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10d861 No.16798930[Last 50 Posts]
I know it's 2 days early, but fuck it, might as well start speculating about how awful it will be anyway. Honestly, what even do they have to announce here? Only thing I can think of is that they'll reveal that the next Smash fighter is a Sw/Sh rep, but it feels too early to announce the next big pokemon game, even by GF standards. I somehow doubt they're going to patch in the missing parts of the dex, because they clearly don't need to put out a complete product to get people to buy the game en masse. I guess there's also the possibility of them patching Sw/sh and adding more postgame, but that seems similarly unlikely. I could also see them announcing another spinoff title, but why would they need 20 minutes to do that?
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5a4441 No.16798968
Isn't it just the pokemom HOMO shit?
WPWYF?
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4638ce No.16799041
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491d6f No.16799053
>>16798930
>Finally get a direct
>It's a Pokemon direct
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be1618 No.16799055
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c0854e No.16799057
Whatever it is, I hope there's a cute girl.
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ae12da No.16799059
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bc0bbd No.16799066
>>16799057
that punk girl isn't cute.
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491d6f No.16799067
>>16799059
GET THIS FURSHIT OUT OF MY SIGHT YOU FILTHY FUCKING DEGENERATE
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491d6f No.16799068
>>16799066
I thought that character was a boy
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7080e9 No.16799075
Does someone still have that "Pokemon alternatives" list?
Just found another series to add to it:
<Mobile Phone Beast Telefang
>>16799057
What if the girls are the Pokemons?
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d9c09f No.16799079
>>16798930
Yeah because its totally impossible to announce their yearly release this early.
Totally. Its not like its likely to be the third version again like last time so i don't see whats odd about them announcing their nigger pearl/faggot diamond or whatever this early.
Its not like announcing a game now implies its coming out around this time of the year either.
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6b4416 No.16799094
Y'know, the only thing that isn't bugging me is that, if they do a gen 4 remake, they'd have to put in more pokemon than sword and shield, and I don't know if I can even trust em to do that, what with the amity square
Like
WUT WOH FUCKER, slapping the model of your pokemon behind you? Shit we have to cut like 30 pokemon for that.
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9a39c3 No.16799108
>>16799075
-Medabots rpg games (like 11)
-Robopon series
-Azure Dreams (gbc game that was a port of a Playstation game)
-Disc Creatures (a one man made game that tries to imitate the old GB pokemon games)
-Zok Zok Heroes (gbc game, no translation)
I am sure i am missing tons
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f13da8 No.16799109
Mary was the only good part of Sword and Shilled, prove me wrong
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167df8 No.16799110
>>16799094
Just cut all the Sword & Shield pokemon then.
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892d87 No.16799111
>>16799110
GAme already oUT bRo
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3ca870 No.16799112
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f13da8 No.16799116
>>16799112
That's not Mary, that's a furry cosplayer
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167df8 No.16799118
>>16799111
>anon talking about hypothetical generation 4 remakes
>your dumb ass thinking we're referring to fucking sword and shield
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6f9a95 No.16799124
>>16798930
I expect something like that to happen
>yadda yadda Sword and Shield best release since Red and Blue and Yellow, self-congratulating for that
>to thank you for that, please watch this
>DLC for Smash Bros, not the fifth of the Fighters Pass but one outside of that
>It's Eevee, with a temporary evolution mechanic akin to Shulk's Monado Arts to allow it to use all its eeveelutions, each with a different usefulness
>Vaporeon is focused on defense, with longer and bigger shields, and a better knockback on weaker attacks
>Jolteon is focused on speed, with faster move speed and a chance to inflict a bit of damage through shields
>Flareon is focused on strength, with stronger smashes and higher shield reduction on hit
>Espeon is focused on strength too, with stronger non-smash attacks and a bit of Lucario's aura mechanic
>Umbreon is focused on defense, with super armor on some moves and less damage taken
>Leafeon is focused on speed, with higher jumps and another jump
>Glaceon is focused on balance, with chance to freeze the enemy on hit and to leave a trail of ice on the ground behind it
>Sylveon is focused on balance, with chance to inflict Lip's Stick continuous damage effect on hit and ranged attack absorbtion on shielding
>Explaining and showing this takes half the Direct
>Then, a bit of apologizing
>Yadda yadda we listened to your concerns, so please watch this
>Another trailer, showing Sw/Sh's wild area
>Especially the lake in the middle, where bubbles come out
>Here comes out Kyogre
>Theme packs announced for Sw/Sh, each adding a legendary to Wild Area for free, and adding between 30 and 50 old pokes through a $5.00 paid patch
>First one is Kyogre, alongside Water pokes coming from the deep (think families like Clamperl, Staryu, Horsea and so on), available right after this Direct
>Second one is already shown, it's Groudon with Desert pokes (Sandshrew, Cubone, Slugma, Houndour families and so on)
>During said presentation, you can sometimes see a weird silhouette zipping through
>An event legendary they'll distribute "soon"
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3ca870 No.16799160
>>16799116
the only Mary was an irrelevant gen 2 NPC
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bc0bbd No.16799162
>>16799112
>only good part of swoshi.gif
alcremie is pretty cute, too.
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668ece No.16799174
What I want:
>TPC lets Koei Tecmo make Pokemon Conquest 2 finally
>Pokemon Trading Card Game Online switch port
What we will get;
>Pokemon Home shilling
>mobile game shilling
>Them patting themselves on the back for Sword/Shield sales
>then announcing new raids for that shit show
>Pokemon UltraSun/UltraMoon service termination
>announcing that the next annual pokemon games are happening but no info until a later date
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f13da8 No.16799178
>>16799160
>he doesn't know
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a9342c No.16799180
>>16799174
What do people actually WANT in a new Pokemon game?
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74b145 No.16799194
>>16799109
That's impossible because you're right.
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668ece No.16799195
>>16799180
People that actually care about the series; A finished product with enough content to warrant the the 59.99 price point
People that only consume pokemon for brand's sake; a box with the pokemon logo on it
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57634e No.16799207
>>16799180
Something that isn't pandering to the Angry Birds and Candy Crush audience.
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b923cd No.16799219
>pokemon ranger port
>pokemon snap 2
>pokemon mystery dungeon: a spinoff of mystery dungeon another new game
>pokemon detective pikachu new game not a port that they mentioned but everyone forgot due to brain damaged
>another pokemon stadium
>pokemon dash 2
>another pokemon rumble
>pokemon typing adventure 2
>pokken tournament 2
most of the pokemon spinoffs are infinitely better than the mainline
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3ca870 No.16799228
>>16799178
I know nobody cares about DJ Mary, that's for sure
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f13da8 No.16799232
>>16799228
Mary is the real name of "Marnie", whoever did the translation must've been high.
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c2d6fc No.16799269
>>16799059
>female voice
>male pikachu image
Fucking trapfags
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9269b0 No.16799282
Sprite based Pokemon seemed more interesting compared to 3D models. They could just do sprites and sell the game for $25. The 3D design of Pokemon is just very sterile compared to something like dragon quest XI which better conveys the look of the old titles & artwork. The world just looks empty. Even the lower res 3D Pokemon look much better in older titles and probably take less time to model. I bet they shit up mystery dungeon with awful plastic 3D as well.
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d9c09f No.16799284
>>16799282
I mean we've already had two 3D mystery dungeons.technically three
/ss/ is clearly aping the 3DS games for whatever reason, lets goy isn't that bad from that perspective.
I can't see a lot of those remnants making it into a spin-off.
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9269b0 No.16799302
>>16799284
Well shit, I still think if they returned to the older design with modern rendering and lighting on the switch (something like octopath but toned down) it would be more visually appealing.
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653d0f No.16799307
>>16798930
Gen 6/7/8 pokemon would look like utter shite as sprites unfortunately, sprites have done it. Ugly lazy designs.
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653d0f No.16799309
>>16799307
*spriters have done it
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73bb91 No.16799310
>>16799057
What the fuck is that thing on the oil barrel
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653d0f No.16799311
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d9c09f No.16799312
>>16799302
I can't specifically say the 3D games looked bad for what they were on; nor were the actual locations really toned down.
Its hard to say if a console SMD like game would really take after the mainline at all in terms of visual quality.
Though super would imply otherwise honestly.
Sprites do match up better with the storybook aesthetic better usually though.
>>16799310
Pikajew 7.0
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5ebb35 No.16799472
>>16799066
All pokegirls are cute. They should make a game where you gotta fuck em all.
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5a4441 No.16799494
File: c7bd36c8bc9840c⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 307.97 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 90072402bac14c59dea73a164d….jpg)

>>16799059
>>16799269
Finally, some fucking audio to go with this image. I hope it makes someone cum tonite.
