b3d789 No.16849774[Last 50 Posts]
Why is modern art design so cancerous and generic?
Was every art designer killed and replaced by chinks?
From Japan to the JewSA, all I see is low effort cancer with no cohesion, it's just minimalism, round edges, clashing art styles and a complete lack of effort and detail.
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fe95b7 No.16849775
God I hate the remake's art so fucking much.
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1a1286 No.16849780
>>16849775
It's like there's barely anything iconic anymore, it's either a colorful mix of clashing art styles and designs or the same shit we've seen before.
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5c2d35 No.16849784
>>16849780
Sure are a lot of shrinking busts between the two versions.
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9191a9 No.16849790
Urushibara is overrated nigger.
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fe95b7 No.16849792
>>16849780
They hired someone who has some of the most dull art I've seen.
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97ab64 No.16849793
>Adol in Ys pre seven
Armored adventurer, not full plate but enough to cover your vitals
>Adol in Ys post seven
Leather fashion model
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2d005e No.16849797
>>16849774
>JewSA
As much as I bash WoW and everyone hates Blizzard now, I wouldn't bash their art at least.
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a81ca0 No.16849800
>>16849774
<Here are some better images.
>Why is modern art design so cancerous and generic?
Because it's cheaper and less time consuming.
>Was every art designer killed and replaced by chinks?
Gooks, actually, and some companies are exporting more and more work to Korea and China (Which is why several anime series have been put on hold)
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2d005e No.16849807
>>16849800
>Gooks, actually
Finally, someone with enough sense to differentiate.
I'm getting tired of being bundled with puppy eaters.
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516f67 No.16849808
Couldn't tell you. Modern character design is generally lazy, unfocused and way, way overdesigned at the same time. Just a garish mismatch of colors, patterns and garments.
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a81ca0 No.16849810
>>16849807
>I'm getting tired of being bundled with puppy eaters.
<Anon implies that he's a gook
What does this translate too: 여성가족부
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2d005e No.16849813
>>16849810
Don't know. And I'm implying the opposite. It's become too much of a lazy catchall for anything not Chink or Jap. So good on you.
But yes, half of the credits I see now seem to be Korean.
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e964a0 No.16849817
Just make your own art lmao
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a81ca0 No.16849820
>>16849817
Why don't you show us your drawing skills with the oekaki applet?
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45f4a4 No.16849967
>>16849774
>Why is modern art design so cancerous and generic?
Appealing to the lowest common denominator, artists dont have to improve much their skills in order to obtain fame in the immediate moment.
>>16849790
>Urushibara is overrated nigger.
His art is good and quite distinguishable, but he hasnt done much in recent years besides some illustrations here and there
>>16849792
>They hired someone who has some of the most dull art I've seen.
Nagi Ryou was pretty good for his contribution in Ar Tonelico back on PS2 but he shouldnt be hired on remakes of old vidya, especially from artists works that obliterate him in terms of skill.
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b3d789 No.16850001
>>16849797
Blizzard was never good and they ripped off every single on of their popular franchises aside from Diablo not even made by them, that was Condor Games/Blizzard North from fucking Warhammer and Warhammer 40K.
Blizzard has always been shit and I've always hated both their games and art design, they pandered to Asia and pretty much created games as a service model.
Blizzard has always been California trash marketed towards retards and their fanbase (you included) reflects that.
>>16849808
>Overdesigned
That's what pisses me off the most
It's not just art design, but writing as well, they add tons of clutter and useless shit and in the end have too much going on to execute anything well.
>>16849967
Why can't they fucking shade, holy fuck, not even the hair casts a shadow, it's like they're in a perpetual void
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bb60f6 No.16850007
80s/90s anime aesthetic is the best, with that early PC dithering. Fucking gets my dick hard.
Fuck this generic Korean shit though, it can go to hell.
>>16849808
>Modern character design is generally lazy, unfocused and way, way overdesigned at the same time.
Sounds like Toriyama's art TBH.
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b3d789 No.16850014
>>16849800
>>16849807
That makes more sense
I mean, neither Manga or even Doujins look this bad.
>>16850007
>Sounds like Toriyama's art
Post Dragonball GT maybe
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167fa5 No.16850015
>>16849808
>>16850001
>Overdesigned
Boy have I got some stuff for you.
