/v/ - Video Games

Merged with the machine and became cyber god, bro died though.

>>16815930

wrong thread anon

Sneaky denton that tries not to kill.

Frying all technology.

>choosing anything other than the dark age ending

>>16816041

<choosing an ending

Ironman it on 40s and mines.

>>16816071

Wonder if there will be anything related to Doos Sex

I hope not

>>16816074

At E3, I forgot to add

Dark Ages ending because it's so fun to hear everyone, except Tong, freak out as you blow everything up.

>>16815922

I played aggressively and murdered NSF agents because they called me "fascist". After the twist, I continued murdering everyone.

I never appreciated how sick the music in this game was until the 8ch SS13 server threw this on the jukebox. Yeah, I heard it all, but it never really sunk in until I heard it outside of the game. Honestly I get kinda sad when I listen to this song. It really reflects Deus Ex. There's just something unique about it that wont be seen again.

>>16815930

Is it wrong that all I want is a remake? I want a remake because I want to see modern devs try to recreate the original clusterfuck of a game.

>>16816174

When I think of DX, I think first of the title track and then of the first-time-around NYC streets combat music. The first because it's the first thing you hear and it's iconic for that reason, and the second because it doesn't sound like it should fit in the game at all, and somehow it still does. The goofy sound effects helped. It's funny that it all sounds strange outside the game, but it works when you're actually playing it.

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>>16815930

Just looked up his list of work. Having a game from any of these would be super hype.

Tyrian: Composer, level designer, writer

Tyrian 2000: Composer

Jazz Jackrabbit 2: Music

Jazz Jackrabbit 2 : The Secret Files Music

Jazz Jackrabbit 2 : Holiday Hare 98 Music

Jazz Jackrabbit 2 : The Christmas Chronicles Music

Jazz Jackrabbit 3: Music (canceled game)

Extreme Pinball: Sound effects

Unreal: Music (with Michiel van den Bos and minor contributions by Dan Gardopée and Andrew Sega)

Unreal Mission Pack: Return to Na Pali: Music (with Michiel van den Bos)

Unreal Tournament: Music (with Dan Gardopée, Michiel van den Bos, and Andrew Sega)

Vigilante 8: Nintendo 64 Music (with Dan Gardopée)

Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense: Nintendo 64 Music (with Dan Gardopée)

Dark Vengeance: Music

Pretzel Pete: Music (with Dan Gardopée)

NARC: Audio manager

Deus Ex: Music (with Michiel van den Bos and minor contributions by Dan Gardopée)

Deus Ex: Invisible War: Audio Director, sound effects, music, VO

Thief: Deadly Shadows: VO, cinematic post sound effects

Activision Anthology GBA: Title music

Unreal 2: Additional music (with Clint Bajakian, Jack Wall and Crispin Hands)[6]

Battlestar Galactica Xbox: In-game music

Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows: Audio Director, VO, music, sound effects

>>16816186

The very first part always reminded me of the windows 98 bootup sound

>>16816189

Now Tyrian had some good tracks. I actually would put the little sound test widget in the background sometimes back in the day. But the decision to hide almost all the plot (such as it was I admit) in optional collectables (in a once-through shmup no less) was ahead of its time and not in a good way. I kinda wish some nobody would remake Tyrian. It doesn't really ache for it, and it's not the kind of shooter people like these days, but it'd be nice to see for nostalgia reasons.

>I'm like the Russian researcher who contracted his own virus. They want to study the way I die.

Was this line referring to a real person?

>>16816259

I know something really similar in some Asian country. A nuclear blast went off in a room with like 5-6 people in it but one survived. He had no skin and a single white blood cell. He was in unimaginable pain, but they kept him alive to study him. I think he lived 3 days. There's pictures of him in the operating room floating around. Probably the creepiest thing I've seen in my life.

>>16816259

>>16816263

His name was Hisashi Ouchi

>>16816189

Alexander Brandon made amiga mod music back during the mod scene days, that's why all of his DOS shit sounds like it was ripped from an Amiga demo.

Killed everyone and everything and then put the world off the grid.

Never used augmentations because being autistic as usual I saved resources until I finished the game and ended up not using them.

>>16816174

>>16816199

>>16816205

I want to go back

Melee weapons and explosives. Ending as the singularity.

>>16816263

83 DAYS

>>16816266

Do you think he said ouchie a lot while he was dying for almost 3 months?

>>16816332

It wouldn't be so bad if every game wasn't a fucking competitive meme game. Now it's all about whoever can pick the most broken shit in the game and memorize the per-determined strats the best. Instead of actually playing the fucking game.

>>16816339

You get banned by the devs themselves if you use certain strats or certain content.

Society has become a fucking joke

>>16816294

Those ancient memes they were watching at the end.

>>16816342

I heard of league doing that. What other games did this?

