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eec8de No.16862870[Last 50 Posts]
Sorry for the fucklazy OP, but I don't really have anything else to add.
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fa5596 No.16862879
>spoiler
Don't worry OP, you still gave it more effort than Valve did.
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27385d No.16862882
>teleporting movement
Dropped. I called it from the fucking beginning but valvedrones/crossposters defended it still, denying that it would be the case. What's more, every environment is just a corridor. Holy shit, this is going to be such a garbage fucking game. I don't think I'll even consider pirating it at this point.
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c52e6d No.16862887
>voiced protag
While I don't see any other way around this, I'm still not happy about it.
What really gets under my skin is the guy talking to you, that shit needs an option to be disabled.
>>16862879
I'm seeing this meme recently, but I don't get it. This isn't a lazy asset-flip or anything.
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eec8de No.16862888
>>16862882
There are multiple movement options tho, teleportation is just one of them
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b267fa No.16862890
>>16862882
If your gay ass retard brain knew anything about the game you'd know it also has continuous movement. Looks like it's time for gay dumdum to go back to the dumdum factory.
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c52e6d No.16862893
>>16862882
The game also has smooth locomotion like how Boneworks does, the game has teleportation for people who get motion sickness from moving around in VR.
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ebe49b No.16862894
>VR cinematics
I'm not one of those waify fucks that can't handle VR but that would make me vomit out of annoyance.
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27385d No.16862896
>>16862890 (valvedrone)
>>16862888 (valvedrone with trips)
Care to post some gameplay videos with this "continuous movement"? Or will you admit that "continuous movement" really just translates to "walk around a small area but you're forced to teleport to get any further than 2-3 steps"
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eec8de No.16862898
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>>16862896
>Care to post some gameplay videos with this "continuous movement"?
lmao ok
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c52e6d No.16862902
>>16862894
I hope to fuck that's just something the guy playing did, and not actually apart of the game. That visual disconnect would make me fucking sick.
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ebe49b No.16862905
>>16862902
I don't think so, I looked it back before running my mouth. There seems to be an obvious point where """gameplay""" starts.
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eec8de No.16862906
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The final gameplay video Valve released, this one showing a shootout with the Combine.
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b267fa No.16862907
>>16862896
Listen I don't give a shit about this game, I don't have VR and prob won't ever. What I do hate is dumb retards. You're a real dumb retard. Hope you find somewhere else to be subhuman. I genuinely hate you.
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27385d No.16862908
>>16862898
Well if this video is to be believed, then I was wrong - but this game will still be garbage and people here will still buy it. Judging by the locales, it clearly isn't meant to be played like a fast-paced shooter like Half Life 1 and 2 were, it's going to be cinematics first and gameplay second. What you niggers need to realize is that Valve wasn't developing HL: Alyx this whole time we were waiting for HL3. They probably only started last year, and it shows, considering how little effort was put into the gameplay.
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2cda72 No.16862911
What people wanted: Half-Life 3 or Half-Life 2 Episode 3 to resolve that clifhanger ending after so many years of no new games in the franchise.
What Valve delivers: A shitty VR game in the Half-Life series that nobody asked for.
Reminds of that Kickstarter video for Clang I think with Gaben smithing a crowbar and saying "These things take time." When is that time Gaben? When will an actual Half-Life game come out or are you satisfied with taking free money from Steam for the rest of your life? I guess it'll end up like that Kickstarter, never coming out.
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eec8de No.16862915
>>16862911
>Reminds of that Kickstarter video for Clang
Clang clang?
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ebe49b No.16862917
>>16862911
>What people wanted:
Shit, I would have settled for a Blue Shift sequel/remake in VR. Running around the madness of Black Mesa during the resonance cascade would have been a treat.
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eec8de No.16862923
>>16862917
Apparently they're thinking about making a sequel to Blue Shift if Alyx does well.
Fuck knows if they'll ever do a HL3
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ebe49b No.16862928
>>16862923
>HL3
I'm of the mind I never even wanted an HL2, at least in hindsight, let alone 3. I just always wanted more surrounding the incident. I'd even play some VR walking adventure game involving Kleiner, really.
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033bf7 No.16862932
>>16862923
I wouldn't mind a new opposing force.
