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3d937d No.16801522[Last 50 Posts]
>First Homefront and call of duty ghosts often get made fun for having stupid plot involves North Korea or Venezuela invading America and conquering multiple nations
>Homefront gets rebooted with a plot dumber than Homefront 1 and ghosts with North Korea becoming Apple
>Revolution a game with North Korean villains that still has anti-capitalism themes and most main villains were white men
Who the fuck ask for a Homefront reboot! Not even Homefront fans liked revolution. It blows my mind Homefront the Revolution happen at all.
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26d724 No.16801533
This piece crap in a nutshell it's basically just "muh shitty adults, a bunch of teenagers will solve everything wrong with society".
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39dc54 No.16801537
>>16801533
Do japs ever have adult protags these days?
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1c0acd No.16801540
>>16801533
>Do japs ever have adult protags these days?
>>16801537
As much shit I will get for suggesting this. Aggretsuko. All the romance and workplace
Drama aside. It’s about becoming an adult and putting away childish things.
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26d724 No.16801541
>>16801537
Some games do, but Japan is very center on making high schools games because it easier to market to a younger audience and I think it also has to do with Japanese adults wishing to be teenagers again.
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3095c3 No.16801548
>>16801541
Once a Japanese person enters the workforce, their soul gets eaten (black companys, karoshi, ect.)
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ddaa44 No.16801551
>>16801537
the Yakuza franchise
Catherine
Soul Hackers
Ai somnium
Zero Escape 999 just to name a few off the top of my head
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164a20 No.16801558
>>16801551
>Soul Hackers
>these days
Soul Hackers was a Playstation 1 game, anon.
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ddaa44 No.16801563
>>16801558
i know but it got a rerelease around 7 or so years ago.
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c3375a No.16801577
>>16801574
A kike also wrote their constitution for human rights as well, Japan is a cultural satellite for America. Anyone who thinks "Japan is based and redpilled" probably only seen the ultra nationalistic side of Japan which is somewhat rare. Japanese nationalism is pretty backwards.
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12486b No.16801581
>>16801563
That doesn't make a 20 year old game new retatd
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ddaa44 No.16801584
>>16801581
he wanted Japanese games with adult protagonists, so i gave him a few Japanese games with adult protags
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12486b No.16801586
>>16801584
And you clearly can't read since anon specified
>these days
Not 3 console generations ago. Quit being retarded.
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0bd8b4 No.16801595
>>16801548
How is the cost of life in a japanese rural town buying a haunted house?
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95e5b5 No.16801606
>>16801522
I still remember when the original was first being made along with the remake of Red Dawn was the first example I saw of china flexing it's influence in western media.
Can't have China be the antagonist we can't sell in China then better make the bad guy someone else.
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4654f3 No.16801611
>>16801574
>but at least we don't work 16 hours in an office every day only to get paid $800, blow half of it on rent and the rest on eating frozen pizzas and noodles.
Good joke. Then look how it is in Germany.
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0bd8b4 No.16801614
>>16801611
At least in spain you only work for 12 hours. Only 8 or less count on your salary.
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248dd4 No.16801616
>>16801522
>why is North Korea the villain
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0bd8b4 No.16801617
>>16801606
Does China even sale games? with all the shitty social credit stuff that controls you when you can and when you can't play.
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4654f3 No.16801625
>>16801611
>>16801614
I didn't mean exactly like it but we do have an official housing crisis and people here eat shit too.
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95e5b5 No.16801642
>>16801617
Fuck if I know just that the two examples I said were pre-social credit system though.
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4ec80b No.16801656
>>16801606
Red dawn had a remake?
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95e5b5 No.16801666
>>16801656
Unfortunately yes made in 2012 with Norks because China got mad when they found out they were the bad guys so the studio reedited the whole movie.
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4654f3 No.16801685
>>16801642
>>16801617
I have seen barely anything on its actual implementation.
Western media are making fucking documentaries about it not showing anything in action
and being like "good that we have democracy!" and "it's not that bad here, see".
It's probably only done in a few selected cities.
And China is huge. Those country bumpkins in some rural village aren't as effected as the rest anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_society_in_China
>Rural society in the People's Republic of China comprises less than a half of China's population (roughly 45%)
Now look at how crowded Europe is and how much we have to live by the rules of the government. We can't just build a house somewhere
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4654f3 No.16801688
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0bd8b4 No.16801689
>>16801685
So can you be a NEET farmer in China?
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4654f3 No.16801693
Watching this makes me want to be a country bumpkin too.
>>16801689
They probably don't have the cash to buy a computer since the chinese are the ones being exploited by the industry and their currency being held low artificially by the chink gov.
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4654f3 No.16801696
>>16801689
But they got wives to fuck and are self sufficient. Better than most of us slaves.
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0bd8b4 No.16801697
>>16801693
I was going to ask why, but I guess it is about control or some shit like that.
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4654f3 No.16801704
Being a neet is generally a cityfag thing.
I'd probably leave the house more often too if anything more than Bolshevik beton blocks awaited me.
