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File: 29168bf935f531a⋯.png (843.32 KB, 960x540, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

a0e87f  No.16801481[Last 50 Posts]

DOOM and DOOM II recently got an official update by Bethesda for all platforms (even iOS) adding a bunch of QoL improvements, some megaWADS and John Cuckero's SIGIL. The catch is that you have to use the (((Bethesda.net))) launcher.

Quick rundown:

http://archive.is/niyG7

Full list of patch notes:

http://archive.is/myCKM

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853cf6  No.16801513

Is there a point to this? Why not just play the original? I thought most of those QoL improvements already existed.

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736365  No.16801517

Lol so nothing special at all

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30fa46  No.16801543

>Performance Optimizations

>For doom

Just how bad are these "official" ports?

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df2218  No.16801559

>don't play source ports, goyim! pay for our official, jew-approved version, with mandatory malware!

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96e7f4  No.16801564

All of these are things source ports have had for over a decade

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4ede28  No.16801605

File: ad503119e9e913b⋯.jpg (19.54 KB, 392x286, 196:143, 5dc3bb3ef7e2bdb9a201256f82….jpg)

File: f3fb1fcda8d424f⋯.jpg (6.55 KB, 179x282, 179:282, f3fb1fcda8d424f80e0d22d156….jpg)

Isn't that like buying bottled water when your tap water is perfectly drinkable?

Or going to a shitty tanning salon during summer?

Or hiring an illegal mexican to mow your 10sqf of lawn?

Or buying a shit publishers gimped port of a game that's been ported and modded to hell and back by loyal fans?

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4ede28  No.16801608

File: 1dc71db178a52b7⋯.png (59.32 KB, 555x287, 555:287, MG.PNG)

File: c568884f04a7939⋯.png (24.13 KB, 549x211, 549:211, remember just using 1-6.PNG)

File: 05d68cda54c0edf⋯.png (160.01 KB, 900x112, 225:28, sweet little lies.PNG)

Tell me lies

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d8483f  No.16801649

What QoL improvements could they have added that we haven't already gotten in spades from source ports?

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433d9b  No.16801661

File: dc5e9217306cb4d⋯.jpg (62.47 KB, 800x600, 4:3, doomlogin-800x600.jpg)

Wish bethesda would keep their greasy paws of DOOM

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96e7f4  No.16801676

>>16801665

Fluorosis only causes problems in high doses of fluoride, though.

Rates of fluorosis aren't much higher in fluoridated areas than non-fluoridated areas.

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000000  No.16801680

>>16801665

*if you don't live in a shithole country :^)

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a17b62  No.16801682

File: 3a6c28bdef96615⋯.png (471.16 KB, 960x540, 16:9, DE_Slayers_Collection_tran….png)

>>16801481

>>16801543

>Is there a point to this?

The point is their trying to make up for the fact that when these newer ports first came out they were shit, and you were forced to login to Bethesda net if you wanted to play at all. as shown here >>16801661

They added all these "improvements" as well as more wads to try and save face, so it's easier to sell to normal fags who are playing Doom on Console there new collection to milk more money before Doom eternal comes out.

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a17b62  No.16801684

File: 022352992123cec⋯.jpg (10.94 KB, 479x479, 1:1, im bready.jpg)

>>16801682

<I used the wrong They're and Their both times

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51e449  No.16801692

>>16801676

>Fluoride by itself is the problem

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758793  No.16801711

>>16801665

Bottled water is just tap water, don't tell me your so stupid that you honestly think they get it from "pristine untouched mountain lakes"?

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df2218  No.16801719

>>16801665

This is why I drink only rainwater and pure grain alcohol, no connie's going to contaminate my precious bodily fluids

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30fa46  No.16801721

>>16801682

It amazes me how Bethesda can fuck up the performance and technical details on a game that's 33 years old now. I'm convinced they're doing it on purpose because there's no way you're this consistently incompetent on accident.

Speaking of Doom Eternal I'm convinced it will be just as shit and miserable as the 2016 game. I don't think I've had less fun with a game than Doom 2016, I would have much rather watched the Karl Urban doom movie, with its 90% bullshit science and "soldiers explore dark corridors" screen time than play that low rent Painkiller knockoff and I don't think adding a dash, a grappling hook and wall climbing is going to fix it.

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4ede28  No.16801737

File: 25274d46b8716b9⋯.png (91.41 KB, 240x240, 1:1, imagine it.png)

>>16801721

> I don't think adding a dash, a grappling hook and wall climbing is going to fix it.

No, but it will evolve into a low rent Shadow Warrior 2013 knockoff

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238103  No.16801750

>>16801737

Doom 2016 was already a Shadow Warrior 2013 rip off but with worse melee

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96e7f4  No.16801764

File: 059c2adfff8754d⋯.png (2.39 MB, 1693x916, 1693:916, Dental_fluorosis.png)

>>16801718

Anon, have you actually bothered to read that?