>>16816347

Overcuck, Call of Duty, Fallout 76 and Rainbow Seven Siege for example

It really depends on the devs, MCC PC, Fortnite and Mordhau for example are pretty lenient far as I know

It's so bad you get banned for finding or exploiting glitches now, not just a slap on the wrist from a certain server like in the old days, no you get banned from playing their game.

>>16816352

When you said strats I thought you meant literally playing the game as intended and getting banned. I remember a dev in League banned someone on his team in the draft stage, because he picked a champion that wasn't meta. Like he picked a traditional carry to do the support or some shit like that.

>It's so bad you get banned for finding or exploiting glitches now, not just a slap on the wrist from a certain server like in the old days, no you get banned from playing their game.

I think the funniest example of this was Fallout 76. Every newer Bethesda game has a development room with every item int he game and they left one in Fallout 76. From what I understand this was suppose to be an MMO were you spend 100s of hours grinding gear, and yet if you did the right glitches you could get it all within minutes of playing. Bethesda's devs were too fucking retarded to figure out how to just REMOVE THE FUCKING ROOM, so they had all sorts of janky fixes. Attempts to make the room inaccessible, banning everyone who was within the room, etc. None of them worked. Honestly it blows my mind how game developers can be so incompetent, there was a day when they were the cream of the crop in terms of software devs.

>>16815922

I sneaked and put everyone to sleep, and I can't remember being happy about any of the endings because I tried them all out.

What a shame.

>>16816156

To be fair, the triads are probably best set up to take over after the dust settles.

>>16816518

Desperate.

>>16816356

If they were ever the cream of the crop, it was because they had to work wonders with limited hardware, over and over again in different ways for each new generation of hardware. Whether it was working in tiny memory spaces or with tiny physical media or with shitty early 3D rendering, or whatever else at the time. What passes for problem solving these days is usually of the order you're pointing out, like working within the limitations of some silly software engine. I guess also there're just a lot MORE of them out there and the average ability to solve problems is probably lower because of that. It's not something that's exactly selected for by the industry any longer. Of course, I'm just talking out of my ass, but it's probably fine.

>>16817068

> I guess also there're just a lot MORE of them out there and the average ability to solve problems is probably lower because of that.

I don't know about game programming, but it cannot be any better than the rest of the enterprise software world. Management wants programmers who can easily be replaced, so that usually means that everything has to be built around the lowest common denominator.

A lot of programmers know little more than what they learned at school, and so you get to just throw shit at the screen until is kind of sort of works (i.e. passes all the automated tests and a code review by someone who is no more competent than you). It does not matter if the way the work done is inefficient and will end up costing the company more money in the log run, all that matters is that we can keep pushing on for the time being.

Video games used to have the advantage that you would release the game, perhaps patch it around for a couple of months, and then be done with it. However, in the modern age where every game is expected to run for years this approach breaks down. Every Elder Scrolls and Fallout game has been broken garbage, but there was always a point when the game was done, shipped, and left for modders to finish. Fallout 76 on the other hand requires continuous support, something Bethesda never had to deal with and something they are not equipped to do. It looks as if they approached Fallout 76 with the same mindset as their previous games, and now they are paying the price for it.

My favorite playthroughs were stealth combat. I've ghosted and gone through blasting everything with the sniper rifle and white phosphorous rockets, but the best is baton+peppergun. Some gimmick runs were fun, too: only use the crowbar, or the sawed-off shotgun you find in mission one. These are loud, underpowered options, which don't recommend themselves to any serious purpose.

It was always a dead certainty to me that the Helios ending was the obviously correct choice. For 15 years I couldn't conceive of any reason why you would want to hand things over to the Illuminati, much less blow everything up. Lately I'm not so sure Tong was totally retarded.

>>16818457

Why contain it?

>>16818829

The thing about Tong's ending is that it's pretty much what you said, starting over again. There's absolutely nothing stopping some other corporation and some other Bob Page to try this shit all over again. And of course, fuck the illuminati I don't trust you for jack shit.

Honestly, I'd rather have the super intelligent AI govern us than the typical clique of out of touch faggots thing that has repeated itself over and over again. I believe that even if it doesn't have humanity's growth as it's top priority it could totally do a better job than what we've been having thus far, and I'm willing to take the bet that it's trying to kill itself or us all for super intelligent AI reasons.

>>16818829

Yeah, the whole Daedalus/Icarus/Helios thing is based on IRL glownigger tech. Alex mentions it being based on ECHELON.

<Two internal NSA newsletters from January 2011 and July 2012, published as part of the Snowden-revelations by the website The Intercept on 3 August 2015, for the first time confirmed that NSA used the code word ECHELON and provided some details about the scope of the program: ECHELON was part of an umbrella program code named FROSTING, which was established by the NSA in 1966 to collect and process data from communications satellites.

You'd merge with it and suddenly be like "we need to give more money to israel."