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0b007f No.16862948
>VR Exclusive
>requires a cutting edge PC to run
>all gameplay footage is showing "teleportation movement"
>floating hands because IK arms are too difficult for a company like Valve
>not actually HL3, just a side game no one asked for
>gameplay so far just looks like a tech demo even moreso than HL2
>Was humbled by an indie VR game before it was even announced
This should by all means be a flop, but listen up. I'm gonna roll for some digits and if they're good digits, then the game will flop. But Valvedrones will eat any shit that Gabe pumps out after eating his cheeseburgers. Whatever comes out of this, is just what happens and we can't really change that.
But
The last Half Life game came out in 2007. That was 13 years ago. There are people who have been waiting over a DECADE for this shit and are desperate for whatever they can get their hands on. Wouldn't it be a shame if we spoiled it for them, like we did for Fallout 4 fans 5 years ago? I think we're due for another salt party.
Let's wait and see and anything worth spoiling comes out. Valve does a pretty good job of not letting things leak these days, but if some autist can get their hands on spoiler-worthy content before most people finish the game, that would be fantastic. It would truly be a happy ending even if the game was commercially successful.
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ebe49b No.16862951
I'm almost sure they have entirely lost sight by not including some sort of Black Mesa hazard course sort of puzzling thing in The Lab. They have way too much turnover, lack of discipline and structure to keep anything Half-Life related anything but threadbare.
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d2ec7e No.16862952
>>16862948
>bad digits
Well, it looks like the game might be a commercial success. However, that doesn't stop the possibility of a salt party. C'mon, /v/. I think we've earned it.
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ebe49b No.16862961
>>16862952
<salt party
This isn't twitch, nigger.
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10e1a2 No.16862963
>>16862961
What can you expect of someone that goes
>Bad digits
>We earned it
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88f3e0 No.16862964
>>16862908
It’s a nostalgia cash grab designed by nuValve for bleeding-edge hardware and spysoftware retarded hipster faggots. VR right now as a whole is basically nothing but an amusement park ride simulator and only people with more dollars than sense buy into it.
In my experience there’s nothing special about strapping the television to your face, wearing headphones, and using power gloves. VR’s practical applications as a way to play any kind of game where you’re not in some sort of cockpit are basically none. That being said I don’t think VR developers are really trying to push their own fucking medium’s limits and are just plopping VR into any first person game. I sometimes like to imagine playing a war game in VR. You’re standing in a cold war style military bunker room with a table in front of you, holographic projections of all your troops can be commanded, you can rotate, angle, and zoom the map in place or simply walk around it. Fully customizable controls where hand and finger movements in any combination can be mapped to perform quick key actions. Might even be able to make an RTS out of it. But no we need Skyrim or Minecraft in VR, games where adding VR does nothing to enhance the gameplay elements.
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ebe49b No.16862968
>>16862948
>>floating hands because IK arms are too difficult for a company like Valve
I don't ride everything you're saying, but you can learn that shit in Blender in maybe two days.
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d682df No.16862975
>>16862898
I am extremely concerned about the walking speed shown in this video and the IGN video. If you can't go fast without using the teleport/shift mode this game will be fucking garbage. I understand taking it slow to show off the environments in a trailer, but for actual gameplay it's very important to be able to run.
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8b401f No.16862979
>It's shit
Not big surprise
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119165 No.16862981
>>16862908
Not surprised if it is all cinematic. Everyone who knew how to make an actual game is gone from valve, and shit like Campo Santo sure as fuck isn't capable of anything deeper than a Walking Sim.
Speaking of, did they show anything off of Back 4 Blood yet?
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ebe49b No.16862983
>>16862964
>brings up simulator
>says nothing of actual simulators
You've been huffing your own gas way too long. VR has way more radical applications outside of vidya.
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355b62 No.16862987
>3rd video
>realistic 5.45 spam crate in the porta potty
>smashes it open to reveal a single 1911 mag and foam nuts
Wew lad.
Gameplay looks serviceable enough, the production quality is the highest for VR games to date, and according to Valve the game will be as long as a main title, so plenty of content to take in as well.
Still won't buy it because I'm a poorfag that can't afford a VR headset or a good PC, so I might just watch the story relevant parts on Youtube.
Hopefully they won't go on a VR game frenzy like that rumored Barney game, I'd really prefer a proper singleplayer FPS again, hopefully with better gameplay than what we had with more recent installments of the series so far.
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ebe49b No.16862994
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>>16862987
>production quality
Am I crying?
