, even though, he lost his powers that doesn't mean he can't guide and teach the next generation of heroes. At heart he is a great guy and an amazing type of person who sees inside a person's soul to see their strengths and weaknesses. His analytical skills would so put him at the top when it comes to being Principal.

>hear

hair*

>>736955

>If one dies the other dies with it

Read the manga

>>737041

Sorry, i don't talk McDonaldese.

>>737124

Speaking honestly, it's a pretty loose, wide burger. Seems more like a five-guys deal, or maybe a non-chain big burger. Something you would definitely use two hands and every finger for.

>>737007

>>737035

>>736982

I don't get what people see in her.

Yanderes a shit.

>>737306

Very wrong opinion.

>>737379

You'd think they would have ended on this episode and then have the supermarket encounter be the first episode of the new season or something.

Unless I'm understanding this poorly and they're going to do the school trip arc as a finale to this season.

>>737471

I'm guessing they will end on a bit of a cliffhanger when they arrive at the summer camp.

>>737379

Don't stick your dick in crazy, anon

>>737529

The similarities are only superficial. Kuwabara is better, but he's not a better Bakugou.

>>737529

But that isn't correct. He was never better at Yusuke at fighting. He was always 2nd tier

>>737529

I'd honestly say Bakugo is the one perfecting the archetype. It's interesting that he's canonically better than the MC the entire time, and will consistently win fights against him. His problem only comes from being unable to see past the dude who's head he is actively trying to cave in.

>>735988

His hair has got to be a reference to cockatoos

>>737686

>His problem only comes from being unable to see past the dude who's head he is actively trying to cave in.

What do you mean by that? His whole dream is to also become #1 Hero. Are you saying that in a [Beat the villain or Save the hostages] type of situation he would kill the villain and leave the hostages to die because he is actively trying to cave his head in?

I can see that being Bakugo's character right now but I can't honestly see him being so heartless when civillians are involved or those in need and are weaker. He always seemed to me to be a person who would protect the weak in their time of need. Are you saying he wouldn't in a heated battle?

>>737717

I don't mean Bakugo is heartless, I mean he gets tunnel vision. In his a Deku's first fight, he goes apeshit on Deku and forgets about the objective. If it had been down to a straight fight, Deku would have gotten annihilated. However, the fight wasn't just about beating the other person, it was about securing/defending an objective. In a real-life hostage situation, Bakugo would likely refuse to not fight a dude, but he would make sure other people were worrying about the hostage, but he'd refuse to let anyone else take down the criminal who dared think he was able to fight him.

So this is the new Naruto for a new generation.

>>737875

Well, yeah

But so far it hasn't shit all over its balls

>>737717

In a heated situation, IRL, I can see him being a bit between what you and >>737720 are saying.

But it depends on the situation. Like what he's saying, in a real hostage situation, if there were other heroes around then he'd basically force them to take care of the hostage, by running off to fight the villain.

If there weren't other heroes around, I could see him staying there to protect them, albeit begrudgingly and with potential abuse still. Really that last bit all depends on what he learned in the remedial class, with Todoroki.

He's an arrogant prick, but he's also grown a bit, just subtly. And when the villains have shown up he's always fought against them to the bitter end. I forget exactly how the field trip played out, before his capture, did he more or less put aside his ego, to cooperate with his classmates? If he did, that'd be a pretty big indicator that he understands when it's time to cut the crap and just be a hero.

If not, and he was acting the same way in that situation, then yeah he's a fucking dick beyond repair.

Though another bit to that could also be when he tells Deku to not butt in, when he's getting captured. The obvious interpretation is that he's telling Deku he's better than him, and will prove it by getting out of that without him.

But it's also probably a subconscious thing, too. He says it's purely out of pride, but his ridiculous desire to do things alone could very well be because he knows people like Deku will follow him, and get themselves hurt.

I mean, it makes sense. If you think about, Bakugou's prideful actions are always to show he's number one, yeah, but at the same time he's the kind of egotistical maniac who hates seeing people not give it their all against him. He doesn't want slackers, he wants you to be the absolute best you can be, albeit so he can crush you at 100% and show he's the best, but he still wants you to not waste a single bit of your potential.

Supporting that last point, when he fights Deku that one time at night, he starts talking not about Deku's weakness, not as a personal insult, but as a

>If you're going to succeed the strongest man in the world, you better at least be able to kick my ass

And he's not wrong. For all his athletic prowess, Bakugou is still just a really athletic teenager, in terms of physical quality. If the successor to the world's greatest hero can't even beat some highschooler, how the hell is he going to beat something like OfA?

TL;DR Bakugou's a prick, but part of it is covering subconscious shit with him. And even if he's only doing it to prove he's better, he still wants people to live up to their full potential.

>>738384

Bakugou is shit and I'll never accept him as a hero.

But what if izuku was a grill?

>>738544

>>738599

this is all really good ideas I'm seeing here.

I guess this is why Bakugou is as much of a focus as he is, since he's the foil of Deku in every way, while both of them still aim for the same goal.

Hell, adding to what you're saying, it's also indicative of what Bakugou lacks, if he's been pushed off to the side, instead of having wound up partaking in this mission, like Kirishima, Tsuyu, etc, have.

He never displayed the proper characteristics to actually register as someone "heroic" to every adult he's met, so as a result he was never guided towards the opportunity, nor is he even really "worthy" of it, since he lacks the necessary self sacrifice that characters like Deku and Mirio have in spades.

>quality

quietly*

>>738629

>Reminder that he still doesn't have some rival villain like Deku has Shiggy, Tenya has Stain and Kiri has Rappa I guess.

Don't forget Todoroki and his father.

>>738660

>his father

Implying its not going to be Dabi.

>>738693

>Dabi

Who?

>>739508

<Filler confirmed

I guess SJ can't help but milk a successful franchise.

>>739536

You really think that's gonna continue? I was thinking SJ might have learned their lesson, and were going to put 1 year in between each season of anime to keep it from reaching FILLER:THE ANIME status but I guess not. Then again, how much content will Illegals make since it's now weekly? We might be getting alternating seasons of those two plots now.

>>739561

>You really think that's gonna continue?

Before we talk about filler caused by Manga and Anime production rates, let's look instead at how much the anime has left to cover. We have the entirety of the training camp, we have the arc where Bakugo gets captured, then UNITED STATES OF SMASH, and so on. There's a lot of ground. Also, Hori is in on this from the ground level, I think, so most filler will at least be sensible and canon - A great compromise would be to have Illegals episodes as filler content, maybe, if they can get around that HUGE time era dissonance.

