dcb943 No.16856377[Last 50 Posts]
when they can't even make a good game or a game that works? Try actually making games that don't suck, or aren't full of game-breaking bugs, and then maybe you can have your unions.
Game devs are some of the most entitled people on the planet.
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63fb7f No.16856380
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1e3f4c No.16856401
Remember that time voice actors wanted stunt performance hours because mocap suits?
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3514ab No.16856406
>>16856380
That image is about as boomer as it gets.
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9bf1b9 No.16856408
>>16856377
>when they can't even make a good game or a game that works?
Because there is nobody west of vistula river who can even impart programming knowledge and only dregs, autists and failures go into entertainment-related jobs
good translators go into legal, get paid enough to build 3 story homes and work from home, faggot losers go into "localizing video games" and giving you
>daddy gets his alternative facts from the best fake news sources
>I love jelly-filled donuts
Good programmers go to become server administrators, work once a month and get a fat paycheck while getting even more money from any other project on the side, autists were displaced by faggot losers with entitlement issues.
They can't optimize, they can't make games fun, they can't innovate nor maintain technological features from two decades ago.
The serb who made Underrail is an exception I guess.
it's basically a feedback loop of shit, trash teachers impart dogshit knowledge that faggots use to get into lowest paying jobs not out of passion for games like Carmacks and the like but because everything beyond that is gated away.
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e8b2ce No.16856412
>>16856406
>only boomers dislike millennials
fuck off millennial
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63fb7f No.16856414
>>16856406
I'm a Millennial and I hate others in my Generation for this behavior.
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000000 No.16856415
>>16856406
It's also mostly right.
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6de2a2 No.16856438
>>16856406
Still true enough.
t. Zyklon
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04e21a No.16856455
>>16856377
The game development industry is probably the single worst work environment you can get into as a programmer. Working as a developer on a big budget video game you can expect: long hours,overly tight deadlines, endless mandatory unpaid overtime for weeks or even months at a time, incompetent management, and at the end of it all when the product is released you'll probably get fired. At the end of the day, this means that only people who are really dedicated to (or obsessed with) making video games go into and stay in the industry. With a union you can begin to improve that work environment, and make it more attractive to other, better programmers. And because the industry is less of a grind, people might stick around instead of working in crunch two years, getting fired after the game ships, and abandoning the industry entirely.
Not that a better work environment will actually make games better. 99 times out of 100 a game sucks because management sucks and has no idea what fun is, and games are usually buggy because they are rushed out the door by the publishing company in half broken states before the developers can finish QA.
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9bf1b9 No.16856462
>>16856455
>endless mandatory unpaid overtime for weeks or even months at a time, incompetent management, and at the end of it all when the product is released you'll probably get fired
They should've studied harder to not be replacable by pajeets.
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04e21a No.16856471
>>16856462
Its a chicken and egg type scenario.
>Working environment is shit
>Good developers go into other fields
>Shit developers who are 'passionate!' flood the industry
>Because they are shit developers they can be replaced by shit 3rd world developers who accept worse conditions
>repeat
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3514ab No.16856475
>>16856412
Never said that. Every statement made is very similar to how boomers whine. That is without any context to the sorry state of the world. The post makes no mention on how the majory of milliniels were raised by television. Doesn't mention millenials didn't invent the participation trophy. Doesn't mention the failing economy. It's nothing but whining. The last line being the funnies because it implies that things would be worse that what they are now. Boomers unironically believe that the government wants them gone because they are what's holding America together even though they overwhelmingly pro-israel and so much awful shit has gone on under their watch including a presidental assassination and the worse terrorist attack in human history.
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0798c1 No.16856483
>>16856406
Yeah, it's typically non-whites who act like that and boomers think race isn't real and thus blame non-white millennial behavior on all millennials.
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63fb7f No.16856487
>>16856475
Yea Boomers and Gen X are at fault but it doesn't excuse the faults of Millennials at all, you can blame others for only so long before you have to actually own up for your fuck ups. I say this as a millennial myself.
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63fb7f No.16856490
>>16856483
>it's typically non-whites who act like that
Bull fucking shit! There are plenty of whites who act like this.
