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File: 91aaf84ed1f8402⋯.jpg (85.74 KB, 806x1022, 403:511, Xi4XBxG6w6KhAPdk7P8Zpjd7bh….jpg)

 No.44995

Do you actually believe any of this stuff or is it that you want to believe it because it makes existence more interesting?

 No.44999

I believe I'll get trips.


 No.45000

>>44999

Wow, this could never happen to me again.


 No.45006

Casually.

>>44999

>>45000

OP BTFO.


 No.45020

File: 01dfb6b17ca0f1f⋯.png (1.47 MB, 2632x2948, 658:737, owls.png)

Do you believe mankind is the only sentience in existence? The smartest thing the totality of existence could produce is humanity at its present stage? The only dimension in which life exists is the 3d-world we experience? You'll see it when you believe it And in truth, you can believe anything. Your reality-tunnel is yours to choose, build, extend, expand, minimize, kill, etcetc. Wrongthink is yours to ignore. Propaganda is yours to consume.

So tell me friend: which game will you play? And if you think there's a real game to be played compared to all others, a ==REALEST== game, oh boy are you in for a ride. There are lies, truths, The Lie™, and maybe there is The Truth. I sure as fuck don't know, but I believe to know that knowing is believing without knowing that you only believe.

Reality is a hell of a drug.


 No.45023

File: a685a9f6041d565⋯.jpg (70.51 KB, 720x404, 180:101, go home jack.jpg)

>>45020

That picture makes plenty of sense. I'd believe it, I'd believe it all.


 No.45024

>>45000

>>44999

Science can't explain this. It's over for skepticalfags.


 No.45026

File: f5ebce7f02c0308⋯.jpg (3.12 MB, 1600x5632, 25:88, poisonmakesthedosage.jpg)

>>45023

There's a lot to believe. A lot of it contradictory. It just depends on how you want to go out, how you want salvation to happen, how you think salvation is best achieved for you. Or everyone if you're a zealot.

Personally I like honeypotianism because it puts a fun spin on the whole "we're all doomed because god doesn't care or is dead, cosmic horror is real" narrative which seems to be the most prevalent nowadays. It teaches you to swallow the paradox whole. Salvation through confusion. However I'm not a missionary trying to convert only a little bit

If you really want to believe it all you might want to look into syncretism, but astro-theology can be spooky. Then again, global politics are spooky as fuck so yeah. As well as any science once you go deep and broad enough. The Paradox seems to be the only constant.

Pick your poison and work your way up. Start small, start big, work backwards or forwards, noone will care but you, the universe will pick for you if you don't, and choosing not to choose is still a choice. Not believing in choice is ironically enough also a choice. Do as thou wilt, learn what you want, believe as you please. You are yours to take and give away. Order does matter because matter is order. Or not. Hail Eris. And Satan. And all the other dogs who make men demand respect for them at gunpoint.

I'm an edgy relativist-philosophyfag I know I know, but I'm a relative absolutist, not an absolute relativist


 No.45027

Little of column A, little of column B.


 No.45028

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>>45020

I tried reading all of that, but fucking hell… Nothing new or interesting, just some LARPer stringing anons along.

Do Hollywood and the government try to influence how people act and think? Sure, that seems reasonable and likely.

But this faggot going on about false memories due to Hollywood films is just full of BS. By his logic, even classical poetry in which heroes defeat monsters and villains would likewise influence the audience.

>>44995

Nah, I'm here for the spoopy greentext stories and horror recommendations mostly. Having a serious discussion about ghosts and whatnot is an added bonus.


 No.45031

>>45028

I'm pretty sure its proven fact that images have a much more intense impact on the psyche than sounds. MK-Ultra was never shut down, just broken up and repackaged. If you have some time to spare I highly recommend "the minds of men" on youtube. MKultra was way way more than just giving lsd to unknowing subjects to see the effects and creating manchurian candidates. The mission afaik was to literally basically figure out how to fully brainwash people and remote-control them via all means possible. So like trigger-words, predictive programming and straight-up direct personality-creation. It was all aspects of the mind you could possibly think about.

Tbh it sounds like you're into anime and wouldn't want to accept that you've been subject to a sophisticated form of brainwashing. No use in getting mad about this stuff, especially people who you think are larping.

The dude is definitely not bullshitting when stating that propaganda techniques used in say Germany are way more advanced than what is being used in the US. Take it from me that the media in my country is extremely "gleichgeschaltet" and completely drenched in the transatlantic narrative. And I mean completely immersed in EU/Bilderberg/Transatlantic-bridge propaganda. Literally no matter whether it's boulevard fox/cnn level shit or "higher journalism" of the WaPo type.

https://youtu.be/LQucESRF3Sg that's the documentary, it's really worth it if you're honestly interested in mk-ultra

btw I love Alex Jones. Controlled opposition par excellence. Bill Hicks is dead; long live Alex Jones


 No.45034

>>45031

Well obviously there's lots of pro establishment propaganda, but how does it follow that it influences us in ways that aren't obvious (obvious being, legitimate looking and supposedly accomplished and knowledgeable man presents opinion to audience which has no previous rationale for being incredulous = they tend to believe him, and more talking heads repeating = greater reinforcement)? If it's even more advanced in your country, than how have you managed to evade them, surely you must have consumed a great deal of what should have been mind-influencing media before you found out more about this process?

I'm not who you replied to, but I watch a lot of Dragon Ball and I trust the government less with each passing day.

