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1e3863  No.16824490[Last 50 Posts]

Sega is having a Fan Art Corner and the winning ones will be selected to be published.

The theme for the Sonic Fan Art in this "Fairytales". So have draw some good fairytailed theme Sonic art and submit. More details here.

http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/fanart/apply.html

Which games of the series do you guys prefer?

Are you into the more classic or modern styles?

Personally I'm more into modern. As much as I love Adventure and Heroes, Sonic Unleashed is one of my absolute favorites. I wish Sega can get their heads out of their asses.

It would be nice to have game with multiple characters and have Sonic levels Boost ala Unleashed Daytime, Knuckles levels be brawling and exploration and Tails levels as airplane rail shooters. But that's never going to happen.

There are rumors of Iizuka wanting to remake adventure. But so far 2021 will be the next big Sonic game, whatever it is.

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038664  No.16824511

>Modern style

Like you said, the ensemble type of games are not bad but have a really fun story and characters. Sonic Unleashed half perfected the gameplay, it's odd how SEGA has made multiple great games in their own genres like Daytona USA, Space Harrier, Virtua Fighter although most of it was made by AM2, they can't even make a good driving section, make knuckles actually fun to play, make random shit like that even enjoyable.

I hate how Sonic X butchers the voice and story of Gamma, that infuriates me

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1ef3ad  No.16824516

File: 3e81931e0b7d25e⋯.jpg (53.55 KB, 340x480, 17:24, cover.jpg)

only good sonic game, change my mind.

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1e3863  No.16824519

>>16824511

I personally liked the Werehog levels and if tweaked they would have been perfect.

They try to design the Knuckles levels using the Werehog as inspiration with brawling and more emphasis on level exploration.

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1e3863  No.16824521

>>16824519

>They try

*They Should try

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ba9062  No.16824530

>>16824490

>The theme for the Sonic Fan Art in this "Fairytales".

I thought they gave up on that after Secret Rings and Black Knight didn't work out.

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1e3863  No.16824542

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>>16824530

It's just the theme for this fan art corner. Sometimes the fan art corner will do a different theme whenever it's up.

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3920ea  No.16824545

>>16824516

It's actually awful even as just porn

>Levels last forever

>Only way of getting porn is losing

>Mechanics are fucking shit

>Gay shota shit

The art is good, sure, but if the game it's attached to is so awful, then just watch porn or play better games, or both.

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d1f17a  No.16824547

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>>16824490

A Sonic art contest from Sega? I shall inform Chris Chan.

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00f26c  No.16824573

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>>16824490

>Liking any modern Sonic shit after Heroes outside of Generations

Faggot, only the music will ever be good

>>16824547

IT'S CHRISTINE SHITLORD

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e1e64b  No.16824588

>>16824542

i'm positive secret rings and black knight would've been better if they got rid of the auto walking and allowed controlled movement and the gimmicky motion shit

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038664  No.16824589

>>16824588

I heard that you have to get an unlockable that changes the control scheme in Secret Rings or Black Knight, can't remember exactly

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e1e64b  No.16824590

>>16824588

fuck i meant got rid of the gimmicky shit aswell

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50edbf  No.16824594

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>>16824573

>the music

I didn't even bother pirating Heroes but Infinite's theme is a huge guilty pleasure. Shitty video game music with lyrics is my biggest weakness.

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912da0  No.16824683

>>16824511

Imagine how they'd ruin his voice nowadays.

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d0189d  No.16824690

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>>16824490

>you will never see all the wholesome spergling scribbles that don't make the cut

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00f26c  No.16824750

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00f26c  No.16824751

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>>16824690

Be careful with what you wish for

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1e3863  No.16824757

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>>16824751

Penders is pretty much an in-fandom meme at this point.

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8384af  No.16824765

File: c592051b4769caf⋯.png (1.55 MB, 1966x1966, 1:1, HighA.png)

Made this from scratch recently without knowing about the contest, might sign up for it now.

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9300e4  No.16824788

>>16824683

>Imagine how they'd ruin his voice nowadays.

It sounded pretty good in Team Sonic Racing, though he only has about 1 line in it.

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8a26e6  No.16824808

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>>16824690

>you will never see Sally and Bunnie ever again

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9300e4  No.16824814

>>16824808

>You will never see the cancerous comic book characters ever again.

And nothing of value was lost.

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4f3276  No.16824819

>>16824808

>Sega has made it verboten to reference any of the Archie characters

That's kind of sad, someone put effort into coming up with those designs.

>>16824814

Eh, the Archie comics Sonic was always its own thing, The Japanese never had any reference for Mobius, Dr. Robotnik, or any of the other characters. Hell, outside of Sally & Bunny, for obvious reasons, I don't think many of the Archie characters are even that well remembered by Americans. When was the last time people were clamoring for Rotor or Antoine? Excepting the autistic like Tamers 12345 and his love for obscure Sonic Underground characters.

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8a4b24  No.16824831

>>16824819

Robotnik was retconned into being his name wasn't it? When they merged the canon.

Or was that west only.

I don't think any of the cartoon characters besides Sally have any form of mass exposure.

Bunnie is popular in places that usually have general knowledge of all that group.

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663d06  No.16824834

>>16824808

tbh sally never looked like she really fit as a sonic character

neither did antoine

something was missing from them

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eb9a5e  No.16824839

>>16824765

I like the jeans jacket.

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b07218  No.16824861

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I can't wait until the movie is done so that we can move on to more interesting stuff.

>>16824834

I think after the redesigns they started looking actually good, specially Antoine.

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9300e4  No.16824865

>>16824819

> I don't think many of the Archie characters are even that well remembered by Americans.

>>16824831

>Robotnik was retconned into being his name wasn't it?

Only real comment they've made on it iirc is "Oh, nobody calls me that anymore" in generations.

>>16824861

Yeah, the final redesigns definitely looked more Sonic, and certainly much better than the old all pink design Sally initially had.

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3cfc26  No.16824882

>>16824547

Sonic and Pikachu have appeared in multiple games together already, why won't they just make Sonichu canon already? Oh I forgot this is the same SEGA that can't even get his arm color right, silly me.

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1e3863  No.16824885

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>>16824819

>>16824865

It's officially Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik now.

The name and Sonic's love of chilidogs were the only western things merged into the Japanese established canon.

However Robotnik doesn't get referenced as a name anymore, it practically phazed out of use after Shadow the Hedgehog and only came back for Generations for one line of dialogue.

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13ba70  No.16824914

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>everyone shitting on sonic archie comics

You mother fuckers don't know what fun is. I would say this crossover is worth a read in pdf form at the very least. The Wily/Robotnik interactions are reason enough to give it a read.

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c2480e  No.16824917

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>>16824914

<Enjoying autistic cross-overs with terrible writing

Do you enjoy eating shit?

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3cfc26  No.16824919

>>16824914

thought they lynched them for a moment

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13ba70  No.16824920

>>16824917

>Do you enjoy eating shit

Well I do play video games. :^)

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00f26c  No.16824931

>>16824914

They went from small decent contained fun stories to capeshit.

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2f093e  No.16824932

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00f26c  No.16824957

File: 9af0c8c603323fc⋯.gif (2.62 MB, 498x270, 83:45, tenor.gif)

>>16824932

>Sonic Heroes was 17 years ago

>Sonic Adventure was 22 years ago

>Original Sonic was 29 years ago

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1e3863  No.16824966

>>16824957

Reminder that our perception of time changes as we get older. As kids, a month is almost forever.

As old men, years pass by like seconds.

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9300e4  No.16824968

>>16824914

>You mother fuckers don't know what fun is

Is fun reading a comic where Sonic get cucked by the frenchie and desperately crying like a bitch? Or is it the one where Sally and some fucking AI act like lesbians.

Swear to god i had terrible luck with the comics.

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7d9c59  No.16824995

File: 66a756e4716a4f4⋯.png (1.01 MB, 600x710, 60:71, 66a756e4716a4f474500828093….png)

>>16824968

>reading the 90s autism magnet that was the sonic comic

You might as well read Penders' run while you are at it.

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8a4b24  No.16825001

>>16824995

Sonic getting cucked was Penders.

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8a4b24  No.16825006

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>>16825001

Forgot Image.

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1e3863  No.16825010

>>16825001

>Sonic looks in horror as his girl Amy was fucking Penders on his bed.

No matter how fast Sonic can run, he can't run from that pain.

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cef990  No.16825011

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>>16825006

>>16825001

Imagine if he actually did it.

>Be poor furry in the 90s

>Obsessed with Sonic but no money

>You work hard to finally buy some merch

>You can only buy a comic

>You did it, it's official sonic merch

>It's about Sonic getting cucked

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1e3863  No.16825013

>>16825011

Good thing Sally isn't canon and never existed.

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9300e4  No.16825015

>>16824995

I have zero interest in comics in general, only reason i got that one initially was because it was 4 bucks and i knew nothing about SATAM or the comic. Only reason i ended up getting the Lesbian fanfic issue was because of faggots on /v/ saying that the comic was much better after penders left.

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2f093e  No.16825018

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>>16824957

good times

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c2480e  No.16825026

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>>16825018

Shame the Adventure games were buggy and shit along with being a reason why furfags flock to Sonikkuuu.

>>16824932

Levels are way too long and you have to beat the game 4 times to get the true ending.

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cef990  No.16825029

>>16825026

>SA/SA2

>Buggy

This is the same people who meme'd '06 to oblivion. I'm not saying that they don't have bugs, but you can finish the game no problem without encountering a single bug, and I'm not even talking about revisions, some time ago I finished the original SA in an emulator with no problem at all.

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9300e4  No.16825034

>>16825029

Adventure 2 is one thing, but i remember the first time i played Adventure 1 i clipped through one of the Ramps in the first fucking level just from playing normally.

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cef990  No.16825039

>>16825034

Emerald Coast is one of my favorite Sonic levels, anon, and I swear something like that have never happened despite sometimes playing SA just to play Emerald Coast. The worst thing that have ever happened to me is forgetting how the controls force you to keep pressing forward despite the camera facing somewhere else and dying for that.

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8a26e6  No.16825784

>>16825026

>>16825018

I never played the first Sonic Adventure. How does it compare to the second game?

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4581fa  No.16825820

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>>16825015

You got bamboozled anon, just read the worlds collide event and call it a day. At most I would say give the megaman comic a read if you liked the crossover but if you hate yourself or if you are an austic furfag then you could try the modern sonic archie comic but I would pass on that if I were you.

>sonic comic is still ongoing

>the megaman archie died at around the story of MM5 thus proving good things cannot surive in this timeline

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bb1222  No.16825879

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>>16825784

Somewhat bigger and more ambitious in scope save for the lack of non chao multiplayer and over all less refined. The animations are noticeably more janky, voice acting’s more stilted, and it’s very experimental with Amy and Big having their own gameplay styles and stories that were cut in the sequel. Each of the six characters have their own campaigns along with the last story in addition to having 3 hub worlds. Mission Mode added in SADX doesn’t follow a uniform template that Heroes and SA2 do and are accessed through the Adventure Fields/ hub worlds. Sonic’s got less moves with an OP spin dash, levels less focused on constant speed but still automated in places, and the light speed dash must revved up just like the light attack rather than being instant in the sequel. I think besides the music variation and somewhat less gritty art that’s what I could think of off the top of my head to put it shortly.

>>16824932

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92236c  No.16825901

File: 3c26e779646c486⋯.webm (13.31 MB, 800x450, 16:9, Risk of Rain 2 fast_Sub_0….webm)

Only good thing to come out of this autistic shitfest of a franchise is this song.

And fat bat tats

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663d06  No.16825985

>>16825784

sonic adventure had a good atmosphere on it

its not the same on the gamecube

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31d476  No.16826149

File: ef4bdc433bcfa04⋯.mp4 (6.53 MB, 960x720, 4:3, SonicHasSomethingToSay.mp4)

>>16824490

>Fairytale theme

If this is a hint we'll get another Storybook game, idk what to think. On one hand, it'd be nice to see Sonic Team actually try something new with the character for the first time in over a decade. On the other hand, Black Knight was the only decent Storybook game, and thats being very generous (best tone, writing, and ending in the series imo).

>Which games of the series do you guys prefer?

Generally, I enjoy all the mainline titles up to Unleashed yes, I found some redeemable qualities in 06 and Shadow, fight me. Colors and onward all share a feeling of nostalgia pandering and overall loss of identity. Current Sonic exists to remind people that he used to be cool, rather than showing that he still is cool.

>Are you into the more classic or modern styles?

Which do you consider Adventure style to be? SA1/2 imo have the absolute best potential for 3D Sonic gameplay.

>Sonic Unleashed is one of my absolute favorites

You know, I've been seeing this sentiment thrown around a lot lately. I had a lot of fun with the game, but for years people only considered it a 6/10 at best. I wonder if it has something to do with nostalgia effect from growing up with the game, though I don't deny the game's quality and merits.

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1e3863  No.16826180

>>16826149

>If this is a hint we'll get another Storybook game, idk what to think.

It's just a fun theme for the current art corner.

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038664  No.16826183

>>16826149

>>16826180

the storybook games were suppose to be a trilogy, i still want that third game damn it

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42133b  No.16826193

>>16824966

That doesn't make it any better man.

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e9d01b  No.16826364

>>16824968

IDW comic is way better than the Archie ones.

