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936f3a  No.16828069[Last 50 Posts]

Looking at the absolute fucking shitshow that Warcraft III Refunded I was thinking what Remasters or Remakes of older titles that are done right or what are ones that are abominations that ruin the older titles? Ones that were good in my book were Odin Sphere on PS4 that added quality of life changes and new skills along with a mode that had the original PS2 gameplay, another would be Ni No Kuni since it's remastered put in on the PC which in general improved the game's performance along with keeping it out of Soyny's sjw hands.

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604196  No.16828077

i fucking hate how most remasters are heres the game but with slightly updated graphics. Also Atlus choosing to remake strange journey instead of an older title was retarded and i can only imagine what shit game freak will pull off with a gen 4 remake

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936f3a  No.16828081

>>16828077

>Atlus choosing to remake strange journey

That pissed me off something fierce as any other game needed it way fucking more.

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ba537e  No.16828086

File: 21e9449f336cd00⋯.jpg (23.52 KB, 300x188, 75:47, OiF.jpg)

This usually comes to mind first. Taking one of the least liked games in the series and making it the best or second best if you're like me and you liked Origin more is quite an accomplishment in my opinion.

How are the Nino Kuni games anyways?

>>16828077

>i fucking hate how most remasters are heres the game but with slightly updated graphics

Agreed. It drove me up a wall to hear that both Darksiders 1 and 2 would get remasters and I figured they, especially the rushed Darksiders 2 would get some much needed content and care and instead they apparently just fucked the performance of either game. I don't know how DS2 ran the way it did but it was pretty good, especially how the main menu presents itself.

And that goes double for all those Mega Man collections that don't add content or anything worth playing over an emulator, especially since with Classic and X they had the opportunity to continue the remakes like Powered Up and Maverick Hunter, which actually did add content like playable bosses, extra bosses or a second campaign in X's case.

let me fucking post god damn

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8e7403  No.16828090

File: 9f17597e5b6b822⋯.png (138.43 KB, 500x498, 250:249, i-smoke-marlboro-you-smoke….png)

>>16828077

I only like remasters if they get a PC port

It means that game becomes archived and immortalized, though emulation and fan creations have helped with that a great deal.

All these faggot devs and publishers complaining about piracy, emulation and abadonware efforts and yet they're the ones who keep these older games fresh in the minds of most people so that they can then make a reashed release for a quick buck.

Soytendo is the fucking worst with that

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936f3a  No.16828091

>>16828086

>How are the Nino Kuni games anyways?

Pretty good it's like playing a Ghibli film as an JRPG.

>>16828086

>especially the rushed Darksiders 2

They could have used the resources to make Shadow's edge longer but still for a rushed game DS2 still was pretty enjoyable.

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fe6ae6  No.16828092

Most remasters of newer games are far more paletable than remakes of older games. Have you fucking seen those Spyro and Crash remakes? Shit is fucking disgusting.

Xenoblade Definitive might be the first remaster I consider getting, since the improvement in graphics is noticeable enough while not making me want to shoot up the devs' offices, while actually adding some interesting new content too. Still will probably pirate it.

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8e7403  No.16828095

File: 8cd7a085521f8d2⋯.jpg (29.25 KB, 459x512, 459:512, 310e060dc5b44124f028c48b10….jpg)

>>16828092

>Supporting Nintenjew in any way

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fe6ae6  No.16828097

>>16828095

I support good games, cry about it. How dare I play something other than a fucking Doom WAD?

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ba537e  No.16828101

>>16828091

>but still for a rushed game DS2 still was pretty enjoyable.

It is, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been better, and after Darksiders 3 I've essentially lost hope with the series. I'm curious as to how Genesis is though

>>16828092

>Have you fucking seen those Spyro and Crash remakes? Shit is fucking disgusting.