I played mine this way

>killed every guard "alone" to get pistol ammo

>trepassed every no access shit

>blow up the hostages 10 times in my attempts to kill everyone at subway station

>>16819156

Also by 1200 soldiers across seven states, I mean 1200 in total and not for each state. The states were California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. Texas and Utah were labelled as hostile, while California, Nevada and Colorado were friendly. Arizona and New Mexico were labelled as uncertain.

>>16819156

ECHELON was known of before, it was merely confirmed by the Snowden leaks. The phrase "conspiracy theory" was invented to discredit people leaking shit about the government's doings (besides crazy people spouting 100% crazy shit like aliens and time travelers, some of them pushed into believing it more).

I've done 2 playthroughs recently, one a stealth pistol/heavy weapons hybrid that's actually much more powerful than it sounds and probably the most powerful build because it can handle any situation, and one straight action rifle/shotgun build with no training in lockpicking, devices or hacking that made me realize the assault rifle chews ammo like a motherfucker and doesn't even do that much more damage than a well-upgraded pistol.

I did both with the Give Me Deus Ex mod which is definitely faithful graphically, basically looks the way you remember the original looking other than some obvious changes to TV screens and signs. It lets you put a silencer on the starting pistol which I thought was OP and made the stealth pistol obsolete, but it also adds some new weapon mod kits including a full auto mod kit that can make the stealth pistol into a ridiculously powerful auto-pistol so I think it evens out.

Elephant in the room: Do you use passwords and codes that you already know or do you make a point to "learn" them on every playthrough?

>>16819156

If by "known about" you mean "believed in" then probably they did not. The author was a shitlib to some degree, and it's only by bizarre, mostly-recent phenomena like the Snowden leaks that a lot of the "conspiracy theories" in the game are now established fact.

Also, I misquoted earlier: it was Jock that broached the subject:

<Copters. You know what I think? I think that's where the UN moved Echelon IV, back when they promised they were going to stop spying on people.

>implying the government would ever make such a promise, lol

>>16819210

Kinda the latter. I tried to verify that every challenge had a corresponding solution. There's that closet in the Osgood and Sons building with the aug upgrade in it, for example. Keypad. No idea how you would know the combination for that one, but it probably is written down somewhere.

>>16819154

>trepassed every no access shit

Speaking of places we're not supposed to go, what are everyone's out-of-bounds experiences? The few I remember:

FORBIDDEN CITY in Hong Kong There was a hard-to-reach map transition over the river-gate near the sampan, full of unlit, broken geometry that was left in the release.

One of the desert levels had walls that you could climb up using grenades and escape into the wilderness.

And of course, in Wan Chai you could climb one of the skyscrapers and see Max Chen just standing there. And also enter Tong's compound before Gordon Quick gives you the entry code.

>blow up the hostages 10 times in my attempts to kill everyone at subway station

I can't believe what I just read. Those were innocents; you can't just go in and shoot everywhere!

>>16819203

Speaking of discrediting people, guess what shows up when you type Jade Helm 15 into Google or Wikipedia

What do you think about this revew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxOKEsBx4NU&t=14s

>>16819397

>Alex Jones

>Redpill

Why do people do this?

>>16830744

The entire concept of "redpill" is about feeling superior to the ignorant masses, people latching to the dumbest nonsense as if it was the ultimate truth aren't a surprise.

You should have predicted this.

You could have prevented this.

Yo DX dudes, check this shitout

>>1682869

>>16815922

>How did you play your Denton?

Heavy weapons, fuck everything

>Which ending did you pick?

I saved before and picked all of them

>>16830889

nigga this is a barely playable pre-alpha why even post this why waste people's time

>>16833967

Yes goy merge all of humanity into one consciousness so true democracy can be achieved.

I'm not all that against it in theory but I don't trust the AI to not screw up at some point. Atleast with media blackout the chaos will stop the (((Illuminati)))'s hand for a while.

>spoiler

Why bother killing him at that point, he deserves to see his dreams stolen from him.

>>16834047

When I was younger I used to think the AI merge ending was the best out of the three, but nowadays the new dark age sounds like the better choice. Its pretty wacky thinking about how advertising platforms have as much influence over individuals as they do, and they aren't even full-fledged AI's.

heres a really interesting podcast about ai and robotics https: //anchor.fm/knowledgewithoutcollege/episodes/KWC-030-Patrick-Ryan-e3p0p9

also is breaking links still suggested?

>>16834125

Just get rid of the connection protocol if you don't want to hotlink and are worried about referers. That way you don't have to include any awkward formatting or whitespaces.

anchor.fm/knowledgewithoutcollege/episodes/KWC-030-Patrick-Ryan-e3p0p9

>>16815922

Played Deus Ex hot on the heels of finishing a marathon of thief 1-3, so I played very sneaky. mode.

Put points into pistols, rifles, lockpicks and electronics. Modded the pistol, crossbow, and sniper rifle extensively. Used the targeting, radar cloak, and leg upgrades. Pretty much only used lams as mines. Mostly knocked out people who I thought weren't really in my way, like the marines in the boat base. Saved Paul, learned both mech killphrases, saved the guy's daughter, took out the mechanic in the illuminati compound. Merged with Helios because I just wanted sneak from the conflict and help people, accidentally became god.