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5de1f4 No.16799502
Which Pokemon would you sissify and make a girl?
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5a4441 No.16799514
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55a5fd No.16799527
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5ebb35 No.16799538
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ae12da No.16799542
>>16799494
>>16799502
>>16799269
I accidentally posted a photo of a male Pikachu instead of a female one, stop being fags about it. I'll re-render the damn thing if you want.
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0208ff No.16799572
File: 5d4200e7b7d723e⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 12.43 MB, 1160x986, 20:17, 7c19b5c110cb22f0d3c7417c5d….mp4)

>>16799502
Can't think of any but I do want a Pokemon to do this to me.
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5a4441 No.16799595
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3ea535 No.16799603
>>16799075
Saved back in November, so this might not be the latest.
>>16799108
>Azure Dreams (gbc game that was a port of a Playstation game)
A neutered port, in that it cuts out the town building and relationship aspects. Unless you're strictly caring about the dungeon crawling and monster allies, I suppose.
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a9b7e3 No.16799702
It's nothing but Home, maybe whatever Sleep is, and maybe some other shitty mobile shit. I expect nothing good of it. That includes announcing a DP remake, because I don't need a shit remake of an already shit game.
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d9c09f No.16799745
>>16799702
DP is literally the most solid base mainline game technical issues aside though.
Literally all the mainline base pokemon games can be called shit. Everything from RG to BW do not feel good to play for multiple reasons.
DP is just a lesser version of a game that actually candidates for "the best game in the series".and not due to memey side mechanics like HGSS
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2aa4fb No.16799750
I bought my nieces LG Pikachu/Eevee for Christmas. They'll probably want to get the main games in the near future and play with me. My only wish is that Gamefreak can stop being absolute fuck-ups long enough to produce a game that I'm comfortable buying to play with them. I don't even need it to be great, just stop doing obviously stupid things that make me want to boycott them.
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55a6af No.16799770
>>16799745
>DP is literally the most solid base mainline game technical issues aside though.
That's because you grew up with the damn game you lying idiot, it always goes up with the newer generations since people lose interest in Pokemon as they get older since it's just the same shit over and over again.
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1db0ff No.16799778
>>16799745
But only BW is worth it as a base mainline game due to its different story and only allowing new Pokes till after the E4. DP is thoroughly outclassed by Platinum.
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a5407f No.16799787
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d9c09f No.16799796
>>16799770
Yeah no, i don't know what your on. And your evaluation is incorrect, i'm not that young.
RG are shitshows of extreme proportions, GS are terrible because all the trainers have amazing terrible teams.atleast they remembered to make learnlists actually scale trainers though
And RS is a shit region featuring more really bad trainers.though not from a pokemon diversity perspective this time at least
>>16799778
>the improvement is an improvement
What a shocking revelation, you do realize that remakes you know; actually keep stuff from the third versions.
Its not going to be literally DP. But its going to be DP with some of platinum slapped in.not the battle frontier though because thats illegal
And being forced to run gen 5 only isn't really worth that much honestly.no exp mode was fun though.
I still wouldn't say its worth playing.
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55a6af No.16799814
>>16799796
>And your evaluation is incorrect, i'm not that young.
You don't have to be, the kind of kid that would have grown up playing DP in 2006 would be in his early 20s right now, you're only going to get older.
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d9c09f No.16799819
>>16799814
Yeah you only look like fucktard by ignoring context you know?
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bc0bbd No.16800049
>>16799787
>Based if gen 4 remake.
>Implying it won't have a Zinnia-like cunt shoved into it.
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10d861 No.16800069
>>16799787
>There are people that actually want a G4 remake
>After ORAS
>After the past few gens in general have been underwhelming at best
I'd be all over it if I could actually trust GF to execute correctly. But that's definitely not the case at this point.
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c0854e No.16800070
>>16800069
Diamond and Pearl were pretty underwhelming, and had shit optimization so they'd fit in perfectly with S/S.
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44863e No.16800135
I'm having a hard time deciding whether Game Freak or Sonic Team is more inept.
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d9c09f No.16800154
>>16800135
Forces was just a shitty engine show, but thats the catch; even boost sonic is good visually.
Sonic games haven't been in a stagnant cycle of releasing very similar games outside of useless side mechanics either.
Forces really isn't close to how bad modern pogaymans is.
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6b4416 No.16800216
>>16800135
Sonic has had three recent bad games
1. A Nintendo funded title meant to pad the wii u's library
2. A tie in with a show that got the system switched three quarters of the way through development
3. A mostly finished engine update for generations, that got a rushed story slapped on and was tied in so Mania wouldn't have been the only Sanic thing to happen at that time.
Even if we're going back you're looking mostly at exceptions rather than rules.
Sonic Shuffle A 1-off mario party clone that's broken
Sonic R (Not even developed by sega)
Sonic '06
Sonic Chronicles
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bc0bbd No.16800299
>>16800216
>Sonic Chronicles
What was wrong with it, besides the music problem?
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fff341 No.16800333
>>16800299
It's been over a decade since I've played it, but I remember the gameplay being an utter slog and the environments being hideous.
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d9c09f No.16800342
>>16800135
>and environments being hideous
I remember it just clashing with the characters moreso than actually be actively bad looking. Merely bland from what i remember.
But yeah i remember it being a slog.i also only played up till eggman appears if i remember right so i could have just not made it to the uglier areas
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9674aa No.16800368
>>16800216
>Sonic R (Not even developed by sega)
Hey, that was a fun game. It's just a terribly designed racing game.
>Sonic Chronicles
That is a Bioware game, that also caused Ken Penders to have his autism fit.
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4d9449 No.16800528
>>16800299
forced touchscreen because bioware really only knew pc rpg design, which lead to context commands to do shit that you should have been able to do just by virtue of a controller
minimized story presence of some characters to the point you question why they're even there (Vector appears for exactly one line of dialogue)
Amy seems to be trying to cuck you (her new boyfriend is a fake, which she admits if you're nice to her the whole game)
can't romance Rouge the bat tats
original the echidna civilization, do not steal (seriously, practically ripped wholesale from Archie)
ads for bioware's website in loading screens
loading screens on a mostly 2D background cartridge game
an overall slow pace that fails to feel like Sonic. The DS can do better and so could bioware
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d94d25 No.16800546
So one of the things the direct will cover got accidentally leaked on an official pokemon twitter account. They're patching in pokemon or at least their alternate forms, so Kanto Ponyta and pink Gastrodon.
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b714fa No.16800551
>>16800546
I thought alternate forms of pokemon already in the game being transferable was a known thing? While there aren't any models, datamining found menu sprites and learnsets for alolan forms.
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d94d25 No.16800555
>>16800551
>I thought alternate forms of pokemon already in the game being transferable was a known thing?
This just confirms that they're gonna do something with all that left over data now. My money is on this shit was all gonna be in the base release but they rushed this shit heap out for the holiday season leading them to finally adopt the AAA "we'll fix it later "approach
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8b8be4 No.16800590
>>16800555
>finally adopt the AAA "we'll fix it later "approach
I thought that already moved to that model with Smash and Zelda.
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d9c09f No.16800598
>>16800590
Those aren't done by gamefreak.
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5ebb35 No.16800625
>>16800135
Easily Sonic Team. Sword/Shield is not a genuinely terrible game like most 3D Sonic games.
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d94d25 No.16800626
>>16800590
Those aren't Gamefreak games. Gamefreak's policy from gen 6 and 7 was; "only pay for a patch if there is something absolutely game breaking, otherwise no support post launch"
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a9b7e3 No.16800650
>>16799745
DP is mechanically perfect, I won't argue that, given BW added fucking nothing in that department and is a much better game despite that. However, the rest of the game gets in the way of that. We can argue about level design all day, but for my money I feel BW Unova has better exploration and more robust optional content. I feel Platinum is basically a patch job and doesn't have anything I consider worthwhile in a Pokemon game, at least that HGSS doesn't also have in a much better game. I feel like people only suck DPPt's dick because they got to play online for the first time.
>>16800135
Give the three level designers some slack, at least. Yes, only three. Sonic Forces should have never been put out in the state it was, Sega learned the wrong lesson from Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
>>16800555
>>16800546
Did you forget about Home, retards? What do you think Home was supposed to do? I say this like Game Freak won't somehow fuck up Home and not let you transfer Pokemon at all, somehow. Maybe not Home but it's successor. I can't even shit on you guys properly without having an existential crisis about what the fuck is Game Freak doing.
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21b2ee No.16801221
>>16800650
Yeah DP vs BW is definitely more opinion based on region, i won't disagree with that.
>Sega learned the wrong lesson from Sonic 3 and Knuckles
I don't think an ancient lesson is their issue, its their refusal to actually take the lesson that rushing out games tends to fuck them.
