/v/ - Video Games

>owning an iPozzed anything

What's Epic games got to do with it?

Also Rocket League is quite a fun game but it gets repetitive pretty quickly. At the very least I give it credit for being a popular multiplayer game with a high skill ceiling.

>>16818908

They bought out Psionix months ago.

What a shocker

>Mac

While I hate Macfags I also hate EG and their chink masters.

It's not about Apple, it's about the end of Linux support.

Can't wait for everyone in this thread saying "lol who cares, it's Apple" to realize that they dropped Linux support too and suddenly be very very outraged.

>>16819000 (checked)

Pretty much how these threads roll out. Now the chink defense force will swoop in saying linux is too niche or some such nonsense.

LIterally yesterday I thought about getting it. Guess I'll stick to Super Tux Kart. Someone should make a rocket league mod.

>>16819012

Lack of professionalism, no unified structure or support.

>>16819012

Yes.

a) Devs were probably retarded and had no forethought when making their game, so ended up using many OS-specific libraries

b) Linux isn't popular enough to warrant the effort (which even if my first point was true, shouldn't take a good programmer more than a day or so, meaning either they're bullshitting or their spaghetti code is worse than Notch's for Minecraft.)

That's of course taking them at face value. EGS isn't even available on Linux as far as I saw, so it might just be a nice wink and nod from Tencent to stop supporting Linux. Doesn't explain dropping support for the MacOS port though.

>>16819019

>shouldn't take a good programmer more than a day or so, meaning either they're bullshitting or their spaghetti code is worse than Notch's for Minecraft.

Even then, if the development tools they're using are platform-agnostic, it wouldn't be an issue. Minecraft ran on everything because it was interpreted through Java, which runs on everything.

If an Unreal game can't work on Linux, it's because Unreal doesn't have the proper "code once, run everywhere" cross-platform support.

>>16819012

Tim Sweeny has been vocal about his absolute disdain for Linux. He has no plans to support Linux in any capacity. The Fortnite Launcher doesn't even support Linux.

>>16818937

>making a gaming computer

>when you can just keep selling normal computers with trademarked exteriors for the price of 2 gaming computers

>>16818937

>Why anyone would care about dropping iOS or OS X support for games is beyond me.

Because the operating systems for Apple computers is Unix-based.

>>16819034

They're no longer normal computers. They're now normal computers with soldered SSDs and RAM.

>>16819037

Would that make much of a difference? It's not like RAM slots are like breadboard connections.

>>16819059

Makes a slight difference in how much space it takes up in the computer itself. Makes a large difference in that you can't upgrade your $5000 "pro" machine. Makes no difference in actual RAM speed or performance, of course.

>>16819037

They haven't been a normal computer since the inception of Apple Computers, they've always been gaudy marketed crap whos only claim to fame will always be "at least we're not microsoft".

>>16819074

Hey, there was a time (back when Commodore was relevant) when you could make a legitimate argument for an Apple computer being good, in terms of computer performance for the price, as well as the software bundled. Not so much from the 90s onwards.

I got an Apple Keyboard 2 from Goodwill a bit ago, shit's really nice but a USB adapter is 25 bucks at the cheapest because of Apple's proprietary bullshit.

>>16819074

Honestly until gaming PCs start utilizing hole technology™ I'm not seeing them

>>16819072

You can always desolder and solder new components but I doubt replacement RAM/SSD components would exist in the consumer market or if anyone who even buys a gayming PC would know what or how to solder. Also personally I wouldn't want to fuck around with a soldering iron around my PC.

>>16819089

An SSD is an SSD, Apple's aren't that unique. However, I'm pretty sure Apple serializes their Hard Drives so even if you were to resolder it, it might reject it or at least bitch at you very hard for having done so. Same thing happens with Apple phone screen and power button replacements, where the phone tells you that the screen is bad if you're replaced it, and outright rejects power buttons.

>>16819095

>An SSD is an SSD

I'm aware, but maybe the package footprint isn't the same as any regular SSD's connection. Maybe you can fuck around with wires but at that point you might as well just have a slot you can connect to instead. This irreplaceable component shit is really pissing me off, like how newer phones have built in batteries that cannot be replaced. And then like colossal fucktards they make "fast charging" the default.

>outright rejects power buttons.

So wait, what do iPhones have instead of power buttons then? Or is this some sort of fresh hell where you can't turn off the phone unless it's out of battery?

>>16819103

>So wait, what do iPhones have instead of power buttons then? Or is this some sort of fresh hell where you can't turn off the phone unless it's out of battery?

More like for a while, if you replaced the power button, it would no longer allow fingerprint recognition but they released a patch that now bricks phones with replaced power buttons.

>>16819116

Why do people buy Apple again?

>>16819122

its fashionable.

>>16819122

"It just works" is the most common reason. I remember a girl in late high school, around the time the iPhone 4 came out explaining to me that iPhones had better cameras than Android phones which justified the purchase (apparently that's not actually wrong, but the difference is negligible in modern phones and is all down to software)

I also might be retarded but every time I've had to use an iPhone (to fix shit for other people, like hell am I gonna use one of those things willingly), I can never find the features and settings I'm looking for.

