/v/ - Video Games

E.Y.E. for me. I found it to be a bizarre HL2 mod with annoying respawning enemies.

Every game I don't like is bad because my taste is objectively correct.

>>16864322

AoE is RTS, not grand strategy, but alright.

Morrowind; running around for an hour and not being able to fight off almost any of the wildlife was a put off. I could deal with grinding but, I just couldn't get enthused for anything.

>>16864283

>but the combination of the tank controls and the camera make me quit them every time i come back to them.

Have you tried to git gud anon?

Crusader Kings 2. It looks fun but messing with the desmesne and such was a hurdle I wasn't willing to overcome. If the whole world goes into quarantine over this corona shit I'll spend the time learning the game (and shitposting on /v/).

There're plenty. I like playing RTS, but I hate actually using tactics and micromanaging so playing against humans is out. That's a whole genre that I can't get into. My unique problem is playing multiplayer games with a little group of friends, then being completely bored by them if I try playing alone. The mechwarrior online game was like that. Arma is fun as hell with two or three friends, but trying to play it any other way is hollow and unsatisfying. Planetside's the same way. Even playing and cooperating with people I don't actually know doesn't really work.

Morrowind. I did finish it but the whole alien aesthetic coupled with the game being centered around the Dunmer which to me have always been the most boring race in Elder Scrolls next to Bretons and I honestly do not see why it is so fondly remembered. I know the memes play a big role in it but you take those away and it is a pretty average RPG. I much prefer playing Gothic 1 or 2 over it.

>>16864429

That's funny. I thought Morrowind was comfy and fun to just poke around in, but could never stand playing Gothic 2 despite it seeming like it'd be up my alley. I don't know exactly what the problem was, either. I want to say that it felt like I was on a tight leash and that there wasn't anything to do or anything interesting to explore, but I know neither of those things are really true.

Dragon’s Dogma for sure. After trying to play through it three times I’m pretty sure the only reason it’s a /v/ classic is because of the waifu pawns. The controls feel weird and floaty, I don’t find any of the classes particularly interesting and I hate AI companions. Maybe I just didn’t get into it enough but it feels like a half baked rpg mixed with a equally half baked action game.

sports games. fuck that. if i was going to kill time playing sports games i would just do actual sports. (i also don't watch sports games, for the same reason).

Aurora 4x. It turns out there is something too autisticlly detailed for me.

>>16864283

Any non Quake shooter (multiplayer)

>>16864355

I'm not saying that it's hard, i'm saying that it's boring and has never scared me or gave me any tension.

I really really don't like the combat in Project Zero, which is a shame, because it has some of the best horror atmosphere of any franchise.

Every RTS in the history of ever, specifically multiplayer, partly for the reasons >>16864377 said, and partly because when there's time pressure, I tend to get tunnel vision and only focus on one issue at a time. With more than 2 players this translates into getting sucker punched by everyone I'm not focusing on. Conversely, some of my nicest memories come from multiplayer TBS and 4X where I can compile game spanning strategies and plots involving most players in relative tranquility: Total War, Master of Magic/Orion, HoMM, etc.

>>16864283

>I for example love RE4 but can't stand the first 3 RE.

Same, I like Silent Hill too. Wouldn't say I can't stand them, but never so much as got halfway through RE1.

>>16864535

>NES Zelda

>isn't beatable without a guide

This meme…

1st quest sure is

>>16864535

Literally the only worthwhile mainline Zelda games are a link to the past, OoT, MM and breath of the wild.

I never played any of the spinoffs but I wager those aren't truly worthwhile either.

>>16864547

Minish Cap is good.

>>16864543

I'm also terrible at RTS, but fortunately there was a multiplayer one that allowed you to ditch the genre entirely. And I played the fuck out of it.

God bless this defiled game.

Final Fantasy. I tried and didn't like 13 and 7. Tried X too but dropped it despite kind of liking the beginning.

>>16864543

>I tend to get tunnel vision and only focus on one issue at a time.

This is fucking infuriating, I'm fighting it like crazy but I just cannot comprehend how to fix it. For example, I have two things, A and B. I'm jumping between one and the other and maintaining them; meanwhile C pops up, I immediately divert my attention to solve it and while I remember about B, I forget about A and only recall it several minutes later. I've never had any problems with attention span and I can focus on and read one thing for hours, though I fail to remember about issues when they pile up on top of one another.