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7d991b No.16862995
>>16862882
> valvedrones
These are no normal valvedrones. Anyone waiting for Half-Life sequels is an altogether different and more pitiful beast.
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82cdb7 No.16862997
>>16862923
We'll never get HL3, because Valve as a company can stay alive longer than any given gamer who played Half-Life. They know if they try to make HL3 they'll end up with a fucked-up mess that will make a ton of money but damage their reputation as a games company. They don't really care about making more money right now IF it's going to result in them looking even more incompetent with respect to making games, because someday they know they'll need to fall back on their ability to develop games in order to stay relevant. That's what this VR thing is: an attempt to keep alive some myth that they only make games that are somehow "fresh" and boundary-pushing.
It's either that or they want to keep HL3 in their back pocket so they can break it out as soon as they need a guaranteed cash infusion, which is probably closer to what they're actually thinking. If they wait too long everyone who actually knew anything about the series will have moved on (if they haven't already).
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ebe49b No.16863000
>>16862997
<Valve as a company can stay alive longer
I'm not sure you've seen the state of steam forums in recent years since they've attempted to tap the bug market.
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fc2e09 No.16863001
>>16862948
>Requires a cutting edge PC to run
>RX 580 minimum
<A 2 year-old budget GPU that goes for $180 new
>12GB of RAM
<You can get 16GB DRR4 for $80
>Ryzen 5 1600
<1st gen of a CPU line that's currently on it's 3rd generation
<Goes for <$100 on average
These are minimum VR requirements. There's nothing special or even expensive about putting a machine together to run this game.
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fbb41b No.16863005
This trailer doesn't look like real gameplay. Everything's going to smoothly. If it was real the player would accidentally miss those items they sling towards themselves with the gravity gun
Unlike some anons here, I don't have a problem with this existing. But I don't want VR to be the future of gaming either.
I don't think vr can really have good gameplay, it's still and probably will continue to be a gimic or a sort of themepark-style experience.
This was probably the only way a new half-life game was going to be made. Valve lost interest in making games and stopped doing so, but VR interested them so they made this.
They prioritised having fun with their new toy during development over making a good game.
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88f3e0 No.16863006
>>16862983
>think of how great VR is for things other than video games
>/v/
Your big-picture concepts about the practical applications of VR hardware outside of the realm of video games is confusing and makes my head hurt and smoke come out of my ears so just stop you big meanie doo-doo face.
I won’t (can’t) spend any brain power thinking beyond my own very limited scope that pertains only to the topic of the board of which we are on and if you continue then I’ll have to report you for shitposting and derailing to the hotpocket team.
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7d991b No.16863008
>>16863001
>These are minimum VR requirements. There's nothing special or even expensive about putting a machine together to run this game.
No, it's just fucking stupid. Fuck VR and all gamers who support it. It should be rejected out of principle. I don't give a shit about freedom either. This should be enforced.
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ebe49b No.16863012
>>16863001
It's not about the specs, it's about the bruteforcing with intern rejects and newniggers making most of it with wild abandon for optimization.
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355b62 No.16863013
>>16862994
I guess you are.
Compare what we have seen so far with any other VR game that is out currently and you'll see that its visual design, graphical quality and length dwarfs any of them.
It's going to be as long as Boneworks at the very least.
Think of the game's quality what you want, but in comparison to pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE on the market right now, it's going to be the king, nobody is going to talk about anything else for a long while, until the next killer app for VR comes out.
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0b007f No.16863018
>>16863001
Those are just the minimum requirements. Not "play this smoothly without any issues or eyesores" requirements. Particularly, it's a game that shouldn't require 12GB of RAM.
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27385d No.16863020
>>16863018
>>16863012
Ignore him - judging by his post history he just loves stirring shit up and acting (hopefully) like a complete retard
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fc2e09 No.16863024
>>16863008
Okay… but that doesn't defeat my argument that these aren't the specs of a cutting edge PC. Most of these requirements are asking for hardware that has been succeeded multiple times.
>>16863012
If you take the requirements against the minimum it takes to run VR then this game is fairly optimised.