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8a4b24  No.16826391

>>16826149

I'd imagine the unleashed sentiment comes from how many trash modern titles came after it, its merits shine quite a bit when you have mostly bland garbage after it.

Colors is absolutely worse than it, the actual level design for that game is amazingly bad. Its also just bland from most standpoints.

>>16826364

While i do agree, considering IDWs history i have a bad feeling about its future.

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31d476  No.16826397

File: 013034a603355b2⋯.jpg (296.19 KB, 1054x1600, 527:800, s-l1600.jpg)

>>16826180

That makes the most sense, though it is still surprising considering the theme's history with the series.

>>16826183

I do too, but every executive at Sega needs a purge before that can happen. Otherwise, it'd just be your average shitty plot with "LOOK GUYS WE'RE SELF AWARE/HAHA MEMES" tier writing. The Storybook games' best aspect was the story, and Sonic Team's proven since Colors that they are unable to write even if their lives depended on it. Now, if they recruited the original writers? Then we'd have something to hope for and speculate on.

>>16826364

This cannot be emphasized enough. The IDW comic, while still all sorts of autistic, has much more going for it than the Archie comic, and it isn't bloated with odd and unnecessary comic-only characters (that said, the ones that do appear I actually really enjoy. Whisper and Tangle are a very fun duo, and the new villains are pretty entertaining in their own right).

The current saga's premise reads like a fanfic robot-zombie virus that infects almost the entire population, including Sonic, but the execution of it is actually really top-notch. The first saga is a slow read, but once the current one hits, it really starts rolling. I heard Cream's supposed to be killed off in the next issue too

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1e3863  No.16826412

Sonic Forces seems disappointing. The story tried to make it a big and epic battle, but fell flat on its face. I don't get a sense of urgency when playing, it feels like Eggman was just having a Tuesday takeover than anything serious.

When I played the Adventure Games, 06 and Sonic Unleashed, I felt the urgency in those games as something big was going to happen and Unleashed was the best at it.

Worst is how Forces treated Egg Dragoon, they didn't use its proper boss theme from the last two games either.

Music isn't bad, but it's not as good as the OSTs from the previous installments. I don't catch myself jamming to Forces OST like I do 06, Colors or Unleash.

The gameplay itself leaves a lot to be desired.

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31d476  No.16826416

File: 553c059b2f7224c⋯.jpg (46.39 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Martha.jpg)

>>16826412

I unironically derive more enjoyment from Sonic 06 than Sonic Forces. There isn't a single thing about Forces that's worth writing home about. It feels like a soulless imitation of Sonic rather than the real thing. This is a minor nitpick but it also pisses me off how they tried to make the character models resemble the "classic" appearances (i.e. Sonic's blue is paler and has shorter quills, Tails' legs are like a foot shorter).

>>16826391

>I'd imagine the unleashed sentiment comes from how many trash modern titles came after it, its merits shine quite a bit when you have mostly bland garbage after it.

It just hit me that we've yet to have another Sonic game with polish and a budget the size of Unleashed, a game that came out in '08, wew lad

>Colors is absolutely worse than it, the actual level design for that game is amazingly bad. Its also just bland from most standpoints.

Agreed, fuck Colors. I can't understand how people can praise it yet despise Unleashed when it clearly excelled in everything Colors did wrong.

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1e3863  No.16826417

>>16826397

SEGA has put a new mandate on how their characters in comics should be represented.

One of those mandates is that Sonic characters don't have relatives aside from what SEGA themselves have established.

Sonic is never allowed to cry. Sonic is never to be in a romantic relationship. Amy must love Sonic and chase him, but they must not be allowed to date so her love is one sided.

There's more, but this mandate is made after a fallout with Penders which caused SEGA to see what the fuck Archie was doing with their characters.

>>16826416

Funny is that 06 could have been a good game given the time. Hell, fans can actually fix the faults of 06 through mods of the game was on PC.

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31d476  No.16826426

>>16826417

Yeah, I've been aware of the mandate. Ever since some Sega employee saw a comic cover of Sonic crying over getting cucked, they pulled out the whip.

>Hell, fans can actually fix the faults of 06 through mods of the game was on PC.

I played a demo of the fangame some time ago. I was really impressed that they managed to turn it into an actually fun experience and even implemented some missing content from the final build of the game (i.e. proper transitions for switching characters mid-stage). That said, the camera felt even worse than the original game, though that may have just been from blur effects.

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1e3863  No.16826438

File: 1581fe2e3267b7b⋯.jpg (852.09 KB, 4000x4000, 1:1, wy3fhhcl2vb41.jpg)

>>16826426

>Ever since some Sega employee saw a comic cover of Sonic crying over getting cucked, they pulled out the whip.

Comic fans bitched about the mandate, but I find it hilarious. Imagine cucking Sonic to the point of Sonic Team sending someone to choke the writer?

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5542ef  No.16826443

File: 567f47996440ee2⋯.png (98.86 KB, 257x198, 257:198, thatskindahot.png)

>>16826438

>super amy's face

>super amy

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31d476  No.16826452

File: 0117446f3ba36f8⋯.png (150.35 KB, 680x383, 680:383, KnucklesHG.png)

>>16826438

I'm typically opposed to limiting how much a writing team is allowed to actually do/be creative with, but Archie got everything it deserved and some. I think there was an arc of Sonic going on numerous dates with random female characters, even cucking Tails of two of his love interests. This builds up over time until Tails erupts at Sonic and they suddenly become enemies or some shit.

>Super Amy

You'd think after her characterization in the Adventure games and even 06 that Super Amy was bound to happen at some point. Though she was never anywhere close to Sonic's level, they established that she could at least be independent and self-reliant like Tails. For a while she degenerated into useless-stalker post-Heroes, and now her only role is a blank-slate support character with little personality who reminds the player of the setting's current status. Who the fuck's writing this series, and why are they still being paid?

>>16826443

Blaze is still best girl

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6ed17e  No.16826456

>>16826443

How's that old saw go? Don't stick your dick in crazy?

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5542ef  No.16826457

>>16826452

you cant give amy a super form because she's a fucking nympho

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854ed2  No.16826464

Regarding writing in the Sonic games, aren't they still the guys who did Madworld and Happy Tree Friends or some shit? Or have they been replaced, like all the level designers except one guy who worked on Lost World? No I'm not joking, check Sonic Forces' staff. The only level designers are some guy who's first game was Lost World and two newbies. The engine is also based off Lost World's instead of Generation's, which is why the game controls like garbage a lot of the time. Sonic Team is basically nonexistent at this point, if they were ever real in the first place.

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1e3863  No.16826466

>>16826464

Might as well outsource the games to Westerners like they did Mania.

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d2342e  No.16826468

>>16824750

>First pic

Who is that echidna semen demon?

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854ed2  No.16826471

>>16826466

I could probably direct a 3D Sonic game. My qualifications are I've never played a 3D Sonic game in my life, but understand how Sonic should play. We have the technology, physics and rendering have caught up to the scale a Sonic game needs to work in 3D. More or less anyway, if single level fan demos are any indication.

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8a4b24  No.16826473

>>16826468

Penders now title character lara su im quite sure.

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d2342e  No.16826476

File: f1813e4e7af5987⋯.jpg (25.27 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, richard kuta vid.jpg)

>>16824819

> When was the last time people were clamoring for Archie Sonic characters?

Richard Kuta (Sonmanic/AKnotholeResident) is still clamoring for them to appear in the Sonic movie or at least the sequel on his twitter,

https://twitter.com/AThirstyBottle

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31d476  No.16826477

>>16826468

Lien-Da. Character-wise she's decent, but I never cared enough to learn more about her in the comics back when I read the original Archie run. Note that since Penders now owns her character she looks like a CWC character. Here's the wiki article if you want to delve into autism: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Lien-Da

>>16826471

>I've never played a 3D Sonic game in my life, but understand how Sonic should play

>More or less anyway, if single level fan demos are any indication

I can't tell if you're being ironic considering every fucking fan-dev has this same mindset.

>oh dude, just uh make him really REALLY fast and give him pinball physics

>level design doesn't matter, just toss in some slopes

>remember how in Sonic Adventure you could spam spindash and do some crazy shit? Haha lets do that but without any thought put into it

>oh, and remove the homing attack. Despite it being created specifically to help with landing attacks in the 3D space, it wasn't in the games I grew up with so scratch it entirely

>Why hasn't SEGA hired me yet??

>>16826464

I think they're still on-board unfortunately, and yes they haven't improved at all. I'm not sure if they actually write the plots or if they just handle the English dialogue.

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b01b13  No.16826478

File: 659c7af282ffa4f⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1274x684, 637:342, Tornado-1.PNG)

File: 8b1fdfdf4431e44⋯.png (556.52 KB, 1687x828, 1687:828, Tornado.png)

File: 23f43dc7ddf950d⋯.png (1.89 MB, 1782x1926, 99:107, Sa2btailsw.png)

I'm replaying unleashed for the first time since it came out, and you can see how any effort in continuity went down the shitter after Yuji Naka left Sonic team, and 06 was released to it's negative reception. Unleashed at least makes up for it in it's other aspects so the writing be bar-bones isn't as big of an issue, but…

<Tails: my Tornado-1

I had a conniption over this

>A: The Tornado is Sonic's Plane, Tails made the Tornado 2

>B: if this is some kind of new canon where Adventure never happened, then why the fuck call it the Tornado-1

>C: The plane has Tornado 3 written on the side, why the fuck is it called the Tornado-1

>D: The Tornado 3 was what Tails had in Sonic Adventure 2, so That fucking plane is actually the Tornado-4

Nothing about this plane's name works

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31d476  No.16826482

File: 7a0d6d81744f8a0⋯.jpg (277.4 KB, 2668x1500, 667:375, ChaosLoss.jpg)

>>16826478

Wew, I remember being confused over the naming when the game first came out, but I never realized how much of a clusterfuck the Tornado's name is. I think Sonic Team just stopped caring and said "Look its the plane from Sonic 2, please don't ask questions."

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d2342e  No.16826486

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>>16824885

The movie is bringing the name back though at one point, Sonic does start callimng him Eggman.

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b01b13  No.16826488

File: 46b08dbf6245560⋯.png (184.15 KB, 573x342, 191:114, lost world.png)

>>16826482

The best part is the actual Original Tornado shows up in Sonic Lost world

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854ed2  No.16826490

>>16826477

>oh dude, just uh make him really REALLY fast and give him pinball physics

Fast is arguable, but the ball is a super important part of Sonic's moveset that is completely missing in the later games. Sonic 1 emphasizes this most with the lack of a spin dash.

>level design doesn't matter, just toss in some slopes

No I think Sonic 2 isn't very good, thank you very much.

>remember how in Sonic Adventure you could spam spindash and do some crazy shit? Haha lets do that but without any thought put into it

I don't know shit about Adventure but that sounds retarded. Like, the thing about the spin dash was you needed to be completely stopped, and only Mania (and I guess the Sonic 3 beta) had a logical decision in making it chargeable in the air for when you land.

>oh, and remove the homing attack. Despite it being created specifically to help with landing attacks in the 3D space, it wasn't in the games I grew up with so scratch it entirely

Here's a wild fucking concept, why not bring back the W-Spin Attack (or Insta Sheild for you people stuck with the localization)? It gave Sonic a bigger hitbox when attacking in the air and doesn't murder momentum. I don't really have a problem with the homing attack beyond the momentum killing thing, but I do prefer the idea of the spinny attack. You know, lots of characters have it. Crash Bandicoot, Jak, fucking Mario in his most recent game. Shit works.

I was half joking before, but what I'm trying to get at is Adventure might be the best attempt at 3D Sonic so far, but it's still not great. And the only reason I mention fan demos is because I'm pretty sure most of them don't cheat on the loops and slopes, as opposed to some Sonic games.

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9300e4  No.16826500

>>16826476

>Richard Kuta

You mean the faggot who thinks he's a baby and bitched about Sonic's eyes being green

>>16826464

>Sonic Team is basically nonexistent at this point, if they were ever real in the first place.

Sonic team is a misnomer. They're more like the Puyo team, or Arle team.

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8a4b24  No.16826503

>>16826477

Most fan demos for 3D engines that aren't just clones of actual 3D sonics are engine showcases, no shit they lack good level design.

And yes easy to make things like adventure clonesdue to resources in regards it obviously will suffer from average fangame issues.

>>16826490

The prototype drop dash is an entirely different beast to the mania one, its not something you decide in the air; its a premeditated move from the beginning of your jump.

Its pretty hard to even do from a moving position in the first place. Its quite a bit closer to an alt spin dash for the average person.

The actual reason why the homing attack was needed for adventures onwards was because the physics in all those games are quite off anyway.

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1e3863  No.16826504

>>16826471

>I could probably direct a 3D Sonic game.

>My qualifications are I've never played a 3D Sonic game in my life

What the fuck is a Sonic?

>>16826476

I haven't heard that name in years. Fucker seemed to suddenly disappeared from the Net or at least just got out of the spotlight.

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854ed2  No.16826507

>>16826503

Thinking about it, I actually think it would be cool to have a move like the W-Spin Attack work on the ground. Call it the Sonic Boom or something. Maybe shields or Whips can modify the properties of that as well, give some interesting movement options. Again, even the homing attack could be useful if it tied in better to how you actually move. You zoom off in a direction, hit an enemy, then kinda stop. Even in the first fucking Sonic game how you bounced of an enemy was a factor of your momentum and shit.