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167fa5 No.16850019
>>16850015
Fucking hell 8chan! Let me post the best fucking example.
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bb60f6 No.16850022
>>16850014
Toriyama's designs have been copy/paste on a level that would make Bum Tickley blush for over two decades. He has a distinct style and some decent designs but he hasn't evolved for shit he just keeps putting out the same mish-mash of the same components over and over and over
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1b8a47 No.16850032
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167fa5 No.16850045
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1b8a47 No.16850054
>>16850045
What is with Japanese devs and fucking up remakes these days?
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8584ed No.16850076
>>16850054
New shit is awful as well
Remakes look uncanny because you compare it to the older work and realize just how bad modern stuff is in comparison.
They should really start hiring more Eromanga artists, Raita was half the reason people liked Valkyra Chronicles.
>>16850015
You can blame WOWshit and and Jewbisoft for that, post 3DO Migh&Magic is a husk built on the sweat of underpaid Slav sweatshop workers.
The others are bad, but the Magician last one is pure cancer, he looks like a Steampunk Mamluk rather than a Magician
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8584ed No.16850080
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
It's like everyone is doing precisely what this guyis saying for the last 7 years or so.
It's gotten to a point where settings don't even look like what they're supposed to be displaying.
The last 2 Battleshit games are a good example
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fe95b7 No.16850090
>>16850076
The Halo example isn't really that bad as they both look pretty much the same.
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45f4a4 No.16850103
>>16850001
>Why can't they fucking shade, holy fuck, not even the hair casts a shadow, it's like they're in a perpetual void
Not just that but
>huge pauldrons gone
>some of the silly design quirks like the wide halo of Lushiris or the eyebrows & huge hands of Bernhardt also gone
>male characters are nowhere as imposing in body size as they used to be vs the remake
>>16850022
Toriyama's art is at least consistent regardless of personal feelings to it
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acdae8 No.16850119
>>16850103
EVERY game or anime with wide capes and pauldrons lost them or toned them way the hell down. It's like "80s hair" I guess, in that it's a design characteristic that instantly makes average people think your crap looks outdated. Spergs, I guess, would complain too loudly that the pauldrons didn't do anything and the capes would just get in the way. But we still have armor that doesn't do anything and ridiculous unrealistic weapon and clothes designs. I don't get it. It's fantasy. I don't necessarily want realism or even common sense.
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66f601 No.16850144
>>16850103
Toriyama suffers from not only sameface syndrome, he also has sameclothes sickness. His style also never really evolved - take Magus from Chrono Trigger for example, he's pretty much just a Piccolo recolor, this time with hair. He then created Hit with very similar design elements, it's like he literally can't do anything else. However this familiarity of his art is admittedly kind of comfy.
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8584ed No.16850153
>>16850090
Are you blind?
Loot at the patterns, the rust and scratches, the lighting, nonsensical patterns on the gloves.
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d2ffc8 No.16850512
>>16850131
>Stupid complain honestly since armors have always had silly shit to make them look cooler in real life so it makes sense that huge pauldrons can just because "looks cool".
There's still a point where too much is too much. I wouldn't say Langrisser hit it though. There's "80s fantasy" and then there's this.
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30e17d No.16850677
>>16850032
Aren't girls with short hair just men?
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fb817d No.16850719
>>16850144
>However this familiarity of his art is admittedly kind of comfy.
Admittedly his work isn't too different but its clear enough to see the difference in character which is enough. I believe that a lot of kids myself included were very much inspired to play Dragon Quest/Chrono Trigger purely because of Toriyama's art style. I wouldn't call it sameclothes sickness because you can clearly see the distinction in most other characters like Ayla/Marle/Lucca/Chrono. Hell, frog doesn't look anything like the regular beastmen he draws. Regardless, for some reason that eludes me, when I play dragon quest/chrono trigger I disassociate it with dragon ball which is whats important at the end of the day
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58bb5b No.16850722
How long before CalArts creeps in
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c417ce No.16850765
>>16850722
Calarts won't be adapted for the sheer reason that main stream gaming is reliant on muh realism.
To even use pixel art that would match such designs still requires a large amount of effort, defeating the purpose of it.
Calarts is usually made to be easily massed produced, something games do not tend to do with internal assets.
