/v/ - Video Games

A Kickstarter project not fulfilling promises? Who could've seen this coming! :^)

I'm not surprised, they'd basically have to build a new game.

>>16864183

THEY HAD TO BUILD A GAME THE FIRST TIME WITH THIS GOAL IN MIND YOU SHITLICKER

Mighty No. 9 would have been slightly less of a disaster if they cut back on retarded stretch goals like the online mode. Fuck this game, though. No way it should've launched with so many game-breaking glitches and performance issues (Switch especially) when most of the backers are playing the game on launch.

>Unfortunately, the code that was created early in the game’s development is not currently compatible with this type of gameplay

So either the code was already set up before announcing the goal and they promised something they could not do or the code was set up that way after the kickstarter, which meant they fucked it up after getting money for promising the feature.

Either way pretty scummy. At best they could say they didn't know what they were doing, but then why promise the feature and take money for it?

>>16864174

I only backed three and each one disappointed me. At least Grim Dawn was only a slight disappointment.

>>16864173

>roguelike Metroidvania

That sounds terrible anyway.

>>16864179

Is it better than the average Igavania? I'm 100% Team Classicvania but I'm kinda interested

>>16864216

If you liked SOTN you'll love ROTN as it's pretty much the former but with so much more added.

>>16864200

>At best they could say they didn't know what they were doing, but then why promise the feature and take money for it?

It could have been that they thought they could do it, but realized, as development went on, they it wasn't going to be the process they thought it was going to be. Overall, NEVER FUND KICKSTARTERS, OR EARLY ACCESS, OR "FINISHED" GAMES STILL ADDING CONTENT POST-LAUNCH seems to be the one moral that people NEVER learn.

>>16864229

And, forgot to take off the flag.

>>16864228

Sounding a bit like Luciano, mate.

>>16864237

>Even if good games kept coming out year after year from multiple devs, your dumb ass would still find a reason not to spend a cent.

You're right. Want to know my excuse: Why should I waste money buying an incomplete game (That charges an addition fee if I want to access the remainder of the title, with no guarantee that the remainder will even be finished, on top of the base game being being alpha-quality broken that requires several months of patches to become playable) when I can buy an older game (That is complete for the past 15+ years, with no extra charges, more content, and having little to no bugs) at less than a third of the cost?

Just buy CotM instead so they'll make more Classicvania clones.

I bought the game for content in the game when I bought it and had no idea there was supposed to be anything but second character coming. I'm content with what I spent, but take this as a lesson to never back kickstarters.

>>16864253

>you'd have to have a good reason for pirating it,

Game will become unplayable when servers shutdown, and Denuvo. And, before you go, The developers wouldn't be using DRM if people bought their games legally,", I BOUGHT A PHYSICAL COPY OF GTA4 SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND THAT SON OF A BITCH HAS FOUR LAYERS OF DRM THAT STILL EXIST AND HAVE NOT BEEN REMOVE 12 YEARS LATER. Even then, I have so many other games to play that the thought of downloading Neir hasn't even crossed my mind.

>otherwise just admit that you're poor and can't reasonably support the developers

Anon, you DO realize that developers have released games like the Command & Conquer series, The Suffering, Beyond Good & Evil, L4D2, Assassin's Creed 3-5, The Sims 2, Fallout, Prince of Persia, etc. for free, only to yank the chain and start charging for it again, right? Then there's also the fact that there's HUNDREDS of freeware games like Cave Story, La Mulana, Katawa Shoujo, Noitu Love, Paradise Blue, Galshell, Nethack, etc.. If you're pirating something, you're doing it for ideological reasons, NOT because "Muh poor".

>>16864275

The free Fallout is not really a good example. That was a screw you to Bethesda because Interplay's right to sell the old games was expiring and they wanted to remove as much value from those rights as possible..

>>16864228

Another torfag has been making good posts, trying to ruin his work with your retardation?

>>16864229

That's what I meant, they didn't know what they were doing thinking they could do it but couldn't. A finished game that is actually finished isn't bad, I think Terraria is fine, but many of them today aren't actually finished. Nothing will beat fucking betas with microtransactions though.

>>16864275

Some people do it for poor some do it for ideological.

Shamefru dispray. One must sudoku.

>>16864279

Bethesda is still the bad guy because they're giving away Elder Scrolls: Arena and Daggerfall for free; meanwhile old Fallout, old Wolfenstein, and old Doom are still products that you have to pay for.

Goodwill is all that holds people to their promises with these projects. If a group burns their backers too badly, they can reform with a different name if they try another project, and anyone recognizable from the first group will just claim that someone or something else was the reason paid-for feature X wasn't delivered. Participating in these charades is a waste of money.

>>16864253

I regret buying Nier on release, I can't even play the game properly without fan patches.

>>16864193

>if they cut back on retarded stretch goals like the online mode

That's basically the story of nearly every kickstarter game fuck up, the devs waste their time and resources trying to fulfil the retarded stretch goals they set out, only to run out of funding while in the process.

While I'm on the subject, can we talk about what a jewish trick stretch goals are? The devs always put platform ports or must have game features behind frivolous shit no one wants.

>>16864516

Stretch goals are real-life abusable game mechanics. If they were used in good faith as a way to actually generate some rationally-determined amount of money that would be needed to do thing X, they would be fine. Since there's nothing to stop it, they're bullshit numbers devs exploit to pretend that they have good reasons not to do things that they really ought to be doing.

>>16864173

>>16864179

Why? Roguelile mode was always a bad idea and one of the worst stretchgoals. Doesn't really justify it, but I doubt anyone was looking forward to it, I don't care either for the randomizer or the roguelike mode, but at least with the randomizer speedrunners will have fun.

Only problem is: It is lazy as shit, but so was the roguelike.

>>16864216

It is your basic Igavania to the letter. Is pretty nice, but not amazing.

>>16864237

I don't need excuses to pirate games, anon, I do it because I don't want to spend my money in games when I can be spending it in more important things, specially if they are digital. I just like free games.

>stretch goal

If you didn't contribute to their kikestarter why do you care? This is essentially an extra

Not that I'm defending them, its just that it seems trivial

>>16864571

It is. It would be a mode that adds nothing to the game. I'm waiting for more stuff like the coop mode and the extra characters, but this is very fucking gay.

When they say they are cancelling those, I'd be mad, but even then, the base game was pretty good except with stuff like >>16864193 mentioned with so many bugs on launch.

>>16864571

>Not that I'm defending them

>>16864253

Why support a AAA studio when I can play the game for free?

You dont own games, you own a one time transferrable license to play it privatelyiynsedy

It sucks that this happened, but roguelike's are shit anyway. So if anything they screwed themselves over.