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663d06  No.16826508

>>16826416

whats this about robotnik having had a wife?

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1e3863  No.16826514

File: 5cd36a69a7eac34⋯.webm (6.42 MB, 360x360, 1:1, eggman pisses on the moon.webm)

>>16826508

>whats this about robotnik having had a wife?

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d2342e  No.16826516

File: 98c6af2ed09a951⋯.jpg (42.3 KB, 512x384, 4:3, Sonmanic_photoshop_party.jpg)

>>16826500

>You mean the faggot who thinks he's a baby and bitched about Sonic's eyes being green?

The very same!

>>16826504

He mostly keeps to himself nowadays.

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d2342e  No.16826519

File: 68a4e445630e3b8⋯.png (812.17 KB, 720x540, 4:3, vlcsnap-2017-01-09-18h20m2….png)

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1e3863  No.16826523

File: b877132e2501baa⋯.png (433.82 KB, 600x680, 15:17, 700.png)

>>16826519

Looks like a good girl to get pissed on.

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31d476  No.16826531

File: 3820e730d3d4946⋯.gif (1.13 MB, 400x304, 25:19, promotion_sticker.gif)

>>16826490

>Fast is arguable, but the ball is a super important part of Sonic's moveset that is completely missing in the later games. Sonic 1 emphasizes this most with the lack of a spin dash.

I agree the ball's important, but I think its difficult to implement with how 3D Sonic stages are designed, and this includes Adventure up to even Forces. Its impressive to see fandevs pull it off, but I've yet to see it implemented in an actual level or course where I was satisified with its implementation.

>No I think Sonic 2 isn't very good, thank you very much.

>Sonic 2 isn't very good

Oh, you're one of those fags.

>I don't know shit about Adventure but that sounds retarded. Like, the thing about the spin dash was you needed to be completely stopped, and only Mania (and I guess the Sonic 3 beta) had a logical decision in making it chargeable in the air for when you land.

You still have to be stopped in the Adventure games to actually do it, but instead of mashing the button to rev it up, you only need to hold the button. It can rocket you around the stage, so a lot of retards who don't know how to play the game like to spam this, die, and blame the game. If you understand the level design, the spindash is used for accessing shortcuts in Sonic's stages. Overall, using it goes by much faster, though its ruined somewhat in SA2 since you have to hold the button even longer. Earlier, I was exaggerating how a lot of people never really understood how the spindash worked in SA1.

>Here's a wild fucking concept, why not bring back the W-Spin Attack (or Insta Sheild for you people stuck with the localization)? It gave Sonic a bigger hitbox when attacking in the air and doesn't murder momentum.

Its pointless with the homing attack, unless it was given to someone like Tails or Knuckles (and Tails did get a ground version similar to what you're describing in Adventure), speaking of:

>I don't really have a problem with the homing attack beyond the momentum killing thing

This only became a thing in 06 onwards. The Adventure games always reserved your momentum, and it could be used to help you instantly regain some momentum in tight spaces.

>>16826508

Its a reference to a fandub parody of SA2 that came out some years ago. I thought it was actually pretty funny, but I found out the channel owner is a massive tranny.

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00f26c  No.16826537

File: a83286fee9e56af⋯.jpg (1.77 MB, 3737x2415, 3737:2415, 2013-Comic-Con-Day-4-005.jpg)

Imagine waking up in your bed next to this

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00f26c  No.16826546

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

It's time

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854ed2  No.16826548

>>16826531

Yeah, it really comes down to level design. And yeah I'm a Sonic 3 fag, sue me. Most of the time I've seen people die in Adventure is when they hold forward on one of the first loops of the game. Logical choice, retarded outcome. I know it was hard to do 3D at the time, and like I said Adventure was probably the best they could do for the time, with 5 other characters, and to prevent the Dreamcast from fucking dying. And I was suggesting a replacement for the homing attack, although I feel like if we're talking character that fits Silver or Blaze more. Also don't you fucking lie, nothing worthwhile is transferred over when you homing attack, it just basically shoots you straight up unless you attack again, and if jumping in the air and dashing is one of your best options what's the fucking point of running.

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8ce2d6  No.16826552

>>16826546

Tails wore it better

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1e3863  No.16826558

>>16826552

Tails is not for gay sexual.

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854ed2  No.16826562

File: 8e0c2c75e64439b⋯.webm (14.69 MB, 720x540, 4:3, Skydiving!.webm)

>>16826558

>>16826552

Both of you keep your hands off my son

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31d476  No.16826567

>>16826552

Fag

>>16826548

>Also don't you fucking lie, nothing worthwhile is transferred over when you homing attack, it just basically shoots you straight up unless you attack again, and if jumping in the air and dashing is one of your best options what's the fucking point of running.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I DEFINITELY remember momentum being carried over at least in Adventure 2, and I was pretty sure the same happened in SA1.

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854ed2  No.16826575

>>16826567

I haven't seen much Adventure 2 footage, but from what I've seen of Adventure alone, it didn't seem to be there basically at all. Maybe everyone I watched the footage of was too retarded to think about it or too afraid to try because they didn't know if it would freak out for some reason. I'd look up a speedrun but they probably spindash out of bounds to complete the level, don't have time to do homing attack chains.

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c87e82  No.16826576

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d2342e  No.16826583

File: e4a416cf6dc275b⋯.jpg (73.37 KB, 830x1024, 415:512, amy rouge busty.jpg)

File: 496ecd507502324⋯.jpg (182.73 KB, 1258x1966, 629:983, amyrouge captaintaco.jpg)

File: 7381f1457e02a8c⋯.png (398.36 KB, 2880x2880, 1:1, amyrouge jewels.png)

File: 456db5a9e9b5acc⋯.jpg (219.55 KB, 1394x1981, 1394:1981, amyrouge revealing.jpg)

File: 3d4a3b7568a7d8f⋯.jpg (73.19 KB, 800x1280, 5:8, amyrouge.jpg)

>>16826546

Why is she so perfect guys?

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1e3863  No.16826584

>>16826575

Just play adventure 2. Better yet, lay Sonic Unleashed Daytime levels.

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8a4b24  No.16826586

>>16826584

Ah yes, the ultimate way to check how homing attack works in adventure; playing unleashed.

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56d70a  No.16826590

>>16826477

>>16826468

gotta say, that good ol' Kenneth Pedersen got a lot of "fans" that would like to see him burn for killing two fandoms

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1e3863  No.16826598

File: 6ebea2dbbf88a08⋯.jpeg (44.88 KB, 351x500, 351:500, 56253_original_f4e3e380-f….jpeg)

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8a4b24  No.16826603

>>16826598

Adventure 3 was with us all along.

Anyway judging by a quick playtest i don't think homing attack maintains jack. It gives you some base momentum but its pretty clearly a set amount you just get out of it.

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8ce2d6  No.16826611

File: 6bf7b19a96fba13⋯.png (190.41 KB, 499x699, 499:699, 1573637220335.png)

>>16826558

What about Chao (M)?

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b4aa84  No.16826619

>>16824589

Not exactly. Secret Rings had a level up mechanic that did things like improve Sonic's movement speed and responsiveness. You never could fix the shitty control scheme. And the motion control in Black Knight was honestly inoffensive. It was basically the exact same motion controls Twilight Princess had.

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976899  No.16826676

>>16826508

I wonder who he knocked up since Eggman Nega is his future grandson after the Rush retcon.

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854ed2  No.16826684

File: 434ab18bf761296⋯.jpg (68.93 KB, 483x431, 483:431, male feminists.jpg)

>>16826676

Given the Rivals games have never been released in Japan, I'm not sure they're canon. The newest Sonic Racing game implies that Sonic remembers the events of Sonic 06 while Silver doesn't (because he's a totally different Silver) and Rivals has Sonic not knowing who Silver is apparently. We could argue about where the games are set in the timeline (and shit's fucked, did you know Sonic 4 Episode 2's cliffhanger sets up Sonic the Fighters fairly nicely?) but Eggman Nega and indeed Blaze are fucked up characters canon wise. Arguments can be made about how the events of Sonic 06 created an alternate universe where Blaze was re-incarnated but we'll never know because Blaze never meets Sonic directly in 06, and barely recognizes him in the one scene she does see him.

Also Eggman is a male feminist, he's going to die a virgin.

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e01aff  No.16826695

>>16826684

The whole feminist portion was always a localization change because it originally said womanizer.

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ca92c0  No.16826698

>>16824490

Why the FUCK did they even bother with the Hedgehog 2 engine? Forces plays like a clunky piece of shit for the segments that aren't QTEs. Would it have killed them to make something in the same engine as Sonic Generations? They had the ball there for a second but if there's one thing SEGA is good at is dropping the fucking ball.

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d7400a  No.16826701

>>16826500

To be fair, Sonic Team in a technically way has always been fired in some capacity with the exception of lizuka and a few key members like Senoue or Uekawa. Most team members ranging from level designers, programmers, artists, and a few gig musicians like Naganuma or Ogata have joined and left. Hell the levels in Forces were made by two newfags and a Lost World level designer. Thus Sonic Team has never been consistent and thats also why i think the story continuity just jumps around from place to place is exactly because members keep joining and then leaving for other projects outside of Sonic Team or SEGA

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b01b13  No.16826702

File: 63337fc12742b08⋯.png (642.97 KB, 1134x1080, 21:20, Damn Sonic drives me to dr….png)

File: 419fd2b09f6a905⋯.webm (738.63 KB, 640x480, 4:3, this is not fun.webm)

I just don't fucking get it, People in this thread are talking about how much they enjoy Unleashed, enough Sonic fans have demanded Unleashed enough that it go re-released on Xbone. Everyone talks about how great the day time stages are…

I'm playing Unleashed right now and I borderline Fucking hate it, It pissed me off back in 2008 and it's pissing me off in the exact same way now, It's not just the werehog, if anything the werehog is the least of the problem for me it's just meh jank God of War. it's The Day time stages I just don't understand why people think their so great aside from the spectacle of going so fast, I'm boosting off fucking turns constantly, you go so fast you can't fucking react to anything the first time, and you'll only hit any short cuts though pure memorization, There is no indication when I should and shouldn't be boosting, the game changes from 3d to 2d so frequently I can't tell when something is a turn i'm meant to control, or it's actually a 2d path. Nothing about how this boost gameplay functions with the level design is intuitive, Genrations was far too easy to S rank but Unleashed just feel like unfair bullshit. Arid Sands Act 1 has a speed booster that just sends me off the turn to my death, it did that like 4 times, I had to jump over it, Skyscraper Scamper act 1 has turn you just can't make at highspeeds since the Drift is useless, I had to slow down to a crawl, I'v done the side step on when grinding before I hit the spikes but Sonic momment has me hit them anyway before the animation is done.

I'v gotten 100% in Adventure 1 & 2, Heroes, Shadow, Generations, Lost World, Forces, I just got done 100%ing fucking Sonic 06 and enjoyed it. Those games varied in quality But I never felt like deaths weren't my fault this much, 9 times out of 10 when I die in Unleashed Day time I'm thinking how the fuck was I meant to react to that! I keep waiting for this game to click into place so I can enjoy it, but It's infuriating!

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854ed2  No.16826704

>>16826698

I mentioned this earlier, but it's actually based off the Lost World engine. I think the "Hedgehog Engine" is just a rendering engine or some shit. Or it's all bullshit marketing. Point is they tried to make Sonic Generations out of Mario 3D World and it ended about as well as you could expect. Look up the staff, see who really fucked up. Maybe you'll find out that nobody was in charge of the physics at all, wouldn't fucking surprise me given that, again, three people were on level design. Let me put this into perspective. Pokemon Sword and Shield have been panned by parts of the fanbase for being rushed and unfinished, and it has 7 people that had "battle" in their job description. That's a game that has been done to death and the battle system basically set in stone after the release of Diamond and Pearl over 13 years ago. They still couldn't manage to put every move in the game, and the central gimmick of the game is a bit unbalanced. On the other hand, Sonic has never really gotten his legs in 3D, they're using an engine they never should have used, and apparently the staff straight up doesn't exist. I'm surprised it came out mediocre to shit instead of Sonic 06 or Boom.

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d7400a  No.16826707

>>16826702

Mostly because of the generations Mod. As someone whos also trying to 100% unleashed i have my qualms as well. The fact i need a fucking guide to find medals and shit, the fact that the night time platforming sucks as like ==MAZURI ACT 2 AND CHUN NAN ACT2 WITH THE FUCKING SHITTY BALANCE LEVELS. THAT GOD DAMN LUCIA SPAGONIA MISSION, THAT FUCKING WEREHOG SHAMAR MISSION. MY EXPERIENCE WITH HALF THE LEVELS CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED WITH THE WEREHOGS DEATH SCREAM BECAUSE OF HOW BULLSHIT SOME ARE. And because my fucking controller has input lag for shit like rail grinding and dash jumping.== at least some of the musics good

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ca92c0  No.16826712

File: 29b24f79e7e522c⋯.png (1.54 MB, 2876x868, 719:217, Sonic Forces's Bad Level D….png)

>>16826704

>Look up the staff, see who really fucked up

I know who fucked up, it's the retard that gets bottom billing in Lost Worlds and somehow becomes lead level designer in Forces. That and the entire level design team was cut down to less than 5 people. I'm sure you could make the physics work, but there is absolutely NO reason that classic Sonic in Forces should have controlled like shit when they essentially cut and paste him from a much better game. Forces was an unpolished mess and the worst part if you exclude that Chaos dies in a FUCKING CUTSCENE is that they squandered the custom character gimmick on that piece of shit.