I did a simple search of that article and found people refuting it. Here's just one of the many issues

>Currently, about 41% of children in the United States, where water has been fluoridated at an average level of 1 ppm, have varying degrees of dental fluorosis—levels of over 50% in some fluoridated areas

>linked citation collected data from 1999-2004, not at all "currently"

>they're not even talking about skeletal fluorosis, they're talking about the condition where you get little white spots on your teeth

Basically, what they're saying is that fluoride is causing mild discoloration of teeth.

Of the areas where they actually talk about skeletal fluorosis, such as this

>Skeletal fluorosis is a chronic metabolic bone disease caused by ingestion or inhalation of large amounts of fluoride. In regions with water fluoride concentrations over 2 ppm, or among workers constantly exposed to fluoride in aluminium or fertilizer industries, skeletal fluorosis is common (>20% prevalence)

has no citations.

Other claims use citations that are roughly 20-30 years old which are usually about isolated areas or isolated events. Their claim that

> a study in Iowa found that 90% of 3-month-olds consumed over their recommended upper limits

Is based on a paper from 19 years ago, and it exclusively talks about infants. The paper they cited literally says " No statistically significant relationships were found for fluoride intake from 24-36 months."

Please, don't fall for random fearmongering, anon. Scientific papers have to be analyzed like everything else, don't blindly believe in somebody just because they appear to be an authority.

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2942c0  No.16801771

>>16801764

>you can't trust information that's too old

Yeah, that's why algebra is worthless now.

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63590d  No.16801782

>>16801771

>old information is only relevant when it supports my beliefs

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96e7f4  No.16801783

File: 7004ab5d576da59⋯.jpg (30.15 KB, 500x703, 500:703, this_fucking_shit_every_go….jpg)

>>16801771

Trying to argue anything about science with people on this site is fucking useless, you all just go straight to fallacies and strawmanning. Nobody here is actually scientifically literate in any way.

Let's just stick to Doom, this conversation won't be productive.

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9fda8c  No.16801790

>>16801783

Did Castlevania Doom ever get finished?

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c0d831  No.16801795

>>16801711

Literally look up where your bottled water is sourced you fucking idiot, they even have labels on the damn bottles you stupid bastard.

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2942c0  No.16801796

>>16801782

Who are you quoting?

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4ede28  No.16801802

>>16801783

What's next? Duke Nukem 3D patched by Gearbox or some- oh.

>>16801790

I'm pretty sure it's been finished and out for a while.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/castlevania-simons-destiny

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2942c0  No.16801807

>>16801801

>facts are superstition

>about 41% of children in the United States, where water has been fluoridated at an average level of 1 ppm, have varying degrees of dental fluorosis—levels of over 50% in some fluoridated areas

This is a fact. If you want to argue something else is causing it or the sample size is too small fine, but stop being superstition and worshiping fluoride.

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5b3917  No.16801834

I beat doom one and 2. I've messed around with wads and some shit on the infographic but I always get kinda lost. Should I just stick with that or do anons have recommendations on a good way to start sinking your teeth in to mods an wads?

>>16801665

wut about well water?

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7ac46c  No.16801912

>>16801661

This looks like something that would have been made as a joke back when Bethesda bought id.

I figured that after removing the red crosses on the health packs, the swastika in one map and the original art for the Wolfenstein levels they'd be done screwing with a 30 year old game.

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956853  No.16801982

File: 8e421d45b528d2b⋯.jpg (90.91 KB, 803x790, 803:790, Question!.jpg)

>>16801481

Can I run Moonman DOOM on my Bing Bing Wahoo?

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db9097  No.16801989

>>16801982

yeah, you can already get a doom sourceport and wads on switch for FREE

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883017  No.16801992

>>16801481

>red cross on items has been censored

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666e8d  No.16802367

>>16801992

>oh vey, christian imagery in a game where you fight fucking DEMONS from HELL

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f16529  No.16802385

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9fda8c  No.16802474

>>16802367

>>16801992

It's because the Red Cross are humongous faggots about that sort of thing.

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db9097  No.16802644

>>16802367

crosses arent christian, they never have been and never will be, its because the red cross has ownership of it and kikes any game that uses a red cross on their medical equipment, if you go to any hospital or pharmacy IRL you'll see crosses are mostly green

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11b7eb  No.16802650

>>16802644

>crosses arent christian, they never have been and never will be

Oy Vey!

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f4da6a  No.16802658

>>16801608

>500 MB fresh install

Does it include a video of Todd and Pete thanking you for being good goy or why is it so big?