>>16864590

luciano pls go

>>16864590

>You dont own games, you own a one time transferrable license to play it privatelyiynsedy

I own plenty of games. I'm not posting saying this to dissuade anyone from piracy, you're absolutely right that supporting AAA studios is retarded, or really any studio that does anything anti-consumer.

But I'm also sick of this idiotic myth that game ownership is impossible when it was the standard for decades prior to Steam.

I pirate games because I can. If I can get two exact copies of the same thing, but one is free, it makes sense to me to pick that. Also it is a pretty strong habit at this point since I've been doing it since I was 13 or so.

>>16864621

A physical copy and a digital one is not the same, faggot. If Steam ever goes down, you won't be able to play the games you had on steam, because they were never yours. I mean, you can crack them, but then you could have just pirated the game in the first place.

Shame, I was waiting for the game to be complete(the RL mode releasing before) even playing it.

Should I bother with playing it? My favorite Igavania was Aria of Sorrow although it's hard to not love SotN's massive amounts of content, music and visual style.

>>16864173

On one hand it sucks but why the fuck would you care about literally the shittiest mode there could be in a metroidvania especially when it's being replaced by the actually good and worthwhile version of it?

>>16864681

And that's why I said this was the standard "prior to Steam." Did you not read that part, or did you fail to understand it?

>>16864173

I really need to try out bloodstained one of these days.

But the thing is in the past I tried out several Castlevania games and I never beat a single one of em, it may just be the same for this game too.

>>16864696

>Should I bother with playing it?

I dunno, how about you pirate it and give it a try so you can judge if its worth playing for yourself?

>>16864681

>If Steam ever goes down, you won't be able to play the games you had on steam

If your disc becomes unusable you won't be able to play the game again, unless you made a backup and have a crack to go with it.

> because they were never yours

You should read that EULA that comes with your discs sometimes, you'd be surprised at what you might find out in them, SPOILER: it involves you not ever actually owning the game only a license to run it

>I mean, you can crack them, but then you could have just pirated the game in the first place.

You mean just like most people do with their old disc games unless they're masochist / deaf / mentally ill nostalgiafags?

>>16864740

>You should read that EULA that comes with your discs sometimes, you'd be surprised at what you might find out in them, SPOILER: it involves you not ever actually owning the game only a license to run it

Ah, there it is, that's the retardation I was looking for. The absolute idiocy that genuinely believes that A) most games come with such documentation and B) that the one-sided rantings of a publisher has any validity as a contract and is anything more than a means to intimidate smooth-brained corporate bootlickers like yourself.

>>16864745

>A) most games come with such documentation

Yes they did, usually near the end of the paper manual if not included on the disk itself, unless it's self published stuff from the ealier days of PC gaming then they usually didn't care much or at all about that.

> B) that the one-sided rantings of a publisher has any validity as a contract and is anything more than a means to intimidate smooth-brained corporate bootlickers like yourself.

Oh anon how nice of you to just play yourself like a complete fucking retard, if you claim EULA don't have any value then steam claiming you don't own what you pay for on their store isn't valid either hence your complaaints about that are invalid, but if you live in a shithole that upholds EULA as valid then I'm still right

>>16864756

>Yes they did, usually near the end of the paper manual, if not included on the disc itself.

Factually incorrect, especially with console games. Either way, it's completely irrelevant. I reject all of them, I agree to nothing of the sort. Now what? You need two people to enter into an agreement. In your (fictional, unlikely) scenario, you have one.

>if you claim EULA don't have any value then steam claiming you don't own what you pay for on their store isn't valid either

"A page in the back of the manual" that I may or may not even encounter, let alone agree to, is far different from the contracts you enter to be allowed to have a Steam account or subscribe to games. I don't know what kind of shithole YOU are living in, but the only contracts I've entered into when buying my games is a contract of sale.

>>16864740

>it involves you not ever actually owning the game only a license to run it

That has already been disproven, faggot. Get your blackpill ass out of here.

>>16864740

>shills digital

>shills eulas

>muh nostalgiafag

Checks out.

Reminder that EULAs are not legally binding nor moral because

>they are post-sale contracts

>the user is forced to agree to them

>also many individual parts are not legally binding because law overrides contracts

>>16864761

The next thing he's going to do is pretend like "ownership of a copy" and "ownership of the copyright" are one and the same, and that because you can't make copies and sell them you don't truly own the game. That's the playbook these industry goons go by every single time.

I find it odd how there's always someone pushing the idea that us 8cooners shouldn't even support good games from good devs. It's almost as if there's an effort to lessen our influence.

>>16864765

>8cooners

Cuckchan, leave!

>>16864760

>Factually incorrect

Do i Really fuckking have to dig around for my copies of MOHAA or RTCW just to fucking scan the manual and show you that the thin is literally printed right in the fucking manual?

>I reject all of them, I agree to nothing of the sort. Now what?

Nothing, unless you are in a shithole none of those agreements have any value

>"A page in the back of the manual" that I may or may not even encounter, let alone agree to, is far different from the contracts you enter to be allowed to have a Steam account or subscribe to games.

They're the exact same, and they're both invalid, at-least where I am, and they're unenforceable anyways.

>>16864761

You only ever owned a license of your software, just because the people giving you that license couldn't domuch of anything to prevent unauthorized use doesn't mean that it wasn't the case.

>Get your blackpill ass out of here.

How is any of what I said blackpill.

How is any of your post supposed to be taken seriously when you just say "you're wrong", let an eceleb do the arguing for you and then just claim you're X thing that's bad so you're wrong regardless.

>>16864762

>shills digital

>shills eulas

Haven't done either of those things, I'm just saying that retards such as yourself and other in this thread pretending that somehow a disc copy of a game or a steam download are something completely different are fucking retarded, they're both the same software you can keep a backup of and you can keep forever no matter how many agreements are attached to them because nobody is actually enforcing them.

I'm also saying that you cannot claim "steam is bad because muh agreements", then pretend those agreements are anything new, then when you get caught say those agreements aren't worth shit anyways but still pretending like you didn't just shit all over your own argument against steam.

Whether you want to buy games or not or whatever else is your own problem and I myself have no problem downloading whatever shit I please for free.

>>16864764

>The next thing he's going to do is pretend like "ownership of a copy" and "ownership of the copyright"

The next thing you're gonna try is pretend that anyone who disagrees is a shill, so that way you can plug your ears and pretend everything that doesn't agree with the local consensus is wrong.

Well you already did but you get the point.

>>16864789

>Do i Really fuckking have to dig around for my copies of MOHAA or RTCW just to fucking scan the manual and show you that the thin is literally printed right in the fucking manual?

So you have some games that have irrelevant agreements printed in the back of the manual. How kind of you to ignore the rest of the post where it was explained why that's irrelevant. Besides, I can just as easily show you plenty of games that have no such things. I've bought plenty of games that have no manual, box, or anything else whatsoever. Now what? Are you seriously trying to tell me that I've agreed to some kind of secret contract?