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bb1222  No.16826714

File: 33f4b9f8c0f3674⋯.jpg (62.66 KB, 1024x896, 8:7, nice ears ''Amy''.jpg)

>>16826684

The Fighters was among the first of my Sonic games, actually so I was surprised when they not only made a Death Egg Mk 2 but also left it intact at Episode 2's "conclusion". After Mania it appears that if that game were ever canon to begin with it it's probably not in the "modern dimension" since the older characters like Mighty, Ray, or "Team Hooligan" apparently aren't allowed in the Sonic Team games.

I either forgot or flat out didn't know that neither of the Rivals games weren't released in Japan. Which is curious since Takashi Iizuka, current Sonic Team head directed those titles. Backbone being overseen by the then Sega Studios USA might have been the reason. Nega's Sonic Channel purportedly lists him as being from the future and Iizuka backed that claim up during a Q&A event at Sonic Boom 2012. He also said that "everyone had amnesia" in 2006.

>>16826695

The other descriptions for him in the manual imply that "feminist" as in "treating females equally" was intentional given that it also describes him as a "romanticist…self professed (supreme) gentleman" with "charms". Either that whole sentence was made up as well or the english writer was just making an ironic joke at his expense.

>>16826707

Oh yeah, Unleashed HD mapped the homing attack button to the same one as the air boost for some stupid reason. Not even the Dimps version did that, in addition to the game originally running at 30fps with dips (especially on levels like Jungle Joyride) to an unlocked framerate on the PS3 with even more atrocious drops. It was patched to alleviate this and the Generations mod gives it a bump in both the framerate and resolution department and I think a similar thing also happened on the Xbone re-release. Which coincidentally also happened to Ninja Gaiden 2; kicker is, I'd love for anyone who liked the werehog to say that to a Ninja Gaiden or DMC fan and see what happens. I also 100% finished the PS3 version last year

>>16826611

>>16826558

>>16826552

Pic somewhat related

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d7400a  No.16826717

>>16826704

speaking of lost world the first infinite battle has those springs from lost world

please work this time

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854ed2  No.16826718

>>16826714

Izuka's claims can be bullshit but unironically Sonic never becoming Hyper is arguably true, as the regular Super ending sets up Knuckle's plot with the Eggrobo. Of course that just means Hyper Knuckles can be canonical, and possibly thematically important for the character, so Izuka's fucking stupid. I can also argue about the cut of the emeralds in later games compared to how they were depicted in the classic games and how the super emeralds bridge the gap, but whatever.

>>16826717

I know so little about either game that the most spring related knowledge I have is that there's fucking invisible training wheel springs in some of Classic Sonic's stages, just in case you don't know how to jump up a ledge. Classic Sonic in Forces was a mistake, they clearly didn't have enough time to do anything good for him, and the attempts to make the physics work clearly didn't translate well to whatever fucking mess the Forces physics engine is.

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d7400a  No.16826722

File: 09989e3424e4223⋯.png (665.51 KB, 786x446, 393:223, forces.PNG)

File: e2524024b732433⋯.png (166.83 KB, 397x353, 397:353, lost world.PNG)

>>16826718

>invalid image

>invalid image

>invalid image

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b01b13  No.16826740

File: b223edd37d85483⋯.png (137.6 KB, 1186x719, 1186:719, Sonic team is retarded.PNG)

Sonic team just has no idea what they're fucking doing.

They had 4 years to make Forces. They had 4 fucking years, but spun their wheels the entire time and then made themselves rush it out by only actually developed it in 1 year. How is it they needed more then 2 years to come up with the ideas for Sonic Forces before they even start working on it?

Is Sonic team just retarded? Is Sega not giving them the resources? do they just need a new producer? does just no one over there give a shit about one of the most popular, and profitable video game character of all time?

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d7400a  No.16826743

>>16826740

explains shit like how rushed the gameplay and story was. Having three potential boss battles vanish and infinite just fucking off to nowhere not to mention how they didn't bother to make a super sonic boss and half the plot just not making any sense

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9300e4  No.16826769

>>16826718

>Of course that just means Hyper Knuckles can be canonical

Frankly, it should be. How in the fuck is Sonic gonna be the only one to ever get Super Saiyan and not the guy who was elected to fucking guard the Super dragon ball.

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8a4b24  No.16826783

>>16826704

Don't forget the best part of reusing Lost World; lost world removed a few things that the Wii U didn't like; leading forces to have small stages because of it.

The current version of the engine they used literally couldn't handle large stages without re-porting that feature.

Realistically they don't even have the earlier variants of the engines and just overwrote lost world over generations.

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ca92c0  No.16826785

File: 065f635388c456e⋯.jpg (116.27 KB, 518x396, 259:198, 1577559055414.jpg)

>>16826714

It took me a while before I realized that was Tails in drag.

>>16826718

The Sonic franchise is bigger than Izuka and his retcons are reaching J.K Rowling levels of bullshit.

>>16826740

The problem is that Sonic has become too corporate, SEGA wants to make "video games by numbers" and is currently trying to hammer out a template for 3D Sonic games with no artistic drive behind the games. The best original idea they had in a long ass time was Colors and they ran wisps into the ground by not knowing what to do with them afterwards.

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d7400a  No.16826794

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9300e4  No.16826829

>>16826785

>It took me a while before I realized that was Tails in drag.

I know right, if it wasn't for the tail, you'd think it's just Amy if she wasn't Jailbait.

>The problem is that Sonic has become too corporate, SEGA wants to make "video games by numbers"

Nah, it's been going on for far longer than that. SEGA hasn't known what the fuck to do with Sonic since before even the fucking genesis ended. There's been about 10 different flavors of 3d sonic from British isolated perspective Sonic, to the barely thought out x-treme prototypes, whatever the fuck heroes was suppose to be, REELESTIC furry fan fiction, 3D larping as 2D replete with 'funny' self deprecating humor, Super Sonic's Parkour Galaxy, endless runner nobody liked, to fucking Boost 2 Win and/or terrible nostalgia pandering. God, that's not even all of them. They've spent 25 fucking years trying to create a template, and the only one that even comes close was Adventure, and i swear to god they took all the wrong lessons out of 06, so we won't be seeing that ever again(Forcing games to come out on his birthday though). Hell, i wouldn't even be suprised if we see another Sonic-Human relationship in the new game.

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d2342e  No.16826875

File: 1e36a4e33a4e53e⋯.jpg (396.26 KB, 860x900, 43:45, eggman_be_pimpin_by_chaosc….jpg)

>>16826695

Eggman a confirmed Chad?

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97e06f  No.16827017

File: 7cd9c780276f254⋯.jpg (38.52 KB, 640x480, 4:3, eggmanprob_feature.jpg)

>>16826695

To be honest I aint gay or female but if I was a chick I would not say no to the Doc. Ugly as fuck but the dudes got an impressive ego.

You just know he has banged that bat.

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8ce2d6  No.16827023

>>16827001

>he

>breasts

Very good

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17ef7a  No.16827029

Before this thread gets overrun by degenerate furfags, whats everyones thoughts on the Sonic movie?

I promised my sisters I’d take them to watch it, and recent clips convinced me that its going to be mildly decent at best. The human characters minus Robotnik all make me want to vomit still. The OVA will always be superior.

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698bdc  No.16827048

>>16824968

>>16824995

>>16825001

>>16825006

To be fair, the guy didn't have full control of the comic as someone made it the point that the reason Sally was even marrying Evil Antoine was because he was poisoning the king. And, no closure was really made after Sonic had been missing for more than a year.

>>16826452

>I think there was an arc of Sonic going on numerous dates with random female characters, even cucking Tails of two of his love interests. This builds up over time until Tails erupts at Sonic and they suddenly become enemies or some shit.

That was just with Fiona Fox, where Tail's relationship with her IS one sided. To explain it, early in the comics, Robotnik made a robotic clone of her to trick Tails. And, Tails fell in love with the robot clone but found out she was a fake, tied up the robot, and rushed off to save Sonic. Much later on, however (Some 150 issues), Tails then encounters the real Fiona (Who is much older then the robot clone, which was de-aged for the sole purpose of tricking tales) and starts crushing hard on her. However, she has no interest in Tails, even explains this to him, but that doesn't stop Tails crushing on her. And, he doesn't actually lose interest in her until she goes full evil and joins up with Scourge. And, as far as him fighting with Sonic, IIRC, that was an entirely different issue where it dealt with Tail's parents trying to institute a coup in Knothole and Tails just let out all his pent-up feelings. Also, with Mina Mongoose (IIRC, again) she and Sonic were originally a thing, but they didn't go anywhere, and the "Future" arcs depicted that she and Tails do eventually get together.

All that being said, Penders really screwed up the comic with some really terrible bullshit, that everyone else at Archie probably wasted endless nights trying to fix into a plot that made some amount of sense.

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b306d1  No.16827072

File: 05e9bc33eee994a⋯.png (178.91 KB, 712x694, 356:347, 05e9bc33eee994a35b8f1aa4e4….png)

>>16827029

>degenerate furfags

you know you can't get enough of that shit the sonic movie is probably going to be ok. nothing groundbreaking. but it will be a fun little memory for the new generation before they delve deep into the porn.

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31d476  No.16827102

File: 66b5da50778c862⋯.jpg (97.42 KB, 959x712, 959:712, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>16827072

>you know you can't get enough of that shit

>fun little memory for the new generation before they delve deep into the porn

Speak for yourself you wrinkled-dick with a limp wrist. Every Sonic thread gets overrun with you porn addicts. How many pairs of socks have you gone through already?

>>16827048

Oh wew, I guess I misremembered all that entirely. Its been so long since I read Archie that plots pre-reboot/Genesis Wave are all lost on me.

>>16826740

>4 years to make a game

>reputation for the series has been going downhill for years

>everything is banking on this game taking off

>spend most of that time making a shoddy engine that still pales in comparison to the engine it was made to be a successor to

>spend 1 year on the actual game

>its shit

>actually really shit

>so shit people aren't even mad, just collectively sigh and turn the other direction

>the 2D side-game released alongside it was well liked

>start using the 2D game as a crutch to hide how horrendous the series has become

Bravo Sonic Team, bravo Izuka. When's Yuji Naka taking back control?

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e612e2  No.16827114

>>16827102

>When's Yuji Naka taking back control?

He was such an egotistical faggot that he got butthurt over Sega Technical Institute using his NiGHTS engine to make their broken game work which helped fuck Sega over during the Saturn era.

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29da91  No.16827124

>>16826701

It's more desirable to join the Phantasy Star Crew.

At this point, they are better off with setting up a Western Studio with permanent members.

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b306d1  No.16827126

File: 4c0f60393749d8b⋯.gif (1.85 MB, 391x314, 391:314, Sonic Fans.gif)

>>16827102

look, im just being honest with you. if judy hopps didn't turn this generation into massive furfags, then the sonic porn will.

>socks

i dont need a sock because i have a functional foreskin, unlike you.

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8ce2d6  No.16827133

>>16827126

>now loading.gif

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29da91  No.16827152

>>16827114

True, but at least he knew what he was doing.

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31d476  No.16827159

>>16827114

I've never actually heard of this. Do you have a source or anything I can check for further reading on him? I'm only aware that after Sonic he went to work on the Digimon series with some moderate success. He's also been discussing about the upcoming movie a lot on social media. In fact, its all he's been talking about for the past two months.

>>16827126

>implying kids even care Zootopia

The only people that still talk about that movie are millenials who were furries to begin with and mentally ill 16 year olds. We have bullying to thank for the next generation abstaining from anything resembling furfaggotry.

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604325  No.16827166

>>16826452

It never effected the people that did that though. It only changed things for the next writer who fixed everything

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11c84a  No.16827168

File: e8e8805826e8dac⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 281.82 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, benis.jpg)

>>16826611

Gets my cock so rock fucking HARD.

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854ed2  No.16827173

>>16827114

It's more like he

A. Wanted to stop working on Sonic

B. Wanted to have a higher position in the company because he made the game that saved the Genesis

But through his career they wanted to keep him on Sonic forever because look what happened without him, around the time he promoted Izuka to direct Adventure to his actual departure during 06.

>>16827159

I never heard he went for Digimon, he started his own company, made some game about a kiwi, some Wii fishing game even though he knew jack shit about fishing, and now has some mobile game I think.

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b306d1  No.16827174

>>16827159

bullying pushes the kids into deviancy, why would they bother trying to get the approval of the bully when they can just go on the internet and make online friends?

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1c5b55  No.16827175

>>16827114

didn't Naka leave the company and started some literal who company with games nobody cared about

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854ed2  No.16827177

>>16827174

Honestly, I think furries hate the furry community enough at this point that they don't get into the deeper degeneracy. Of course that could also just be "people who draw porn but have like one furry character and occasionally draw furry porn". Yeah you know that picture about the death of a fanbase or whatever, that's happening to furries from what I can tell.

