/x/ - Paranormal

Quite condescending of you to assume that one can hardly be one as well as the other. Unless you're coming from a "we all good, they all evil" paradigm, why would you assume that luciferians have no loyalty?

>>47819

I dint say that.

https://archive.org/details/otto_rahn_-_lucifer_39_s_court_1_scan_-_1_pdf

Former. Current Gnostic Christian

>Actively, deliberately, consciously choosing the losing team

LOL!!!

>>47862

Are you sure about that?

>>47872

+1

Nature is adversarial in essence. It seems this anon >>47862 can't handle the fact that his death cult is losing. The god of Christ is the same divinity as that of Abraham and Mohammed. Christians and muslims hate each other anyways. Atleast he's got a sense of humour.

>>47874

>Nature is adversarial in essence.

The fact that you're alive proves that this is not true. If nature was conspiring against you, you wouldn't exist, and neither would other forms of life most likely.

>>47876

Chaos out of order. Order out of chaos. What doesn't kill me and all that. The universe is very much adversarial. Joy exists only in contrast to sorrow, bliss only in contrast to pain. Eternal bliss is as much death as is eternal pain.

>conspiring against you

Recognizing the paradox isn't the same as paranoia. And in any case, if nature *wasn't* a scheming bitch you would live forever or not at all because there would be no need for anything to exist at all. Man created shelter out of the need to overcome the adversity of natural forces such as storms. Man created tools and weapons out of the need to overcome the danger of animals and tribes having an advantage. Agriculture to overcome the danger of animals and edible plants going extinct. If there was no inherent adversity in existence, life would be blissfully boring. Everything would be perfect and there would be nothing to do.

Or why is it that the greatest works of accomplishment are created by individuals wracked by mental and physical illness? Nietzsche created the Uebermensch and was plagued his whole life by heavy migraines. Mozart died a drunkard and was heavily mistreated by his father as a child, Beethoven went deaf. Their art lives on. The examples of people overcoming adversity and reaching before-unseen heights are endless. Because of AND despite their illnesses did they reach greatness. Bones that broke once, break less easily.

So yes, nature is adversarial. Adversity is not the same as a desire for annihilation. Death cultists have a desire for annihilation. Life cultists have a desire for the perpetuation of the status quo. The status quo imo is that the show doth go on.

What's your explanation then for the problem of evil? Pure sadism on the part of the universe?

MICHAEL AQUINO IS GOD

>>47877

>Joy exists only in contrast to sorrow, bliss only in contrast to pain. Eternal bliss is as much death as is eternal pain.

That doesn't sound very "adversarial" to me, though. It's just the harmony of opposites that Heraclitus (and other philosophers) have talked about. There only seem to be contradictions and opposites from the individual's point of view, but from a greater perspective, those differences disappear or rather, cancel each other out.

>And in any case, if nature *wasn't* a scheming bitch you would live forever or not at all because there would be no need for anything to exist at all.

We don't really know why anything exists at all, in fact that's probably the hardest problem any person can try to solve. Maybe because it's not a problem in the first place, and it's our fault for making it into one.

About living forever… well, that's just the consequence of the fact that everything is constantly moving, every atom, and anything that moves is going to break down sooner or later. But without movement, there couldn't be life. Anyway, we might be able to become immortal eventually by learning how to repair the damage done to our bodies by aging. I'm going to reply to the rest of your post later.

>>47879

We essentially agree then, except for on the semantics. Merriam-webster defines adversarial as follows: : involving two people or two sides who oppose each other : of, relating to, or characteristic of an adversary or adversary procedures.

Light is the adversary of dark. Joy of pain. Life of death. Ultimately it creates harmony through the interplay of the opposing principles.

>but from a greater perspective, those differences disappear or rather, cancel each other out

I would call it complimenting each other but again: absolutely yes in principle, the semantics matter little.

>We don't really know why anything exists at all

Agreed. However, in my opinion there has to be some greater sense to it all, even if as parts of the whole one cannot see the whole. A screw doesn't "know" whether it holds together car parts, a phone, or something else. Nonetheless the screw can recognize itself as holding something together. Sort of how through synchronicity a lyric of some song can have immense personal meaning, even though the artist never had you or your personal meaning in mind.

>and it's our fault for making it into one

I love semantics. *it's our privilege to make it into one

All heil donald duck, our path shower who will lead us out of this slump!!