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bb6aa7  No.16802661

>>16802650

The discussion is about the red + symbol on medkits, you tard.

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000000  No.16802717

>>16801665

>>16801718

If you don't trust the government on tap water why the hell would you trust the government and some random company on bottled water?

At that point go live innawoods, otherwise you're just LARPing.

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3b1b6e  No.16803239

>no one mentioned the censored wolfenstein SS yet

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0a796c  No.16805280

>>16803239

I was about to. What a strange decision to make.

It's like they're testing to see what they can get away with when they don't really need to.

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f16529  No.16805284

>>16803239

>>16805280

Nothing new, that dates back to the BFG Edition which is where the medikits were changed. Even way before that though there was the E1M4's computer swastika which was originally inverted, then corrected, then changed to a not-swastika. Also the German versions of Doom 2 removing the secret levels entirely.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_3:_BFG_Edition

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/E1M4#Inspiration_and_development

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e8d11b  No.16805295

File: c7fa04eca0ac289⋯.jpg (26.96 KB, 370x247, 370:247, wolf1.jpg)

File: c77a9cec0e347aa⋯.jpg (26.13 KB, 370x247, 370:247, wolf3.jpg)

>>16803239

These new ports have an odd compromise between the BFG cuts and the original. Medkits went from red crosses to pils to neon green crosses. The Wolf3D stages went from OG Nazis and Wolf names to cheat code names and turning the SS to Zombiemen with zero Nazi textures from Wolf3D to the old names back and SS with modded yells and the Nazi stuff turned to a triangle and no stache. Don't know why they didn't take inspiration from the GBA Doom 2 using the RtCW logo and stuff.

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7edfbd  No.16805333

>>16801605

>Isn't that like buying bottled water when your tap water is perfectly drinkable?

Not the same at all. Bottled water tastes much differently from tap water.

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d6cb1e  No.16805378

File: 692d1f2522d987a⋯.png (62.61 KB, 1764x236, 441:59, ClipboardImage.png)

File: b5b3c48d2b6edc5⋯.png (120.75 KB, 1145x505, 229:101, ClipboardImage.png)

Whatever you do, just don't play Brutal Doom, the dev is basically the evil clone of Mark.

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2f30ca  No.16805381

>>16805378

I'll play whatever the fuck I want.

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e52921  No.16805382

>>16805381

Ok, just don't go proclaiming the mod is good and worth anyone's time unless you want to support a fraud.

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30fa46  No.16805383

What are some good mappacks to play with Babel?

>>16805378

Having only played Project Brutality, it's neat but it adds too much visual clutter even when you disable most of the shit in the options and put on performance mode.

The amount of asshurt Brutal Doom seems to generate, both from people who play it and get frustrated that it doesn't run with another .wad or someone mad at SgtMarkIV is hilarious though.

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4837a1  No.16805420

>>16805378

So he's a better Mark?

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c6a3ee  No.16805438

File: 37ecfd495fc3b2c⋯.jpg (103.67 KB, 1024x577, 1024:577, 37e.jpg)

>>16805378

Why do racists make the best modders, /v/?

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fc9ba1  No.16805441

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>>16805378

Mark is a BR autist who gives no fucks

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fc9ba1  No.16805442

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ff526a  No.16805472

>>16805456

Claiming credit for something someone else made is being a giant asshole. The issue wasn't SgtMarkIV using the work of other people, it was him trying to get credit for what they did.

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f16529  No.16805505

>>16805456

I have no idea if there's any truth to Sarge using other people's work in his mod, but attribution is required in pretty much all open source licenses even the lax ones like FreeBSD has. It's only ones like Unlicense or WTFPL, or being in the public domain that don't. However even if you aren't obligated to do it it's common courtesy, and a lot of the popular mods are helped out by many and each other so it's just good sense to do it. Check a mod's credit page some time they can get stupid-long.

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6a235c  No.16805526

>>16805378

Jesus, how old are these pictures? SgtMarkIV is not banned on DW as of writing of this post and he has even released his "bolognese gore mod" over there and some maps but no one cares about them. I don't know his situation with ZDF because I don't use it but I can only assume that he's still banned there.

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5c012e  No.16805532

>>16805442

>Nudoom FORCES mouse acceleration

What the actual fuck why would a developer do that?

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cd4e1a  No.16805974

>>16805378

>>16805382

>>16805472

>SgtMarkIV cribbing freely available assets to make a free mod is bad

>Bobby Prince cribbing copyrighted material from various metal bands to make the original Doom soundtrack is fine

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be325a  No.16806029

File: 20101fdca885a3f⋯.jpg (23.26 KB, 600x350, 12:7, e029d03144210240159.jpg)

>>16805378

>evil clone of mark

but mark is already evil, does that make this guy DOUBLE EVIL?