Though i guess thats what S3&K kinda was, though wasn't that mostly a space issue?
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491d6f No.16801247
>>16798930
OP updated, get ready to get disappointed
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491d6f No.16801249
Oh neat, a mystery dungeon remake.
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21b2ee No.16801251
>mystery dungeon
Well that was ironic timing considering cakekikes comment.
Looks decent enough i suppose.
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491d6f No.16801254
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21b2ee No.16801255
>/ss/ DLC
Oh hey they somehow managed to do something like that.
Not exactly a good thing but whatever.
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75f7d6 No.16801258
Buy those pokemon we cut you fucking goyim!
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21b2ee No.16801263
>slowpoke form
Wasn't slowpoke a cut mon? so that confirms it i guess.
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21b2ee No.16801265
>>16801263
>showing the regis off directly
Clearly gamefreak understands what the people want.
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21b2ee No.16801267
And there are the three dummy slots in the game revealed, not even movie events huh?
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89d279 No.16801268
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75f7d6 No.16801269
Am I supposed to have a reaction to some dopey looking cgi opening it's eyes and looking at me?
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58c6e6 No.16801270
>>16801254
I think we've gone full circle here. Not mirco shit, but back to expansion packs. Which were not hated back in the day and often rather good.
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1d1532 No.16801271
Wait, so this is Ultra Sword/Wultra Shield? I'm late, what did I miss? Did they fucking evolve to add pokemons AFTER RELEASE?
Jesus, man, I'm glad I dropped pokemon after Pokemon GO.
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75f7d6 No.16801272
Man, it's so fun to learn everything about the expansion pass, step by step, removing all hype and intrigue.
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21b2ee No.16801273
Oh good they didn't forget benisaur and toise.
Not that those forms will be good.
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d5a288 No.16801276
So I'm totally okay with this since these are being billed as expansion packs like the Splatoon 2 DLC was.
These better be at least ten hours long each or it's a ripoff.
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1d1532 No.16801278
>>16801270
I don't think it's a bad thing, I mean, it was VERY EVIDENT that Sword and Shield were not finished, so if they release this shit, I at least hope it won't be paid DLC but an actual free expansion because that's how the game was supposed to be in the first place.
Still a shit fucking game because no national dex, and that will never ever change unless they actually add the fucking national dex in.
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21b2ee No.16801279
>>16801276
Considering these are basically the third versions; they'll probably be actively better than the base.not much of an achievement but still
They sound decently long.
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1d1532 No.16801282
>They are actually adding old pokemons
HAHAHAHA
Well, that's good, now I can consider getting it, if they actually finish adding all old pokemons.
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bc0bbd No.16801283
>>16801272
>removing all hype and intrigue.
how is this a problem, you idiot?
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21b2ee No.16801284
>the natdex is basically free
Oh hey a sane choice, this can't be gamefreak.
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1d1532 No.16801286
>>16801283
It's bad for sales. You want to inform people, but you are basically revealing all secrets. You can say "There will be new legendary pokemons", but fucking revealing them takes all the mystery away from the legendary pokemon.
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75f7d6 No.16801287
>>16801283
Oh apologies, I forgot pokefags need to be spoonfed everything otherwise they get frustrated. :^)
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75f7d6 No.16801292
Fucking over mid-sentence. Wat.
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1d1532 No.16801293
>>16801287
Just torneyfags.
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627d94 No.16801294
>30$ for each DLC
Am I read that right?
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7bed84 No.16801296
Ok can we have a real direct now.
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75f7d6 No.16801297
>>16801293
The idea of playing a pokemon game competitively is very sad to me. These people need friends to play with.
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21b2ee No.16801298
Well that was better than expected honestly. A good game is getting remade and the natdex is getting patched in.
Gamefreak actually learned how to patch content in huh.expansions are much better than third versions, in pretty much every way outside of a small flaw
>>16801294
Without context of what these are we can't tell if thats sane or retarded. However these look to be the "third versions" so its better than just outright rebuying the whole game.
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b714fa No.16801299
>lando being added in paid dlc
Literally the one thing they did right in this shitshow and the fucked that up too.
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0af545 No.16801301
>>16801294
That mean you'd have to pay $120 for an almost finished game like pokemon. I wonder how fans are gonna defend this. Just when this games rep couldn't get any shittier now you'll have to pay for it to get even close to finished. It may as well have been outsourced by EA.
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d5a288 No.16801304
>>16801298
Game Freak didn't "learn" anything. This proves they were 100% lying the entire time to save content for DLC.
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653d0f No.16801305
>pokemon is dead with game sales being less and less for every new release
>the three best pokemon games ever made are dead at the bottom of sales
>the new games are total shit graphically and in gameplay, and the new monsters look retarded
How do pokefags cope?
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21b2ee No.16801306
>>16801304
I hope your crippling autism fades for a bit for you to get the actual context of my comment.
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ce8e87 No.16801307
They mention the controversy at all?
Don't get me wrong I don't honestly expect them to answer for the fact that they tried to pretend skeletally driven animations couldn't be ported or that the models were even new to begin with (when they were already recycling them for sunmoon and swordshield) I'm just curious, hell I'd even settle for them admitting a whoops in accidentally porting the performance clamping from sun and moon which caused frame drops all the fucking time
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1d1532 No.16801309
>>16801298
>expansions are much better than third versions, in pretty much every way outside of a small flaw
POKEMON Z NEVER EVER
>>16801294
>>16801301
Seeing the amount of content they supposedly plan to add to the game, the price is KINDA justified, it's better than charging you for micro transactions, but it's still a jew practice nonetheless.
>>16801304
Overlords probably rushed the game and they are just releasing this content now. What makes me mad is that if that's the case, the expansion should be free.
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b714fa No.16801310
>>16801307
Of course they didn't.
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75f7d6 No.16801312
>>16801307
No no, you're supposed to look at all the concept art they drew up and clap!
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1d1532 No.16801314
>>16801305
You have them sort by sales, idiot, not by year, and there you can see sun/moon sold alright, being a 2016 game.
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d333dc No.16801316
>Adding natdex back to distract from the 30$ dlc with all the missing content that should've been in the original game to beging with
>People ITT already defending this
Nigger
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1d1532 No.16801317
>>16801316
Nobody is defending it, fag.
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c62546 No.16801319
>>16801316
>People ITT already defending this
Nobody here is doing that shit you cock taster.
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75f7d6 No.16801320
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653d0f No.16801322
>>16801314
>You have them sort by sales, idiot
Yes
>sun/moon sold alright
yeah that's a shame considering it fucking sucks
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b714fa No.16801323
>>16801320
And this is nobody, so what he said stands.
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1d1532 No.16801324
>>16801320
It's the truth, though. You are releasing a botched game, selling it full price, and then asking for extra money for the full version of it.
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fdd536 No.16801327
>>16801310
>>16801312
Well that kinda sucks, even if they tried spinning removing the performance clamping as "an optimization update we were really working hard on!!" would have been nice.
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d333dc No.16801328
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044b3a No.16801329
>people will still defend Game Freak after this
The only thing that can be considered good about this direct was the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon remake, and saying that was anything more than "alright" is hyperbolic.
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75f7d6 No.16801330
>>16801324
Point was that there are going to be waves of retards who will try to call people manchildren for wanting a complete game.
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1d1532 No.16801332
>>16801328
Consider I did one of those posts when I was late for the direct, fag.
>>16801322
Yeah, it's fucking shit. What were they even trying to do?
>>16801330
Those will always exists, probably the same people that waste money on micro transactions.
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21b2ee No.16801333
>>16801328
Believe it or not, my statement wasn't meant to be taken that way.
More of a comment about the mystery dungeon thing in regards to it being decent.
And it is 100% true that expansions are better than reselling the game for a full experience instead. Its mildly less jewish.
Also the "free content from gamefreak doesn't sound like them" sure is good shilling for it.
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d333dc No.16801334
>>16801332
Consider the rest of them then.
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75f7d6 No.16801335
Is it just me or has every single nintendo IP put out lately been super linear and bare bones?
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491d6f No.16801337
>>16801335
Astral Chain is a good game
fuck you
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75f7d6 No.16801339
>>16801337
Oh pardon me, I forgot the one trick pony Platinum made something recently.
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1d1532 No.16801340
>>16801334
>Expansions are better than DLC
>These expansions would act as a third complete release
>National Dex is free
I don't see how any of these are defending the price of the expansion, but rather pointing out how an expansion is better than DLC sold for the same price or the fact that the national dex is being added. Even then, they are not defending gamefreak in any way, faggot.
