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eef9ba  No.16804500[Last 50 Posts]

Fanboys are the killing the gaming industry prove me fucking wrong

everytime a beloved company does a greedy business practice, get ready for their braindead shillboys defending them with dumbass arugments such as "Well they need the money for their next project" or "they need to put bread on their table" and the infamous "well you don't have to buy it doesn't affect you I'm anyway" as if anti-consumere practices won't end up affecting those who haven't paid for their garbage microtransfactions or DLC like EA, Ubisoft and Konami had done.

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000000  No.16804562

>>16804500

That is why convincing normalfags and disenfranchised (former) fanboys to stop giving any money at all to any of those companies is mandatory.

Truth kills hype. Information kills marketing.

Spread information containing the truth behind any product or service to all places, and the corporations can be taken down easily. It is already happening with many of them.

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ed2f5d  No.16804567

>>16804500

404, argument not found. I bought all those games, other than SWBF2, what's even supposed to be wrong with them?

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2359b3  No.16804579

Uhh it's called capitalism, if you don't like it don't buy it.

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9e8358  No.16804584

>>16804500

>Fanboys are killing the industry

Wrong. Fanboys facilitate competition. Either by being competitive with each other (See, Digimon vs Pokemon) or by being such insufferable fucking jackasses that people will seek out alternatives so that they can get the same flavor of game without dealing with dipshit fanboys.

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fa58f0  No.16804592

>>16804584

>people will seek out alternatives so that they can get the same flavor of game without dealing with dipshit fanboys.

I never really see that happen. Usually "spiritual successors" only come about because the original franchise suddenly died and other companies want to capitalize on that existing audience feeling abandoned – for better (like Bloodstained/Castlevania) or worse (Mighty No. 9/Megaman or Yooka Laylee/Banjo Kazooie)

>>16804562

Hey Luciano.

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20291d  No.16804601

>>16804500

>Fanboys are the killing the gaming industry prove me fucking wrong

No, corporate greed and then uninformed consumers, some of which are fanboys, plus graphics whores. Corporate greed expoits the uninformed purchasers, a lot of parents, hires shills, and markets to the informed like women and children and low IQ soft boys (see Nintendo). Graphic whores buy upon liking what they see, not the effort behind the making and will shell out 70 US dollars for a 8 hour campaign plus unlimited school yard tag (deathmatch). It is the way it has always been, compounded by success and time.

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eef9ba  No.16804616

>>16804567

Hello Reddit

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eef9ba  No.16804629

File: ece78752a3c0d7b⋯.png (1.4 MB, 680x499, 680:499, e45.png)

>>16804601

>Fanboys aren't killing the industry

>COD retards buying the same shit games over and over again and allowing Activision to put paywalls over progress

>Nintendo fags defending Nintendo removal of fangames and emulators

>Literally retards defending EA and their common scumbag practice of adding microtransfactions in their games

>Kikestar fanboys buying sharkcards and acting suprise that kikestar gives more shits about sharkcards than fixing the broken weapons and vehicles in multiplayer

Fanboys keep buying the same garbage games from companies who using the same anti consumer practices it's a common pattern over and over again that fanboys buying their shit is why they keep doing it because they're never punished for it. Look up Todd Howard's reason for why he keeps rereleasing Skyrim over and over again.

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eef9ba  No.16804645

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>>16804583

Corporations want to capitalize on selling aids and children on the market as a fetish. How far until you ancap niggers realize that corporations are just as evil as governments. Big government isn't the sole problem wrong with the world retard.

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565453  No.16804649

>>16804500

You're preaching to the choir, friend.

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518a40  No.16804680

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>>16804500

>everytime a beloved company does a greedy business practice, get ready for their braindead shillboys defending them with dumbass arugments such as "Well they need the money for their next project" or "they need to put bread on their table" and the infamous "well you don't have to buy it doesn't affect you I'm anyway" as if anti-consumere practices won't end up affecting those who haven't paid for their garbage

Anon, stop getting your opinions from Cuckchan, Leddit, and GameFaqs.

