fd8a82 No.16797319[Last 50 Posts]
Mine is moth from Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne remember playing the game hard mode and I had to fight him like 6 times until he forgot to spam beast eye.
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fd8a82 No.16797321
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04da30 No.16797340
>>16797319
killed him first try, but only thanks to a pretty cheesy tactic
drained all his mana with Daisoujou, took a good 15min, then watch him wiggle as he literally can't do anything anymore and slowly chip away his health for another 10min
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9eb6f6 No.16797420
>>16797319
Never blame the boss always blame yourself,boss is meant to push your limits,its a symbol of natural selection in games if you prefer
never forget,improve,adapt,learn,and destroy or die
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52688a No.16797432
I love this game but I'm shit after a couple dozen hours and will likely remain shit forever
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727ecb No.16797449
>>16797319
Rodin in bayo 2
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727ecb No.16797452
>>16797449
I potatoed hard enough to not only get the number wrong but post instead of deleting the number
*bayo 1.
That fucker cannot be beaten witout cheesy tactics, even the most skilled clears I've seen abuse the PB artefact.
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116289 No.16797453
psssst hey kid, would you like a turn?
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f304b5 No.16797454
The final boss from Furi. Great game up until they put that last SHMUP boss at an odd camera angle. Threw off all my dodges to the point I said fuck it and decided I was done.
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4e5ecb No.16797461
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>>16797420
Normally that'd be the case, but Mot's bullshit is kinda legendary. He only has like one real attack, but one of his moves is the ability to give himself extra turns at will which he can (and will) spam, and that aforementioned attack is Almighty element, which means nothing resists it and it bypasses the Reflect equivalent. In other words, when Mot gets his turn, you have to sit there and pray to RNG God that his AI doesn't use Beast Eye more than once or you'll have to sit there for several minutes while he buffs himself to full and nukes your party to death.
He's not the only boss with this skill, but Mot is the only one whose skill list is so small his AI is likely to spam it over and over. Look at embed related.
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05592a No.16797483
Monster Hunter World Behemoth.
That bitch just broke all laws of the MH universe.
That skill that lets you dodge any other move in the game? Doesn't work on his meteor.
That food skill that prevents your death once? Doesn't work on his meteor.
Aoe dmg that 1hits you no matter how much health or def you have? yo get fucked.
Aoe dmg that 1hits you everywhere on the map (save for the camp) Why not?
Fight designed in a way that you need to have a group to kill him unlike any other monster in the game, while gimping the online so hard that it's literally impossible to reliably find good team mates without waiting for hours.
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08eb4b No.16797509
Linus from Legend of Dragoon. That bitch spams extra turns for herself and with bad RNG will smoke your whole party in a single turn.
Since then, there have been a lot of bosses I thought were total bullshit, but then I got gud.
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fd8a82 No.16797525
>>16797420
I know that, but mot is literally bullshit he will spam beast eye which gives him extra turns which prevents you from ever attacking him as he Hiroshima the fuck out of your entire team spamming megidola. It will take more than 5 minutes to beat him and the best way to defeat mot is using a cheesy strategy to make him forget that he has beast eye. Never have I hated a boss so much in an jrpg when I was in high school.
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11128e No.16797618
>>16797420
Words to live by.
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5f9669 No.16797627
He's nothing particularly special, his thing is making itself immune to weaknesses every few turns.
The problem is the fucker is the third in a gauntlet of 3 difficult bosses with no pause to recover inbetween. Up to this point the game has set you up to big fights against big guys which can be mostly cleared without many losses by exploiting weaknesses. Swapping strategies twice means if you don't have a deep demon bench and resources you're fucked. Also, if you hit this guy's weakness while it's immune, which you are bound to do if you didn't read the prompt from fatigue, gg.
>>16797340
>a SMT boss that doesn't have unlimited mana
that's a new one
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23c558 No.16797634
>>16797627
>that's a new one
>Imp fucking lying
In Nocturne you can drain the mana of all fiends except Trumpeter and they'll keep wasting their turns trying to cast magic. It looks like you're just jaded by the shitty IV games.
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45797e No.16797637
>>16797420
For a well designed boss, this is true.
For a poorly designed one, this is less so.
Some drag out a fight for ages, like the shadowasshole at the end of NWN2, who can take 45 minutes or more to beat. I seem to recall the final boss in Severance: Blade of Darkness took even longer, but its been nearly 20 years since I played that.
I'm sure everyone here can also think of particularly obnoxious mechanics from the worst bosses, like undodgeable one shot kill attacks, stunlocking or knocking you off cliffs to your death and so on.
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6c1448 No.16797639
The last boss from Thousand Arms. He didn't have a lot of damage in his arsenal so you weren't at risk of dying, but one of his moves was a self-heal that exceeded your maximum damage output for a given round. So the fight was basically rolling dice until they all went your way long enough to knock his HP all the way down. It took me an hour and a half, 20 years later and I'm still salty about it.
Fun game otherwise, though.
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0b0d00 No.16797640
Basically any boss in any RPGMaker type of game ever.
Either the bosses are mind numbingly easy to deal with or they so hard it is impossible.
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786688 No.16797644
I was really enjoying the game until the last 3 hours trying to beat him, that was the most annoying boss i've fought in years he did nothing wrong though
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7d9294 No.16797650
>>16797420
>imagine, there are people who play video games for the masochistic punishment of having their prostates flattened by big bosses
I play video games for enjoyment, plebs.
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eab08f No.16797657
Shoji (Top) and Insomnia (bottom) from 7th dragon 2020 II. The former while his defense isn't very high he always moves first and hits like all hell. If you're unlucky he could take out 1-3 of your party members and if you are most of their health which is more than enough to kill you in the next turn. Insomnia has likes spamming an instant kill move that isn't damage based, a rarely used status condition in the game. The game expects you to protect yourself considering how much enemies love using status ailments moves but instakill is rare. Most causes of instant death are from high damage attacks that prompt warns you to take caution against.
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7a6b76 No.16797764
Introducing Gedna Relvel. Due to a scripting error, her health will be increased by 800x your character's level rather than the intended 100x. Her being late-game content from Tribunal means your character will be at least around Level 30, so that's a sensible 24,000 additional hitpoints for her. For reference, motherfucking Vivec himself has 3000. Almalexia, the end boss of Tribunal, has 7000.
