/8bantb/ - Random Banter

Potatoes have more vitamin C than lemons.

>>6457

>be kid in Japan (usa school is basically the same but in a different style of torture)

>SAMURAI FATHER SAY I LACK DISCIPLINE!

>HONOR FOR YOUR FAMILY

>SMASH SPOON INTO RICE POT LID

>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG GOOD MORNING SON ITS 1AM TIME FOR SCHOOL

>sprint for school bus

>miss

>take human sardine train instead

>make it to school

>be expected to work harder than life allows it

>father calls me on moshi moshi walkie talkie

>NO SON, DISHONORABLE NOT HARD WORK ENOUGH

>SAMMMMMMUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRAAAAAAI

>PREPARE SUSHI EXACTLY LIKE ME SON

>mixing rice and chopping up fish on my school desk

>teacher drops mt.fugi made out of book reports and homework on my desk

>fish juice and undercooked rice dripping off sides of desk

>NO SON, AGAIN!

>NO STUDENT, AGAIN!

>START ALL OVER! -FATHER

>START ALL OVER! -TEACHER

>all work is too overwhelming

>can't keep up

(don't sing this it's a copyright song)

>wake me up inside

>CAN'T WAKE UP

>SAVE ME FROM THE NOTHING IVE BECOMMEEEE

(don't sing this it's a copyright song)

>small highlight of life is when perverted big sister struggle snuggles me

>suddenly summer break comes along

>life becomes bliss

>suddenly summer is almost over

>can not handle leaving paradise and going back to hell

>commit sudoku

>"Anime sure is interesting. Because you can tell a lot about how Japan really works from watching it."

>"Think about all of anime."

>"ALL of it: All the endless technicolor fun, all the sex, and all the violence."

>"Now imagine the opposite of anime."

>"That's Japan."

Teach the children to hate learning, to love being unproductive, and guess what?

You may as well have taken everything from them, and they don't even realize it.

It is the worst crime ever committed, the worst institution ever conceived of, yet no one talks about it. Ever. Those that do are ridiculed.

We should be ANGRY. They took away the one thing we can never experience again and never get back, our childhood.

We should be livid, we should be politically organizing against the people organizing it. Yet no one cares, they just let it go.

>>6458

It confuses the students. It presents an incoherent ensemble of information that the child needs to memorize to stay in school. Apart from the tests and trials, this programming is similar to the television; it fills almost all the "free" time of children. One sees and hears something, only to forget it again.

It teaches them to accept their class affiliation.

It makes them indifferent.

It makes them emotionally dependent.

It makes them intellectually dependent.

It teaches them a kind of self-confidence that requires constant confirmation by experts (provisional self-esteem).

It makes it clear to them that they cannot hide, because they are always supervised.

Backpacks are a slaves weight

Homework to chain you down at home

No windows to "stop distraction"

Tests to grade your worth and stress you

And constant indoctrination by mediocrities and shit textbooks

>people who home school are on watch lists.

http://w ww.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/111203

https://archive.is/7VPdT

>people on terrorist watchlists for extremely silly reasons

http://w ww.networkworld.com/article/2228920/microsoft-subnet/ridiculous-dhs-listyou-might-be-a-domestic-terrorist-if-.html

https://archive.is/909fh

>forget kids getting expelled for eating poptarts and being accused of "the poptart looking a similar shape as a gun", now kids are getting sued for looking at each other and smiling and getting along.

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/10/02/12-year-old-boy-suspended-for-looking-at

https://archive.is/LLDQD

https://archive.is/J3N9D

>Federal Government Is Bullying Parents Who Homeschool Their Children

>A 14-year-old girl was suspended from school for a month and faces possible assault and battery charges for playfully throwing a baby carrot at one of her former teachers.

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/10/25/school-wants-teen-charged-with-assault-f

https://archive.is/DDkMr

>A fourth-grader from Hillsborough, Florida, was warned not to pass any more love notes to his female classmates—and will be charged with sexual harassment if he persists.

http://w ww.wptv.com/news/state/love-note-lands-fourth-grade-student-in-principals-office

https://archive.is/HDo2z

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/11/12/9-year-old-boy-who-passed-love-notes-to#comment

https://archive.is/iwZNt

>>6459

The education system is not "broken", it is designed to ruin children. It creates imitators rather than innovators. It defines intelligence as the ability to remember and repeat things. It is also designed to make students weak and submissive as adults.

Instead of finding children with creative and analytical minds it punishes students who question the curriculum and rewards mindless parroting or solving per-determined tasked with per-determined solutions.The thing about weak and submissive adults is absolutely the primary function of schools. Learned helplessness is truly the one things schools are ultimately about.

Imagine being away from your family, the people are who meant to love and care for you, only to spend your waking hours with surrogate mothers who couldnt care less for you and your well-being, pressed into doing menial tasks over, and over, in a hostile environment, and with no outlet for your energy. You can read more about this in the book "The War on Boys" by Christina Summers I know, I know, but pertaining purely to how boys are treated in public schooling, her information is solid. Boys are punished purely for being boys, for being energetic, for being talkative and full of ideas and life. Girls are treated as the gold standard, being quiet and submissive. Imagine being punished for just being yourself, having to carry around a 50lb backpack all day, dealing with bullies, shitty food, demeaning classroom routines, and then taking that home, only to do it tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

It's horrible, it's maddening. It's disgusting that so much talent, so much wonder and purity is beaten out of our youth. They're turned into soulless automatons and for what? For jobs that are no longer there? For a society that doesn't care for them? I can't imagine a worse fate. I fully agree with OP, don't look for signs to prevent a future bad thing for happening, prevent it from happening to begin with. Such major reform is needed it's staggering.