>>16819000

Thank you, idk why people can't seam to notice that part.

>>16818894

>Epic Games and Tim Sweeney

This was the devs themselves, not Epic.

Anybody familiar with them would know this.

>>16819169

you know who owns those devs now, right?

>>16819025

>If an Unreal game can't work on Linux, it's because Unreal doesn't have the proper "code once, run everywhere" cross-platform support.

iirc it does, so do half the engines now. the problem isn't technical, it's business related. if you sell a linux version you have to support it, which costs more money than it's worth for most - especially if it's a more demanding game than some indie platformer.

that still wouldn't be a problem since most shit runs on proton these days - except the anticheat, and without that good luck.

>>16819396

There's also the fact that energy production is not clean enough to justify the big consumption of energy electric cars uses, so you are better off using traditional fuel. That's also on top of the cucks who don't want nuclear energy despite being cleaner and generating far more energy.

>>16819384

How about releasing games that do not require constant patching and fixes? I am not a programmer by any means, but many software companies, even small ones, manage to release patches for their products few times a year for multiple operating systems, even ones that are obsolete. Are games really that different from other software when it comes to support?

>>16819396

>>16819012

That image does have a point when it comes to repairs. You have to pay out of the ass to have Tesla fixed and there is parts and mechanic shortage that causes months of wait time.

Zero user control is not limited to Tesla however. I was looking for a year old used car, and so many modern models are crippling your options or hide them behind million sub-menus on their touch screen displays. Ditching physical buttons and turning transmission lever are a whole another matter.

60s, 70s, and 80s muscle car with but with tech adons like aux connection, heated seats, rear view camera etc. of 2010 - 2017 cars would be absolutely perfect.

>>16819405

Electric Cars + Nuclear energy is the best method available right now.

Sadly, Electric cars cripple the Oil industry (and industry that doesn't even need to defend itself, several states do it for them since they depend on oil for their GDP) and Nuclear has this "NYMBA" problem because people think modern reactors are just Chernobyl 1.01 with a coat of paint.

>>16819074

Whilst it is gaudy shit, the PPC range of Macs are pretty fun to fuck with still.

>>16819082

If you gave enough of a fuck about Mac then, you probably could just use an Amiga and run everything better than a Mac could ever hope to accomplish,

>>16819512

It is just a status icon and nothing else. No one cares that coal production is hitting new highs since they have a shiny new car that is "clean". Funny how easy it is to placate the green crowd and raze the planet.

>>16819512

>>16819477

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've read there isn't enough uranium to switch to nuclear exclusively. Yes it's a MUCH better source of power, until we run out of fuel and then it doesn't matter.

>>16819538

>exclusively

It's a bad idea to rely exclusively on one power source because of the reason you've just mentioned.

>>16819477

>people think modern reactors are just Chernobyl 1.01 with a coat of paint.

Do they, though? Even know what Chernobyl is, I mean?

>>16819459

>How about releasing games that do not require constant patching and fixes? I am not a programmer by any means, but many software companies, even small ones, manage to release patches for their products few times a year for multiple operating systems, even ones that are obsolete. Are games really that different from other software when it comes to support?

It's not so much content and patches as much as it is cosmetics and DLC. You have to squeeze out as much money as possible from a big multi million dollar game before you release the next big multi million dollar game, you can't just make several smaller budget games and release them over a period of years as to make the next iteration something to look forward to or something of high quality. Just release shit yearly and people will buy it. And the worst part is that I'm not even wrong, considering the continued success of CoD and Asscreed. I can only hope at some point people will get fatigued hard enough for these franchises to flop, and by flop I mean not even break even.

>>16819538

We don't really need to burn old shit for bombs, there's shit we can use for nuclear power that's far safer and even generates less waste.

>>16819122

Specifically iPhones? It's a fashion thing. Apple in general is mostly a scheme for microsoft to avoid scrutiny of their massive, blatant, and obvious monopoly in home and lowtech business.

>>16819552

>Even know what Chernobyl is, I mean?

They at least know it as an HBO mini-series that won a Golden Globe.

>>16818908

Rocket League is literally this but with worse graphics, prove me wrong

>>16819512

>electric cars are bad

depending on where you live, it may or may not be viable but over here gas is really expensive and you're better off converting your car to run on electric instead

>>16819660

That looks like fun actually

>>16819676

It really is.

It's called Hobosoccer (the second version I think, which is a revamped game with more AI controlled players and field types).

>>16819538

That isn't the issue we're facing though.

The issue we're facing is that politicians are trying to score good boy points by being against nuclear.

It's not just the case that countries are refusing to expand nuclear energy. Many countries, including germany, are actively trying to reduce nuclear energy and shut down nuclear power plants. These then get replaced with coal, brown coal and even biomass reactors. Then next year it turns out they're still miles away from reaching their CO2 reduction goals despite spending billions on renewables so they allocate another giant pile of money for it.