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90f825  No.16806030

File: a9134a4ee6f6ba0⋯.jpg (16.79 KB, 500x505, 100:101, gas.jpg)

>>16805378

>waaaaaah muh stolen content :(

>waaaaaah rayciss :(

Redditors deserve scaphism.

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bb6aa7  No.16806081

>>16805505

He had attribution for other people's work, on the in-game help page. This simply wasn't good enough for people looking for things to have a problem with because he's an autist with wrong opinions and has to be shamed.

That's why even after he bent the knee and added more attribution for other people's work, they're still bitching about it.

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99be27  No.16806097

>>16805284

That was do to the American Red Cross claiming copyright on the icon

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ebe23b  No.16818508

File: 8dbe80201c0fccb⋯.jpg (232.37 KB, 1274x999, 1274:999, 148539028908.jpg)

>>16805378

It's been several months and they are still angry at him? lel

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7c7494  No.16818532

>>16818508

More like years. I even suspected that at least some of the /fit/ huehuehue's haters here were actually those very same redditors or ZDF/DW cucks. I'm not saying he's cool or whatever but it takes balls to piss off that many faggots.

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b5480e  No.16818562

File: 6d37c28c1ab5542⋯.jpg (21.2 KB, 480x360, 4:3, that's iligal.jpg)

>>16805378

>stole content to make free mod and didn't give people credit for stupid shit

So fucking what? You don't have to give people fucking anything at all if you're not making money off shit, the "credit" shit is literally just e-fame bullshit.

>Is sexist and racist

So is everyone and Mother fucking Theresa because of SJWs

>Using dead people pictures for a Doom mod

Oh no my gorey game has actual gore pictures in from the news and surgical photography it how can I get a fake boner for all this simulated blood now

>Told someone to kill himself on the internet

So has literally everyone on the internet.

>Told holocaust and racist jokes

Oh no my feelings

Even if this shit was verifiable it really changes nothing. A mod is a mod and a game is a game. That's all. Call the fucking waaahmbulance. Internet drama is fucking retarded.

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ebe23b  No.16818606

>>16818562

>So fucking what? You don't have to give people fucking anything at all if you're not making money off shit, the "credit" shit is literally just e-fame bullshit

The best part is that Grezzo does this fucking blatant and apparently nobody bats a eye to that but they just recognize it as a "meme mod". Also tons of other mods do similar shit yet they don't receive much flak for that either, so it's probably they just need some cheap excuses against Sgt. Mark IV.

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38f854  No.16818647

File: 2494f519d6057e7⋯.jpg (36.69 KB, 593x508, 593:508, fucking faggot.jpg)

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06ea36  No.16818663

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000000  No.16818665

>>16805378

>stole

<credited them in the second help page

>made the PC police butthurt

>hated by plebbit

An evil version of evil is good, right?

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ebe23b  No.16818845

File: f2441972ea8ccdb⋯.png (232.85 KB, 243x500, 243:500, 523890482390.png)

File: 7cea978245958bb⋯.gif (537.98 KB, 320x240, 4:3, bq-5c50bccbae8d5.gif)

>>16818562

A bespredel map pack would be cool.

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b5577e  No.16818848

>>16806030

Taking peoples work and claiming its your own is pretty scummy.

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ebe23b  No.16818852

>>16818845

I'm a idiot, meant to quote this post: >>16818663 Polite sage for off-topic

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260f2e  No.16818863

File: c08bd631e52a03b⋯.jpg (154.78 KB, 500x650, 10:13, 1914763b094d886f022b924b71….jpg)

Question.

They are putting mark through the wringer for trying to say he alone made brutal doom but what is their opinion on minecraft beginning as just being a pilfered version of infiniminer?

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2942c0  No.16818877

>>16806030

>>16818562

>defending not crediting people

Though I was suspicious because people who shout racist tend to be liars and look at

>>16818665

apparently he DOES credit them.

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7c7494  No.16818878

>>16818863

There are two main differences. Notch didn't shitpost/reveal his power level too much online compared to MarkIV and even after he got wealthy he still looks like a fat loser and even when he spergs on twitter he sounds just like a random fag ranting about everything, so they don't give a shit. Secondly, and this is also related to the spaghetti spilling, a lot of the Doom community's old timers have been idfags since the first Wolfenstein, a series of games which have always been about killing Nazis so of course generations of jews and redditors feel right at home in those forums. The truth is they only shit on him because of his opinions and edgy jokes, not because he stole some assets or whatever, they always put the credits bullshit first when listing his sins to make it seem that their accusations are credible and genuine while it has always been done as a form of thought policing.