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3514ab No.16856492
>>16856487
I agree. I'm just saying that image reads like a boomer wrote it. I say this having been around and spoken to plenty of them for long periods of time. I've had a boomer bitch at me about how lazy kids are and how they just don't want to work, only to later talk about hiring illegals because they are cheap. He then backpedals and says "mexicans do the jobs that americans don't want to do" when called out. That post sounds a lot like him.
Sage because unrelated blogshit.
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de129a No.16856497
>>16856475
Gee i wonder why the post about the flaws of Millennials doesn't whine about Baby Boomers, clearly its pro-Boomer.
Only Boomers think a world that is pushing towards total equality; something even boomers aren't stupid enough to universally want will be worse.
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0798c1 No.16856499
>>16856490
A lot less, of the whites I know around my age only one thinks like that.
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385275 No.16856510
>>16856455
>With a union you can begin to improve that work environment, and make it more attractive to other, better programmers.
Everything that unions have done IN ALL OF HISTORY says otherwise:
>Talk about how your going to improve working conditions
<Attack people not supporting the union
<Kidnap company employees
<Bomb buildings
<Union leaders, all the while, receive funding from Communist countries
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3514ab No.16856536
>>16856497
Never said that it should "whine about baby boomers". I never said that it was pro-boomer either. Is English your second language?
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bb1512 No.16856540
>>16856406
I'm 20 years old and I truly recognize that my generation is a generation of total subhumans. You too, are a subhuman. I also recognize that me being 20 makes me a newfag by default, but I do my best hiding it
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04e21a No.16856543
>>16856510
I don't know the situation in the USA, maybe that's true for you guys, but in my country our unions have been responsible for stuff like:
>higher minimum wage
>more annual leave days
>guaranteed sick leave
>protection from unfair dismissal
>higher pay for working outside normal business hours
>safer work environments and protections if you get injured on the job
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de129a No.16856549
>>16856536
Your post was clearly pushing a lack of mention being the reason it seemed Boomerish.
Only a total autist would try to slam in those reasons while talking about Millennials; it would wreck the tone of the post.
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99500f No.16856550
People who are asking for unions don't even know why a union works. They just think it sounds professional to have one. If there is no leverage on your side, having a union is detrimental to your continued employment. The employer can just go to the cheaper option if you are easily replaceable. There are many bright-eyed, delusional up-and-coming game developer types coming out of college that can take their place. You also built in the mentality of necessary crunch and also courting China because they wanted that sweet communist money. The idea might sound good on paper but the gaming industry itself has made sure that a viable union will never work in this decade or ever unless there is some drastic changes made.
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e1ae43 No.16856552
>>16856462
>They should've studied harder to not be replacable by pajeets.
eat shit and die you fucking boomer kike
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bb1512 No.16856559
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3514ab No.16856571
>>16856549
>it would wreck the tone of the post.
Of course it would, because it's just whining. Saying that you can't talking about a subject without mentioning the context surrounding it is worse than autistic, it's retarded.
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de129a No.16856581
>>16856571
The post is about their mentality not their history.
And yes, it would wreck the post to whine about boomers and attempt to levy all the blame to them.
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385275 No.16856584
>>16856543
>I don't know the situation in the USA, maybe that's true for you guys
It's been true since the concept started in the late 1800s here in the states.
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000000 No.16856585
>>16856377
Never listen to slaves. Exploit them, leech them, and replace them with the next batch of slaves.
>>16856380
>>16856406
>muh they will be in charge
Their very nature makes it impossible for them to be in charge. They will forever fail at everything that they try, while competent people will simply move away everything (market, customer base, even currency and economical systems) from them. Merit, efficiency and capital are always movable, and always free from the whinny incompetent retards. If the retards """take control""" of anything, merit, efficiency and capital will simply go somewhere else, and those retards "in control" will keep losing everything. Their very nature is to fail forever.
>>16856455
Unions are communism. They will always make everything worse than it is, and will always fail in the end.
>>16856543
Apply those benefits to the incompetent, the devoid of merit and the whinny bitches and diversity hires. See your company go bankrupt.
Unions are cancer.
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0798c1 No.16856592
>>16856543
Unions have helped with some of those in the US, but for the past few decades they've shifted priorities towards progressivism which has led to a lot of hatred and declined in membership. To protect unions it's illegal in some states to work unless you join a union for certain jobs.