>Takes 4GB of VRAM to run basic VR effectively because even lower resolution headsets are 1440x1440 * 2 so just projecting the images itself consumes a lot of VRAM
>So the game itself isn't asking for much with 6GB
>You need 8GB of RAM for VR so 12GB as a requirement is really only asking for 4GB of free RAM
>Asking for a really fucking basic quad core processor
>>16863018
Minimum for VR and minimum for non-VR is different. Minimum for VR (from a competent dev) is "What you need to run this game at the 90fps to avoid motion sickness"
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fbb41b No.16863030
>>16862948
>all gameplay footage is showing "teleportation movement
Teleportation movement looks like it would be overpowered.
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fc2e09 No.16863031
>>16863020
>Judging by his post history
You mean my one post in this thread?
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355b62 No.16863038
>>16863020
Mark, if that really is you, using someone's post history outside of the thread they're in is the gayest shit ever, you're doing the imageboard equivalent of scrolling through someone's posting history in a vain attempt to win an argument, like some fucking redditor or forum weasel.
Let his arguments sit on their own and actually ban people who shitpost.
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119165 No.16863047
>>16862983
>You've been huffing your own gas way too long. VR has way more radical applications outside of vidya.
The idea of having to insert a chip into my brain(like Valve wants us to do) because it's supposedly the only way VR will ever become good makes me not want it at all.
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355b62 No.16863053
>>16863043
I was making a fucking statement, you were the one who brought up external posting histories like some fucking Stasi officer.
If you want to clean up trash then delete your own post.
>>16863048
Yes, but Vol/BO matters should be Vol/BO matters, if someone is shitposting everywhere, then fucking ban him instead of saying "hoho hey guys this guy is stirring shit up ignore him pl0x!".
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27385d No.16863055
>>16863045
Done LARPing, stormfag? I hate to tell you this, but nobody here is actually serious about the nazi worship shit. You faggots and your LARPing psychopath shooting up innocent muslims caused 8chan to get shut down, so I'd prefer if you shut the fuck up.
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7d991b No.16863060
>>16863037
My machine is twice as much as yours. Or at least was a year ago. But I still don't buy VR. It's only slightly less retarded of an interface as "tablet/smartphone" gaming.
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355b62 No.16863065
>>16863064
>he says as he posts a halfchan meme
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000000 No.16863067
>teleporting movement that totally won't be used to jank around enemies continuously so you can't get hit
>shoot zomb pew pew x1000
>awkward banter that has little comedic value unlike in HL2 where it was actually funny occasionally and you could just ignore it
>antlion juice was the secret ingredient for all the health stations(?)
>physics that are going to be gmod-tier when the game releases
>puzzles that serve no practical purpose except to serve as a gimmick for vr
>bootleg flood from halo
>combine die in 1-2 hits from a pistol when in HL2 they would take half an SMG mag
how the mighty fall, at least it looks pretty, and this is all just a way to kill the hype so they can release episode 3 and actually have it receive good reviews instead of shit ones because it wasn't the best fucking game in existence
also one of volvo's official screenshots of the game had a noticeable
ERROR
model they tried to hide and crop out
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48693f No.16863069
>>16863067
>teleporting movement
You have the option just walk.
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a69659 No.16863073
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000000 No.16863076
>>16863069
but a lot of people aren't going to use that option because movement in VR is shit and always will be, so they'll just zip around everywhere and never get hit
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6f9169 No.16863077
>>16862870
>teleporting movement
13 YEARS FOR THIS SHIT
I'd be pissed, if the gamergate years didn't make me expect this shit.
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355b62 No.16863078
>>16863066
Unfortunately you're right.
The sands of time are a bitch.
I don't even know why I come here anymore.
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48693f No.16863081
>>16863076
Eh, depends on the headset/controls you have. It's retarded they don't give just mouse+keyboard controls, the excuse is "muh immersion".
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6f9169 No.16863083
>>16863038
I'm Mark, this thread has too many faggots.
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d682df No.16863087
>>16863077
Mark you stupid kike look at the other videos:
>>16862898
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355b62 No.16863091
>>16863083
Evidently.
Was the guy I talked to just a shitposter?
I assumed so after his second post, since it sounded like it was made specifically to stir up stormfags, instead of something a Vol should say, but I don't know the "professionalism" of your "hiring".
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6f9169 No.16863096
>>16863087
Huh, guess it's good for those who want options I guess.
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6f9169 No.16863098
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355b62 No.16863110
>>16863098
Well, sorry for accusing you for doing gay forum shit.
Do Vols even have capcodes? It's been so long that I don't remember ever seeing anyone with one.