Politicians are actively replacing clean and cheap forms of energy, like nuclear and coal, with less efficient and more polluting forms of energy, like biomass. And the retarded masses eat it up because biomass sounds modern and hip, so it's gotta be better right?

An even bigger joke here is the retarded bureaucracy is involved. In my country, the Netherlands, politicians want to shut down coal power plants (instead of the more pollutant biomass ones), import the more polluting brown coal energy from Germany, and then write that off as CO2 reduction. The end result doesn't matter, as long as you appear to be doing the right thing.

>>16819705

>And the retarded masses eat it up

Where there these "masses"? Bots on twitter?

>>16819661

Electric cars are horrible for 2 reasons:

A) The batteries are made of cancerous materials, and studies have shown that most of them are simply dumped away, creating pollution worse than what gas normally would.

B) They're silent, and therefore gay. A car should roar and attract peoples' attention to it's magnificent V8.

>>16819512

Reminder that solar power is a meme that requires a fuckload of space of solar panels to make up for the needs of the average city, resulting in the destruction of thousands of acres of land for it's installation. Also it looks ugly. Wind turbines also require more power to function than they're capable of producing, when there is no wind powerful enough to move them there is a generator that starts moving them and they also genocide flocks of birds.

>>16819733

>The batteries are made of cancerous materials,

electric cars use like 8 different battery types, and the most common is Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer, which are recyclable but not really commonly recycled because lithium is so fucking common.

Lead-acid is also common but those are used in regular cars anyways and are the most recycled battery type out there, because legit the entire thing is reusable in some way.

Electric cars suck because our power generation sucks, it's more efficent thermodynamically to burn the fuel for power at the end than to burn it at a plant to turn it lossily into electricty, lossily transport it to your house, lossily transport it into a battery, then turn it back into force, it's for this reason that hybrid cars are better than straight electric, cause they mainly try to ensure that the gas you burn passively is at least not being wasted.

>>16819660

Well, most of Rocket League's high level play goes on in the air and not on the ground.

>>16819733

>Reminder that solar power is a meme that requires a fuckload of space of solar panels to make up for the needs of the average city, resulting in the destruction of thousands of acres of land for it's installation.

The only time I can really see it working is with big deserts like the Saharan Desert but there's still the fact that panels are incredibly inefficient(One big panel is 100~200W and so you have to chain so many of them to get decent generation), faulty(If one panel fails you're probably going to lose out on a lot of power depending on your bypass setups) and the highest quality solar panels require the incredibly expensive(both in terms of energy and financially) Float Zone method meaning the better efficiency panels are

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the best panels like 20% efficiency when it comes to the amount of energy incident on them? In my opinions they're pointless unless they're being installed on like windows(Thin film) or rooftops, or smaller devices(like scientific calculators that never seem to run out of battery).

Also in the case of the Saharan I remember reading there were current attempts to grow crops there. I forget the name, Toshka or something.

>>16819748

They reduce energy costs for home owners when placed on rooftops, yeah. It could also mean you get money from the energy company if you don't use much electricity. Despite a bunch of power companies being public utilities, they didn't like that.

>>16818894

>If you have played Rocket League on macOS or Linux you can request a refund through Steam. A refund is available even if you have owned the game for more than 2 weeks or played longer than 2 hours.

Meh

>>16819185

>>16819175

Window's bootlicker.

>>16818937

>>16818960

>>16818897

Nigger we don't care about Apple we care about Linux

>>16819785

Man, Aphex Twin must really be in a rut with these new song names

>>16819992

Hey fucker what have you got against aphex twin

>>16820078

>>16819785

>The linux people are deluded

Yeah totally. Crying that you have to make flash games and crapware compatible with their OS.

Who the fuck want's to play rocketleague? It's cars combined with FIFA.

Make some decent games with genres that actually get played like shooters, open world whatevers, RPGs, racing games and NOT FUCKING TEXT BASED TRASH.

That makes a lot more sense than getting a meme game, that only holds up until grade schoolers get their parents to buy them GTA, to run on their favourite flavour of a server OS.

>>16820092

>It's cars combined with FIFA.

No it's not. I understand disliking the game(I myself quit it two years ago) but at least give off the impression that you've played it.

>>16820023

The joke is that Aphex Twin has a song named "Windowlicker"

>>16820134

>but at least give off the impression that you've played it.

But I didn't, you fanboy. It's still a soccer game.

>>16820092

>Make some decent games with genres that actually get played like shooters, open world whatevers, RPGs, racing games and NOT FUCKING TEXT BASED TRASH.

>That makes a lot more sense than getting a meme game, that only holds up until grade schoolers get their parents to buy them GTA, to run on their favourite flavour of a server OS.

Anon, you're talking about the entire FOSS community in a nutshell, where the fags care more about "function" (If you could call it that) over fashion.

And, they wonder why it is that no one wants to use the fucking thing.

>>16820166

It's a repackaged game mode from UT2004 sold as a budget indie game.