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518a40  No.16804683

>>16804500

>>16804680

Let me rephrase thhat:

STOP thinking that Cuckchan, Leddit, Resetera, and GameFaqs represent gamers.

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bff640  No.16804693

>>16804683

and Twitter

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d5c4df  No.16804698

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>>16804629

>Nintendo fags defending Nintendo removal of fangames and emulators

Just don't buy it :^)

He's not wrong though. Corporations go to both fanboys and the uniformed. They go to fanboys to rerelease same shit and the uniformed to dig up dead franchises they hope they can milk the shit out of.

>>16804660

Way to miss his point completely.

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41adb1  No.16804703

>>16804629

Well yeah, it's a product, they'll keep on making it if it sells, marketing is also a part of that product.

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eef9ba  No.16804715

>>16804683

But, These sites do represent most gamers most of the people who buy these shit games are also likely to come from those sites places like Jewtube and nigglet are where gaymers have the largest playerbase on the internet.

>>16804660

You can't be this much of a sperg, nigger read my previous comment and learn to not be a low iq cuckchan faggot.

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162e5b  No.16804725

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>>16804500

>P5R is on this list

>Not remembering P4 Golden

>Not remembering Persona 3 FES(which included The Answer and costumes)

>Not knowing about SMT Nocturne being a remake of the previous game but adding fiends and a few new areas.

>SMT Strange Journey Redux

>SMT FE Encore re-release

Anon either you are either trying to clickbait or you do not even know Atlus has done this shit since the very beginning. Even Kingdom Hearts Final Mix was essentially an additional thing thanks to feedback from Japan on what could be added to KH 2. We never had in the West that was exclusive for Japan(despite it being dubbed in English funny enough). As a consumer you can accept not buying or buying the product. Something tells me you care too much about what others are doing and complaining about it.

Also Everyone since the early 2010's complained that Casual shooters like COD and Halo were the causing of gaming's downfall due to simplified controls, campaigns that do not mean much, and just an excess focus on multiplayer. Funny enough nowadays its the same thing but minus the single player. That is the main problem with the gaming market today. No stories, no real gameplay.

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8df7e6  No.16804733

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>>16804537

Kinda agree with this. It is popular and used everywhere else but crowder is speaking the truth.

>>16804579

>>16804583

>>16804567

>>16804584

>>16804601

>>16804680

>pic related

You motherfuckers are the exact cancer OP is talking about. Fuck off.

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eef9ba  No.16804749

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>>16804703

>Dumb fuck consumers buy product depsite bad practices

>Product continues to make shit ton of money

>Corporative niggers continue to market their product the same way they had before

>Rise and repeat

>>16804725

>Implying I haven't realized that Atlis has been acting like kikes with their previous installments

I used P5R as the perfect example of recent games that are nothing but pure laziness of reselling and the further process of the nips becoming greedy especially after those expensive ass dlcs they sold for some bgms and outfits along with personas.

> Also Everyone since the early 2010's complained that Casual shooters like COD and Halo were the causing of gaming's downfall due to simplified controls, campaigns that do not mean much

No shit? And it's only gotten worse back then people were to a degree were somewhat pretty skeptical of games and now today many gaymers are basically ok with having to pay extra just to get a dumbass comestic or to progress further in the game instead of playing 50-100 of hours of getting gud and having fun with the progression system.

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127d40  No.16804753

They're getting exactly what they want. The shit you listed are garbage games to begin with. People with shit taste play shit games.

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41adb1  No.16804763

>>16804749

All the games you listed in the op are grinding treadmill skinnerboxes, the only way they can do is degenerate towards that mindset. Why else would demeaning pat-on-the-back-checkbox games like Borderlands, TES and Far Cry be popular? Because it's a cheap product they can market the hell out to appease stockholders.