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40f53f No.16801706
>>16801551
>Soul Hackers
>Adult protags
You need to play the game again, anon. You'll thank me later
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dc74e8 No.16801726
>>16801537
Reminder that Final Fantasy XII had a change of protagonist from a cool adult man to a faggy twink because they needed to appeal to the lesbians and fujoshits.
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682ea6 No.16801733
>>16801522
The villain being a traitor who collaborates with enemy forces makes perfect sense you retard
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40f53f No.16801766
>>16801733
OP is obviously sarcastically trying to make a point. The plot to Revolution is quite honestly a 1:1 of what China is doing today.
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4654f3 No.16801786
>>16801704
>beton
meant concrete
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465833 No.16801811
>>16801611
Anon, Arabs don't work at all.
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4ec80b No.16801813
>>16801733
>The villain being a traitor who collaborates with enemy forces makes perfect sense you retard
>Homefront the revolution shows the KPA has more white commanders and generals than Asians
Whatever you say.
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4654f3 No.16801814
>>16801811
They also make use of the social system unlike most germans.
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465833 No.16801818
>>16801814
You're right. I guess snowniggers can't compete against Chad Arabs.
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682ea6 No.16801824
>>16801813
>a occupying country making heavy use of traitors, collaborators and sell outs
Yeah, that never happens.
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174f81 No.16801828
>>16801522
I never understood why Ghosts gets so much flak, if it changed a few things it would've been better. Make the enemies into a South American pact instead of Venezuela and drop COD from the name and it would've been an amazing original title.
Homefront's villains were supposed to be China originally but they changed to NK because they were too chicken and wanted to sell there as well. Retarded move but nothing could save that trash either way.
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ddaa44 No.16801869
>>16801706
so the game has the same old teen protags then i guess. then again last i played that game was months ago
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d24e97 No.16801900
>>16801522
I thought revolution was good in spite of the "antifa simulator" elements. The core gameplay loop was better implemented than the recent Far Cry games. It's VERY obvious that the enemy is supposed to be China, and once you catch onto that, the story premise makes sense. And don't pretend China wouldn't use sellout executives to influence America, when they already do that IRL.
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85f3fd No.16801906
>>16801900
Idiotic leftists LARP about being pro-human rights until they want money from a place like China.
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4ec80b No.16801954
>>16801824
You don’t understand. North Korea allow whites to enlists in the KPA in revolution.( Mostly from Australia and the American south ) They were not traitors. They were white North Korean citizens.
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e424e7 No.16801958
>>16801828
I couldn't even imagine a united South America getting tungsten rods into orbit. The funny thing is it was originally a US design to retrofit tridents.
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682ea6 No.16802069
>>16801954
Occupying governments never use people from the country they occupy to enforce their rule, you got me again anon.
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40f53f No.16802110
>>16801954
Have I got a story for you, Anon…
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174f81 No.16803129
>>16801958
They hijacked the guns from the Americans, they didn't make them.
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c496f5 No.16803156
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40f53f No.16803172
>>16803129
I think the guy you're responding to is talking about CoD Ghosts, I only played the first few levels and didn't look that much into the lore. Did they do the same thing they did in Ghosts that they did in Revolution?
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174f81 No.16803409
>>16803172
Yeah, I am talking about Ghosts as well. The game starts with the South Americans boarding and capturing the US's orbital guns. On Homefront Revolution though, North Korea becomes Silicon Valley 2.0, sells the US their tech products then turns it against them to invade and take over.
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447fbb No.16803666
>>16801533
>That one time Joker abandoned Ryuji and left him alone with two gay men that wanted to rape him
>That one scene where everyone beats Ryuji unconscious and leaves him knocked out and alone in an abandoned street in the middle of December
>Makoto flips between being an emotionless robot roleplaying as a teenager and a Mary Sue that can do no wrong that almost ends up getting herself raped and drugged because she's a retard that can't think her actions through only to have the game spend three hours jerking her off and going on about how tough and smart and cool she is and how her nickname should be Queen because she's a fucking goddess compared to those pathetic worms
>All those times Morgana acted like a worthless piece of shit without ever truly being called out on it
>The big plot twist in the game is everyone knew how blatantly evil Akechi was, but that Joker just conveniently forgot every single time they ever brought it up
P5's story is nothing but a bunch of scummy assholes beating up even scummier assholes while pretending they aren't all pieces of shit.
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40f53f No.16803860
>>16803666
Stop being mean to my waifu, satan. She's autistic can't you see, she has the book smarts not the street smarts.
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d308c3 No.16814084
>>16801617
They do but they have really weird laws and regulations, all games must be examined by a board of culture of sorts last time I checked and if they find whatever the commie party has decided that week that is haram for the average chinaman, well, tough luck buddy. I think they had some sort of problem like that with Total War Three Kingdoms but don't quote me on that.
