b88b81 No.16861645
I'm kind of struggling to get the appeal here. Is it the fact you can pretend to make lots of money without any hassle or a bunch of bullshit?
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399f98 No.16861647
>>16861645
I can't imagine why any adult would like it…since they already do it. Maybe it's for brainwashing kids.
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8f9de5 No.16861672
>>16861647
Perhaps it's for those who think they chose the wrong career path.
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7ce97a No.16861673
Office jobs suck donkey dick and they feel completely unfulfilling. So people naturally want to see how vastly superior jobs like farming and truck driving are like. That's where these simulators come into play.
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b4dca6 No.16861678
>>16861672
Where's the Office Lady Harem simulator?
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399f98 No.16861679
>>16861673
Fork lifting isn't that much different than an office job. It's just rote tasks.
You can't simulate farming as a job per se. It's a whole lifestyle the moment you wake up to eat to sleep.
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9bf163 No.16861680
I kinda get truck sims as that’s almost meditative and doesn’t cost tons of gas to drive around, but forklift sims? They’re only fun if you’re fucking around instead of working.
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8f9de5 No.16861681
>>16861678
I have no idea. Ask the Japanese, perhaps?
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f910a0 No.16861683
>>16861680
I drive a forklift for a living and can confirm that it's actually pretty fun. I don't know if it's fun enough to want to simulate it, but then again, I like to play the UH-1H helicopter sim - a sim where you simply fly into and out of combat zones and have like one weapon.
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a0dcc1 No.16861822
>>16861645
The german side of me would play these just to get to play with expensive toys I have no business operating. To others, the ability to do things that would instantly get you fired has a certain appeal.
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57fa27 No.16861842
>>16861645
Well most people wont have to drive a cargo truck, fly a plane or operate a forklift unless that's their job so of course there will be an audience for it.
>>16861822 is also right about the expensive toys stuff, even more so if the game offers upgrade to do stuff more efficiently and rake bigger numbers.
I kinda wanted to play some but most of it looks like shovelware.
Any anons here with some recommendation list or something?
>>16861678
Seen a couple VNs with that premise and I can see some Josei shit with it
>>16861681
>Artist draws soft lewds of its own manga
What a mad lad.
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b86088 No.16861854
>>16861678
Where's the depressed office lady simulator?
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5251b7 No.16861858
I can't speak for other "games" but Euro Truck Simulator is basically a virtual zen garden and the epitome of comfy. I recommend everyone to try it.
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d47668 No.16861859
>>16861683
I've never actually used one but the people I knew who did loved getting to use them. It seems like the fun is using the machine itself rather than the work associated with it and that it wouldn't translate into a video game.
>a sim where you simply fly into and out of combat zones and have like one weapon.
Even that rescue sim makes more sense, since there's a potential challenge to it. Flight sims make sense in that regard.
>>16861842
>seen a couple VNs with that premise
Mind sharing with the class?
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7ce97a No.16861876
>>16861854
>women
>capable of getting depressed
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b7901c No.16861884
>>16861679
As someone who drove forklifts, mowers, and tractors but now works a desk job, there is truth to what >>16861673 is saying. Sure, if you are sitting in office you are away from elements and dirt. Trade-off is that you do not see any tangible results of your work. It is far more satisfying to see an empty warehouse of clear loads, than it is to send bunch of emails and type up reports.
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b83848 No.16861886
>>16861673
Phoenix Wright managed to make being a fucking attorney out of all things fun somehow.
Also Papers Please where you play as a customs guy FFS is also a thing which people enjoyed.
I'm sure if someone can do it right an office job simulator could be actually fun.
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b83848 No.16861890
Wait. You can actually do paperwork in SS13 and I saw that people can get really salty by getting forced to do paperwork and sometimes flip their shit and react in crazy ways, which is pretty funny.
I guess that game counts even though it covers a bunch of jobs really.
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d142ce No.16861894
>>16861886
Ace attorney is nothing like being an actual lawyer though
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5251b7 No.16861898
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d142ce No.16861899
>>16861898
Have you seen a real court case in it's entirety before?
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399f98 No.16861913
>>16861886
Ace Attorney has real gameplay (which all come down to puzzles or reading patterns) and not just rote actions. I guess you could say anything potentially becomes boring and rote "work" once you're used to it, but the difference with "fun" and work is fun is capable of introducing fresh patterns. Good games do this in droves. And those who say they have fun/exciting/adventurous jobs are probably getting the same dopamine hit too.
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a1294e No.16861916
Sometime it am nicing to pretended to do a job you cannot be doing
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f910a0 No.16863419
>>16861859
>It seems like the fun is using the machine itself rather than the work associated with it
Yes and no. After awhile the satisfaction of using the machine goes away and it becomes just another tool. What's fun in my case is that I work at a lumberyard, with a slight incline in most of the areas I'll be driving, which means that I need to be thinking about how I load what, and where, at what speed, with how much clearance, etc. It's a good exercise and I'd say at this point (I've been doing this for six years) the fun comes from the unexpected/unorthodox moves and reactions I need to make. If I was driving one of those gay little electric forklifts in a warehouse or something I'd probably kill myself though.
With all that said though I agree with you: I don't think it'd translate well to vidya. For one thing, you'd need four mushy hydraulic levers on your right, and for another, part of the fun is feeling the center of gravity move around as you lift and lower really heavy loads.