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fbb41b No.16863111
>>16863083
=WHY DID YOU MAKE THE NUDES MARK?==
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82cdb7 No.16863112
>>16863067
Isn't it basically a rail shooter at this point? You can walk around, but if you're able to just teleport from point to point then the game has to be designed to that lower denominator. I guess it's possible that you're teleporting to NPC movement nodes or something, so maybe the level design won't be hamstrung. I dunno. If I think of the game as Half-Life: Time Crisis it explains the pistol being overpowered. And HL2 was early on full of physics puzzles that were there just to show off the physics and the gravgun, so is anyone surprised that they'd do the same thing for this next game? Every major HL release since HL2 seems like it has to have some fancy ass new technology that it's showing off. It may or may not get better further into the game.
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6f9169 No.16863114
>>16863110
They do.
>>16863112
OP may be misleading. Seems like there's both a walking and teleportation option, likely for those with motion sickness. Truth be told, this doesn't look like something I'd buy a thousand dollar piece of technology for.
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d682df No.16863120
>>16863114
>Truth be told, this doesn't look like something I'd buy a thousand dollar piece of technology for.
The Samsung Odyssey+ will play this game and is under 300 dollars. Index is the most expensive consumer headset on the market and not necessary to get into VR.
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6f9169 No.16863132
>>16863120
Yes, but that's still quite a steep price for a platform which hasn't gotten many interesting games. I was playing Chronos on the Oculus, and there really wasn't much of a difference when compared to other games in the genre. While VR is certainly interesting for FPS games, I'd argue that while the potential is there, there's also a lot of copy and paste crap on the platform right now, due to the fact that it can be seen as a "failed platform". Ironically enough, I think something like God Hand would've benefited greatly from VR, mainly in terms of its janky camera system.
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ac65b5 No.16863144
>>16863120
Sure, you can play this without the Index but you can also play the Witcher 3 on the Switch. You can, but it's a significantly worse experience than intended, guaranteed to be nothing more than an afterthought. So why would you?
And it's still paying 250 at a minimum for one single game. Valvetards may find paying over a thousand bucks worth it for this garbage but me, refusing to pay more than 20 for any one game and rarely buying games at all, why would I consider this?
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6f9169 No.16863156
>>16863144
I'd argue that there's some worth for Witcher 3 on the Switch due to the fact that you can take it with you, be it on the way to work or at your mates place while he's taking a shit. This situation would be more comparable to playing a modern game like say Cyberpunk on a 500 dollar laptop.
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119165 No.16863161
Switcher 3 can at least hide behind portability, since it's likely still better than playing it on a laptop, and people are generally willing to take the hit to the frame rate if they have freedom of movement. VR, on the other hand appears to be somewhat regressive, since even the mere act of WALKING is shown to be somewhat cumbersome. iirc too, that thousand dollar headset's control stick is a piece of shit because they didn't want to add it in the first place. I just don't see the appeal of this thing.
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f6a528 No.16863164
>>16862870
Can you grope Alyx?
If not then whats the fucking point?
Why you make it WR if you can abuse yourself her?
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d682df No.16863166
>>16863144
>Sure, you can play this without the Index but you can also play the Witcher 3 on the Switch. You can, but it's a significantly worse experience than intended, guaranteed to be nothing more than an afterthought.
Not at all comparable. If your PC is up to it, Alyx will run smoothly on whatever headset you use, unlike the Switch version of TW3, and the Odyssey+ is the same resolution as the Index. The only things you're missing out on are 120/144 fps (and it's not guaranteed 144 fps will be possible for Alyx, lots of games can't hit that even with a 2080ti), the grip sensors which are mostly a gimmick, and SteamVR's better tracking compared to WMR.
>for one single game.
There's Boneworks, Pavlov, assorted indie garbage, simulators, unofficial ports of classics like Doom and HL1 that work pretty well, and more to come. It may still not be worth it for you, but there is absolutely more than one game worth playing once you have VR.
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6f9169 No.16863168
>>16863164
You can't grope Alyx, because you ARE Alyx. Do you grope your balls every time you're sexually aroused anon?
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6f9169 No.16863171
>>16863166
Perhaps, but the market for VR is too experimental and linear with content before it can be recommended to the masses. It's like buying a game console at launch.
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c8660c No.16863173
This is truly groundbreaking stuff; the first gaming masterpieces of the 2020s.
