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>playing on NM

It was literally created as a joke difficulty. As in, people were complaining Ultra Violence was too easy and Romero went ahead and made a difficulty with monsters so overpowered pinkies look like a scooby doo gag, with yakety sax and all.

Practice on UV-fast if you're really hell-bent on making it harder for no reason.

also nice blogpost FAGGOT

Dude, NM is a fucking meme by Romero and Carmack for players that said Doom wasn't hard enough. They didn't even test if the game was beatable before adding it.

I don't think anybody even beat it on a single playthrough until two years after its introduction.

another autistic doom fan is born

You are not supposed to play on nightmare.

>>16839940

>Then why did they include it?!

to fuck over retards who force themselves to play on the hardest difficulty possible

your "oath" is stupid

>>16839822

Why can't you be a regular autist. set the difficulty to Normal, play for a while and gradually increment it if the game is too easy?

Difficulty levels aren't some badge of honor, they're an handicap you give the PC based on how good you are and nothing else.

>>16839976

>Why can't you be a regular autist

Because I have 300+ games on my backlog (So, I'll likely only be playing through most of my games once), some games lock features behind higher difficulties (So, might as well play everything on the hardest so that I can experience "everything"), and I want to be better than those fags who play something just to say their they played it (And, don't even bother to finish it).

>>16839999

You need to think of Nightmare as more of a special alternate game mode than just a difficulty setting.

In a way it was implemented as an experiment in the vein of: "Let's make something we think is utterly unfair and see whether anyone is made enough to actually complete them."

Being able to complete E1M3 (or worse E4M1) is something you can only do when you spent a lot of time to get really good at this game. (And if we add Final Doom I think Evilution Map09 has only ever been completed on NM twice).

So if you want to be a completionist just go for UV Max Kills/Max Secrets.

>>16839822

>not treating nightmare like hard but gimmicky

it's like serious sam's mental, you could play it but serious is the true difficulty mode to choose

What kind of dumb fucking idiot plays doom without "always run" on

>>16839822

You're an idiot. You have the same instincts to show off and gain social cred as a normalfag, but since you're at the bottom of the food chain IRL, you resort to chase after stupid challenges amidst children toys.

Nobody gives a fuck. Play something that you actually like and learn something about yourself, instead of living by proxy.

>>16839999

>Because I have 300+ games on my backlog

That means you really don't need a reason to take any longer than necessary to play each of your games, then.

Put them in a difficulty level where you're not getting bored but any higher than that just means your backlog will take even longer to complete for no good reason.

>I want to be better than those fags who play something just to say their they played it

That's an ego reason, which is already stupid on it's own since you're caring about completely random anonymous faggots on the other side of the globe.

As long as you're getting a decent challenge, or there's a very specific reason to do it (Deus EX, Stalker) there's no reason to increase the difficulty behind what you need, instead of what you feel like you should get.

There aren't even that many games that lock content behind higher difficulty levels and those that do will often lock the higher difficulties as well anyway.

You're also playing levels of difficulty that often expect you to be familiar not just with the genre of the game but with that specific game too. You can play an RTS with as high a difficulty as you can, but the game will then expect that you not only know very well how to play RTS games very well but also understand it's own specific economy and unit counters and powers.

I'm getting the distinct feeling you're that autist that started Nier Automata in the highest difficulty and then made a thread complaining how the first boss was impossible because he didn't knew half the things he could do to evade attacks.

OP is a faggot

Nigga just play on Ultra-Violence. It is literally the way to play to doom. All wads (including the official ones) are designed to play on that. Night more is more like an extra challenge for good players. If you said "Yeah I've played through Doom 1 and 2" Everybody is gonna assume you mean on UV.

>>16839822

It takes years to even get decent enough to even pretend you might be able to clear NM without savescumming to hell and back.

Don't ruin your fun and just play on UV or UV -fast, if you need harder still try pistol starts, and if that's still not enough something like the Hard Doom / Babel / Colorful Hell mod ought to be enough.

If you're having some autistic breakdown over this and absolutely need to do NM, go look up ZeroMaster, he's probably the only guy to have done single segment (as in no reload no deaths) NM playthrough of all of the official WADs and his videos should be plenty helpful in getting you through this shit.

>>16840122

Mental is just retarded, it's not even as hard as Serious.

>>16839822

Ultra Violence is the hardest difficulty (and considered canon)

Nightmare is Hurt Me Plenty with respawn. In terms of function the goal is to speed through levels with the minimum number of kills (and therefore the least amount of distraction)

>>16844409

>Nightmare is Hurt Me Plenty with respawn

NM is UV with fast monsters, respawns and double ammo, at-least for DOOM

Also to note using -fast isn't exactly the same as NM, the monsters don't attack immediately (granted it's almost immediately) when they see you unlike when you play NM.

>>16841134

>That means you really don't need a reason to take any longer than necessary to play each of your games, then.

Nah, don't do that. If you start playing games just so you can say you've finished them, your backlog will become no6thing but a chore. I think OP has his heart in the right place, he's just a little autistic. Nightmare is a joke difficulty.

>>16839822

Nightmare is intentional bullshit, don't play it outside of co-op. That said, I can't play Vanilla Ultimate Doom anymore, I don't like most of the levels and even Ultra Violence is too easy now. I did the gameplay in the video, it is Brutal Doom: SE Plutonia, on Black Metal difficulty (faster monsters, 50% more damage), with fall damage and faster monster flags enabled, with an xbone controller. The maps may be shorter than those in base Ultimate Doom but they are just so much more interestingly designed and give you so many things to shoot.

>Doom

If any of you degenerate fucks are like me you should know that /demonp/ is back.

Taking the sinfulness in homosex to an all new level.

This seems like the right thread to post this. I was looking up the names of the difficulties in Blood because I had brainfarted them, and I stumbled across this fucking hilarious blogpost about a guy who was rectally ruptured by the difficulty select screen in Wolfenstein TNO. This is even more pathetic than that guy who cried after shooting an AR-15 at paper targets.

http://archive.is/7EeMo

>>16839822

>Might as well have "Always Run" enabled

Now you're getting it. Unlike DSP.

Be advised though, that most boomer Doomers don't even play on Nightmare mode. Frankly, I don't because I find the respawning monsters to be tedious. Ideal settings for most players are Ultra-Violence plus fast monsters. Most players who play on UV regularly get good enough at dodging normal monster speed attacks, so adding the fast monsters switch in the command line is a good difficulty.

The difficulty scaling in Doom works by adding more enemies in specified spawn points delineated by difficulty in the map data. UV is the top bracket for additional monsters so most players consider that to be "ideal." Nightmare also disables cheats just because Romero thought it would be funny. It is doable, especially on Ultimate Doom because Doom 1 is easier than Doom 2. You'll probably want to kill yourself in the last episode though.

>>16846889

>Plutonia

Meh. Try playing Doom 64's level set instead. It is quite good, better on average than 1 or 2's vanilla levels, although I think my favorite levels are still buried within 1 or 2 somewhere. They just have really hit-and-miss level sets.