>They're the exact same, and they're both invalid

No, they're not. One is a contract of sale. The other is not. Those are different. I thought your argument was supposed to be that they were both valid though, and that I don't own my games. How curious.

>>16864735

And before steam digital distribution was dead for a reason.

>>16864740

>If your disc becomes unusable you won't be able to play the game again

But I'd still own the disc, which is physical proof I ever owned the game and, what's more, I'd lose only that one game while I can still play all my other games in different consoles if my console ever breaks. I can always get the same game somewhere else despite it not being in production anymore, and I can also pirate it if I wanted to.

>SPOILER: it involves you not ever actually owning the game only a license to run it

That's why you own a copy of the game, retard. Nobody says you own the software, but by owning the disc it's up to you what you do with it, not up to whatever digital service you are running.

>>16864797

>No, they're not. One is a contract of sale. The other is not.

Neither are, you can quite easily find yourself in front of the steam EULA after or without making any purchase, the same way you can with disc games that have EULAs

>I thought your argument was supposed to be that they were both valid though, and that I don't own my games. How curious.

My argument is that you can't claim steam's agreement are any more or less relevant than any other including ones that came with discs, if you claim one is relevant then they both are

As an aside I did manage to find a disc game with an EULA, and as luck would have it it's fucking Half-Life for PS2.

>>16864797

Steam, amazingly, still doesn't make you agree to a EULA when you buy the game, at least when I last bought one I think around Christmas. You'd think they'd have done this to avoid the post-sale contract issue but they haven't.

Of course, steam's DRM prevents you from doing a lot with the game that a physical version doesn't.

>>16864782

>doesn't know what a coon is

>>16864811

Anyone knows what it is, the problem is where you belong for using it.

>>16864807

>Neither are, you can quite easily find yourself in front of the steam EULA after or without making any purchase

You are presented with the subscription agreement before the purchase of any subscription on Steam, and agreeing to it before a transaction is mandatory. Once again, this is very, very different.

>My argument is that you can't claim steam's agreement are any more or less relevant than any other including ones that came with discs

If you don't see any difference between a one-sided EULA that may or may not even be shown to the owner of a game after he's already become the owner versus a contract that's displayed in advance and where a digital confirmation of agreement is required to proceed, well, I can't help you. You're either completely inept or trying to make excuses on behalf of game publishers.

>>16864810

For Steam, whether you have to agree to a "third party EULA" or not depends on the specific game. The store page says there's a third-party EULA so there's no argument that it was a surprise afterwards.

>>16864769

Niggerpill, die

>>16864816

>You are presented with the subscription agreement before the purchase of any subscription on Steam, and agreeing to it before a transaction is mandatory. Once again, this is very, very different.

You don't have to go through steam to buy stuff for it.

>You're either completely inept or trying to make excuses on behalf of game publishers.

You're still trying to make it seem like any of what you say makes any difference.

If like you claim you don't care about the agreements then steam is no different from a disc they cannot actually prevent you from doing whatever you want with your copy.

But if you're gonna pretend like the agreements on steam mean you don't own the games then you simply cannot ignore that similar agreements have existed before and claim more or less the same thing as the steam agreements.

>>16864819

>only some games

Guess that devs cool enough then since he didn't require it. I even looked it up and didn't find any sort of EULA on the steam page, official game page, or in the game files. Interesting.

>The store page says there's a third-party EULA so there's no argument that it was a surprise afterwards.

And boxes hide it in fine print on the back, post sale contracts are still not legally binding nor moral. Shrink-wrap contracts have been found by courts to be null and void.

>>16864815

What next, you'll be offended by people saying nigger?

It sucks that they're scamming their backers like this but isn't a rogue like mode for a Metroidvania a really bad idea? It defeats the entire point of carefully created levels. A randomizer sounds like a much better feature.

>>16864831

Don't remember if the third part EULA pops up before or after you pay. Obviously it would make a huge difference but I'm not gonna buy something on Steam just to find out.

>>16864841

Pops up on first launch or install.

>>16864570

If you can't promise something don't say it is how I feel.

>>16864837

You don't learn to say nigger in cuckchan.

>>16864843

I'm willing to bet they just don't understand how complicated these things are and how much time it needs to be done, and the constant pressure of fans to release it also doesn't help. I don't mind waiting as long as the product is finished. There's also retarded finish lines

>>16864842

Then it's the sort of EULA that gets you a settlement before court because the company doesn't want a judge to rule against it. Clickwrap contracts have surprisingly serious requirements in the US (it has to be clear that you are agreeing to a contract with your "I agree" click) so just having a pre-purchase EULA warning, or making it available to read beforehand, probably won't cut it.

>>16864850

Used to be EULAs on games back when you had to install off discs wouldn't hold because it was ruled that you couldn't opt-out before you bought the product and so you were entitled to use it whether or not you agreed.

Probably another reason why they're trying to kill physical, though it doesn't really matter in steam's case since you can just pirate and fuck it all.

>>16864840

>It defeats the entire point of carefully created levels.

A randomizer is going to do the same thing, since good metroidvanias have upgrades unlock new areas. Hard to design a level like that if you don't know where the items are going to be. I assume there's at least ways to ensure it's still beatable.

A Robot Named Fight did the roguelite metroidvania thing and it was alright but I think they are better without it.

>>16864958

I guess it depends on how they implement it and what other things like lv1 level cap and the such. All I know is that speedrunners love randomizers in Metroidvania games, for some reason, SOTN and AoS are full of randomizers.

>>16864997

Kinda surprises me that speedrunners like those, considering it is hard to plan around.

>>16865011

The games aren't particularly difficult either, but other than that, I've never been much into speed runs.

>>16864268

This game was pretty cool. That narration is kinda shit though.

>>16865011

Speedrunners practice through thousands of failed attempts to finally get one good run, I think they get some kind of high from seeing something that's very unlikely actually happen. Like how people shit their pants over getting a 0.1% drop from a lootcrate, but less degenerate. No joke, there was a .webm of some streamer literally shitting their pants after getting a knife in CS:GO.

>>16865015

My guess is that speedrunners are desperate for new ways to stand out in well-known games. Speedrunning doesn't exist in a vacuum and showing off times is important to them. Randomizers are probably a good way for speedrunners who are good at a certain game to keep it relevant by finding and distributing seeds with interesting challenges. It's probably more interesting than grinding away at the exact same game year after year, which even the most dedicated autist must get tired of doing eventually.

>>16865036

Speedrunners are degenerate (and not just because of the tranny subculture). It's attention whoring. What you enjoy about self improvement and personal mastery of a game is not what speedrunners do. They stream it for attention. They create new categories to maintain their records. They're fighting to have a "world record" with such prestige as "Beating one level in Goldeneye 0:01 second than one of the other 11 people still playing this game". It's sad.