>>739572

I do have some hope, because Hori has yet to really fuck up anything at all with his manga, but if we start getting tons of filler, I will expect the quality to drop. I think that if they utilize Illegals every other season, and then use filler episodes with original characters to pad out the world, we might actually get a good end result.

>>739584

There's plenty of potential. Unlike most series, Hori's world is richly detailed, with concrete rules, but at the same time he has to gloss over a lot of stuff, to keep the plot moving forward and brisk.

Tsuyu's episode of her internship is one that makes a great amount of sense, and is actually really natural to see in the plot. After all, Izuku's not the only one interning.

Same goes for the expansion of the other classmates fights, which were just a few pages at most in the manga. When you're writing a comic from the ground up, you NEED to keep moving it forward. Not so much when remaking it, and the audience already knows.

One Punch Man being a great example of how to do this kind of shit, and hopefully Hero Academia will expand on that further.

Just showing shit that makes sense, like Mumen Rider helping with the evacuation.

Hell, it could probably help out with one major gripe I've got with the manga at this point.

The other characters stories being basically irrelevant/trivial to Izuku's. That's not to say they're nonexistant, but expansions like Tsuyu's would really help flesh out the characters, beyond pretty boring NPCs.

Like, Kirishima had a flashback recently, to something Bakugou said, but we weren't really there for the conversation, iirc. If we were, it didn't really leave too big of an impression.

You can very easily "pad it out" by taking the time to insert shit like that. That one specific example would do a lot to humanize Bakugou, too. Showing him able to just hold a conversation with someone, and encourage them.

I digress, in the case of Hero Academia, I'm not particularly worried about filler or overtaking the manga.

Though it is worth being adamant that if Hero Academia jumps the shark or drops the ball, it's going to hit it hard. Specifically because it's just been so consistently good.

>>736022

Go Nagai isn't dead yet, you're thinking of Ken Ishikawa.

Where the fuck is the latest chapter? Is Horikoshi dead?

>>739760

Fallen Angels isn't translating anymore. So the wait will be increased as they were the ones providing the base scripts.

>>739508

I expected this, but I gotta say, that's a trove of reaction GIFs.

>>739793

>not translating anymore

What happened?

>>739536

>Well, the filler we've seen thus far was pretty solid.

????

It was fucking garbage.

More people dying, oh baby.

>>739946

RIP ;_;7

>20%

What was his previous record again?

>Chisaki's bullets confirmed for total and permanent quirk removal

Goddamn.

>Nighteye gets fucking skewered

They are really not holding back right now.

>>739971

10%

>>739983

Probably.

Overhaul as a whole, has functioned as a means to raise the stakes of the story, as not even AfO actually wound up killing anyone in his fight with All Might.

It's weird, in hindsight AfO vs All Might seems like childs play, by comparison to what we're getting now.

>>739983

the black panel he saw was his own immediate futurehe ded

>>740017

Strictly speaking, AfO was somewhere between an African warlord and organized crime when he was at the top of his game. Plenty of grit in that. It was only when All Might defeated him that he became obsessed with tearing down him and society at large.

>>740317

On the other hand(heh), creepy music was on point.

>>739985

>as not even AfO actually wound up killing anyone

That's because All Might was there.

All Might isn't around anymore.

>>739985

Wait what? How did AfO not kill anyone with all the destruction he caused during United States of Smash fight? Everything was turned into rubble in a huge area.

I swear to god, if Deku seriously manages to change the future I'm gonna be mad. There's no reason for him to not be counted in that dude's quirk.

>>740548

I'm conflicted, because the shit awful schedule are why manga is so much better than western comics. No one does it unless they're SUPER driven. A huge amount of the western shit is people making comics as a fucking hobby. They chuck out 20 pages in an afternoon and they hit the bar with some friends. Also, said "slave driving" bullshit is not only for mangaka, it's in the entire anime/manga industry. People that draw the inbetween frames in anime make so little money, there is actually a charity to house and support them while they try and get into the industry with a job that can actually support them.

>>740548

Looked that guy up out of curiosity, looks like he hosts a whole site dedicated to archiving old, out of print manga, that's all free to look at/download.

Even pays the creators with the ad revenue apparently.

Seems like a pretty cool dude.

>>740528

>pic 2

You forgot to leave in the "It was a logical ruse!" text.

>>740550

On the other hand, it's corrupt and inhumane. Would increasing the pay at least be better?

>>740584

Since the subs don't say logical ruse exactly it doesn't have the same feeling.

>>740584

>On the other hand, it's corrupt and inhumane. Would increasing the pay at least be better?

For mangaka pay isn't an issue. Make something good and you'll make more pay than some multinational businesses. But for the frame animators, yeah, it's fucking atrocious what they do to them.

I've lost my place in the manga awhile ago.

Does anyone know which chapter they meet up with all the other schools for a tournament?

>>740584

>Would increasing the pay at least be better?

There are several jobs out there that will fucking destroy you, but people do it anyways, for short periods of times, because they pay well, as transition jobs. They slave away in terrible conditions in an off-shore rig for a few months, make some bank, and then move back to a more normal life, with a shittier paying job. This is not the case for the frame animators and other people like that, they get both the awful work conditions and the shitty pay parts with no prospect out, so I'd say yeah, better pay would probably be a fair thing to do.

>>740600

Chapter 103. I wouldn't spoonfeed like that, but trying to find the chapter while avoiding spoilers would probably be a bitch.

>>740603

Thanks a ton, I was over shooting by at least 20 chapters.

>>740620

Man. I remember when I had the same problem with One Piece and it was so bad that I literally couldn't remember the order of events surrounding where I left off at all. Like, I forgot the order of arcs entirely.

>>740621

I feel like in One Piece it's easier to do that, since many arcs literally have no relation to other events a lot of the time.

>>739999

That's not what I got from it, I thought he was trying to look in to Overhaul's future and they aren't going to reveal what he saw.

>>736884

It looks like it is exactly what will happen, Endeavor kind of gives me the "just one step away from spiteful villain" vibe.

>>740797

Why do people even like Toga? She is just a shittier Mei.

>>738599

It would've been neat if he lost every fight that was only for his own benefit, but he already beat the hypnosis guy. (can't be fucked to remember his name) Are there any others?