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969fd6 No.16864230
>>16861876
Why do you think they eat all that comfort food?
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000000 No.16864238
the largest demographic that plays these kinds of games are Germans, and it makes sense because working 24/7 is all they do, it's all they know how to do. so even when they're playing games, they're still working. the mindset has been hammered into them for generations at this point
>NatSoc Germany
<must work to build up German military might and reach our full potential as a people
>Divided Germany
<must work to prove to East/West Germany that we are stronger than them and our system works better
>United Germany
<must work to become economic superpower of Europe, become industry leader in fucking everything
the eternal kraut
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db6d31 No.16864280
>>16861645
There's a particular kind of usually German gamer that loves this shit. I admit that I have enjoyed soccer management games in the past and the original Theme Park game by Bullfrog kept me up late designing the water tube ride and roller coasters and bumping up the caffeine at the coffee shop and stuff.
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903139 No.16864281
>>16861876
>women
>capable of not being depressed
they're all mental
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db6d31 No.16864287
>>16864238
Germans also have some of the best working conditions in the world and, I think, they get 6 weeks paid vacation annually as well as universal healthcare. They do work hard usually but they don't work themselves to death, and they know how to relax with a lovely sim game.
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4e0e2a No.16864367
>>16861645
Ask the people that bought Postman SimulatorDeath Stranding, manipulating boring minutiae over and over must have some twisted appeal.
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dd47d0 No.16864401
>>16861645
its for people who want to go postal but dont have the balls to do it irl
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7bc70f No.16864427
>>16861886
Those games are puzzle games or VNs that are more or less successfully disguised as lawyering or paperwork games. Punch Out is a terrible boxing game but a pretty good puzzle game masquerading as a boxing game. Harvest Moon is a farming-themed dating sim/adventure game. There's a big difference between something seriously billing itself as a sim and a game with the flavor of lawyering or driving or whatever.
Nominally, the games in the OP are simulators. The game elements are secondary if they're present at all. A desk job simulator–not a VN disguised as a desk job game–would involve a lot of calling people to complain about things or to order things, filling out paperwork to document things you or your staff did, and going to meetings. I imagine the games in the OP try to appeal to the joy that some people get from sitting in a big truck's seat or playing with power equipment's controls, even if they don't get to do anything useful with it. There is no joy to sitting behind a desk waiting for Purchasing to call you back about why the internal web site for ordering isn't accepting the code for product X this week when it accepted it last week.
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005acf No.16864497
>>16861645
>I'm kind of struggling to get the appeal here.
I'm kind of struggling to understand why simulators are not fun for americans but shooting people in every game is.
t. German
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b07d65 No.16864503
>>16861645
You think those games are like jobs? Let me tell you about EVE online…
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f7781d No.16864527
>>16861854
>You will maybe tell your cute depressed OL wife if she wants dinner, a bath or yourself just to make her smile
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c88c81 No.16864542
>work sim
Real Germania hours.
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7daf2d No.16864545
I personally enjoy A LOT japanese train simulators
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5ec2a5 No.16864629
>>16864622
>get home from plowing your fields and wife
>feed your piggies, cows and chickens
>go inside your house
>it's late and dark, everyone else has already gone to sleep
>you flick on a desk lamp and boot up your computer
>look around to be sure your wife and none of your six children are around, going to the toilet or eating a late snack
>boot up Farming Simulator
>start plowing your virtual fields and buy virtual pigfeed
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aac3a9 No.16868503
>games i've never seen a black guy play
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9595e2 No.16869486
>>16861683
>>16861886
>Trade-off is that you do not see any tangible results of your work.
Exactly.
An office work simulator should be an Ouendan inspired rhythm game where you're put into a working day that progresses through phases like commute, morning work, lunch, etc. Different inputs would correspond to different actions like sending an email, taking a phone call, drinking coffee and talking to a co-worker which would change depending on what phase you're in.
At the end of each phase you're ranked and depending on your rank you see the company building growing bigger. S+ would have the boss congratulating you on a job well done.
The game should have different scenarios like having you as an intern for the easiest mode and you being the CEO during a recession for DMD. If you get a S+ in CEO mode, instead of your boss it would be your board members, your workers and their families cheering you on.
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0b99f1 No.16869500
All krauts born after 1945 do is drink beer, pay israel and work in factory. They are autistic. They buy bad simulator games.
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80a3af No.16869546
>>16861854
Man, that picture is depressing.
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14b43e No.16870545
Euro Truck Simulator 2 is therapeutic. I use it to process things that are going on in my life, listen to podcasts/lectures, that kind of thing. Besides being able to fall into a trance for upwards of two hours, it's nice to build up a workforce under you so strong that you can make €400,000 just by teleporting between your garages.
Lately I've been exploring the various European cities looking for new truckers to hire. I'm able to take on new garages, trucks, and employees constantly and I think I've only discovered half of the recruiting centers in the continent. There's not much like seeing your fellow drivers bring in €30k+ jobs after you've spent so long training them.
Pic related, just getting started in the world of quick jobs that barely pay anything.
Another one I like is Car Mechanic Simulator, but that's mainly because I like to take things apart and put them back together. The game has made me realize I'd be toast as an actual mechanic, and that I should never buy used cars.
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