>>16830710

>why send JC into the statue?

Because it was a test of JC's ability and Bob "why contain it?" Page probably doesn't care about the vaccine anyway.

>you can't non-lethal MIBs

except with nonlethal weapons, ffs.

>if this game was made today, Smuggler's Den would be DLC

He's probably right; DX was largely good by accident.

>why not report UNATCO other authorities?

That would be an amusing plot branch. It's like reporting a corrupt politician to whatever TLA law enforcement agency that happens to own the politician. So instead of quitting UNATCO you get shuffled from MJ12 front group #1 to MJ12 front group #2, thinking that you've changed sides and you're with the good guys now. Real Man Who Was Thursday stuff.

>…or quit your job?

Obviously they'd just trigger the killswitch. If JC actually did flee and cut contact completely, he wouldn't even know why he's sick or that he's going to die.

>why do flashlights require batteries? why didn't this small team model 50 different chinamen? why isn't this a realistic simulation of urban sprawl?

why do youtubers have to be so goddamned stupid?

His commentary around 20:00 was good. Yes: DX is best when you delve into all the side content and you aren't too much of a microbrain to appreciate it. And the "hey, this game turns out to be right about a lot of stuff" material is awesome.

>wanna know who's gonna win the next election? Money. That's who's gonna win.

top kek, I <3 democracy

He's also right that "conspiracies" are more the open secret kind, and not the secret meetings five miles below area 51 kind.

<videogame review diverges into 9/11 hatefacts

lolling irl

>>16816174

God damn, i was about to say it sounds like a song you'd hear in bejeweled, and the mother fucker actually did the soundtrack to Bejeweled 3.

>>16830710

Ross' content in general is pretty great. His point about the 'grounded cyberpunk' feel is pretty dead-on. Also when he's taking fat shits on the media always cheers me up. The deus ex was right bit is pretty genius. It's kind of a shame we don't get more mod content that ties into the original itself.

>>16833871

because when you have a barely playable pre-alpha, you can post your suggestions and have them easily implemented, nigga. not to mention dudes seem to be having fun with it

Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are both ok! Adam Jensen is a pretty cool guy (no homo)!

>>16834465

This, but unironically

Just finished the tutorial

What difficulty should my first playthrough be

>>16835213

On realistic you can (in a few instances) get oneshotted by snipers who, because you don't know where literally everything in the game is, will probably spot you before you spot them. Other enemies from the midgame onward will have automatic weapons that will shred you in the time it takes to fill your hand. Many situations require more preparation and sensible tactics than reflexes and sheer rip-and-tear if you're to come out without taking a lot of damage.

If any of that sounds like unfair, unfun bullshit, then I'd recommend the difficulty below realistic.

>>16834206

All you have is some sloppy feeling basic movement, the ability to hang on ledges, a subway station with some basic enemies, and the tiniest inkling of a stealth system. All of this could have been made by following a tutorial online. There's nothing to see and nothing to be said. I can't give you advice on a house when you're still deciding how to lay the foundation.

>>16815930

JC Denton in Smash

>>16836751

Paradoxically, the only way to get the experience of $my_favorite_thing is to throw out most of one's assumptions and start from scratch. This requires a lot of creativity, which is a muscle people don't know how to flex anymore. We're the generation that's watched so much porn we can't even masturbate to pictures inside our heads, after all. It also requires a degree of mental freedom which most have had utterly beaten out of them by the diversity police.

So while it is possible, social pressures are so much against it that it'll only happen when people like us make it happen.

Is there a way to lock the mouse into the full screen window on GMDX? I'm on double monitors and it drifts to the other screen causing problems

>>16836800

I don't remember whether the game had borderless windowed and whether I played with it or not but if it does, that shouldn't be happening.

It's an old game though so just play on full screen. I'm pretty sure your PC can handle tabbing to another window. It's not a source game.

>>16836799

>We're the generation that's watched so much porn we can't even masturbate to pictures inside our heads, after all

Speak for yourself, coomer. I haven't blunted my sex drive by overexposure despite fapping once a day, which tells me that people who have must be really overindulging.

>>16835213

Finished the first mission

Seems like I can knock people out instantly by smacking them in the back when I'm right behind them, so I guess I want to spec into melee damage for my no kill run.

I think sneaking around and taking people out one by one is actually easier than shooting them anyway.

>>16837864

Specialize. You can specialize in just about anything and should be fine.

>>16837881

I always ended up hitting myself with the pepperspray, so I kept the prod for a long while.

>>16815922

>playstyle

Guns blazing because I couldn't make stealth work.

>ending

AI symbiosis. I'm not fond of the idea of literally merging with AI rather than just working together with them, and the dark age definitely sounded like a Kaczynskiesque utopia, but I knew that if I went that way the kikes would eventually recover and screw everyone over again, so I opted for the Galactic Lebensraum.