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58c6e6 No.16801341
I like the idea that large expansion packs are making a comeback. Monster Hunter had a big one now pokemon is trying it out. Better that then pitiful dlc that Botw got. Xenobalde 2 had a large epac if I remember as well. Waiting to see how big the Fire emblem dlc is when it's fully released, maybe it'll be enough to be called an expansion too. Expansion packs bring me back to twenty years ago when games were in a better place.
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491d6f No.16801342
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83d796 No.16801343
so i take it this is the pokemon companies damage control? I might get the new Mystery Dungeon even though they'll probaby add Gen 4-8 mons
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1d1532 No.16801346
>>16801341
I think there is an actual problem with this anon. Sure, I'm happy with the content they will be adding with this expansions, but here is the thing:
Expansion packs used to be expansions to already completed game to actually expand the game itself. Thus, the game had to be completed in the first place in order to expand it.
In this case, it's more like they are finally adding the missing pieces of what the game was supposed to be originally plus adding some previous mistakes.
Sure, the "expansion" seems to be big, but this is far from being as good as the concept of old expansions and on top of that it sounds more like a glorified DLC. Also
>Liking NuMonster Hunter
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d333dc No.16801347
>>16801340
I madre a mistake in my wording, people are not defending gamefreak, people are justifying gamefreak shitty decisions.
Remember to buy two copies.
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c62546 No.16801350
>>16801340
Is not the National Dex, just 200+ old pokes, not everyone is back.
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7bed84 No.16801352
>>16801301
Well for starters it is $30 for both.
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72b7ab No.16801353
>>16801335
I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt on Breast of the Wild since it was ported really late to the switch, but, yeah the direction in their games has been really ass lately.
Really can't pardon game freak though, with all the new Pokémon games using models, SKELETALLY DRIVEN ANIMATIONS that literally are designed to be ported around similar models, AND THE SAME FUCKING GAME ENGINE, and them somehow putting in less effort than a game with sprites despite their job literally getting easier as more games are released. This more seems like a uniquely game freak issue.
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1d1532 No.16801354
>>16801347
See >>16801346
As I see it, people is ok because the game is finally being completed, which is what they actually wanted in the first place, but that's not justifying the fact that they released an incomplete game and then try to sell you the bits that are missing.
>>16801350
I don't see why they wouldn't add the whole dex back overtime, though. Specially if they recycle models, which nobody seems to give a shit about.
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c97ef9 No.16801355
>Remove common series features from game
>Add common series features back into game as DLC
Cancer as fuck but the DLC area does look fun, not playing it though
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21b2ee No.16801360
>>16801346
I actually remember heaps of expansions for games that were described as scrapped content. Its not a new thing to do this for games that had to rushed out.
Mind you the issue with /ss/ in regards to its DLC is its normal price really. The base game isn't worth it and the DLC sure as fuck isn't going to be worth more than $30 dollars even if its amazing.which is unlikely
>>16801350
They're probably keeping the rest for a second wave or something to that effect.
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5bf036 No.16801361
>incomplete video editing
>using left out pokemon as an incentive to pay for dlc
>pokemon exclusive to different versions of the expansions
>more gimmick shilling
>gimmick pokemon that would've looked fine standalone
>standalone pokemon that look bad even as a gimmick
>tumblr art characters
At least we're getting a remake of 15 year old games that includes both versions and looks decently competent for a new generation to enjoy. I won't buy it, but I think it's good for the people that missed out and won't be assed to emulate them.
I just want a good Pokémon, I couldn't care about another generation, I don't know why I still care, even something like Colosseum or XD would appreciated at this point.
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72b7ab No.16801366
>>16801361
>battle revolution will likely never be ported because genius sorority gave a shit while making a wii GAEM.
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d333dc No.16801371
>>16801354
I dont see it that way, we can agree to disagree.
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1d1532 No.16801374
>>16801360
Scrapped content from a complete game is one thing. Cut content from an incomplete game is different.
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58c6e6 No.16801375
>>16801346
Hope is a dangerous thing for an anon like me to have - but I have it.. Will watch and see what folks say about the first one in june.
>NuMonster Hunter
Everyone's a slave to something.
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bc0bbd No.16801385
>>16801361
>I just want a good Pokémon,
At this point, make it yourself, because the pokemon company certainly won't.
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5bf036 No.16801392
>>16801385
I have a lot of ideas, but programming isn't something I care to invest into. Maybe it'll happen if I have more motivation for it or have other reasons.
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c62546 No.16801393
I do like the new Zapdos bur the model in game will be shit as usual, maybe I'll pirate it.
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83d796 No.16801395
>>16801385
but wouldn't that just result in dmca takedown like Uranium?
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21b2ee No.16801396
>PMD remake removes the default attack seemingly
Thats pretty strange, can't really say if thats bad or good though.
>>16801393
Actually looking at that it does kinda look nice. i guess the weirdness of the articuno distracted me when looking at the birds.
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bc0bbd No.16801398
>>16801393
>from humming bird to ostrich
Is it still gonna be flying-type like dodrio?
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bc0bbd No.16801401
>>16801395
>dmca takedown like Uranium?
How hard did the Uranium devs whore for attention?
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3ca870 No.16801405
>>16801385
and pokemon fans won't either, there's next to no romhacks or fangames that aren't completely, hopelessly retarded. Sage will never be completed.
I've noticed a bunch of indie devs trying to get into the monster-centric RPG niche after pokemon's various fuck-ups, but none of those are looking too good either.
>>16801395
You can find Uranium pretty easily, I think the dev just used a questionably legitimate DMCA as an excuse to stop working on it. No clue if anyone else is trying to patch up some of the problems it had.
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16827e No.16801406
>>16801385
Oh there is other studio making it but its literal pokemon mmo tumblr-edition
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83d796 No.16801407
>>16801401
beats me, probably a lot since they managed to get a few rags reporting about it
>>16801405
why the hell would you DMCA your own project just to not work on it? that sounds retarded to me. Maybe the uranium dev is retarded
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58c6e6 No.16801408
>>16801405
There's the indie pokemon-like mmo coming out. Seems to be tranny shit on top of free to play mmo shit.
>>16801406
That's the one.
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691682 No.16801410
>>16801395
Just make an original monster or whatever collector DOG. It doesn't have to be Pokemon, just Pokemon-esque.
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3ca870 No.16801411
>>16801407
I'm not saying uranium dev dmca'd themself, but they just saw a DMCA and rather than looking into it or contesting it just decided to throw in the towel
>>16801406
Temtem is great because if someone mentions it you know they're not worth listening to at all.
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83d796 No.16801413
>>16801411
so like AM2R then.
>>16801410
so a monster collecting game then
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691682 No.16801417
>>16801413
>so a monster collecting game then
Yeah. I'm sure /v/ can make one cheaply on RPG maker.
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bc0bbd No.16801422
>>16801406
Yeah i watched streams of it recently.
>the NotPokemon don't walk up to the enemy for physical attacks
And of all the temtems i've seen so far, the bird in your pic and its evoline are the only ones that have designs i kinda like. And even then, the green mask looks to plant like for something that's not a NotGrass-type.
>>16801410
>It doesn't have to be Pokemon, just Pokemon-esque.
Why base it on Pokemon then instead of better monster collection games, if you're not even using the Pokemon themselves?
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691682 No.16801423
>>16801422
>Why base it on Pokemon then instead of better monster collection games
Like Dragon Quest Monsters?
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cfdf34 No.16801424
>Base game is 60$
>Missing over half the pokemon that the games had normally
>Patch them back in for 30$
>No ots an expansion not a DLC!
I cant believe you niggers right now
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21b2ee No.16801425
>>16801424
The pogayman patch itself is free, the thing that costs money is the extra islands and such.
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5a4441 No.16801431
>>16801425
Honestly should have made the island DLC free but locked down to each game version. It would still be kikery, but then at least I'd have the incentive to pick up both games rather than to pirate one and breeze through both packs. I mean, what would you do? Sell DLC for 30$, or give it for "free", and have new people buy your full game for 60$ and to have them enjoy the (((expansion))) next to people who already own the game.
It makes more sense in my opinion, and is a more ethical business practice, but they're blinded by (unreasonable) greed and have hordes of numale hyper-consumerist megafanboys ready to defend them and expend their time doing so, for free, to convince other people to think and conform just like them.
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21b2ee No.16801432
>>16801431
>instead of selling the DLC for $60 dollars they should sold it for $60
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5a4441 No.16801436
>>16801432
To be fair, the games are like 45$ now, and the doublepacks are around 80-100$. It supports the thought of "it should have been there in the first place" and is an excellent PR move, but as I also mentioned, it doesn't matter because fanboys will defend them regardless of wether they do good or not.
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21b2ee No.16801445
>>16801436
They're actually full price again from what i've seen of them. Though i am australian so i wouldn't call prices here standard.