>>16864499

Best way to avoid this is fighting bosses with the standard weapon, then the game becomes pretty fun with some exceptions like X6 where bosses are just bullshit without their weaknesses.

Is this thread just meant to bitch?

>>16864564

I guess it's not about attention span but about multi-tasking or maybe even getting too much into the game so you end up slipping into 'the zone' and just play in a reactive sort of mindless way instead of actually trying to come up with strategies. I have the same problem and found that talking to myself (with my inner voice) helps staying conscious to what is going on in the grand picture instead of focusing on whatever happens to pop up at the moment, that and reminding myself to check both my resources and the minimap every few seconds.

But I'm absolute dog shit at RTS, so I dunno man.

>>16864607

You ever consider just playing RTS against bots with friends?

>>16864618

>Games really need to make up their mind when it comes to scale, am I some governor of a planet or the emperor of a galactic empire?

That's actually a really good point, you end up taking on more work than someone in that position would realistically have to worry about.

>>16864669

>>16864618

I guess developers prefer to focus on micromanaging so they don't have to come up with another kind of content more fitting to a higher up position.

Still the option to delegate would be welcome.

>>16864668

When the Doom was hot shit, it got completely past me. I played some Quake (mostly 2 in multiplayer).

Duke Nukem 3D, on the other hand, was the best because all the fun stuff and cool shit you cold do.

>>16864669

>hat's actually a really good point, you end up taking on more work than someone in that position would realistically have to worry about.

Would you like to have less things to do in game instead of more?

Survival games

Especially Zombie/Monster survival games

I just don't have the patience to run around conserving/repairing shit while fighting hordes of whatever, If I want that shit I'll play a strategy/management game

>>16864669

>>16864673

>>16864919

The Civilization series tried over and over to solve the micromanagement problem- once you have a dozen cities or so it's a huge pain in the ass to tell everyone what to do every turn- but never really clinched it. Many Civ games have the option to leave cities on autopilot, usually with some setting to emphasize production vs science and such. It never really felt right to me because at that point I was used to telling my cities exactly what to do. I'll never beat a Civ game on a harder difficulty because of this

Dark Souls. I respect the game, I know it's well-made, and barring 2, is highly tuned and deserving of its good reputation, but I found it to be far too technical for me to get into. I got as far as beating the first boss, but then put it down and never came back to it. I didn't want to invest the time required to become a no-death expert on the LOL MEME BULLSHIT DIFFICULTY stuff later in the game, as that had all the earmarks of the game becoming an unpaid job instead of amusement and distraction from the bullshit tedium that is life.

I used to like RTS games, because I enjoyed unlocking more and more structures and units through research, and expanding my control of the map, but it just stopped being fun to me when I saw through the metaphoric fog of war, grasping the generally shitty AI and the autistic minmaxing competitive players use.

It might be due to terminal burnout I picked up, working for a telecom for a decade, though, as I don't play much of anything anymore.

As I often say, I hate green peppers, but I don't think that they're a bad vegetable, or that nobody should eat them. They just taste terrible to me, while others say they taste amazing, even when we're both sampling from the same dish.

>>16864919

That was exactly what the other anon was saying, yes. His point is that having more things to manage just for the sake of having more things to manage is not necessarily fun, especially if you MUST handle all the details. If you had a "wipe ass" button for every soldier in your army, you'd certainly have a lot more things to do, but I doubt anyone wants to have to manage that. Sometimes having details abstracted or opaque is okay. I do actually disagree with him in one sense, because I think having small details modeled and accessible but with a competent AI manager (what MOO3 tried and failed to do) could potentially result in a fun game both for people who love autistic spreadsheet games and those who don't. The problem is that it's hard as hell to figure out what details are interesting to manage and yet also capable of being handled well enough by AI that detail-haters feel okay with using it. Overall, though, I'm in the crowd that modeling more is not necessarily better. Then there's the entirely separate problem of scale. Managing tiny details for one character in a porn game, for instance, is engaging and probably exactly the kind of thing the player is playing to do. Managing those details for 100 characters most of whom are just there to sit and make money (and yet still need to be micromanaged in depth or else they hurt some other goal) can get old very quick. When you spend as much time just reading the stat changes for each of your characters as you do in the actual management phase itself, you may have a detail scaling problem.