Him beating brainwashing dude was kinda necessary to remind you that in a world of normalfags, Deku would be a badass. But no, I'm pretty sure he hasn't succeeded anywhere else, unless I'm forgetting something

>>740935

Would the first segment of the test for getting the provisional hero license be another example? since theres that bit at the end where one student says "please I'm only a student, I need to get this hero license" and deku says "me too".

>>740938

I suppose it would, but the setup is a bit different since it's a giant free-for-all. But in the end, he still won a fight for selfish reasons.

>>741131

We already have that, friendo. Do you not know about our lord and master, Knuckleduster?

Just started reading the manga a few hours ago from the point where s2 of the manga left off.

...god damn, S3 and onward are going to be amazing. Also, holy shit, this last arc has been DARK AS SHIT.

>>739946

The biggest thing I overlooked about this, is that this is Horikoshi's way of setting a time limit on the fight.

20% is too much, but only by a bit. Kind of like punching a sandbag with stuff just a bit too hard for a human fist to take.

I'm intrigued to see where this goes, since it's not a strict "all or nothing" situation like Muscular, or any other time he's used 100%.

Also to put it in perspective, he's 2.5x his regular, Full Cowl, self.

My guess as to where this ends up, if Deku winds up having to pummel Overhaul into submission, being that we end up with Deku not quite as destroyed as a 100% smash, but we're dragged through the mud, witnessing him slowly approach that, instead of just having a one and done moment.

>>741343

An argument for capes

>>741343

>>741312

Its been the arc with the most build up but we are getting there and didn't actually get an uphill fight for the heroes, in fact they kinda dominated until THEY got outplayed. And it definitely getting more shit with Deku vs Chisaki.

Last sentence wasn't calling it shit.

>>740805

What part of "cute little psychopath" is so hard to understand?

In other news, I'm having a devil of a time finding Stain's slow, menacing theme (not Hero Goroshi, just to clarify). Did they take it down or something? This is closer, but not quite it.

>>741527

Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Also, she's not cute, she's insane.

>>741343

Honestly, I find half the lines utterly forced and un-organic, usually having deeper meaning in a context the character cannot know.

Like Deku yelling how he'll bend fate all of a sudden, because Nighteye was THINKING (not talking) about fate and inevitability.

>>737710

>Lived next to a small patch of natural scrub with big gum trees as a kid.

>Every summer morning flocks of them would scream like 20 pack a day smokers over my house.

Life was suffering.

>>741640

Not saying all of it is gold, but that line in specific really tickles my fancy. It's this perfect level of cheesiness while being dead serious. It's also kind of a light "fuck you" to the past 20 years of movies demanding heroes be more and more realistic. In particular, "The Incredibles" have made "NO CAPES!" into a meme, and people always laugh about how unrealistic it is to wear a capes. Mirio's specifically stating he doesn't wear the cape for combat effectiveness or any logical reason, he wears a cape because that what heroes do. And I fucking love it

>>741681

> It's also kind of a light "fuck you" to the past 20 years of movies demanding heroes be more and more realistic

When Hori manages to give one final middle finger to cape deconstructions, he'll automatically become the best cape writer of the last 20 years

>>736014

There really is alot more to Mineta than being the joke pervert character. He out-maneuvered Midnight, he helped glue a bunch of aquatic villains together with Midoriya, he disabled a bunch of robots off-panel during the entrance exam and he's cunning enough to piggyback on Momo during the race. He has the tools, but he needs to be in a group for him to make the most of his ability.

>>740550

I feel like there's more to it than just schedule as to why this manga is better than western comics. There's little interesting character building or story telling in Marvel anymore, it's mostly identity shit, not understanding their consumer base and nontroversies like that dumb milkshake thing. DC seems to have swayed away from the identity politics part but it still have to rebuild their trust with buyers. Meanwhile, we have Boku no Hero Academia and we have good pacing, character building and build-up to big things and it being on a semi-regular basis is the cherry on top. Hero Academia not someones cup of noodles then they have Tiger and Bunny, One Punch Man and a bunch of other old but gold stuff.

>>742185

I can't think of any bad Japanese original capeshit but I'm not thinking about it too hard.

>>742189

You could file "Samurai Flamenco" under that, but I feel like doing so misses the point of the show. Also, I'm not sure if I would classify that as Capeshit, since I feel that Sentai Squads and Kamen Rider are a slightly different genre.

>>742193

I loved samflam but definitely would not classify it as capeshit.

>>742185

I have your answer:

Western comics are written by more than one person. Superman's been written, as a character, by over a dozen people. Same flies for any character. With all that pingponging, no one can really develop anything past a broad setting and single arcs. That's why the MCU is working out so wonderfully, it's taking the comics release style (Character arc, character arc, character arc, CROSSOVER BONANZA, repeat)and applying it to movies, probably with a very small writing team. Then you look at comics and you have loads and loads of people making loads of stories to supply the content load for this huge market.

Like... Imagine if suddenly Oda wrote a side story involving Deku in the future, as an adult, fighting somalian quirked pirates. Or Muira doing a Stain comic. Or Ken Akamatsu writing an Invisigirl story. I could go on, but my basic point is this:

Mangas are written and drawn by a team of one, two, or three people, maximum five not counting assistants.

American comics are done by huge ass fucking teams.

>>742222

The problem is that the market isn't that huge anymore. They need to fire most of those people because they are shit at what they do. I'm no artist but the art in Marvel is so variable it's hard to understand how many of them even have jobs. American comics needs a ruthless downsizing that has the ones staying winning the gladiator contest for whose most dedicated.

This fucking chapter! How brutal is Hori gonna get with us!? He hasn't held back this entire fucking arc.

Also, loving Deku's new Smash. Very fitting.

>>742478

>the Deku's smash series

Oy cunt i'll SMASH ye bloody face swer on me mum.

>>742479

UNITED KINGDOM SMASH!

>>740797

>>>>>Toga's VA is a cake that also does eroge voices

if they use 999999999999999999999999999999999 yen to pay her with the budget then get ready for berserk 2016

>>741681

No, ti's too cheesy. More importantly, it's STUPID, since it come out of nowhere.

Sometimes cheesy lines have a place - like for example All Might doing that "eye V" symbol in the 12th episode. It makes sense because All Might deliberately acts that way.

Dekus is a reply to a internal monolouge he should NOT have ascess to. Therefore it is bad writing. Period.

>>742501

>too cheesy

>in a cape series

Excuse you?