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6250f6 No.16856604
>>16856543
Unions helped with all that stuff back when even the most menial white-collar workers were literally a social class above blue-collar workers and thereby had privileges that the blue-collar ones didn't. They persisted in order to nominally ensure those protections didn't go away, but then more trades decided to do it in order to get new and different protections. Around the time of the World Wars some of them got infiltrated by organized crime, and that's where some of the we'll-break-your-legs-if-you-move-that-table-yourself scare tactic stuff came from. Nowadays they're kinda like big cancerous lumps, although they do protect the benefits (earned or not) that certain trades have. Like most things, they're not all good and not all bad.
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3514ab No.16856613
>>16856581
>And yes, it would wreck the post to whine about boomers and attempt to levy all the blame to them.
I never said it should do any of this. Something as simple as "they were raised by television" would add context. If that implicates boomers, I don't care. You seem to be hell bent on twisting my words to sound like I want a specifically anti-boomer post. I didn't even deny most of what was stated.
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de129a No.16856621
>>16856613
Read your original post you dunce. Perhaps you didn't even check for how it came off.
It comes off as you wanting it to be about a bunch of crap Boomers did instead.
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b9142a No.16856627
>>16856406
That statement is about as irrelevant as it gets.
Trying to reduce valid points by referring to the supposed age of the author just marks the speaker out as a fucking neophyte. You have nothing to say and so shit noise like 'ok boomer' comes out and you look like an ignorant nigger.
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de129a No.16856632
>>16856621
Well i meant the second post, perhaps i should check my own posts a bit more.
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3514ab No.16856638
>>16856621
My original post just says "that's about as boomer as it gets." I'm done entertaining you. Your wrangler shouldn't allow you on the internet anyway.
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de129a No.16856648
>>16856638
No your post was "This is about as boomer as it gets BECAUSE he didn't mention a bunch of shit.
>The post makes no mention on how the majory of milliniels were raised by television. Doesn't mention millenials didn't invent the participation trophy. Doesn't mention the failing economy.
> The last line being the funnies because it implies that things would be worse that what they are now. Boomers unironically believe that the government wants them gone because they are what's holding America together even though they overwhelmingly pro-israel and so much awful shit has gone on under their watch including a presidental assassination and the worse terrorist attack in human history.
All of this in regards to a post about millenials. No clearly it doesn't come off as a tard wanting a post about millenials to be about boomers instead.
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04e21a No.16856657
>>16856592
>To protect unions it's illegal in some states to work unless you join a union for certain jobs.
That's so bizarre to me. Why would your government implement pro-union legislation like that? Is there some qualification or certification that you can only get through the union? That sounds really weird, given how pro-corporate the US government is.
>>16856585
>Apply those benefits to the incompetent, the devoid of merit and the whinny bitches and diversity hires. See your company go bankrupt.
When the working environment is better there is more competition for employment, leading to better hires; lots of studies have shown that better working condition lead to better workers.
Incompetence is still a fireable offence.
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63fb7f No.16856665
>>16856657
>Incompetence is still a fireable offence.
HAHAHAHA! Oh no it isn't Anon.
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0798c1 No.16856666
>>16856657
>Why would your government implement pro-union legislation like that?
Like I said
>for the past few decades they've shifted priorities towards progressivism
Specifically unions donate lots of money to democrats so when those democrats get into office they work to help the unions.
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04e21a No.16856695
>>16856665
Yes it is. A coworker of mine got fired for poor performance only a month ago. If you can't do your job you get fired. I have seen this happen many times, and my country has all those protections I listed. The only caveat is that you have to jump through a hoop to fire somebody that has been working for you longer than 6 months. But the process is relatively simple.
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da6619 No.16856702
>>16856695
>Yes it is. A coworker of mine got fired for poor performance only a month ago.
Your co-worker was white, wasn't he?
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04e21a No.16856720
>>16856702
She was white, and overweight, and always on her phone. We are supposed to process so many accounts per hour, and she was consistently underperforming in her KPIs. She got warned that she needed to pick up her act, and then she spent her time complaining about the warning then doing work, and then she got fired.