>>16864950

>If you had a "wipe ass" button for every soldier in your army, you'd certainly have a lot more things to do, but I doubt anyone wants to have to manage that

There's a game out there where you have to manage ammo, oxygen, flashlight battery, peeing, pooping, food, and thirst. Granted only for one character but it was pretty awful. You also have a base to manage, but I quit before that point.

>>16864974

I forgot you also have to manage sleep, temperature and "mutation" or something like that.

>>16864283

The Elder Scrolls games. They are just boring. The newer ones give you that huge sandbox world with a million things in it, but not one of those things turns out to be memorable. The sad thing is that there are actually many good ideas in those games, they are just presented like an old newspaper on the roadside. In the end those games feel generic and after a while I don't even know what to do inside them. They give you great freedom in what you can do, but I fail to care about anything I can do inside Bethesda's worlds.

Modding Skyrim to be a waifu simulator with 4k textures was a fun thing to do, but once all the mods started to work and I could run the game and admire the graphics, soon again was I done with admiring the graphics and again, didn't know what the fuck I should do inside the game. Normally you mod games to add something to the game, with Skyrim it is just about the achivement of how many mods you can install without the game crashing.

>>16864983

When you find a way to break them over your knee with ingame exploits, they can be a separate kind of fun, but they inevitably get patched to prevent that. It was mildly fun playing as He-Man, in Skyrimjob, by exploiting the potion of fortify restoration and its exponentially-increasing effects on enchanted items, until you could make gear that boosted your health and unarmed power to insane levels in a matter of minutes. Truly, a self-made Master of the Universe. But yes, fun is against the law, so those shitty games can't be broken like that anymore.

>>16864977

To some extent, any game idea will have its fan. There may be folks out there who literally want a zombie or apocalypse life simulator where The Sims meets CDDA and your dude can die from not pooping because a mad scientist captured him and sewed his asshole shut and you didn't have any asshole-ripper kits made ahead of time. Look at how massively autistic Dwarf Fortress already is, and yet people both love the micromanagement they can do and hate the micromanagement they can't do.

>>16864999

Yeah, I hate micromanagement so I try to avoid those. AI War and SupCom are my favorite RTS games as a result.

>>16864283

majoras mask

after hear so many prasies i think i will try again some time in the future, but after ending ocarina of time i try it and could not dig it.

>>16865064

"Zelda where you have to continuously go back in time and redo shit" was a bad idea.

>>16865095

You only have to go back in time to do the same thing if you're retarded

>>16864283

I remember 3 years ago unpopular opinion threads like this would get deleted. /v/ sure has changed recently.

>>16864582

Nigger what, press back on the analog stick plus Y/triangle while holding lock-on.

>>16865153

Why do the Anonymous Avatars look like ayys in this image?

cRPGs. I just can't get them to click.

>>16865147

Maybe you should report it instead of being a bitch.

I've not been able to get into Grand Strategy games, even though I feel like I'd want to.

I'm terrible at setting achievable goals and I end up building towards something that's not reasonably achievable, and I either spend ages not doing anything or I overreach and fail spectacularly.

>>16864369

Pirate the DLC (if you haven't), and play Nomads. Infinite desmene limit

>>16868047

After like 800 hours of playing them, I can say they aren't worth getting into. You have this thing where you could set the goals for yourself, but ends up with much of your time being watching, excepting maybe when you're in active war in a hearts of iron game

I could never ever get into games that require you to grind in order to progress every few chapters/fights, such as Etrian Odyssey and Disgaea. I also have trouble understanding how people sing their praises so much when they’re so flawed. Now that I think about it, reminds me a bit of those blowhards calling people who can’t beat the terribly designed Dark Souls 2/3 bosses “casuals”, or saying “git gud”. I beat both of em and I agree that the game clearly has some big pitfalls in design. But games like Disgaea and EO, I seriously can’t be bothered to spend too much time on considering how I’m expected to grind in order to beat each floor’s FOE and boss respectively. No sooner after doing a little bit of grinding (to my chagrin) and beating a boss do I realize that the next one is yet again beyond my capabilities due to how the damage and health scaling works.

I’ve heard this said before so understand that they aren’t my words, but again I must remind everyone that it’s no wonder jap games have so much grinding on average considering how boring and “work-centric” life in Japan is. I wouldn’t wish that hell on any white person.