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c09a6e  No.16804767

>"well you don't have to buy it doesn't affect you I'm anyway" as if anti-consumere practices won't end up affecting those who haven't paid for their garbage microtransfactions or DLC like EA, Ubisoft and Konami had done.

This is true though. "anti-consumer" microtransactions and such have been going on for at least a decade now and I barely even notice because I don't play shitty AAA garbage. The only reason why you would be worried about these practices is if your taste in games is absolutely fucking awful. let publishers milk the niggercattle for all they are worth, I couldn't give any less of a shit.

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162e5b  No.16804772

>>16804749

>I used P5R as the perfect example of recent games that are nothing but pure laziness of reselling and the further process of the nips becoming greedy especially after those expensive ass dlcs they sold for some bgms and outfits along with personas.

I find it funny you are mentioning the extras that are coming with the game when Western companies hardly give you anything for you to repurchase the games again in an ultimate pack that in fact are less and less content than usual other than mostly cosmetics. It usually has to do with execution and if the additions make the product worth it to buy the game with extras and if there is enough added content for it. You may not agree, but i think if i am getting something for it i will buy it especially if it adds more than cosmetics, like a new character, a new map, some remixed stages, bonus minigames etc. If it does not have that, i will not buy it. Thus ending the practice of allowing them to get away with something i do not like.

>No shit? And it's only gotten worse back then people were to a degree were somewhat pretty skeptical of games

Most hated DLC's and bland cosmetic items including the whole practice of buying a lot of money for a money store thing in games. I would say expansion packs are a better practice than having it be these thousands of items in a store.

>now today many gaymers are basically ok with having to pay extra just to get a dumbass comestic or to progress further in the game instead of playing 50-100 of hours of getting gud and having fun with the progression system.

I agree completely on this sentiment it does not help we have lootboxes and stupid crap like that. Especially seasonal DLC. I know to skip the game entirely.

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d17191  No.16804816

File: 8362fc3617a6693⋯.jpeg (120.37 KB, 767x730, 767:730, Screen_Shot_2019_11_06_at….jpeg)

Oh boy. Another X is ruining games thread. I can't wait to see the same argument circle the drain once more.

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41adb1  No.16804826

>>16804816

"muh grinding skinnerbox game is getting more grinding loot mechanics" is what it boils down to.

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9e8358  No.16804895

>>16804592

I'm not talking about spiritual successors. I'm talking about the popular thing being cancer to try and discuss driving people to look out other games that are similar. We can go back to Digimon vs Pokemon with this.

Game Freak fucks up, soy boys defend it and the people who are fed up go buy Cyber Sleuth and get to enjoy a different monster collecting RPG that they might not have otherwise.

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e07b09  No.16804910

File: 16558158d177141⋯.png (477.24 KB, 750x745, 150:149, 16558158d1771414e35f6248a6….png)

>>16804567

>404, argument not found.

reddit/soyboy of reddit,you must go back ya faggot

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ae9a9e  No.16804916

File: 4df2d70f088799d⋯.png (397.04 KB, 809x568, 809:568, ENOrTQcXkAELEh1.png)

>>16804567

>404, argument not found.

ebin

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bff640  No.16804927

>>16804567

>reddit speak

>Buying all those shitty games

>defending shitty games

Your next post will either be how you were just pretending or some cuckchan lingo like cope seethe stay mad

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5f73b8  No.16804928

>>16804567

>>16804579

>>16804583

All me

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bff640  No.16804944

>>>/v/16804928

we have IDs dummy :^)

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8df7e6  No.16804945

>>16804767

What games do you play? Name them. Prove to us how the games you play haven't been affected by current monetization and SJW trends.

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cbda18  No.16804952

>>16804500

I find it baffling that nu-Atlus is still continuing with the jewry by locking fights with P3 and P4 protags behind a paywall and this was suppose to be the definitive edition of P5.

