86e689 No.16817221[Last 50 Posts]
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>The Norwegian Consumer Council raised issues with Nintendo over the inability to cancel eShop pre-orders in February 2018. Following that, the German Consumer Protection Authority (VZBV) took Nintendo to court at the end of the year.
>A verdict has now been reached, and Nintendo has won the case. The German courts determined that not allowing cancellation of pre-orders is legal. Although the decision has been appealed, there may not be movement with the case for up to a year and a half.
>Once a game has been pre-loaded from the eShop, consumers are unable to cancel that purchase. Even if the game hasn’t been released, you’re still required to follow through on that order. This was thought to be in violation of Norwegian and European law, but the courts thought otherwise in this case.
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758eac No.16817225
>Even if the game hasn’t been released, you’re still required to follow through on that order.
Doesn't this mean that devs can't cancel games if it has preorders?
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60d376 No.16817261
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5498b8 No.16817277
The main problem seems to be the pre-loading part- once you've pre-loaded it, the courts are probably treating it as already in your hands. That's a vacuous interpretation but I guess Nintendo's lawyers are good at tricking judges.
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b8f858 No.16817279
Nintendo seems to have a fair amount of luck with PAL courts. I recall them winning something last year in regards to getting ISPs to forbid access to websites information on how to hack/mod Switches out there. Which isn't to say they haven't also gotten their way other times with American Courts (like them not only suing some Arizona based ROM site for millions, but the owners also being barred from ever owning Nintendo games again), but I wonder if they could get away with the same shit they have in Europe as readily here.
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86e689 No.16817281
>>16817277
This is going to lead to the same mess as "GaaS" where you DO own the game, but it's literally unplayable because the company shut down the servers required in order to play it (Along with the company sending C&D orders every time someone tries to fix the darn thing).
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cf884b No.16817343
>>16817221
>Once a game has been pre-loaded from the eShop, consumers are unable to cancel that purchase.
>pre-loaded
There's the rub, this isn't allowing game companies to refuse cancellation of pre-orders, just to refuse refund when the pre-ordered good has effectively already been delivered.
At least I hope that's the actual verdict the court reached, otherwise all you europoors out there are extra-fucked if you pre-order games
Most importantly though,
>pre-ordering games
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86e689 No.16817610
>>16817343
I'm willing to bet the court meant that, but there's no stopping companies from abusing it to mean that pre-orders cannot be cancelled no matter what.
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2b9c67 No.16817611
>>16817221
who the fuck even pre orders games
imagine being this retarded for thinking someone here would do this
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f1f2c4 No.16817616
That's some shit, but you really should suffer for pre-ordering.
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5ad738 No.16817633
>>16817225
>legal repercussions for corporate malfeasance
Where do you think you are?
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df3850 No.16818054
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3165de No.16818145
>>16817225
Didn't EA's origin store try that once?
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db95f1 No.16818156
>>16817611
there are always a hundred dickskins saying "yeah okay but I HAD TO for THIS ONE"
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a317ca No.16818170
>>16817221
Multiple European goverments thought they could defeat Nintendo lawyers. Thats cute.
Lesson here never pre order and never fuck with Nintendo. Them fuckers are evil.
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13d0cf No.16818194
>>16818170
Yakuza tend to be evil in general.
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af78be No.16818206
Reminder that pre-ordering games is just barely bellow child necrophilia on the degeneracy scale
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bdb8b8 No.16818210
>>16818194
That poor girl, still feel really down whenever that story gets mantioned.
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942815 No.16818217
>>16818156
>>16817611
>Magic: the Gathering
>Historically, full-art and foil lands have held a good price, eg going from $1 at release to $10+ after as many years
>New set, Theros: Beyond Death comes out
>But Wizards tweaks the distribution rate on pic related foils
>Now the premium packs $35 USD ea have two of them, effectively halving the value
>Dumbasses thought they could invest in them because they preordered cards from a vendor at $8, $10 a piece before even knowing what things were being distributed
>Price tanks, less than $2 a piece now, they basically lost $6+ per card
Preorders are an amazing scam
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af78be No.16818224
>>16818194
>they were simply jailed
>nobody attempted to slaughter them after they were released
Japan truly is the most cucked eastern nation
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1c475a No.16818227
>>16818217
Why did Magic make a card that looks so visually similar to the Water Energy from Pokemon TCG?
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82faa3 No.16818232
>>16818194
>>16818210
>Those sentences
I'm not a fan of vigilante justice, but the entire community should have gone full Brazil on those rats. Too bad Japs are hyperconformist cucks.