Of course, that wouldn't be enough bullshit, so the first thing Gedna will do is tocast a spell which makes her completely immune to magic unless you abused Morrowind's broken alchemy system and made a potion that at least somewhat reliably reflects her standard attack spell back on her. Said spell deals between 300-600 base damage, and it will take minutes until she runs out of magicka. And once she does that? Then the Lich will punch you to death with her bare fucking fists; first burning through your fatigue with two or three strikes and then performing a late-term abortion on your character as it lies down in fetal position.
I eventually managed to get her with a monk-style character by punching her lights out first, but given that Unarmed combat does absolutely abysmal damage in all but the early stages of the game, but still need to knock her out, whack her with a (hopefully Daedric) weapon, knock her out again, hurt her and some - and that all for some meager ten minutes, all while frantically chugging restore fatigue and restore health potions.
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f846c4 No.16797777
>>16797764
When I got to her I believe she used the robes effect a ton or something cause I killed her without too much issue just smacking her with skullcrusher after downing a ton of sujamma and healing like a mad man. Bit of a disappointment at the time but I guess it's better than what she was actually like.
She must've used the effect a huge amount of times or something, I really can't remember. I used openmw but I don't think they fixed her.
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7a6b76 No.16797805
>>16797777
Pretty sure they fixed her. The Drain Health effect of her robes only lasts for one second only lasts for one second before she gets said health back, and unless you drank enough Sujamma to give 1000-something Strength, killing her should still take a while. At least it did when I alternated between keeping her down and stabbing her to death with the Spear of Bitter Mercy.
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f304b5 No.16797814
>>16797618
>implying game designers know what they are doing half the time
maybe if you have nigger IQ
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b05a2c No.16797828
This disgusting piece of shit, this stupid-ass cheap faggot right here sucked the extremely little enjoyment I got from playing the DLC and that's talking just about Shulva because the rest is just as garbage if not more than the rest of the game:
>inconsistent attack patterns
>inconsistent hitboxes
>artificially inflated attack damage (combining physical with fire and dark)
>free healing because LE 2HARD = GUD XDDDDD
>extreme health values because of course
It's like the devs knew that all the previous bosses were braindead, anticlimactic morons but rather than design a proper boss they just went the "make everything hard" mentality that permeated the rest of the game. I was lucky enough to approach this area with the needed objects to kill the healing statues, but I feel for all those poor souls who had to left one standing because of this level's poor design. What shocks me the most is the amount of praise this god damned retard gets along with the faggots that compare this to Artorias, they're probably the sort of smoothbrain dickheads who have trouble fighting the equally mentally disabled dragon on Aldia's Keep. Fuck EVERYTHING about Faggot Knight.
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8925ea No.16797905
>>16797461
the best defense against him is fog breath or any other skill that increases/reduces agility. With a few buffs/debuffs he is bound to miss with his megido attack. Coupling this with one or two characters with an electricity attack (which he is weak to), makes him not as hard as many people claim.
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5831b0 No.16797932
>>16797828
He's not even as close as bullshit as the blue smelter demon that was under in the keep.
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b05a2c No.16797944
>>16797932
I tried running through that part of the game but just couldn't, it was downright exhausting due to the INSANE enemy spam in the area, it's almost a parody of what the game is about only the devs think that this is good game design and a proper challenge, and honestly by that point I was pretty damn tired of the game after fighting Faggot Knight and Sir Hitboxes so after dying a couple of times on Iron Passage attempting to get to blue smelter just to satisfy my morbid curiosity I dropped that shit and went straight to the rest of my 100% run. Thankfully you never have to visit the DLC more than once because fuck everything about brume tower.
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08eb4b No.16797986
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ef246d No.16798037
>>16797483
>I ate shit and it tasted like shit
Wow what a shock. Did you actually expect anything good from that fucking abortion of a game?
>>16797932
>>16797944
The amazing thing is people praise the DS2 dlc and even claim it's the best content in the series. Stuff like the Blue Smelter area and snowy horse fuck valley make even the main game look like a masterpiece, it really is like they tried to make things are terrible as possible just to see if people would still defend it.
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5f8efb No.16798137
>>16797319
use buffs retard
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6ca33e No.16798205
>>16798137
Can't buff if you don't get a turn, retard.
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bedb5c No.16798224
>>16798205
>not attacking unless the boss gives you permission
Are you a kid?
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68271f No.16798253
>>16798037
>The amazing thing is people praise the DS2 dlc and even claim it's the best content in the series
The same people praise DS3 as if its a good game. Soulsfaggots don't know shit about quality as long as they can spam R1 and win.
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6c8019 No.16798397
>>16797644
I had a ton of trouble with Solidus too, until I figured out how to get around him.
The trick with his tentacle projectiles isn't to dodge off to the sides, which ends up wasting time and allowing him to recover after firing them. It's a little risky and takes practice, but you can cartwheel directly between the projectiles while he is firing them and slash him up without getting damaged after doing so.
His first form is easily the worst, but 100% of his second form's (post-tentacles) attacks can be guarded. The most important part of his second form is NOT MOVING. At all. If you move around while he's dashing, you're more likely than not going to run into the fiery trails that he leaves.
Just stand wherever you are and wait for him to dash three times. If he rushes at you with his shoulder, that's the only time he will hit you during that particular attack, and you can let down your guard and slash at him right thereafter. If he rushes at you and brandishes his sword, he's going to strike at you three times consecutively, each of those hits being guard-able as well. The other most important part of his second form is simply orienting yourself toward his general direction whenever he rushes at you so that you can successfully guard his attacks.
This is just in case you ever replay MGS2. With those tips in mind I didn't have much trouble on my Extreme playthrough of the Plant, as every boss except for Fatman is cheese-able in the HD version of the game.
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6ce0a7 No.16798413
>>16797650
>imagine
>he plays on easy mode
>uses redditfag words
>plebs
>not fags
>but plebs
reddit..what are you going here ?
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08eb4b No.16798608
>>16797454
>>16797986
Part of the reason the last (true) boss fucks with your dodges is that many of the attacks are intentionally wider than usual, requiring you to charge your dodge/dash for a moment before using it. It's doable with regular dashes, but requires perfect timing.
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786688 No.16798769
>>16798397
Not gonna replay it anytime soon.
I didn't mention this but i was playing on an emulator with kb&m, not that bad really but i couldn't get the sword to work .At the end i cheesed him by hanging from the edge every time he attacked, then got up and threw some punches, once i was about to finish him hours in but i pressed let go instead of get up and fell to my death.
More than the boss itself my problem is with the camera changing axis constantly, that shit infuriated me to no end.
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000000 No.16798791
>>16797828
>inconsistent attack patterns
Nigger it's literally one of the easiest bosses to manipulate, for example it always tries to punish estus chugs with the same move: you can keep him stuck in the first phase by abusing that.