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5f73b8  No.16805026

File: f51b2dae5113670⋯.gif (1.22 MB, 292x278, 146:139, 1576900693830.gif)

>>16804984

Oh look, the cuckchanner now spouts shit to try and fit in.

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952d3e  No.16805033

File: 99b6645957186b5⋯.jpg (61.05 KB, 500x500, 1:1, Lenny Henry.jpg)

>>16804984

>National Socialists were Socialist Lefties

>National Socialists killed folks who did not fit in with their fantasy of a perfect race

If you weren't a friend of my best friend's Dad i'd feed your brain to an open sewer grate, anon

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5f73b8  No.16805034

>>16805033

Hey Mark

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eef9ba  No.16805042

>>16805033

>National socalist were left wing

>National socalist killed all other races

Qnigger

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fcc7ca  No.16812700

before i get this persona 5 royal in spring

what is different compared to p5?

does my waifu get extra screen time?

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4c4e30  No.16818196

bumping for p5r info

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32fc5b  No.16818268

>>16805033

>national socialists privatized many things which were nationalized by the actually socialist Wiemar Republic

>national socialists weaken gun control laws (so long as you were not a Jew) compared to Wiemar Republic

>fought a massive bloody war against communists

<they are just the same!

<the pro multiculti libertarian scum screams at the top of xir lungs

Every time.

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eef9ba  No.16818531

>>16812700

There is nothing much different from the original game other than a new dungeon, more events where you hang out with your friends, new locations, and some new items and characters.

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f03ef8  No.16818535

>>16804500

The media and the corparations are to blame for facilitating fanboy mentality. You know damn well that kids aren't responsible for their emotions like adults are and the corparate push towards infantilization of adults through the push of "youth", ie the plastic surgery boom and the extreme push towards youth preservation products of the 70's through the mid 90's.

The fanboys are just ignorant. Blame who keeps them ignorant.

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f03ef8  No.16818568

File: 93e5bc47b202c74⋯.gif (462.18 KB, 400x287, 400:287, Gintama's drinking problem.gif)

>>16804629

>COD retards buying the same shit games over and over again and allowing Activision to put paywalls over progress

>"Allowing"

>"A L L O W I N G"

No one has any say in what the industry does, it is literally trying to get away with everything and people are fucking tired of lootbox shit. The only reason they were "allowed" was that they were TRIED. People didn't see this shit hit until triple AAA mass adopted it after EA "proved" that it "worked".

In actuality they're scamming kids and mentally ill whales, foreign moguls and gambling addicts. Most people have no SAY in allowing this. This isn't a vote, this is a reaction to an addicton problem

I don't know how YOU could be so dense.

You want to know the finance plan for how these games make money? You want to know why people still sell beer and cigarettes despite the known issues? Addicts. They make the money from ADDICTS, usually the rich. These aren't fanboys. Fanboys just buy the games, might spill 50 on microtransactions if they're dumb, but the whales keep it all going and justify the microtransactions for the next round through.

I don't think you understand that the corporations are fully at fault for exploiting this and they will cause their own crash when that runs out. This isn't something that is DECIDED, or is a result of what even 95% of people most people want. This is literally decided by 5% to 3% of society. By ADDICTS.

DO you get that? The corporations are at fault, the addicts literally cannot help themselves.

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38b4c4  No.16818674

>>16818568

Too bad terrible games can only kill their addicts financially and socially.

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3ae5bb  No.16818696

>>16804733

What the fuck are you doing here, secondary?

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4a2a00  No.16818703

>>16804500

And then it's double pumped by socjus retardies who defend shit because it lines up with their ideological viewpoint, because the only principle they know is the one they got fired for not being diverse enough.

Unironically the biggest problem with video games is that companies are locked into this mentality that they need the latest and greatest graphics to succeed at all, ignoring that the most successful game of the last decade looks worse than early 3d games and uses polished programmer art.