If you act or think differently you are punished for being rebellious. If you conform and give them what you think they want from you, then you are punished for being obedient.

The problem isn't what you do, but what you are. your very soul at its base is different than theirs.

They are here to break the people who are naturally resistant to the programing, so that they either conform completely or become broken and too messed up to act on what they instinctively know is wrong with society because their mind isn't as much of a propaganda sponge. the entire education system is a giant brainwashing camp that acts like a filter of darkness that only lets the most plain and normal and stupid and obedient people through, while viciously destroying anyone who is smart and innocent and good and capable of critical thought.

>Here anon, we need to test you again just to see where you are at, But don't worry! It's just a test!

>But if you fail that test because all we do is test you, and never teach you anything, we will hold you back a grade, which means another year of your life is stolen by us.

>Just need to test you some more! (To make sure you still know nothing)

Society has also been indoctrinated with the idea that people who inevitably get failed and drop out of school or didn't get good grades must be bad people, which makes it even more difficult to get along with people or get a job. As if life wasn't difficult enough?

>>6460

>go to school

>nobody teaches anyone anything

>no teaching, just constant testing. testing to make sure you are good enough to pass more tests

>fail tests because nobody taught me anything

>get bad grades

>don't graduate and get "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>look for job

>"oh haha anon HAHA so HAHA, sorry… hehe it says right HERE that you didn't pass school/dropped out/didn't go to college"

>"that's right"

>"okay we will call you back later"

>they never call back

>repeat a thousand more times even at fast food restaurants

>nobody calls back

>NOBODY

>can't find job

>can't pay for food or water

>become homeless

>get arrested for being homeless because its illegal in usa

or alternatively:

>go to school

>take tests and only pass by slamming huge amounts of pointless waste information into my head

>get no sleep

>have no social life

>have no friends

>be miserable

>have no pleasure or happiness in life

>get good grades

>graduate and get "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>can't find job because don't have experience

>can't get experience because nobody will give me a job

>but I have "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>sorry haha no job 4 u

>can't pay for food or water

>become homeless

>get arrested for being homeless because its illegal in usa

The mark of the beast is when you follow demon shepards like a sheep

The mark of the beast is a collection of diplomas

>>6461

why college is scam

Might be a good idea to watch stefan molyneux's videos on no college for white man, and other "don't go to college" videos, if you can even find them since his ytbe channel was deleted by ytbe for no reason.

College Student Earns 4.0 GPA, Then Drops Out: "You Are Being Scammed!"

Billy Williams just finished his first college semester and did so with the all-impressive 4.0 GPA. Instead of celebrating his accomplishments with friends and family, he decided to drop out of college entirely.

Billy made a facebook post that is now going viral in which he explains his reasoning for dropping out:

“Now that I’ve finished my first semester I think it’s safe to say… FUCK COLLEGE. Now before all you of you go batshit crazy… I have a few points to make.

1. Yes I have dropped out after finishing my first semester (with a 4.0 GPA). And it’s one of the best choices I’ve ever made. Not because I am averse to learning, but actually the exact opposite.

2. YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED. You may not see it today or tomorrow, but you will see it some day. Heck you may have already seen it if you’ve been through college. You are being put thousands into debt to learn things you will never even use. Wasting 4 years of your life to be stuck at a paycheck that grows slower than the rate of inflation. Paying $200 for a $6 textbook. Being taught by teacher’s who have never done what they’re teaching. Average income has increased 5x over the last 40 years while cost of college has increased 18x. You’re spending thousands of dollars to learn information you won’t ever even use just to get a piece of paper. I once even had an engineer tell me “I learned more in my first 30 days working than in my 5 years of college.” What does that tell you about this system? There are about a million more ways you’re being scammed into this.. just watch the video i’m gonna comment if you want to see more.

3. Colleges are REQUIRING people to spend money taking gen. ed. courses to learn about the quadratic formula (and other shit they will never use) when they could be giving classes on MARRIAGE and HOW TO DO YOUR TAXES.

4. Gosh there are so many more reasons I could add, but just comment if you disagree or have reasons to add. I’d love to add to the discussion. TAG a friend in college, Tag your parents, share this if you agree, disagree. Let’s just talk about it. Heck post a picture of yourself flipping off something you think is unjust in our society.”

Billy is right too that the price of college continues to soar.

In 2015, Harvard’s annual tuition and fees (not including room and board) would cost a person $45,278, which is more than 17 times the 1971-72 cost. If annual increases of tuition had simply tracked the inflation rate since 1971, 2016’s tuition would be just $15,189.

http://archive.is/ffFq6

>>6462

Quotes from anons:

>So much of this makes me glad I graduated college in the early 90s.

>go watch peter molyneux's videos on college and his "no college for white men" video.

>Having went to university way back when also means I'm not left in crippling debt for the rest of my life. I was able to procure Pell grants for the first 75 hours and the rest was paid through scholarships and a loan that I paid back within 2 years of graduation and still could afford graduate school.