The DLCs are shit because the enemies have bullshit elemental resist that punish any playstyle that's not sword and board.
>>16798037
You need to understand that 99% of the souls community rates the games based on how easy it is for them to hack in endgame gear and gank new players, 2's DLCs got praise only because the agape ring let turboautists gank forever in the same bracket instead of moving to a higher matchmaking tier after dozens of successful invasions.
See also the absolute shitfest reddit and half channel threw when From started softbanning people for the most blatant matchmaking hacks.
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6ca33e No.16799749
>>16798224
> Thinks he can break the rules of a game just cause he want to
Doth thou commit 50% of crimes, faggot?
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ffcce0 No.16799804
You guys are too casul, goddammit.
>>16797828
>use a high-stability shield and get close to him
>oh wow, easiest boss ever
This boss, like most in DS2, is only difficult to cowards, he misses most hits when you get real close and start circling and dodging. Just don't be a pussy running away to use Estus from afar after every hit.
And the fucking ash statues are present since the very beginning until the very end of the DLC, if you are too big brain to not grasp what they do until this point, I feel sorry for you.
>>16797944
>I tried running through that part of the game but just couldn't
The worst thing in action games(DS included) is that they allow this retarded strategy of running like crazy through enemies all over the map without punishment. It's cheap, it's dumb and it's gamebreaking. Adding a single part where this is not possible is not a bad thing.
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697cd9 No.16799807
>>16798413
>plebs comes from reddit
Damn, maybe you should go back to 4channel.
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11128e No.16799818
>>16797650
>Thinking tapping X until you win is enjoyable
lmao
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11128e No.16799820
>>16799807
>4channel
What the fuck?
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23f23d No.16799821
>>16799804
>Use the rods on every statue I come across
>Run out before getting to Fume Knight
>Reach him and get wrecked a lot
>Eventually kite him to the one small bit of the arena where there isn't a statue and fight him there
>Beat him eventually
>Later learned I missed an area and thus more rods which would have made the fight easier
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0c8b97 No.16799831
I hate non humanoid bosses and I hate bosses with minions
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602b63 No.16799835
>>16799820
>not knowing what the chance in 4chan, 8chan, etc. is short for
alternatively:
>not having heard about that dumbfuck nip who now owns 4chan having split the site between two domains
4channel.org is now a thing
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4e2ff9 No.16799836
>>16799831
>I hate non humanoid bosses
What is wrong with you?
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602b63 No.16799838
>>16799835
>chance
*chan
I must be tired
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8a10f7 No.16799839
>>16799820
Do you need me to translate that into blubbering memespeak, son? Maybe help you with your oopsie poopsies, too, while I'm here?
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c25a39 No.16799866
>>16799831
>has a sentient vagina with six eyes and a large set of teeth
I think I want to play this game
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177c90 No.16799906
>>16799831
This boss is only really bad on Nightmare without New Game+. Lots of grinding for shards in order to kill her within a reasonable amount of time, and like every boss up until Bloodless, getting hit by anything will kill you in 1-2 hits.
The minions in that fight are absolutely necessary for surviving it on Nightmare, by the way: They serve as shields against what's otherwise a full screen attack.
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8925ea No.16799999
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bb823e No.16800002
>>16799999
It has David Hayter in it
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b05a2c No.16800045
>>16799804
Of course I knew about the statues, I stated that the way I traversed through brume tower allowed me to destroy the 4 healing ones on his arena, but most often than not people would be leaving one standing there since Fume Knight holds the last of the rods. My complaint was that giving free healing on this boss because you don't know beforehand how many rods will be available to you is just bullshit, not the existence of the ash statues themselves. Good on you that circling around him worked, that was not my experience, especially since his dumbass hitboxes are all over the god damn place: sometimes his blade cleaves through me and nothing happens while others he blatantly whiffs and yet I get hit for massive stagger and damage which made the fight frustratingly confusing.
>Adding a single part where this is not possible is not a bad thing.
And spamming the fucking thing full of hoards of enemies in tight corridors with multiple clerics/sorcerers as heavy ranged backup along with heavy enemies at the fog gate is somehow better? I tried running through and also cautiously fighting my way in, that shit was just atrocious to go through, and while I also agree that designing better encounters makes for a more engaging game, bullshit artificial difficulty spikes sure as hell aren't a solution.
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9eb6f6 No.16800564
>>16799807
>he uses 4chan
>pleb was a 4chan word
regardless cuckchan has become a reddit 2.0 anyways long time ago
>he cant play games that challenges him
and you retards wonder why we think you cuckchanners and redditfags are the sameshit at the end
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23fa62 No.16800833
>>16797637
Wasn't there a Final Fantasy game with a boss that takes like four hours to beat? With the record time being like 20-30 minutes? If I also remember right it wasn't even a hard fight just long, tedious and boring.
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c10bef No.16800838
>>16800833
You might be thinking of Absolute Virtue from the MMO FF11. Apparently the devs were having a giggle trying to make a boss that absolutely no one could beat, deliberately patching out exploits and tactics found to kill it.
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23fa62 No.16800844
>>16797828
Yeah fuck Fume Knight, his lore makes him sound like a bitch, he fights like a bitch, and he literally throws a bitchfit if you wear whats-his-face's helmet, which is actually a cool detail and IMO makes the fight easier because he's not using that stupidly fast sword on his offhand.
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0d1731 No.16801072
>>16800833
>>16800838
he might be thinking of Yiazmat from FF12.
the thing with yiazmat is that it was supposed to be the ultimate test of the players ability to use the gambits, if you knew what you were doing, you were technically capable of making the battle fight itself from start to finish. even if this process took 10 hours because the boss was purposefully given 50 million HP in a game where the damage cap was 9999 but they cucked out in the International Zodiac release and uncapped the damage to 99,999, making the fight significantly shorter
Absolute Virtue i have never fought myself, but i know from a good source that the idea wasn't to make an impossible boss, it wasn't poorly designed either, its just really really hard. i know only the surface of that story of the guys who fought it for 25 hours but from what i was told, they were using the wrong strategy. hence the length of the fight.
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1212cd No.16801075
>>16799831
I see that the nude mod is installed. Good shit
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b04f51 No.16801220
>>16800838
Not exactly. SE posted a vid of Absolute Virtue back then, but there was a cut in their clip because all the sheer length it took to get set up.
