1f2faf No.16816590[Last 50 Posts]
Motion and wagglan controls were just a short-lived fad. VR flopped hard. Touchscreens are only good for gachashit. Gamepads are just tweaks of the Dual Shock. Keyboard and mouse still reign supreme. Ray-tracing is just marketing bullshit. Brainwave caps have been around since the Atari days and are still unreliable pieces of shit.
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9d567b No.16816623
I'm waiting for social credit score to be integrated into the west eventually. :^)
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15f1b0 No.16816629
There's very little to actually improve with hardware you troglydite, and even presuming a meaningful change is made to hardware standards (which would already be nigh exclusive to controllers since even consumer hardware vastly outpaces the requirements of software {assuming it's optimized}) like say for example; adoption of the Objectively superior 6 facebutton model, grip buttons, accelerometer usage. It's ultimately up to developers to actually make meaningful use of the hardware (hint they won't)
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048816 No.16816635
>>16816616
Won't mean jack shit for games. The only thing quantum computers offer that's relevant to gaming is performing massively parallel computations, and all that means is you won't need a GPU to play Dwarf Fortress.
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b094b4 No.16816662
Where else is there to go besides the VR meme?
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691f8e No.16816675
>John Carmack re-enters the game engine engineering arena.
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7967ba No.16816687
>>16816590
>Touchscreens are only good for gachashit
>What are most of good games in the library of the DS and 3DS.
>What is touchscreen inventory management
As usual,OP is a faggot and a blight upon humanity.
Chodemonkey let me post
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a7b665 No.16816695
>>16816687
>What are most of good games in the library of the DS and 3DS.
Most of them are games that don't use it. I never see anyone pretending to care about old touchscreen ds games since that shit switched to fucking cell phones and nobody liked the touchscreen-only games since they controlled like shit if they weren't puzzle games. Rhythm games were fun but they definitely controlled like shit and unironically play better on a smart phone.
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ff5f4b No.16816716
>>16816687
>Best wii u feature fucking never utilized
>dropped in the next system
If it wasn't piss easy to plunk Raspberry pi into a wii u game pad, I might actually be mad.
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3f1fb8 No.16816733
>>16816590
>VR flopped hard
Yeah, so hard that companies continue to develop the hardware and games 4 years after the Oculus Rift's original release.
>Ray-tracing is just marketing bullshit
In it's current state? Yes. Because it's a hardware limited gimmick from Jewvidia. But when AMD releases their open source ray-tracing (as they've done with nearly every stupid hardware restricted gimmick that jewvidia develops) and when hardware gets to the point where what's considered budget/mid-range can run it, it'll become the norm.
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08f8f2 No.16816739
>>16816689
So the next great advance in gaming hardware is for replicating old gaming hardware.
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b40d32 No.16816746
>>16816590
>Touchscreens are only good for gachashit
Switch proves this is kinda wrong. There are a LOT of games I'd love to see ported from the DS as well, but correctly ported, like TWEWY, and touchscreens are nothing without digital/analog input anyway, is the use of the two simultaneously that makes it better. Plus literally having more than one screen.
Hardware have been stagnate for 10 years or so anyway.
>>16816695
The biggest difference between an smartphone and the DS/3DS touchscreen is having to use your hambeast fingers against the stylus.
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ff5f4b No.16816763
>>16816739
Consider how much gaming has regressed, technically, yes.
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87cb7f No.16816781
VR has even flopped as an amusement park novelty. Couldn't even pull off a dark ride affair.
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87cb7f No.16816784
>>16816746
The only point there though is that those games are attached to a novelty. I don't need another bloody picross machine.
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b40a69 No.16816789
>>16816689
>The only thing quantum computers offer that's relevant to gaming is performing massively parallel computations
>It'll be great for emulation though
>Emulation is mostly single threaded and very reliant on single thread performance
Nope.
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5cedbc No.16816796
>>16816781
Nobody wants to wear a heavy box on their face just to get treated like an infant by a patronizing $60 tech demo that looks like shit and then get motion sickness.
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b40d32 No.16816816
>>16816784
It wouldn't be a novelty if you can integrate it to newer hardware without being intrusive and without a retarded design like smartphones. The switch tried but failed. Plenty of games use the touch+input combo nicely, like the aforementioned TWEWY.