>Even if the money weren't an issue, I wouldn't set foot near a university these days. They're no longer institutes of higher learning, but cesspools of indoctrination and money grabbing. Keep them in debt, keep them paying the interest on those loans, keep refinancing them at "lower rates" just to keep the principle alive at all cost.

>My kids? They will learn trades, like their grandfathers. University is off the table until academia is once again in the hands of teachers and out of the hands of financiers.

>It's a good thread. The more information the better, especially given to those who are considering college.

https://archive.is/0CfSy

https://archive.is/6tUoR

>Maxwell said he didn’t want to waste his parents’ money on college work that held little or no interest to him.

>several male students return home without degrees and often with a sense of disappointment and despair.”

>"What you're really learning in school is to run from room to room through a maze of tunnels at the sound of a buzzer"

>"like mice in a maze."

>"go get the cheese!"

>I know people who are 70, 80, 90 years old still chasing the cheese. the cheese is a lie.

Both school and prison are the same:

>sturdy buildings

>surrounded by locked fences and gates only opened at set times

>inmates/students brought in with multiple buses

>authoritarian structure

>armed guards/patrolling police on campus

>metal detectors

>dress code (dull depressing uncomfortable)

>emphasis on silence and order

>set times enforced for walking, eating, drinking from the water fountain etc. "one two three, thats enough for me!"

>food is absolute unhealthy disgusting garbage

>fear based negative reinforcement and harsh punishment for everything

>solitary confinement/after school detention

>zero tolerance policies, created by zero intelligence individuals that result in innocent human beings being punished in extreme, unfair, and unjust ways when they shouldn't even be punished in the first place. (often times resulting in someone who did actually do something bad, whether it be a student or a teacher- completely walking away with no responsibility)

>walking in lines, no deviation from the path of strict control allowed

>loss of individual autonomy

>abridged freedoms and extremely unfair and illogical rules

>no input in decision making "but teacher that may cause a problem" "NO BUTS!"

>>6463

I and many other people had a nightmarish experience in school being overwhelmed and overworked by multiple hateful, bitter, and careless teachers who competed to see who could give the students the least amount of teaching and learning and the most amount of testing and quizzing, or who could give out the most school work out of the multiple teachers you were supposed to attend classes with throughout the day.

Then they would all compete to see who could give out the most "precious-relax-and-recover-opportunity" (basically free time at home) destroying homework assignments, and who could give out the most on vacations so that those were ruined too, and finally who could give out the most on summer break so that you would really feel those feely kind of feels that feel very very bad.

it wasn't ever enough that school already looked like, sounded like, felt like, and clearly and obviously resembled a slave labor camp; but it never stopped at just that. I was bullied by students endlessly without mercy and was unable to recieve any help from a teacher because they didn't seem to care and never took any action to stop my suffering no matter what I told them.

Teachers had special preferences for the worst students either knowingly or because the bullies always had a perfected split personality for their victims and their teachers and somehow never got caught no matter what. A teacher could watch me get punched right in the face and wouldn't do a single thing about it. I could tell them and even if they saw it happen they would deny it or try to brush it off "oh just get over it, you're tough! don't let them get to you! just walk away"

school and college are driving students to such dark and painful places that they actually go completely mad.

>Insanely high workload.

>work is pure busy work and contains little to no material that the students care about.

>there is no fun allowed at school or at home.

>there is no rest allowed at school or at home.

>the few moments where socializing is allowed are ruined by the fact that everyone hates everyone and treats everyone like garbage.

>students are forced to work all day and night and then wake up early and exhausted to get back on the slave bus so that they can be forced to do it all over again.

>students are forced to never feel at peace even in their own homes. they are forced to go somewhere they hate every single day, do things they hate every single day, and be in the presence of other people they hate and who hate them- and be judged by them, and then forced to go home and be judged by their parents and experience the disapproval for their lack of success in a very bad environment.

>every day the students are exposed to these living nightmares full of countless terrors and then forced to think "all of these students, all of these teachers and school employees, all of these bullies are the people who will decide my future.

But after countless days of being physically assaulted if you even raised your arms to defend yourself or block a punch from a bully, the teacher would be the first to run over and give you all the blame and send you off for detention and in school suspension. There was always this strange lingering theme that I was the designated scape goat of the entire school. I could promise on a stack of bibles that they were a well organized cult and I was some sort of sick twisted sacrifice. but I rejected their game, and somehow I made it out alive. I didn't snap and go berserk because I'm a very reasonable person and I would never even think to do something like that. I'm convinced that I have more patience than a saint. However, this terrible experience seemed to repeat itself through many different schools I had unfortunately went to.

>>6464

I believe it in my heart and soul that there is a rampant vicious and rabid viral pandemic of highly organized scapegoating cults taking place in Americas schools. I believe that this is also highly likely to be occuring in Japan. look at their su-ide rate and the ages that people commit sicide at. children and young adults are being overwhelmed, overworked, and gangstalk scapegoated literally to death all over our great country and these pieces of shit in the school system and the mainstream media have the gall to tell people to "learn how to watch out for the warning signs"

You want to know what the very best cure for breast cancer is you shitlover pink ribbin worshipping cucks? it's not early detection "our scan determined that we now know that you now ALREADY have cancer! congratulations!" it's prevention. Stop doing the things that create monsters, and maby you wouldn't have to be constantly looking out for them, you damn fools!

