/x/ - Paranormal

If Ayys are demons how come we never heard of demons described as ayys from ancient times and the first greys were reported in the 60s?

>>35429

True this is the of the final redpills on aliens but you have to change your understanding of what exactly hell is.

>>35433

reptilians

>>35429

It's the other way around. Demons are aliens. Ancient people just couldn't understand their superior technology so they thought they were supernatural beings.

>>35434

>reptilians

I was specifically talking about the greys

>>35448

The ancient depictions of demons were the work of artists who had never seen one themselves, and had probably never even spoken to someone who had seen them, so they weren't based on actual witness accounts like they are today.

>>35453

So what are some examples of people who saw and interacted with demons who described them as small grey humanoids with oversized cranium and big black eyes?

If these demons have been tormenting humanity from the beginning surely somebody must have spotted them before the 60s

>>35463

Demons can make their form anything they want, they are fallen angels, they lots of power

>>35435

Yeeeeeah no, anceint people didnt make up th3 pagan gods, they saw them with there eyes, all those gods are dead now tho

>>35802

all those "gods" were demons dumbass.

imagine a bunch of fallen angels with the ability to take any form (because they have no actual material form), each taking a shot at messing with stupid pagans before Christ comes

that is what the pre-Christian spiritual world is like, and still is like in many countries

>>35806

furthermore, imagine any of these demons just taking turns pretending to be thor or some shit. fallen angels have made fools of man for eons, don't fall for it.

but demons are christianshit they don't appear in healthier mythologies

>>35802

I never said they made them up. I agree that they saw them in person. I don't think those gods are dead, they're probably immortal or at least they live tens of thousands of years.

>>35806

Christianity is a fake religion.

>>35808

Islam has demons, and contrary to popular belief they do not consider demons and jinn to be one and the same. Their word for a demon is "shaitan".

Judaism has demons, though they believe demons aren't fallen and exist to test humanity. The Hebrew word for a demon is "shedim".

Ancient Greeks invented the word "demon", but used it to refer to any lesser spirit and had no connotation of evil. The word was adopted by the Abrahamic religions because the same spirits the Greeks believed to be benevolent persecuted nonbelievers.

Hindus have malicious spirits believed to be the punished souls of exceptionally evil people whose reincarnation was rejected, as well as fallen servants of the Hindu gods. They don't have a collective name though.

Baha'i believe that other faiths' demons are actually a metaphor for humanity's inherent bad traits.

Japanese mythology has a ton of supernatural beings, one of which being the akuma. The akuma is a flying, fiery humanoid with a sword that sows misfortune. Due to its similarity to fallen angels the word "akuma" is now synonymous with demons. Japan also used "mononoke" to refer to evil spirits in their own folklore.

Western European mythology had the Fair Folk. The name is a euphemism used because giving them a collective name would get their attention when used, and you did NOT want their attention.

Russians had a number of protective spirits that turned malevolent when people stopped believing in them. People started believing again… but they called them demons.

A vast majority of tribal cultures all over the world had their own word for malicious spirits. In fact, the Native Americans who first encountered European explorers thought they were evil spirits after seeing their unusually light skin, weapons completely alien to them (guns, ships, and cannons) and catching diseases they never developed herd immunity to after their arrival.

Many neopagans and new agers acknowledge the existence of malicious spirits, but believe them to be barely-sapient magical or psychic fallout from human emotion, and are completely allergic to the idea of such beings being smart enough to play the long con to gain a human's trust, or the idea of any other spirits they believe in harboring any kind of ill will toward humans.

Just because other beliefs and folklore don't use the word "demon" doesn't mean they don't have evil spirits.

>>35806

>>35807

When you look back on how foreign religions interacted a recurring pattern starts to stand out. In ancient cultures, the pagan gods were believed to focus their dominion on the society worshipping them, and honoring another nation's gods was a common act of respect. Christianity didn't do this, and for a very good reason too. The pagan gods who respected each other would actively resist Christianity, and when the Catholics tried to alleviate this by adopting their rituals and gods as holidays and saints the crossover saints undermined the church.

>>35825

Yes but those are all different concepts and it's irresponsible to call them "demons" because it invokes a christian filter with which to interpret them. If one were to say, "ayys are supernatural beings," that would be different.