Also the average chinaman scams the chink govt more than poz'd western media would want you to think, Diablo couldn't be sold on their stores because it had demonic symbolism but the people in charge of actually selling shit just rename the game to sound the same as the western counterpart and dodge completely the censors. In the case of Diablo, they called it Big Pineapple.
https://archive.is/daYOf
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0649ac No.16815050
>>16814084
Imagine if the US had weird restrictions like that, sites would be selling Underwater Ray Romano.
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97f979 No.16815102
>HURR DURR AMERICA VS RUSSIA AGAIN
>HURR DURR WE'RE TOTALLY NOT RIPPING OFF MODERN WARFARE
This shit was like reboot Devil May Cry of Ace Combat vidya
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e2704c No.16815107
Borderlands 3 has the worst story ever to grace a video game. I dare you faggots to find something worse.
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99ce4b No.16815513
>>16815107
B2 was already horrible, but I'd be genuinely ashamed if B3 managed to be worse.
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7b9ec5 No.16815520
>>16815513
It's basically Gearbox's cringe compilation.
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1b1770 No.16815561
This is the worst game I've ever played, and its plot was the worst part of all. I am well aware it was an "excuse plot", but most excuse plots aren't stuffed with godawful references and a complete lack of any kind of logic or reason.
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5ffc7d No.16815565
I regret not skipping the cutscenes.
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7e4bac No.16815650
>Dude let's make a sequel that's set in April 2016 before Drumpf gets elected and racial tensions are at their highest because fuck Drumpf
>And it can be about two oppressed Mexican kids and one of them has powers
>But one of them accidentally kills another kid in front of a cop
>Then their dad doesn't follow the cop's orders and gets shot
>So the other kid "accidentally" kills the cop and now they flee to Mexico
>Seriously though fuck cops
>Also fuck Drumpf
I shit you not this literally happens within the first 30 minutes.
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2bee40 No.16815664
>ooooh the cult's doing spooky shit
>talk to them and they're chill
>execpt no one of them attacks you at the end
>dad cave collapses
>have a hallucination where you just scream at nothing for a solid 5 minutes
>"huh that was weird"
>credits
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cdc92c No.16815684
>>16815664
>Kike in the hood
I remember I was looking for cosmic horror themed games and I found out this game was about cosmic horrors. I did hear of it from /v/, but mostly that it was tumblr shit so I couldn't understand how that shit was about cosmic horrors so I pirated it.
The game is slow as shit, all characters are unlikable as fuck, but I have to admit, the cosmic horror aspect was handled relatively well, I mean, it was not another "Tentacle monster is killing everyone", it was actual about cults and impending dooms and dealing with shit you don't understand. I still don't believe is a good game, or that it has a good plot, but that specific part was better than other games that try to do the same, and that's surprising coming from the kind of people that do pic related.
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2bee40 No.16815695
>>16815684
I give the game credit for building up the horror well enough that you don't really care that the plot is terrible until the illusion is shattered at the end. It gets you in the mood for an intrigue that it doesn't deliver upon because it thinks it's a character based drama.
I'm fucking ashamed to admit that I honestly was liking the game at the start because I thought this was just preamble and rising action and not "I'm like a cutscene away from the end." I thought the point of building all the characters and junk was a black spot and it was preparing these characters for something fucked up to happen, cause it really feels like that going in blind
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1e6e76 No.16815735
>"hey man let's play as someone other than the protagonist 85% of the game"
>Build a plot using expanded media/lore as a massive crutch rather than commit to what they wanted from the previous game (which also was weakened by using expanded media that not everyone was aware of). Can't understand any of this shit? Fuck you buy our merch!
>Cortana is back but IS LE EBIL WHOA 2ORIGINEL!!!!
>No interesting motivations or even an explanation, she might as well have said "I was in the forerunner recycling bin but they right-clicked to restore me xDD"
>Cortana proceeds to become a 4channel /b/ user by EPICLY PWNIN!!! osiris team with her supreme shitposting skills in some of the most retarded and cringe-inducing dialogue I've ever witnessed
>In the meantime, john has been reduced to a fucking autistic virgin who's obsession with a fucking AI hologram makes it seem like he's suffering from severe withdrawal from a massive fapping addiction, completely forgetting about the "awakened humanity" they teased during halo 4
>Arby's there, thanks to a ridiculous contrivance over a civil war that's still going on despite the fact that the covenant has no fucking leaders whatsoever, with the last one getting murdered like a retard on the first goddamn mission of the game.
>No real main conflict, it instead is an amalgamation of unexplained forerunner bullshit, Cortana wanting to "ascend humanity" without going into motivations, and AI LIVES MATTER!!! because fallible, mortal humans with bodies that die off are apparently at fault for not knowing the secrets of immortality to make an AI immune to rampancy (which is already sort of stupid, how the fuck are AI suddenly suffering from electronic cancer? and why the hell are humans putting them in charge of important infrastructure despite knowing this?)
Halo 4 also had moronic characters and retarded moments but at least its central conflict attempted to build something up, good thing I didn't buy this one because I'd be really fucking pissed.