>>742501

>Dekus is a reply to a internal monolouge

Did you entirely miss the point where I was talking about a line an entirely different character said that had nothing to do with anything involving Deku?

This is one of the few times I want the mc to half ass the fight and beat the shit out of this weeks bad guy, just end the arc goddamn.

>>742684

>The vision he saw was Deku AND him dying

>Deku will change the future

>There is no narrative purpose for this to be possible

I hope this isn't the moment when the writing begins to decline.

>>742696

Deku isn't changing shit, Froppy is.

>>742698

What if it's one of Invisitit's powers to be invisible to fate as well?

>>742696

Nighteye's quirk isn't 100% accurate though. Maybe he saw Deku dying years later.

>>742789

>Nighteye's quirk isn't 100% accurate though.

Mother fucker, it's been repeatedly said that if he sees something happen with his quirk, it WILL come to pass. Much like Oingo Boingo in Jojo. He can change the circumstances, but the end result always happens. Plus, he can choose how far in the future he sees. If he looks five minutes into the future and sees deku die to overhaul, then in the next five minute, Deku is supposed to die to Overhaul.

>>742794

>implying it isn't toga crossdressing as deku who dies

>>742798

Wait, that'd actually be really good.

>>742798

>>742801

Could Twice send in some clones?

>>742802

All I ask is that it isn't Deku that changes "fate," because there's nothing to hint he's capable of that.

>>742812

So after all the line about him being "the greatest hero ever" is just a red herring about him sacraficing himself and being "the greatest hero ever" to someone like Eri or Tintin for it?

I'd dig it

>>742813

He'd need to give OfA to someone before dying to fulfill the "greatest hero" statement, but it could work.

>>742814

>gives ofa to lord explosion murder

>lord explosion murder upgrades his quirk from explosive sweat to NUCLEAR sweat

>greatest hero is born

BAKUGOU IS SHIT!

SHIIIIIT!

>>742817

Bakugo is literally the penultimate "rival type" character.You can fuck off.

>>742822

Bakugo is, like all 'rivals', literal infested shit. He is just a faggot bully who didn't do anything to deserve any praise besides being a faggot and ruining everyone's lives, then not feel any remorse about it nor even pay for it.

Rivals are shit and all of them deserve to eat shit.

>>742826

He never pretended to be Batousai's friend not made a life with him. Neither they pretended to be friends.

>>742828

Because he's the most basic joke character with no substance, and would be better off dead.

>>742824

>>742828

>>742829

None of the characters are any good.

They have little to no personal character motivation.

The only interesting thing about them is their character design.

The whole story is just a shallow GOOD VS EVIL borefest.

The world itself doesn't make any sense.

If everyone has superpowers, then the world should've changed drastically.

If everyone has superpowers, then there's no need for superheroes, since everyone can use their powers to save themselves.

If everyone has superpowers, there couldn't be any peace since certain superpowers can be used to circumvent established laws.

And he superheroes aren't even necessary, because :

[1] The world is peaceful as fuck.

[2] Natural disasters aren't frequent.

[3] The villains are weak little babies, being repeatedly defeated by a bunch of students.

[4] People could just save themselves since they have superpowers.

[5] The police force is still present

If the world is as chaotic as One Punch Man's it would be believable to have an established hero association.

But in a world as peaceful as BnHA? Nope, doesn't make any sense at all.

Heck, where do the heroes even get their salary from?

It is fairly evident that the mangaka didn't put much thought in the worldbuilding.

This breaks my immersion easily, and is one of the reasons why I couldn't get into BnHA.

BnHA is still good for mindless fun, but don't kid yourself : this series has shit writing.

>>742831

>But in a world as peaceful as BnHA? Nope, doesn't make any sense at all.

>peaceful

I'm a little groggy so I'll leave the rest of this whiny hash to someone else, but did you forget the existence of All For One and how Japan was described during his reign? Because that shit wasn't peaceful, and in fact the very reason Heroic Society came about as it did, in reaction to everything going to Hell in a handbasket. Things are peaceful now because All Might worked crazy hard to fix it and gave AFO one hell of a hit. Did all of this just pass you by?

>>742827

>pretended

What are you jabbering about, nigger?

>>742481

EUROPA SMASH

>>742832

>the existence of All For One and how Japan was described during his reign?

>did all of this just pass you by?

Yes, that did just pass me by, since we see nothing of his supposed reign of terror.

Are there any lasting effects of his reign of terror on society? Nope.

Do the public and other villains care much about his existence? Nope.

He even failed to kidnap a kid for fuck's sake.

He was continuously shown as incompetent, but we are told that he's this big threat.

Yeah, sure mr mangaka.

>>742832

>What are you jabbering about, nigger?

The usual rival story: The rival is doing shit and making MC's life a living hell. Fuck, he might even kill his dog or any other borderline villanous shit, then fight, just get bruised when the MC wins and dedicates his life to defeat him, just to eventually act like friends with the rival being a gay tsundere and pretending that all the shitty things the rival did never happened.

Saito never pretended to be good nor pretended he was Kenshi's friend. He was a soldier who just had contact with Kenshi for work.

>>742651

Yep,

if not Deku then at least have Tsuyu or the girls one shot Onahole and use it to appeal to tumblr because strong women I guess, but for the love of god Kohei, end the arc.

>>742831

>>742838

Hard to believe it is a serious post and not bait. But I'll give it benefit of the doubt.

>None of the characters are any good.

>They have little to no personal character motivation.

Most characters are good. And they have solid motivation with good conflicts.

Besides obvious Deku wanting to become proper hero and Bakugo wanting to become strongest, Todoroki and Iga are really good. Todoroki wants to suprass his father, but does so without usual angst. Iga wants to become model hero like his brother. But he is naive and inexperienced so often falls into one trap or another. He still strives to be a good leader despite his mistakes. It is not much, but with main focus on fights and action it is pretty good.

>The only interesting thing about them is their character design.

>The whole story is just a shallow GOOD VS EVIL borefest.

It puts more then enough detail to make it good

and gives proper motivation to both heroes and villains. That's far more then most GOOD VS EVIL shows. So it is not deep but far from shallow.

>The world itself doesn't make any sense.

>If everyone has superpowers, then the world should've changed drastically.

>If everyone has superpowers, then there's no need for superheroes, since everyone can use their powers to save themselves.

>If everyone has superpowers, there couldn't be any peace since certain superpowers can be used to circumvent established laws.