>Ancient Greeks invented the word "demon", but used it to refer to any lesser spirit and had no connotation of evil. The word was adopted by the Abrahamic religions because the same spirits the Greeks believed to be benevolent persecuted nonbelievers.

Not quite, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Daemon_(classical_mythology)#Article_is_inaccurate

>>35819

ya, it just propped up western civilization (and, arguably IS western civ) for 2,000 years you cuck

>>35826

there are no other gods, it's all fallen angels, don't be a fool.

>>35825

Aren't japanese demons called oni?

>>35433

The first grays came in the early fourties. They started to come suddenly because of our involvement with nuclear weapons technology. Read a book for gods sake.

>>35847

I thought the first report of the grays was the abduction of Barney and Betty Hill in 1961

Was there any previous sighting?

>>35429

Nah aliens are really just time travelers from the very, very distant future… after the human race has already evolved into something that is no longer human. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: You can't.

Flesh or not, the important thing to know is that they serve Satan is the end

I am sure there are some good Ayy's out there; there have been good experiences with them before, but there is however such a thing called "treachery"

>>35900

How can they serve Satan when Satan doesn't exist and was invented by Christians?

>>35860

Actually, aliens are time travellers from the very, very distant past, when Earth was ruled by another species and this species' civilization had reached its ultimate peak, but it's been so long that the only remains of this species are fossilized skeletons, which modern scientists mistake for those of irrational animals.

>>35923

Star Trek Voyager is not a good show to base your gayyy lmao theories.

>>35429

This isn't anything new, OP. If you go through the conspiracy and UFO files over at textfiles.com, you'll find a lot of news articles from the late 80s about fundamentalist street preachers saying this very thing.

>>35923

Actually aliens are from the present… except they are from a parallel reality where the dinosaurs did not get BTFO by an asteroid. By our current year, they have evolved to the point where they don't even look like reptiles anymore. Since they are millions of years ahead of us in technological development, they figured out how to travel sideways in time (i.e. through parallel dimensions).

>>35806

My god wields a hammer your god was nailed to a cross.

Any questions?

>>35918

>>35919

Now THIS is interesting

>>35918

Ahahahaha, holy SHIT

I went on this site when I was in HIGH SCHOOL- I'm 33 now. Ahahahaha woah

>>36000

Interesting, source?

>>35982

But Odin was nailed to a tree too.

>>35429

Ayyyliens don't exist. Those grey things are bio-androids of some kind. Both them and those various flying crafts are created on earth by humans. The general public cannot even imagine the level of technology the elites possess, because most modern sheeple in their typical state of entitlement cannot even fathom that something big like that wouldn't be given, sold to, shared with or at last demonstrated to them by those at power, that's why whenever they see evidence of more advance technology they immediately assume it HAS to be ayyliens/angels/demons/etc.

>>36057

Exactly this. The only aliens here are from Earth and are older than us they are the reptilians. Where are the now? Just like all technologies they micronised their civilisation onto a data bank that is the size of an atom inside they live a simulated 6th dimensional paradise so technologically they made themselves into higher dimensional beings after discovering our reality is a sim. Only ever leaving on rare occasions mostly sending their grey droids out for maintaining the home simulation. Reptilians and greys can be misconstrued as demons because of their perceived irrational nature. Aliens are not controlling the world they are no threat to the established order an our rulers can’t fighing them because it would be like fighting shadows.

Sorry my guys. If we start talking about reptilians then we have gone off the deep end. Belief in Reptilians are a sign of insanity and a lack of reading the good book. Reptilians are sign that you've been smoking that good shit.

>>36292

Stfu more proof for reptilians than any other aliens. You just exposed yourself as a bluepilled namefag gtfo

>>36291

good post

>>36292

I'd imagine the most likely Ayyliens would be aquatic or amphibious. I mean, Reptiles are possible, but generally speaking I think they'd be a cold-blooded species that relies on the water. Oxygen is considered a corrosive ingredient in the history of life, but moreso aquatic/amphibious creatures tend to be able to survive in more extreme environments. The idea of a Mammalian inter-space species is hard to believe since more cold-blooded species would likely have less attachment to their young and thus less emotions getting in the way of acquiring the enlightenment of space travel.

>>36306

I wouldn't try to seriously imagine life on other planets based on how life evolved on earth in the first place

>>36316

Why? Asteroids from deep space have found microbial fossils similar to those found on Earth.