>Later, at the Premier Site Summit 2008 held in July 2008, Sage Sundi revealed that it took about 18 hours for the development staff to defeat Absolute Virtue . * 3. It was convinced that the same PC was able to use SP Avi many times in the capture movie and the reason that the development side claimed that the original work was disturbed by the video production, but 18 hours of continuous play It was too unrealistic to say that it was forced, and the pros and cons were divided.
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b172fb No.16801253
>>16797420
>>16797814
I've got no qualms against bosses. I've got no qualms against hard bosses that punish you for any mistake you make. This is why I learned to love Monster Hunter.
BUT THIS FUCKER
>All monsters follow the creed of monster hunting
>except this bastard child of rathian and kut ku
>broken animations from ps2 Monster Hunter still aren't fixed generations later
>has a fair amount of attacks with tells and warmup
>but also has numerous attacks that don't
>0 to 60 run attack has no warning and also has an active hitbox BEFORE he starts moving
I honestly have more enjoyment fighting the weird variants of this fucker since those have more modern programming put into them that force him to have proper tells when he goes for a specific attack. So yeah, I'm all for a boss that requires you to be on your A game, but if the boss is only hard because the programmers are lazy sacks of shit, then I get pissed.
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39f040 No.16801326
>>16797420
>>16797618
>implying there aren't objectively shit bosses in even badly made games
>implying "natural selection" occurs from sitting on your ass and getting frustrated from playing with electronic toys
Why does this post read like some q boomer nigger who just got done reading /pnd/ and now is posting on /v/?
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b2e9cf No.16801357
This is the only boss I had trouble with in DS2, fucker's hitboxes are bullshit
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f269e6 No.16801792
>>16801326
>cant git gud
you failed natural selection and now complaining about it on /v/
like he said ,improve,adapt,learn,and destroy or die YOU DİED
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aaaf4a No.16801839
>>16797420
>Look, Mom! I'm pushing the players limits!
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ef246d No.16801918
>>16801253
There's no way they didn't intentionally make Garuga as fucked up as possible just to piss everyone off. He's so batshit crazy it has to be maliciously done.
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b05a2c No.16801922
>>16801839
C'mon anon this is the bullshit boss thread not the intensive high skill bosses one.
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3be68a No.16802695
>>16799835
>not having heard about that dumbfuck nip who now owns 4chan having split the site between two domains
I don't go to cuckchan so no.
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3be68a No.16802697
>>16799839
I think you should go back to your "4channel" and stay there, they'll probably be more open to your pants-shitter roleplay or whatever it is you're doing.
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d297de No.16804076
>>16797319
Not exactly hard, but I was on this boss for good 1:30h, for one simple reason: being unlucky.
This boss starts to heal a huge chunk of his health at the end of each turn, the only way to defeat him is to attack him with certain attacks in a certain order.
This wouldn't be too bad except for one aoe-attack he does, where he randomly DISABLES one attack on each party-member.
So if Lady Luck hates you, if that one attack that got disabled was one that was needed for that chain-attack, you have to start all over again.
You have to do this three fucking times during the battles, which is interrupted through three lenghty cutscenes.
Unlike Super Kamoshidaman, Yusukesaurus and Doe I didn't die once to him but he took me by far the longest.
I actually ran out the 3DS-battery fighting him.
And if that wasn't enough apparently Enlil is even more obnoxious.
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e4d167 No.16804122
>>16801253
>>16801918
Sup, I heard you liked
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4cc9bf No.16804123
>>16804076
Yeah that boss is a pain especially if you don't pack the appropriate elements but I remember the final boss being alright.
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9110ba No.16804177
>>16797319
>Hey, class quest, wanna get defensive stuff for your bard and knight guy?
>Aight, you have to have them both in the party, they both have to be in a random mode and they have to kill two bosses, one after the other, with RNG based attacks that only activate randomly or with an extremely expensive set of items
>Also the bosses are random critical hit fuckers like Estark on steroids and can only be killed by said move
This quest was actual fucking bullshit
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6629c0 No.16804234
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ef246d No.16804301
The final boss in Ark of Napishtim is bullshit, not because of difficulty or any unfair attacks, but because if you didn't upgrade all the swords then you can't beat him and are stuck unable to beat the game. At no other point in the game was having them all upgraded necessary to progress, then after the point of no return they stick you in a situation where you must use them all. The game is good enough to be worth playing again but damn that was pretty annoying.
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12db14 No.16805301
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This fucking thing. I could've said something like "some toehoe," but this thing taught me what a damage sponge was and how unfun they are. Maybe it's not actually so bad now that I'm older. Maybe I wasn't playing optimally as a young lad. But this is probably the first time I dealt with prolonged bullshit in a game and fucked off. Level grinding is unfun too, so beating this guy hasn't happened.
Wait, there's one more I can think of. In Ys Felghana, that shitty fire dragon on nightmare. Maybe you aren't supposed to do a first playthrough on nightmare, but trying to hit it is bullshit, the spiked floor is bullshit, and getting 2HKO by a boss with weird perspective is bullshit. The first 5 seconds of the game over tune was scarred into me well before this fucker, but he added the spice of trauma whenever I hear it.
>>16797432
Don't give up anon! If you 1cc it, you'll get to see the TRUE FINAL FORM of the A.I.!
On harder difficulties it doesn't make sense to continue, losing out on certain weapons and upgrades means bosses don't die fast enough and even with a sweet i-frame dodge, it don't feel like you're packing enough heat and should just restart your run.
>>16797452
I have never played Bayonetta consistently, I sat through all the bullshit that was offered in 2, but I one and done'd the first one twice on normal and hard. I guess the Rodan fight is worse than Witch Trials V in 2?
>>16801253
Garuga peaked in 4U G rank, he got neutered in Generations. Haven't fought his deviant, though, maybe he has the light speed dash attack.
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ca602c No.16805339
>>16805301
> I guess the Rodan fight is worse than Witch Trials V in 2?
I still haven't touched 2 but yeah Rodin is absolute fucking bullshit if you don't use a lot of cheap shit yourself.
Usually most kills of him either involve the climax bracelet or abusing the hyper mode of pillow talk or sometimes the durga glitch.
If you do it more normally he becomes a lot more imposing, he's basically as aggressive as enraged balder on NSIC but without the enraged part (if you do taunt him enough to enrage him you're just fucking dead within a couple seconds), his attacks hit like a truck and you're most likely just gonna mash dodge and hope you get lucky if he gets close and forget about dodge offsetting off those you're not gonna time it right most of the time unles you have the butterflys out.