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b57f71 No.16815754
>Xcom 2
>The first game was a fever dream you had while your mega brain was being used to conquer Earth
>Technology is shaky-as-fuck
>Teams capable of reverse engineering and replicating DNA-locked plasma weapons
>Expanded magazines for an assault rifle is fucking arcane science
>No nation or alien force retains basic interception capabilities
>Nor radar
>Aliens create and implement planet-wide task forces and checkpoints that examine peoples DNAs and build citizen databases to weed out resistance
>But nobody can build a single fucking missile to shoot down the extremely vulnerable subsonic troop deployment craft
>Setting is so poorly designed that it's basically a Firaxis-created variant of that shitty XPiratez mod
There is more, but I've already put more effort into this post than they did writing the game.
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45d2b0 No.16815763
>>16815754
Its not that the first game was a dream, its that x-com 2 is what happens if you lose the first game early on.
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e6e00b No.16815788
>>16815763
Well its explicitely stated in the beginning of 2 that during the base defense mission you got abducted and put into a simulator to power their strategic computer, and basically everything after the base defense was all just a dream. Thats a pretty central plot point in 2 since the ayys really want your galaxy brain back alive and in the machine.
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6ff064 No.16815916
>>16815754
>XCOM is supposed to be a guerilla hit and run organization
>Because Firaxis pretty much copy-pasted EU mechanics you outgun, outnumber and overpower Advent in a shitton of situations.
>The only mod that addresses this is Long War 2
>Which has the same issue as LW1 where pods are so unbelivably close to each other any large movements you make will most likely result in a new pod getting activated, also most likely to flank whomever you moved forward usually in an attempt to flank the original pod.
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07409b No.16815938
>>16815650
You forgot the convenience store bit. I wish I'd saved the webm, it was like a soyboy wet dream
>two spics are on the run from the cops
>they go to a gas station
>decide to steal supplies
>get caught by owner who's an old white dude
>forcibly held there while he calls the cops
>fuck whitey I dindu nuffin
>old white dude tells them "we should get rid of all you guys", typical hollywood racist rant shit
>don't remember how but the kids incapacitate him then run out of the store
>the most San Fran looking motherfucker just so happens to drive up to the gas station
>he looks like pic related without the hat
>kids tell them they dindu nuffin and mean whitey owner tried to get the cops on them
>he fucking believes them immediately
>drives them away from the gas station
>all of this while the kids are wanted for attempted murder
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6369ae No.16815972
>>16815513
Maya gets killed by Twitch streamers because her adopted daughter is fucking autistic.
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1331f7 No.16816055
>>16801548
and people wonder why they don't have kids, they've been turned into machines
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4c2876 No.16816072
I'd sooner try and shotgun off the few games with decent plots.
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b041dc No.16816091
>>16815102
fuck this game so much. with a few small tweaks it could easily be framed as satire, but it plays all the "modern warfare" tropes straight and basically turned into CoD except with planes.
>>16815754
LW just crowbars in a shitload of autistic micromanagement as well as some truly awful mechanics (such as the spacing of pods).I think if Gollop were allowed full creative control, it would've been leagues better
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d308c3 No.16816141
>>16815565
If you ignore the baste negro gun's seller and accept that Snake suicided instead of being rescued by BB at the end of the game it's pretty tolerable. I don't think the titty monsters needed a copy and paste IN DA BILLAGEH story, and having Ocelot basically unconfirmed on whether he was Liquid possessing his brain with nanomsheens, The Sorrow's genes giving him latent ghost powers or just him merely pretending to be retarded would have made it all more poignant that all Snake did was pretty much pointless and the real villain was well intentioned but couldn't control his own creation.
This game though, this has got to have the worst plot in gaming, beaten only by Jankcore slav shooters with bad translation patches. A game about parallel universes by a person who doesn't know how parallel universes work in either science or fiction. The re-arrangements of popular music and the artworks are literally the only saving grace. Think of all the cool shit you could have done with a bunch of Flying Racists and their Joseph Smith 2 Electric Boogaloo papa. Instead no, you were the real monster all along and fuck you.
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593243 No.16816243
>>16816055
>and people wonder why they don't have kids, they've been turned into machines
It's ok. They're going to get a fresh supply of immigrants to take care of all the retiring gen-x'ers and boomers. It's going to be like the migrant crisis in Europe but on steroids.
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9b1ee3 No.16816256
>>16801540
>Aggretsuko
>anime, not a game
>implying most people here even know about it
>implying it is not just about female wish fulfillment
Get uncucked.
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4c2876 No.16816334
Something bad is coming, it's been a slow news week.
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7734d4 No.16817171
>>16801533
The entire franchise is designed to appeal to teenagers, what did you expect?
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2c8234 No.16817172
>>16815938
>last episode literally has you tear down the border wall
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9ce553 No.16817176
>>16801522
>astral chain
game spends too much time talking about your dad being dead and how other characters briefly reflect on it, the secret leaders that yoseph talks to is never mentioned, your choice at the end of the game doesn't matter and your sibling just gets survives anyways, the entire discussion about legions and creating clones is never touched on.