>>16837155

My post wasn't clear but I'm on fullscreen, not borderless window. For some reason my mouse can still drift to the other screen and minimize the game if I click

>>16836800

Use the OpenGL renderer instead of DirectX.

>>16838310

>because the game doesn’t allow you to spare them

It does, though.

>>16838310

>The game seems to think I kill people even though the bodies I leave behind are specifically labeled as 'unconscious'.

The game's not always very smart about how it interprets JC's behavior. For example:

>Mission starts, anna spawns a few feet away

>jump around and hose her with pepperspray while she tries to tell me my mission objectives

>she doesn't rub her eyes, but the pepper gets her to back off momentarily

>flee into the secret vending machine entrance

>anna's pathfinding can't get in, so she stands there looking in like a sad puppy

>enter castle clinton through the back

>spook through to the front entrance, open the door, recede into shadows

>anna rushes in to tell me the mission objectives

>notices terrorists; does not neglect precious opportunity

>all the terrorists in the area run directly into the anna navarre meat grinder

>the courtyard of castle clinton is a graveyard

>I'm still crouched behind a garbage can holding my peppergun

>finally let anna talk to me

<You are not afraid to kill!

IIRC, that particular scene determines how the NPCs react to you after the mission, and it has little if anything to do with your actual bodycount.

>arm aug

The strength aug lets you lift huge crates, which gives you some more options when constructing "staircases" and is fun for screwing around with. The combat aug might be useful when enemies are beefier later on. I would almost always recommend strength, but in a melee-centric build you have an actual choice on your hands.

>>16836751

v9 or v10?

>>16830889

I'll check it out sometime this week. Not gunna expect much, but I'll let you know if it has potential.

>>16833871

Ever wonder why studios stopped releasing alphas and opted for just releasing broken games without any community input and patching it later?

>>16838510

>a free state whose citizens can own property, make a profit, and get cock-slapped by Louis Pan with total impunity. Also, stay out of Anal Road, there are a bunch of community leaders and family men with swords having a gang fight down there.

>>16838395

Well I guess I brutally murdered dogs in cold blood

>>16838402

>The game's not always very smart about how it interprets JC's behavior

Yeah, I knocked out a newsreporter and my boss said I killed a civilian, and some other guy said I shouldn't be focusing on bodycount when JC Denton said that he cleaned up

<You are not afraid to kill

Wait, so of all the people she and the soldiers killed are counted as my kills?

>The combat aug might be useful when enemies are beefier later on

How good is the maxed out melee skill? Is it good enough that I wouldn't need the combat aug

>>16838757

>Yeah, I knocked out a newsreporter and my boss said I killed a civilian, and some other guy said I shouldn't be focusing on bodycount when JC Denton said that he cleaned up

Well, some characters are are at odds with each other no matter what. What I meant was that some of the dialogue is selected based on somewhat arbitrary flags that track whether specific NPCs are dead or not. That is, the game doesn't remember how they died or who killed them.

>How good is the maxed out melee skill? Is it good enough that I wouldn't need the combat aug

I think you might need both if you go stealth. Advanced or master skill should be enough otherwise.

>>16838757

Melee is pretty good, especially once you get Dragon's Tooth.

>>16839699

You have to knock up everyone

Mission 3 complete

It seems like the only person who can tell the difference between knocking a person out and killing them is a gang leader. I was a little suprised that cyborg looking drug dealer was so easy to knock unconscious, especially considering that it doesn't work on another cyborg later on.

I managed to knock Juan Lebedev out before cyborgslut shot him to death, but the game considers that a kill. Seems like I have to let him die to maintain a no kill run, which at this point seems pointless because the game already thinks I've killed people.

I think I'm going to just kill the russian woman. At first I thought she was invincible but I've reloaded a few times and she can be killed with lams or rockets. Apparenlty you can spare her by damaging her enough that she runs away, but the only time I managed to do that was when she was coming through the corridor, I could hear her running a round so I look for her and she started the default conversation and then went to shoot Juan. Maybe if I had just rain out the door it would have worked? But I have a feeling the game would just consider Juan dead.

I think I'll kill her. If Paul values the life of this cyberslut over the life of his unarmed friend who she's trying to premeditatively murder in cold blood, then he's a colossal cuck who must have eaten the majority of the city's soy food which would explain it's scarcity.

>>16839699

Well, shit. That didn't occur to me. All of my information about this game is probably only relevant to the GOTY edition.

>>16839746

>Seems like I have to let him die to maintain a no kill run, which at this point seems pointless because the game already thinks I've killed people.

The it-he.org guy tried to get around that by taking lebedev's unconscious body with him. There's literally no point in doing so other than the personal satisfaction of showing up at UNATCO HQ with the sleeping terrorist you were supposed to assassinate, and leaving him on a bench or manderley's desk or whatever.