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9a5d8b No.16856742
>>16856657
>When the working environment is better there is more competition for employment, leading to better hires
Except if you hire a shit employee you can't fire them because the union won't let you so then all your employees become shit because they see that they can't be fired and now it takes years to do anything because all your workers only work for an hour a day and dick around for the next seven hours.
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1e3f4c No.16856754
>>16856742
>Be a Walmart
>One guy that usually helps on the salesfloor or works carts frequently disappears for 2, 3, 4 hours at a time during his shift and ignores pages
>He's been setting up on top of one of the backroom coolers and watching videos on his tablet
>He's been written up over 7 times in the last year
>He's hit a customer's car with the cart collector
>He's smashed into the cart receiving door with the cart collector, damaging it at least twice
It's amazing he still has a job. I am very tempted to complain to ethics, but management has said it's a process
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dcb943 No.16856866
unions should only exist for dangerous jobs like oil, construction, manufacturing
no one dies in game development
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6250f6 No.16856905
>>16856720
Falling under your Bullshit Numbers is probably the most reliable way to get fired anywhere.
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614ae8 No.16856914
>>16856377
They don't, it's usually PR and HR people pushing for it. It seems like all the big loud voices hate us, but the vast majority either don't give a shit or are on here shitposting themselves. but if you're in the industry you have to keep kayfabe. That's all there is to it.
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4e769f No.16857080
You do realize that these games are buggy and shit not from the devs but them being rushed out? It's the bosses that decided to have them make cookie cutter copy and past bullshit. (Here's another thing, you usually have higher quality work from people when they're having to do massive crunch time.)
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8cfdd6 No.16857105
>>16856866
Software development (games included) needs something to keep suits from bringing in pajeets to shit all over the code and drive down compensation. Unions should do things like that, but don't anymore, and a union formed today would be significantly more pozzed than older unions.
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7cf6b0 No.16857108
>>16856455
Tell me again, why do developers not band together, pool their capital, and form their own companies in states/provinces/regions that are cheaper to live in instead? Why must it be unions every time? What is stopping them from doing this? We have a few amateurs making their own games here and elsewhere, on their own, and they manage. Banished was made by 1-2 people.
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5700fa No.16857114
>>16857108
>why do developers not band together, pool their capital, and form their own companies in states/provinces/regions that are cheaper to live in instead?
Because that would require actual risk and effort and follow-through, and a whole lot of failure and learning along the way. Despite how much people complain about how terrible things are, for most, it's "all that they know" so they don't want to tackle the unknown challenge of making their own company, or the pain that they're suffering doesn't "hurt" enough yet.
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154dec No.16857285
>>16857108
>Tell me again, why do developers not band together, pool their capital
Simple most indies are selfish pricks who trip each other up at conventions and screw each other out of sales and publicity. If you've actually done this type of work before you'd know how fucking horrible and ruthless some of these pricks are, which is why you'd never want to be business partners with them.
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dcb943 No.16857330
>>16856408
so if we give game devs unions, they are going to suddenly just start creating good games that don't suck ass?
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69facf No.16857333
>>16857330
They're gonna take you back to the past.
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f521cf No.16857370
>>16857108
>Tell me again, why do developers not band together, pool their capital, and form their own companies
The developers of Dead Cells are a co-op. I respect them for doing that instead of REEEEing for unions thus fucking it up for everyone else.
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000000 No.16857401
>>16857108
>why do developers not band together, pool their capital, and form their own companies
That happens already, there's plenty of indie studios with less than five people in them.
>Why must it be unions every time?
Because they're a long term solution that worked out incredibly well in Europe, so there's plenty of people wanting to replicate that success.
Personally, I think they won't work as well in America, but it would be nice to be proven wrong.
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ae73b9 No.16857679
>>16856550
But then why is it Hollywood and the filmmaking industry has such a heavily unionized workforce? What makes them different from Vidya? (Besides the programming part I guess.)
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69facf No.16857694
>>16857679
I don't claim to be an actor but I assume that if you, as a fledgling "nobody" who wants to make it big in the industry, don't bend over backwards to producers and whatnot you won't even make it through the front door.
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33fe34 No.16857717
>>16856866
>no one dies in game development
Ever been in crunch?