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acdae8 No.16850769
>>16850719
Just personally, I kinda despise his art in everything except Chrono Trigger. Marle's and Ayla's tits were fascinating to me then. Goofy black-haired sharp men, pointy women, and round weirdos don't really do it for me. It's certainly distinctive enough to spot at once.
>>16850677
Girls with penises and no original vagina are men. Girls with short hair and no tits are tomboys, which are actually girls.
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58bb5b No.16850770
>>16850765
I know you're right but some fucker will inevitably try it
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c417ce No.16850775
>>16850770
Calarts will be used for portraits in some games yeah, but not in a consistent enough fashion to call it a trend or anything significant.
After all its the main flavor of animation currently, some idiot will hire such artists for their game.
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0cf347 No.16850780
>>16849780
If you think the first style looks any less revolting than the second, you have mental problems
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0cf347 No.16850783
>>16850054
At least they didn't downgrade the tiddies
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ae78d3 No.16850942
>>16849774
Stop playing JRPGs.
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3a9de0 No.16851431
>>16849774
>Why is modern art design so cancerous and generic?
Saves money by avoiding good, expensive artists.
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15831e No.16851551
>>16849774
China. It's not just factories being outsourced to the chinese. Look at the credits of any newish anime and you'll see lots of chinese names
>>16849780
>colorful mix of clashing art styles
Probably because the art is split between many freelance artists, who are probably also chinese.
>>16850032
Now THAT's a redesign I just don't get. SJ is from 2010 so it's not even really old enough to need an art overhaul. They probably just wanted to make it more consistent with Doi's art style
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a29dd4 No.16856343
You know I really do hate the Generic 3d cartoony style that Overwatch and Battleborn has. I am just so sick of it popping up everywhere.
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d2ffc8 No.16856400
>>16851551
I honestly don't get why Radiant Historia apparently needed one either. Hirooka isn't a bad artist on his/her own (same person that did Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia's characters), but the original has a real sense of darkness to its shading that almost feels like part of the game's identity, and in which losing it feels really noticeable. Though, that's not getting started on the drastic change in hair style for Eruca up there. Wasn't her previous look intentionally done to make her stand out?
Of course, I really don't think Strange Journey or Radiant Historia even needed to be remade to begin with. The originals hold up well enough, and then there's the fact that the system they were remade for could still play the originals as is.
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80864b No.16856439
>>16849967
>cherie goes from being smoking warrior girl to schoolgirl in shitty armor
>bernhardt goes from being a chiseled chad emperor to a man with too much fat on his face
>vargas goes from buff as fuck experienced general to a guy who looks like he's going to NTR you
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300df9 No.16856533
>>16850032
>>16850054
Considering how often in RH that characters outright die in story from your bad decisions, this is awful. I would never play a game to let a generic waifu die. Interested in tomboys mean you're 1000% straight.
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a29dd4 No.16856639
>>16849967
I kinda like that the shoulder armour isn't FUCK HUEG but everything else is such a downgrade.
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b3d789 No.16860896
>Power armor
>Decorate it with fur
All of my disgust
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8d543e No.16860914
>>16850076
It's hard to describe what's wrong with modern character designs.
Technically speaking they don't all look the same, but they're all feel the same and they aren't iconic or stand out in any way. They blend together within my mind into an amorphous blob of uninspired derivative garbage. No individual design is memorable, rather the collective mental image of all nu-designs is memorable only in how generic and shit-tier they all are
>>16850119
>pauldrons good
I don't know anon, wow loves pauldrons are their armors all look like generic bog-standard modern fantasy suits made of cardboard
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f90f17 No.16860929
>>16856343
Same here. It pisses me off more when you realize they have some creative people working on those games but they're only a fraction of the total sum.
>Paladins
>Nearly every character model looks generic, ugly or not even part of the same universe or game skye's ass is pretty good though
>the one visually appealing part of the game are the creative reload animations
>An angel with a holy sword re-etches the runes on the sword
>a guy with a flaming sword pours oil on it to reignite it
>a guy who can rewind time rewinds his gun which has a drum magazine shaped like a clock arm
>A demon who throws away his Gatling gun, opens a portal to hell, fishes around a bit in it and pulls out another minigun although the video I've seen of it implies the animation takes up quite a lot of the screen
>a sentient giant bomb spawns bombs and stores them in his hollow arms, they then pop out of his wrist and he catches them
It's quite neat. Shame about the actual game though
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acdae8 No.16860940
>>16860914
When you put them on chunky low poly WoW characters they do look like silly garbage instead of outdated 80s-90s anime armor. It's the same piece of armor used in a similar way, yeah, but the end result is completely different. Like you said, I too have a hard time saying what makes them different that can't be dismissed as nostalgia for Japanese beanpole cartoons. Honestly, it probably is just that.