>I could hear her running a round so I look for her and she started the default conversation and then went to shoot Juan.

That's interesting. I remember piling crates in the corridor outside lebedev's room kept anna from getting in to shoot him, though that kind of approach probably prevented the mission from ending. Another fun trick: stack explosive barrels around lebedev. The AI won't shoot the barrels immediately, even though she really wants to. She'll tell you he'll get a "speedy trial" so that you go away, and then blow him and herself up as you leave. This might be better or worse than other options depending on your definition of "not killing people."

>>16840100

Well, Mission four is done

I got to the part where UNATCO shows up outside Paul's hotel room, at first I killed the men in black with rocket launchersand some soliders too and then tranquilzed the rest, but I went on line and found that you only have to run through the hotel door for paul to survive. So I reloaded and just did that.

Long story short I made it back to battery park, which was the only place I could go, and was met with gunther herman. I must have spent half an hour trying to escape but it was pointless because of invisible walls.

This has negated all enjoyment I have had with the game up until this point, and I have half a mind to stop playing.

Also, I installed the damage resistance augmentation. I didn't think the emp one would be that useful because I'd just avoid emps. It also looks like there are some augs I missed. Don't know if I can find them again, but I don't really care at this point

>>16840233

That's too bad. You're not enjoying the plot and sending terrorists back to the people IN A BODYBAG and whatnot?

Damage resistance can be useful, especially if you bind it to something you can hit easily during combat. A lot of the aug canisters have doubles later in the game. By this point you could have installed as many as three. Make sure you get the one at the end of the next mission, if you continue.

>>16839746

>At first I thought she was invincible but I've reloaded a few times and she can be killed with lams or rockets.

Max out on pistols and she'll go kaboom with just a few headshots.

>>16841290

>After being cheated out of escape because the developers were to lazy to add a story branch for that, JC was captured.

Yeah, you know how it is. They could have just had you skip mission five after escaping through the park, but then a lot of the Daedalus stuff would have to be rewritten, either ambiguated or duplicated since you might not have encountered him yet.

The developers originally wanted to include a branch where you don't even leave UNATCO, which would've been awesome. Waxing pinkos with my robot glownigger bros forever, every day an Anna Navarre Shooting Spree until Carter and Alex and Paul and maybe even Manderley are like

<Jesus Christ JC! These are human beings you're dealing with, you can't go in and just shoot white phosphorous everywhere!

>Guess again: those people were communists.

And instead of defecting, you get thrown out for being history's greatest monster and creating so many PR disasters and international incidents that the entire world revolts against the globalists.

>>16839709

>Knock up everyone

And take responsibility ? :^)

>>16841692

Developers want to earn money, like everyone in the business. Back in the day, a good way to earn a buck was to make a good game, so people playing the games will recommend it to one another and buy it. Now that the normies got roped in en masse and the industry got expanded and it's more profitable to outsource work to chinks or pajeets, and people with vision and passion get burned out working in soulless molochs like blizzard or rockstar. Being a visionary doesn't pay, unless you're a con man.

>Scam Citizen level crowd funding happens.

I don't believe in crowdfunding. The poster boy of kickstarter, pillars of eternity, had experienced developers, virtually unlimited money and time, and came out a boring, thoroughly underwhelming slog with pants-on-head retarded mechanics that required balancing for 3 years after release, and people bought it because of nostalgia marketing.

>>16841692

>modern devs are visionless cucks who want to make movies, and publishers allow way less creative freedom

That's it right there, anon. No one wants to take risks, no one has any vision, and those that do are either trampled by their low-energy peers or squashed by the project managers/corporate overlords because putting time and effort into making something interesting is verboten when you can pump out soulless garbage that looks half-decent but is indistinguishable from everything else released that year and quickly forgotten right after

>The only way a Deus Ex clone could possibly succeed is if Scam Citizen level crowd funding happens

i_want_to_believe.bmp

Seriously though, only a strong independent studio or semi-autonomous subsection of a big publisher that's given time and money to make something half-decent and actually has real project oversight and management can make it happen. Too many indies are too ambitious and can't focus and end up shitting out something like Underworld Ascendent, if they put out anything at all. At this point the best we could hope for is either a crowd-funder to end crowd-funders in terms of direction and quality and design, or a team like Arkane picking it up either directly as a sequel or more likely as a spiritual successor. which will never happen because SQENIX has the rights, don't they?

>>16841856

yeah just because you get the old team back together and have tons of money and time doesn't guarantee a good game by any means. It's just nice to believe, anon. Unfortunately I think the only viable route is a big publisher actually taking enough of a risk and letting a team work on it with proper management to ensure goals are met and that dangerhair soyboys aren't just fucking around the whole time because they don't give a shit.