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adb113 No.16857723
>>16857717
Blizzard and EA treating their employees like shit doesn't represent the entire industry.
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63fb7f No.16857724
>>16856695
I don't know where you live but way too many people get away with shit in the workplace and don't get kicked where people get kicked for way fucking less.
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63fb7f No.16857729
>>16857723
>Blizzard and EA treating their employees like shit doesn't represent the entire industry.
This is most devs not just them it's an industry wide problem .
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c274d2 No.16857903
>>16856377
Your ignorance is severe.
The reason games are full of bugs is because the dev studios get fucked over by publishers and not allowed the time and resources they need to fix their shit.
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63fb7f No.16857911
>>16857903
>The reason games are full of bugs is because the dev studios get fucked over by publishers and not allowed the time and resources they need to fix their shit.
Many devs are like what the OP said stop trying to downplay that cancerous mentality.
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dcb943 No.16857926
game devs are literal retards. They can't seem to figure out a balance between casual, good gameplay AND a very good, compelling story.
Surely it can't be that hard to figure out, with multi-million dollar budgets.
Game devs are the stupidest fucking people on earth and i hope they are driven into poverty and suicide. I want to see them suffer in agony.
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f50968 No.16857983
Sure, why not. They'll probably need the extra healthcare benefits soon as their Commie superbug starts spreading through their incestuous Califailure cliques.
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dcb943 No.16858023
>>16857983
i can't wait for it to all burn
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000000 No.16858076
>>16856657
>Incompetence is still a fireable offence
It isn't. What is written in a contract or in the law isn't what is put into practice or applied in real life. Incompetence is being rewarded in most cases, until the company goes bankrupt. We also have cases like Numale Sky and it's devs lies and false advertising, resulting in a complete shitty game. The fact that there are no unions in the industry is one of the reasons that allowed consumers to push back the failed studio and put them in their place. A unionized industry would have protected those failed devs.
>lots of studies have shown
Those studies are lies. Plain and simple. The more the employees are secured, the more unions demand, to the point that unreasonable and impossible demands are forced upon the industry, becoming a "us vs them" situation that stagnates everything.
You are also forgetting the main point: the industry is pozzed. Unions that would (utopically) work as intended would be protecting leftards. That alone is reason to never allow unions in this industry.
>>16857903
Both devs and publishers are shit in this industry.
>>16857926
This.
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f50968 No.16858185
>>16858076
Unions are only as good as their leadership, and just like politics, it's exceedingly difficult to find good leadership that can balance the concerns of their members with the concerns of the company. What good is a union, after all, and your duty to the membership - if you drive the company into bankruptcy or push them out of the country? Admittedly, Union leadership isn't quite as corrupt as general politics - considering the small scale of many union shops, but that's about as useful as saying that your local level governments will generally be less corrupt than beltway politicians, and regardless their strike insurance still keeps them tethered to the International.
That, and there's a goddamned world of difference between the mindsets of a California software developer and that of a blue-collar factory schlub in Michigan… and that's going to radically change how things are handled at the bargaining table.
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6859e8 No.16858196
>>16856377
>>16856380
>>16856406
>Too lazy to raise your kids properly
>Let marxists do it instead
<WHY ARE THESE KIDS MARXIST WEAKLINGS
It's a real mystery.
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6859e8 No.16858204
>>16858203
>when video games are the media equivalent of potato chips
Why are you playing such shitty games?
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6859e8 No.16858212
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63fb7f No.16858235
>>16858203
>>16858206
Such pretentiousness.
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0d7bc4 No.16858263
>>16856866
>no one dies in game development
Didn't two people die making Panzer Dragon Saga?
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dcb943 No.16858797
>>16858263
fuck em, game devs are the scum of the earth and i take joy when they commit suicide
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2cfcb8 No.16858802
>>16858206
>reading books is gay because I'm not getting mad gains from it
oh you
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cdfeb7 No.16858806
Devs used to be well paid and games in the past reflected that. Devs today work almost for free and live in their cars and so nearly all the games being mafr today are half assed and horrible. Any questions.
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cdfeb7 No.16858807
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b5e3b1 No.16858815
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>>16858206
>I have yet to play a video game that gives me physical benefits
Got you covered.