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2d383a No.16863677
>>16860929
>actual game
It's better than overwatch. And other class arena shooters are worse than both.
Hovewer Overwatch looks way more professionaly made. Even though characters are generic and full of soy. Even huge women like Zarya or May have no ass. Widow is so thin it's a literal spider. Tracer have no muscular mass at all, it's a fucking skeleton with hip bones put very close together so nobody would have any ideas.
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cac7dd No.16863681
>>16860929
>>16863677
Skins in overwatch are so fucking bland it is painful, the rarest most diverse skins still look almost exactly the same as vanilla.
Paladins used to have a cool system to mix and match parts of skins, sad threy scrapped it but it did get some more creative skins instead.
Also game wise paladins is just way better than overwatch, but that isn't hard with how bland blizzard made it.
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b3d789 No.16863785
>>16863722
>>16863724
>>16863729
Please kill yourself, thanks
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71d099 No.16863802
>>16863799
Fuck off and go back to cuckchannel, niggerpill.
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a6ba09 No.16863806
>>16863805
*There is not a single good modern anything with good art design
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abbad0 No.16863809
>nostalgia goggles the thread
Urushihara's art style was also considered generic when Langrisser first released.
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268020 No.16863812
>>16850080
That video makes a lot of sense. He even says (as a joke) at one point that he could get a call from Crytek to make a piece in 3 days. That just tells you the kinds of deadlines devs are dealing with here, even when someone outsources work to them.
Of course the quality is going to take a nosedive when they don't even have the time to think about what they're going to produce. Looking slick is all that matters.
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d738ea No.16863814
>>16863809
nah, Urushihara was peak 80's style. Other artists were similar, but never reached his level of details.
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87345d No.16863820
>>16863802
The anon you replied to is right. Every modern western game is shit. Every modern Japanese game is shit. Every modern game from anywhere in the world is shit. Everyone on /v/ knows it deep down.
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e352eb No.16863822
>>16863812
The role of concept art isn't to be an artistic work, like a painting or whatever, but to exist as a point of reference in creation of the game. In some projects they just take raw pictures or something existing and put that in the game. So I can appreciate these hack methods being used, you're trying to design something and often by ripping something off without being the thing.
Consider the Mass Effect games for example, they basically pilfered Syd Mead's art wholesale. In the second game they just lifted a costume from Farscape for Shepard.
As long as this is what it is intended to be I see nothing wrong with it, although a cohesive and more properly developed art direction is always better in terms of aesthetics. Most games don't do that though.
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268020 No.16863823
>>16863822
>but to exist as a point of reference in creation of the game
He's doing a lot more than that. And when you spend 3 days on your character design you can't expect it to not look generic even if it is slick. Watch the video.
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268020 No.16863825
>>16863823
>3 days
I should correct myself, he said 4 hours for a character.
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f5834c No.16863826
You know what the worst art style is? That flat, muted colour faux-Pixar style.
Every fucking game uses it now, from Fortnite to Warcraft 3 Reforged, it's so fucking ugly.
>>16860896
It's hot though
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f5834c No.16863830
>>16863799
>modern cuckchan image
Regardless, I have some corrections to make.
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>not Coded
>Breath of the Wild
>not the CGI games Out of all of these this has to be the most egregious. There are several Zelda games that are far, far worse than BotW. The CGI games aren't even obscure like how Kingdom Hearts: Coded is, they're legendarily bad.
>Brotherhood of Steel
>not 76
>Full Frontal Assault
>not All 4 One
>Devil May Cry 5
>not DmC
>FFXV
>not FFIIX
>Smash Bros Ultimate
>not Brawl
The rest I either agree with or haven't played. If this is bait, then it's great bait, because about half of these are correct.
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f5834c No.16863831
>>16863830
>FFIIX
Whoops, meant FFXIII.