>>16841992

>Too many indies are too ambitious and can't focus and end up shitting out something like Underworld Ascendent, if they put out anything at all

I don't know if you can chalk that one up to ambition. Is there anything in that game that is the obvious time sink? Every time I look at it the game just looks like a shallower version of Arx's world with extra mechanics brought in from Dark Messiah. There aren't any characters really from what I can tell just the narrator. If I had to guess I would just say the staff grossly overpaid themselves and completely blew through the budget they had.

>>16841977

>Also doesn't help that all the computers in here house are labelled 'majestic 12"

The maid kills you if she sees you try to use the computer and she follows you around as much as possible

>>16815922

>How did you play your Denton?

the only objectively right way: pacifist, stealthy, and AI god

>>16842006

You can lure her upstairs and KO with the baton.

>>16842001

probably! I think at the end of the day they forgot how much work it was to make a good game and their heart wasn't in it or they were incapable of doing it. The game is fucking terrible and so bad it makes you want to start doing interviews and getting depositions for the post-mortem.

>>16842027

this nigga gets it

>>16842006

>>16842043

never forget that Paul was banging Maggie

I never understood the part where she sends you to the cop shop to get evidence but the evidence just… points to her… unless I'm misremembering that section. Just felt like a half-baked quest in a game where most of them make way more sense

>>16842074

She intended to have Denton killed attacking the police station, or at least get him to be public enemy number one and have to hide rather than go after her. It also gives her time to get away before he returns. She had no way of knowing what they had on her anyways.

>>16842006

Good thing I knocked her out.

>>16842074

> she sends you to the cop shop to get evidence

I hope I didn't lose any skill point from not doing that

Can I ask what the low-tec skill actually does?

>>16842346

>Can I ask what the low-tec skill actually does?

Isn't that your melee combat skill? I think it also applies to pepper spray.

No matter how hard I try to go for another build each time I play it, I always end up playing maxed cyber legs sniper ninja Denton

>>16842463

That's because leg speed lets you evade hazards and go out of bounds, and the sniper rifle can blow up turrets and doors if you upgrade it enough.

I had the same problem, though, which is why I would set out to only use a particular weapon or pair of weapons.

I must admit, I am somewhat disappointed in UNATCO.

>>16816844

Desperate.

Does anyone have an issue with being unable to interact with things while loading a save? I'm playing GMDX v10 and sometimes items randomly can't be interacted with. It's really fucking me over right now because there are plot specific things I need to use that I can't. I can also walk through them.

>>16842696

>>16842346

if you boost your melee skills and have the aug that boosts your melee attacks you can start chopping down doors with your laser sword or other melee weapon, which is fuckin sweet. Unsure how much you need and if you even have to dump points into it because I usually have invested heavily into melee so I can use the riot stick to knock people out ASAP.

>>16842796

The secondary unit should be online soon.

>>16843614

never noticed this anon, sorry.

>>16848399

*Is great but can't match up to the original

>>16848399

Strange, the geometric armor and clothing patterns resemble low-poly models, its a strange look that's futuristic and nostalgic at the same time.

>>16816266

>Ouchi

Boy I'll say

>>16840100

>She'll tell you he'll get a "speedy trial" so that you go away, and then blow him and herself up as you leave

Goddamn it anon I might have to reinstall this and do some experiments, I remember fucking around subverting stuff in UNATCO HQ was great fun.

>>16848399

I haven't played Human:RE but I had the impression it would be bad, I hope I'm wrong.

>>16848774

Honestly I'd rather play Invisible War than either of the two newest ones. They are pretty shit imo. Don't @ me

>>16840233

>I must have spent half an hour trying to escape but it was pointless because of invisible walls.

>This has negated all enjoyment I have had with the game up until this point, and I have half a mind to stop playing.

I had an extremely similar experience, actually. The thing was that up until that exact point, the game made it seem like you had real agency; it didn't feel linear. Then the story says you get captured, so suddenly there's an invincible enemy and invisible walls. It's so disillusioning.

I honestly think it should've just been a cutscene; just make the surrender dialogue automatic and go directly to jail. That would've been bad, but nowhere near as bad as giving you a dialogue option that makes you think you can fight back and then pulling the rug out from under you.

>>16848778

>>16848399

Too bad that all these enemies are absolutely no different from each other. All of them can be KO'd with one button, including the heavies. They don't have different behaviors, they move with the same speed, have the same field of view.

>>16848399

Mankind divided is pretty decent for what it is, but the plot is indeed bad.

>>16848399

I hate everything about human revolution except the core gameplay.

>Still story is Decent

no its not, its shit. it shits all over the original deus ex. it gracelessly inserts an artificial divide that was never even hinted at in the original, and it never stops hammering the player over the head with its inane message. not a single ounce of subtly.

>"Social/Dialogue" Battle

SHIT

Dialogue shouldnt be a win/lose thing, it should be to build upon characters. Unfortunately, adam doesn't have any character whatsoever, and everyone else in the story is a shallow caricature. Sarif might be the only one that seems even mildly fleshed out.

Also: zombies. and wymyn computer. But at least the prequel managed to perfectly copy the completely unsatisfying endings, if even lazier than the original.