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87cb7f No.16816819
>>16816796
>motion sickness
You should not be signing up for a "ride" if you are prone to such things. Much like the many who couldn't handle Mission: SPACE or really anything of the sort. This is a fallacy and a pittance on a statistical level. If that anomaly include most gamers, however, sad as that seems, yes, you would be correct. You're talking to a cunt that got a kick out of rumble seats and eats salami sandwiches on the bow of the deck while everyone else be losing their breakfast. I'm saying, I don't think even if that tech matures it will be much more than misplaced regarding entertainment and should be only worked forward for engineering and medical tech.
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363c10 No.16816924
There's still room for improvement on the smell sensor front. Although if such technology ever comes to fruition it will mostly just be used for really bad indie fart fetish games.
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c1031c No.16816938
<VR flopped hard
<Ray tracing is a meme
>Valve index sold out
>Ray tracing is being propped up by the majority of gaymurs and tech enthusiasts and is being developed by AMD, ccucksole manufacturers and being used by most AAAs
cuckchan tier
Why do you fags pretend like something failed because you pretend like it doesn't exist?
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c1031c No.16816941
>>16816913
Fuckoff Luciano
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b40d32 No.16816972
>>16816938
>Valvedrones being valvedrones
>Meaning anything
Reminder that the preorder of the steam machine sold out back in the day: http://archive.is/nvhRx
And look how the steam machine ended. Probability is, Valve releases that Half Life VR games and then leave the thing to root. Same happened with all their previous failures like the aforementioned Steam Machine or the Steam Controller, but Valvedrones will keep paying for them.
Likewise, there's a lot of VR shit still being sold, but it's stupidly niche. It's a big flop compared to all the noise it was making some years ago.
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6143e5 No.16816999
>>16816972
Also something to consider
VR dudes usually own more than one headset, especially if they've had it for a long time
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f7cce2 No.16817004
>>16816938
VR is a fucking meme and Ray Tracing doesn't mean jack fucking shit if the games aren't fucking good.
>>16816999
Checked.
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334117 No.16817007
>>16816972
>It doesn't count because it was made by a company I don't like
Yeah. Nothing Valve makes flops, because of those gosh darn Valve drones.
t. Man living under a rock for the last 6 years.
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334117 No.16817012
>>16817007
I have to add on to this. How delusional and out of touch with reality has this board gotten? The steam controller flopped, the steam box flopped, dota underlords flopped, artifact flopped, the vive flopped, paid mods flopped, for the first time in history they have to address one of steams competitors. Has Valve had a single success since DotA 2? Everything between then and the Index has been a complete flop.
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951e49 No.16817014
>>16816689
>great for emulation
isn't emulation mostly a serial task bound by single-core performance because maintaining state synchronized across cores is hellisly complicated?
>>16816695
>nobody liked the touchscreen-only games since they controlled like shit
not only that. the worst part is scratches build up with use, and cleaning the screen before every use is a hassle, but if you don't bother you'll get even more scratches.
>>16816746
>There are a LOT of games I'd love to see ported from the DS as well
if you're talking about game in your pic, its controls are in a dire need of an overhaul.
>UI is awful (why do I have to drag and touch shit in menus when physical buttons could work? need to TOUCH ARROWS to add increase item counts, why aren't there per unit buttons or a keypad? why isn't there a buy max button?)
>no shortcut or auto option for restocking consumables (e.g. food)
>when hunting circle detection is iffy (a U or C works, but if you cross the drawn outline it suddenly doesn't)
>touchscreen controls both interactions and panning simultaneously, meaning if you touch near the edge the camera will scroll
>dragging digimon when they're moving or close together or obscured by an object is a pain
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6143e5 No.16817017
>>16817012
Their Linux stuff is pretty good. Save for steam VR which is quarantined to beta because they pulled the devs to work on HL:A
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87cb7f No.16817036
>>16816938
From my point of view, it's just more slav garbage modded on to an otherwise decent piece of vidya. You best know what I'm talking of if you're going to show up acting all knowing.