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d3224a No.16818235
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af78be No.16818237
>>16818235
>please spoonfeed me readily available information, I'm too dumb to search things by myself!
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942815 No.16818239
>>16818227
Everyone has panned them as looking like Pokemon energy, which is actually a fair criticism. However, I'm quite fond of them, because instead of having a generic landscape, they're "emblems" of the game's mana symbols, which I think looks really cool. In terms of flavor, they're in a !Greek plane called Theros, which is full of Enchantments, and these are supposed to be constellations.
I am actually gonna buy and hoard as many as I can, as long as I can get regular ones at under $0.25 and foils under $1.25
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d3224a No.16818240
>>16818237
yeah that's what I said
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a9c3fd No.16818251
>>16817611
I think the last time I preordered a game was Dark Souls.
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86e689 No.16818289
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7da315 No.16818323
>>16818289
Having a hard time believing that a chick would survive 40 days of this and then be able to play a fucking game, let alone win. Sounds romanticized for no reason, it's already horrible enough.
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172d16 No.16818349
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a9c3fd No.16818353
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cd2a6d No.16818379
>>16818237
>everything cannot be discussed
>everything must be known
Choke on a spoon, cuck.
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19affc No.16818381
>>16818323
An old story from where I live:
A guy lent money to a gypsy family.
Took a lot of convicing (because the gypsy kept "forgetting" he owed money) but eventually he paid back.
Only, a few days later, the gypsy insisted he didn't pay back a debt. He had lent money to the man. Bullshit, clear as day: the guy had a stable job, good income. The gypsy had a drug addiction and no money.
He hounds the guy for a week, he refuses to pay. So the gypsy kidnaps him at 2 AM. Just bust down his door, took him screaming, nobody knew where they went.
They got the guy to a shack in the woods. Wanted his bank cards and codes.
So the guy knows what's up. They'll take the codes, withdraw as much as they can and ran away. He gets a dumb idea: he bets against them. It's illegal, but some folks here play card games for money. He says if they'd play him, he'd make up his "debt" and clean their purses. They take it as an insult, and play him.
Now, things don't go well for him. He did win most of the games, but everytime one of the gypsies lost, they'd get angry. And stab him.
Over the course of 3 days, he got stabbed over 40 times. Legs, arms, hands and at least twice in the chest. He still manages to keep playing. They rub cheap whisky on the wounds and pull his shirt apart for bandages, but keep him on the table.
Some get so mad, they storm out, only to return later. So the guy starts edging bets against individual players. Imagine you win money from one guy, then bet that money against another. But you lose. Now you tell the first guy "hey, that fella there won your money from me". Personally, I only think this work because they were also drunk as shit. And was a dumb risky move because it implied losing more and more, to the point they'd kill him.
Luckly, he managed to do what he wanted: one of them got angry with the other. Fight breaks out, they start stabbing each other. To the point one gets scared enough he'll be shnaked, he fetches a shotgun from a truck and discharges it on another. A second later they realized that discharging a fireweapon in the woods a couple miles from a village means someone will come searching.
The guy they nabbed is slouching on the ground, half-dead from his wounds, there's 3 of them actually legit dead (one from the shot) and the remaining one flees.
They managed to save the guy, and he still has a memento from that time: one of the cards got stuck on the table by a blade and a few of the shotgun pellets pierced it, so it's this peculiar card with a slash in the middle and two small holes on a corner.
People can pull off shit like this, especially with enough adrenaline. Can they actually survive it further down the line? Very unlikely. And surviving without long-lasting effects is nearly impossible. The guy lost 40% of his intestines and limps from a leg (dead nerve).
Junko had it much worse. Even without being set on fire, she already wouldn't have a long life. Fuck, if she DID have a long life, it would be terrible and filled with pain from wounds that would never recover. Physical and mental.
Small mercy she died. It's fucked up to say it, but unfortunately, it's true.
Also: there's a reason noone went after the murderers. Their family are still Yakuza. Going after them meant signing your own death warrant. Even today, speaking ill of them is courting disgrace.
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86e689 No.16818405
>>16818404
Fuck off, journofag!
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748d2b No.16818410
They better fucking appeal this shit
or better yet
maybe this will force people to reconsider preordering shit (A long shot but every blow helps)
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33cb5d No.16818420
>>16817611
You do know this place has been normalfag-majority for almost half a decade right? And I don't mean because of the Qboomers.
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192741 No.16818610
>>16818239
>>16818217
Hey these lands look fucking rad.