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9fe7fb  No.16818888

File: 650a9a4dc1c69b3⋯.png (63.46 KB, 213x287, 213:287, 650a9a4dc1c69b30cdb3ee3266….png)

>>16818878

And that's where it falls apart for me. You can't pick and choose your fights like that unless you want to make your argument look more like a witch hunt rather than trying to create parity. That shit actually pisses me off more than some faggot trying to say he made a mod by himself. At most all they are doing is using his corpse as a reminder to other modders not to break their social dogmas. I hope this crusade doesn't kill future mods in fear they might be next on the chopping block.

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247c5e  No.16818899

File: 53bf5123d8aced6⋯.jpeg (36.15 KB, 400x400, 1:1, D53C7955-3A7C-45B1-BD34-7….jpeg)

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ebe23b  No.16818924

File: ea036345aa2ab94⋯.png (450.78 KB, 500x502, 250:251, Check these Quads.png)

>>16818888

Nice quads.

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eb68e2  No.16818931

>>16818888

I see it this way. Anyone who wants to make a mod is going to make it regardless of whether or not it gets praised for being stunning and brave or shat on for the creator's haram opinions. Unless it's a paid mods shitfest of a game.

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c8cb56  No.16819094

File: 7e771739b92e9a4⋯.webm (888.92 KB, 320x240, 4:3, Proofs.webm)

>>16805378

>using pictures of real dead people for the mod's gore

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c1eaba  No.16819100

>>16805378

I can't recall anything lately that made me more interested in trying a game out than this. Just do opposite of what they say.

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7218bf  No.16819197

File: 962c90239767b62⋯.jpg (118.66 KB, 914x600, 457:300, fun things are fun.jpg)

>>16805378

>reddit hates him

SgtMarkIV is my hero.

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115828  No.16819205

>>16805378

>>16818562

>>16819094

I've played tons of Brutal Doom for years and never noticed any illustration or sprite that resembled any real gore pic. I'll call bullshit on that.

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ef0ec7  No.16819516

>>16819205

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/realgorebdv3

I think it relates to this but I suspect it doesn't relate to real gore it's just a name.

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968499  No.16819564

anyone got an updated doom wad pack they could upload? it seems the doom collabs don't use link shortenerss i have are all dead now

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fe2242  No.16819572

>>16819516

Judging by the whining and the fact that he actually backed down on it i'd say it was real gore.

Except treating a corpse like allah is even dumber than than the allah case. What a bunch of fags.

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671464  No.16819573

Kind of unrelated, but is the .wad Interstellar Enforcer dead? The last updates seem to be back in 2018.

>>16819516

Apparently it does use actual gore.

Which brings up the question why is actual gore and T&A bad but fake gore a-okay?

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ebe23b  No.16825655

File: 7f4e1f45b7b6459⋯.mp4 (5.05 MB, 498x360, 83:60, Unreal Tournament '99 GOTY….mp4)

>>16819197

There needs to be a port of Brutal Doom weapons for UT99, would be fun to play it with the UTJMH Monster Hunt game mode.

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82c8be  No.16825767

File: d127a454502c7bf⋯.jpg (76.05 KB, 560x420, 4:3, floppy.jpg)

>>16801608

>300+ megs patch

>for a game that originally came on floppies

Modern developers are shit.

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4bb09d  No.16832257

>>16805438

When you don't care about what others think you can make something good

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4fc932  No.16832369

>it runs on the unity engine

Trash.

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6a5547  No.16832466

File: f664c8c539c38bc⋯.jpg (74.04 KB, 800x549, 800:549, 1506510113999.jpg)

>>16805378

>redditors bitching about him being racist

>redditors bitching about him being sexist

>redditors bitching about pictures of real dead people

>redditors bitching about not giving credit, despite sgtmark giving credit

>redditors bitching about how he helped some faggot kill himself

wtf I love brutal doom now?

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98f49f  No.16832928

>>16832510

>Releasing a propietary patch to a propietary version of an open source game

Literally worse than hitler

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ef3c9e  No.16833413

>>16801513

There is no point it. It's just novelty. "Ooh! Look! It's Doom but slightly different!" Which is interesting to me, I check out different ports all the time.

The only exceptionally cool thing about this is SIGIL becoming an official Doom episode, and being able to play it on consoles.

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818e0a  No.16837106

Doom 1 and 2 can suck on my balls. Halo is where its at.

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636d26  No.16837133

>>16805378

>LITERALLY QUOTING LEDDIT

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636d26  No.16837136

>>16819205

Any real gore you can see in Doom will be literally 5 pixels large. I wouldn't be bothered.

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0561c3  No.16837465

>>16805333

that's because they add salt for taste.

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e71850  No.16838687

File: 98cab6fcfe50abf⋯.jpg (63.07 KB, 640x426, 320:213, 1543108846839.jpg)

GZDoom and Zandronum haven't worked since I updated my video drivers almost a year ago.