You can't easily melee him and most of the accessories are fucking useless against him so only reasonable way to damage him if you're not that great is kilgore, you have just enough time to get maybe one or two projectiles out between attackss outside of a couple where you can just barely fit a PKP which makes hi mflinch, one other usuelf is shuraba's PKP which can double or triple hit him and do a large chunk of damage as well as a flinch, hell you can chain them if you get lucky.
But then comes the 50% health mark (he has a comfortable 5 life bars) then he becomes faster and more aggressive and gains an akuma style grab which you can dodge just by moving fast, so bit harder but still not too bad.
Now comes 10% life left and the grab is instant, you can dodge it, but the window for it is basically one or two frames so can't really do it especially when the tell for that dodging point is hard to read (even without having suffered a 4 minute battle with the hardest and most tense fight in the game), only other way to dodge it is having the shield butterfly out, which works since you build up magic very fast throughout the fight due to all the dodging you're doing, and the one saving grace of that is he fuck off to the other side of the universe when you dodge it that way so you can arm some insane combo like PPPKKK with kilgore which is 9 rockets to his face in no time if pulled off right, but if at any point you get caught off guard by that one attack you're either dead or have 1 hitpoint left, oh and he's even more aggressive and has less downtime than before so even just his regular stuff is gonna be hard to deal with.
I've done that fight without getting hit and without using anything too bullshit, although I missed the pure platinum by 300 combo point because I kinda went too safe early on.
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4a5e84 No.16805362
>>16805301
i remember having lots of trouble with that fucker and never being able to beat him when i was a kid playing the dreamcast version, but years later i played evolution worlds for the gamecube and the whole game was easy without grinding beyond doing that optional tower place one time
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ce18d4 No.16805705
Pic related from Dragon Quest 11 were bullshit, but regardless I do enjoy the grinding and forging gear. The time traveling aspect in the Third Act kinda sucked though
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324e68 No.16806146
>>16801792
>natural selection occurs from sitting on your ass playing electronic toys
>still giving hack game designers benefit of the doubt
>being a cuck to inherently bad game design is somehow being "adaptable"
lol what fag
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1a9680 No.16806153
>>16805705
>Those bosses
>Bullshit
Maybe I got lucky with metal slimes but those bosses were standard stuff. Mordegon's second form was the only boss that killed me. Calasmos was overhyped and I was disappointed in how weak he turned out to be.
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12db14 No.16806634
>>16805339
Sounds worse than 2's fight with him. I think Bayo 2 has more forgiving dodge windows and you have weapon jank from Alarune, so it's to be expected. However, Witch Trials V is worthy of being called a nightmare when compared to that fight. You have to play against a Baldur/Rosa combo and a Bayo/Jeanne combo. If you hate fighting humanoid enemies, you'll really hate this. Without whip and trinket cheese strats, it would be bullshit tough.
I decided to watch a pure plat. run of WTV before posting this, that whip is more busted than I remember.
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41eba2 No.16806760
fuck this piece of shit boss, bouncy ass laser firing piece of shit.
one day i will beat this fucker
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55e546 No.16806866
>>16806146
>fails natural selection
YOU DİED
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43ac63 No.16806888
>>16806760
remember she posses the mage,
and you can controll the mage with some extend
when you figure this out that bettle almost gets trivialized
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43ac63 No.16806891
>>16797319
>first attack is a one hit kill all party members if they HP is not high enough
>has an attack that not only kill your party members but completly removes them from battle not allowing you to ressurect them. Also use this move in 2 members of your party (party has only three memebers)
>attacks on its body deal damage in the double digits.
>his attacks deals status ailments
yeah fuck this guy
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ca602c No.16806905
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5838b8 No.16806921
>original version is a complete pushover
>only has attacks that hit directly in front of him, and two massively telegraphed attacks that don't
>release the ass tampered version
>like every other ass tampered version, he oneshots or nearly oneshots you with every single attack, because World is a good videogame
>but he can now cancel any move he does by jumping up and slamming his face against concrete, just like the developers did before making him
>it's nearly instant
>it also has a terrible hitbox, and an AOE blast that does full damage
>this is the flagship monster of the game, in case you wanted to know what caliber of game World really was
>capcom's B-team, not being satisfied with making this garbage, decides to up their game
>monster hunter has mostly melee weapons, and really, all of them are much more interesting than the ranged options
>so they add a monster that constantly drains your health while you're close to him
>if he drains enough health, he just outright halves your max health, which you need to recover by wasting items
>the telegraphing on his attacks is also terrible
>his ass tampered version just sucks faster and harder
>take what used to be a teostra recolor with slight differences
>make her just spam unblockable/unavoidable AOE damage without interruption
>can't poison her to turn off the flammenwerfer anymore
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763974 No.16806934
>>16797764
>scripting error
just get a mod and fix it, retard
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ec3e82 No.16806967
>>16806921
While Vaal was one of my favorite monsters, once you had effluvian res, it was SO BORING. The monster did nothing. Blackveil Vaal is so much better. B team delivered.
So to reply to your post:
>Nergigante is always a pushover
>if regular tempered Nergi one-shots you with single hits, you fucking suck
>jumping and slamming doesn't have a 360 degrees hit box, so its easy to dodge, if he even hits
>it's the flagship monster because he's the core story element
>Vaal was the most boring, easiest monster ever. It was impossible to die against him.
>it halved your HP if you're retarded, because OF COURSE you get effluvia res against him, or a status effect removal spray, or nullberries.
>I killed tempered version first try, solo.
>she spams AOE damage because the game expects you to find a solution, like someone who doesn't suck.
Holy fuck, the game is so much easier than the original games, and you neckbeards still suck at it. Even if you suck at something, you can use the SOS flare to make people like me save your cuck ass. How can you even screw that up? You find a solution for that shit, that's called game design. You fucking suck at this game, so don't blame it.
Hell, during first run I built a set for each of the elder dragons, just to counter their Elements, which is one of the billion options you have.
There's even a built for pussies like you which literally can't die.
I keep making jokes with friends how broken MHW is, because Saffi is way too easy, but considering pussies like you play it, it might be fine.
Play Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, even the first monster would fuck your ass without access to your item box during quests.
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ec3e82 No.16806968
>>16801918
He is a late game monster appearing after the final boss, so of course he's fucking batshit. Is that the first fucking game you played?
It's not even a boss monster, unless it's Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, where I have to agree that it sucks.
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ec3e82 No.16806982
This thread is full of kids, with their brains and skill scrambled by shit like Minecraft. Gotta contribute. I won't add any Souls or Bloodborne boss because it really depends on the player which boss they suck at.
Doom 3 Cyberdemon
>you don't really fight him, you fight enemies which endlessly spawn, until you charged your McGuffin and kill him instantly. It's just bad boss design in general.
