d971c2 No.16874417[Last 50 Posts]
Why didn't you listen?
Virus is latin for Venom. Hideo Kojima correctly surmised that the one weapon to surpass Metal Gear and bring the world to its knees, would actually be one tiny little virus. But you dismissed the idea because you really wanted just a bigger mecha, and parasites were unusual and unfitting.
The world dies because we learned nothing.
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1a6ec7 No.16874428
this game wasn't good 5 years ago and it never will be
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29c604 No.16874460
>But you dismissed the idea because you really wanted just a bigger mecha
Well duh, who wouldnt want a bigger mecha?
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08eddd No.16874467
>>16874460
The Japanese suck at designing mechs. They're almost always flimsy and carry a big sword and are somehow able to travel very quickly through space and land alike. The only good looking Japanese mecha are Transformers. Besides that, the West outdoes them every time. Pic very much related.
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29c604 No.16874476
>>16874467
But anon, imperator titans arent mechas, they are a walking fortress.
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99f66c No.16874481
>>16874467
I'm not big into mecha. Don't even like Gundam. But I've never seen a western mecha that's outdone a japanese one in even design.
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ee90b2 No.16874490
>>16874467
No mech in any fiction makes sense physics wise so it's pointless to complain about that.
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8a5d2a No.16874500
people still care about metal gear?
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08eddd No.16874509
>>16874481
>I'm not big into mecha. Don't even like Gundam
So you know how much your opinion is worth? Pic related.
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3892e1 No.16874511
>>16874490
>No mech in any fiction makes sense physics wise
Mini-mechs would work fine in real life.
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522680 No.16874518
How dare you say I don't like parasites. I only support the cool ones.
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5a55bb No.16874520
>Comparing a parasite capable of killing people based on language, with a sissy nu-virus from chinkland that kills less people per week than the flu
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093450 No.16874523
enough, I will hear no more of this Kojimaboo nonsense
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99f66c No.16874528
>>16874509
Doesn't mean I haven't seen a lot of mechs. I've seen plenty. Nothing from the US comes close to the same level.
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ee90b2 No.16874530
>>16874511
Yeah if we made better hydraulics, and I mean way better otherwise they'd be as slow as a bulldozer. Don't even get me started on how the fact that mechs in Sakura Wars have a jet propulsion.
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fa6545 No.16874554
What are some /m/ anime where none of the pilots are under 13 years of age? I watched Vifam once and hated it. It made me feel like I was somebody's babysitter or some shit.
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6ee0e3 No.16874559
>>16874428
A piece of entertainment doesn't need to be perfect or even good to be worth experiencing, even if you want to say MGS5 is objectively not good due to clearly not being finished, but releasing anyway, that doesn't mean nothing of value can be gained from examining it.
If you only look at what is deemed by consensus to be "Good Games" then you'll only really learn what you've been told is good, might be good. but a flawed game can teach you far more about what actually makes good games, good, and bad games, bad.
a "Bad games" missed potentially, can inspire great ideas, and Good games can still have missed potential, if they forgot or ignored something important that worked in the past.
I'm glad to have cared enough about games before to have felt them disappointed me, since it make me appreciate the truly great games that much more.
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6bdd2f No.16874609
>>16874467
i will bite this bait and post this to refute your argument
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5a55bb No.16874617
Mechas would never work in real life due to their height. They would get blown up the moment they dared to show up.
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a2771a No.16874645
>>16874617
Then make them bigger.
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5a55bb No.16874651
>>16874645
>hmmm, my huge clunky machines get picked off like flies. Surely if I built them larger they wouldn't get shot.
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6691f7 No.16874672
>>16874417
>Cuckjima tried to warn us
No he didn't.
Dubs thread.
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ee90b2 No.16874692
>>16874651
I don't think it's a question of avoiding the shot, it's a matter of enduring it. Take a mech like >>16874609 these and give them the blast protection of a tank. If somehow humans were able to create a hydraulic system fit for maneuvering a mech and could travel at a fairly good speed, they'd actually be worth mass producing over tanks. Probably wouldn't work though because you have to sacrifice mass for speed, and if you sacrifice mass you have less protection.
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21b3f1 No.16874698
>the
QUARANTIN
>facility was a social commentary on how retarded USA is and how incapable of containing anything they are.
>the fact that the soldiers you euthanize aren't even on your team as evidenced by the fact that number of staff stays the same as it was before the mission is a deep message on how capitalism reduces people to 100% expendable units with no identity that you shuffle around based on bars and rankings.
>>16874559
It's objectively not good because it has 2 missions
>go kill a dude (but balloon him for good boy points and more exposition dump)
>go blow up a car or some shit (or steal it because we're niggers)
It has fidelity of an unity asset flip made by a pre-teen, except it took 5 years and 80 million dollars to develop.