This is off topic but I'm convinced there's no one online with a decent opinion on video games outside of imageboards. It boils my blood when I'm listening to a movie or a music or a whatever podcast talking and making decent and great points about a subject, and then that fucking "so what about video games, what did you guys play/would call your top games etc" question gets asked and it feels like everyone pulls up a "Games released in X year, sorted by popularity" list and regurgitates it. To hear so many people sing the praises of Spyro Reignited and say that it's great and looks wonderful and charming and cream themselves over the bara dragons for whatever reasons and then go "oh I've never played the original games they're old and yuckie"

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8e7403  No.16828104

File: 93c5a27383eb207⋯.png (7.2 KB, 314x160, 157:80, images.png)

>>16828097

>Supporting a shit company that shuts down anything they see fit

>Supporting a shit company that constantly reashes and dumbs down their IPs

>Nintendo

>Good games

I thank God everyday that I'm not an Americunt.

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604196  No.16828106

>>16828086

I played the Warmastered remake and found it to be a giant waste of time, the fact that there are hardly any remastered textures and it being the base Xbox 360 game with only slightly better performance and a bit of controller remapping was disappointing same goes with II. Can't wait for the inevitable remasters of III and Origins.

>>16828081

that and remaking Catherine were two of some of the most retarded decisions i saw them make the past few years. Instead of remaking an older game like the first three or going with something safe like remaking a persona title they went with an already perfect DS game and a game that came out last console generation and both didn't need a new female protagonist to change the plot in any way.

>>16828092

I remember playing both. Crash was just the PS1 shit but looked like a chink game and the Spryo one felt piss baby easy for the most part until i just stopped at the third game

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0efe42  No.16828107

>>16828097

>remasters of newer games

Incremental shit like that is cancerous, all it does is create an illusion of a larger game catalog.

>How dare I play something other than a fucking Doom WAD?

I don't know, perhaps you're homosexual.

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936f3a  No.16828108

File: d61234a98f426fe⋯.png (497.36 KB, 817x605, 817:605, sweating like mad.PNG)

>>16828090

>if they get a PC port

It's a reason I was so pleased with Ni No kuni 1's remaster since it was now on PC and will never be lost to old console hardware that ran the game poorly in the first place.

>>16828101

> "oh I've never played the original games they're old and yuckie"

This people piss me as they have no understanding of why the older games had merit over a lackluster remake/remaster.

>>16828104

>Thinks the EU caliphate or anywhere else has always has good taste

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8e7403  No.16828109

File: 4571de684ed330f⋯.gif (1.89 MB, 435x250, 87:50, TartThreadbareChinchilla-s….gif)

>>16828101

Video games are interactive and require much more patience

The average movienigger pretentious asshat can probably binge an 5 hour film or a series but not be able to finish an 8 hour game in one sitting.

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936f3a  No.16828110

>>16828106

>both didn't need a new female protagonist to change the plot in any way.

I don't mind it as it can add variety if done well but I still agree that any other titles should have been given the attention.

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fe6ae6  No.16828114

>>16828101

I get not having played the originals but I don't fucking get how anyone can look at Spyro reignited and think "yeah, this looks okay". All those retards jerking it off, screeching about "oh wow, it looks like a Pixar movie!" and somehow accepting the disgusting visual clutter, and the Korean WoW-ripoff-tier character (re)designs.

>>16828109

That's barely an excuse. I don't play vidya for more than an hour a day.

>>16828106

>I remember playing both. Crash was just the PS1 shit but looked like a chink game and the Spryo one felt piss baby easy for the most part until i just stopped at the third game

I was too astounded by the redesigned graphics to ever actually touch it but the gameplay fuckery was noticeable with Spyro especially. I guess there wasn't quite as much to fuck up about Crash, or their team was just a tad less shit. Though look at how the CTR remake went, that is some real fucking aids.

>Instead of remaking an older game like the first three or going with something safe like remaking a persona title

Persona 2 will never happen for obvious reasons. Persona 1 would be possible but Atlus likes to pretend neither 1 or 2 exist.

That and their remake bullshit has been in line with their recent practices. They've done that for nearly semi-popular game since Persona 3.