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c2646d  No.16838694

>>16838687

Go Chocolate.

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e71850  No.16838698

>>16838694

But what about the mods?

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5dbe3c  No.16838728

>>16838698

Roll back your drivers.

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e71850  No.16838783

>>16838728

how do I do that

t. computer retard

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e71850  No.16838797

>>16838783

Never mind, just did it. Let's see if it works.

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e71850  No.16838801

File: 3f420052d24b4f4⋯.png (15.26 KB, 496x321, 496:321, d.png)

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d482f1  No.16843584

File: cc5ac76229610c4⋯.jpg (290.23 KB, 1646x1442, 823:721, enough!.jpg)

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87c748  No.16843781

>>16818848

Everyone does it, even your shitty MS paint chicken scratch has been taken and someone claims it as their own. Even the tiny niche communities like pixel artists can expect their stuff to be used as shitty RPG maker assets.

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ceb586  No.16843792

/demonp/ is back, if any of you care.

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b8579b  No.16843797

>>16818562

>>16806030

>>16843781

You can all firmly get fucked.

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24517b  No.16857658

File: c5845a4143c4cd4⋯.png (3.41 MB, 1300x6971, 1300:6971, QUACK.png)

Maybe a bit off-topic, but does anyone have the pastebin mentioned in this infographic?

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d5c4a1  No.16857719

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24517b  No.16857742

>>16857719

Many thanks. I love that 2 & 3 are in that bin.

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a41c95  No.16861005

File: 54e4393ace162c3⋯.png (41.52 KB, 965x463, 965:463, doomwads.png)

File: 05bb6bac5bb87f4⋯.pdf (4.43 KB, readme.pdf)

Does anyone still have the archive will all the definitive IWADS (with bugfixed TNT and Doom 2 expansions)?

I forgot to archive it properly, and now it's all jumbled up in my old GZDoom folder.

I also believe it's missing an 'extra' folder as noted in the readme file (rename the .pdf to .txt)

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b7fcf2  No.16861016

File: fb8f961a0d7519d⋯.jpg (37.24 KB, 528x480, 11:10, skele sadder.jpg)

Started playing Brutal Doom v21 and even loaded up Hexen with GZDoom.

Jesus fucking christ, how has gaming regressed so badly in thirty years that fucking 2D vector maps presented via a primitive first person raytracer present greater level design than is possible in full 3D?

And the enemy variety is better. And the weapon variety is better. And the weapons feel like they hit the enemies harder.

Even the basic melee in Hexen has a nice meaty thwack to it.

Fuck this gay industry.

Also, any recommendations for WADs? Mappacks or TCs welcome.

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ba98cb  No.16861019

File: fad255601ae41b0⋯.jpg (26.52 KB, 612x408, 3:2, 174943017.jpg)

checkem

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c2646d  No.16861038

>>16861016

Been playing GMOTA and High Noon Drifter in ObAddon generated maps.

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72bcb9  No.16861045

>>16818663

>>16818508

I wish there was a way to fucking watch this movie but I can't find it anywhere, after finally figuring out its damned name.

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b7fcf2  No.16861047

>>16861045

What's the name of the movie?

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72bcb9  No.16861055

>>16861047

Bespredel, apparently from 1989.

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19fc55  No.16861760

So boomer meme man released a 2016 video, will the

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19fc55  No.16861762

GG

>>16861760

Will the contrarian niggers change their opinions now seeing as /v/ tend to felate his shit to no end?

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cd4e1a  No.16862348

>>16861005

Aw you saved my post, how sweet.

If I'm not mistaken the GOG version of Final Doom now includes the bugfixed TNT and Plutonia WADs, so anywhere you can get GOG stuff should be good for those

For the extra stuff I can reupload it later, do we still have the same vola? Although it should all be stuff you can find elsewhere, but I'm sure I still have the same zip kicking around here somewhere.

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3214cf  No.16862382

>>16861760

At least he didn't post a Doom Eternal shill video of him saying that it's going to be the greatest FPS since Half Life like gjewlives.

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674e51  No.16862388

>>16861760

Civvy borders from entertaining to irritating. My opinion on 2016 hasn't changed, it's a fun game but it isn't fun for the reasons I enjoy Doom 1/2 which is mainly the raw speed and the multiplayer. So far Eternal is looking to be a better version of 2016 with a bunch of movement shit cribbed from Unreal Tournament/Quake so I imagine I'll enjoy it. I just wish that they didn't fucking triple down on the glory kills.

Not only do you now have glory kills and the chainsaw, but they were generous enough to give you even more canned shit to 1hko enemies with the sword and a "blood punch" which I think is basically just single use berserker pack punch. Not to mention they went in on making your resources even more dependent on using their updated execution systems, as if you're not using the glory kills/chainsaw/flamethrower/ you're probably going to be starving for resources on Ultra Violence or higher.