Potentially massive free content updates would be nice but there's a reason why no major gameplay pieces are base version exclusive; the two base games are massively similar and a lot of people would avoid them just by virtue of not wanting to replay especially this close to release.
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691682 No.16801447
>>16801424
>>16801425
Imagine of Gold and Silver were made today and Kanto is sold as an expansion.
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653d0f No.16801449
>>16801447
Hey now don't give gamefreak any ideas.
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21b2ee No.16801455
Anyway on the remake again, there's this dungeon effect that sometimes crops up; its massively broken due to basically showering you in TMs and luxury stuff.
The game in general seems to start off pokemon stronger than the original move wise and hunger seems a lot more lethal than usual.
>>16801447
Watch Lets Goy Johto do that when it comes around.
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691682 No.16801457
>>16801449
It's funny how pokefags are sucking GakeFreak's dick for the same shit they would burn EA for.
I think Metroid fans are the only Nintendo fans that have any integrity.
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83d796 No.16801464
>>16801455
wouldn't it be something like Lets go Pichu or something?
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21b2ee No.16801467
>>16801464
Probably Marill and Wobb version or something.
Pichu is also a pretty huge candidate though.
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5a4441 No.16801476
>>16801445
>full price
That sucks ass, actually. I'd prefer 60$ over 90$ anyday regardless.
>the two base games are massively similar and a lot of people would avoid them just by virtue of not wanting to replay especially this close to release.
I agree, though judging by past "third version" games, it doesn't really seem to be much of a bother for people replaying the game for things like that.
To add a solution to mitigate that though, there should be a modification of the base game, to streamline it a bit, like the option to skip story text entirely instead of just cutscenes, kind of like an arcade mode, or trading early in the game, hell, even being able to access the postgame from the get go by importing the save data of any gen 8 pokemon game with a cleared file; I see save file swapping as something super handy.
I'd see some sort of in-game save state chapter esque transferring method as extremely useful for people who don't want to replay the game, added content/features or not.
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909081 No.16801493
>>16801335
Mario Odyssey
Luigi Mansion 3
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
splatoon 2
Although yea switch feels pretty bare bones half the time, these are the only games I'd consider complete that I actually enjoyed, BOTW was literally just a glorified tech demo and I dont understand why people think its amazing
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283b13 No.16801496
What does "Pokestans" means? it got thrown quite a lot between normalfag when discussing this game
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1d1532 No.16801497
>>16801493
What about Smash, Mario Kart, Mario Maker and even Mario + Rabbids? There's also Cadence of Hyrule.
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909081 No.16801500
>>16801496
isnt stan that thing twitter trannies call others? I think it came from one of those degenerate drag shows or something
>>16801497
Smash was good but the fighter packs are overpriced and kikey. Mario kart is literally the WiiU game. Mario Maker 2 was ok but nothing special and Rabbids was surprisingly good but forgettable. Im only really looking forward to this year for NMH3, Bayo3, Animal Crossing and any other surprises they might shit out last minute in a direct. Oh yeah also forgot the Fire Emblem game which is better than the last few waifu emblem trashpiles but still feels like it was rushed to be released, especially depending on which of the four paths you take
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c9b7e6 No.16801501
>>16801496
I don't know, maybe it's a term for the different pokemon regions? Like Kantostan, Sinnohstan, and so on?
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6f9a95 No.16801503
This is the way shit companies artificially keep their games at rather low cost while actually inflating them.
>base game is "only" 60 bucks
>but it's clearly incomplete
>want it complete ? pay twice the amount to get all the DLC
>despite the fact said DLC's content should be in the main game, and it's rather obvious things have been removed in order to put it into DLC
EA does it. Ubishit does it. Blizzard does it. Soyny does it. Nintendo does it too. And you should condemn it when you see it, even though I'm preaching to a converted choir.
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909081 No.16801506
>>16801503
>"even though I'm preaching to a converted choir."
Noone here is defending them being kikes faggot
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8e60a5 No.16801518
>>16801496
Stan is just another word for fanboy/fangirl.
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bc0bbd No.16801536
>>16801496
>stan
stalker (as in, obsessive) fan, i think.
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81682b No.16801542
>>16801496
if i recall stan is a term used by KPOP fags that came from an Eminem song about how obsessive fans get before killing themselves
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a588d2 No.16801566
>$120 for a game that has less content then the handhelds
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3c92e0 No.16801573
>>16801405
Why are the romhacks/fangames hopelessly retarded? What are they missing and what do they do wrong?
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1d1532 No.16801580
>>16801503
>even though I'm preaching to a converted choir
Not quite, anon. I HOPE that all anons here at least mention it whenever they have the chance.
>>16801573
Fucked up sense of escalation and edgy stories. Like sure, I get it, you are making a pokemon romhack that can be more mature, but then you have a lot of people dying for no reason other than "THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS". It's no different from those PETA pokemon games in a way. The design of pokemons in romhacks are very very nice, though.
I used to have more of those fan made designs, but I lost them, sadly.
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3ca870 No.16801582
>>16801573
There's very few that aren't retarded edgefests with poor balancing, and those that are passably written and decently balanced tend to fall short of being interesting. It's either a disaster from start to end or just mediocre with few if any exceptions because these are amateur projects by people who aren't skilled enough to make a game on their own.
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2903ca No.16801591
So…has everyone been keeping up with Pokemon Bank or am I the only one who lost 10+ years worth of Pokemon forever?
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4f89ac No.16801607
I expect nothing out of you people but I'm still disappointed. I hope Gen 9 makes you pay $120.
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57634e No.16801623
>>16801607
Here's a better idea. Base game is $60. Unlocking trading and battles with other players are an extra $10 to $15 each. All online battles and online trades have a, let's say, 25 cent fee, which you can pay for with passes that are $5 each. That earns you 20 battles or trades online. You're only allowed to use your starter pokemon at first, but you can buy licenses to be allowed to use other specific pokemon. Want the Pidgey line? That's $1. Want to evolve it? That's another $1, to unlock Pigeotto and Pidgeot. Want to be allowed to use something a bit rarer, like an Eevee, Pichu, or a different starter pokemon your friend traded to you? $5 licenses for each line's base form, plus an extra $3 to be allowed to evolve them. $10 for the Eevee evolutions, since there are so many. Don't worry though, the license to evolve the starter pokemon you picked is available at a special discount for a mere $1! That's 66% off! What a great deal, just look at the savings!
Finally managed to catch a legendary pokemon? Good job, big boy! If you want to use it. that'll only be a mere $15 dollars. But don't worry, if you purchased both versions of the game in the double pack, that price is lowered to a mere $10 each for the two legendary pokemon on each game's box art! Billed separately for each game, of course.
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28c33b No.16801628
why do the pokemon in the mystery dungeon remake all have leprosy
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1be381 No.16801630
>>16801503
Am I retarded? Why is everyone saying that it's $60 for the DLC? It's $30 for both pieces of the pass. It's $60 to get it twice if you have both Sw and Sh. The games are bad enough, you don't have to make shit up.
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1be381 No.16801636
>>16801628
>go to eShop to check the demo
>game is full price
Now that's fucking jewish.
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d2429c No.16801638
>>16801628
Looks like they're going for a "watercolor/coloring book" aesthetic for the game, and failing spectacularly.
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cddb9c No.16801639
>Regi that isn't weak to fighting
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57634e No.16801640
>>16801630
That was due to a misunderstanding. People thought it was $30 each for the two DLCs, when it's actually apparently $30 for the season pass that includes both.
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d2429c No.16801643
>>16801640
You're still paying a total of $90 ($60 for the game, $30 for the DLC) for less content than a $40 game.
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1be381 No.16801651
>>16801643
Not arguing with you there. Check the like ratio on these Directs, most people seem happy with this shit.
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6f9a95 No.16801658
>>16801630
$60 for the main game.
$30 for the pass that will add 200 old pokes and two islands
And then, probably $30 more for the rest of the old pokes
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57634e No.16801660
>>16801643
Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying it. I genuinely believe Sword and Shield aren't even worth pirating.
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1be381 No.16801671
>>16801658
I doubt it. It'll be time to release a new game by then, and they'll probably just make a new gen, make you buy it and let you transfer the Pokemon from that to SwSh. Or maybe they'll skip that last part and say fuck it.
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1974b3 No.16801672
Welp this series has gone downhill it's nothing but a corporative cow directed towards trannies and waifufags.
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1be381 No.16801673
>>16801672
>implying it was ever anything more than that
The moment Pokemon got any prominence, it was dead.