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151feb No.16863832
>>16849793
Ys is so dead to us it's not even funny. All of the games after 7 were godawful at best.
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83f17f No.16863837
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fe95b7 No.16863840
>>16850153
It still looks like Halo anon that's my point it's not enough of a a drastic change in the art style that I can't recognise it being Halo, now gameplay and etc is another story because the later games are a total fucking mess.
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f90f17 No.16863860
>>16863832
For once I'd love someone to reply to me when it comes to the latter Ys games who isn't niggerpill.
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fa419c No.16863862
>>16863814
>Nah
It's pretty generic.
>80s generic is better than nu-generic
Not wrong
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b3d789 No.16863868
>>16863840
>It still looks like Halo anon
No
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10b799 No.16863871
>>16863681
>>16863677
What? if anything the model design of OW is its strong suit
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994a99 No.16863880
If I ever become a game designer, I'll try to hire this Kaneko imitator. The gaming industry needs more art like this.
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062b5d No.16863886
>>16863868
It looks like Metroid prime, but not shit.
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dfcf99 No.16863887
Member when pikachu looked like an actual mouse instead of a yellow plastic bobblehead?
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abbad0 No.16863898
>>16863887
1 of them is just a fat mouse.
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dfcf99 No.16863901
>>16863898
second looks like garbage
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a82191 No.16863903
>>16863880
>Posting all of that art
>But not posting his version of 2B
How foolish of you anon!
And I have no clue whats going on in that "009" image but it looks rad as fuck.
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994a99 No.16863913
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b666da No.16863921
>>16863915
SO KILL YOURSELF ALREADY YOU BLACKPILL NIGGER
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6543eb No.16863924
>>>/v/16863915
No it is not.
>>16863921
Echoing this.
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016f30 No.16863927
I dare you to find worse gun design.
>>16863880
>The Devil
Cool it with the anti-semtic remarks
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b666da No.16863951
>>16863927
Atleast those look like they might function. I could buy a bunch of mutants or cavemen coming up with that.
Now Fo3? The sawed off shotty fired twice despite having only one trigger, the G3-espue assault rifle had its bolt operate like an AK and the bolt action rifle had no sights. And of course, pic related being the dumbest of it all.
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765fd8 No.16863954
What do you guys think are good vidya designs?
>>16863927
>That description
Sounds like they were intentionally making bad guns to match a setting where people through shit they found in a wasteland together to make something.
>>16863951
The gun will never cease to confuse the hell out of me. Why is the round mag drum so far away from the ejection port? How would it even chamber a round? Why does it have those holes to reduce recoil yet they're covered up? What the hell is that in front of the trigger?
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dfcf99 No.16863958
>>16863951
A New Vegas modder fixed that abomination. Almost all of the F3 weapons trigger my autism. Why does a hunting rifle that fires 32 short bullets eject 308 casings? Why does it do more damage than the 32 pistol? Why does it not have any fucking sights?
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69fbbb No.16863962
>>16849780
I've seen this image posted around. Some of those are not bad. The man with the cigar and the sleazy man I think are both done ratehr well. Should have kept similar colored clothing I think but otherwise they are pretty damn good. though there is the obvious style change
The cop and the man two down from her are decent enough. The red haired girl is a bit hard to tell but I'd but her on the same level as the previous two.
The bottom man on the left it's too hard to tell because despite the 6 images of him only two have a decent comparison and he's covered in a cloak for those.
Otherwise there are some pretty big differences, especially the guy that became a girl. The newer ones do have some advantage over the old though, their eyebrows are actually under their hair as opposed to floating in front of their head and there's a lot less white. Was probably for shading, but it just looks bad with the exception of the sleazy guy, could add to his look, and the red haired girl's black clothing that I think might be some type of shiny material.
they should have kept the original team's art though
>>16849967
The changes aren't nearly as extreme as the other one posted. Biggest thing just looks to be they made everyone less bulky.
>>16850054
This actually looks really good. Are you just complaining that she's no longer a nigger? Legitimately I think you're just looking back at the old one with nostalgia.
>>16850015
Considering you're looking at designs over decades not surprised there's been a lot of changes. The most recent vampire and mage look laughable, but the dragon's not bad. You can even see how they've been wanting to do something like that as far back as 1996 with the blue dots in his wings which came back stronger in 2002 then they were able to go all out in 2012. Not a huge surprise they went a bit overboard considering the tech was finally able to do what they wanted.