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3170b6 No.16858822
>>16858802
>not benchpressing your entire library daily
Wow dude it's like don't want to be a sexual tyrannosaur, just like me.
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875427 No.16858836
>>16856905
It's a selective trap, really. Raise performance metrics to levels beyond that which only system-gamers can achieve, but don't write anybody up or terminate them until the corporation demands sacrifices.
When I worked for AT&T, incompetent people almost never seemed to get fired, because they would always pull the racism card, even when all of the people approving their termination were also diversity hires. A lot of competent white men always seemed to be on the chopping block, now that I think about it.
White male supervisor complained that a black female supervisor was promoted immediately before she took maternity leave, requiring him to do both his own work, and her own. He was fired, and another supervisor had to do all three of theirs, being warned not to complain.
White male technical support agent was fired for reporting a company security breach found on the clearnet.
White male customer service agent was fired for taking family medical leave to care for his ailing mother, due to a fuckup by HR filing his leave incorrectly.
White male customer service hire was fired for schedule adherence, due to him being DEPLOYED ON ACTIVE DUTY IN TRASHCANISTAN. The company hired him back when he made noise about reporting them for breaking fucking federal law, but everyone told him to stick it to the company. I don't know if anything else came of it.
White male supervisor was fired for being terse with a black female subordinate who had no apparent work ethic (no, really), who was often found to be taking 20 minute breaks (10 minutes was the allotted time for one break) and such. She got upset and complained to HR, he was walked out in the same afternoon.
Black male business support agent was fired for regularly "double tapping", a method by which one repositions one's self in the call queue by placing their phone in an outbound call mode, then back into incoming call availability. This moves one's place in the call queue to the bottom.
MEANWHILE:
Mystery meat female manager argued with, and threatened to fire a white male technical case worker over mathematics. Female manager insisted that the value of each incoming call for the center was fixed at 0.5%, and could not understand that with a random number of inbound calls each day, such a value would change by the literal minute. She also threatened me, for backing him up with example math (one call out of say, 2400 calls in a day, cannot be one half percent of the total number of calls, and this value would only be accurate on a day in which 200 calls were received, which would be extremely unlikely due to the nature of the center).
But then, call centers are soul poison that erodes and kills everyone who works in them, IF, mind you, those people have intelligence and/or strong work ethic. The companies always set people up to fail, exploit the hardest workers, and eternally shift metrics to keep performance bonuses just out of reach.
"Oh, you got a low score on this call, so your metrics aren't enough to get a bonus."
"But that call wasn't mine, it was with a representative in the Philippines, with a different employee ID, and a completely dissimilar name!"
"Oh, we'll remove that call from your score."
"Well now that my score is well above the minimum for a bonus, can I have my bonus now?"
"No, because your score was below the limit when bonuses were being paid out."
This kind of bullshit was common, and they only seemed to do it to people who wouldn't stab the people pulling this shit.
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26eb3b No.16858851
Given shitty things like BioWare's employee mills, I understand why they'd want them at least.
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88dfee No.16858853
>>16858815
Really makes ya think…
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6859e8 No.16858949
>>16858851
This pretty common knowledge. You hear about shit like Konami having cameras in every single corner of their office, devs getting fired when a project is released so the earnings are slightly better and the infamous crunch time where devs essentially live in their office for 2 weeks-months. The only reason no one on here knows about it is because this entire site is pretty much entirely Qtards as seen by how they unironically defend the worst generation in history.
Unions would make it so the publishers/studios couldn't pull their shit but ultimate it wouldn't improve the situation at all. The only thing that could fix this is if the gigantic AAA studios that have completely dominated the market for the last 30 years get broken up. Sadly it just looks like things are getting further consolidated.
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6e8ec4 No.16858968
>>16858949
>The only thing that could fix this is if the gigantic AAA studios that have completely dominated the market for the last 30 years get broken up. Sadly it just looks like things are getting further consolidated.
Not even Google can be broken up apparently. The likes of EA are chumps in comparison. It's never gonna happen.
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867e4f No.16858971
Honestly, let them unionize. It tends to destroy bigger businesses like EA and Ubisoft while smaller devs don't typically feel the need for unions.