TPP has nothing, it's an artistic void where everything that could've been interesting, cool, inspiring is retarded, broken, boring, or doesn't make any sense within its own ruleset.
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fc9e20 No.16874703
>>16874645
>Popular Science 1916
They've always been some mental futurists.
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08eddd No.16874704
>>16874617
Not if the mechs are fast and/or armored enough. That implies the enemy artillery has a clear shot, too.
>>16874528
The same level of gayness and asspull, true. If you have a real argument, come back any time, though.
>>16874609
Not bad but even a Tau mech surpasses that.
>>16874692
That's why the answer is not mass producing and simply making each one-by-one. Also, the answer is making each mech and/or tank a fortress. No matter how mobile you make something, it'll end up being more vulnerable the quicker they are. So if you sacrifice most of all speed in favor of power and armour, you can't really fight back unless you have something of similar size or something that can somehow crack the armor or find a weakpoint, but a good engineer allows for no weakpoint
tl;dr Basically a Baneblade or a Titan, either one is the apex of ground-ground combat
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5fd24b No.16874730
>>16874704
>>16874692
>>16874617
>>16874651
Modern armored ground vehicles have two major problems.
1. they aren't well armored for attacks from above, making them easy prey for helicopters and other aerial attack platforms
2. they typically have limited arcs of fire, also being vulnerable from attacks from above
Mecha theoretically are able to adequately respond to both of the weaknesses that other ground vehicles suffer from. The big detractor of mecha though is that cruise missiles are just too OP, anything that can be targeted can be destroyed, and it in all likelihood will until anti-missile lasers active defenses get developed, miniaturized and put on everything.
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ee90b2 No.16874745
>>16874730
Well your first point is why mechs have support from other forces like anti-air missiles launched from battleships on a coastline, or mobile vehicles equipped with anti-air missiles. The mech isn't supposed to be the apex war machine that can deal with every threat unless it's literally a Gundam.
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663442 No.16874747
>>16874704
I've yet to see anything from the west as iconic as the humble Zaku.
the tabletop soured me on Warhammer mechs, all I think when I look at that Warhound is "500 US dollars"
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000000 No.16874787
>>16874761
>>16874747
No one asked you to post all those pictures.
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d5a49c No.16874807
>>16874651
The first 2 are WW1 (read as airplanes don't exist as an actual threat), while the tracked one has a mast specifically for AA.
Also battleships are incredibly tough and can output a stupendous amount of damage, their Achilles heel is that they have to float (pretty much every win for airplanes against battleships is that they sink em rather than actually destroying them, and even that takes hundreds of planes) take that away and they get really scary.
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08eddd No.16874818
>>16874747
If we're talking about iconography, then I'm sorry, but you're BTFO'd right from the outset, cause the Iron Giant is recognized far wider and is much cooler a design than the Zaku (or most anything from the Mobile Suit Gundam series).
Shoutouts go to an Ork Stompa/Gargant and the Kastelan robots, who look good with any color scheme.
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000000 No.16874820
>>16874818
No one asked you to spam more pictures.
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a9346c No.16874856
>>16874747
mechs with arms are retarded. They only need guns and legs
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663442 No.16874870
>>16874820
>>16874787
>REEEEEEEE, Stop posting images on an imageboard!!!!!
Will TOR posters ever not be retarded?
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0e7434 No.16874882
Man I fucking love Battletech.
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000000 No.16874889
>>16874882
Quit spamming pics plox.
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886886 No.16874894
What if Kojima determines the future but he has shit taste in disaster waifus?
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000000 No.16874896
What if Kojima determines he want to fuck little boys?
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886886 No.16874902
>>16874896
I think that God has determined that you're going to be a fag, for the grand purpose of you having a shit life of fagginess my friend.
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000000 No.16874905
>>16874902
There are few compliments better than your eternal asspain. A pox be upon you newfriend.
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5fd24b No.16874906
I think TORposter is just mad his shitty little shill thread was BTFO and locked within ten minutes and so he's going to get revenge by being le ebin trolle :^)
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15ae8e No.16874920
>>16874692
Are there any shows or stories where an entire city states are mobile supermechs fighting with each other for resources?
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886886 No.16874923
>>16874905
Oh shit pox on top of coronavirus
You're making things worse how dare you
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000000 No.16874933
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000000 No.16874934
>>16874933
My dubs are difficult to believe. God must be on my side.
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886886 No.16874949
>>16874934
Dilate, 4channer.
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e9fcdd No.16874961
Oh boy, a dubs thread. Fucking check 'em, niggers.
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bec6fb No.16874964
>>16874417
>Hideo Kojima correctly surmised that the one weapon to surpass Metal Gear and bring the world to its knees, would actually be one tiny little virus.
That plot is old as dirt, though.
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00bb4d No.16874967
>>16874467
Well objectively speaking you aren't wrong, but subjectively fuck you anyway Nip mechs are cool.