>>16850080
>gdc
>arab
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016f30 No.16863992
>>16863954
The problem is the guns fire without failure instead of blowing your retard arms off for trying to make and use something you have zero knowledge about.
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ed122a No.16863995
>>16863927
Borderlands 3 and Destiny
But yeah Fallout 4 weapon design is fucking trash.
They couldn't even be arsed to code a mid magazine reload for weapons.
The most disgusting thing is the Assault Rifle which is literally a Maxim WW1 Machinegun.
A fucking asault rifle is as bulky as the Minigun.
This is supposed to be an early-mid game weapon then again it doesn't matter because level scaling this shit is supposed to be a top tier automatic hancannon and instead it's treated as a fucking Assault Rifle peashooter
Bravo Bethesda!
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4e1280 No.16863999
>>16863958
>why does a hunting rifle do more dmg than a pistol with the same caliber
Longer barrel = more velocity.
Playing videogames and thinking you're some sort of an expert based on that is embarrasing.
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016f30 No.16864000
>>16863995
It's amazing how bethesda couldn't understand what power armor is and what it does despite plastering it all over promo materials.
Or a 1-10 scale of human traits, like strength for this example
<abomination frankengun of 3 different WWI LMG's
>Power armor makes you into a one man armored vehicle
>you're immune to small arms fire, have increased STRENGTH
>instead of power armor allowing you to carry a gatling gun in your bare hands and fire with no recoil, or something like the plasma rifle from Fallout 2 they design an outdated piece of shit that's water cooled in an era where glock sells plasma pistols for personal protection.
>>16863999
What a waste of trips.
I'm sure adding a longer barrel to a mauser will make the 9mm bullet deal MOAR damage.
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3bd931 No.16864008
>>16863999
Nice trips but, you're fucking wrong. .32presumably ACP is a pistol round and so is designed for a short barrel. A pistol round out of a hunting rifle length barrel will have less velocity if anything. Cartridges are designed with pressure curves matched to certain barrel lengths; this is why chopped down carbine lengths, especially sub-carbines, create fuck huge muzzle blast given the same cartridge us as the full length rifle.
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10b799 No.16864013
I'm in love with the visual design of the cast
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f7ba07 No.16864016
>>16864014
>wanting to see guys in video games
What are you, gay?
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dabb5b No.16864027
>yoko taro game
>feminist bullshit
Jesus Christ I love polniggers who've never played a videogame in their lives.
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21f6cc No.16864030
>>16863862
Could you post work from other artists that look like Urushihara's stuff? I really like his artwork and have been trying to find something similar for awhile.
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8d543e No.16864042
>>16863903
>western redesign covers up more skin
<Censorship!
>asian redesign covers up more skin
<based nipponese make such great designs
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69fbbb No.16864051
>>16864033
oh no it's this autist
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abbad0 No.16864053
>>16864027
>falling for obvious b8
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b3d789 No.16864066
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765fd8 No.16864103
>>16863962
The Radiant Historia art change isn't that the art is bad or anything like that. The new designs are good. However the setting for Radiant Historia is not a happy one and the old art better matched that.
>>16864030
I don't think you will get an alternative. Uru's art has a very recognizable art style where everyone can immediately tell it's his art at a quick glance. Calling it generic doesn't make any sense. Though his art of his female characters may suffer from same-face or the same body type. Kind of like Tony Taka. Despite that's it's still great.
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80864b No.16864164
>>16864103
>The Radiant Historia art change isn't that the art is bad or anything like that
Yes it is, it also doesn't help that there's a giant white gradient on every fucking portrait for no reason.
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acdae8 No.16864343
>>16864013
It's just generic-looking overdesigned Japanese stuff. It's the kind of design you can't even parody with any subtlety.
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dfcf99 No.16864541
>>16863999
The 32 pistol does 6 damage you fucking nigger. It's the weakest pistol in the god damn game. The hunting rifle does 25 damage. Also the velocity of the 32 bullet wouldn't cause a greater wound, the wound channel would be mostly the same. The higher velocity would make the bullet travel farther and drop less. Fucking kill yourself.
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