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a41c95  No.16862392

File: 3baaa76d0f37956⋯.png (116.38 KB, 479x347, 479:347, mondo cool.png)

>>16862348

Good to see you're still here anon.

Out of all the WAD repacks found in the threads/generals,

yours was the most organised out of the lot and I wish I saved it properly when I had the chance.

>do we still have the same vola?

I think so. But in the off chance they changed it, it's at 'volafile.org/r/vg'.

Cheers!

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cd1b33  No.16862499

>>16861760

>boomer meme man

Who?

>Will the contrarian niggers change their opinions

Fuck no. I honestly gave 2016 a fair chance, thinking the reputation for it was unfair and it was one of those "good games but not a good X game". I ended up with the only game I actively found myself becoming more and more miserable the more I played it. Will the contrarian niggers actually argue as to why the game's any good?

Also attempting to find any youtube channel that actually has your opinions on anything is impossible. The most you can do is hope that they're entertaining and they can present their arguments reasonably well. Otherwise I would have died from an aneurysm whenever anyone mentions the marvel movies, any post PS2 Naughty Dog game, Doom 4 or the Spyro remakes.

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874b07  No.16863462

File: ce8323610f1f0c2⋯.png (125.33 KB, 218x357, 218:357, yot.png)

>>16818924

>gets a 4

It's close enough for me anon you have a nice day.

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6964f4  No.16863530

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

New "Master Level" for Doom Eternal

>Build a new Doom Game from the ground up and the reason is to compel people to Watch and Stream

>Doom Dies becoming Stream b8 and Mods kept its legacy alive

Jesus Christ. Can't they just kill the game already and Modders made better games than them anyway

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d3a0d6  No.16865503

>>16863530

Jesus Christ how does this game not have more than five aggressive enemies on screen?

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875168  No.16865514

>>16865503

Engine can't handle it. Thanks to all the fluff.

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a17b62  No.16865524

File: 1c466aa0b35e4d5⋯.webm (1.85 MB, 852x480, 71:40, Welcome to the Rice Feild….webm)

>>16865503

What this anon Said >>16865514

Triple A games have to focus on Graphical bullshit in order to win over the lowest common denominator, Gameplay potential isn't as important, and big publishers are cowards that will never green light a game like looks like EDF that's main priority is being fun, because according to charts other things are more important. So long as the people "Think" the game "looks" good, it doesn't matter if the gameplay actually lives up to all it's potential, since once the game is purchased it doesn't matter if anyone actually replays it or even finishes it once.

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992158  No.16865531

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Did you guys see or hear about the horrible TV Spot Eternal got that not even fans were happy? No? well feast your eyes.

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1203b9  No.16865533

>>16805378

I bet you're one of those faggots that almost killed that megaman modder because of muh feels.

Fuck off and your dramashit faggot.

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31472e  No.16865554

>>16865531

I don't see why nudoom fans would be upset about the music. I can guarantee roughly 98% of nudoom fans have never listened to anything heavier than enter sandman and would primarily listen to rap music to begin with.

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a17b62  No.16865563

File: 9894f840ad24b60⋯.webm (3.67 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Doom TV spot. Completely ….webm)

>>16865531

You can find 100's of people remixing or overhauling the trailer completely in attempts to fix it.

>>16865554

It's not about the actual song, it's about "Rap ≠ Doom"

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b2634d  No.16865568

>>16865563

>it's about "Rap ≠ Doom"

Well, WUB WUB BRRRRRATATATA WOOOOOOB DRDRDRDRDR isn't Doom either, but they like that.

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31472e  No.16865652

>>16865563

That sounds like absolute shit. You have to feel bad for Mick Gordon. He has access to top end equipment and recording studios and yet he still can't make a song that rivals anything from DOOM.

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627bcb  No.16865684

>>16865652

>He didn't steal all his riffs from other people.

Yeah, what a fucking hack.

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ec4db2  No.16865701

File: a028fae4cdba018⋯.jpg (432.3 KB, 967x1442, 967:1442, zss titter.jpg)

>>16863530

>people say controllers are inferior for FPS games

>i'm here to prove them wrong

>by playing NIGHTMARE MODE in our new DOOM GAME!!

<immediately dies

<continues to die repeatedly

>jeez guys our game is so hard haha the hardcore gamers are gonna love it

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ff526a  No.16866221

>>16865584

It was fucking electronic white noise was what it was. Barely a clear melody in the entire soundtrack, just rambling electronic noises and guitar riffing. Not a single memorable track in the lot.