Rare used to have a bunch of converted barns staffed with 20 or so people that used to push out a full game in 2 years, programmed from scratch, art done on archaic as fuck 90s workstations, I find it hard to believe that with all the tools that cut down work times that they can't do that same shit again with graphics that manage to actually look nice.

>>16804629

Nintendo can't remove emulators, that shit should be protected legally, retards need to defend when companies pull shit like this. Fangames probably aren't legal, if people want to see things change they need to actually go to court, or talk about that shit anonymously.

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0c2679  No.16818746

>>16818703

Emulators in the US aren't illegal, the ROMs are if you don't legally own a copy of the game. If the emulator requires a bios, it's technically illegal to share the bios rather than dumping it from your own system.

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29d134  No.16819311

File: 922c1ef917c31d7⋯.jpg (106.93 KB, 679x1019, 679:1019, 86e8de58835e56c7c50c143acd….jpg)

>>16818531

does best girl get bonus content or will they just recycle all her lines and everything

I won't pay 70$ and play this game again for 100 hours just to see one secret sequence they added

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28aa67  No.16819589

Fanboys have always been around and always been autistic. There's nothing that can be done about them since they literally worship them. They're essentially the same as animals.

Its the larger audience that's fucked up. No standards at all. If they had exercised their consumer power, we wouldn't be in half the shit we're in now. These companies can't survive off fanboys alone.

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f03ef8  No.16819591

File: 4631bcf0aefee20⋯.png (128.17 KB, 395x488, 395:488, smugdio.png)

>>16819589

>It's not the fanboys that are the problem, it's the fanboys

It's literally the company's fault for making bad shit, what about this is so hard to understand?

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9a2886  No.16819605

>>16819591

Do you actually think that if no-one bought games with microtransactions they would still try to push them?

They're companies, they exist to make money and they make shit people buy, if people are willing to buy bad shit then bad shit is what they make.

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8df7e6  No.16819752

File: 0097f2fb47f8b17⋯.png (689.35 KB, 1200x650, 24:13, here.PNG)

>>16819605

>Do you actually think that if no-one bought games with microtransactions they would still try to push them?

Yes. They continually push the same shit with a different coat of paint. When e-readers didn't work, nintendo pushed amiibos. When on-live didn't work, google tried to push stadia. When paid mods on steam wasn't enough bethesda pushed their own paid mod store on consoles for fallout 76.

There is not a genuine bone in the major corporation's body and I will be glad to see them burn.

>They're companies, they exist to make money and they make shit people buy

I'm fucking sick of this corporate bootlicker phrase. Just because they're a business shouldn't mean they can be above moral and social standards and shouldn't receive repercussions. You wouldn't accept a friend or a family member pulling this kind of shit in front of your face so why should a company get away with it? Just because a person would buy it doesn't mean it is a good service, good thing that will maintain society, and prevent the destruction of it. "People will buy it" is another stupid phrase that shills will prattle out out of ignorance even though it doesn't show merit or practicality in any sense.

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b4e29e  No.16819980

>>16819752

Explaining how things work isn't the same as approving of it. People buy terrible shit all the time, which is part of why that terrible shit keeps getting made. These companies don't give a fuck about morals or standards, just what sells. I don't like that but that is the truth. I wish there was more consideration for quality and value but there are too many greedy cunts in charge of these companies that only want to see profits go up each quarter so they can present a pretty graph to the shareholders or people at the top. They have no genuine enthusiasm for the industry they work in, only greed. You'd need a movement on a mass scale, enough people that simply would not buy into any of the modern trends, to make a big change in the industry since the money speaks the loudest. If absolutely nothing but fun, highly polished, bug free, complete on day one, huge value for money games with zero microtransactions or dlc sold then we'd be seeing a lot more of those. The companies for sure have some fault here for making this garbage at all, but the consumers who support it are also a big part of the problem. There is also a big diffusion of responsibility when dealing with big companies. If a friend jews you over it's very personal and you know exactly who is at fault, if a company with hundreds or thousands of employees jews you over then it gets harder to pin the blame, and the employees don't have to feel so bad since most of them aren't making the decisions and can justify their work easier. It's all just one big bowl of shit, really.