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e6e00b No.16817186
>>16801548
Japan has an autistic culture of excellence and the average and mediocre are shit out of luck. Thats basically most of the people.
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8614b8 No.16818506
>>16801522
It's because they couldn't designate the Chinese as the primary antagonist of the video game.
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849214 No.16820578
Any fighting game eg. SFV, Tekken, Samurai Showdown, MK11…. what plot?
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3f9720 No.16820807
>>16801537
The quintessential westaboo ones:Resident evil, Silent hill, from soft and kojima.
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3f9720 No.16820820
>>16816141
The plot of bioshock 1 is incredibly convoluted if you look at it from anybodies POV but the player.
>Billionaire builds secret city underwater with with none of the world powers figuring it out
>Couldn't just build it in a dome in the desert or something
>or an oil rig in international waters
Frank fontains plan
>Steal ryans baby
>Rapidly age him
>erase all memory he has of rapture
>send it to the surface
>have him go on a plane,hijack it at the perfect moment,crash it close enough to a lighthouse in the middle of the ocean to swim to
>hopes he's able to fight through thousands of splicers, big daddies and killer robots in order to kill ryan
>once he does that send some robots that he's killed hundreds of that he can hack and control to kill him
>even though he respawns at checkpoints in universe
>also larp as an Irish man and operate out of a shelter build by your secret identity
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a93933 No.16820830
>>16820820
>Couldn't just build it in a dome in the desert or something
>or an oil rig in international waters
brainlet tier criticisms.
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2ff75a No.16820872
>>16815565
JACK, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT DAY IT IS TOMORROW?
>>16816334
I'm sure it's nothing
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8c5011 No.16820896
>>16801537
>Devil May Cry
>Nioh
>Yakuza
>The Evil Within
>Resident Evil
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7f5ead No.16820902
The Evil Within 1 because it's overcomplicated.
>guy named Ruben has his family killed by an angry mob.
>to cope, he creates a machine where people can log their minds into, to end up in some kind of Matrix.
>Ruben gets an assistant, but assistant works for an evil cooperation led by a guy only named The Man.
>The Man orders assistant to steal Ruben's work, so he does, so The Man starts to work on a seperate project with the same invention.
>Ruben is killed, cut into pieces, his brain removed and used as a source to create that Matrix-world.
>Ruben (well, his brain) creates an image of himself in the Matrix named Ruvik, which is the villain.
>while the assistant works on his own on the project and is a seperate villain.
>while The Man ALSO works on his own project and is a seperate villain in the DLC.
>three main characters enter the Matrix and try to stop Ruvik from escaping back into reality, but the female character works for The Man all along. The events of her story happen whenever she's absent in the main story.
Combine that with an attempt to be like Silent Hill:
>Rubens sister appears as a monster, the original intent was to reunite with her. He might be in love with her, at least its implied.
>The Box-Head monster is the representation of a hidden, locked away key Ruben had to protect his inventions.
>Several stages appear which were created by the main character's subcontious, not Ruben's. Etc.
I still like it. I appreciate the attempt.
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c799eb No.16820903
>>16820807
Silent Hill 2 has a fine story though. Because it's the only independent one from the overcomplicated cultist garbage.
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5569d1 No.16820910
>>16815664
Besides the style, I hate this game. It's like Undertale was the Cal-Arts for indie games.
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49b9fa No.16820926
>>16820902
TEW is one of those games I enjoyed, but really wish was better. A lot of the horror and design is well done, but the shit story and bad action-heavy sequences do a lot to ruin it. The DLC is nice because it's pure horror/stealth with less of the bullshit. I never touched 2. Should I even bother?
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6fe11a No.16820950
>>16820926
I bought this game because Mikami made it, and it feels like he wanted to throw everything at once into this game, so it became a mess. And some setpieces are unfairly designed.
The DLC was much better, and had way better stealth feedback. Also, I'm mostly a fan of the Resident Evil series for the monsters, less for how good the games are (so I can even appreciate RE6). And Evil Within has some monsters which could potentially have been "iconic", if the game got more praise.
>I never touched 2, should I even bother.
It's waaaaaaay better than TEW1. The story is more simple and has some emotional weight. The monsters and villains are cool. There are some callbacks for fans of the old game. What happens to STEM is a logical progression of the first game. The game has a nice structure and pace, with many of the places to explore being optional. It somehow manages to have semi-open world jumpscares which I've never seen but always wished for.
Oh, and the game actually ends. But what happened to Ruvik is completely ignored.
There's also a sidequest in the game which could have potential for a future DLC, which will never come, but I find very interesting.
If you liked the first game, I highly recommend the second. Because it's the first, except good. I even go as far as putting it on the same level as RE4.