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000000 No.16863174
>>16863168
>Do you grope your balls every time you're sexually aroused anon?
absolutely I do, post tits or gtfo
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000000 No.16863177
>>16863168
>>16863174
>it's mark
never mind
neck yourself with barbed wire
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6f9169 No.16863180
>>16863177
You've already seen my tits anun-kun~
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3070d1 No.16863181
>>16863164
That’s the first thing that comes to mind when a new HALF LIFE game is coming out? Not that it’s A FULL GAME IN VR? But whether you can fondle someone? Jesus fucking Christ dude, you got issues.
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ac65b5 No.16863184
>>16863181
VR has no use outside of porn. It gets in the way of actually playing a game and porn is the only utility that could remotely be enhanced by porn. Stop being a faggot.
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6f9169 No.16863185
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152a9c No.16863187
>>16863181
>A FULL GAME
More like an extra long tech demo
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f6a528 No.16863194
>>16863181
>this whole post
What happened with this place? When this shithole got prude?
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119165 No.16863196
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16863184
This, VR as it is adds nothing to games, and will only be useful if Valve gets it's way and implants brain chips into you.
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6f9169 No.16863200
>>16863194
Stop being a twat and laugh at the newfag.
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6f9169 No.16863203
>>16863201
Now you're just baiting.
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050824 No.16863204
>>16863201
This is some really well written bait.
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6f9169 No.16863205
>>16863204
No, it's not. Well written bait usually isn't seen as bait. Bait MUST be stealthy, that's the whole point of bait.
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fbb41b No.16863209
>>16863168
>You can't grope Alyx, because you ARE Alyx
Correction: You can't grope Alyx because the player model is a disembodied set of hands with no breasts
>Do you grope your balls every time you're sexually aroused anon?
You knew the kind of answers this question would get. I think you asked it on purpose for shits and giggles
>>16863196
But anon, you can open car does and hide behind them!
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6f9169 No.16863210
>>16863206
No, it was too obvious. The FIRST post was good, and then he ruined it.
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ebe49b No.16863211
>>16863020
Anon, I know exactly what I'm doing. I ran Deus Ex VR closing in on 20 years ago.
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6f9169 No.16863213
>>16863209
>You knew the kind of answers this question would get. I think you asked it on purpose for shits and giggles
Yes
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fbb41b No.16863217
>>16863212
I hope he knows that we're all wondering why he took nudes of his asshole when they would inevitably get leaked. He probably leaked them on purpose
Goreanon should post those but with a fleshwound photoshoped onto his asshole
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eec8de No.16863229
>it's the autistic schizo faggot who literally has all the "Offended (xyxy).jpg" images
You act like anons have never seen gore before. Get your weak bitch-ass shit outta here.
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ebe49b No.16863230
>>16863220
Imagine being triggered by good boy Billy. What a holocaust of wannabe newhalfs it always is. Low test. No rest. Corona do your best.
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eec8de No.16863235
Also VIDEO GAMES
Valve made Alyx to push the Index, then barely produced any Indexes. What kind of logic was that? They had like 50,000 unit in total, for a new game in a series where every single entry has sold in the tens of millions.
Did they really underestimate demand that hard?
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6f9169 No.16863238
>>16863234
>Being this much of a faggot
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eec8de No.16863239
>>16863236
>I had fun talking with you guys
The feeling was not mutual, go away
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ebe49b No.16863240
>>16863237
How's it feel that LiveLeak is dead now?
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6f9169 No.16863247
>>16863240
still up for me
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c52e6d No.16863251
People say Mark shits up the board, but last time I checked Mark never went into an massive proxyfag spergout for no reason, derailing an actual video game thread.
>>16863211
Did you reply to the wrong post? I think you meant to reply to the one about specs.
>>16863246
Nigga you're doing more harm to the board than Mark is at the moment, shut up
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ed31d2 No.16863255
>>16862870
>>16862898
>>16862906
This gameplay looks so slow in comparison to the other HL games. I know they have to deal with VR limitations, but that doesn't mean you need to have zombies coming at you one-by-one. My only hope for this game is for it to inspire Valve to actually work on something that isn't fucking Dotard or Cancerstrike for once.
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119165 No.16863256
>>16863235
>What kind of logic was that?
It's not really made to sell the headset, more so because the card game bombed, and their cash shops are starting to die, god knows TF2 already is..