>>16864173

And Kikestarter will do nothing to hold them accountable. And this will be just another in the pile as to reasons why video games can't get more than $10k on kikestarter (but because they don't fuck over everyone, god damn board games can easily still pull up to $80k)

>>16865011

Speedrunning isn't all about getting world records or settings PBs, most runners do it for the fun.

Randomizers can completely fuck up your normal route causing you to improvise. It's kind of like on-the-fly speedrunning.

>>16864315

Aren't they giving it away for free because of some copyright bullshit years ago? If they had a chance to profit form it, they'd jump at it.

Not surprising that modern devs can't make a game that was made in the DOS era, not even with $5,000,000.

>>16865167

>god damn board games can easily still pull up to $80k

Because the board game industry is still healthier and currently producing games of a much higher quality than the video game industry. Not to mention how much more suitable kickstarter is as a platform for those games.

It's been this way for awhile now. 3-4 years ago was a golden era for the tabletop industry, it's just barely started to enter the same decline as video games.

>>16864173

Never give money to the industry. Pirate or steal everything.

>>16864765

It's almost as if there's an effort to keep funding leftists and anti-consumer companies in the industry after every shitty practice that they try causing people and normalfags to boycott them.

>>16865493

>causing people and normalfags to boycott them.

Doesn't fucking happen. Look no further than /v/. Go and count the number of threads where people give attention to games with paid DLC, and likely purchased them. Go look at the general pro-Steam attitude. Look around you, look at the fact that these games are still selling, despite all of the things they do. Even while gamergate was in full swing, those absolute fucking retards absolutely refused to boycott.

It's wrong to say that they're being propped up in spite of boycotts, even though the funding is there. It's more correct to say that there's no boycott at all.

>>16865590

That's an awful lot of words you're using to say that the game sold over 4,750,000 copies. Sure, that's less than previous entries, but take a look at that number again, please.

>>16865011

They can usually set a specific seed number to guarantee the same conditions for when they race.

>>16864183

No they wouldn't. They'd have to make or re-use some art assets to make rooms that can be procedurally swapped around, then make a generator that swaps those rooms around. It's not a tiny amount of work, but definitely not the foundation-shattering affair that you and the devs make it out to be. Highly disappointing to be honest. My guess is they couldn't figure out how to make half the ability gains matter since a lot of them are purely for traversal and exploration. They'd just have to look at the dungeon as a whole and say "This percentage of rooms should be underwater. There should be at least this many rooms cut off by a large gap/flight section/whatever." And so on. Then you look at the rooms again after they've been generated and decide which ones should be which bosses, based on which ones would be necessary for the player to progress to the next area.

>>16864237

>Even if good games kept coming out year after year from multiple devs, your dumb ass would still find a reason not to spend a cent.

That's a nice hypothetical you have there. It's too bad that good games aren't coming out year after year from multiple devs so we can't test your theory. Oh well.

>>16865706

>>16865674

Is there still some religious hateboner present in the show? Or new pozz beyond Isaac The Gay Nigger?

>>16865738

>There's nothing inbetween, so there's nothing of substance, you have empty dialogue and jokes or just gore for the ADD people.

Sounds like the stereotypical anime that wants to be deep and meaningful but is plagued with an awful writing staff

>>16865706

Did the black guy have homolust for the guy that was whipping him?

>>16865719

> There are these monks that went mad with the knowledge that it was because of the Church that Dracula attacked humanity

What a crock of shit

Dracula was a literal monster who was shown in a flashback to brutally murder people for disrespecting him, and this show expects me to believe that people from the middle-ages would be open-minded about all that?

<but they killed his wife for using science

I’m a bit skeptical of the idea that they would assume what is clearly a machine to be witchcraft, but regardless the simple fact that she was married to Dracula would be enough to convince anyone of that time that she should have burned. They would just hate her and Dracula even more after finding out her execution was the cause of Dracula’s genocide

>>16865866

What a shitshow. Do people actually want this, or do they just fling this stuff out into the void and see if anyone watches?

>>16865895

Netflix is a money laundering operation. Not a joke.

The objective is to spend money, not to make it.

>>16866088

>book with circular logic no one actually reads or puts into practice

vs

>shit that actually happened

Who wins?

>>16865980

"Paganism" isn't an actual religion/belief/ideology. It's a cringe name that plays by Christian dialectics. Reminds me of the equally cringe "atheism" and "satanism."

>>16866132

I actually kinda wanted to watch Castlevania, but after Netflix did their White Helmets "documentary" I refused to even pirate their originals. I'm glad to see I dodged a bullet.

Hey, I don't agree with Paganism. Will I get banned now?

>>16866151

I hated Berserk's CGI, Doro only dips into 'tolerable'. But I'm not a total graphicsfag, and it follows the manga perfectly, therefore it meets the standard of good. Great is Redline

>>16866153

Better CG than Berserk honestly.

>>16865777

>the asian girl isn't even cute

It's shit

>>16865866

>Hector continues to be a literal bitch, to the point he actually agrees to walk around with a collar because that seems to be the writer's fetish

8 episodes and they spent time on this

>>16865866

>Niggerman asks the demon if he remembers his life in and before hell

Is that how demons work in castlevania? I know it's how yokai work in japanese lore and japs made castlevania.

>Says he was persecuted by Christians because of his beliefs

I have the impression that the greeks used to persecute christians, I know the romans did anyway.

I'm suprised the writer didn't just decanonise god in this show. Was he not allowed to?

>>16866122

westerners can't make hentai

What a shitshow

>>16866168

>nu/a/ (AKA smug/a/) signs the show's praises

A lot of posts in that thread were criticising the cg

>>16866160

By those standards, nothing has been good for decades, and I meant "good" as in "something Japan would do on their own without gaijins fucking everything up" in the first place, really. There is no poz and somehow Netflix is involved, I don't know if they have to animate 20 series with gay nigger protagonists afterwards in exchange, but it's amazing to me that it exists in the current year.

>>16866145

I would just love to see a CV tv series that's nothing but Simon's various battles against Dracula across the classic games.

>>16866174

most of them were me, to be fair

>>16866202

>By the show standards, there's needs to be a god in order to be a hell/devil.

But there is tons of fiction with hell and a devil that don't have god But the writer is too small brained to think of those

>>16866213

You can stop, anon. It's okay. You wanted to show anons how bad Netflix's Castlevania is. And you've done more than enough to show me it's a homosexual's fever dream using the Castlevania brand as an excuse to be gay.

>>16866213

What is up with the vaginal imagery going on with that Buer thing's bow? If they want to put a vagina on it, can't they just do that?