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908b5f No.16821338
>>16820902
part 2 had
SO
MUCH
CUM
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e4c44b No.16821422
>>16816141
To think that infinite was considered many people's GOTY. I remember when I bought it, and didn't finish it until I finished the free copy of bioshock 1 it came with. Holy fuck, infinite was bad all around in gameplay, but the story is the cherry on top. The parallel universe nonsense, the ghost fights, the uninspired not-plasmids. While bioshock 1 & 2 were criticisms of libertarianism and utilitarianism (bioshock 1 more so than 2 was), I cannot decide what infinite was supposed to be. Fundamentalism? Blind fear of a supposed evil? None of it made sense. Why did they even bother with anything once Elizabeth could take them both to new dimensions? She could have just warped them both to a dimension where they had a blimp and could fly off to Paris. Makes no sense, as it was a timeline that should have existed.
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8731a7 No.16821454
>>16821422
>I cannot decide what infinite was supposed to be. Fundamentalism? Blind fear of a supposed evil? None of it made sense.
That's because Bioshock Infinite is an unfinished game, made by a hack developer, who wasted who knows how much money making several dozen builds of the same game until 2K had enough and told him to publish whatever was already "finished". Basically, almost the exact same thing that happened to Kojima with MGS5.
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8bf11f No.16821485
>>16821422
What pisses me off is the wasted potential. If the promotional material was of any indication, the game originally was built around the idea of exploring both sides of a social revolution while attacking the romanticized perspective of "good vs bad" so often associated with the image of the revolutionary opressed with the vox populi constantly escalating their hostility, up to and including public execution of innocent civilians, all motivated by a supposed hero of the people that in reality was just Red Comstock enacting a spiteful revenge, sort of mirroring the communist uprising in russia. Not that it was anything groundbreaking or totally unique, but it would've been nice to see a game that tackles an uprising in a more realistic maner and showcasing how it's rarely protagonists vs antagonists and that it often has the unfortunate consequence of deposing a tyrant only to have a worse tyrant take its place.
The idea of the player choosing when or even if they decided to interfere with some of the events hinted at a neutral point of view for you to reach your own conclusions, who knows how much the devs wanted to explore the setting through the mechanics of the game, but alas, we got stuck with whatever the hell the convoluted mess of release is. It's MUCH worse when you factor in the DLC episodes which are fucking amateur fanfiction on top of an already faulty story.
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c65d45 No.16821492
>>16821485
The closest you'll get to that is Just Cause 2.
Roaches were the best faction.
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8933ac No.16821493
>>16821338
Can't unsee.
But I think it was wax and it was never explained why.
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000000 No.16821704
>>16820830
>muh brainlet
plebbit tier namefagging
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33534c No.16821813
>>16816141
>>16821422
>>16821485
Infinite remains the only game I've ever played where I was actually angry at it for wasting my time after I finished. It managed to be simultaneously incredibly boring and god-fucking-awful and somehow that combination managed to become more than the sum of its parts. I've played worse games and more boring games (AAA games, even) but somehow Bioshock Infinite is still the biggest piece of shit I've ever played.
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1e6e76 No.16822739
>>16821813
I actually got the game for free with the leftover I had from Xbox Live Gold so my morbid curiosity wanted to see what the fuss was about. Just to get the "most" out of my free game, I played that shit in the highest difficulty and boy howdy was that shit completely fucking broken. At first it was really hard with everyone pretty much 3-shotting me until I remembered I could minmax the upgrades to hell and back by pumping all the stat gains into the shield (essentially giving you an infinite health bar that constantly grows) and mana to spam the shock-jockey since it's the most "cost-effective" of the vigors. I hit the roadblock with the ghost boss until I noticed that the shock-jockey actually burns enemy bodies, meaning that I entered a battle of attrition with the ghost until it had no bodies to resurrect, effectively rendering the fight completely pointless.
But that's not to speak of the true hilarity that ensues once I got the Winter Motherfucking Vest. Lots of people also complained how the handymen are awful at the highest difficulty but that's not entirely true, since you can constantly bait them to shock the rails with your sky hook, stunning themselves for a couple of minutes and giving you a chance to hit them a little bit before going at it again. It's pretty annoying and repetitive but that also renders the handymen utterly useless, but the Winter Vest makes you completely invincible for a few secons after landing from a sky rail, meaning that the last fight with a handyman, often considered one of the toughest parts of the game, was now nothing more than filler as you jump up and down the rail for maximum invincibility.
I know that this isn't precisely about the plot of the game but, since the topic of Infinite was brought up, I wanted to add how the game fails even at making an inflated difficulty mode. Doubly awful since they also touted 1911 Mode as this ultimate difficulty setting that drastically changes the way you play Infinite.
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1e6e76 No.16822742
>>16822739
>couple of minutes
What a retard, I meant secons.
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cdc92c No.16822758
>>16821813
>>16822739
I got curious and started reading the wiki to remember shit I forgot about the game. I remember the nigger killing the rich white man and then trying to kill the son of said white man. I think that, although stupid and confusing, it was a cool "The revolution is as bad as comstock" moment. Then I realize that in Burial at the Sea, the nigger dindunuffin and it was the twins that told her to kill the son of the guy, because niggers can never dindo.