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b40d32 No.16817040
>>16817007
It isn't just the company, faggot, I clearly stated that VR is still being sold, but you can get a fucking 15$ headset on walmart, and as a different person said, people already into it buy different headsets. However, it isn't as mainstream as people thought it was going to be, and it sure as hell it isn't profitable. If you depend on your drones in order to keep yourself afloat, that's called a niche.
Valve constantly tries to appeal to niche, and even though it flops, they still makes the investment back because of drones.
>>16817014
I'm actually playing it right now, and of course, it would need A LOT of work, but the concept is pretty neat, it just need a few improvements here and there. I still think that the game can work faster for the touchscreen, but adding more elements to help such as with the UI and have more actual buttons input integrated would make the work better.
I'd also love second pic related.
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b40d32 No.16817042
File: 2a5d55ee7da26de⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 178.36 KB, 640x569, 640:569, 2a5d55ee7da26deaa78c4ca5d7….png)
>>16817040
I realized that I fucked up by posting that pic, but it's too late already.
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2c1beb No.16817047
>>16817040
>>16817042
>not just goybook, but with what looks to be some old-ass MLP icon for it
>IGGgames
I don't think it's possible to bully you as hard as you deserve over the internet. Please post your address so we can send a bully team over.
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4baf20 No.16817072
>>16817040
>facebook
how did you find your way here?
>>16817047
>some old-ass MLP icon for it
and how exactly do you know that? both of you disgust me
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b40d32 No.16817073
>>16817072
I don't have a phone, anon, and I need to contact some faggots for job related reasons. The reason I do have the MLP icon is because I used to have it when I actually used facebook some years ago.
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37ad6a No.16817077
>>16817073
>The reason I do have the MLP icon is because I used to have it when I actually used facebook some years ago.
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2c1beb No.16817080
>>16817072
>and how exactly do you know that?
Ae you telling me you didn't troll the fuck out of bronies back in the day? You have to know to basics to do that.
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268337 No.16817098
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2c1beb No.16817113
>>16817098
https://gitgud.io/Blank/stv/raw/m/Investigation_into_igg_games_and_gamestorrent.pdf
There's multiple very good reasons they're blacklisted from the share threads, newfag. Their bitcoin miners and in-game advertising not being the least.
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268337 No.16817129
>>16817113
Thanks for setting everyone straight on my little pony symbolism
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9d567b No.16817168
Shitposting aside, outside of I/O and business model I'm not seeing any real advancements in computer hardware. They say the cloud is the future. Even the cloud is a gigantic computer system daisy chained by smaller computers.
There is the idea of a computer organism. It's like a computer system but the components are full computers with operating systems rather than chips.
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908c5c No.16817183
>spinners: dead
>heavy trackballs: dead
>lightguns: dead
>vector monitors: dead
>games that you actually physically punch: dead
why do they even make video games anymore
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ca9994 No.16817220
>>16817183
To be fair I'm glad that trackballs are gone, I've never used one that works accurately. They seem like one of those things that breaks easily. I'm not sure what you call them but what I'd like to see are these little rotating wheels you may see with some vector games, but I remember it most with Arkanoid. It's so responsive and smooth that it's insanely satisfying to use.
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9d567b No.16817320
>>16817220
I think those are panel dials?
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8a746f No.16817326
>>16817040
>However, it isn't as mainstream as people thought it was going to be, and it sure as hell it isn't profitable.
Anyone who thought it was going to revolutionize the industry was delusional. At most it would've been the equivalent of PC gaming in the 90s-early 00s. Pushing the hardware to the limits but not normalfag tier
>Valve constantly tries to appeal to niche, and even though it flops, they still makes the investment back because of drones.
Except for all the examples I listed here. >>16817012 They had to give away their steam controllers, because nobody wanted them.
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8a5aef No.16817331
>>16817326
Well, actually the reason they totally liquidated their controllers is that they're planning on releasing a new one. Even hiked the price on the steam controller to above what it was after it had sold out for a few seconds before totally delisting.
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c4e0d4 No.16817400
VR is sweet, it's just too expensive for the mass market which is what these things need to survive.