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d3a0d6  No.16866242

>>16865701

THE STREAMERS ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS THIS IS SO FUN TO WATCH ISN'T IT GUYS

It feels like the entire world is playing a big joke on anyone who didn't like Doom 4, except the joke isn't funny and it's been going on for four years now.

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31472e  No.16866256

>>16865684

And? surely he should be able to make even one song that rivals anything Bobby Prince stole but he can't. So who is the real hack here exactly? Not one song from 2016 or Eternal is going to be remembered in five to ten years time meanwhile everyone is going to remember At Dooms Gate, Kitchen Ace, and Hiding the Secrets among others.

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b2634d  No.16866396

File: 76658ea7e4cc9ba⋯.jpg (35.74 KB, 777x704, 777:704, big think.jpg)

>>16866242

Remember when Croteam offered to make Doom 4, and already had a tech demo and some other stuff? But id told them to fuck off, before doing nothing with the Doom IP for another six years? And only then did they make a game that's worse than Serious Sam 2? How do you think they'll feel when Serious Sam 4 cucks their game into oblivion and becomes a runaway success?

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4757fe  No.16866456

If Beth is taking a short break from completely half-assing things, can we expect some care put into the upcoming Doom 64 port? I know PC remakes exist but I'm kinda psyched about a "real" port, especially if it has *anything* new. It's my favorite Doom game and my favorite N64 game.

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ba7be2  No.16866466

Of all the Doom and Quake games, which one has the largest mod and/or multiplayer community? Haven't played any of them for years, so I have no idea. I think it's fun to make some maps, but I'd like to be able to play them with people too.

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ec4db2  No.16866479

>>16866466

Singleplayer map-making and modding is centered on Doom.

Making maps is centered on Doom2 using UDMF at the moment. You can start mapping easily using Doom Builder 2 or Ultimate Doom Builder. All you need is a copy of the Doom2.wad

>>16866456

I'm just hoping Doom64 uses some kind modern sourceport with easily usable and modifiable wad files so we can start modding it the same as we mod regular Doom without needing a specific builder or editor.

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734af4  No.16866489

>>16866456

I'd say the chances are high that they're just gonna ask the guy behind D64EX, considering he's basically freelancing and using his engine to port older FPS fo commercialr reeditions / remasters.

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d3a0d6  No.16866506

>>16866396

I think SS4 will be better as a game, but will not be more successful. Doom 4 and Eternal are unfortunately too hyped, marketed and memed for it to be anything but a massive success. It's because for these fucking casual idiots nothing but the most marketed exists. They can't go ahead and seek any game that hasn't been plastered all over their TVs, PCs and mobiles, that hasn't been shilled to hell and back by garbage tier youtube channels. Anything else is yucky because you might have to form your own opinion on it and who knows what might happen from there.

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d3a0d6  No.16869111

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I have nothing more to say on Bethesda Doom, but I came across this video of a supposed Doomguy VA for Quake 3. I never really thought Doomguy could sound like Caleb or really anything but what I assume Angron should sound like, but I kind of like it.

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d3a0d6  No.16869125

>>16869114

They're published by Bethesda. Hell this trainwreck of an official port is also published by Bethesda.

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ec4db2  No.16869184

File: 001ca888d0c811c⋯.jpg (84.8 KB, 523x332, 523:332, skele_lol_3.jpg)

>>16869131

>Publishers mean nothing to game development.

That's the most naive thing I've ever fucking read on an imageboard.

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63590d  No.16869185

>>16869111

I like the lines but the voice makes it sound like a teenager trying to be edgy. Doesn't fit his musculature.

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ff526a  No.16869226

>>16869131

Yes, publisher meddling has never affected a game's development at all. Just ask Factor 5 about Lair.

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b84a86  No.16869240

>>16869131

You reek of newfag, lurk a million years before posting.

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c122dc  No.16869267

>>16801605

it's more like buying tap when you have a guy at the bottled water company who can get it to you for free because he has a few extra

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3cc38f  No.16869549

>>16801605

I got added fluoride in my water supply, no way I'm drinking that shit.

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788f7e  No.16870117

metadoom updated and now you can make maps for it or something

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ec4db2  No.16870436

DOOM 64 UPDATE NEWS

>new post-game bonus campaign

>motion controls on Switch

>touch screen support for map navigation

>yada yada

<NEW POST-GAME BONUS CAMPAIGN

https://archive.is/JnZbi

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4757fe  No.16870914

>>16870436

It makes it sound like just a couple levels but still, gotta play it day one. I still haven't tried Doom 2016 lol.

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ec4db2  No.16871649

>>16870914

> I still haven't tried Doom 2016 lol.

It was decent if you played it as action-oriented Metroid Prime game and got all the collectables and upgrades, but it was not a good Doom game.

The only real Doom game launching in the next month is Doom64.

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