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1024ab No.16874984
>>16874481
I really like the Battletech design iterations from the era between the earliest Robotech ripoff days and the more modern "we need everything to be angular and over designed." They went through a phase that was, in my opinion, a very cool mixture of Western and Japanese design. They had a sleekness that the modern designs and video game interpretations don't have but were differentiating themselves from Robotech and Macross.
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8c5f4c No.16874986
>>16874520
Just a flu bro.
In Italy 1/3 dies thanks to corona-chan, and not just old people.
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220ca2 No.16874988
>>16874986
1/300 more like
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bec6fb No.16874992
>>16874986
>In Italy 1/3 dies thanks to corona-chan, and not just old people.
Closer to 6%, and we're not seeing similar mortality rates in any other first world country affected, though. Then again, the PastaNiggers were one of the first ones to get really hit so hard and have mismanaged their outbreak from the word go.
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6f3fcf No.16875022
What the fuck were we supposed to do, predict a virus outbreak and devote millions of dollars to a vaccine for a thing that didn't even exist? Retard.
>>16874986
Even if what you said was true you just admitted that the "world ending virus" has a 66% survival rate.
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4338c0 No.16875026
>>16874986
I sincerely hope everyone who went "just a flu" gets the flu at some point of their lives, without immediate medical support available just so they can see what a flu actually is.
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6f3fcf No.16875030
>>16875026
Immunelet detected
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a63540 No.16875067
People need to stop fellating that clown and putting him on a pedestal just because he is in video games. Anywhere else he'd be just another guy at best or laughed out of the industry at worst.
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5a55bb No.16875079
>>16874692
>it's a matter of enduring it.
No amount of armor can endure against modern weapons. A simple 120mm SABOT can go through entire metres of armor like butter.
>>16874730
>Modern armored ground vehicles have two major problems.
>1. they aren't well armored for attacks from above, making them easy prey for helicopters and other aerial attack platforms
Not a single 1st or even 2nd world military cares about this, because mobile anti-aircraft exists. This is only an issue when you send tanks into urban environments and they get shot constantly from rooftops. But once again the white man found a solution: Don't be a retard who sends tanks into cities.
2. they typically have limited arcs of fire, also being vulnerable from attacks from above
A tank's arc of fire is excellent, with the exception of trash like the T90 which can't depress it's canon. The average modern battle tank can go hull-down and fuck you up from 2 miles away.
>>16874807
>Also battleships are incredibly tough and can output a stupendous amount of damage, their Achilles heel is that they have to float
Battleships were outdated even in WWII. Submarines and missiles make them floating targets. Even aircraft carriers despite the stupid amount of media hype, have to rely 100% on a massive protection fleet in order to avoid getting sank in seconds. Missile boats and destroyers are where it's at. And of course submarines.
Pic related, objectively the best main battle tank ever made. Unmatched 360 degrees protection from all RPGs, ATGMs and IEDs known to man. Another tank WILL kill it frontally with SABOT, but we got APS for that. A retard tall clunky mech would get sniped by this thing from 2 miles away.
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81364f No.16875083
I actually enjoy games where I don't have to mindlessly kill but actually can have enemies surrender and such, but the whole movie game stuff is bs.
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6f3fcf No.16875086
>>16875079
An actual problem with tanks is what they can traverse, if somebody somehow made a ground-based vehicle that could go through any terrain with the same firepower of a tank it'd be unstoppable.
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cc99da No.16875157
>>16874467
>The Japanese suck at designing mechs.
<Posts the super obvious copypasta'd design from Japan
<B-b-but it's cool guize, it's not that faggy Macross shit, it's Warhammer, that makes it kewl
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8
>>16874882
Nice
>>16875067
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a009ed No.16875164
>>16874417
>virus is latin for venom
iirc it's latin for poison.
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6f3fcf No.16875166
>>16875164
Virus can stand for both poison and venom in latin
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46bc1a No.16875186
>>16875157
>copypasted design from japan
>gatling gun in the foreground
>artillery guns in the background
>the whole thing reminiscent of WW1 tank
ok
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a96fdf No.16875263
>>16875186
Is fucking awful, almost all 40k mechs are.
Sure it's sci-fi but those things look so wrong in some many ways i try to simply ignore their existence.
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7ead67 No.16875282
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a96fdf No.16875288
>>16875282
I mean the admech titans like >>16874467 warhounds and dreadnoughts are cool
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1637a2 No.16877272
I've always found military debates about mecha tiresome. We have no idea how good it could theoretically be until we see it in a practical test. Fucking Greekoids thought they had the greatest, most un-defeatable formation with Hopolites and look how far it got them. Chariots were seen as OP and they're well regarded now as being highly impractical. There is always something that will eventually come to crush our idea of "good".
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