I sincerely and honestly feel that the school system is run by very evil people who intentionally seek to drive their students insane, because it benefits them politically, helps them make the school system more strict like a jail, and helps them take all of our guns away so that we can't defend our country should a communist military try to invade us.

Do you know why school therapists or counselors give such horrible "bad situation advice"?

>Stop shivering, it's YOU who are cold, not the snow!

>Don't let that rain make you wet!

>You chose to slip and fall and get hurt!

>You chose to get fat! (meanwhile school lunch is worse than fast food and comes from a corporation that handles prison food)

>You chose to let that bully bully you!

>You choose to bleed your nose when punched in the face!

>Don't be burned, be the bigger man when set on fire!

Are they really that rock-dumb retarded? Is it because they are stupid?

Is it because normal people think has this fallacy going on that positive thoughts and "good" attitude will help them to overcome everything even when someone is actively making efforts against them, or are they actually intelligent and use this for evil?

some of them really are that stupid but I believe it goes so much MUCH deeper.

Many school therapists or counselors are that stupid, but the ones who give that advice that are smart enough to know it's shit give it on purpose because they enjoy how it makes the person they are giving the advice to feel, which is hopeless and helpless. I believe they do actually know exactly what they are doing when they give this bad advice because they enjoy the results, be it deeper more painful soul crushing depression, or the bottling up of pain and suffering and emotions that result in an outburst that they watch with a bag of popcorn in their hands when it happens.

>>6465

A very common piece of advice I would be given all the time

School therapists and behavior counselors did this to me constantly and they appeared get a very very sick satisfaction out of doing this.

(this is much darker and is much more common than anyone would ever admit)

>Go to school principle

>try to beg them for help for the 10000th time against the bullies or very nasty teacher who is making my life a living hell

>they don't care, make some carefree comment of blaming me for it all and send me to the counselor so they don't have to hear it anymore

>tell counselor for the 10000th time

>they respond "Anon if someone is bullying you, just walk away!"

>"but counselor the bullies have legs"

>"NUP! shup! SHUSH! "just walk away"

>"but that's horrible adv-"

>"NOOOOOOOOP! SHUUUUUUUUUUUSH! just walk away!"

next day:

>"help I walked away but they hit me"

>"Huh, well it must have been your fault for some reason! you probably walked over to where they were! stop doing that!"

>"no I didn't they came to where I was and hit me for no reason!"

>"are you SUUUUUUUURE it was for no reason? you didn't do something to them first?"

>"what? are you kidding me? I'm being physically assaulted! aren't you going to do something about it?"

>"are you really REALLY sure it wasn't your fault?" *shit eating facial expression of skepticism*

>"oh sure anon I'll talk to the bully"

>"oh anon well it turns out the bully says they didn't do it!"

>"…..what….? It's that person right over there, they did this, and they do it every day!"

>"Yea well they said they didn't do it so you have to let it go anon"

>"but"

>"BUT NOTHING SHOO SHOO! see you tomorrow you little bastard"

>bully keeps on bullying

>Tell the bully "hey didn't counselor tell you to stop? leave me alone!"

>bully just grins this evil shit eating grin like they know they will get away with it no matter what

>bully hits me again

>tell on bully

>tell the teacher

>tell the counselor

>tell the vice principle

>tell the principle

>nobody does anything

>bully gets away with no consequences scott free

>bully hits person another day

>So this is it. no options left.

>Nobody is coming to save me.

>Nobody is going to do anything about it.

>This is literally hell. someone help. please. please. someone.

>bully goes to hit again

>raise my arms to defend from being hit, not even hitting back just blocking to avoid injury

>Suddenly every teacher and counselor and employee of the school sticks their heads out of the woodwork like they were right there around the corner the whole time just waiting to see what would happen.

>bully just walks away like nothing is happening right in front of everyone

>everyone looks at the me like as if by defending myself non-violently that I've just commited every crime in the world at the same time.

>"ANON! how DARE YOU! you are so bad how could you put your hands on another student just because you thought nobody was watching! You're going to in school suspension (detention/essentially jail room inside school every day for a month) because lord forbid we should suspend you and send you home so you can catch a single break!

>get dragged to the office by the arms like a prisoner by some big thugs that work for the school.

>guilty until proven innocent. guilty even with proof to the contrary.

>am literally innocent

>bully gets no punishement and is functionally ignored and non-existant while the person being attacked gets victim blamed and sent to detention/suspension/expelled

>"anon we're gonna have a talk with your parents you're going to need some """""help"""""" we're gonna put you on some corporate pharmaceutical drugs-I mean medication to force you to "control your feelings" until you're an emotionless soulless zombies that feels nothing when we treat you like shit. we will punish you for justifiably feeling bad about bad things, but we wont do anything to fix these problems or stop whoever is responsible, because it is WE who are responsible! It is US who guided you into this disasterous hopeless situation, and anything that results we will watch while eating popcorn! Why? Because we're all communists and we RUN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM!

>>6466

I'm not saying that all therapists and counselors are bad, because there are good ones but they seem to be extremely rare, and in the minority. There seems to be a very small amount of good ones that actually know what they are doing, a larger amount of them that have no idea how to do their job regardless of their various degrees with their advice never amounting to more than "think about butterflies because butterflies are a happy thought", and then there's also a significant amount of them that seem to intentionally give bad advice, at least in my experience.