I'm amazed, the only relatively well part I thought of the game was retroactively fucked.
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fa3877 No.16822767
>>16822739
>>16822758
I never understood how anyone thought this game was well plotted out. The ending was so bizarre. I understand the intent, but in actuality she takes Booker back in time to the point of baptism and drowns a man that no longer has any potential to become Comstock, at a point of time when he makes a choice that literally results in him *not* becoming Comstock in the first place. And then everybody clapped.
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cdc92c No.16822783
>>16822767
>>16822758
>>16822739
Oh, and since you mention handymen, Columbia as a setting is retarded, doesn't make sense, and it's far more boring and less functional than Rapture was. Handymen were supposed to be the Big Daddies of Colimbia, but their implementation is fucking retarded.
>Handymen were created to help disabled people
<Turns out that it doesn't help you but you are actually constantly in pain and that makes you a danger to everyone. They are not necessary for Columbia, and, on the contrary, are an actual threat to it
>Big Daddies were designed to protect little sisters and repair rapture underwater
<Although the process to become a Big Daddy is maybe as gruesome as handymen, their presence is VITAL for rapture, both for keeping little sisters safe and to repair the damn thing, and they only attack those who attack them
So you can see that Big daddies are vital for Rapture in every way, Little Sisters collect ADAM, after all, and their presence were more of noble giants, and served well as optional battles, which made them great, intimidating enemies, completely fitting of the setting.
Handymen? Don't make any fucking sense, nor for the story, nor for function, and they are shit enemies on top of that. They are just "sky monkey big daddies". I get that Columbia was supposed to be on decadence and misguided, I guess? But so was Rapture, and that was characterized better there, and even then, Big Daddies still worked as intended, whereas Handymen are only a threat because fucking design flaws that were going to blow with or without Booker.
To put it simple: Rapture was in decadence after a fucking civil war, and it worked better than Columbia in it's best years. Furthermore, Columbia was going to collapse very quickly with or without Booker, whereas the plot in Rapture moves on BECAUSE of Jack, seeing how it functioned for some years before Jack arrived, and even 10 more years for the events of Bioshock 2.
>>16822767
>I understand the intent
This is literally what I tell myself. I understand the intent, I truly do, the whole "there are infinite outcomes" was very clear, and the whole "You have to stop living so Comstock never exists in any time line" is interesting, but it's not well executed. And it's not the first time this happens, reminds me of that awful "butterfly effect" movie.
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1e6e76 No.16822810
>>16822758
That's actually one of the parts that ground my gears to a halt because the setup is non-existent: after reaching the part where the vox are in open revolt, everybody's like "oh fuck it's booker hell yes!" and treat you like a war hero since in that timeline the character is actually a martyr. For starters, they don't question how is it that Booker is alive, they just run with it, I assumed it was for the sake of keeping morale high, but then you reach the part where Daisy Fitzroy notices you, who you would think will use the oportunity to consolidate her position by announcing the heroic return of Booker and further her own goals, decides that "U IS ACSHULY A SPY OR SUM SHIET!!!" and suddenly EVERYONE in the vox turns against you. No one questions it or has second thoughts about fighting their supposed hallowed martyr and war hero, no divisive opinion on such a completely rushed decision on Daisy's part, no, it's like a switch gets flipped and now the vox wants you dead.
Then Daisy pulls the kid to be held at gunpoint. This bitch who you've met a total of what? One or two times? Suddenly is this awful leader who will kill a kid, and all for what? She kills the kid and then what happens? It's not like the kid holds big sway over anything and is just Fink's kid, she's just using it because plot convenience or some garbage, only to get killed like a retard by Elizabeth in one of the most ridiculous and melodramatic scenes I've ever witnessed. It's all forced, contrived and pulled out of nowhere with no buildup or foreshadowing of any kind, like within the span of a second the game goes from Vox Gud! to VOX BAD!!!, completely unwarranted and undermining the originally intended message of the game.
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996d02 No.16823115
>>16822783
I doubt the people behind Infinite thought about the setting more than "it's the new confederacy!". Frankly, there's so much shit about that game that just makes no fucking sense or is just there to piss you the fuck off. Like, if you spare the Confederate guy, he ends up being lobotomized while Booker makes a fucking quip about your choices not mattering, and i'm sure they only do that because they don't want you sparing Comstock, or even questioning why you can't spare him. Or how they end up permanently crossing over to another dimension, yet Booker is still fucking obsessed with getting the Disney princess, or the fact that the society is shown to fucking hate blacks, seemingly has no use for them outside of janitors, yet still allowed them onto their ideal version of paradise.
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3a30f3 No.16823151
>>16823115
>we hate nigs, ching chongs and the potato niggers lmao
>but we let them onto our super advanced flying city to be factory workers and janitors
>even though we can build a flying city, war robots with advanced IFF and targeting, automated train systems, etc. so a robot janitor or assembly line would be the simplest shit on earth to build
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13f088 No.16823211
>>16820830
>muh brainlet
>because building something under-fucking-water in 1950's would be totally possible and as reasonable as creating something in an empty space above ground
Read about Paolo Soleri and his arcology in the desert, there's nothing stupid about the idea.