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1b0493  No.16819984

>>16804500

>Fanboys are the killing the gaming industry prove me fucking wrong

burden of proof, faggot

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a8e4b1  No.16820004

>>16819311

Pretty much all of the confidants are recycled you have a couple of places you can take them to get some extra dialogue but that's pretty much it.

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a8e4b1  No.16820007

>>16819984

Kill yourself you dumb nigger

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de8c77  No.16820574

Franchises should have a shelf-life. Forces vidya companies not to rely on IP

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b32a6c  No.16820595

>>16820574

After X sequels or years it goes public

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0ecd50  No.16821389

>>16820004

then I guess I will just stick to my PS3 version …

why is it that those jappie RPG devs cannot get a refined product ready at launch

they seem to have to release a beta version and then refine it into the final product after reviews tell them what was shit

>pokemon black/white

>persona 3

>persona 4

>persona 5

>pokemon sun/moon

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dde1f7  No.16821399

>>16819984

Pokemon dlc. Checkmate faggot.

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a8c16c  No.16821425

File: 89dc1c2bc818a19⋯.png (397.68 KB, 1090x791, 1090:791, smugsy.png)

>>16804500

>killing the gaming industry

You can't kill what's already dead.

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eef9ba  No.16821432

>>16821425

The gaming industry is only dead in terms of quality, corps like Ubisoft and EA are still making bank so it's not dead only infamous at the moment.

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ba8d67  No.16835731

The new game bonus for p5r is weird and bad. It's not a good bonus.

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e87946  No.16835786

don't forget stuff like the xbone's drm policies, which normalfags have readily accepted because it comes with all their shit games now, or how readily people are accepting shit like xcloud and geforce because they didnt oppose stadia for being a streaming service, but because google is incompetent

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c366e9  No.16835797

>>16821399

>Pokemon dlc. Checkmate faggot.

Counterpoint: No "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon" or "Pokemon Emerald" revisions sold as a separate game.

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e28664  No.16835799

File: cfaa3503d6126ca⋯.jpg (21.82 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 80b61a416af5d4f3dc1dd6fcff….jpg)

>>16835786

Nigger, normalfags fell for the (((hd tax))) when the 360 was released. Jewtendo went for maximum shekles until soyny normalized the price of games then once microshit got big enough they pushed the price of games to 60 shekels. Remember your history, normalfags and to a smaller extent G4 turned games into the cancerous mass we see today. Fuck quality control, you don't want to be seen as uncool or problematic.

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b00452  No.16835802

>>16804500

Nobody cares about your rant, nyan.

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e28664  No.16835806

>>16835797

>get rewarded for waiting for the complete version

Versus

>buy the game and then buy a digital voucher to gain access to the rest of the game and pray nothing goes wrong and you have to buy it again

Fuck off cuckchan, go defend digital purchases somewhere else. Just remember, YOU OWN NOTHING, GOYIM.

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1e58ca  No.16835810

>>16835806

Except in terms of actual content base versions tended to have exclusive content anyway. Pokemon were still exclusive to a few versions, and stuff like SM even had whole gameplay sections missing in USUM.

Most games had more content yes, but they were still split. They were not "complete" versions, merely better versions.

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50a461  No.16835885

>>16804500

>company does a greedy business practice

Really, the root of the problem lies here. Companies are looking for ever more ways to squeeze as much money as possible out of a project to the point where the end product stops being a fluid, fun game. Instead of making a lot of money making a ton of great games, people want to bank on Schlomobucks for their one, interesting project that gets milked to oblivion and back and then retire after that. It's as much on the fanboys as it is on the lazy ass developers that are too greedy and narcissistic.