(I'm not talking like language counselors, I mean specifically the therapist types that feed you motivational poster lines over and over until you hate getting pulled out of class to listen to their shit that solves nothing) There are definitely bad people who go out of there way to get these jobs intentionally to torture people for their own sick and twisted fetishes and power fantasies. Just look at politicians as a prime example, because it goes above and beyond personal gain. They actually truly and honestly enjoy the pain of others. Some of them, anyway.

>be me

>be in class

>I dropped a pencil by accident while working

>Go to pick it up

>Teacher screams at me to sit down

>sit down

>"Why aren't you drawing?"

>"I dropped my pencil"

>screams at the me "Go to the principles office/pink slip/detention/referral/"

>go to principle

>Anon what happened

>tell them what happened

>they ask me another question even though I just told them everything that happened, conveniently ignoring all the details of what I said

>"Anon, why didn't you have a pencil?!"

>"I did, I dropped it."

>"Clowning around in the class then."

>"No, it was an accident."

>"Maybe you wouldn't have made that accident if you'd bothered to bring a pencil."

>"But I did! I just told you what happened"

>"Then why did Ms. Bitchface send you to me?"

>"Uh, because she entrapped me into a bad situation on purpose?!"

>"This sort of behavior will not be tolerated. Forgetting to bring a pencil to art class is lazy but disrespect of teachers is intolerable!"

>get in big trouble for literally no reason

>indescribable feelings of hopelessness and despair

On a similar topic, a very relevant story from a friend in a similar situation

s–cide hotlines are the worst and most useless "help lines" in the entire world.

I once heard a story from a distant friend If I can even call them that, I barely knew them and didn't stay in touch but the story was hilarious and absolutely sad and awful at the same time.

Story is from their perspective the way they told me. I have nothing to do with the story, and I am not scidal and will never be scidal. This friend had a nearly identical experience in school as I did.

>>6467

>friend is not really scidal, but believes and worries they are right on the edge of being scidal

>calls s–cide hotline

>yes s–cide hotline can I take your order

>yes I'm really sad and depressed and I feel horrible.

>"anything else?"

>yes my family and school physically and psychologically abuses me and they're very violent or mentally torture me and I have no place to go and this makes me feel terrible

>"so are you s–cidal?"

>friend tries to explain that they are in very bad shape and severely depressed and right on the edge of possibly feeling bad enough that they might start thinking that way, but that they are currently not depressed enough to want to do that, so the answer is technically No.

>"I'm sorry but the scide hotline is only for scidal people"

>NO you don't understand, I have nobody to talk to about these horrible problems in my life and I'm so depressed it hurts I have no friends and I'm getting worse and worse in how I feel, Please help me somehow, I beg you, I can't even afford a therapist

>"I dunno listen I'm gonna hang up because you're not s–cidal"

>No no please! Please!!!!!!

>"sorrry… I have to hang up now"

>WAIT! What if you hanging up on me is the last thing that finally makes me become scidal? I'm on my last straw, I can't take any more bad or sad things, this is it for me. I'm not scidal, but if you hang up on me for not being scidal, I might become scidal right then and there! Please don't leave me hanging! I need help! I have nobody!

>the bitch ACTUALLY fucking hangs up on him

>in that moment he described the most awful horrific feeling, because in that moment he knew that even scide hotlines don't give a FUCK about people, not even scidal ones.

>s–cide help lines take people that are on the fence and turn them away

>This makes them feel betrayed and abandoned on top of how bad they already feel

>End result is they become scidal because they were turned down BY A scide HELP LINE, which is the opposite of what a s–cide help line should be doing.

True fucking story. You can not depend on them, because they don't give a FUCK.

scide hotlines only exist to catch people who become a threat to themselves or others, so that they can record you admitting that you want to do something dangerous so that they can get you in a time of weakness and ask you for or datamine your home location and send a looney van to force already depressed and miserable scidal people into an even more miserable and depressing mental hospital where they are forced to take drugs "until they feel better"

Does anyone know any free depression (not s–cide) helplines?

>>6468

Problems with taking pharmaceutical drugs, illegal drugs, or drinking to "feel better"

>Focusing on false happiness gained by becoming intoxicated makes you even more depressed in the long run because you become sick with the dishonesty and artificiality of it all

>Using fake happiness as an opportunity to create true meaning to give you the strength to crawl out of a pit of depression is like taking illegal steroids to get big muscles.

If you need to be drugged to find some kind of meaning, That's evidence that you couldn't find any meaning in the first place. (Which is why you are depressed) You're not broken. You're being honest with yourself about the fact that the world around you is broken. Bad environment-Bad feelings. Naturally! If you are depressed, you are having a healthy reaction to an unhealthy world. It's not your fault. The world is just a bad place full of bad people. You probably feel bad, because you are a good person in a bad place. You are better than everyone else because you actually realized what was going on. You observed the world around you and came to the conclusion that it's a bad place faster than everyone else. You are a good seed that can't grow into a good tree because you are in bad soil. Pushing pills on depressed people is like throwing the night watchman in jail for spotting a burglar or yelling at the canary in the coal mine for getting poisoned by the gas. It's literal victim blaming. People are being treated as the main criminals in the cause of their own depression and thrown under the bus and ignored. Nobody seems to take all of these sad people as a warning flag for the state wellbeing of not just their country, but of the whole world. If all these people are so sad and miserable, there must be a very big reason. The world we live in is sick, and depressed people (among the many other people with other problems) are just a symptom. So yet again, the pharmaceutical companies are perpetually treating the symptom of the disease for endless profit, and nobody cares to find the root causes of the problems we all face. Nobody wants to make a cure.