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8e60a5 No.16801674
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a2fa64 No.16801675
So basically:
>Rescue Team remake with shitty looking graphics
>Wild Area expansion packs for Galarian Legendaries, a couple (shitty) new pokemon, and new Regis
>Slowly trickling in the NatDex in to justify the purchases, as if that's a surprise
Disappointing, but not surprising. I know their importer fucked up, but I knew they'd jump on the opportunity to monetize access to the cut 400 or so.
>>16801628
>still no fucking personality quiz
Why do they hate it so much they got rid of it since Gates to Infinity?
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a9b7e3 No.16801678
I'm surprised honestly. Sword and Shield seem blatantly unfinished, but I was expecting them to finish it in a third version like they usually do. I have a feeling that this DLC did kinda kneecap the development of the proper games though, but that's Game Freak being retarded for you. I'm still half expecting them to release a version in 2021 or something that has all the DLC in it, and I'm expecting a second expansion pass for another 30 bucks that adds content. Those of you astute at math will realize this means that they might make you spend 60 bucks for probably slightly less content than the main game (given how barebones SS is it could be close though) which would honestly be a better deal than most third versions. The worst parts of USUM was everything it inherited from SM after all. I do like that they'll re-add some Pokemon for free, although I recall them saying they won't do that but whatever this is Game Freak, contradictory statements are normal. I guess I'm pleasantly surprised, although it's still not the best situation. Regardless I'm still pirating it all, but that's an upgrade from not being worth a pirate.
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1974b3 No.16801690
>>16801674
I'm not that anon but I'll probably say the series became shit around the time Pokemon X and Y came out.
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10d861 No.16801700
Honestly, I was expecting this to be a bigger shitshow than it actually was. PMD remakes are nice, barring the art style, which I'm not huge on. Sw/Sh expansion could be much worse. I'm not expecting much of it, but it seems like it's a "Buy used, get the expansion if it ever gets deep discounted" sort of situation, at best. It's very blatant that they're taking up the modern AAA model of "Sell incomplete game, sell complete version later" model. Real shame.
As an aside, from what I'm reading,
>The expansion pass will cover both "expansions", so the full tag would be $90, not $120.
>The expansions will re-implement 100 pokemon each, so even after both of them are done, there will a few hundred pokemon missing from the dex
As an aside, I wonder if they're bringing back any moves. Seems like Megas and Z-crystals are all but confirmed still cut.
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abdf72 No.16801701
I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't go with the star allies route and slowly add more and more content over a year or so.
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a31b78 No.16801702
>There are people here who will defend this
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1be381 No.16801705
>>16801674
That's when it stopped being a game and became a product, yes. Just consider the fact that Pokemon games can't get delayed because of the anime, movies and merch. Of course the devs are fucking retarded, that's undeniable based on all the poor coding that's been found in these games, but even if Gamefreak said "shit, we have made a colossal mistake, we need to fix this and appease the core fans!", they couldn't due to the nature of this series.
Animal Crossing? Big game, is gonna sell 15 million like the last two at least, and that got delayed from Holiday 2019 because they needed it. Pokemon? No, fuck you, because it's not a game and hasn't been since Gen 1 sold well.
>>16801701
That singlehandedly made Star Allies go from "okay" to "really good", too. The game could have been better, certainly, but it was a really nice thing. And Star Allies was far more finished than SwSh was.
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a9b7e3 No.16801722
>>16801705
After GS and especially after DP we won't see another delay ever again. DP also came out an unfinished mess that everyone but me loves apparently. Although I will say Platinum at least fixed some of DP's performance issues. If you're the kind of person that likes the Wild Area then I have a feeling the DLC is a better deal than Platinum was, but if you're like me and think the Wild Area is an awful idea in concept and haven't even played the game because of it, I don't feel like this DLC will sell you on it. I will say that if these DLCs actually were in development at some point during SS it would explain a lot more than just one single Wild Area. Also, these will probably give Game Freak some more practice with HD development that they clearly desperately need. The future isn't as dire as I thought it would be, but it's not getting any better either. As for comparisons to other DLCs from, let's say, other Nintendo franchises, it's definitely more substantial than most free updates aside from the last Star Allies update, Welcome Amiibo, and some Mario Maker updates, but so far looks less substantial than most paid DLCs aside from the first BotW DLC which I'm pretty sure was filler to buy them time to make the actual Champion's Ballad part.
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4c7daf No.16801728
>>16801702
>people
They're called Mark.
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fc1844 No.16801735
>>16801722
>DP came out as an unfinished mess
Literally, aside from the azure flute, wasn't everything in those games used?
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a588d2 No.16801741
>>16801628
Are you sure that's not supposed to be a statue? it looks like he's made of stone with painted on eyes.
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a9b7e3 No.16801745
>>16801735
So was everything in Sonic 06, wasn't it?
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fc1844 No.16801751
>>16801745
Go lick a socket you non sequitur using cum guzzling fag master. You know what I meant.
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fc1844 No.16801755
>>16801628
It's the shader effect to give it kind of a sketch appearance. It's not very good.
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a9b7e3 No.16801759
>>16801751
And you didn't know what I meant. There are many ways for a game to be unfinished. Polish and optimization are one of them. DP run like garbage, Platinum fixes that and even adds some graphical effects.
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d36b46 No.16801768
didn't diamond and pearl have no obtainable fire types (save for the starter) until platinum fixed it?
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a9b7e3 No.16801773
>>16801768
I feel that's just a bad balancing decision. Like making everything fucking poison in Gen 1.
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4c7daf No.16801774
>>16801768
It didn't have fire pokemon from gen 4, only past gens I think.
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a588d2 No.16801794
>>16801768
It had six, the three starters, Magmortar, Heatran and Fire Plate Arceus.
The problem was you couldn't catch Magmar or Magby in DP without a copy of leaf green in your old DS at the same time, Heatran couldn't be caught until the very end of the game and Arceus was never obtainable legit, and before someone brings up Heat Rotom nope in Gen 5 Rotom was always Ghost/Electric no matter what form he took this was changed in gen 6.
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a9b7e3 No.16801810
>>16801774
Even then it was only Ponyta/Rapidash right? Which makes it all the more weird they had a fire type E4 member, bit of a throwback to Gen 1 where the E4 members' type was more of a suggestion than a rule.
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73bb91 No.16801822
>>16801675
I'll never touch this shit but did Nintendo put mudshits in the great britain game?
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1be381 No.16801823
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000000 No.16801826
>>16801294
No I'm pretty sure it for both still bullshit though.
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a2fa64 No.16801843
>>16801822
There's certainly niggers if that's what you're asking.
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688689 No.16801845
>>16801843
I'd caulked.com the first negro.
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368ec3 No.16801895
>>16801675
The personality quiz is still there, you can just choose your mon afterwards.
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1db0ff No.16801914
>>16801335
>Super linear
I think that only applies to Pokemon Sword/Shield since Odyssey and BOTW makes a big deal about being a collectathon/open-world plus LM3 going back to LM1's style exploration.
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8cd62c No.16802005
>>16801843
makes more sense if you consider them pooinloo, still trash tho
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ef7140 No.16802137
>>16801496
Muslim Pokémon?
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5a4441 No.16802145
>>16801496
Stan means something you identify with, like "kin" for example.
"Mark is my stan because he's a fat kike, just like me". Think "stand-in"
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167df8 No.16802208
>>16802145
it's quite literally "stalker fan" like that Eminem song, remember these retards only speak in pop-culture references such as Harry Potter analogies.
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ef7140 No.16802252
Saw highlights of the direct. I honestly think more and more every day that Sword and Shield were suppose to be 3DS games before they were ported to Switch. On one hand the DLC is what the games should have been from the start if the games were built from scratch on Switch. On the other hand the announcement does feel like GF intentionally with held gameplay features and the Pokédex to sell it as DLC. Also this sets a precedent to lock post game behind paywalls.
>>16802208
Talk about literal human programming. No wonder we call these people NPCs. They can only communicate with mainstream media pop-culturs and nothing else. Try to get them to think an origional though and they crash.
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a9b7e3 No.16802278
>>16802252
If you actually knew what the engine was, you might change your tune. It isn't like every other Game Freak game, which has it's own engine. Instead, it's cobbled together from Nintendo's SDK (BotW, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe) and Lunchbox (Splatoon 2) with some of Game Freak's own code to fill in the gaps. Let's Go actually has a similar setup. What's really going on is, like much of Nintendo, they have no idea how to develop in HD. I mean they didn't have any idea how to develop in not HD either, actually. Did you know they had to make the Island Trials in Sun and Moon during the debugging phase?
http://archive.is/3zhwj
Clearly they've got some sort of problems, maybe Ohmori isn't the best choice for Pokemon, it seems like he doesn't want to be there and would rather make some waifu RPG like you'd find on the Vira or something. Before the DLC was announced, I thought they didn't have time to finish SS because the Wild Area was added to the game early enough in development to get it done but late enough that it might not have been in the original design document (BotW released slightly after SM came out, and about when SM came out would be when SS went into full production). Now with this DLC it's clear they were trying to finish SS but at some point said fuck it and came up with some completely different ideas to make into DLC instead. It would give them more development time to flesh out those ideas, but unfortunately it probably impacted the development of the actual games. That seems like a very Game Freak thing to do, they're not lazy, just bad at their jobs.