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c4e0d4 No.16817402
>>16816623
>what is credit score (in the US)
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c4e0d4 No.16817713
>>16817183
What's your top score on that machine? I love em.
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ccb0bb No.16817774
>>16816616
They already exist to some degree, but they won't really be useful nor realistic for the average customer.
There are tons of reason for that, but mainly quantum computers won't be much better at the kind of things the average person does. If you want to do extremely tedious mathematical calculations, that a quantum computer is great. If you want to play vidya, code and use the internet then you should stick with a classical computer.
Quantum computers also require being chilled to near absolute zero. This is cumbersome, expensive, delicate and quite dangerous.
This is what QCs look like, all of this is basically just a giant CPU.
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8a746f No.16817818
>>16817331
>Well, actually the reason they totally liquidated their controllers is that they're planning on releasing a new one.
So what you're saying is it flopped and they had to give them away because nobody wanted them. If the thing wasn't flopping then they wouldn't have to sell it for the price of a subway sandwich. Doesn't matter if they wanted a new model. When a new model comes out and companies phase out the old ones, they might slash the price, but they don't slash it 90% unless it was a complete turd.
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6e7ad8 No.16817825
>>16817774
The Orokin are here?
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1adb72 No.16817826
>>16816695
Your lack of knowledge of the DS/3DS library is truly showing with this post.
>I never see anyone pretending to care about old touchscreen ds games since that shit switched to fucking cell phones and nobody liked the touchscreen-only games since they controlled like shit if they weren't puzzle games. Rhythm games were fun but they definitely controlled like shit and unironically play better on a smart phone.
At times I wonder if I'm on half-chan when I stumble upon posts like these. I suppose that TWEWY, Bomberman Land Touch 1&2, the Trauma Center series, Pokemon Ranger or Inazuma Eleven games were total unplayable garbage on a DS, and need a android/iOS version to be good?
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a7b665 No.16817842
>>16817826
>At times I wonder if I'm on half-chan when I stumble upon posts like these.
Go back to reddit then.
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4d1b9e No.16817851
>>16817818
Granted, yes, after ps4 controllers got support for steaminput bindings it had a pretty big knock on sales, the controller sold decently well up until that point. Decently enough that there are workings with a new one.
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3829af No.16818148
>>16817774
>This is what QCs look like, all of this is basically just a giant CPU.
Afaik the actual quantum CPUs are about the same size as a standard CPU. In the third pic, it's inside the enclosure full of wires at the bottom. Most of the paraphernalia in these pics is part of the cooling equipment, and also what we'd call the motherboard in a standard CPU.
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73acfc No.16818841
>>16816635
>implying dwarf fortress at 144fps isn't the next evolution in gaming
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b40d32 No.16818849
>>16817842
I've realize that people who shit on the touch screen are the ones that usually just emulate and never have had a DS/3DS. No shit you are going to complain if you have to use the fucking mouse for the touchscreen function, faggot.
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44c386 No.16818868
>>16818849
And even then, the mouse is better than the stylus.
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b40d32 No.16818870
>>16818868
Good, anon, you made me reply to bait.
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bdb9e9 No.16818889
>>16818870
>ctrl-F
>no intellivision
I'm still wondering if it will be vaporware but at least it's someone trying to change things up.
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bdb9e9 No.16818890
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
And apparently remakes are planned.
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a7b665 No.16818917
>>16818849
I've owned several DS with an acekard2i and a GBA supercard you fucking nintendrone retard, the DS is a half-assed hand-cramping fuck machine.
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4af871 No.16818932
Is a need for hardware improvements really going to mean fuckall if we are stuck with bloated buggy software that will crash computers, spy on you, and constantly need updates? Even if we do get tachyon processing its just going to be used to promote gender studies and marxist propaganda. Wanting better hardware seems like it is just a band aid for the bigger issue of how inefficient and uncreative people are using the hardware we have now.
>>16817183
super table flip is our only hope
>>16818889
>>16818890
Seems like vaporware so far.
Does anyone else watch Stopdropretro ?
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4af871 No.16818933
>>16818917
What is the best card for a 3DS?
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b40d32 No.16818934
>>16818889
That looks like it could work.