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604196  No.16828115

>>16828110

while that is true, i think it's just that Qatherine and Alex felt a bit underdeveloped and that it rubbed me off a bit

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936f3a  No.16828121

>>16828115

>>16828114

>while that is true, i think it's just that Qatherine and Alex felt a bit underdeveloped and that it rubbed me off a bit

I'm going on a tangent but this my issue with Atlus and their remasters/remakes they waste any potential with them. Like for example P5 Royal could have had a female run which could have been interesting due to the inherit social advantages/disadvantages a girl has along with how different it could have been as fem Joker plus they could have revamped more of the dungeons and quality of life instead of the milquetoast changes they did or added a PC port since Soyny is a dying brand in gaming. The other issue is that the changes for shit like Catherine or P5 really should have been DLC instead of charging full price for a old game with a handful of changes.

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8e7403  No.16828125

>>16828108

EU was smart enough to keep playing on PC and ignore Soytendo

>>16828114

>Barely an excuse

It really is not, have you seen the average normalfag play a videogame?

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936f3a  No.16828126

>>16828125

>It really is not, have you seen the average normalfag play a videogame?

>Play

Anon let's not say things that aren't true the average normalfag watches let's plays and allows the games they got waste away.

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fe6ae6  No.16828127

>>16828125

>EU was smart enough to keep playing on PC and ignore Soytendo

Have you seen how popular Playstation is here? Besides, most jewropoors' taste in PC games is free to play garbage like DOTA, LoL and Counter Strike.

>>16828126

Reminds me of that poll by Toby Fox showing that more than half of people who "experienced" Undertale didn't actually play it. I think it was 43% that played it or so.

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936f3a  No.16828129

File: 5686e3b1cfb194a⋯.png (37.78 KB, 192x211, 192:211, oh boy kill me.png)

>>16828127

>I think it was 43% that played it or so.

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fbd727  No.16828132

File: 66777568da0fe9a⋯.jpg (902.53 KB, 3264x1840, 204:115, here's_your_controller_bro.jpg)

>>16828129

Meme skeleton is in smash.

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810bb7  No.16828134

File: c907be2e29efc54⋯.jpg (9.16 KB, 480x360, 4:3, hqdefault (3).jpg)

>>16828127

>I think it was 43% that played it or so.

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936f3a  No.16828135

File: 1f1a8a244f3a2af⋯.jpg (2.27 MB, 2668x2585, 2668:2585, Lessons in Color Theory fo….jpg)

On the topic of Spyro.

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604196  No.16828147

File: f71dbcca1cebf02⋯.jpg (24.52 KB, 1065x223, 1065:223, lmao.jpg)

>>16828127

reminds me, a majority of persona 5 fans have never actually finished 5

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936f3a  No.16828150

File: 6d9eb659bd4a741⋯.png (102.92 KB, 298x334, 149:167, Pathetic.png)

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6eec19  No.16828163

>>16828077

They outright ruined titles like Strange Journey and Radiant Historia with their new girl bullshit.

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936f3a  No.16828166

>>16828163

I'm still fucking mad.

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b14581  No.16828167

I think a remaster should add not just improve the graphics but increase the playability, like adding QOL changes that just improve game flow and make things smoother and easier without really dumbing it down.

So stuff like not needing to go through the whole menu every time you try to talk to someone or use the stairs in Dragon Quest, but having a context sensitive button.

Or if it takes a game to a big change. The XC1 remake for Switch is borderline, as the Wii is ancient non-HD hardware with really low quality models and textures, but there aren't any real improvements to QOL or gameplay that could be added.

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b14581  No.16828169

>>16828147

Are those stats from the PSN? That's actually pretty good for completion, considering that includes every profile that ever booted the game.

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6eec19  No.16828171

>>16828166

While the original staff fucked up the RH remake, they outsourced the new content for SJ to some no name writer instead of having Ishida be responsible for it. I don't understand nu-Atlus' obsession with happy endings when they simply don't work for titles like these.

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604196  No.16828172

>>16828167

i personally think remasters should also be used to restore lost but perfectly usable content that never made it into the base game as well as fixing any bugs that the original game had that hadn't been fixed. I also think that if theres a remaster of a game with voice acting it should always have dual audio. I think the ff remasters did a few things right with stuff like speeding up shit and the ability to toggle annoying encounters when your at a reasonable level.