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a9b7e3 No.16802332
Also, while we're vaguely near the subject of the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, there's something important I was made aware of recently. Did you know: in Korea they released a demo of the first PMD games for Windows? It's actually apparently a port of the DS version, and could very well have the entire game in it given the file size is bigger than the DS game itself. However, the file seems to have been lost to time. If I had any reach I'd try to ask some Koreans if they had the file on an old PC or something. Here's what's probably the best resource for information on it.
https://mysterydungeon.gamepedia.com/Gold_Rescue_Team
I'm interested in it just to see what can be gleaned from it, or if it would be any use to anybody who's already working with the games, hacking or disassembly wise. Here's a disassembly of the GBA version.
https://github.com/pret/pmd-red
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a588d2 No.16802501
>>16801843
Nessa is Indian.
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ceef72 No.16802514
>>16802332
That certainly is pretty interesting. If it catches wind anons could be able to play OG mystery dungeon on PC free. And I fucking love OG mystery dungeon. I think you might have to start searching in Korean threads. They might now. Otherwise you might have to fish in threads from other forums for interest in hacking.
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1be790 No.16802524
>>16801506
Anon do you even know what preaching to the choir means?
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ef7140 No.16802544
>>16802278
>>16802332
Interesting. Strange that two libraries aren't enough for Pokémon. I still think the design concept of sword and shield was suppose to be designed for handheld play. It's the premire software for Switch Lite. Wild Area still looks tacked on at last minute. I don't doubt Game Freak's work ethic. They have a serious management problem top down with the Pokémon Company demanding yearly releases. HD development needs more time to build the capital software. There needs to be deticated studios that alternate between releases with morevthan 12 month development times. Otherwise Pokémon will never survive the upcoming 4k mobile phone era.
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938602 No.16802607
>>16802501
First person besides myself that ive seen come to that conclusion.
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b019fb No.16802632
>>16801843
Irony of this whole nessa controversy shows that these people that anyone with somewhat dark skin's a negro. Guess Indians, native Americans, and various middle eastern and South East Asian ethic groups are all the same in their eyes.
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5a4441 No.16802638
>>16802501
I honestly thought she was polynesian or something. I know leon and hop are some sort of moor/spaniard mutts, rose is definitely Indian though. I really don't know about raihan though, paki maybe? Maybe some sort of siberian, but the safest bet is pajeet.
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48cc99 No.16803017
>25 cent fee, which you can pay for with passes that are $5 each
funny that you mention it but I remember a yugioh online playing game came out from konami around year 2008 and they charged 10 cent per duel you play
and you could buy booster packs ingame to enhance your deck
the companies that do this crap deserve to be minced to hamburger meat alive but the fools who buy those products are the true culprits.
So what about this mokemon event
I felt like this will be Sun and Moon redux
>release new pokemon game
>oh shit guise we fucked up
>well, we release the patched version next year
>charge the full price again
When I got Moon I was shocked how shitty that game was.
I knew Shield will be crap when I heard the national dex was missing
I thought they would fix it in the inevitable new version
but now this looks different
so there will be no new release but they want you to buy a patch for said games so it becomes a finalized product?
And another question
yesterday I just finished hacking my 3DS on latest firmware
I wonder if there are hacks available for Switch lite
Never intended to get this switch crap but I would buy the switch lite if it could be CFW'd. I won't buy the new mokemon if I cannot transfer all my old pokemon from moon but I might get a hacked cia and play it
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48cc99 No.16803024
>>16801658
and 60$ again for the
>Pokemon Sword, definitive Edition
with all patches and updates included at the end of the product life cycle of the switch
godamnit game freak is fucking retarded
just give people a good pokemon game
good remakes are Alpha and Omega
Or HGSS
something like that
is it really so hard?
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ef7140 No.16803076
>>16803017
There's the paperclip hack for the launch model Switch. Not sure how far Switch Lite hacking has gotten.
>>16802607
Indian makes sense. After all the British Empire used to be in India. Now I want Nessa in an Indian belly dancer outfit.
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48cc99 No.16803151
>>16803076
end of january there was a youtube upload by some hacker crew and they shown a switch lite running homebrew stuff
it was taken down fairly quickly by jewtube but the crew claimed there is more to come and that the switch lite was indeed hackable
I just wonder if it will only be possible to run it with certain games or firmwares
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5a4441 No.16803212
>>16803024
ORAS was fucking dogshit.
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57634e No.16803262
>>16802632
Didn't the backlash over Archie (a white man) getting "whitewashed" in USM, when he was always white, already prove that?
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48cc99 No.16803266
>>16803212
Still better than sun moon and with more after story content
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ef7140 No.16803278
>>16803151
If the Switch Lite is hackable then it's virtually the same Tegra X1 chipset. Just a slightly modified version of the board to fit the Lite. Red box Switches also use similar revision for better power saving. Other than that hardware is still the Tegra X1. So chances are any home brew software currently running on launch models will also work on the Lite and red box models.
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1db0ff No.16803301
>>16803266
Said story content is similar to what Atlus is doing with a Mary Sue shoved in.
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ef7140 No.16803314
>>16803301
I'm reminded of the No Mary No Buy fag.
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5a4441 No.16803334
>>16803266
Just play emerald you fucking faggot. ORAS was a casual shitfest, I had to mod the fucking thing to have SOME enjoyment in it. At least sm had an actual difficulty curve, it was boring as shit rail adventure, I'll give it that, regardless, do not defend the 3DS games.
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66ecdf No.16803357
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30bf45 No.16803367
>more pokemon for me to play on my cockfighting simulaten
>watch paypigs pay for my entertainment
>watch boring rejects pretend the old games are fun to romhack or nuzlocke
>>16803334
>just play emerald
Why would anyone not just play PVP instead… or meme formats like Digimon.
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6a2e72 No.16803381
>>16803301
>Explorers of Sky gets the Radiant Historia/Strange Journey treatment
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1db0ff No.16803456
>>16803381
>New female Pokemon character somehow redeems Darkrai because reasons
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1bfe2a No.16804150
>>16801566 (dubs)
It's actually $30 for both but you're still paying $90 dollars for less content than the 3Ds handheld games.
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194582 No.16814799
>>16804150
If I cannot transfer my old pokemon (since gen 3, all hacked with perfect movesets, ivs and natures of course) I will not buy it
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72e147 No.16814917
>>16803262
After gen 3 is when I started noticing how nintendo started adding more shitskins. That's when they made an enemy out of me. Of course a trillion dollar + company is going to attract (((some people's))) attention eventually, as well as leftists who bitch about "lack of diversity". But they did more than bend the knee when they allowed that live action movie with a nigger as the main character to happen.
That begs a question: what if there was a game that didn't suck and never bent the knee and always had and kept it as a whites only game with apologies or explanation? Something fun and not political. Would a developer of such a thing have to worry about their safety for something like that now a days with the way things are going? Seems like the blue check marks are in a hair-trigger state right now where simply their existing a game that takes over the market that's fun BUT only has whites in it would be enough to light the boogaloo, if they started noticing and demanding and explanation but were then just told to straight fuck off. Personally I'd like to see remakes of every popular game but with whites only. More "Whites Only" mods would be hilarious and anyone who wanted to troll liberals, this would be an excellent avenue. If none of you faggots don't do it, I will in time.
I've been thinking about this for awhile and I'll post it in a new thread if I do, but if there was a site dedicated to hosting whites-only mods, I would be interested in the effects. Perhaps I'll start by removing Alyx and her dad and every brown npc from half-life. Then halo, pokemon, final fantasy, farcry, fallout, everything. 200% serious about this. I do it for the 1488 and for teh lulz. fallout already has islam mods, might as well have whites-only mods. Mainly made for people like me who have overwelming nigger-fatigue who can't even stand the sight of them anymore.
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7e3605 No.16815049
>>16814917
>implying blacks aren't a big part of the market for JRPGs and Pokemon
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45e9e4 No.16815054
>>16815049
Always amused me how niggers think they would be tolerated, much less loved, in an "anime" setting.