Never got the hate for unions honestly. If you don't want unions treat your employees right, if you need them then fuck you, you're a major corporation and you deserve it.
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000000 No.16858985
>>16858185
>Unions are only as good as their leadership
>it's exceedingly difficult to find good leadership
Therefore, unions are not worth the risk.
>>16858968
It is already happening. Google is being broken up, and many formerly "giant" companies are fading away. Nothing is too big to fall.
>>16858263
Anyone that is retarded enough to work to death for anyone or to not abandon a job that can turn someone into a suicidal wreck deserves to die.
>>16858806
>Any questions
Yes: Why should anyone care about slaves' well being? If they can't deliver what we want, they are worthless and don't deserve to be treated as human beings, but instead, be replaced by the next batch of slaves. Their living and working conditions are of no concern. They are cogs in the machine. Not people.
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6e8ec4 No.16858987
>>16858985
>It is already happening. Google is being broken up, and many formerly "giant" companies are fading away. Nothing is too big to fall.
It is? I appreciate the optimism, but I have no clue what you're talking about. It's only gotten worse… at least in my dimension.
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000000 No.16860181
>>16858987
It is. Go inform yourself better. Mainstream media isn't a source of information. Insider's leaks are.
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5700fa No.16860206
>>16858985
>Why should anyone care about slaves' well being?
Despite popular belief, people actually perform better if they feel positive about whoever/whatever it is that they are working for, that their work is being appreciated, that their contribution is meaningful, and that all the praise that they are receiving IS NOT flattery.
>>16858836
Don't forget the fact that they constantly hound people who follow the rules for breaking the rules, meanwhile anyone and everyone else even boasts about never following the rules and having worked there for several years. The moment I decided to say, "To Hell with it", my ass was out the door even despite the fact that I was still following 'the rules'. And, that's on top of the fact that the people making the rules don't understand how computers work. "The rules" state that your computer is suppose to go into sleep mode after 15 minutes of inactivity for "security reason". Even though we're using Windows 10 and Chrome, which are spyware and breaks these said rules by default, but whatever.
This causes a problem because the time sheet program doesn't log the correct time when the computer is asleep.
I got hounded about this and I explained to them that the problem is their software because making any changes would break the rules that they had outlined us to follow.
Working as a call center rep was literally the worst job I had ever had. Not to mention the fact that nearly all the people there were straight-up blobs bitching about how "terrible" their life is.
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84f567 No.16860318
>>16860206
>Despite popular belief, people actually perform better
That's correct, but it only applies to employees and not slaves. Slaves have no legal rights, no recourse for abuse, and are fully expected to be worked to death and then replaced like worn out tools because that is exactly what they are.
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7875cb No.16860324
>>16856377
I know it sucks getting old, grandpa, but the world is changing and you won't be around to suffer it anymore, so just let it go.
>muh unions r bad
I suppose you'd rather work for a private company for 25 years without job security, a pension, a good insurance plan, benefits like paid time off, and various other improvements to your work environment, just so you can wither away as an old man because you squandered your money on dumb shit for your wive and your children's failed ventures? I suppose you like the idea of your boss' boss having you by the balls?
That's pretty gay.
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3170b6 No.16860327
>>16860318
That's correct, but it only applies to the chosen and not goyim. Goyim have no divine rights, no recourse for abuse, and are fully expected to be milked for their money and worked to death and then replaced like worn out tools because that is exactly what they are.
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84f567 No.16860336
>>16860327
<Implying any shitskin is worth as much as a White man.
Pretending to be retarded is still being retarded anon, and ironically worshiping the kike goddess Equality is faggotry. I'm sure your nigger fetishism seems perfectly natural to you, but people with jobs know that apes aren't worth a damn in any work force, nor are pajeets, taco-niggers, and prairie-niggers.
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69649b No.16862552
>>16860324
>muh unions r bad
That's because the way burgers unions work is and has always been bad, they almost treat it like a fucking caste system.
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1a3c43 No.16864390
>>16856380
except their overlords are in charge, it's just that they don't care.
and meritocracy died long ago, else you wouldn't see kikes everywhere, whose sole skill is corruption.
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63fb7f No.16864409
>>16862552
>burgers unions work
No most Unions are fucking cancer.
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