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 No.1163

Written: March 20, 2020.

I do not cite sources. Nor do I list timestamps. The story is roughly in order, but that's not as important as the message.

COVID19: Extreme incompetence

It didn't help that the Wuhan government lied and hid the initial outbreak. However, as the Chinese realized how bad the disease was, they shut down the city and most of China. Their efforts to curb the outbreak were successful, but too much time from the initial infections had passed and they had to wait a long time for the city to get under control.

The World Health Organization, WHO, declared a world wide outbreak too late, but was ignored by most countries. Only Asian countries with significant number of infections reacted early. The rest of the world played the "wait and see" game, and some still are. This shows that the WHO reacts only after the fact, and has no role in preventing pandemics whatsoever.

No one trained for this. There are no experts in handling world wide plagues. There are no manuals or procedures in place to deal with this. The people who learned from the 1918 epidemic are all in their graves now. What we have today is extreme incompetence.

We have "experts" in different countries, who are free to ignore recommendations by WHO. The only recourse the rest of the world has in this case is to put strict travel restrictions in place in and out of these countries.

Ineffective quarantine measures will take longer, and cost more, than if people just do what China and Asian countries are doing. Not applying quarantine measures is condemning a lot of people to death. I'm looking at you Sweden.

Testing

Some people are acting like the numbers from test kits are absolute. No SARS-CoV-2 test kit is 100% reliable. There are always some false positives and false negatives.

False negatives mean that apparently healthy people who test negative can still be infectious.

False positives mean that people with or without symptoms, maybe be inaccurately diagnosed with COVID19.

Joe Public

What we have seen of Joe Public, and how he behaves in the face of a disaster is this: invisible threat like a virus is not real. Tangible threat like running out of food and toiler paper is real.

No matter how people have been warned, they have not stayed away from public gatherings. Only enforced quarantine measures have been effective at curbing this behavior.

Because people's first thought is to deal with the tangible threat, they put themselves in risk of a viral infection to deal with it. This manifests in crowded supermarkets and mass gatherings for government handouts.

Only strict enforcement of social distances such as by police and/or military will control this behavior.

In the face of a viral threat, particularly when infected people show no symptoms, Joe Public does not display self protective behavior. We've seen this all around the world.

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 No.1164

Economy

The economy did not lose billions of dollars due to the plague. The plague happened and they were never going to get that money anyway. Businesses don't have a right to exist. Profit is not guaranteed at any moment in time. Just because you can't predict an epidemic doesn't mean it can't happen. And your own inability to plan for the worst is no one to blame but yourself.

Everyone and their dog is now asking for government handout, because they didn't plan for a slight disruption in their income. This is both indviduals and corporations. In some cases, the government will comply. In some cases they want to preserve corparations, in others they want to help people buy food because they have no income.

Blaming the government for quarantine measures and loss of income is not productive. Your inability to keep savings and prepare for a disaster is where the blame lies.

That said, some people are too poor to keep savings. That is a reality we must face, and governments and charities all around the world need to help these people with basic necessities.

Tourism

There will be extreme pressures on governments to allow travel to and from tourist areas. This pressure will be very high in areas where the whole economy revolves around tourism. However, tourism is not a right. There is no guarantee that people will want to visit any given place on the planet. Just because an area has been a tourist spot before the outbreak does not mean it will continue to be a tourist spot after the outbreak.

Allowing air travel too soon, in face of false negatives from test kits, is irresponsible. Our health and well being is more important than risking another outbreak.

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 No.1165

=Europe==

As I write this, different countries in the European Union, EU, are taking different measures. Most or all of them are ineffective. The fact that different countries are taking different measures should tell us something: Europe is not united in the fight against the plague.

The UK is ignoring the recommendations by WHO and even though Italy was an earlier adopter of strict quarantine measures the Chinese Red Cross delegation says Italy is not doing enough to contain the virus.

Many countries in the EU do not have quarantine measures in place. This means that those who do will have an even bigger problem getting rid of the virus than if all the countries applied quarantine measures at the same time.

USA

As I write this, the USA is applying ineffective quarantine measures. I know this because such decisions as whether to have public libraries open or closed are taken at the county level. Those counties that still allow public libraries to be open have an effective infection center in place. The nation wide "quarantine" is also too short to contain the virus; two weeks is not enough.

People are blaming Trump for the ineffective measures. Frankly, I believe the blame rests with the CDC as well. They're either incompetent, ineffective, or both. Both are really, really bad.

Some states seem to be taking more active measures than others. This is the same folly we see in Europe. Even if one state does something to curb the outbreak, other states will not, and this will result in an overall mess.

Europe vs. USA

So at the moment, we have a competition across the Atlantic Ocean: who can have the highest infection rate and death count?

Because not everyone is tested, and only confirmed COVID19 cases will be listed as official, we do not have, and may never have, an accurate infection count. We will probably have an accurate death count though, but that's not certain.

Nevertheless, it'll be interesting to see which one will win this competition. We just have to keep in mind that the numbers aren't absolute.

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 No.1166

The Muslim World

So far, the Muslim world hasn't done much to curb the outbreak, maybe with the exception of the UAE. Since they don't seem to be taking any action nor test sufficiently, we cannot rely on their official numbers. Neither now nor after the fact. But as I write this, it looks like they will win both Europe and the USA in the infection rate and death count.

Resurgence

It is not surprising that areas where the virus has gotten under control has a resurgence as they open up for travelers again. Commercial flight was never designed for quarantine measures. The airplanes are designed to pack the most number of people into as little space as possible. The airports similarly, to handle a large number of people efficiently. These places are not designed to keep people apart and keep infections from spreading.

Using them in a world wide plague is simply irresponsible.

Airlines do not have a right to exist. It's perfectly OK for them to go bankrupt. Air travel for individuals is not a right. Stop acting like the world will end if air travel isn't returned as soon as possible. Our health and safety is more important.

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 No.1172

File: 86fed3b6a394ef1⋯.jpeg (119.61 KB, 960x502, 480:251, 246852DC_C953_441D_9607_4….jpeg)

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>muh wuhan

>muh novel virus

Fuck off kike

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 No.1178

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