>>45028

>I'm just here for the spoops

I know that feel, but I want to believe.


 No.45037

>>45028

Classical poetry was pretty much about influencing the audience in some ways. Role models and social standards, etc. Everyone is recommended to look up to the hero, not looking up to the turtle they found by the pond. People are born knowing nothing, so some social direction is good, or everyone would basically be know-nothings or even feral if there was no storytelling to help explain the world. Everything about the world is influential in a way as you can't really avoid thinking about the world you interact with. So it's not like a full blown mind control, just a subtle form of influence through putting scenarios in movies that people can think on.


 No.45038

>>44995

I believe only in bits and pieces of certain things posted on here, mostly because they are plausible once you consider that information. It is unlikely that humans are the only intelligent life in the universe, it is likely that there are events that our scientific knowledge and capabilities cannot explain, and that there are private or governmental groups keeping information away from the public. However, there is even more things that are just too difficult to believe for me, but interesting to read, think about, and discuss.

>>45023

If MkUltra or its equivalent supposedly succeeded, thane why would CIA want to make society less stable and increasingly more hostile towards and critical of the country and its government?

>>45031

Kraut leadership always had a penchant for propaganda going back centuries, and German population always seemed quite susceptible to being controlled.


 No.45039

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>>45038

Why does the dungeon master invent monsters for the hero to fight? A less stable society makes their job more interesting and challenging.


 No.45041

I'm mostly here for the spooky stories.

While I don't buy into much that could be considered "paranormal," I do find the whole field to be genuinely interesting. Strange accounts, unexplained phenomena. All that stuff captures my attention, despite my hesitation to believe the more outlandish explanations.


 No.45042

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>45031

>btw I love Alex Jones. Controlled opposition par excellence.

If he was controlled opposition, why would they remove him from every social media platform they control, and try to strangle him financially? He has effectively been depersoned.

>>45037

I would argue that back in the day, when heroic poetry was the major source of entertainment, it would be far easier to control people. People could not look up things in an encyclopedia or online to confirm something they had been told; rampant superstition and illiteracy meant that the ruling elite had a much firmer grip on what people believed.

And to expand on my earlier post, while I mainly come here for the spoopy stories, I do somewhat believe in certain fringe theories, or things that don’t fit the current narrative: bloodmemories or inherited memories passed down in the DNA, extraterrestrial life seems certain (though I don’t think there is much of a chance we ever make contact with an advanced alien race), that the ‘out of Africa’ theory is wrong and only upheld because of political reasons, the possibility that we are currently in a simulated reality, &c.


 No.45086

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>>45034

I guess it comes down to chance. I come from a weird half-esoteric half-bureaucratic family. I remember as a young child, around 12 or so, I was outside with my lawyer father and I saw one of those anarchist grafittis and it said something like "the state is the biggest criminal organization" and I sort of made a joke about it to my father and asked why they would write that and my father dead-serious said to me "because it's true". And then on my mother's side I have a sort of shaman-type "flow" passed through. It's not that I managed to evade it, I was just blessed with complimentary crazy parents. My mother is quite gullible concerning politics and history, my father quite gullible concerning anything outside politics and law and history, so I grew up never really knowing what to believe and always being curious. In my opinion it really comes down to what you choose to believe, and that will then manifest more or less. I chose a long time ago that subjectivity is real but objectivity should be possible. So yeah, call it blessed or chance or whatever, but belief absolutely matters and I believe that the government spooks can be beaten. if you want to go into it I also believe that apotheosis is possible completely bonkers I know

>I trust the government less with each passing day

Everything under the heavens is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent - Mao Zedong

>>45038

Very susceptible yes, but kraut isn't kraut. Bavarians for example really are almost a different nation compared to say Hamburgians or Berliners or Cologneians. Personally I would say krauts are just really efficient at whatever they choose to do. They're a very industrial people. Of course you also have the Swiss and Austrians which are a thing to themselves, because they do not consider themselves german. Sort of like how americans speak english and yet would never consider themselves british.

>>45039

I would say it creates more chaos and thus sets free more energy potential but those are semantics. I agree.

>>45042

>why would they remove him from social media

Because the show must go on. The dialectic cannot be broken. The kayfabe must be maintained.

>strangle him financially

because that's what you would expect if he really was a dangerous whistleblowing truthtalker

>depersoned

He might be a mossad asset so it wouldn't matter, but that's afaik just speculation like everything concerning the world controllers. The dude's an actor, maybe one of the greatest comedians of all time. Watch some Bill Hicks clips on youtube. Bill Hicks is Alex Jones without the Rush Limbaugh persona.


 No.45107

OP is a journalist.


 No.45116

File: ef4dcd4c8306bdb⋯.gif (1.37 MB, 264x264, 1:1, costanza_implying.gif)

I believe in this stuff because I can easily get my head around it. The sad truth is, reality is much more difficult to describe and will forever be a mystery.


 No.45138

>>45042

Well then what would you expect of a semi-prominent figure who was genuine opposition? It's just that going by the rationale you're using here, confirming any public figure as genuine is effectively impossible.


 No.45285

>>45026

I don't get the point of images like this. Why are legitimate conspiracies mixed in with stuff like "JFK Killed Himself" which is a one-off joke video? Is it to discredit all of the included theories, or is it a weak attempt to "throw off" TPTB?


 No.45292

>>45000

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