>>16866213

>Not only that, notice how Sypha uses Yeshua.

Ironic considering you could argue that whole scene is antisemitic. It's obviously not since the writer is a huge leftwing soyguzzer, but you could argue it is

Actually, that would make for a good trolling campaign

>Those deleted posts

Could I just say that I'm really tired of shitposters ruining any discussion when it comes to the subject of Christianity?

Away from the netflix show, has anyone played Wallachia yet? The guys from Lecarde Chronicles 2 made a run and gun castlevania. I've played a level, it's neat so far but I wish I had a better controller because mine is utter shit when it comes to precise aiming.

https://www1.zippyshare.com/v/lSGUCOsp/file.html

>>16866264

>The black alchemist from 4 is depicted as a well meaning extremist and gets a dindu nuffin arc

>the succubus from 3 is a dyke and has a poorly animated sex scene with lady and trish in the middle of a fight between dante and some demon

>some priests opens a portal to hell

>vergil is made into a sex slave for mundus

>dante has a three-way with blacked morrison and lady in which he is on the bottom

>>16866163

Being better than dogshit doesn't make something good.

>>16866271

Agreed, I hate Christians. Long live Odin!

If there are any new castlevania games the producers will demand they be niggerpozzed in order to cater to all the new netflix fans, huh.

Netflix Celeste series when?

>>16866471

>klezmer

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

>>16866471

>me gusta

Kindly direct him to Tacitus' Furor Teutonicus on what the Germanic tribes did to fags.

>>16866422

>but the aesthetic is just ugly

It's slightly better here but yeah I agree. There was also a great missed opportunity with LC2 having you use swords instead of the lecarde family's fucking spear lineage, what the fuck migami.

Wallachia is a neat game so far but I'm not a fan of how you lose powerups so willy nilly, you barely get to experience them. Otherwise the megaman influence/ranged combat is actually a really nice fit for a castlevania, but it needs the fixed jump arcs though.

>9 years of Shadow

This looks quite nice. And it's a crowdfunded game that seems to have a prototype instead of just words, that's also nice. I hope it turns out good.

>not safe from the pozz

You can always pirate and shut out the stupid shit. I did that with Timespinner and honestly I didn't like the game that much

>DMC netflix

Somehow the Madhouse anime is going to be better. I just know it.

>>16866529

>SotN

I thought the series was based around Castlevania 3? I haven't watched past the first season.

God damn codemonkey please let me fucking post

>>16866467

>I'm gonna fucking track down this fat piece of shit and make him eat his fedoras while reading him the New Testament just to spite him.

Well, anon, then you better do it. Either that, or take a cover-to-cover trip through the Bible to learn about where demons really come from and where they will always go. It’s one or the other, for God hates the lukewarm.

Game is boring, Miriam a qt though

>>16866545

Oh yeah it is my bad.

SoTN is a direct sequel to Castlevania3.

I really like how in season 2 unlike in the game where everyone knows where the damn castle is and spend functionally THE ENTIRE GAME inside the castle right? (cuz you know? Castlevania right?) But instead the netfucks adaptation has them sitting in a fucking LIBRARY most of the time and are only inside the castle for the last episode, I never wanted to fucking watch Libraryvania and I have no clue how people found that trash entertaining.

I'm not watching the 3rd season but what I saw from anon it would only leave me with a massive headache.

>>16866166

>I have the impression that the greeks used to persecute christians, I know the romans did anyway.

The Roman "persecutions" are whining of eternal victims that managed to win in the end. Christianity was one of the reasons of the collapse of Rome, and when it became state religion, fanatic mobs used to murder the "pagans", destroy temples (that were beautiful works of art by themselves) and also kill each other, because there were dozens of different Christian sects (marcionites, ophites, adamites, simonians, carpocratians, edomites etc.) that fought for influence. I'm not a fedora (not even an atheist at this point), and it's obvious that modern anti-Christian propaganda is an agenda - but it's the truth. There was no fight between good and evil, between poor christian victims and bloodthirsty pagans, but a political struggle for power with an enormous loss of life and priceless artifacts. At least the monks made up for it somewhat by preserving ancient literature.

>>16866467

>Demon tells him he was a philosopher back in Athens when Greeks switched to Christianity

I just realised another reason why this is dumb, it means that bad people are rewarded with superpowers after death

<but they're ugly

Yeah, and have superpowers

>Sparda raping Eva

>Marie / Lady is a brave and stunning trannie

Oh no anon, Eva will be the tranny and sparda's who is now a hermaphrodite demon magic is what allows "her" to be impregnated

>>16866693

Nah, it was romans being dicks

>>16866693

Nigger what are you talking about, chritiniaty if anything made the western roman empire last longer, and was certanly one of the few unfying forces that kept the eastern half going for far longer.

>>16866693

>>16866721

>>16866723

It occurs to me that mark will probably ban us for derailling, though arguably we already did when kikelevaina 3 was brought up

To be far, bloodstained didn't have much to talk about

>>16866721

>I just realised another reason why this is dumb, it means that bad people are rewarded with superpowers after death

That's the logic of christian eschatology for you.

>>16866723

>chritiniaty if anything made the western roman empire last longer

It wasn't the only reason for the collapse, but it added well enough to the chaos, constant infighting between sects and rooting out actually useful faiths like mithraism that was very popular with the soldiers, because it actually promoted close-knit communities, brotherhood, bravery and martial prowess, instead being a religion of dregs of society and slaves (that didn't even disregard slavery at first). The Christianity as we know it, Christianity of chansons de geste, knights, crusaders and monks was a product of western civilization based on old kike tales that were completely foreign to occidental culture.

>>16866731

>its a fucking larpagan

Well there you have it.

>>16866736

>bring up historical facts that aren't a product of mindless fanatical masturbation

>muh larper!!!!

In a different thread when I actually defend this religion as a pillar of modern civilization I get called a christcuck. You morons never understand.

>>16866739

>historical facts

>christianity is a religion of dregs and slaves

>having a bazillion cults in an already fragmented and diverse empire its better than a state religion that actually tries to unify its inhabitants through faith

>>16866741

Stop trying to "win the argument" you assblasted faggot, he's not going ot change his mind, you're not going to change yours

>>16866741

But early christianity was NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE to being unified, you fucking moron. That's something you refuse to comprehend because you imagine that if state declares something, all disagreements and interpretations disappear. This isn't fucking EUIV.

>>16866743

>assblasted

Nigger how new are you?

>>16866744

It was far more uniform than the previus stateof the empire, and it actually went on and the empire did last longer because of it, hell youre not even taking into account the eastern empire.

>>16866780

You're from /a/ aren't you? I can tell because I was there and saw that webm

>>16866785

I am a simple man who enjoys his weebshit

>>16866693

>The Roman "persecutions" are whining of eternal victims

You mean like how you're doing now?