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3cfc26  No.16827180

>>16827174

If I become a very pretty girl, will my bullies let me suck their dicks? Will they like me then?

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53a76a  No.16827192

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b306d1  No.16827193

>>16827177

its all about the porn now.

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31d476  No.16827260

>>16827173

Huh, I could've sworn I read something about him working on Digimon, but I just looked it up and he only produced the All-Star Rumble game. Regardless, I still think recruiting the old guard back to Sonic Team could do the series well. Its better than the literal whos working on the series now at least.

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00f26c  No.16827261

File: 9a365255f819eee⋯.jpg (12.49 KB, 600x253, 600:253, woah what the fuck.jpg)

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8a4b24  No.16827758

>>16827159

The source for the final struggle of X-Treme is from an interview.

http://www.lostlevels.org/200403/200403-xtreme.shtml

Its just kinda mentioned, as an obvious point to calling it a death kneel though, NIGHTs X-Treme would have had like a tiny dev cycle; the game was totally fucked by the time it got forced to switch engines anyway. And thats ignoring the fact that the Boom engine that was used before was too different to reuse assets from.

You would need miracle workers to actually wrangle this shit.

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d2342e  No.16827896

File: e9ce87a80bf3d1c⋯.jpg (112.68 KB, 1498x769, 1498:769, sonic get a load of this l….jpg)

>>16827029

I'm looking foward to it. I think it might actually turn out okay. If the filmmakers were willing to go the extra mile just to redesign Sonic from the horrifying abomination we got at first, then it seems like they do care about how fans are gonna take this movie.

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f95227  No.16827899

>>16827261

As someone who has one of those skin flaps, i can tell you it's a circumcision that healed wrong.

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c2480e  No.16827900

>>16827029

I wish they didn't redesign Sonic. It would've been a far more hilarious dumpster fire to watch.

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d2342e  No.16827903

File: 46cc542da960f5d⋯.jpg (777.37 KB, 975x1100, 39:44, judy gets naked.jpg)

>>16827159

I still care about Zootopia. I'm waiting for the sequel And more porn and new furry waifus It made too much money for Disney to not want to make another.

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9300e4  No.16827913

>>16827029

>Before this thread gets overrun by degenerate furfags, whats everyones thoughts on the Sonic movie?

It looks surprisingly decent from the trailers, and it is nice to see somebody care about the little blue guy for once. Kind of wish there was more of his friends in the movie, if only to see what Tails, Knuckles and Amy would've looked like with the original design.

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d2342e  No.16827920

>>16827177

>>16827193

Furfag here and yes, I do hate the fandom. I'll admit I do enjoy the porn but I'm not a complete degenerate. There's stuff in the fandom that even I'm disgusted by.

Furry was originally supposed to be like the Anime fandom only centered around anthropomorphic characters. It was just a bunch of guys who liked movies, comics and cartoons with "funny animals" in them at first but because we were such a niche fandom back then and were such nerds, we'd just let anyone into the fandom regardless of their background so a ton of people just joined it solely for the porn and brought along their degeneracies with them.

And so came all the otherkins, babyfurs, alphabet mobsters and even bestialists. It's only gotten worse over time. I've grown to be ashamed of using the term furry.

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3d2281  No.16827923

File: e09bd9ba35f66f2⋯.jpg (70.19 KB, 752x1200, 47:75, dc.jpg)

>>16827920

>but I'm not a complete degenerate.

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698bdc  No.16827931

>>16827903

>I'm waiting for the sequel

Watch it be as disappointingly bland or downright stupid as as Ralph Breaks the Internet, Toy Story 4, Frozen II, Avengers: Endgame, Spider-Man: Far From Home, Captain Marvel, Solo, Star Wars Episode 9, Aladdin…do I need to go on?

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1e3863  No.16827947

>>16827920

This is why gatekeeping is a thing. I wonder if you were ever tempted to stop being a furfag over the fandom's shit.

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00f26c  No.16827960

>>16827947

>It's why gatekeeping is a thing

Not like it matters nowadays, the internet becoming mainstream has made that nearly impossible.

But furfags were the worst solely for allowing anyone to join during the early days, it brought nothing but scum in, fags that just wanted a shield from their faggotry or to socialize instead of wanting to discuss and share a common interest.

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f95227  No.16827965

>>16827920

>totally wasnt sexual yet somehow there was porn to lure people in

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9300e4  No.16827967

>>16827947

>>16827947

>I wonder if you were ever tempted to stop being a furfag over the fandom's shit.

Curing a fetish is virtually impossible without, like, a lobotomy, but i'd imagine it'd at least make you stop associating with them publicly.

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7c87bb  No.16827970

>>16827896

>If the filmmakers were willing to go the extra mile just to redesign Sonic

>actually thinking the whole controversy wasn't a pre-planned marketing stunt

go consume product then, you fucking mindless sheep

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00f26c  No.16827972

>>16827970

>Pre planned

>CGI studio closed down due to bankrupcy

They're shittily paid as well, Hollyjew is a sweatshop

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8ce2d6  No.16827974

>>16827967

I've considered myself a furry for well over 10 years, but I don't participate in the furry community. I have some online friends with that are good people, but like any platform, the general public is very tiring. On FA for example, you get annoying retards, malicious people, underage people that should fuck off, abusive and attention whoring artists, actual dogfuckers, and power tripping site staff that enable it all. There is no benefit to participating in the community whether it is FA or IB or other site. It's all very tiring

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8ce2d6  No.16827975

>>16827920

Don't forget one of the people that Varka knew to fund Bad Dragon was someone from the IT industry that had mob connections with a horse brothel in Mexico, according to a /furry/ thread.

Or that he and Athus are dogfuckers (horse and dolphin respectively). Not sure what Narse is into but he's definitely complicit

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1e3863  No.16827976

File: 58bbfac70c6e6dd⋯.jpg (169.99 KB, 584x626, 292:313, Wide Hips.jpg)

File: fd93c3bc4b3c7d5⋯.jpg (180.1 KB, 558x608, 279:304, Thick Thighs.jpg)

>>16827967

>Curing a fetish is virtually impossible without, like, a lobotomy, but i'd imagine it'd at least make you stop associating with them publicly.

I personally just look for a different fetish to satisfy me as much or more than the other one.

I can't stop being a footfag entirely, but I did gain a thick thighs fetish and ended up paying attention to those instead of feet.

It's not exactly curing, more like filtering one fetish with a different one.

Alternatively, you could do you and just avoid the community.

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854ed2  No.16827987

>>16827975

Ah, so that's why they called it the furry mafia. Aaside from, well, the fact that it could arguably be one despite the literal mob connection.

>>16827976

Ah, moving up in the world, I see.

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d2342e  No.16827991

>>16827947

I definitely don't just tell it to anyone. I try to keep it to myself for the most part to avoid the stigma. And yes, there've been times when I just wanted to quit but old habits die hard.

>>16827965

A lot of people who made up the fandom were adults who grew up with "funny animal" media so we wanted to have more adult stories featuring them that catered to us. It didn't have to just be porn at first. You'd have space operas and slice of life dramas here and there.

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1e3863  No.16827992

File: 62be301fafd3d0c⋯.jpeg (131.84 KB, 900x814, 450:407, EPthgfSX0AANbgH.jpeg)

Good news for the autistic.

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00f26c  No.16827994

>>16827992

They know their audience

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b01b13  No.16828002

File: c0b80f5a62295f6⋯.jpg (1.04 MB, 1342x1464, 11:12, Force Bond - Strength of t….jpg)

File: 16f285e819d7def⋯.webm (2.39 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Unleashed Punch.webm)

File: d8e874f4dce2cab⋯.webm (1.81 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, DmC Punch.webm)

I'v had 2 "hold the fuck up…" moments recently

I think 100%ing Sonic 06 and then going into Unleashed with in a week of each other is making me go insane.

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3d2281  No.16828004

>>16828003

Did you pay 1000 dollars for over 100 of those edits?

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1e3863  No.16828006

File: f9f4c4626ba256f⋯.jpg (58.08 KB, 600x756, 50:63, 2h0pho.jpg)

>>16828003

>Another fucking wojak edit

I'm sick of these wojaks.

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678236  No.16828012

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16828003

>NuWojak

Every single one of you needs to burn

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1c5b55  No.16828017

File: 22b8bf1d02406fd⋯.png (311.4 KB, 429x600, 143:200, 429px-SA1_Storyboard01.png)

File: 0ffc79726926cb3⋯.png (323.05 KB, 428x600, 107:150, 428px-SA1_Storyboard02.png)

File: 7d5698200990a5e⋯.png (185.28 KB, 639x426, 3:2, SA1_Storyboard03.png)

I think mentioned it else where but reminder that sonic adventure was originally going to be a classic sonic title and would have had classic sonic face off against chaos

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1c5b55  No.16828019

File: fd2bb976e1c09f9⋯.png (171.86 KB, 684x512, 171:128, SA1_earlySonic_conceptart.png)

File: b5ad34a3f8f4556⋯.jpg (41.64 KB, 450x600, 3:4, 450px-SA1_SegaSaturn_Proto….jpg)

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>>16828017

Sonic wasn't going to have green eyes originally and you can see a head of the early model in the mission cards also Sonic Xtreme if it came out would have been shit

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d2342e  No.16828027

>>16828019

Kind of wished they'd went with this design.

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b306d1  No.16828030

>>16827903

goddamn i want to fuck that rabbit.

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bb1222  No.16828031

File: 52fabc7445da851⋯.mp4 (7.93 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Is that...Wojak.mp4)

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1c5b55  No.16828032

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16828019

theres also the fact that there are 4 movesets from sonics jam model that were re-added into adventure. Just like that i'm done with the adventure trivia. I sort of have a spot for the late classic-early adventure era

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038664  No.16828040

>>16828002

>completing 06 but completing unleashed before sonic rings

You have to suffer in release order

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b01b13  No.16828045

>>16828027

>>16828019

>>16828017

Makes me wonder when exactly they decided were going to give Sonic a voice, Sonic 1 had a good and a bad ending, Sonic 2 has drawings in it's ending to give it more detail, Sonic CD has Amy getting kidnapped mid level, Sonic 3 has allot of actual cutscenes, Maybe they would have wanted to use voice acting from the start but couldn't do it until Adventure.

While 3D Sonic's voice is something I can't imagine not existing anymore, I don't think Sonic getting a voice actually improved his character, he was more compelling to me when he came off like a force of nature in the Sonic CD intro

>>16828040

I have beaten Secret rings before, but I just can't nowadays with those fucking tilt controls, I have no idea how I played it to completion as a kid.

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8a4b24  No.16828055

File: 874a7fca3dc3a3a⋯.png (1.19 MB, 800x702, 400:351, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16828017

"Classic Sonic", otherwise known as not redesigning sonic for a new era. How shocking that it would have originally used the already in use one.

I think the fact that the prototype version of windy valley implied it was a bit more gamey in stage design was always a bit more interesting.

>>16828019

Nah clearly the game that would have basically been made in seven months would have been great haha.

Honestly the "sprite version" looked like it would have been pretty good with a bit more refinement, the level designs for actual stages looked pretty nice; but the PC versions released have totally shit physics.

But that last bit just seemed like early version jank.

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854ed2  No.16828059

>>16828045

It's interesting that the only time classic Sonic ever talked was when he fucking killed himself in CD.

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1c5b55  No.16828064

>>16828045

i think Sonic Team wanted to do what was capitalized on Sonic cartoons and give him and official voice. then again they originally wanted steve urkel to voice classic sonic in generations but made the decision not to >>16828055

the thing about Xtreme is that it had a troubled development like 06 and Forces especially with the fact one of the higher ups knew the game would most likely screw up and wished them the best of luck to save it. I think if given more time they could have released a great game that would not require a need for the adventure duology and maybe the franchise would be different than what it is now.

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1c5b55  No.16828068

>>16828064

sorry i meant jaleel white

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9300e4  No.16828075

>>16828045

>Maybe they would have wanted to use voice acting from the start but couldn't do it until Adventure.

Well he did talk in the cartoons, both American and Japanese ones, and 3D Blast(made by a brit but overseen by the japs) also had him speaking in text, so they're probably not against it.

>Sonic getting a voice actually improved his character

Probably because they only use to explain basic shit to you like you're retarded. Just look at Forces and wii u boom.

>>16828055

>Honestly the "sprite version"

Which one is that even, there's like 4 different fucking versions of this game, which is no wonder why they couldn't get the fucking thing released.

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8a4b24  No.16828080

>>16828064

I think adventure like games would have came out regardless, but X-treme may have kept it in the earlier "gamey" stages of development; the green eyes thing probably would have never happened. Though i wouldn't count on it, it was just a marketing gimmick after all.

Though maybe it would have just been more of an X-treme 2; no sprite edition with the original draft idea of Knuckles/Tails being in with different playstyles originally planned for them.i wonder how free control camera was meant to make tails sections that different though

Chaos just seems like a really obvious villain no matter the case anyway, even X-treme had a story draft of evil guys coming out of the master emerald.

>>16828075

Sprite version was the one that got an early version shown accidentally and got canned for it, it was the original version, the Condor version is the NIGHTs thing that was leaked. The sprite version is the one you would have seen in magazines, i don't think anyone besides the guy who almost killed himself for it thought the 3D version had any hope.