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eec8de No.16863264
>>16863260
>>16863261
>>16863262
Dude, give up already. Everybody knows it's you samefagging.
>>16863256
Valve has always made ten times more money from Steam sales than any of their games, that argument doesn't work.
Artifact was also a passion project for most of the devs, the problem is they made a game nobody wanted to play then dropped it hard after launch. Alyx was in development for years, even before Artifact.
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6f9169 No.16863266
>>16863235
They probably don't expect it to catch the world on fire like steam did back in the day. I honestly don't blame them since it's been over ten years since Episode 2, and no one knows if the series has the same appeal as it did. I do think the game will be popular, but not as popular as previous games. Either way we'll have to wait and see.
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d682df No.16863271
>>16863235
They made Alyx to push SteamVR. They made the Index because HTC was dropping the ball with their SteamVR headsets, their original plan wasn't to get into the hardware business themselves.
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119165 No.16863279
>>16863264
>Valve has always made ten times more money from Steam sales than any of their games, that argument doesn't work.
To be more clear, as i understand it, the issue is with the bruised ego that card game caused, along with, apparently, losing the Dota chess thing to epic. That's apparently when they started to take development of HLX seriously, compared to LFD3 and HL3.
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540662 No.16863298
>>16863194
It looks like bait to me, partner.
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2a5822 No.16863301
How big is the pirate scene for vr? How quickly would it be pirated?
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d682df No.16863322
>>16863301
Immediately. There's not anything special about pirating the Steam version of a VR game that I know of. I haven't tried it yet, but the places I get pirated games from have VR games.
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ac65b5 No.16863491
Now that I think about it, VR is all about immersion and shit, isn't it? How the fuck can you justify including nonchalant teleportation in a game like this and pretend like that's fine? No one in the world sees you just jump around from point to point? I get the whole motion sickness argument but teleportation, unless explained as an in-universe mechanic like some VR games have done, completely breaks immersion and defeats the whole point of it being a fucking VR game.
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3d9f69 No.16863508
>>16863264
> they made a game nobody wanted to play
they made a game no one was willing to spend 20 bucks on. you can't even sell paper TCG anymore unless you're a long established brand (FFG's LCG model is the only thing that comes close and that still gets worse over time because the perceived buy-in becomes to big).
even when the money up front was "fairer" in the long run, it was retarded when most games it competed with are f2p.
>>16863491
> I get the whole motion sickness argument but teleportation, unless explained as an in-universe mechanic like some VR games have done, completely breaks immersion and defeats the whole point of it being a fucking VR game.
unless you ever had it happen to you you really don't. it can really fuck you up and it isn't over when you take of the headset.
the other thing is valve, retarded as they are, designed the original vive wand without a stick, and navigating a horizontal plane with the touchpad is fucking aids, as good as the touchpad might be technically with it's haptics and shit. so the original "vision" was to have teleportation only. worse, since the market is small as fuck you still have to support that shit even if you don't want to because too many people still have them.
with a stick itself it's pretty chill, so you have to wonder what they were smoking back then.
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523848 No.16863513
>>16863491
That's why they offer smooth locomotion you fucking idiot. They said it's the optimal way to play.
They offer teleportation because lots of people get motion sick.
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ac65b5 No.16863516
>>16863513
>They said it's the optimal way to play.
Which is why it was the only mode of transportation for the longest time, so much so that they cancelled their Game Award show because smooth locomotion wasn't complete?
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2ddaa8 No.16863517
>>16862948
>>16862952
Salt parties don't work anymore. The only salt party that actually had any degree of success was the Fallout 4 Boston Salt Party.
When /v/ decided to spoil KH3 for people it didn't work at all and barely anyone besides some no-name low viewer streamers were spoiled.
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720730 No.16863519
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ebe49b No.16863602
>>16863247
It's not about it still being up, it's about it changing management and becoming a safe space of kitten videos now, more or less, and certainly can't say no-no words anymore, as if it's fucking kindergarten for goreposters.
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ebe49b No.16863603
>>16863519
They're teaching her how to nest, how sweet.
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449cbf No.16863605
What the hell happened here?
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ebe49b No.16863608
>>16863605
Hell if I know, everyone caught a wave of trash collectively, I guess.