>>16866731

>That's the logic of christian eschatology for you

From some heretical sect that thinks people turn into demons when they die? Or are you saying that merely continuing to exist after death is having a superpower? Most people would disagree

>>16866739

>You morons never understand

Maybe because you're acting like you're bi-polar? You say it's a pillar of modern civilization as if it's a good thing but then say it's a religion of dregs and slaves. If you can't see why people wouldn't understand your schizophrenic back and forth then you're an idiot

>>16866746

>It was far more uniform than the previus stateof the empire

Assuming that's true, that doesn't necessarily make it good. Unity is nice but any good it produces is negated if it's built off of some tyrannical pope dictatorship

<why are you acting bi-polar now

I'm not, I'm criticizing both of you

let me post

>>16866799

>Unity is nice but any good it produces is negated if it's built off of some tyrannical pope dictatorship

Oh, unlike the emperors and tribal chiefs of the time, right?

Seriusly, take a moment to think about the shit you write before you write it, and look at shit in a neutral manner before letting your autism take control of your beliefs.

If you are wondering why the TV show turned into a shit show, all you need to know is how many Jews are on the writing staff. They did this shit for the Rome series too. They turned Cierco, one of the staunchest Roman patriots and celebrated scholars and politicians of the day (whose writings are more than relevant to this very day) into a simpering two faced and cowardly demagogue. Why? Because he also wrote about how Jews were treasonous rats that could never be Roman and when the Romans BTFOed the Jews 150~ years latter the Romans took to heart what he had written earlier. Jews never forgave him and so if you have a Jew responsible for writing about him they will shit all over, because they are petty. Jews do the same shit for the catholic church, because until the 1960s, with the Second Vatican Council that ruined the church, they were still in the cross-hairs of the Catholics. This isn't even /pol/ tier, this is just reality.

>>16866803

>whataboutism

Seriously, take a moment to think about the shit you write before you write it, and get your "o" key fixed before you write words like "Seriusly"

>>16866827

>whataboutism

Not at all, im calling you an hypocrite and an ignorant.

>>16866799

>You say it's a pillar of modern civilization as if it's a good thing but then say it's a religion of dregs and slaves

You lack reading comprehension. Or you think that medieval and modern Christianity is the same as early Christianity, then you're an idiot.

>From some heretical sect that thinks people turn into demons when they die?

Reminder that they believed (some still do) that "pagan" gods exist but they're "demons", servants of a supernatural, powerful entity called Satan that's an antagonist of a supposedly all-powerful, all-knowing and benevolent God, in a religion that's supposed to be a monotheism.

>>16866827

Is this "whataboutism" some new type of a retarded philosophy from reddit?

>>16866837

>"whataboutism"

It's a tactic the left have been using for a year or two now to immediately discard any and all arguments. If someone says "Hitler was the greatest mass murderer of all time" and you say "No, what about Stalin or Mao" they get to immediately circle the wagons, chant "whataboutism", and act like that's an answer.

>>16866830

I don't approve of the emperors or tribal chieftains of the time either, so you're objectively wrong

>>16866837

So you're one of those faggots who think a religion should exist if it's "useful" regardless of whether or not it's true? Take you're cultural christianity and shove it up your ass kike-lover

<but I said in my post that I hate kikes

Yeah, you lied about hating kikes so people wouldn't immediately call you out on love of them

>what's whataboutism

>Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument

You might have known this if you weren't such a sub-sapient negroid

>>16866850

>So you're one of those faggots who think a religion should exist if it's "useful" regardless of whether or not it's true?

You've put it in the simplest way possible, but yes. I tend to agree with Cardinal Dubois' opinion that Christianity is a bogeyman to scare the masses with in order to make them behave. This is especially true when our alternatives are islam or fedoras. Kikes are doing everything in their power to undermine the Christian religion nowadays, because it's rooted deeply into our civilization, and we cannot separate one from the other.

>>16866861

So you're an idiot with no integrity, okay

>>16866780

Christianity absolutely destroyed Rome. Infighting between Romans and Christians was what weakened Rome so that it fell like a house of cards with the Germanic invasions in the first place. If you meant the Byzantine Empire, yes, Orthodox Christianity was a stabilizing force in the East.

>>16866684

No it isn't faggot. SoTN is a direct sequel to Dracula X.

>>16867087

Rome was assimilationist and Christianity is Evangelical. From another view, Roman pagan religion, and pagan religion in general, was disorganized and unprepared to fight off younger, more attractive religions of which Christianity was only one of many, but ultimately the one that won out. If religion comes about from primal questions without apparent answers, then it goes to show that the religion that promises the most answers becomes the most appealing.

tl;dr stop blaming Christianity for everything wrong in your lives lmfao

>>16867105

This still doesn't change your shitty desert religion crashed rome.

>more answers

More like it was simpler so the lower denominators flocked to it. And that it was actively shilled instead of being a thing people just had around.

>>16867090

Damn, I need to work on my Castlevania lore some more then.

>>16867135

Anon, the game from the ground up simply wasnt made for that, it wasn't a problem with laziness, its just simply impossible for them to do.

I'm glad they are at least giving players something else instead of nothing at all, thats something to truly appreciate from good devs who try their hardest to please their customers.

>>16867125

Good, rome was a shitty empire

>>16867185

>Staying on topic is good

Kill yourself.

>>16867162

>The Western Roman empire's Christians were pretty much the same

You keep telling yourself that.

>>16867185

Its moreso whatever thread shills feel like shitting up every so often, generally with such a low user count its worthless to compete.

This crap was already on the previous site though, you clearly missed the mass of threads that went this path.

>>16867201

>You keep telling yourself that.

They were Romans I get you want to be a retard fedora.

>>16867213

So all you can do is call me a fedora eh? About to the quality the thread already is i suppose.

Christianity is worthless by your measure instead, just an obvious point. No clearly beliefs don't effect anything, genetics will always prevail, a clear thing thats totally apparent in the modern world.

>>16867125

If the strongest and smartest are meant to enslave and/or slay the weaker, then I don’t know what else to tell you, because you are mad at exactly how you expect the world to work.

>>16867185

I wonder if you keep getting banned and having your posts deleted because of meta spergouts like this one.

>>16867223

"Strongest and smartest", you aren't smarter for sticking to a religion spawned from inbred weaklings.

Nor for choosing the easy choice of a single god and the safest choices in regards to the beginning of the world.

If you consider the only point of christianity propagation, then it is the greatest sure. However, not exactly something impressive from an actual spiritual view now does it. Nor for any other point of religion.

Christianity would literally never take over if it was on full merits, it just had an aggressive campaign and easy to follow dogma; just like its brother religion.