I legitimately don't think the boss engine was ever released thinking about it. Not the original one meant to be used with the sprite version; nor the one that would have been the final attempt.

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31d476  No.16828082

>>16828045

>I don't think Sonic getting a voice actually improved his character, he was more compelling to me when he came off like a force of nature in the Sonic CD intro

Its only in certain games where Sonic being vocal plays into a large part of his character. Obviously the storytelling is different in the Genesis games so he naturally has no need to speak or have dialogue. Adventure 2, Black Knight (especially this one), and Unleashed utilize Sonic speaking the best imo. You get a lot of insight into his character and philosophy, and, at least for a kid at the time, it could be very compelling.

Nowadays its as >>16828075 says, he only speaks to explain the plot to the mentally retarded and spout Marvel one-liners and quips. Thanks for nothing, Pontac and Graff.

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8a4b24  No.16828094

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>>16828080

Or was condor and the boss engine the same thing? I forget really, there is a third engine for the third stretch; but looking at the metal sonic footage i think the boss engine was Condor.

Either way the third engine has never shown up.

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b01b13  No.16828102

>>16828082

I still need to play Black Knight, I keep hearing interesting things about it, I can emulate it on dolphin, but I need to figure out how best to bind the Wiimote control scheme onto a controller first.

Thinking about it what usually makes Sonic's goal interesting to me is when he was being pushed by a rival, Sonic is usually laid back and chill, but Shadow and Jet, both made him go "Oh you think your better then me?" a rival is always an easy way to get the player motivated about the hero succeeding.

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9300e4  No.16828103

>>16828094

>>16828080

There's also the PoV engine, which was apparently created in secret by the team responsible for porting Xtreme to the Saturn.

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3d2281  No.16828113

File: 8f5b7fbe2d6a4b7⋯.jpg (8.15 KB, 275x183, 275:183, scooby does his dog eater ….jpg)

>>16828094

I seriously hope she's standing on a step stool.

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854ed2  No.16828116

>>16828102

Knuckles arguably did it first, but on the other hand Metal Sonic also arguably did it first. Metal Sonic basically didn't interact with Sonic at all aside from a sick boss fight, while Knuckles just fuckled with you until an anticlimactic boss fight.

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1c5b55  No.16828118

>>16828094

where do you think they are now?

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8a4b24  No.16828122

File: 6d2f9fa6b869b07⋯.png (48.68 KB, 320x224, 10:7, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16828103

Wasn't that just a shifty port? Not really much of a different engine even if it probably internally basically was.

It is pretty notable for being what put the nail in the coffin though by being the build shown.

Anyway i think this might be the "final engine", considering it lacks the metal sonic glow the Condor version had.

Why did they even use the metal sonic stage as a base, Fangs stage was clearly something they had judging by screenshots

>>16828116

Metal sonic does interact with you earlier in the game and his image is something you should constantly encounter.

He's definitely a goal like a rival but he's not actually one.

Knuckles fight did just suck though.

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9300e4  No.16828128

File: 6f47ff158204acb⋯.jpg (22.48 KB, 480x360, 4:3, Sonic pov engine.jpg)

>>16828122

>Wasn't that just a shifty port?

As i understand it after they showed off that shitty tech demo, they wen't back and created an entirely different game that, iirc, was never actually shown off to SEGA.

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854ed2  No.16828131

>>16828122

I mean he shows up for one cutscene to kidnap a character you probably don't care about, but yeah his hologram is a thing that does show up sometimes. Metal Sonic gets by entirely on being a cool design and a cool boss fight, but that's really all he needed to be. I've never actually played CD, but I did play Chaotix, I could write an entire fucking design document about that mess, and maybe I will someday.

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31d476  No.16828133

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>>16828102

I can't express enough how underrated Black Knight is. I really disliked Secret Rings when it first came out and it took me a long while for it to grow on me, but Black Knight just clicked for me from the get go. Now, while I consider it much better than Secret Rings, the gameplay itself still might not be your cup of tea. Arguably, the best part of Black Knight is its story, especially in the second half of the game where everything gets turned on its head. Some of the dialogue and cutscenes might seems silly, though I think its intended to be like that (everyone talks with a medieval vibe, which is extremely contrasted with Sonic's laid back tone, word choice, and personality, creating some really amusing and even thought-provoking scenes).

>Thinking about it what usually makes Sonic's goal interesting to me is when he was being pushed by a rival, Sonic is usually laid back and chill, but Shadow and Jet, both made him go "Oh you think your better then me?" a rival is always an easy way to get the player motivated about the hero succeeding.

Sonic games often handle "rivalry" themes really well. The one between Sonic and Knuckles is one of my favorites, though its rarely talked about. Just as their colors and designs are opposites (Sonic is spiky while Knuckles is smooth, Sonic is speed while Knuckles is power-based, etc.), their ideals and code directly contrast each other as well. Sonic is a free spirit who follows the will of no one but himself; he lives strictly according to his own rules and sense of justice, and he'll do what he thinks is right above all else. Knuckles in contrast is very duty-bound, hence his guarding the Master Emerald. He prefers solitude and, SA1 demonstrates this really well, he prioritizes his responsibility and assigned duty far above his own personal desires. In other words, Sonic thinks "the right thing" is to follow his heart and will independent of outside influences, while Knuckles believes "the right thing" is to follow his assigned mission and responsibility to the end regardless of his thoughts on the matter. Its an interesting contraction that I don't think the games ever took full advantage of or maybe I'm just autistic and reading too deep into it

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8a4b24  No.16828141

>>16828128

Oh right, those were the builds built off an early build that were the first builds leaked if i remember right.

They were for PC and weren't really better than the original builds so it would be worthless to show to SEGA anyway.

>>16828131

The gimmick of the game is kinda fun, but Chaotix is really blandly made if you think about it; its huge stages show some thought was put into it; but honestly the game probably should have just been more tightly made instead of just putting ten layers of leeway so you can sling yourself up a retardly huge stage.

It has numerous other issues and seeing crackers always made me wonder how the early builds actually werebecause the leaked version was too early to really tell if they dropped the ball later on

All its extra features just wind up empty as well.

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d2342e  No.16828142

File: a0ffc6bd742c28b⋯.png (901.42 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, judy news 1.png)

>>16828030

You and everyone else.

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d2342e  No.16828148

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>>16828045

Sonic did have a voice in Sonic CD but all he ever said was "I'm outta here!"

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d2342e  No.16828151

>>16828064

>>16828068

Sega was gonna get Jaleel White to come back and voice Classic Sonic in Generations? Where'd you hear this? I always thought Sega didn't want anything to do with SatAM Sonic or AOSTH.

Anyway, if you want someone to blame for Sonic Xtreme getting cancelled it would be Yuji Naka for bitching about STI using his Nights engine for one of the levels.

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1c5b55  No.16828155

>>16828151

>Sega was gonna get Jaleel White to come back and voice Classic Sonic in Generations? Where'd you hear this?

Classic Sonic is silent throughout the game, but still shows his personality through his actions and gestures. Aaron Webber mentioned in an interview, that if anyone were to be Classic Sonic, it would be Jaleel White. Aaron had to make a choice whether Classic Sonic would be voiced by Jaleel White or have no voice at all. Aaron also mentioned that he grew up with the classic cartoons of Sonic like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, and he thought Jaleel White did a fantastic job.

only source i can find is a jewtube embed thats on the Generations voice acting section on the sonic wiki, still imagine having classic sonic make a bunch of AOTSH tier quips during the game

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1c5b55  No.16828156

>>16828155

disregard that, theres a youtube video and an article at unseen 64, depends on which you want to consider trustworthy.

http://archive.is/HOS9D

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854ed2  No.16828157

>>16828155

>imagine having classic sonic make a bunch of AOTSH tier quips during the game

As much as I fucking hate most of the SoA localization and related media, I still actually like AOSTH a little. Maybe it's all the YouTube Poops of it, but whatever. I also can't call that design of Robotnik anything but, for me it's the iconic "Robontnik: (although that's also partially due to Mean Bean Machine). Still wouldn't want Jaleel White to voice Sonic again, although hearing him say "I'm outta here!" and fucking killing himself would be worth it. Also what would the Japanese have gotten? Sonic OVA's voice? Who knows.

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1c5b55  No.16828158

>>16828157

the only reason i can see sonic team giving classic sonic jaleels voice would be to pander to the crowd that grew up with the old cartoons. Of course they could probably go with the OVA dub as well.

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8a4b24  No.16828164

>>16828157

I mean there is only two "Robotnik" designs.

AOSTH is very distinct and pops, SatAM kinda just matches how he feels in said cartoon; bland.

The comics just used cartoon designs outside of fleetway using the actual Eggman design for a small amount of time.

ironically archie used SatAM and fleetway used AOSTH, meaning the two basically had the same amount of usage

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7c85af  No.16828226

>>16827987

Varka himself owns Bad Dragon, dragonfru.it (furry ad platform), e621, hosts Inkbunny on his server, and some other shit. Look up his history with Herpy.net for example

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00f26c  No.16828765

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Just found this

Enjoy

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9bd78c  No.16828767

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663d06  No.16828840

>>16828765

why am i tempted to click on that?

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00f26c  No.16828847

File: b48ab8ee1f35225⋯.mp4 (972.21 KB, 320x240, 4:3, homero DBZ rap.mp4)

>>16828840

You wish to witness a massive amount of autism

It's also done by spics so you know it's good.

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c2480e  No.16828850

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16828765

That was gay and the animation was so poorly done and lazy. The voice acting sucked too. Here's something more enjoyable and professionally made.

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00f26c  No.16828853

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16828850

>11 minutes only

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bb1222  No.16828938

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>It's been 26 years since Sonic 3 launched on Hedgehog's Day

And almost a decade since "Project Needlemouse" turned out to be Sonic 4

I think I'll play as Knuckles soon for his birthday.

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1e3863  No.16829686

File: e1c77df84e7bc74⋯.gif (1.97 MB, 400x225, 16:9, Real Sonic.gif)

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56d70a  No.16830126

>>16828850

>>16828853

I'm amazed that he isn't purge off discord

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c2480e  No.16830154

>>16830126

Tamers has a Discord account?

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ca92c0  No.16830706

File: 55a94a7f6c1417c⋯.webm (1.52 MB, 270x480, 9:16, Green_Chill_Zone.webm)

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e9bb89  No.16830859

File: 3245c050c6f4213⋯.png (7.5 KB, 211x246, 211:246, 1494236616449.png)

>>16830706

Don't hedgehogs have penises on their bellies?

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1e3863  No.16830964

>>16830706

How are they as pets when compared to Hamsters and Gerbils?

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0a3565  No.16831113

>>16830964

Not made for autistic people. Yes, I am serious. Hedgehog pets need a lot of patience, gentle and care. Make sure you you always wash your hands after petting a hedgehog anon

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0952aa  No.16832500

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16825026

You're kidding? The glitchiness is what sold me on SA2.

>>16826416

Man, I miss the Adventure Robotnik look and voice. He was threatening but still dumb, unlike the new one which is just whimsical.

I really miss those times when one dimensional bad guys could sound like actual bad guys instead of funnymen, faggots or being played by some e-celeb/unionized VA that gets all the roles.

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1857e5  No.16832511

File: 5f15faf260e6acd⋯.jpg (293.04 KB, 900x700, 9:7, 1398575955074.jpg)

>>16832500

Different versions of Eggman/Robotnik have run the gamut friendly antagonist to irredeemable monster and everything in between.

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1e3863  No.16832543

>>16832511

What's the story behind this image?

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0952aa  No.16832555

>>16832511

'tism is good

Also didn't Archie establish that Robotnik transfers consciousness and that is why there's so many different versions of Eggman?

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fcf084  No.16832790

>>16832555

No thats not what that explanation was for, while the main Eggman could do that due to being a robot for a decent period of time and was used to explain him switching to the adventure design.

Its just parallel dimension autism, like "good robotnik" for ebil sanic.

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aa6d4e  No.16832811

File: 914bed4d2c38f7b⋯.mp4 (996.34 KB, 400x224, 25:14, sonic irl 2.mp4)

>>16825026

But seriously though, City Escape is the best opening level in a 3D Sonic game.

>Running from the police.

>Running from the police on police property.

>Running from a motherfucking police truck.

>ROLLIN AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND.

This level is the embodiment of everything good about Sonic. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: You can't.

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9300e4  No.16832881

>>16832511

>Eggman NEGA is there

>but no Cat Sonic

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b01b13  No.16832897

File: f56b5dbed47be38⋯.webm (11.22 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Shadow City Escape.webm)

>>16832811

<Yes this old webm I made has Shadow instead of Sonic, but you get the point of it.

The Presentation is great to get the player hyped, there is the opening cutscene that leads to the start of the plots mystery, since the player is obviously going to wonder just why Sonic is wanted by the authorities, the transition from that cutscene to gameplay is organic Sonic rips of a piece of the helicopter, and then once in gameplay the player is using that exact same piece to surf down the street, The combination of the the City escape theme, and the immediate fast pace the surfing causes tells the player everything they'll ever need to know about Sonic as a character, and a game, before they even testing the controls.