>>36321

What's the probability of life on another planet to follow the same evolutionary paths of Earth's life forms?

>>36327

Actually pretty similar if it's a carbon-based life form since there's only a handful of combinations it can feasibly follow. The number of appendages (if it even has any) might change, the skin might change, it might not develop eyesight or it might develop eyesight in a different wavelength depending on the size and color of the homeworld's sun, but unless the basic organic matter is different (silicon), it will still produce a similar result to carbon-based life on earth if it comes from the same roots. Sure there's freakish critters here on earth in the ocean, but generally speaking there's very few animals that show anatomy distinctly different from a few set models. Those few animals generally come from extreme condition environments where intelligent (perhaps the better term is "sapient") life is hard-pressed to be found.

If "ayys" are demons, then humans are also demons considering we are the same energy in our universe; the only difference is the ayys adapted differently befor using metaphysical tech to shape a better fractal of our universe.

>>35433

>how come we never heard of demons described as ayys from ancient times

Ayys in ancient times are more often Annunaki, whereas greys are a different adaptation of the same species altogether, the same as humans.

>>35434

>what exactly hell is

We are in hell. The physical side of our universe is hell.

>>35463

>If these demons have been tormenting humanity

If any adaptation of our universal species is tormenting the humans, its the Promethians. Annunaki controlled this planet, even if it were to prevent the planet from burning in self-inflicted hellfire; over time it was irresistible to enslave the species that actually believed they had control of their own planet.

>surely somebody must have spotted them before the 60s

Advancement is controlled, why do you think we only have biometric scanners on top-of-the-line smartphones now when we should already have replicators and medical beds? Humans are too idiotic to believe that there is anything more than they're told.

>>35825

>Just because other beliefs and folklore don't use the word "demon" doesn't mean they don't have evil spirits.

Accurate.

>>35847

>The first grays came in the early fourties

Yes.

>>35923

>>35860

>aliens are really just time travelers from the very, very distant future

>Actually, aliens are time travellers from the very, very distant past

Let me just clear something up quickly for you two: aliens are living on another fractal in our universe that has already experienced what we have, which basically means they are living in the future. This being said, they experienced the future at a time before we existed, so technically, you could say they're from the past.

OR you could drop the whole illusion of time thing and understand that there is no such thing; what we consider "the past" is simply a stage of our universe where it was less fractalised, and "the future" is a stage where it will become more fractalised. An ET can metaphysically travel back to a stage where the universe was less fractalised, but even if they happen to change anything, their future won't be any different. The only thing that will be different, is that a new variation of the same fractal has been developed. There is no such thing as time, so there is no such things as time travel; ETs have already experienced what we've experienced, but they did it before we did. Both of you are correct and incorrect at the same time.

>>36292

>a sign of insanity

We're on /x/ you whippersnapper! Do you think we came here to talk about the weather, sports and the economy? No, we came here to talk about insane shit like the Annunaki; where else are we going to do it?

>>36296

>more proof for reptilians

That's because the Drahk assigned Annunaki to this planet, other slave planets are led by other species, though most of the work is orchestrated by the Drahk.

>>36306

>I think [The Annunaki/Reptillians] be a cold-blooded species that relies on the water

The Annunaki were at threat of the entire planet being engulfed in hellfire based upon war, people had underground shelters. Over time, the fire continued and the Annunaki expanded their shelters until reaching other shelters. Eventually, the Annunaki had developed an underground community, then it evolved into a city; so on and so forth. The Annunaki adapted to the hot environment of their burning planet (reptillian skin), and living in the darkness underground (large, beady eyes).

>thus less emotions getting in the way of acquiring the enlightenment of space travel

Not quite, since majority of the species had fled underground and developed society there, they weren't being dominated by a government, meaning technology wasn't being held back before release to create profit; also, the fact that their planet was only heating up more and more gave the Annunaki reason to flee from the planet before they too were consumed by the hellfire around them.

>>36337

If even basic things such as appendages, skin and sensory perception are in discussion how do you assume they would develop following specific terrestrial taxonomic classes (amphibious, reptiles, mammalian)?

>>35826

all the demigods were nephelim

man, most of you guys are so stupid beyond any sort of help….

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>>36576

Great contribution!