The world makes sense. Simply because normal people have so little power, it does not matter if they have it or not. Most people have powers like "keeping your food at room temperatur" and nothing more. Cantrips, basically. Extremely few have something good.

Combined with prohibition on quirk usage in public places, it not hard to keep peace at all.

Especially with numerous trained heroes with strong quirks and very organised Heroic Society. Which was created as response to villains and All For One.

>Are there any lasting effects of his reign of terror on society? Nope.

>Do the public and other villains care much about his existence? Nope.

The biggest lasting effect is Hero society itself. With strong quirks it was easy to fix most of the damage he has done, and they had more than enough time for it. Villains don't care about All for One because he was defeated and is thus is bad, and again a lot of time passed. But villains do care about All might. And that is one of the main plot points.

His incompetence is mostly because of his injuries and the fact he avoided using his full power so his disciple would act on his own.

I also see no problem in him failing to kidnap strongest kid from the best class of most famous Hero Academy with very tight security and very strong and experienced teachers.

It was never supposed to be easy, and he did not participate that much at all.

>[1] The world is peaceful as fuck.

>[2] Natural disasters aren't frequent.

>[3] The villains are weak little babies, being repeatedly defeated by a bunch of students.

>[4] People could just save themselves since they have superpowers.

Hero Killer. This should be enough, but Ill explain. There are plenty of villains who are strong enough to beat most heroes easily. Heroes with strong quirks are rare. Just like villains, but most villains were laying low because of All might. MHA students can defeat strong villains because of good teamwork and very strong quirks. No problem here either.

>[5] The police force is still present

Police focuses on investigation. They have left all fighting to heroes. So they don't matter much against aggressive active villains.

>>742591

You were replying to me and the post chain started specifically mentioning the Deku example.

Obviously communications broke down somewhere.

>>742816

That would be a sight to see.

How fast would Illida be if he got OfA?

>>742844

What are the terrible, horrible things Bakugo did?

>>742857

Being a bully, an ungrateful faggot and a bad childhood friend.

>>742858

This is why I think deku should have been a grill, that way Bakugou's attitude would have just been explained as him being a shy faggot and Deku having the hots for Bakugou instead of this weird relationship they have right now.

>>742860

The thing that makes it so sad and makes Bakugou such an irredemable asshole is that they were really good friends in their childhood and the fucking asshole got too full of himself he began bulling the quirkless boy who had been always with him.

Being an insecure faggot isn't an excuse.

>>742863

>is that they were really good friends in their childhood

I don't recall this ever being shown. The way it seemed to me is that Izuku kept hovering around the dude almost sucking his dick and Bakugou never told him to fuck off.

>>742864

It's show multiple times that they were good friends. Even after he got his quirk, Bakugo still wasn't as big an asshole to him up until that time Deku tried to help him out of the river. That's when Bakugo started going apeshit.

>>742884

Mind posting screens of those moments? Pretty much all I remember is Deku going WOW NICE QUIRK FAGGOT and that's about it.

>>742914

Might makes right.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal Bakugou

>>742955

I believe the time for betrayals had past, because the only thing that isn't shit from that big turd that is Bakugou is that he is consistent with his ideals about being cooler to defeat villains.

Still, I wished he was depowered so HE can be shitted on.

I hope the other bully kids appear again, just to be shat on and fucked over.

>>742914

when i read the fist chapter i was expecting Deku to be a "powerless" superhero owning hero and villians with his knowledge and common tools.

Like some sort of Gadget guy, but then OfA....

>>742962

Well, the point of OfA is deserving a superpower and work for it instead of being born with it.

>>742962

That would have been so fucking dull, the series would have failed and Hori would be dead by rope by now.

>>742962

That was the original intent for the series. Deku was originally an employee of a Hero Support company that made gadgets who would use his company's stuff to become a hero. I liked what we have now better more during the beginning, because the idea that a shounen protagonist could actually choose when to use his super special unstoppable power, but at the cost of breaking himself was a neat concept. It's a bit more boring now that Deku is actually able to just punch the shit out of a lot of people.

So... do anyone else feels like the world of the series is incredibly abusive against people without quirks? or weaker people in general.

Just using as example Deku's middleschool class and the exam, where Urahara was the only girl who was ok.

Stain was more right than people expect.

>>742982

>So... do anyone else feels like the world of the series is incredibly abusive against people without quirks? or weaker people in general.

Congratulations, you've realized what the theme of the entire series is, which was almost directly stated in chapter one.

>>743053

If he at least shown remorse or tried to be nicer to deku even in a tsundere way, but after being kidnapped he learned NOTHING and just became a faggot angry that Deku got powers he worked hard to get.

>>743053

Also, forgot to say that this is not just a bad example, is the average of rivals.

Vegeta had to die once and being beaten and humilliated into submition to earn the title of official rival.

>>743065

>If he at least shown remorse or tried to be nicer to deku even in a tsundere way, but after being kidnapped he learned NOTHING and just became a faggot angry that Deku got powers he worked hard to get.

For once in his life, he wasn't actually mad at Deku. He was mad that he didn't have the power to save All-Might, and was basically just screaming at the universe.

>>743073

Yet he blames Deku for blaming himself because he is jealous Deku is recognized by Allmight. Also he gets jealous Deku is improving and he is not the big fish anymore.

Bakugou, even when trying to be good, is a bitch and a bully.

>>743076

I'm not defending Bakugo as a good person, I'm defending him as an interesting character.

>>743067

>is the average of rivals

>Vegeta

One, he and Bakugou are the only FUCKANGRY rivals I'm aware of, two, BnH has two other rivals on display with much less antagonistic (and more par-for-course) personalities. Your complaint ain't that valid.

>Froppy arrives on the scene

Well, that's it, the bad guy is fucked. I might as well stop reading now because I already know the ending.

>>743559

The only good one I can guess, and only because it was well done, not because the series is good, is Goku and Vegeta.

He is a monster who got defeated into total submission and died pathetically, so we can accept him as a 'good' character because he paid for his redemtion. I don't really know if there is any other rival character who paid so much to be a rival character or didn't do as much shit as the other rival characters so him being accepted wasn't that hard.

You can tell all you want about Toriyama and Dragon Ball, but as the father of shonen I'm sure there might be lots of shonen before Dragon Ball, but I can't think of one right one he made the good standars in shonen tropes.

>>743696

I'll give you that. He is a well writen character and I'll never say it's bad writing, but I'll never accept him being "friends" with Deku with no proper redemption or at least a beating that threatens his hero carreer.