This leads into the design of the level, due to the surfing the player understands the game is about moving forward while avoiding obstacles, the rings are the first thing put in front of the player, they're automatically moving forward so they're bound to pick some up just for the sake of collecting some, this ensures it will be nearly impossible for a player to die on their first hit of damage later in the level, the ramps while going down the slop give the player an immediate goal to try and jump off them, if they do it right they pull of a cool trick and get ranked score, that will be information that helps them understand the ranking they get at the end of a level, if they miss a ramp because of the automatic movement it teaches the player it's okay not to do everything perfect the first time just keep moving forward to the end, when on the board the game is always showing the action button says break, the player will try out the break, and maybe stop using it completely but they'll know that button does something, eventually the player will reach the speed booster that removes the surfboard, there is decent chance a player will nail a trick of that easiest ramp and pick up a shield, that will teach the player about the power ups, as well as give them a free hit so they don't even lose their rings the first time taking damage.

Given they were jumping off ramps the player will try jumping now that they're on foot to see what happens, they will likely mash a bit a do the homing attack then they will go up the stairs, or attempt jumping on the rail and learn about grinding, the first enemy shows up and it will either hit the player, but they wont die due to the rings or shield they got earlier, the player learns they'll only die if they're careless and don't have rings, they'll attempt to jump at the enemy and find out about the homing attacks slight lock on. once the enemy is taken care off, the player is given the choice of the high or low path, they'll see their isn't much at the High path but maybe check it out anyway, there is the metal create there that the player currently can't do anything about their first time, but they'll know there is "Something" about that create, so they move on. there is next the first road block, the wooden creates, the player can't get past those with the homing attack, so they'll try the action button which they already know has to do "Something" that will cause the summer-salt and destroy the creates, right after is some stars and rails, naturally the player will try jumping on the rail even if they didn't try the first time, grind on the rails shows the action button now says crouch, that tells the player the action button will do allot of different things depending on the context the player is in.

1/2

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b01b13  No.16832899

File: fe6e70a75e70462⋯.webm (10.78 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Metal Sonic City Escape.webm)

>>16832897

Next their is more down hill but this time the player is free to go backward and try nailing jumps if they don't make it the firs time, but they already know it's not too important, later there is a spring in door way naturally the player will try hitting what ever it is by jumping this will for sure get the player to grind if they somehow avoided it this entire time, the railing will end with the player going up the ramp most likely and the player will notice the chao garden key, and see the golden enemy, that they will probably miss the first time, that give the player a reason to try the stage again just to destroy that enemy. moving onward there is the loopdeloop Sonic is Iconic for, it ends with a spring that throw the player onto their first poll, and while they could mess up, and most likely will the 2nd pool even if they make the first one, that shows that the player has a skill to try and master, to do better in the level, but they still aren't being blocked from moving forward, so death pits could kill the player but that shows them how checkpoints work and the price for death is a small setback at first, eventually they get to the last checkpoint at the GUN truck it's it's terrifying and exhilarating but not too difficut, even if they mess up and die they get to try again right away.

That leads to the end of the level, the first easy boss fight, and the first answer to the mystery of why Sonic was wanted in the first place. The introduction of Shadow the hedgehog, who is mysterious welding a "CHAOS EMREALD!", he clearly doesn't give a shit about Sonic beyond a quick greeting, he can teleport which means he can outclass Sonic, but only because of his advantage due to the emerald, and Sonic is taken into custody because of Shadows deeds, that instills in the player

I NEED TO FIND THAT SON OF A BITCH AND KICK HIS ASS!

All of this is done without a single tutorial, but Omochao is optionally there if the player is young or retarded.

City Escape isn't just one of the best Sonic levels, it's one of the best opening levels of all time.

2/2

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1b7cf3  No.16832900

>>16832881

Blaze is right there.

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038664  No.16834211

>>16832811

>>16832897

>>16832899

>stage is good because it teaches you

it's an okay level

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b01b13  No.16834227

File: 35ec09538852fef⋯.jpg (164.34 KB, 900x900, 1:1, Playing Sonic games.jpg)

>>16834211

I'm only giving proper credit, the beginning of SA2 and City Escape was something that indoctrinated millions of children into the Sonic Franchise, it's on the exact same level of Devil May Cry 3 in term of how effective it is at capturing the players attention from the press of the Start button.

Sure maybe the writing and voice acting may not hold up as much to a more cynical adult with modern standards, but SA2 is remembered as one of the best Sonic games, or even best games of all time, and the strength of City Escape is a major force why that happened.

I mostly analyzed the level just for the fun of understanding why it works so well anyway.

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854ed2  No.16834678

I think the major problem I have with most modern Sonic gameplay is that there's nothing similar between his classic and modern moveset. Why does he have a boost juice meter, for example? I know there's sort of a middle ground with Adventure and him having a spin dash and his modern homing attack, but even the spin dash feels kinda off. I don't really blame Sonic Team for slightly fumbling the execution of Sonic in 3D, Yuji Naka didn't want to work on the game, Izuka has since proven he has no idea what he's doing, and 2D game franchises being converted to 3D has pretty much always been a problem. But it's just fucking weird that they game they made about rolling shit around, Billy Hatcher, didn't result in anything good for Sonic. Even Ubisoft tried Tonic Trouble before Rayman 2. The weirdest fucking thing is at this point I don't associate modern Sonic's moveset with him, I associate it with Blaze because I actually played Sonic Rush. Boost seems to absolutely make sense for her, she's got fire power so she just fucking blasts through enemies. It makes complete sense. Hell, even though Rush doesn't have a homing attack (at least when I last looked it up) I associate it more with Blaze than Sonic, is that fucked up or what? I think I've mentioned it before, but she's probably the modern Sonic character classic fans like most, and is probably the most popular post-Shadow character (but what competition does she really have aside from Omega, honestly). I guess what I'm saying is if somebody wants to do some assembly hacking, Blaze in classic Sonic games could be fun.

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db3b5c  No.16835073

>>16827168

Looks like a monster

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db3b5c  No.16835079

File: 054dc01670384f1⋯.jpg (9.3 KB, 180x218, 90:109, 1480883999119.jpg)

>>16828142

>that eyeshadow

>those styled eyelashes with eyeliner

>innocent

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fcf084  No.16835159

>>16834678

The issue was the "3D sonic" identity had already solidified with adventure; the seeming majority wanted adventure expanded, not for it to go closer to its original identity.

Theres a reason why adventurefags vs classicfags is so common, they don't want the same type of game.

When adventure finally crashed with 06, they still wanted to promote to the "adventure side" so they went to a similar style but with a gimmick from a recent game.

When one of those games was praised heavily colors, SEGA decided to try to stick the boost horse; and when they tried to remove it due to being a massively wasteful gimmick said game failed.

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854ed2  No.16835246

>>16835159

Lost World failed not because it lacked boost, but because it was Super Mario 3D World but bad

=ON THE SAME POORLY SELLING CONSOLE AS 3D WORLD=

Lost World came out one month before 3D World too, so people had a direct comparison almost immediately. I'm not going to be counting Sonic Boom because that's more or less Sonic Spinball in the grand scheme of things.

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fcf084  No.16835255

>>16835246

I wasn't implying i believed its failure to be that, i'm implying that something like SEGA definitely would link those two things together though.

Logically considering how horrible boost must be for budget, they'll take another jab at a non-boost modern again eventually.

Also yeah obviously a spin-off that wasn't even meant to be similar gameplay wise at all doesn't factor in to "modern sonic".

even when boom looked decent, it very clearly was a different gameplay point to anything a mainline sonic would be

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a2c223  No.16835606

**Everybody Super Sonic Racing™!

Try to keep your feet right on the ground!

When you're Super Sonic Racing™!

There's no time to look around!

We're just Super Sonic Racing™!

Running to the point of no return!

Everybody Super Sonic Racing™!

Come on and let the fire burn!

Let's go!**

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b4aa84  No.16835795

>>16832543

Fanart of the various versions of Sonic and Robotnik in the franchise fighting each other.

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34308c  No.16835848

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMss4M51rE

just here to share the greatest piece of artistry our generation has seen with everyone

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4d2dd4  No.16835889

File: 82341c0597dd24b⋯.png (117.86 KB, 302x281, 302:281, 1570392088412.png)

>>16835848

Thank you anon I've been looking for that.

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9300e4  No.16835982

>>16835889

>Sonichu History X

>Not Chris telling a jerkop to bite the curb

0/10.

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b0c36d  No.16836811

>>16826438

What whould even be the reason to give Amy super form?She doesn't go on adventures(no,trying to get dicked by sonic isn't an adventure),she doesn't have any power(silver psychokinesis,knuckles strength,edgy chaos powers,sanic FAST)that could be amplified by super form

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e42716  No.16836831

>>16836811

shes got a magical hammer

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21e69b  No.16836837

File: d65d02fedaaefb3⋯.png (739.1 KB, 1470x697, 1470:697, 1483694183805.png)

>>16836811

>she doesn't have any power that could be amplified by super form

She has a hammer.

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4a70ab  No.16837474

>>16836811

She went on a bunch of adventures. Sonic Adventure, Sonic Advance and Sonic Heroes say hi.

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b59577  No.16837569

File: e45cdf4c672d3e0⋯.png (666.21 KB, 504x790, 252:395, RosyRascal01.png)

>>16826438

I wanna put my wiener in crazy Amy.

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6ed17e  No.16837573

>>16836811

Tails doesn't either, and he got a super form. I don't even think he could fly any better in that form.

>>16837569

As hot as crazy can be, that's just your dick confusing it with lewd and enticing because it's retarded. Never stick your dick in crazy.

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31d476  No.16837716

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Sonic movie spoilers if anyone cares: In an apparently leaked post-credits scene, Tails makes a cameo appearance where he flies off into the forest looking for Sonic. So far a lot of people are reporting the clip as being legitimate, and it sounds like Tails' current VA from the games. Here's the clip in question too.

I WANNA FLY HIGH

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31d476  No.16837719

>>16837716

>fucked up the spoiler for the thumbnail

fug

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a08adb  No.16837741

File: 89f418b6aa0aba3⋯.jpeg (130.99 KB, 1500x844, 375:211, Sonic Costume.jpeg)

File: 5e12f436854fd42⋯.jpeg (196.27 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, sonic mask.jpeg)

>>16837716

Hope the movie is a success and completely crushes birds of prey in the box office. They listened to complaints and made changes accordingly so they need to be supported for that because that rarely happens in this blame-the-audience mentality of movies that suck or are woke. From what I hear, it's not that bad. Very retro dealing with a theme that wouldn't expect from a Sonic movie with some fan service. The only complaint I heard so far was that it could've been longer instead of the roughly 90 minutes that is is. Too bad they couldn't fix the merch in time.

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6ed17e  No.16837772

>>16837716

Feels like an awful lot of work for one short post-credits scene. Bet there's a spinoff, sequel, or other kind of short in the works already.

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fb535b  No.16837773

>>16837573

Yeah amplification isn't really a thing that super forms do i'm pretty sure.

The only character who it really does something besides a general power increase is shadow. "Unlimited energy" or higher speed sounds like it'd be a general thing.

If you can shit out infinite energy, then no shit Silver has stronger psychic abilities.

I never even got what Tails super form even was meant to be? Does he just keep some flickies on his person or something, where the hell do they come from.

Also it clearly shows that fucking flickies of all things can go super. Yeah clearly Amy can't be allowed in the heavily exclusive club of super forms.

>>16837716

>Tails cameo

Wonder if there was a redesign for him, probably was added with the redesign but it'd be pretty funny to have another abomination

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5fb1f0  No.16837779

>>16837716

His design is actually pretty good.

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9300e4  No.16837844

>>16837741

>Too bad they couldn't fix the merch in time.

It sucks, but at the very least that's how you know the whole thing wasn't just a publicity stunt. No way they would've submitted the original design in to the toymakers if they were planning on replacing it.

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b59577  No.16840032

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>that time that Eggman just straight up tried to murder Sonic

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1e3863  No.16840107

>>16840032

And that is supposed to be a prequel to Sonic 1.

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c1db7e  No.16840205

File: f85ab399c7d0d26⋯.jpg (64.28 KB, 480x602, 240:301, Cat Anger.jpg)

>>16837716

Anyone saved it? Paramount deleted it.

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b4aa84  No.16840234

File: f49571c1e61943d⋯.jpg (16.35 KB, 400x400, 1:1, twoworlds.jpg)

>>16837773

>Yeah clearly Amy can't be allowed in the heavily exclusive club of super forms.

You don't understand. Only male hedgehogs can go super. Tails and Knuckles going super is non-canon.

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ca92c0  No.16840322

File: 60d8f963d464103⋯.mp4 (2.06 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Tails Leak.mp4)

>>16840032

I love the pacing of this game, there's hardly a moment when you feel safe to just stand around. I know it's just a way to speed up the arcade gameplay, but it plays into the "gotta go fast" nature of Sonic very well.

>>16840205

I've got you covered.

>>16840234

>Knuckles going super is non-canon

I always thought that was fucking retarded. If Blaze can go super by being the Sol Emeralds' protector than Knuckles should be able to become super for being the protector of the Master Emerald and, by proxy, the Chaos Emeralds.