>>16867185

Don't let the door hit you in the axe wound on your way back to cuck-chan faggo.

>This entire thread.

This is the future of Castlevania threads, isn't it? Because of the Netflix abomination.

>>16867276

It certainly doesn't help that the only other new thing going on in Castlevania's neck of the woods is a mobileshit (Grimoire of Souls i believe the name was).

>>16867276

Unless we can organize some sorta fun competition based around the randomizer mode with seed numbers. I should pirate it.

>>16866273

So playing it some more, I'm really liking it and the whole losing keys on deaths deal makes for a wonderful challenge of never dying throughout the seven levels so you can see what the chests hold.

I just wish Elcin would shut the fuck up and I'd be fighting turks instead of Dracula.

That main menu music is something though. I like this style of music.

>>16866780

>>16867162

I still find it ironic that Atheists like you have made stronger "pro-religion" arguments than the several churches I've gone to while growing up.

>>16867185

>christianity

Religious derailing was rightfully called out years ago, universally agreed to be a shill tactic with even screencaps as proof of anons admitting they know they could use it to derail any thread they wanted on /v/, then for some reason as years went by everyone forgot to call out the shilling, everyone began to continuously bite the bait again and let it derail threads to come.

How this happened I will never know. Sage for metafaggotry.

>>16865674

>>16865706

>>16865719

>>16865738

>>16865758

>>16865777

>>16865866

>>16865978

>>16866053

>>16866122

>>16866126

>>16866213

Thank you for the heads up. It seems it's inexcusable to defend Netflix Castlevania. I look forward to you posting normalfag reactions (if you do so, I understand if there's not much of any to post).

>>16867320

Because while I really don't care for Christianity I hate historic revisionist who try to spin shit or deny history because of a personal narrative, a fuck ton of atheist try doing this with any type of religious topic.

>>16866194

1. Because Japan preferred Alucard to Ricther

2. Because most of the "extra" material took place in comic form, or in Audio drama form. Which makes this gay Alucard bullshit even more hilarious, because ALUCARD ISN'T ACTUALLY GAY. He reciprocated Maria's love a bit (not entirely, though). Weeb fujous and bitchboys constantly misinterpret a clearly defining trait of prettyboy bishounen—not all of them are drawn for ass candy purposes. Japan likes their boys pretty, and considers pretty dudes to be manly and capable of dicking down women proper, with exception of most yaoi that is honestly just a woman with a dick being verbally/emotionally abused until they dick the pretty boy tsundere at some point. But repeating, most pretty dudes are made with the intention of being a woman's sexual fantasy, not some mojo's ass candy bait.

One of the post Symphony Drama CDs gives Alucard an ambiguous gay stalker (think Isaac, but even less character), but Alucard stoically kicks his ass after a moment or two of drama reminiscing training with the guy from Dracula's Castle. He & Maria hook up to be official vampire hunters for a time after that.

>>16867597

>Which makes this gay Alucard bullshit even more hilarious, because ALUCARD ISN'T ACTUALLY GAY. He reciprocated Maria's love a bit (not entirely, though).

He's bi in this, I thought? Fucks his waifu and husbando together. So that doesn't conflict.

>>16866202

Forgemasters could make their own demons and manipulate corpses to reanimate and even trap souls to reanimate corpses. That part where Hector saves the dog is legit from what I remember of the CoD manga. It's just the rest of the bullshit liberties Netflixvania take with Isaac & Hector that are horribly off course. Hell no Forgemasters are not responsible for forging Dracula's army. To start with he'd hardly need them for that since he has the power of Dominance, can trap and use the souls in his fortress easily, and also yeas chaos generates demons inside the fortress.

The two Forgemasters were particularly special because they could make boss level monsters and could actually go toe-to-toe, if not dominate, more talented vampire hunters. CoD establishes a Hector that's rusty as fuck at least managing to fend off a Trevor that first takes it easy on him, and then next time goes "okay bitch gloves are off let's do this".

>>16867598

Except for the part where in the Drama CD, while his twink stalker that's killing villagers lusts for him, he doesn't reciprocate at all. Maria AND Yoko both chase after him.

Trust this is just pozz bullshit because diversity and the director believing nothing that pretty can be straight.

>>16867602

CAN'T be straight wtf.

>>16867620

>I didn't really read the manga, but that's alright and all, you can say all demons are in some way a creation from forgemasters

I could but that would be horribly wrong. The Forgemaster made boss level demons (or Champion level Digimon to be cute with a comparisson). For the most part, Dracula made his own damn army. Those that came from hell to join him, those that were dragged from hell to join him, those that fell from Heaven to join him, the ones birthed from the castle itself, and the souls of the monsters or men he dominated. Both Forgemasters were just a pretty powerful set of extras.

>Regardless, my problem is them not using those designs and instead going with generic shit, except for VERY SPECIFIC fan service cases, and they are just that, shallow fan service.

Zero disagreement. I'm genuinely not looking forward to wasting four hours of my life seeing this shit myself. The designs on the monsters got boring after season 1. The writer's couldn't be assed to even use, at the least, some of the lore demons actually native to Romania. It's bullshit writing, through & through. The lack of design is actually a sign of narrative weakness: instead of crafting episodic monsters that would lead to a bigger puzzle, or even some production level juggernauts that threaten Romania & the north, nah just throw some bait for out-of-place fight scenes that do nothing to connect your parallel B and C plots that for some reason all have the same goddamned importance. The fact these fucks are paid to write this 8th grade level shit pisses me off more than anything.

why even put so much effort into discussing the travesty that is the Netflix show? Season 1 was mediocre at best and that's all that need to be said about it. It's like the star wars sequels with those autists who make multi-hour podcasts and videos "critiquing" the stuff, they're trash and that's all that needs to be said about them but instead they're taking up more discussion time than what's good about Castlevania.

>>16867652

It's because we are literally the only people on the planet who sees the netflix series for the atrocity it is.

>>16867654

Spics apparently hate the show too according to >>16867620

>>16867913

I hope E;R will make something about it. I don't have the patience for anyone else.

>>16864193

I bought it a few days after release on Switch like an absolute retard because people were praising the hell out of it and then I was immediately disappointed by how shitty it ran. I'm sorry but I can't play games at fucking 15 fps. I'm not a graphics stickler and enjoy SNES games to this day, but I force myself to tolerate 30 fps, anything below that is embarrassing. I haven't played it since release though, have they ever fixed the framerate?

One of the biggest let downs for me in modern gaming was the gradual obsession with Graphics that eventually got to the point where developers and normie retards chose graphics/resolution over FPS. That's one of the main reasons I will always consider PC to be superior, because the choice is ours, we aren't forced. I can chose to be retarded and sacrifice FPS for good visuals, or I can chose not to be a poorfag and buy a PC that can give both max graphics and 60+fps, which of course is what I did.