Leopaldon from Guilty Gear Isuka
>Giant ass boss which spams huge energy balls, which deal ridiculous chip damage, also attacks either stagger or throw you.
>doesn't stagger or fall, can't be thrown
Shao Khan from MK9
>on many "hardest bosses" lists, but I disagree, I only find him badly designed
>doesn't stagger, his attacks go through all of your attacks, spams two kinds of projectiles (ALL the time!), does ridiculous damage, taunts you, can't be thrown…
>…but somehow, his AI doesn't do anything against spamming arial attacks, so you awkwardly jump around all the time and kick until he's dead.
The Creators from F-Zero GX
>you race against the 3 creators of Earth (yes.) on a track without borders.
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ec3e82 No.16806990
Jinpachi from Tekken 5
>spams projectiles all the time which deal massive damage (like a quarter of your HP bar, if not more).
>you have to sidestep quickly to dodge that, with a very short time to react. Often though, while you attack, he teleports backwards and then shoots, so you can't react.
Lao Shang Lung from Monster Hunter
>passively walks through the stage for 20 minutes and you follow it and keep attacking.
>it doesn't attack most of the time. You get hit by its walking animation, which is super annoying. You can get hit by its moving tail, which has a terrible hit detection.
>you don't have a clue if your gear is good enough to defeat it, so you repeat that boring, 35 minute long battle over and over again until you realize you need better gear.
>Lao quests have to be done to proceed, so they are like walls blocking your progress.
Emil from Nier Automata
>fills a room completely with projectiles
>has zero to do with skill, I wouldn't even call it gameplay, it's just a damage race.
Ubvisto from Resident Evil 6
>chainsaw enemy with a shitton of life.
>kills you instantly in one hit.
>you have to fight him like a billion times and he's unoriginal and awful.
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ec3e82 No.16807002
Kazuya from Tekken 7
>all bosses from Tekken 7 suck in general for the same reasons.
>the boss goes like this: as Heihachi first you fight Kazuya, then you fight Kazuya who spams his full screen laser attack, then you fight Devil Kazuya, then you fight Devil Kazuya again but with a tiny bit of HP, which acts like a full bar of HP, which is awful to work with.
>Devil Kazuya can regain half of his health anytime.
>Devil Kazuya has infinite Super meter (you don't even have one), can use counterattack-Supers and regular Supers anytime. The setup for one of his Supers is a regular punch.
>also uses a full screen laser in different variations.
>his attacks go through yours.
>can enter a state where he can't fall or stagger. Can't be thrown.
>has an Ultimate attack which he randomly does and instantly kills you, which he often uses in a way that it's unblockable.
>like the other bosses, winning the battle starts a QTE which doesn't tell you what to do, and if you mess up, you lose. You only see the QTE input if you activate in-game hints like a noob.
>after winning the battle, Heihachi still loses.
Laura from The Evil Within
>you fight her at least 3 times, but it's not really a fight, but more like running away and trying to burn her with stage objects or red barrels
>kills you instantly when she hits you
>teleports all the time
Zoran from Uncharted 2
>you run in circles, while he follows you, throws a ton of grenades and kills you in like 2 hits with his shotgun
>not terribly hard, but terribly designed, and if you mess up while climbing or jumping, you're dead, and very boring to repeat.
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c63279 No.16807004
>>16807002
Laura is really not that hard and her fights take like 5 minute max. I don't see how she's a bullshit boss.
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ec3e82 No.16807006
>>16807004
They are not all hard, but Laura, Zorin, Lao, Emil and Cyberdemon are just annoying and terrible. And one-hit-kill bosses you run away from are dumb in general imo.
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c63279 No.16807007
>>16807006
But her teleports are very well telegraphed, you have to try to get killed.
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ec3e82 No.16807009
>>16807007
I dunno, I found the final battle where you shoot at levers while running away kinda frustrating. It just wasn't fun, nor scary. The first battle was fine. If you can call it a battle.
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6baafb No.16807089
Surely you stocked up on holy water before heading into the mountains.
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75d2ad No.16807129
>>16806982
MK9 is fair as MK bosses go
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602b63 No.16807174
>>16807089
>not just delaying his turn indefinitely
he's easy to cheese
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f846c4 No.16807460
>>16807002
that kazuya sounds just fucking awful
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6ca33e No.16807754
>>16806967
Are you done sucking your self off or should we give you another minute?
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11a4d1 No.16807779
It's been a decent number of years since I last played NMH2, but I'll never forget the bullshit that is Jasper Batt Jr's send form, and his "fuck you out the window" insta kill punches. And I'm sure no one else who beat the game will either. I found out about an important game mechanic on accident because I was losing to this piece of shit, and when I was raging out shaking the fuck out of the Wiimote, I learned that in NMH2 you can bring yourself back after losing your health, by mashing buttons. It would have been nice to have been smart enough to figure that out before the final boss.
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3919c8 No.16807800
Bed of Chaos is 100% bullshit.
An unfinished boss from an unfinished map from an unfinished game. It's complete fucking bullshit and whether or not you survive is dependent on whether or not you get clipped and flipped into a bottomless pit by a broken hitbox.
Capra Demon is also a pain in the ass for me. There's a 50/50 chance I'll get stunned by a dog bite on my first run up the stairs and instantly raped to death. If not I can survive but the boss fight is just one of those bosses I struggle with.
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bce3af No.16813814
>>16807779
I mean, you could always switch beam katanas when he did those attacks and get i-frames for about half an hour
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00ae31 No.16813831
>>16797509
A challenger appears
>has a move that lowers your levels by 5, doesn't sound like a big deal but it is
FYI, it's Lenus, not Linus
Also, if you want to meet the king of extra turns in Legend of Dragoon, Magician Faust would like a word with you.
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a21a99 No.16813851
Any other game has a boss with an attack that literally crashes the game?
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ec3e82 No.16813868
>>16807129
I know. I only say he's badly designed. But a shitton of people say he's one of the hardest bosses ever, which I don't understand.
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ec3e82 No.16813875
>>16807460
It's legendary awful, and the boss before him isn't much better. But I completely forgot who's even WORSE!
Shin Akuma from Tekken 7, secret boss from story mode! Man that asshole took me 5 hours or so to defeat. To me, winning is absolute luck which depends on the AI behavior.
>you play Devil Kazuya, the boss version, with a very limited moveset, especially compared to the actual boss battle against him.
>you can't learn his moves since he's only playable in this battle.
>Shin Akuma's attacks always get through yours, any hit you get in are luck, combos are unsatisfying because each setup could be suicide.