I'm just upset he has so much popularity being a filthy piece of shit.

>>743696

>And even then, it's shown he's frustrated at being left behind.

It's easy to be frustrated about. Him and Deku tag-teaming Masketta Man would be a lot more effective than just Deku.

>>743696

>That being said, I get it. I really want him to just get decked in his stupid face, and have Deku start wailing on him, too.

I think that would be the worst way writing wise to pacify Bakugo. In the end he will just get humbled and that would be extremely boring. What I think should happen is whats happening now - him getting more in grips with reality but still maintain his top dog status skill/powers wise. A perfect turning point would be in a situation where everyone is outmatched and desperate(including Deku) and then he comes in with his never lose smile to save everyone. Even as to go with something like "I must protect the next Symbol of Peace" or something like that.

>>743702

>I'm just upset he has so much popularity being a filthy piece of shit.

Well thats because despite him being a piece of shit his the most complex character. He is a garbage person but an amazing character, in my opinion.

>>743702

No one thinks of him and Deku as friends, especially him or Deku. They did used to be friends but certainly aren't anymore. And basically his entire arc has been the world shitting on him every since he hit the big leagues. Bakugo was shown as happy, if a huge asshole, during middle school. But almost every waking moment of UA has been hell for him. Any acomplishments he has get any and all meaning ripped away from him. He won the fight against Deku, but failed the mission, and that was only because of Deku holding back to not kill him. He won the tournament, but it meant nothing because once again his opponent held back, and he knows he would have lost otherwise. And his internship with Best Jeanist wasn't training, it was Best Jeanist's attempt to "put him in his place," and was thoroughly humiliating for him. And when he got kidnapped, almost every person in existence assumed he would go back. Being Bakugo is suffering.

As for his popularity, I think it comes from the catharsis for Japanese fans who get to see someone shout and rage, and say whatever the fuck they want without being directly punished for it. He's punished in narrative sense, but that's a karmic punishment, not an authoritarian one.

>>743711

I figure Bakugo's character arc will cement him as a great hero when he realizes he's a shit hero, but a fantastic fighter, so he goes into a fight to distract supervillains not because he wants to win, but because it will free up Deku to rescue people.

I didn't expect to see people call explosion guy well written. Then again, I did only watch the first season of the anime. Were the parts that focused on him as horrible as in the show in the original? I'm pretty sure they spent more time on flashbacks to the same scenes over and over than they spent on what was going on, for several episodes in a row. The show seems to have a major problem with flashbacks in general, spending far too much time on them and too often.

>>743728

>Then again, I did only watch the first season of the anime.

Literally all of his development comes after that. And after the Deku/Bakugo fight, flashbacks become MUCH less awful.

>>743716

> he knows he would have lost otherwise

That was right at the start of the year. We don't know what would have happened. Todoroki was part where he realized he can't just go around being stronger just by pure inborn ability, since that how it was in middle school, but had to actively try and put effort into what he is doing because he is now facing people with greater inborn ability. Well Bakugo knows how to use his quirk really well with his physical capabilities while Todoroki has been carried purely on the raw power of his quirk, even Stain addresses that.

>>743728

There are currently 4 instance of his character development, I think. Each showing that he isn't simply a raging spurg with a god complex. And I think at this point the god complex has left him.

>>743744

WHICH IS WHY DEKU NEEDED TO BE A FUCKING GIRL

>>743737

>And I think at this point the god complex has left him.

I think even in the first season his ego got a hell of a beating when he realized that other students at UA are as good as him.

He also loves All Might as much Deku, but whereas Deku loves All Might for saving people, Bakugou seems to love him because he beat the shit out of villians.

They are both trying to be All Might in their own way.

>>743711

Reading comprehension.

I don't want Hori to go that way either, as evidenced by the fact that I've fucking thought about this, this much, and was defending Hori's writing.

I want Bakugou to be taught a hard lesson about being a bitch nigga, what I think should happen is continuing to go with what we're already getting.

After all, what would be more crushing to his ego?

Getting his ass beaten by a stronger Deku, or learning he was left out of something big, specifically because he's a piece of shit?

>>743782

>Reading comprehension.

Mate I wasn't apposing you.

Also - getting beaten by Deku.

>>743782

>After all, what would be more crushing to his ego?

>Getting his ass beaten by a stronger Deku, or learning he was left out of something big, specifically because he's a piece of shit?

Actually, probably the most destroying thing would be for them to plan to leave him out, only for Deku to convince everyone that they should include Bakugo because his skills are needed. Then after that, he completely cocks it all up because of his attitude, and Deku has to bail him out.

>>743657

Actually, the same could be said for Kaiba. Why aren't there more rivals as good as Kaiba?

>>742914

>makes it so nobody is friends with him

Wut?

>literally tells him to kill himself at one point

So?

We do it all the time. Kill yourself.

>>743657

You wot m8?

Hell, Saint Seiya is older and did most things better than DBZ. Far more interesting story and characters to boot.

>>744022

Ok, we can count Kaiba too.

>>744037

Oh shit, I forgot about Saint Seiya, but is there a rival character in Saint Seiya?

>>743778

He has got a dick. Fill in the rest.

>>744126

Femdom is shit. I can't get over Deku being such a faggot over being bullied Bakugo, do you think he'll be less of a faggot over bullied by femBakugo?

Deku should pick Froppy and abandon float-girl

>>744181

She would still mess up, but not as badly.* I don't know why I greentexted that.

>>744126

>Trying to justify this level of bullying by making either one of them girls

The point is that Bakugo was batshit crazy evil. If you turn their character dynamic into "Well one of them was a girl and it was because they liked each other" the whole dynamic because unrepentant shit that's been done in almost every anime ever.

>>744156

> He isn't bullied,

Literally one of Deku's early lines in the first season is, "Bakugo is the one being bullied? This school is so weird!"

>>744213

I was just arguing that turning bakugo into a girl makes more sense than turning deku into one, not about the bullying. And their dynamic is still mostly shit when you look at it, don't pretend "asshole get's put in his place" isn't also an overdone one.

Somebody here was bullied as a kid.

>>744213

> the whole dynamic because unrepentant shit that's been done in almost every anime ever.

Think of the porn you idiot, that's the whole point of making deku a grill.

New Vigilantes chapter is out. Koichi can fool a polygraph.

>>744332

He isn't the hauler, he's the crawler. He doesn't acknowledge his identity as the hauler, hilarity* ensues.