My bad for the off topic blogpost.

>>16867949

I think developers today abuse polygon count as if it didn't matter instead of looking for something effective, along with pointless particles. In fact, when the Switch version was "improved" now it runs at 30fps, I think they had to remake all particles, and now they look the same as in other platforms, but aren't retarded.

>>16867913

>I appreciate mauler for being willing to lead the charge against Episode 8, when mainstream critics were trying to pretend it was literally better than any of the episodes that came before and anyone critical of the movie could expect to be swarmed by shills. I haven't listened to any of his shit since then though, I started avoiding his content like the plague ever since he started having a bunch of obnoxious faggot furries show up on his podcasts

>>16868057

Somehow put quotation at the beginning, please disregard my faggotry

>>16867597

>Japan likes their boys pretty

Japanese women sound like they're queers

>and considers pretty dudes to be manly

Objectively false, lacking testosterone required will result in a lack of manliness

>>16866273

>>16867316

I loved the concept and aesthetics of Wallachia, but the controls are just awful. A gamepad with a decent d-pad is absolutely required to play it. Can't recommend it until the devs fix their shit with the controls.

Game is impossible to play well even with a n-key rollover mechanical keyboard, while all my life I could always emulate 8-bit and 16-bit Castlevanias using shitty $10 membrane keyboards just fine.

>>16868060

It's not that, but these types of things, you know, Doom 4, Castlevania Netflix, the recent Star wars sequels, they somehow take precedence in discussion over the actual good of the series. It's like you don't see all of the dicussion being taken up by Sonic Boom or 06, or Hitman Absolution or the movies, or Human Revolution/Mankind Divided in their threads.

>>16867913

I had Smudboy in mind actually. The dude went from making decent videos about mass effect to having a daily podcast about something or another related to The Last Jedi and being one of those youtubers who makes shitty 10 minute videos about bait articles online from whatever "journalist" site.

>>16868346

I thought it was just my controller since certain angles on the analog just fuck up big time and I have to play around that with sensitivity options on the controller or what have you. Otherwise I didn't really feel the controls were any different from any omni-directional run and gun.

>>16868283

I don't make the rules m8. Tiny rice women with slanted eyes want to be dicked down by twinks. The standing difference is that most of those twinks actually have enough ground focus to make something of their lives, unlike the layabout do-nothings in the west.

>>16868364

roguenigra

>>16868369

Witcher 3 sold heaps before as well, who gives a shit

>>16868369

Netflix ones looks better.

>>16868368

Like I said, I started playing Wallachia using a keyboard, but today I got hold of my Xbox 360 controller (w/ modded dpad). My verdict is that the controls are still terrible, even using a controller.

The game is playable with a controller, but still doesn't play well. The double jump mechanics feel janky af and at least for me, double jumping doesn't work when it's supposed to about 1 out of 4 or 5 times. I also had a bit of difficulty with odd angles occasionally, like you describe.

Gameplay wise, I've also noticed lots of collision glitches and bad hitboxes, with hits not registering when they should, or registering when they shouldn't.

I'm skeptical if the dev will be able to fully fix it, since I got the impression that the game engine used just isn't well suited for a fast paced action game and it would've been better off as a slower paced Metroidvania. It's obvious the game wasn't properly playtested at all.

>>16868368

>10 minute videos

Try 10 hours

>>16865927

But wasn't the Church evil in the games since they killed Dracula's wife?

>>16868905

Hmm I don't know. I like the game, but I cannot objectively describe what I like about the game. It clicks with me, but at the same time I can say that I enjoyed myself more with Lecarde Chronicles 2 and I wished Wallachia was more like that because the world needs more Simon's Quest inspired games.

>>16869050

I can't really think of the church as anything more than the vague organization sending/assisting the Belmonts or any anti-dracula entity but I have not played any of the 3D games so maybe they're expanded on there.

I might be remembering this incorrectly but I believe Castlevania 3 has the belmonts be excommunicated by the church before Trevor being called back for Dracula.

>>16869050

>killed Dracula's wife

>evil

pick one

>>16864173

>failed in implement rouguelike

yeah you wont see me crying about that

>>16864200

>So either the code was already set up before announcing the goal and they promised something they could not do or the code was set up that way after the kickstarter

well weeks before the release they showed that trailer how the game was before and how it become at the current release, if the change was not only graphics but code as well it could explain it.

>>16864840

>It sucks that they're scamming their backers

was it a scam though?

was it a case of:

>if you give us money we will give you a rougelike mode

or it was:

>fuck they already gave us 4x times the original amount we need to use this money some way

>>16869123

Nigger don't you even remember that Lisa was killed because they framed her as a witch when she was researching medicine to help people from the pandemic?

>>16869050

Yes.

>>16864173

>roguelike mode

>in a perfectly well made game with good level design

bullet dodge, rougelikes are shit and the fad couldn't die fast enough

>>16869141

Why not plan actual tangible goals and have a point

>we won't add anything beyond X dollars mark,

>>16869141

If

>we will give you x for y

<you gave us y but we decided we won't give you x

isn't scamming then I don't know what is, you giant fucktard.

>>16869360

i dont think kickstart allows it

>>16869371

in this case yes its a scam but what about the second one?

>>16869172

I suppose they framed her as dracula's wife too?

>>16868749

Yeah but unlike Witcher which was banking off of the success of the games Castlevania hasn't had a game in forever. This is the only thing of substance that has been shown for Castlevania in a long ass time and normalfags will defend it in droves. Not to get too dramatic, but the ramifications of this will be felt for a long time.

>>16869688

inb4 they make a Mirror of Fate tier shitfest game based off the show and it turns out to be CV: Fuck You edition. It's gonna be great.

>Manbabies hate the new Castlevania because it plays at 30 fps, and that's a good thing

>The time is right for a gay Belmont

>The true villain of the castlevania games is the rabid fanbase

>>16869135

>if the change was not only graphics but code as well it could explain it.

It would explain the terrible framerate on switch too.

>>16870254

>Leon dropped fucking everything, even his weapons, the moment he caught a whisper of Sarah's disappearance

This was always hilarious to me. In an alternate universe Leon would have probably leapt out of the shower with nothing but a bath towel on to go fuck up Dracula.

Or maybe instead of the Belmont family's whip he would have strolled in the castle with nothing but bare handed martial arts passed down from generation to generation, complete with their own version of the Izuna Drop or something.

I'm not feeling Lament of Innocence so far to be honest. Filler corridors are fine in 2D igavanias, but not filler rooms and recycled rooms in 3D.

>>16873653

If that's how you feel then you won't get into CoD either. It's a matter of you have it or you love it. Both PS2 games are very flawed, but, personally, they are very enjoyable since I really don't mind corridors, even though I know it could have been better.