>Akuma usually requires energy from his super meter to fire a Hadoken. Here, he has infinite super meter. Means he spams several versions of Hadokens ALL the time (worse than Jinpachi in Tekken 5 by far), blue ones, red ones and Super ones.
>the red Hadoken is three Hadokens in a row.
>blocking a Hadoken deals ridiculous chip damage, and while you block, he fires the next one etc.
>he can use a Hadoken version which you can't prevent, since Akuma doesn't stagger.
>I spammed Kazuya's arial laser attack to defeat Akuma (which still took a billion tries), which is easier said than done, because he can dash (which is like a low range teleport) forward, backward (to punish your close attacks with Hadoken) and sideways.
>he has a dash version which goes through all attacks, basically an unblockable combo starter.
>he can use his signature Satsui no Hado Super Move, where he basically dashes towards you and only needs to touch you. You lose over 50% of your HP if you get hit. That move can't be blocked, nor stopped, and he can do it anytime.
>the battle ends with him using the Satsui no Hado on you, and you have to guess what you have to press to win. Is it jump? Is it duck? Is it sidestep, like you usually would? No, you have to use your Super move. Except you don't have a Super meter, and couldn't do it during the whole battle!
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2c4274 No.16829667
>>16813875
Tekken bosses are always bullshit
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6ade11 No.16829727
>>16797319
This absolute unending nigger. Not hard just fucking annoying.
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99161e No.16829798
She's an early-game boss and yet somehow the hardest one. I can roflstomp everyone in the game, but this whore is unbeatable without the (now patched) Nightjar slash cheese. Fuck her.
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c96785 No.16829805
>>16813851
Speaking of xenogears, Ramsus and pic related just walked into the bar and slapped your fuel tank in the ass. His bitch is also waiting in the wings to cut your hp in half every other turn. What do you do?
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52688a No.16830030
>>16805301
>Don't give up anon! If you 1cc it, you'll get to see the TRUE FINAL FORM of the A.I.!
Yeah I did that… and lost, still I have some hope. I still don't even really understand what to do against Supreme AI, I just got lucky.
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52688a No.16830038
>>16805301
>Don't give up anon! If you 1cc it, you'll get to see the TRUE FINAL FORM of the A.I.!
Yeah I did that… and lost, still I have some hope. I still don't even really understand what to do against Supreme AI, I just got lucky.
>>16813868
Yeah I'm just saying most of MK's bosses are like that, ofc MK9 has crap like having to go against multiple bosses in the tower and stuff. Never did get through that.
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bef43e No.16830271
I'm replaying Dark Souls for the twelfth time and for whatever reason the bonfire right next to that trap faggot isn't working. So if I fight him and lose, I have to take the elevator from the anor londo bonfire, go through the entire catwalk section, and turn the rotating bridge around twice just to fight him again. Bullshit.
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192adc No.16830297
>>16829798
Wait, really? I didn't find her that bad, I just used the Shuriken to blow her outta the air whenever she tried to rain down on me.
The nigger i found the hardest was the Demon of Hatred. No other boss took me as many tries as that fucking faggot.
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9e89da No.16830318
Tight jumps and limited ammo can mark your childhood in unpleaseant ways.
>>16830271
It's PRECISELY because you awoken the trap faggot that the bonfire went off, genius. If you have stayed with the comfy titty goddess everything would have stayed fine.
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bef43e No.16830321
>>16830318
well if they're gonna fuck me over that hard the bonfire should at least be out, instead it works, but you respawn at anor londo when you die.
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52688a No.16830342
>>16830318
jfc I hate that MM2 boss, people complain about yellow devil but at least that's a straight and honest fight, not gay trolling like that thing
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fc8112 No.16830345
>>16829798
I think she relatively fair since you can choose when you want to fight her. Now on the other hand Rape Ape is an absolute gut punch until you figure out how to deal with him. His first form doesn't even play like a Sekiro boss.
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9110ba No.16830399
>>16806990
In Emil's defence, he's the superboss of the game and superbosses are usually long ass damage races that are brutally unfair. Like Penance from FFX's remixed editions.
Speaking of
Penance from FFX
>Literal fuckton of HP
>Only strategy to beat him is to spam Quick Hit and Wakka's Overdrives
>Has two arms that have to be killed to prevent him from using a move that ends the fight entirely, thereby lengthening the fight severely
>Spams status effect attacks so if you don't autistically prepare your equipment into game breaking combinations you're fucked
>Only real way to do so is to complete an expensive as fuck sidequest to get empty 4 slot equipment to slap Auto-Pheonix and Auto Potion on, both of which need autistically huge amounts of rare items to put on your shit
>Has literally the most basic strategy in the game to beat and is a complete bore to fight
>In fact you can skip him entirely by pulling out Yojimbo on his ass to instakill him
Like what is the fucking point of this guy
I think his design might have been a scrapped final boss at some point though, considering.
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2e6ff8 No.16830485
This thing in mhw is a pain in the fucking rear.
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ec3e82 No.16830517
>>16830485
You can get used to the regular one. But the Extreme one, the battle is completely luck based with available cover, he can wipe your team at the end of the quest (disregarding the gear) which is extremely frustrating, and one player screwing up can ruin the complete quest (which is terrible in a community based game). The game expects you to master the FF jump pose to excape the meteor, which was originally just a neat trick. I have a video where I fail that jump and die while Extremoth dies, so our team lost.
With MR gear it gets easier, but not much fairer. Its absolute garbage, like all of the Final Fantasy content:
>AT reward gear is just as strong as the regular, much work for nothing.
>Cactuars are too rare, each type, fucking you up if you're an endemic crown completionist.
>story quest isn't replayable unlike Witcher.
>the story quest had the most Cactuars, so if you didn't know that you can't replay it, the game basically flips you off.
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f4a962 No.16830522
hey fuckos
remember me? i was the protagonist, but now I'M the superboss
whats that? a fair fight? what do you think you're playing pokemon you fucking faggot? i hope you're ready to roll consecutive perfect RNG 6 to 8 times when i cast sleep right before doing Gaea rage, oh and you better have equipped the sleepdodge skill, and you better not use any of these skills i don't like, if you don't fight by my rules im going to gaea rage spam
got a problem with that? fuck you.
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ec3e82 No.16830566
>>16830517
>>16830485
I just realized Behemoth was already posted and my reply is almost the same. We're both lazy fucks.
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ec3e82 No.16830570
>>16830399
Yeah but long ass damage races aren't good. It's like that hour-long FF15 boss. You can't tell me that's fun. If I want an awesome secret boss I fight against… I dunno… Rodin from Bayonetta.