At least throwing vending machines at people is fun.

>>16850295

That guy actually survived and made a full recovery.

>>16850295

>>16850216

Yeah yeah, we all watched Ross Scott's video.

>>16856107

>but that they were pissed with how short and uninteresting MD was.

That's exactly why SE isn't making a new Deus Ex game: short, uninteresting, and riddled with microtransactions was their plan to make MD profitable, and when that didn't work they were out of options.

>>16856107

>Did MD flop so badly that they aren't any plans to touch the IP?

Yes, squeeninx wasn't happy with cybergay tranny niggers and the development so MD is one third of a shitty game that performed like trash and was canned.

I wish Squeenix actually killed and buried hitman too instead of giving IOI the license for free.

>>16856107

>Did MD flop so badly that they aren't any plans to touch the IP?

Yep. The canceled all further development of the game mid-DLC and everything. They just said "fuck it" and closed up shop with the game unfinished and people still working on it after launch.

Serves 'em right for sucking so bad. DE:HR wasn't terrible. As a soft reboot it could have launched into a new proper DE game. Instead, we got HR-but-with-less-gameplay-and-more-poz.

>>16856155

Presumably because they weren't directly controlling the subsidiary Eidos Montreal or whatever and instead gave them time limit, money "here make another one"

>>16856159

>Should have stopped when he started the video by admitting it took him multiple playthroughs to understand the story.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt on that. It was how he started the entire beginning of the video saying how the first mission doesn't make any sense because it's JC's first day. Despite the fact Gunther straight up says "Now I understand the retreat. They wanted to test out their new toy." Not to mention he played it multiple times so he even if he missed that dialogue he should know better.

>>16856677

>>16856159

He was talking about how the intro didn't make much sense at first because it references a bunch of events that the player doesn't know about yet.

And he's right, you wouldn't understand until maybe you finished the first mission at best.

>>16856683

Which is partially why I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now about what he said regarding the first mission….

>>16856155

>Unless they were both such a shitload of work and so risky

That's almost all AAA games nowadays.

Advertisement and dev costs inflated to barely sustainable levels over the last decade or so, so now a flop wipes out the profits of ten average releases put together and no company wants to risk it.

>>16856683

I always liked that they literally lay it all out for you in the first five minutes of the game. You may not know who they are (hi Maggie!) but you get exposition dumped in an organic conversation between the two main antagonists in their secret lair.

>>16862788

>Were there any conversations or text that stood out to you?

A lot of them I guess. The opening, Anything about globalism, the conversations with the AIs. The conversation with dowd about the illumanti's history, the endings.

>>16862328

>This game was fun, but I don't feel like it's the best game of all time, probably because I'm jaded.

I thought it was great but not the greatest at first. After giving it a few years to sink in and coming back to it I really started to appreciate the game more. Like I didn't really realize how good the music was until the 8/v/ SS13 server had the UNATCO theme on the jukebox.

>16863178

I don't really feel like any game is the best game nowadays. I think the last time I did was when I was 10 playing super Mario 63 or fancy pants adventures 2 on newgrounds

>>16862328

>I've finished the game. So how did I play my Denton?

>Snuck around and knocked people out with the baton

Max run speed legs aug for any build, pretty much. Hilariously, it speeds up crouched movement as well, thus completely negating run silent aug. And it lets you kill enemies by jumping on them.

>I spared everyone except for Navarre, whom I chased into a lam with pepper spray

She's the one person in the entire game that has to die at some point or another, but what's interesting is all the different possibilities of where or when she's killed, and how it affects the story.

>Which ending did I pick?

When I first played Deus Ex when it came out, as a wee lad of teenage years, I was convinced the only ending that made sense was illuminati. Later, much later, helios merge seemed like the best option. I'm sure personal politics have a lot to do with that. If/when they do a remake, I hope they at least bring back the choice of remaining loyal to UNATCO, as was supposed to be an option, allegedly.

>The boss fights in this game were all pretty easy.

They were perfect, they're just regular people like everyone else, not bullet sponges like in the prequel. And there's half a dozen ways at least to handle each, not least of which is just running past or avoiding them. Except for Anna, who must be dealt with if she's still alive during escape from UNATCO.

>This game was fun, but I don't feel like it's the best game of all time, probably because I'm jaded.

A single playthrough is never enough, I've played it so many times and I always manage to find something I've never seen before each playthrough.

>>16863355

>She's the one person in the entire game that has to die at some point or another

I can't resist ACKTUALLY-posting about this. You can get past her instead of killing her. It's extremely difficult and I've only done it myself once, but basically you refrain from killing her until the end of mission 5, which is where you're supposed to have no choice because Alex won't give you the key to leave UNATCO HQ as long as she's still alive.

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>>16863366

Okay. But just to be clear, it's not like it's some secret, intended trick. The game doesn't in any way acknowledge that she didn't get killed.