What's the difference between a person on antidepressants and a meth addict?

The meth addict admits the world around them is bad

Tell me something- If taking drugs and antidepressants doesn't actually make the world around you become a better place, Is it actually making your own self a worse place so that you don't notice the difference anymore?

People don't take drugs or drink to make their problems go away, People take drugs or drink so that they can forget and lie to themselves about the problems they can't fix.

If most of these drugs have side effects including increased risk of s–cidal thoughts, It's no wonder at all! Being dishonest with yourself makes you feel sick to your stomach.

It is Bad to feel Good about being in a Bad place.

The truth is that just like eating unhealthy junk makes the body fat or sick, experiencing a junky and unhealthy experience around us makes our soul feel sick.

You are not broken, WE are not broken, but rather the world around us is broken.

"It is no measure of good health to conform to an ill society."

>Life sucks

>Because the world sucks

>Have healthy reaction to unhealthy world by obviously feeling bad

>HERE DUMBASS TAKE A PILL!

>What does it do?

>It fucks with your brain chemistry to trick you into feeling like everything is really alright when it obviously isn't!

>Really!?

>No! there's more!

>Next you will slowly realise how dishonest with yourself the pill is forcing you to be by making you pretend to feel happy when really deep inside you feel REALLY bad because now you aren't even expressing yourself and are bottling up your depression inside!

>by the way, these pills increase the risk of s–cidal thoughts!

If I need to take a drug or pay some therapist $100 an hour to help me cloud my judgement enough to get myself to do something I wouldn't normally do, It's probbaly something I wasn't doing for a very good reason.

>>6469

>Meanwhile

>Millions and Billions of intelligent critically thinking kids with excellent observation and reasoning and THINKING skills depressed because the world around them is a very bad environment

>They are empathetic and so they FEEL bad

>They FEEL

>They THINK

>This is a problem for the swampy deep state because people who feel will eventually try to fix what was wrong that made them feel bad for it is only human nature to try to fix and improve things.

>The thing is that people don't understand or aren't taught by anyone that the feeling isn't a bad thing. The feeling is just a warning system to alert you to something that is wrong in the bigger picture. It's okay to feel feelings, and feelings help you better understand whats going on, but the source of those feelings must absolutely be acknowledged; but this becomes a problem when people are not allowed, and even punished for trying to solve the problems that made them feel bad.

>Just shut up, eyes forward, stay in line, don't question, don't ask, don't wonder, and don't you dare talk out of turn, and dare you not ever even hope to dream a single dream of something greater.

>Instead we are taught that an unjust world is just, and we are taught that our FEELINGS are BAD, and that people who have FEELINGS are WEAK. This is a great and terrible deception.

>FEELINGS and THOUGHTS are falsely defamed as DISEASES that must be cured with poison that is dressed as medicine as wolf is dressed in sheeps clothing.

>At best you are left with a person UNTHINKING and UNFEELING that cares not and loves not for anything. An apathetic zombie. a person who doesn't even know they're alive walking with the mask of a fake smile.

>very sad.

>At worst, you get an apathetic deranged person who does terrible bad things and ends up in the news (Guess what most of them were taking with a glass of water every day)

>We are living in a world where people are being deceived into having their empathy disabled with drugs to fool them into believing that they are in a state of "healthy coping" or false recovery as their lies towards themselves become more and more profound until they just don't care anymore because they can't anymore. People who can't care about anything having absolutely nothing left, and people who have absolutely nothing left are not held within the bounds of any moral or ethical code, and are capable of doing anything.

>This is of course, a very bad thing.

>Imagine a world where everyone is this way.

>There is not a single person left that cares about anything.

>A complete and total lack of self awarenesss and awareness in general of anything and everything. emptyness and nothing beyond.

>This is the end goal of the satanic globalist communist socialist atheist democrat liberal left and their dirty rotten swampy deep state.

They will fail. God will win. God always wins.

I'm not a doctor or a mental health professional, or any kind of professional in any way. Ask your doctor and mental health professional before stopping or starting anything, or doing or not doing anything.

>>6470

Different quotes by others anons from a very long time ago.

>"The vast majority of people still send their kids to these places. It boggles my mind how such ignorance could be so copious. I remember being on the bus one day, there was a girl with her mother. She was crying because she was scared to go to school. The mother started yelling at her and made her go anyway. I don't understand the kind of depravity that would allow a person to do such a thing. I went to school everyday with tears in my eyes and came back with tears in my eyes. It was hell. I wouldn't wish that nightmare on anyone. And yet almost everyone has to go through it."

>"I legit was just thinking a little earlier today how furious i was that I was forced to waste the most developmental time of my life learning absolute garbage. 12 years of grade school and they legitimately teach you nothing practical. American schools, and i'm assuming most European, are not institutions of education, but rather behavior modification and social conditioning. Its really tragic"

>Every time something bad happens in my life I just remember "At least I'm out of high school"

>Fired from my job? "At least I'm out of high school."

