eb76eb No.16830263
Has there ever been a good isometric action game?
I just tried playing Light Crusader on Mega Drive and holy fuck, it's like pulling teeth. It even tries to do isometric platforming, which wouldn't be a problem, but they use platforms at different heights with no way to tell the height of the fucking thing. The sprites look exactly the same!
What were they thinking?!
I love Treasure, but this is their worst game by far.
Fuck Light Crusader.
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d7eb43 No.16830283
>bad games by good devs
Every single "souls" game by Fromsoft.
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e711c8 No.16830295
>>16830263
Light Crusader is a good game though.
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9c81b1 No.16830372
Crusader: No Remorse was a pretty good isometric action game. Syndicate (the original, not the FPS reboot) wasn't bad either.
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de0ee9 No.16830405
>>16830263
Light Crusader is pretty decent, despite the trouble with jumps in isometric perspective.
Also, Skeleton Krew is pretty fun, and I love its 90s-edgy-comics aesthetics.
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74d796 No.16830418
>>16830283
But those are practically their only games worth a damn, anon.
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de0ee9 No.16830425
>bad games by good devs
>Has there ever been a good isometric action game?
Wait, which one is this thread about again?
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f40526 No.16830614
>>16830425
Talking about good isometric games would be more interesting.
Desert Strike was simple fun.
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096ffe No.16830621
Solstice for the NES does isometric platforming fairly well. It's rare that you can't tell something's height and position (though it does happen sometimes). And Tim Follin's title screen music is fucking fantastic as is all his work, but that's a topic for another thread
its sequel Equinox for the SNES is less ambitious about its platforming but still decent
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eb76eb No.16830846
>>16830372
Just gave Crusader a go. I really liked it, but fuck it has not aged well. Collision detection and aiming are janky as fuck. Playing as Red Boba Fett was fun though. If it ever got a decent remaster or a proper remake I would play the fuck out of it.
>>16830614
The Strike series was fun. I don't recall there being issues with Z levels in those games.
>>16830621
Loved Equinox on SNES, though I had to quit on the boat level as it gave me motion sickness for some reason (and since the dungeons get exponentially larger as you progress it would have been a looong fucking dungeon.
The trick of clearly demonstrating height by stacking blocks on top of each other, and having other blocks relative to that height, does a great job of mitigating Z level guesswork. Light Crusader had none of that. Just thin floating platforms with no reference.
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4d20a1 No.16830850
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>>16830263
>light crusader
>bad
Nigger fuck you.
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50756b No.16830865
>>16830846
>not aged well
Funny thing to mention, I replayed it recently and felt in controlled better than when I initially played it as a youngfag.
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da7975 No.16830866
>>16830846
>Just gave Crusader a go. I really liked it, but fuck it has not aged well. Collision detection and aiming are janky as fuck.
That's the shitty Ultima 8 engine, movement is somehow driven by animation rather than the other way around. Crusader would have been a fucking awesome game if it had a 3D perspective, but it was still too early for that.
I tried all the various control settings, but none of them were any good. Still made it through the game somehow, but it was pretty awkward. I like how you had all those cool moves like crouching or rolling to get past traps, and how you could blow things up or take control of drones to wreak havoc.
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018dcc No.16830948
>>16830372
Crusader's exactly the kind of game I would expect to get a remake one of these days. I'd also expect the remake to focus on the wrong thing–like the dozen or so different ways of killing guys with different death animations instead of being a decent isometric shooter. There must be something hard about making real time action isometric games, because nobody has bothered to try and remake or fan-remake things like Crusader or the * Strike games. Sure they're all simplistic, but I would've thought some amateur would've thought they were a great place to start learning.
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cf7646 No.16830962
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e711c8 No.16830977
>>16830962
We need to go thicker.
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0a5068 No.16831273
What about good games by bad devs? Is there such a thing?
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b170e2 No.16831314
>>16830977 (checked)
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT, SICKO??
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cf2766 No.16831323
>>16831273
Half-Life: Opposing Force
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366467 No.16832293
Moonwalker is decent for a quarter-guzzling arcade. It looked really impressive back then. But I still like the Mega Drive one better, by far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S6H2iHue4A
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13776d No.16832370
File: e36645090f475bf⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 14.96 MB, 640x360, 16:9, How to score with hot thic….mp4)
>>16831314
Don't you mean "thicko"?
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5be06b No.16832405
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d0ea2d No.16832446
>>16830263
I never had any problems with Landstalker or Light Crusader or other isometric games.
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e711c8 No.16832452
>>16832446
Landstalker can get annoying since you are locked into moving in four diagonal directions.
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201666 No.16832538
>>16832452
I never really had an issue with it but it could get jankey on some of the jumping puzzles.
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9370dc No.16833489
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4fddca No.16846717
>>16830418
3D Dot Game Heroes is their only good game.
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da1dfa No.16846718
>>16830283
While I don't think the games are god's gift to man I'm sick of faggots like you trying to act like the games are these awful things.
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ea5111 No.16846722
>Has there ever been a good isometric action game?
<ignores history of PC gaming
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f64598 No.16846726
>>16846717
FromSoft didn't even develop that one, they just published it for Silicon Studios in Japan.
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c2662d No.16846732
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Hades (from the Bastion/Transistor guys) just went early access. I haven't played it, but I've liked their games so far.
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a3721f No.16847266
>>16846732
I've liked it so far, I'm surprised there's no thread on it.
It's got faggotry in it though, because the modern perception of greece is one that endorsed faggotry. So if you're autisitic about optional dialog having fags in it then don't play it.
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c33de6 No.16847335
>>16831314
OH GOD YES
please, I need THICKER
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42f7d0 No.16847342
>>16830283
I just played through the King's field series and I have to agree with you.
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574580 No.16848388
>>16830372
Syndicate Wars was best
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