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925233 No.16815072
>>16815049
lol, and everyone including tyrone knows they're doing it for the shekels. So "muh market demographic economics" is the reason we have to niggerfiy everything? I don't think that was the point of that post moshe. Anyways, if you niggerfy everything what makes a jrpg any different than your typical "rpg". You know what makes them unique? The fact that JRPGs are expressions of Japanese culture, and consequently expressions of the east-asians on a biological/racial level. But no, let's just encourage the destruction of Japan into a multicultural shithole no different than any other, that'll be a bright future. Do you see how ridiculous this is? There's a reason Detroit isn't like Tokyo.
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a64676 No.16815099
>>16815049
Shop lifting games is not the same anon. JRPGs are better without black characters.
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89a994 No.16815262
>>16815049
Why did he put a febreeze in front of his games?
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a64676 No.16815264
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9df546 No.16815287
>>16815049
>sonyggers
The memes, Jack.
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1db0ff No.16815381
>>16815049
Is this Ruggarell?
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05b875 No.16815385
>>16815262
I was thinking the same. Your closet shouldn't stink.
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7e3605 No.16815395
>>16815262
Fresh experience every time you play. God anon you're so fucking retarded
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7e3605 No.16815489
>>16815262
Real answer, probably makes his nice shirts and jackets smell nice without needing cologne or any gay shit like that. Kinda smart IMO.
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aaee55 No.16816862
>have shit Internet
>wait for the physical version of ultra sw/sh
>it finally arrives after waiting for the physical version
>it has a dlc voucher in it
I hate this timeline.
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a9b7e3 No.16816906
>>16816862
That would truly be the worst of both worlds. People who care about preservation like me would be pissed because the DLC would not be preserved (although it's likely it would at least have all the Pokemon in the data due to being printed with a game version that has all them). It would be awful for people who paid 120 bucks for a whole Pokemon game (again, they're going to put out a second wave of DLC) because they could have waited for the third version despite that not being a guarantee these days.
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e7d2da No.16822288
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05b875 No.16822308
>>16822288
I was prepared for them doing something stupid yet I'm still mad.
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6ac02f No.16822326
>>16822288
Holy shit, this is some launch ps3 hubris. I hope this shit blows up in their face. I know it won't, nintendo could spit on their fan's face and they would just try to get Shiggy to sign it.
I guess the days of buying the next generation of pokemon games knowing the previous gen can be moved using said game is officially dead.
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89a994 No.16822332
>>16822288
Reminder that 6,000 pokemon is only around 1.5MB. Email services offer 100x more storage space than this, and for free.
But if I'm understanding this correctly, at least it seems like Pokemon Home does actually you some functionality free?
Pokemon Bank did not have any free functionality if I recall correctly.
So you'd be able to easily transfer pokemon from SS to the next one.
You can't transfer over pokemon from the 3DS games without paying for Pokemon Bank though, which is bullshit.
AND the free version of Home can't transfer from Bank, so that's TWO different subscriptions you have to pay for.
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89a994 No.16822334
>>16822332
*actually give you some
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1ebc24 No.16822341
>>16815049
I do have a nog friend who is a complete normalfag outside the fact that he consumes anime like cocaine.
>>16815054
>a country that loves Brazil, jazz, has a whole subculture involving the browning of skin, and a porn industry that celebrates having dark-skinned males fucking their women doesn't tolerate niggers
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3a6cc8 No.16822347
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153400 No.16822354
>>16822341
In Brazil (and South America in general) people with fairer skin are considered better.
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6ac02f No.16822407
>>16822347
>mystery gift pay wall
Holy shit, this is some next level kike bullshit. So at this point games are nothing more than finding a ratio of poz and yiddish fees you find tolerable. Just burn it all down, enthusiasts will find a way and if not then there is the back log.
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a9b7e3 No.16822538
>>16822347
>>16822288
The GTS is free at the absolute least, but that raises questions as to why it's not in the base game in the first place. As somebody who doesn't have a smart phone, I'd be locked out of Mystery Gift, but I'm a pirate so none of this shit matters to me. What a fucking mess though.
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a9b7e3 No.16822544
Also according to this, you don't need to pay the Nintendo Switch Online fee to use the Switch version of Home. Which again, raises even more questions that I'm not sure I want the answer to.
https://www.pokemon-support.com/pokemonhome/s/answers/000002105
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bcaa12 No.16822583
>>16822347
>>16822288
>Sword or Shield: $59.99
>Sword/Shield's expansion pass made from content cut from the base game: $29.99
>Switch Online membership required for trading, raid battles and regular battling: $19.99
>Pokemon Home Premium required for transferring pokemon from older titles, having access to proper storage, a functioning GTS and Mystery Gift events: $15.99
>Pokemon Bank required to transfer pokemon from the 3DS era (and GBA and DS era via the poke transfer): $4.99
So you have to pay $130.95 (tax not included) to get a complete Pokemon experience now
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a9b7e3 No.16822592
>>16822583
Again, GTS as it was is free, but new better GTS is locked behind a paywall, and the GTS is still locked behind some retarded app when it shouldn't be. I'm also convinced the only content cut from the base game they're selling back to you are the "minor league" gym leaders.
https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1208996617191383041?s=21
They probably wanted to make them more memorable than the Karate King from Gen 1. The DLC did likely take away some staff and resources from the game, but I doubt it took away that much that was planned for the game, if anything. You're also forgetting the fact that they implied there's going to be another set of DLC coming out, meaning another 30 bucks for even more content that will probably be less than B2W2 anyway. Last time you had to pay over 160 bucks for an entire generation of Pokemon games (and Box if you really wanted that in Gen 3) you at least got four whole games out of it (RIP Genius Sonority).
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14c4fa No.16822602
>>16822592
Nothing about the pass description implies the usual extra jewishness of "DLC seasons".
The mere fact that the pass exists kinda implies there will be more though.and that it'll probably gain an extra 30 for each one past the second
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491d6f No.16822635
>>16822288
You don't own nothing goyim
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1bfe2a No.16822654
>>16822347
>>16822288 (dubs)
It's just a cascade of fuck ups every time something pokemon related keeps happening this year. This franchise is gonna wind up like star wars at this rate.
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743743 No.16822805
god im glad i got out of pokemon when i did
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3ea535 No.16822825
>>16822805
It's in part to the trends Pokemon's seen over the last few generations that I'm almost glad I didn't have a 3DS until recently. Pokemon used to be a more mainstay for me (one of the few games/series I actually had when I younger), but being locked out does a fair bit to break addiction.
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a9b7e3 No.16822831
>>16822825
>>16822805
I'm going to pirate it eventually because I'm in too deep. I'm sure as fuck not paying for it, but the fact that I'm going to play it anyway probably says more about me.
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3ea535 No.16822837
>>16815381
I don't see any atelier, so probably not (unless he was using a series he hadn't played/hated to shitpost with).
>>16822831
But why? Do you feel a need to waste time on what you know to be trash just to more accurately call it trash or something?
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a9b7e3 No.16822842
>>16822837
Well, I've already caught all the existing Pokemon, I'll probably catch the new ones and fill out some ribbons on my Claydol and be done with it. At worst it will be average and as completely not difficult as every other game, although the Wild Area thing pisses me off in concept. It might have a few good ideas, who knows. USUM had several good ideas, shame about the rest of the game. I've got my own Pokemon related projects I'll need to figure out eventually, I've got time before Game Freak leaks a different final form of a grass starter.
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50d460 No.16822894
>>16800135
Forces was bad because they didn't know what they were doing and all of their employees get poached by nintendo. Sword and Shield are garbage because nobody cares.
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a9b7e3 No.16822926
>>16800135
>>16822894
I guess it depends. Sonic Forces 3 (yes, still three) level designers were either new or worked on Lost World, and they fucked up because of it. I dunno who was in control of the physics but since it was based off of Lost World's engine there's some fuckery expected.
https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Forces/Production_credits
On the other hand the 7 people credited with anything related to battles seem to have mostly done their job aside from cutting some moves that were hard to program and not balancing Dynamax for competitive singles (or at all seriously why does it stop Choice items why does it allow items at all what the shit). Say what you will about Pokemon, but I think Morimoto learned all the right lessons from Gen 1. That is, take some risks, but also keep better track of what the fuck you're actually coding. This is opposed to Masuda who learned "Satoshi can't finish a game in less than 5 years, I'm the only one who knows what computers are because I have a degree, I need to take over just to get shit finished". But anyway, check out the staff here too, see what the fuck they have going on.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Staff_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sword_and_Shield
I'm still convinced the game needed another year or so in the oven, but I also think that most of the stuff in the DLC wouldn't have made it into the game anyway, because this is Game Freak we're talking about.
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d3b37b No.16825705
>>16799109
Bea is better in every way.
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dd4ae1 No.16825716
>>16825705
Where's her cock?
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d3b37b No.16825745
>>16825716
Up your own arse in hell.
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