>>744332

>>744335

<save people who trick everyone into calling you the hauler

<actual name, crawler or his original name, gentleman

<dodge a bullet by telling the truth that you're not the hauler, but rather the crawler

this is some high level writing.

>>744335

>>744348

It's so good.

Will we get an All Might vs C.C battle?

>>744500

Probably not, a c.c. vs stain maybe. The ego and fakeness of c.c. feels like a death flag.

>>744500

>>744672

C.C will be the first sacrifice for Stain's ideals.

>>744451

>>744446

What makes you ask that? Jump only has four breaks a year, barring a total disaster of course. Niggastream has started releasing on Fridays for WSJ and Jai take however long they feel. We've just gotta wait.

Eri can rewind all the damage that Chisaki has done

>>745467

Kind of makes this arc matter even less. For real, I just want it over now.

>>745493

Yeah i was thinking the same thing. I thought Eri was based off the character leech from x-men which from his blood they make bullets that take away mutant powers but since Eri's power is to rewind then how does it remove quirks?

>>745498

>>745467

>>745493

Her power is more like Undo. She returns things to previous state. She literally undid her dad from existence and undid OHs transformation. I think if she tries to heal people she will delete them. This fits because nighteye said deku will die. So Im seeing it - deku gets gibbed, she undoes it.

Way too much narration for what's supposed to be the climactic fight scene of an arc.

>>745510

From what I'm getting is that Eri works like an extreme version of Crazy Diamond or Mandom

>>745579

Well now see that makes more sense.

Still, what would be a good name for it? Dust to Dust, maybe?

>>742850

Damn, that's a lot of work put into discrediting some asshole's bait. Good job though, top tier explanation of why MHA isn't just another shonen.

How did the emergence of quirks affect the Middle East?

>>745981

They probably blew themselves up.

>>735974

Just finished Season 2. Definitely one of the best animes I've seen in a while. Are the OVA's worth watching? Any recommendations for anime similar to Boku no Hero?

>>747477

2nd Ova has secret best girl, that no one knows about. They are pure fan masturbation though.

MHA is shonen so type in "not shit shonen" into Google.

>>747477

The OVA's are fine. Not bad, but nothing to write home about.

Did the new chapter get spoiled yet?

>>748376

>Rewind

Are they going to retcon or undo Lemillion's Loss? I'm not sure how I feel about that.

>>748408

I seriously don't like how this is going. With Eri's power, literally any danger in the future won't be important.

>deku loses an arm

Eri fixes it

>Tintin loses his quirk

Eri fixes it

>Character dies

Eri fixes it

>Catastrophic incident happens

Eri fixes it

Hopefully there's more to her quirk, but having an overpowered quirk is silly. I hope Hori doesn't fuck up.

>>748426

>>748410

>>748408

See

>>745510

It isnt healing, its erasing. It's King Crimson, not crazy diamond.

>>748408

I hope not. It'd be more interesting to see the preferred heir to one for all become quirkless to contrast Deku's own situation. Not only that but Hori could always have Lemillion take up the original idea he had for the series as the quirkless hero.

>>748426

>but having an overpowered quirk is silly

Once you introduce the concept of quirks, it's inevitable that some will be overpowered by their very nature.

>>748435

Obligatory

IT JUST WORKS

>>748376

>Midoriya becomes Red Riot when he goes 100%

Deku's dad has been fooling around, hasn't he.

OH's quirk is still better.

>>748435

So if Deku keeps braking his shit going 100%, he won't lose his quirk because Eri can't undo it far enough?

Her quirk needs a proper explanation soon. Either from some exposition after this fight is over or from Horikoshi himself.

>>748648

From what I understand it something along the lines of

>"Her quirk will kill you"

>"Not if I kill myself first!"

>>748649

From what I can tell from the hints dropped in the manga, and what this post says >>745579

Her quirk is better described as a state reversal quirk and personally I like that explanation way better.

>>748652

I hope it isn't healing more powerful than Recovery Girl's. Every series where a healing power is introduced abuses it, even if it establishes some rules that apparently limit things, it almost never really happens (the worst offender I can think of is Shaman King where not even dying is a problem at the end).

I hope we just see her using her power for "healing" now so Deku can fight like a berserker with low HP but really high attack and HP regen, and then never again.

>>748654

it is and we already have someone like overhaul who can do what crazy diamond can be but more and better

>>748667

>Super Sayan Verde

Already hyped for next week.

>>748667

I think 100% is All Might levels of strength.

It's not Deku's max, it's OfA max.

>>748667

United Nations of Smash incoming.

>>748667

AfO doesn't have a maximum state. You can force it to expel more power than usual. There is a maximum state that someone could go without wrecking himself. Deku is just measuring his state compared to All Might's default. The cheesy line "every punch is more than a 100% of his power" from the Noumu/AM fight meant that AM is going pass the point of safe use. Notice that United States of Smash broke AM's arm.

So currently Deku is trying to emulate AM's power. But that won't be his end game maximum if he get even buffer/stronger fitness than AM and also OfA's power would have also increased.

I'm still not sure how OfA gains power. Is it literally passing on the fitness potential that people built up. So technically every time someone tries to get buff to be able to use OfA the buffing up itself increases OfA.

>>748696

One theory I heard, maybe in this thread even since it's been here a while and I can't be bothered to reread it all, was that the "pass itself down" quirk amassed other quirks, akin to how AfO does.

What I mean is like, the first person the brother passed it to had super speed. Then when that person passed it on, they passed it to someone with super strength. Then they passed it onto someone with super durability.

Etc.

But I think you hit the nail on the head, for how it gets stronger in a person, I guess. It's more like it has no upper limit, technically, and it's just how much of it the person can channel.

It'd explain why even Deku's 100% isn't as much as All Might's 100%, since he's way tinier. Which also ties into how quirks are biological functions.

>>748705

I doubt it because then passing it onto someone with a quirk would be way more essential. If that were the case than we have 2 generation right now who did nothing for the power. Yet Toshinori managed to beat AfO whiles Nana apparently got slaughtered. Second - how come there has been no one with a quirk that just isn't a direct physical augment. Third - why would it augment people's quirks when its only an implications of former quirks. You could say it absorbs the quirk into the general stockpile of energy but then it passing down quirks doesn't make sense much.

>>748709

Yeah, point taken.

I honestly have no idea. I guess the "stockpiling energy" thing is like, slowly building up power, but it's so slow that it takes more than one lifetime?