>Someone treats me like garbage? "That ain't half as bad as when I was in high school."

>"High schooler here, and there's also other points being missed here. Not only is it making the idea of education less fun, it is getting more intense all the time now. Now everything needs to be higher; you need higher test scores, you need higher SAT scores, you need to decide what you want to do at a younger age, yaddayaddayadda. The point is that most kids arent ready for this decision in their life and will either pick the easy way, and end up trying and failing for sports, or trying to be a high acheiver. the problem is that this level of education is too much. The stress and sheer amount of information being crammed into our heads is too much. I have considered su--de many times and would cry myself to sleep often just because of the pressure. Its just stupid that people would do this to children just because its normal and if we dont like it too bad."

>"mfw I just found out that they're phasing out recess and pizza from public school

>year-round schooling is being pushed hard"

>"I'm becoming a teacher, and you know what they tell us?

>Don't use big words, that confuses the children (they're 12-14).

>Don't give insight, give information.

>Don't let them question, let them learn.

>You can't discuss, you can't debate. You can only assess what's given to you. No multiple interpretations, no critical thinking.

>It's fucked up, and I'm quitting after this year. Fuck this educational system, fuck it all. Starting my own company instead of wasting 45k in 4 years to get a worthless piece of toilet paper."

>Is private school any better than public?

>some may be, but a large amount of them are just like public schools with the name "private" slapped on top.

>the sad part is that alot of these are not in the normal part of the system so abuse happens almost constantly.

>the people that work there get degrees in psychology and then use that knowledge to mentally torture kids and punish those who don't conform to force."

>>6471

>any kid that doesn't confrom/follow orders mindlessly in school is taken to a psychologist and diagnosed with ADD and ADHD and OCD so they can drug them up with prozac (mostly fluoride) and ritalin and every other fucked up drug that should never be given to a child with a developing brain.

>then the kid zones out and behaves like a zombie and feels sad all the time so they diagnose them with bipolar depression and give them even more drugs. kids are being treated like numbers and cattle at school to pass as many tests as possible without learning a single thing and making money for pharmaceutical companies

>My parents insisted on me going to psychiatrists and every single one of them requested that I take some SSRI.

>They would talk to me for like 4 minutes before dispensing whatever evil concoction pfizer was pushing that month.

>Its also funny how every single psychiatrist would push a different type of pill. One of them wanted me on Cypralex, the second one said wellbutrin, and lastly seroquil.

>These idiots actually said I need seroquil, a fucking anti-psychotic. They even gave me some defacto diagnoses of having psychosis because I was strongly against taking SSRI's, because you know, not trusting big pharma must mean that I'm crazy.

>"this is exactly what happened to me I'm archiving this thread and showing my therapist tomorrow. Serious as fuck"

>"that's good. may the world be exposed to it's own shit it has taken on the carpet. may the worlds face be rubbed into it like a bad dog until it stops and realizes that shitting the carpet is for bad doggos only.

>everyone in the world needs to know that some seriously deep and fucked up emotional, psychological, and physical, and dare I even say spiritual abuse is taking place in school, college, and educational institutions and it is being carried out not only by other students, but by teachers and staff as well.

>It is time that we all accept the fact that we have been ignorant as a society to the truth that school and college is where the souls of our children are sent to die."

>"It's very simple: those who can't do, teach with few exceptions, full-time school teachers are the most egotistical and incompetent people to be part of society.

>They punish students for "being smart" – translated as using their critical thinking ability and creativity to expose the holes in said teacher's logical process.

>They punish students for defending themselves and being self reliant.

>They punish students for original thought.

>It's better to learn from those who actually do, like your parents or your retired elders in a multi-generational household, than it is to learn from one of these parasites."

>"I can say with confidence that Zero-Tolerance policies (specifically the ones regarding fighting, which discourage standing up against bullies) are one of the many things responsible for creating a generation of idiots and sociopaths.

>>6472

More from the past

I started getting bullied since before I was 8 years old. It only got worse as time passed. Every single day was a struggle not to lash out at the people who physically and verbally abused me. I was pretty big for my age (part of the reason they picked on me), and my parents told me that they would not be mad at me for defending myself against them (though they never actively pushed me to do so), but I knew that I would get suspended or worse if it came to blows. Ultimately, I was more scared of my teachers and principal than I was of my peers. I was unable to stand up for myself as a student, and the principle/teachers did absolutely fuckall. Very often a bully would start hitting me when they knew a teacher or employee of the school would be intentionally not giving any attention to anything in my general direction, not because they were tired or careless, rather they knew that trouble always followed me and they behaved like cowards and became intentionally lazy, unwanting to deal with the bullies that constantly harassed me. The pompous, pretentious, hypocrites would pretend they were being smart by "allowing the problem to resolve itself". When I would bring up my hands to cover my head and face from the attacks the teacher would only then decide to pretend to notice that I lifted my hands, not to strike, but to cover my own body in self defense without any offense in any way, and the teacher would immediately punish me and send me to detention.