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293174  No.16828213

>>16828069

>what Remasters or Remakes of older titles that are done right

Two different topics there. Remakes, I'd say Tales of Phantasia PS1, Atelier Rorona Plus, Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (gameplay remake, not a full remake), REmake, Metroid: Zero Mission, and Pokemon FRLG and HGSS. Also heard good things about Shadow of the Beast, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, and Narikiri Dungeon X; haven't played them myself though, and the latter two are Japan only. Wild Arms ACF was also pretty good in my opinion, but Agetec didn't help things for it here, so I'd say it averages out to be about the same. With a better translation (and more debugging), it could have shined a lot better.

>>16828077

A remaster is not a remake. And sadly not every company actually understands that, which leads to confusion amongst the public too.

>Also Atlus choosing to remake strange journey instead of an older title was retarded

What I didn't get was why they'd remake a game that was already playable in its previous form via backwards compatibility, and without there being a difference enough in capability between both to warrant it either (IE: PS1 to PS2). Same with Radiant Historia, and Bowser's Inside Story. It's not like any of them didn't hold up on the DS, so on the whole it was fucking unnecessary.

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293174  No.16828217

>>16828172

Something I really didn't get was why with the remaster of Tales of Symphonia Bamco didn't take the opportunity to make a "perfect" version with the additional content of the PS2 version but the better framerate and shadowing of the Gamecube one. Instead it was just built on the PS2 one and suffers for its flaws. At least it had dual audio though.

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ba3508  No.16828296

I really enjoyed the Strider remake that got launched a few years back. It was basically a metroidvania remake of Strider 2.

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936f3a  No.16828304

>>16828167

Shit like Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir is what really like in terms of remasters as it's such an improvement to the original in every way plus it gives the option to have the old PS2 gameplay for a nostalgic run in 1080p 60FPS with better sprite work is a reason why I was so pleased with it.

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936f3a  No.16833030

I should add what I also hate is when they change the artstyle for the remake and the new style is total shit.

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000000  No.16833037

>>16828304

I liked Odin Sphere, but the little pointless localization faggotry angers me. They got rid of a reference to Dragon's Crown and Amazon by renaming a skill that was already in English, Lunatic, into Madness instead. That's probably the worst example of utter pointless re-writes that they did.

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936f3a  No.16833045

>>16833037

There was no reason to remove that.

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6eec19  No.16833113

>>16833030

The nu-Atlus method in other words.

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5aefcd  No.16833182

>Unironically Skyrim Special Edition

It looks better, it's no longer 32 bit and it's more stable.

>Titan Quest Anniversary Edition

Graphical update and numerous bugfixes plus you get the expansion for free, it's also still being updated.

>AvP Classic 200

Graphical overhaul that includes new cutscenes made by the devs themselves.

>Stronghold 1, Crusader & Crusader Extreme HD

Widescreen support plus support for HD resolutions.

>Age of Empires II HD

Same as with Stronghold.

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28b0c3  No.16833198

File: a99f113883e72b8⋯.jpg (64.16 KB, 1280x353, 1280:353, BMZ_TrueEndNoteCrop.jpg)

File: 7ef8722c6103670⋯.png (1.16 MB, 1000x708, 250:177, Splash_Mon_003_bmz.png)

Blaster Master Zero was a pretty good remake. Surprisingly, it merged the stories of Chou Wakusei Senki Metafight, Blaster Master, the PSX Blaster Master, and the goddamn Worlds of Power book without doing it in a retarded way. Shame it didn't get a physical release.

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3279ae  No.16833317

>>16833198

Oh, so that's where all the weird anime stuff came from. I was thinking of trying that one a while back but was really turned off by all the crap that wasn't in the NES release. I thought it was just some indie dev's fanwank or something.

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ed2306  No.16833326

>>16828127

>I think it was 43% that played it or so.

How many have actually beat the damn game?

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e36468  No.16833332

File: 24d4c343b4f347b⋯.mp4 (965.55 KB, 640x360, 16:9, Spongebob Sanspants.mp4)

>>16828127

I actually played a bit of it and thats what turned me off of it.