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0ba171  No.16835898

File: 8240432b22704b2⋯.jpg (80.73 KB, 598x673, 598:673, 1561311781104.jpg)

>>16804645

At least corporations actually hold the risk of failing and collapsing if they disservice people, unlike states.

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31a38a  No.16836018

>>16804500

>Fanboys are the killing the gaming industry prove me fucking wrong

Not even close. The industry is no where near death, sadly. What everyone is observing is a severe lack of quality titles and shorter duration games. The factors leading to this state is, in order of blame, multi-player, dlc greed, self-censorship, free to play model, and unaware consumers. Most of the increase of video games popularity is due to multiplayer and instant gratification games like TF2, which attract the most needy gamers with low self esteem to get some quick kills off of some 12 year old who is new. The industry has evolved around multiplayer and adapted and failed accordingly. The balance between tech and artistry is a bit off right now as well as 50GB games require a lot of talent and corporations that care about profit margins over merit. There are no regular all time classic games being released, maybe one per decade. It is what it is because unaware new customers do not know any different. The industry is centered around the temporary gamer and not the long term hobbyist.

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5625cf  No.16836254

>>16835799

nice digits

by the hd tax im guessing you mean the jump in price of games from 40-50 to 60 USD? yeah that was part of why I kept my ps2 as my main home console until the wii price cut in like 09

people just ate it and accepted it, watch as next generation goes to 70 or something

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000000  No.16836319

>>16836018

>The industry is no where near death

It is. Just look at any news from last year to now. Small, medium and large studios and companies are losing money each month, while more studios and companies that weren't affected before have started their decline in profits and started losing money recently. They won't ever recover since they pushed hobbyists, (the only driving force in any market) out.

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000000  No.16836320

>>16835810

>comparing pokemon to battle tower like content

You disingenuous faggot.

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60bff1  No.16836324

Don't like it, don't buy.

>inb4 communist yid doesn't understand how economics works

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f81775  No.16836429

>Don't buy early access, its shit and maybe a scam

>Bannerlord is early access

>Everyone here creaming themselves

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638021  No.16836439

>>16804500

COPE sneed

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000000  No.16836448

Most corporate shills are paid. They're paid to post things on forums that defend the corporation, just like """"reviewers"""" and """journalists""" are paid to give positive reviews to unfinished, overmonetized games. These people do share some of the blame for sure but the real culprits are people who pay for microtransactions. They are the only source for the destruction of this industry for whom there is direct observable evidence.

Big spenders on microtransactions (or "whales") represent 1-2% of any given game's playerbase, yet they account for 50% of a game's long term revenue. Publishers see this, so they make sure to make that 1-2% of players happy at the expense of people who want to pay for a game once and enjoy all of it with no further paywalls.

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87975c  No.16837626

>>16836448

>Most corporate shills are paid. They're paid to post things on forums that defend the corporation

This. Even on /v/, most people seem to have no idea of the extent how prevalent paid shilling and astroturfing are in all online communities. Almost every company is doing it, even small indie studios, and all of those dime-a-dozen "social media branding" companies are just codewords for this activity.

It's gotten so bad that some communities have more of them than real users and have literally become a circlejerk of paid shills shilling to other paid shills. Even here, there are lots of these subhuman scum.

I believe astroturfing and paid shilling without full disclosure should be made felonies at the federal level. Even if catching individuals would be difficult, at least it would make companies reluctant to engage in it.

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f03ef8  No.16837639

>>16819980

Except you're giving them free reign by saying "That's how it is and it will never change". You can't say that because it's approval of their actions by inaction.

Hate them for what they are. Don't even be passive with them. Call out every sin they make, they won't learn otherwise and they won't BURN otherwise.

Don't make fucking excuses you stupid shithead. Don't give them ammo to continue because "it's the way it is and you can't change it."

Because you're fucking wrong.

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