>>16818917
>It's bad because my ham beast hands didn't let me play it well :(
You should have had a DS XL, but I doubt you are that bright not to mention that the XL models fucked up the aspect ratio and made games look bad when they were intended for small screensBut that's what hambeasts gets.
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a7b665 No.16818948
>>16818934
I don't buy countless hand cramp models just to cramp my hands you fucking idiot.
>>16818933
Why the fuck would I know, I softmodded mine. Last I heard you could still do that but the 3DS is like every new portable in that updates were released solely to fuck pirating.
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a7b665 No.16818951
>>16818934
And where the fuck does this "hamhand" shit comes from? All of my family has had problems with shitty handhelds and hand cramps, they're not designed for human hands in general past the gbc or gba since the designs are fucked from being wide thin plastic bricks.
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b40d32 No.16818954
>>16818948
>>16818951
You sound mad, handbeast. Lose a few pounds and try playing again.
>Why the fuck would I know, I softmodded mine
You can't play DS games without a flashcart in the 3DS. CFW only works for virtual stuff including 3DS games but, as far as I'm aware, accessing DS mode was never possible directly in the 3DS without inserting a DS game in the console, in this case the flashcart.
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f7cce2 No.16818958
>>16818932
>Wanting better hardware seems like it is just a band aid for the bigger issue of how inefficient and uncreative people are using the hardware we have now.
This pretty much the main issue.
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a7b665 No.16818962
>>16818954
Nintendrones like you must be overweight and project their asses off if they love using hamhands as an argument, I guess Mark can attest to that.
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b40d32 No.16818964
>>16818962
Well, seeing how not even Mark or myself don't have problems with Nintendo handhelds, then you must be the problem, anon.
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a7b665 No.16818969
>>16818964
It could also be that you're lying to yourself.
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951e49 No.16818970
>>16818933
>using 3DS flashcarts
imagine being this dumb
>>16818954
>You can't play DS games without a flashcart in the 3DS
<what's twilight menu++
>>16818964
The 3DS(XL) family of systems indeed causes hand cramps. You sort of get used to it but it's still uncomfotable as fuck.
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a7b665 No.16818975
>>16818970
>You sort of get used to it but it's still uncomfotable as fuck.
Your hands certainly don't, it can't be healthy for your arteries holding that shit for long periods of time.
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b40d32 No.16818984
>>16818970
>what's twilight menu++
I don't know, anon, I stopped using the 3DS a long time ago so I'm not up with the scene. If they managed to find a way to actually play DS games without flashcarts, then that's cool. Now if they could find new exploits for the fucking Switch, that'd be nice.
>The 3DS(XL) family of systems indeed causes hand cramps
Again, I wouldn't know, anon, I was more than happy with the regular DS lite and 3DS.
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951e49 No.16819209
>>16818933
I misread. Good DS mode flashcarts are R4i Gold 3DS Plus, Ace3DS X, Ace3DS Plus. There are a few more, but I forgot their names.
By the way, the R4i-SDHC (RTS, RTS LITE 20XX, GOLD 20XX) cards are not worth it, they have time bombs that are set to expire in 2023. You can use ysmenu to bypass that, but at that point why not get a non-crippled cart.
>>16818849
>I've realize that people who shit on the touch screen are the ones that usually just emulate and never have had a DS/3DS
fuck off. if it didn't require constant cleaning and didn't scratch so easily maybe it would be worth using. The scratches are not normally visible, but if you flash a light with the screen off they show, and it only gets worse.
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5bc7d8 No.16819220
>>16816938
>all these tech illiterate tech companies are working on thing and a bunch of movies feature it therefore it has succeeded
No, you're the cuckchan.
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8a5aef No.16819253
>>16819209
Scratching was mostly an issue with third party styluses, something you should do if you have a resistive touch screen (beyond, obviously jamming the stylus obscenely hard into it, or getting a screen protector) you should sand down the tip of the stylus to get it nice and smooth.
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951e49 No.16819271
>>16819253
>screen protector
<$20 for a screen protector (after customs, tax, shipping)
no fucking way in hell. I'd much rather buy a 2DS new than waste money on that shit.
>sand down the tip of the stylus
guess I could try.
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