That'd answer why Nana got wrecked, but All Might won.

>>748712

The thing is that it can't exist forever, at one point it would become way too powerful for any sort of use. Honestly if its just a over time thing i would be disappointed although AM did say that you hand it over to someone, he improves it and then hands it off to another.

>>737272

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I like how everyone forgot Eraserhead is probably giving that time quirk chick quite the dicking right now while this arc continues to not end.

>>748667

>>748696

What surprises me more than anything else is how Overhaul ended up being as much of a threat as he was. It's kind of hard to take Shigaraki seriously at this point when you consider that he's barely on the same level as a couple of UA students... meanwhile, Overhaul is pretty much a one-man wrecking machine against these jobbers.

At the same time, it also shows just how impressive Lemillion is that, even with that said, he still managed to fight off Overhaul with his minions, and only lost at all because of Quirk-removing rounds. Well, that, and him annihilating an entire class in the training battles.

The real question is if Deku, with his current level of training, will be able to actually put 100% OfA to successful use and finally free us from this neverending arc.

>>748806

Overhaul seems to have made it his purpose to just be better than Shigaraki. The quirks are similar yet one is performing so much better that it makes the other appear as if he doesn't even know how to use his own quirk.

>>748690

> max, it's OfA max.

UNITED SATES OF SMASH, you failure.

>>748826

What I find the most interesting is how different the two handle the things.

Essentially, the League of Villains is almost entirely in it to survive. They are willing to take losses when necessary, as long as it means they get to come back and fight again another day. There's risks that come with the job, of course, but they're all rather well calculated, and they never seem to do much more than they absolutely need to - and those villains who did, like Muscular and some of the other jobbers from the Camp Arc who were just in it for shits and giggles, were ignored for that.

On the other hand, Overhaul hasn't demonstrated any willingness to flee. He could, pretty easily - he could get out of there with his people, and try to fuck off somewhere else. Instead, they're throwing out every single thing they have at the moment. The lower members don't really have their own agenda, with Overhaul being the main reason they're doing anything at all. And as far as he's concerned, it doesn't really matter what happens to any of them. They're quite literally expendable.

While I suppose they might keep him alive to fight again, it's for that reason that I assume Overhaul is going to go down in this story arc. On the other hand, Shigaraki will survive, the League will keep on doing what they're doing, and all things considered, it's likely they'll walk away better for this whole affair, assuming they manage to grab any sweet loot from the raid. And if they manage to grab Eri - frankly, after almost two months of playing toss the little girl, I'll by pretty annoyed if this does happen - even more so.

All of that aside, it's amusing how Deku functions in the story. Muscular? Overhaul? With the exception of the first Nomuu and AfO - who All Might had to take on - it seems like his main role is breaking himself apart to put down whatever the highest level enemy on the field is.

>>748928

I never really thought about it like that, but yeah, despite being weaker in combat, and having less at his disposal, Shigaraki's actually way better at managing shit and holding it together to fight another day.

Motherfucking All Might shows up to their hideout, with his entourage, kicks their asses, saves their hostage, and takes out their true leader, and yet here we are. They're still characters operating in the story, and still a potential big deal later on.

Contrast that with Stain, Muscular, Overhaul, etc. Villains who didn't want to stop until they won, so they threw everything they had at the heroes, and lost everything in the process.

Overhaul in particular is being basically suicidal about this, in sheer determination to fuck the heroes' shit up. Like, if he just acted fast enough before Mirio could track him down, he could have very easily escaped, given the way his minions' quirks work. But it's the fact that he's hung around, hell bent on crushing them, that's going to be his undoing.

Contrast that with Shigaraki, who even from the start, has been shown willing to cut his losses, and yeah. Overhaul's a one man army, but he's a horrible leader.

Meanwhile even in that regard, as twisted as their motives and beliefs are, at the very least it's made explicitly clear in that one scene, of him asking the others to trust him, Shigaraki is trusting of his subordinates, and might even think of them as friends. Which again comes in handy, they aren't thinking in terms of "PROTECT THE BOSS AT ALL COSTS" they're thinking in terms of "what can I do that'd benefit Shigaraki the most, right now?"

And so we get shit like Toga disguising as Deku, and helping the heroes' find where everyone is.

I really hope we get more of Shigaraki, ironically enough he's way more interesting to me, than Overhaul. Especially since there's the possibility that AfO transferred AfO itself, to Shigaraki, but didn't transfer any other quirks to him, so Shigaraki wouldn't know about it until it was revealed to him. Which would explain why he's so adamant that a kid with only one quirk would be his successor, like Midoriya to All Might.

>>748696

>I'm still not sure how OfA gains power

It doesn't pass on only fitness, remember that when Deku was facing the guy with the mind control voice he could see the ghosts of the previous OfA users. Arguably, it's a constantly evolving quirk, unlike AfO: while AfO lets you nick anyone's quirk and then use it (but without any finesse behind it, because Sensei obviously didn't have time to perfect it), OfA grows from one person to another, as some sort of accumulative power. So it's theoretically possible that Deku will be stronger than AM, and then Deku's successor will be even stronger, because the powers are adding over time. That also explains how AM was able to wreck AfO, while Nana died.

>>748928

>Overhaul is going to go down in this story arc

Definitely, which is kind of a shame, because he's so far the most competent villain in the manga (ignoring his suicidal determination to fuck Deku's shit up, when he could just leave). I'm hoping for him to play another big role in the future.

Maybe some sort of prison break arc, combined with the whole "there's a spy in the Academy" plot thread hanging around. Maybe his powers end up taken over by Shiragaki when he figures out that he's inherited AfO from Sensei.

>>749083

I wonder if when someone passes on OfA they grow weaker over time?

That's kind of what it looked like when All Might talked about preserving the little flame he had left.

How did the emergence of quirks affect Eastern Europe?

>>749366

Eugenics for vodka production quirks.

>>749354

When you pass on OFA you keep a small portion of it that slowly fades over time. All-Might did everything he could to maintain his "flame" for as long as possible, but eventually the power completely left him.

>>748828

I'm saying that it's going to be even stronger than one country, you ninny.

>>749631

THE SUN NEVER SETS ON THE BRITISH EMPIRE, SMMMMMMMASSSSSSHUUUUUU!!!

>>749716

>Manchester Smash: A downwards wheel kick

Fuck it, next Smash should be either a roundhouse kick or a Sweet Chin Music