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09276f No.16818695
>>16818353
>She was found to be pregnant, despite severe damage to her uterus and anus to the point the two holes became one
I shouldn't have read this
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283fed No.16818701
>>16817221
>Pre-ordering games
That is so 2010's anon. I have learned my lesson to not pre-order any games unless its from a company i trust and i know they do a great job. Every other time i wait until the game comes out, a few months later i wait to see the reviews, make my judgements from there
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a9cc39 No.16818705
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219e5f No.16818718
>>16817221
>This was thought to be in violation of Norwegian and European law, but the courts thought otherwise in this case.
>Germany still under allied occupations with tons of military here
>German courts
>not doing what the USA gov says EVERY SINGLE TIME
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219e5f No.16818719
>>16818701
>unless
>buying something that doesn't exist yet for any reason whatsoever
You're begging to get fucked over.
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384f81 No.16818725
I honestly think this is a good thing.
Now maybe EU gamers will actually reconsider pre-ordering games. Nothing else seems to have worked.
It also shows off Nintendo as the greedy fucks they really are, some anons seem to think they're not as bad as every other major vidya company.
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384f81 No.16818729
>>16818349
>he's never heard of the Junko case
Holy fuck, how young are you? I'm only 22 and even I've known about this since I was a teenager. It's easy the most famous murder case from Japan, a large reason being how lightly the murderers got off for their crimes, especially considering one of the main guys, Shinji Minato, has been re-arrested multiple times since then. Same as Miyano Hiroshi.
He's currently on trial for another attempted murder case.
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283fed No.16818752
>>16818719
Not at all. Western game devs are usually the ones fucking everyone over. Its predictable at this point and obvious. Stay away from Ubishit, NISA, EA,Sekai Project,Riot,Bethesda. Usually things are all good.
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e1193d No.16818753
Good ! It'll teach cucks who still preorders a lesson. Maybe
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af78be No.16818764
>>16818379
>He is so stupid, he cannot google the picture's filename
>attempts to call others cucks
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384f81 No.16818810
>>16818752
Stop being a retarded weeaboo, please. Japanese companies are just as bad as western ones, look Konami, Sony and all the gacha companies.
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1aebae No.16818927
>>16818810
The only reason why I tended to defend Japanese companies is because the art tends to be better than Westernized Commiefornian garbage, but then they funnel all of their art assets into fucking mobage gatchashit for profit since they're fucking companies.
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401ba2 No.16818944
>>16818810
>Sony
>implying the nips get a say
Remember, that is the company that is forcing nip devs to bend at the knee and remove anything that might offend the thin skinned faggots. Also, I wonder how much sword and shield's cluster fuck of problems at launch played a part in this.
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b12158 No.16819513
>>16817221
Corporations are a legal entity. They can't exist without government and courts. Show me where the corporation lives. Show me what it looks like.
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cd1d5b No.16819668
>>16818323
It's not like it's a physically-intensive game. She didn't need to be good at it, he just needed to be bad. Since if he boasts to everyone about how he is a high-ranking Yakuza member then it is obvious he would be surrounded by nothing but yes-men that would intentionally lose against him.
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cd1d5b No.16819674
>>16819513
Personhood for corporations exists for tax purposes and to be able to legally bring the corporation itself to court instead looking for the first employee they can find to shift the blame on. An inanimate object can't be brought to court (except when it comes to civil forfeiture, where the police actually brings an inanimate object to court and where the court actually starts talking to the stack of cash that is being charged).
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31ef5b No.16819769
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>>16819674
>this pic
>use an experiment made on " Young Infants in an Urban African Community "
what a fucking nigger
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fcba46 No.16819885
>>16819769
>things that apply to apes don't apply to humans
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31ef5b No.16819912
>>16819885
You really are a nigger aren't you?
How retarded must you be to not understand that the issue is not simply about "it was done on nigger" but more about "it was done on nigger in a nigger country"
aka: in a nigger environment
what's next ?
>studdy show that black man are preffered by your wife because they can sexually fuffil her 2 to 5x time more [study made in the depth of africa on black women]
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6eb0b4 No.16819965
>>16818237
>hey guys lets talk about game
>look it up yourself faggot
Away with you, faggotalio.
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384f81 No.16819982
>>16819674
I hate how people here actually trust bullshit orgs like the World Mercury Project. The average person is too scientifically illiterate to understand their flaws.
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2399fc No.16820185
>>16819982
It's not about understanding anything, as most folks don't even try to do that. It's about having an opinion, having no desire to change it, and then only believing things that support it. Right, left, video gamers, whatever–it's some kind of natural human mode of operation and it takes effort to rise above it.
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