Its an insanely ugly game with unbearable annoying characters and a boring combat system.

The SANS UNDERTALE meme which is only just midly funny a fraction of the time is the only good thing to come out of the game.

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d851f0  No.16833383

File: 6c14186e4d267de⋯.jpg (54.89 KB, 592x600, 74:75, Undertale Stop.jpg)

>>16828127

>people who "experienced" Undertale didn't actually play it. I think it was 43% that played it or so.

Everything that's wrong with gamers and communities nowadays.

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bf98a1  No.16833401

>>16833383

Umm stop trying to cancel fandoms bigot??

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3279ae  No.16833404

>>16833383

I wonder how many of the never-played crowd were just in it for the (furry) porn.

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3243c5  No.16833406

File: 5bbc05dd0cf05b6⋯.jpg (192.49 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Ratchet and Clank 2016 Gam….jpg)

File: de1a235215cd588⋯.jpg (75.94 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Postal Redux Rampage Endin….jpg)

Postal Redux isn't just a remaster of Postal 1, it's a straight upgrade in every single way. The sheer amount of polish and quality of life improvements it implements while retraining all the features of the original is staggering, and all while being incredibly well optimized. Somehow, it runs even better than the 20 year old original game.

The 2016 version of Ratchet and Clank is a completely different experience from the original, but not in a bad way at all. It totally reimagines all the most iconic locations and moments while making it fit in better with the movie. It feels really refreshing and unique, and doesn't feel like just another rehash. The fact that it's really fun and looks amazing helps too.

But I dunno, man. At this point Actiblizzard has set the bar so goddamn low for remakes and remasters that I think anything that doesn't try to completely erase the original game from all legitimate venues is acceptable now. Legacy erasure is a level of shittiness previously only achieved by Randy "Embezzler Extraordinaire" Bitchford with his shitty Duke Nukem World Tour port.

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84d341  No.16833427

>>16828069

Resident Evil 2 Remake seems to be well received.

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cfe5e7  No.16833504

>>16833406

Ratchet & Clank is interesting in that it's different enough to basically be considered a different game. But only barely. Technically the original is still canon, and this is just an unreliable narrator re-telling the story. Also, there are a bunch of collectable cards that reflect on things from the entire series, so they treat it as if you are expected to have played them. It's not just trying to erase and replace the original game.

So what you get is like half of the levels or more are just the old levels with fancier graphics, which was never a problem since the original had great graphics anyway. The other half are new, but the problem is that the new levels aren't as good as the old levels, and the game doesn't include all of the old levels. They omit some of the best levels and replace them mostly with boring hallway shooters. The best new level is probably just a wide open exploration area where you hunt for crystals or something, which is in every Ratchet game except the first, so they added it here.

On the other hand, the upgrade system which was introduced in the second game is here, and that's nice. It really adds a lot of depth to the game.

Also, the story is way better in the original. But it was watered down for the movie, which was very generic, and then the game adapts the movie. I do like the element where the game is actually Qwark explaining how the movie was inaccurate, and telling the "true" story, but it still results in a much less compelling story.

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936f3a  No.16834127

>>16833406

>The 2016 version of Ratchet and Clank is a completely different experience from the original, but not in a bad way at all. It totally reimagines all the most iconic locations and moments while making it fit in better with the movie. It feels really refreshing and unique, and doesn't feel like just another rehash. The fact that it's really fun and looks amazing helps too.

It's shit and feels like an inferior version of a PS2 classic.

> Legacy erasure is a level of shittiness previously only achieved by Randy "Embezzler Extraordinaire" Bitchford with his shitty Duke Nukem World Tour port.

I fucking hate Randy.

>>16833427

It does a lot right.

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c7d062  No.16834143

File: 75636e9d0457abd⋯.webm (4.19 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Power Plant - Bionic Comm….webm)

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a63ddc  No.16834179

>>16828163

>new girls bullshit

P3 FMC was neat, bar the lack of FES stuff

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936f3a  No.16834248

>>16834179

FES really needed more love.

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