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eca638 No.16863619
I get the feeling VR doesn't look good to non-VR users. It really feels like a "you have to try it to really appreciate it". Problem of course is how expensive that ultimately is.
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ba08c9 No.16863667
>>16863619
It really does look way better in VR. Look up gameplay of the Walking Dead "Saints and Sinners" game. Looks kinda ass on a regular video but I swear when I look up at the sky it looks just like the real thing. Things actually feel like they're there, and when I describe experiences to my friends I actually walk around and can give an accurate scale to things.
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23ed63 No.16863709
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6f9169 No.16863734
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860142 No.16863747
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6f9169 No.16863757
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a629ab No.16863760
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Nice leaked footage! Very cool.
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41d29b No.16863768
>>16863760
>hooktube
hownewru.jpeg
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5a2bd2 No.16863774
>>16863747
>>16863695
>>16863709
There's apparently some footage that the VNN autist was showing, that included Alyx's original VA for the game.
Always wondered why they replaced her. Now we know.
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eec8de No.16863778
>>16863774
VNN actually did an entire interview with the original VA, she never mentioned she wasn't voicing Alyx anymore.
What she did mention on Twitter was that she went into the studio to record lines, but they replaced them with a different person. No reason as to why was given.
It's strange, considering Alyx is half-black half-Asian, just like Merle Dandridge is.
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23ed63 No.16863784
>>16863778
Being an asian-groid mutt isn't diverse enough anymore, either you go full sheboon or you will get shut down for being a nazi.
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078bea No.16863797
>>16863778
Because not even the nutypes value mutts
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47e3e1 No.16864169
>>16863619
> Problem of course is how expensive that ultimately is.
it's 150 bucks on sale, that's as much as xniggers pay for a not shit gamepad. and you can't even use it for porn.
>>16863695
>They offer teleportation because it takes the lowest amount of effort to make.
not true, teleportation involves quite a bit more than "press stick move forward"
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4980c1 No.16865245
>>16864513
<index is the only vr headset
<every doublequote is a failed italic
<doesn't know the first thing that's required to get teleportation implemented
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145284 No.16865305
wtf happenned to my posts?
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dd1b94 No.16865592
Polite sage to attach an image that >>16863067 is talking about
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4d4a4d No.16865920
>>16865592
>>16863067
>Big ERROR 3d text
At least they didn't have the good ol' purple and black checkers. Glad to see the color palette is still stuck using blue, orange and gray to pad out the color depth. Anyone have that webm where they talk about the engine limitations of source, especially in CS:GO's battle royale mode?
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000000 No.16865972
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16865920
I will expound on this because while I'm not a modder I have fucked around enough in gmod and Hammer to know what I'm saying, though you can still take all this with a grain of salt.
Source is fucking abysmal for developers. It is absurdly difficult to import custom content for it since it relies on proprietary file formats that there is no easy way to export to, the process for converting a standard Blender model to MDL format to be used in mods or SFM is dozens of pages long. It also grows incredibly archaic each year, and while it was designed to be upgradeable and adapted for newer hardware, it's still showing it's age both outside and under the hood. The development tools have had no real updates since 2013, and they all look and behave like they belong in 2003.
The reason why I'm amazed they got a battle royale at all is that everything ultimately gets funneled through Hammer, including map and game logic. Source is very stiff; it does not like being dynamic or doing dynamic events. In HL2, it is mostly an entirely linear game, you get pushed through the level, some scripted events happen, you shoot the aliens, and you move on to the next map, repeat approximately 40 or so times. Danger Zone has an ABSURD amount of dynamic events that have to occur based on players remaining, player locations, game stats, and probably dozens of other logic elements that I couldn't be able to list if I tried. All those elements have to constantly be in check with one another, and they can only be changed in a now 8 year old map editor in a 17 year old engine that was meant for linear FPS games that just wants to lay down and fucking die already.
The nice thing about Source 2 is that it's mostly backend improvements. Games look prettier, sure, but the dev tools they're teasing look worlds better than what we've had with Source for almost two decades now, and given how Volvo has been making strides towards lubing up the open source community with their Wine and Vulkan contributions, they should make adding custom content much more straightforward and simpler now. It's a shame we're probably not going to get gmod 2 since garry turned into a cuck with whatever the fuck Sandbox is, but something should come along to replace it sooner or later. Probably won't have the same feeling as gmod did though, that shit's timeless.
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1e6fc8 No.16866392
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