How DARE I protect myself from people who had the unspoken ability to be completely invisible to teachers and other figures of authority that could never insult reality by wearing such a title. My parents would contact the school and say "Hey, why are you letting my child be psychologically tortured by his classmates?" and the school would feed them some horse shit like "We're doing everything we can to help him!" Either way, they'd sooner suspend one kid for beating the shit out of someone than suspend half of a class for mistreating that kid. There was nothing being done, nothing could have been done without me being punished, so I just took everything they threw at me, and they never held back." The amount of homework being given every single day, every weekend, every holiday break, was becoming hateful and abhorrent. The amount of books students were required to drag painfully around the school on their young undeveloped backs and shove into undersized and strategically meticulously systematically tiny undersized and inconveniently placed lockers far from each and every single classroom equally, was becoming too much for me. I had straight A's and they all dropped to F's in a very short period.

My parents, brainwashed by psychologists and therapists forced me to take several kinds of "medications" that I "needed" so that I could "do better" and "feel better" played games with my young developing brain's chemisty and my hormones and constantly simulated a physical emotional experience of feelings I can only describe as literally being in hell. The side effects where literally anything you could have imagined. I gained weight from it all, and the stress. I was 150 pounds overweight and malnourished and flushed all my pills one day and promised I would never take another pill from these shitty fake doctors ever again. I spend some time in a mental hospital as they tried to convince me I needed them, but I didn't give in and thank GOD there wasn't much more they could force upon me, so they let me go. I changed my life and lost a ton of weight and now I warn people about school and how fucked up this shitty terrible nightmare we live in a system designed to cultivate unrelenting suffering and psychological slavery. I warn people because I have hope. I want to change this fucked up world one word at a time.

"Public schools are corrupt. I used to live in a state where attendance was mandatory.

Was bullied every single day until I just got sick of it at quit going to school. A couple weeks later I was sitting in a court, fined about 700 dollars, put on probation for an entire year of my life, and forced to go to school. I ended up missing a week to grieve for my grandfather but they decided I took too long and threw me in a juvenile detention center for a whole month. I was finally able to get off probation after forcing myself to go classes and do 48 hours of community service, it was a huge load off my mind. One day at school, one of my "friends" was caught selling weed to other students and had his mom's pills in his locker. You know what he got? 2 days suspension. He had shit grades, but he attended school, and that's all that matters to them."

>>6473

"The most infuriating part about bullies is the double standard where they never ever seem to get in trouble for their behavior, but anyone who dares stand up to them is slammed down with an iron fist, could it be part of the government agenda? are they doing this on purpose to force people to accept "their place in society" early on?"

A large part of the problem is that the school system ACTIVELY weeds out good teachers. The whole process is bogged down with so much bureaucracy that any teacher who actually tries gets swamped by the amount of useless paperwork that they have to do. It breaks people who just want to teach and leaves only teachers who don't even try.

Almost every teacher at any school does not fill out all the paperwork they're supposed to and the ones that are will likely quit soon. The whole thing has created a massively negative atmosphere around teaching. Parents, for good reasons, see a lot of teachers as dumb and unreasonable because of this weeding out of anyone half decent and that mindset weeds out even more teachers because the parents hate you. The whole thing is horrible and anyone who actually wants to teach should not become a teacher.

I had a teacher like this freshman year for honors english the whole year. He was the first adult to say "question everything I say", and would sprinkle lies into conversation to see if people would question the things he'd tell us. I learned about Ayn Rand and tons of other philosophy for the first time in this class. He was a real ass dude, former veteran, I still talk to him sometimes. All he asked of us was to contribute to discussion

someone else with a similar good teacher:

My history teacher in high school freshman&sophomore years. Always asked questions such as why would this happen or why did that happen. I found out about a year ago that he lost his job because students were complaining that he was asking too much from them.

School is supposed to prepare children for the future, but is in fact a grinder where children go through, eventually coming out tired, weak, apathetic, and often depressed, we're all a victim of such, but often they point out to "successful" children who made it far in life thanks to "education". And it often turns out these people are robots or simple workaholics, but the average child is bound to crack and lose that spark of life, I cracked fairly early on and I lost said spark, but I managed to recover it after I finished high school and spent a couple years on my own reflecting in more important things coming to the conclusion that all that time spent in school could have been used to grow and develop as a human being, physically, emotionally and psychologically, it's terrifying to think that school kept me from experiencing life at its fullest and grow alongside it. So the average male nowadays does not start to fully develop until their early to mid 20s. I often like to pretend I was born while in my 20s, in an attempt to forget my wasted childhood.

people that work in both public and private education and even in psychology and therapy and in rehab and mental hospitals all choose those jobs on purpose because it places them in a position of power where they can gain pleasure from intentionally cucking others over and over again every single day. in their minds, it's loosh farming (even though that doesn't really exist) but that's what those sick fucks actually believe. it's a cult of psychological torture that most of them knowingly choose to be a part of and they actually believe their actions have no consequences. if they do not choose the job, they are chosen by the job. specific types of people like these are searched for intentionally and then hired. soulless mind dead pleb husks "normal people" can sense when you are different and then decide if they consider you a threat and then act on it, even when you only want to be nice. they will compete with you rabidly for things they are insecure about, without you even understanding wtf their bullshit is coming from. these normal people grow up to fill positions in these jobs. it's a field of poisonous weeds that are being grown to be trained by the previous generation of poisonous weeds to become their replacements in a repeating cycle of hate that breeds more and more hate. the global interests want this.