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8ebbbe No.16823233
>>16823115
Bioshock Infinite is pretty similar to Prometheus. If you look into the development history, you'll see that the game had like 5 different pitches and they were all very different than the game we eventually got. My guess is that the reason the story and world are such a clusterfuck, is that they are the result of a lot of different scripts all stitched together without any attention to cohesion.
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39f25c No.16823241
>>16823211
On 13 November 2017, Daniela Soleri – Paolo Soleri's daughter – published an article on the website Medium accusing her father of persistent sexual abuse, writing:
"In my early adolescence, my father, an architect and craftsman, began sexually molesting me, eventually attempting rape when I was 17."
Based.
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3a30f3 No.16823244
>>16823241
>Encouraged to publish the article by the #MeToo movement, Daniela wrote that she had already come forward to many of her father's colleagues but received little
Reads like daddy issues to me. Plus, even a kiddy diddler can be right on some things.
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9812bf No.16823283
>We start with Dante who has apparently been getting sucked into limbo, fighting the demons who send him in, and leaving limbo for over 10 years. he's never asked any questions about who's responsible, why any of this happens, or has tried to put a permanent stop to it in that entire time.
>The main villain who is big bad business man owns the entire world through his demonic business stuff, he's worried about Dante despite the fact Dante is a dumb shit who has done nothing but piss around for over 10 years
>Dante's Twin brother the leader of Anonymous who has been hiding his existence for over 10 years and not doing anything himself send some chick to go get Dante. Dante is incapable of shooting the boss demons in order for Kat to throw a magic Molotov Cocktail that makes bullets effective, to seems like shes useful
>Dante and Kat go to talk to Vergil who Dante doesn't recognize as his Twin, Dante is then sent to his child hood home in order to remember the fact he's never going to forget that the big bad ripped out his mothers heart, despite the fact he forgot that for over 10 years.
>Dante and Vergil are now Half Angel, despite the fact there are no Angels in the game so their Angel lineage has zero relevance on the story, Sparda who was the catalyst for all of the original series events due to him being a badass who decided to save humanity from all of hell, is now just a balding guy who's only significant deed is the fact he fucked an Angel, and hid away from the big bad instead of doing anything about him, and then hid his children away wiped their memories, and is now forever a gimp in hell, that Vergil says it's impossible to save him, because it's impossible to save him.
>Vergil sends out Dante to do everything he wasn't doing himself for over 10 years, Dante kills a demon that's been producing mind control soda the big bad is visibly distraught over this despite the fact he's supposed to own the entire planet, and is controlling all of humanity with that soda, so you would assume he has more then one factory and more then one demon supplying the soda to over 6 billion people
>Next Dante fights demon Bill O'reilly to destroy demon Fox News that is also controlling the human race, this demon has been talking shit about Dante on TV so you would expect beating him to mean something, but Dante never interacts with the public a single time in the entire game so the news being against him doesn't really matter.
>The Swat Team busts into Anonymous headquarters and starts killing all the people there that Dante never interacted with a single time, Then Kat gets taken away
>Dante goes to fight and kidnap the big bad's mistress because she's pregnant, to use her as a bargaining chip to rescue Kat, The pregnant demon woman uses her unborn child as a giant boss monster, right after this fight, the swap between Kat and the mistress happens where Vergil does the sniper rifle abortion, your meant to feel bad about that I guess, despite the fact minutes ago the player was hitting that unborn child in the face with an Axe
>Finally Dante goes into the big bad's base to confront him (which would have just been the immediate first thing the real Dante would have done from the start) the big bad asks what has Dante actually accomplished beyond getting people killed, Dante is an idiot so he has no answer to this, and taunts him over the fact his child is dead to get him away from the thing giving the big bad his power.
>Vergil turns off the thing and they kill the big bad, only for Vergil to say now we will rule over humanity, The game now wants you to think Vergil is evil despite everything he does in the game making complete logical sense. Dante is an idiot so instead of trying to talk about why they shouldn't rule over humanity, Dante and Vergil just fight to the death.
>Vergil nearly dies and leaves to go to the DLC that is going to actual turn him evil so the sequel that's never going to happen will have him as the villain
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39f25c No.16823499
>>16823244
I wasn't negative.
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1e6e76 No.16823517
>>16823283
Man, the DLC is something else.
>Borgil, the calm and collected guy that did nothing but boss his brother around but generally had some sort of structure to work from is suddenly a retarded emo tryhard full of childish insecurities and massive mommy issues
<WAAH WAAH MOMMY WON'T LOVE ME MORE THAN MY BROTHER AND EVERYONE HATES ME FUCK SOCIETY LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR FEAR IS HOW I FALL BRING ME TO LIFE
>It ends with a fight against himself in front of his giant, beating black heart whoa dude the DEPTH 2highIQ4me
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