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ca92c0  No.16840332

File: 7f234c1380c92ab⋯.png (324.8 KB, 1593x1665, 177:185, 5c0e2635f58f213158512307a6….png)

>>16830964

They're fine rodents and fun to watch if you have cats since those furry bastards get pissed off trying to swat them. Hedgehogs won't trust you right away if you haven't raised them from birth but they're overall friendly yet timid creatures. You can hold them in your hand when they're balled up since they don't weigh much and their spikes won't dig into you. They also give off a strange hissing noise when startled. Mealworms are one of their favorite treats and a great incentive to get them to open up to you. Like most rodents, they're omnivorous and can be feed a mixture of wet and dry cat food. Overall they're better than sugar gliders since they won't nibble at your flesh but worse than squirrels since they're not as energetic or soft. Still head and shoulders above hamsters and gerbils though and a fun pick of pet for anyone looking to mix it up a bit.

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97d723  No.16840390

So I got a leaked camripped copy of the movie. Any of you faggots up for a movie night this weekend?

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97d723  No.16840391

>>16840390

>Fucking picture didn't upload for some reason.

Briefly looking through the video to check whether it works there's a sheboon love interest for the main character. I knew I was expecting fuckery from Hollywood, but I am still amazed at the audacity of these kikes.

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c1db7e  No.16840413

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d2342e  No.16840416

File: 9244e787898c2ae⋯.jpg (35.41 KB, 450x600, 3:4, amyrouge attention.jpg)

>>16837569

We all do fam.

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77bcaa  No.16840529

>>16840391

I thought you were kidding, but it's there in the movie; **a single mother no less*.*

Y-YOU DOUBLE NIGGER

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a98a6e  No.16840559

>>16840416

eh. the rouge suit looks better on futa tails anyway.

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ada92b  No.16840695

>>16824757

i still would fuck Penders

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ada92b  No.16840697

>>16835982

this

>>16835889

how dare you mock our lord sonichu

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ada92b  No.16840702

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ada92b  No.16840704

>>16840234

>>16840322

>Tails and Knuckles going super is non-canon.

I always thought that was fucking retarded. If Blaze can go super by being the Sol Emeralds' protector than Knuckles should be able to become super for being the protector of the Master Emerald and, by proxy, the Chaos Emeralds.

Agree, this is why not everyone follows on Iizuka's every word.

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1e3863  No.16840829

>>16840234

Izuka is like JK Rowling. He's just bulshit retconning everything out of game.

The only guy I'd listen to with old game canon is Yuji Naka, not this second banana that became the director and have no idea what he's doing with his team.

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6ed17e  No.16840839

>>16840234

You're going to try to tell me Sonic Spinball isn't canon next.

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697cab  No.16840866

>>16840234

There's a canon?

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1e3863  No.16840876

File: 2761601ee946c75⋯.png (24.09 KB, 300x250, 6:5, QBKYQRZKmy-8.png)

>>16840866

Yes and according to Iizuka only the Male Hedgehog Master Race can become Super Aryans.

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9300e4  No.16840887

Speaking of Iizuka, anyone know if his Sonic Bible is online, because i really want to see it. Apparently it's got some really dumb shit in it, like restricting inventors to only Tails and Eggman, despite Sonic somehow owning a fucking Airplane.

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0bc467  No.16840890

>>16840887

I don't remember such a thing, and the only sonic bible i can remember being posted to anywhere was the old american one.

Sounds bullshit considering IDW has a platypus inventor or something to that effect.

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1e3863  No.16840903

>>16840887

>despite Sonic somehow owning a fucking Airplane.

Sonic doesn't have to be an inventor to be the original owner of that plane. He could have either bought it or got it from a friend.

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bfa67d  No.16840908

File: a06d5bb80e4531c⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 1.33 MB, 720x1280, 9:16, why.mp4)

haha

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697cab  No.16840916

>>16840908

I hate it already.

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039bfd  No.16840932

>>16840908

This causes mild anger.

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b59577  No.16841170

File: 3af077605878ba8⋯.jpg (345.91 KB, 1445x944, 1445:944, 2864674_Aval0nX_september_….jpg)

>>16840908

It didn't have to be like this.

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ca92c0  No.16841197

File: 2f4d29592a77fe2⋯.gif (492.3 KB, 500x385, 100:77, 2f4d29592a77fe20a25dc3557c….gif)

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e01aff  No.16841201

File: 2d1aaa739fecf5e⋯.png (419.13 KB, 680x704, 85:88, frieza suicide.png)

>>16840908

>they actually removed and replaced the dancing from the trailers with this shit

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1e3863  No.16841206

>>16840908

Why'd they change the cute trailer dance?

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a98a6e  No.16841215

>>16841206

market research.

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cf8795  No.16841304

>>16840908

Now show the nigress and her niglet interacting with Sonic

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cd1349  No.16841305

>>16841304

Here you go, you double nigger.

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cd1349  No.16841310

>>16841305

>Fucking images still won't upload.

Goddamit, Ron. Fix this abortion of a website.

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69edfd  No.16841450

Is Iizuka a boon or a bane for this series? Will the series improve if he departs?

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0d501d  No.16841579

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Lol

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1e3863  No.16841600

>>16841450

>Will the series improve if he departs?

The series will improve if they hand over the development to Whitehead andand his associates because only Whitehead knows what he's doing.

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c6adc6  No.16841613

>>16837773

Certainly possible tails was also redesigned. It wouldn't make sense to have tails look entirely different in design from old sonic and look like new sonic. Though I suppose it is just as possible he was added after the redesign since it is just a quick post-credit scene.

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ca92c0  No.16841766

>>16824490

So the movie was pretty decent. Sonic farts and flosses twice but other than that he's pretty on point. He gets sad at one point and just runs in circles for no reason until he accidentally causes a sonic boom. There's also beer in the biker bar and they joke about gang shootings/drug dealers so I guess those exist. The product placement scene for Zillow.com was very bland and there's a crazy old man that draws Sanic. The movie sets itself up for a sequel by having Robotnik look and sound more like the one we know, not to mention the whole Tails thing. I'd be interested in seeing what they do when/if they make a second movie.

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869ee0  No.16841778

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16841766

Sequel has a chance to be something with an actual Sonic plot, but I'm afraid his human friends are going to be there too. Maybe we'll get 2006 ending scene as well.

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d2342e  No.16841839

>>16841778

This is just me but I'm hoping for them to bring in following in the sequel:

>Badnik robots with animals inside them.

>Jim Carrey going full Eggman.

>The Chaos Emeralds.

>Explore Sonic and Tails' friendship.

>Possibly have the Death Egg, Amy Rose and Metal Sonic.

>Save Knuckles and the Master Emerald for Part 3.

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6ed17e  No.16841909

>>16841766

>farts

One bone tossed to the little kids seeing funny animal movie of a character they otherwise don't know

>flosses

One bone tossed to the parents of said little kids so they have something to remind the kids about later

>Zillow

Back to the Future had Pepsi and Burger King; you'd think Hormel or Oscar Meyer–or the fast food chain Sonic–would've wanted that spot. Whatever.

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0bc467  No.16841928

>>16841613

That was what i was inferring yes.

You know i only just realized concept art from this movie is probably going to show up to answer such questions.

Wonder what the other sonic drafts looked like.

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604325  No.16842081

>>16827029

I haven't seen it but it sucks. I mean it's the smurfs movie with sonic

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322d98  No.16842172

>>16841839

>Amy Rose

NOPE

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b59577  No.16842206

File: 2ab14d3380153a3⋯.png (103.11 KB, 259x384, 259:384, Amy_SonicJam.png)

>>16842172

Amy is a good girl.

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d45c6f  No.16842752

Saw the movie just now and it was really fun. Far too good for what I was expecting.

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1c9526  No.16842767

File: 960459ec646b2b3⋯.jpg (83.09 KB, 900x738, 50:41, That-pink-hedgie-amy-rose-….jpg)

Post more Pink Hedgehog guys

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d2342e  No.16842870

File: c864ff02fadfc5a⋯.gif (450.2 KB, 500x375, 4:3, amy valentine.gif)

>>16842172

Why not?

>>16842767

You got it!

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a98a6e  No.16842878

File: 1067fad081ace7b⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 10.72 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1067fad081ace7bde76edf8f2….webm)

>>16842206

she is, sonic is missing out.

>>16842767

aye

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b38766  No.16842985

>>16842878

>all characters are over 18

Oh ffs, they're god damned hedgehogs. What's next my are my robots going to need to be 18 before I can cum on my roomba.

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038664  No.16843037

File: eddbed135682ce0⋯.jpg (145.32 KB, 960x538, 480:269, Sonicmanloss.jpg)

>Sonic is fast enough to pretty much able to THE WORLD, which was cool to see

>rings being able to move through space was used cleverly and was able to set a climatic chase

<things just happen

<eggman starts off 100% jim carrey and only briefly becomes eggman at the end only in appearance

<jim carrey's performance is kind of weak as jim carrey and as eggman is completely off, 'closest' comparison would be satam eggman or sonic boom (tv series) eggman

<referencing SPEED and other films

<why was the fat cop unable to control his face expressions when being held up by jim carrey?

<despite sonic being completely redone, his overall body and head movement is lifeless most of the time

<shit music in general

>tails was cool to see but is just a cameo at best, his voice actor is also way better than Sonic, even better than most of the game and other mediums of tails since his voice can be very chalk on nails

>dialogue banter between sonic/tom between eggman is fantastic, everything else is total shit

Okay movie, not any better than rampage or detective pikachu as modern videogame movies go. If they make a sequel, it should be a lot more interesting and hopefully sonic becomes less fucking gay.

>>16842985

>not knowing amy is 12 and sonic is 15

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a98a6e  No.16843063

>>16842985

yes. same reason you can't own child-like sex dolls even though its proven to reduce rates of child sexual abuse.

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ada92b  No.16843316

>>16843218

lewd pls spoiler

>>16842985

>they're god damned hedgehogs

ok cub-didler

>>16843037

the age shit is still dumb and again comes from a sega kids site (that also changes there age again from the sonic heroes manual), they always has acted and sound like adult beside the ones that are obliviously kids. I believe it much as anything that comes from neo Iizuka's mouth.

>>16842878

>all characters are over 18

>they don't look aged up

>amy doesn't big boobs, tights or a huge ass

>sonic still looks the same

>the voice doesn't even sound like her

>>16843218 is better porn

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b59577  No.16843320

File: 27d71649a558429⋯.png (802.67 KB, 1273x917, 1273:917, cream (2).png)

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ada92b  No.16843326

>>16843320

>replyed

thank for take bait cub-didler

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0d501d  No.16843327

>>16843218

Sweet Moses, I wish that was me.

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b59577  No.16843332

File: acf8c9b65a0a188⋯.gif (1.22 MB, 192x192, 1:1, 2992646_iSart_55fps_idle7b….gif)

>>16843326

Niggle me this Battats! How does one diddle something that doesn't exist?

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7826aa  No.16843333

>>16843332

that is some smooth sprite work

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a98a6e  No.16843389

File: bd1c21fc5260f79⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 255.29 KB, 641x1238, 641:1238, bd1c21fc5260f7932a35ff9e82….png)

File: 078ec1740e603d9⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.61 MB, 1600x1340, 80:67, 078ec1740e603d9251404984a4….png)

File: 5e60ace2b90a75b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 442.82 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 5e60ace2b90a75b2c4d7ad2cd5….png)

File: b44927cca58e3e9⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 20.24 KB, 497x700, 71:100, b44927cca58e3e974648825d28….jpg)

File: 28b4d23c79fa0b4⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.79 MB, 4500x3185, 900:637, 28b4d23c79fa0b463786995538….png)

the fuck did you delete posts for cakekike?

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e42716  No.16843400

>>16843332

is that really pixelated, or are those 16 bit graphics animated on a 64+ bit plane?

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52d0dc  No.16843402

File: 0fce409d965dc0d⋯.png (548.33 KB, 1023x393, 341:131, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16843389

notice how >>16842987 remained untouched

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dff912  No.16843415

File: bf38815ea5276c9⋯.png (24.21 KB, 500x250, 2:1, Oekaki.png)

>>16843332

fuck off shabbos goy

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b59577  No.16843425

File: 1f49a804cb2f8e1⋯.gif (27.07 KB, 128x128, 1:1, 2840774_iSart_idle7b (2).gif)

>>16843400

I'm pretty sure it's actually pixelated because the previous version looks like this. iSart does pretty good work from what I've seen.

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4a5661  No.16843588

>>16843400

>>16843333

>>16843425

It's converted through this interpolation program https://grisk.itch.io/dain-app

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6ed17e  No.16844073

>>16843588

It's interesting. No interpolation algorithm would organically weight her ears so that the tips lagged a little behind the rest of her head unless that kind of detail was already in her frames. If you go look at them, you see that, sure enough, it is. So that's a good example of interpolation working to its strengths and getting a good result. Her hand and her wing have a noticeably unsmooth jump, though, if you stare at them for a while. There's probably some kind of frame-to-frame difference algorithm that could highlight that sort of thing to help an animator redraw the initial animation a little to get a better interpolation result.

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f7e1bc  No.16844109

>>16840332

They aren't rodents you fucking retarded nigger. They're in the same order as moles and shrews.

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ca92c0  No.16846738

File: 7ecbb0f05fd45e6⋯.png (202.18 KB, 481x349, 481:349, 7ecbb0f05fd45e6ad065fdd366….png)

>>16844109

No one gives a shit about moles or shrews so suck a dick.

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7bffbf  No.16846974

>>16843389

Because it's furry you faggot, we already have several boards for that.

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