Who I still didn't unlock. HMMM I should do that.
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a09ea7 No.16830575
>>16830522
>Wait for him to summon Pixie
>mana wipe her (1700MP so you'll at least need to last 1 RNG roll but once that's over you're in the clear)
>Gaea rage actually needs the sleep spell to go off
>Because Pixie cannot cast it he cannot Gaea rage
>Pixies AI with 0 MP will still try and cast spells
>effectively cut his turns by a third and removed main access to dekunda
>Bonus points if you do it to the other demon meaning demi fiend will now at most only just doe a basic AOE attack that's weaker then enemies turns in final dungeon random fights
Congratulations you broke the fight by abusing the MP draining that DDS actively tried to stop you from doing in literally every other boss fight but forgot to safe guard their hour long NG+ only final super boss.
I legit thought this was how you were supposed to win for the longest time.
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ec3e82 No.16830580
>>16830038
Yeah, the final Tower stage is fighting against Shao Khan, Goro, Meleena and Kintaro with 1 bar of HP vs 4 bars of HP. I think that counts as a shitty boss for this thread.
Thing is, it gets easier everytime you fail, so you basically have to fail 10+ times on purpose to make it possible.
It's Tower Stage 300, and I'm at stage 60 or so and already dealt with so much bullshit in that mode, I just gave up. And you can't espect me to grind 300 stages, even though I'm level 90 in MK11, which felt like a billion matches (finishing all 5 stages with almost each character, mostly pre-balancing-patch).
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f4a962 No.16830585
>>16830575
thats bullshit, i tried doing the MP drain thing and by the time i was done draining the MP he would just change pixie for parvatti and fuck me up anyway.
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ec3e82 No.16830587
Did anyone play Archenemy (3 vs 1) format in Duels of the Planeswalkers? It's not only broken shit in real life, but also in the game.
To explain it for non-MTG players: You control 3 decks at once of your choice (but no real synergy, and kinda shitty decks), or play in coop. Each player has 20 life. You fight Nicol Bolas, the boss, who has 40 life. The odds sound good at first.
Each time it's Nicol's turn, he activates a Scheme card for free, which has a powerful effect for himself, or against all other players.
Effects like "Destroy all nonland permanent your opponents control." Or "Gain control of all nonland permanents your opponents control until end of turn".
So imagine you finally gather an army together to defeat that guy, and he plays the last Scheme.
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8bd38a No.16839108
>>16797420
>never blame the boss
You're right I blame the Game Designers for creating the shitty boss.
Thank you for the Motivational Shitpost now fuck off
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8bd38a No.16839126
>>16797319
Free moves, no counters, crazy RNG
>>16797483
One shots, no counters
>>16797509
Free moves
>>16797639
Massive self-heal, crazy RNG
>>16797644
Ok what who struggled with Solidus? I remember him being a bit of a pain but if you were good enough to beat MGS2 you should have been easily good enough to beat him? Sorry dude no sympathy did it when I was 15 and shit at games.
>>16797657
One shots, ridiculous dmg
>>16797764
Huge health pool
>>16797828
Ridiculous dmg, massive self-heal, hard to dodge
>>16801072
Absolutely massive health pool
>>16801253
Hard to dodge, crazy RNG
>>16804076
I don't know what this robot penis is
>>16804177
Crazy RNG, ridiculous damage
>>16804301
BS requirement
>>16805301
Huge health pool
>>16806891
See >>16806905
>>16806921
Crazy RNG, hard to dodge, one shots, ridiculous damage
>>16806982
Good list summarized as: Breaks base mechanics
>>16806990
2nd good list: No counters, huge damage.
Huge health pool.
Breaks base mechanics.
Huge health pool, one shot.
>>16807002
3rd good list: Literally everything listed above
One shot
Boring
That's enough to get the general picture.
I would add for bullshit 'bosses', the final mission of Assassins Creed 3. Easily the worst thing I've ever seen. Look up a video because it's impossible to describe without writing a whole new post.
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8bd38a No.16839134
>>16807089
This nigga wasn't hard unless you were trying to rush through the game and didn't realise you could spam most bosses with Aeon Overdrives. If you want to beat him legimately without hacks then power grind in the Bevelle Corridor when Kimahri stays behind. It has higher AP gains than the next 3 hours of casual play.
>>16806990
>>16807002
Both these lists cover the Tekken bosses which are always absolute BS and I don't even know why
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730968 No.16839151
>>16830522
My PTSD is kicking thinking about this horseshit boss fight.
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e01cf3 No.16839152
>>16813851
>Any other game has a boss with an attack that literally crashes the game?
Ar Tonelico II. Not that is was meant to, but NISA is just fucking incompetent. Not that anyone should play the official western release at this point, thanks to Project Metafalica.
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ec3e82 No.16839239
>extra hard subtypes of Rajang and Brachydios confirmed instead of literally anything else
My favorite.
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b172fb No.16839253
>>16829727
>What if
>you had to fight a diablos
>but
>it moves at 300% speed
>and does 400% damage?
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5a50c3 No.16839255
>>16839134
Because tekken decided it would be fun to forever keep their final bosses like their arcade counterparts.
Arcade fighter final bosses were always a quality experience.
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b172fb No.16839256
>>16830580
Most of the bullshit in MK9's towers is generally less bullshit than the shit they spam at you in MK11 because MK9 expects you to play a fighting game. MK11 wants you to grind consumables and spam the fuck out of them to win, which is pretty easy to do IF you have the items needed, which otherwise the challenge is impossible.
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ec3e82 No.16839264
>>16839256
True, but I think there's too much whining about the item grinding, since if you play through the game (e.g. unlocking the whole Krypt and finishing at least a few character towers), especially after the patch, its fine. You know, if you are actually PLAYING and not wasting your money on a game you won't finish or touch, like its a stupid Steam Sale game.
But you're right. If you let the AI grind the towers for hours (thank god for whoever had that idea), why is the grind even there? Its just there to waste your time. Its not like you can sit there and wait and not press a button between matches. Similar to Monster Hunter's Steamworks, where you hold a button for literally 2+ hours to farm stuff, but you need to press a button inbetween to continue.
What the hell is that game design?
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ec3e82 No.16839266
>>16839255
Thing is, those bosses assume that the movement in Tekken is more dynamic than it is. You actually play tanks.
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b172fb No.16839282
>>16839264
It's mobile phone tier attention grabbing. It's how MK11 is being listed as "most played fighting game" because they count the hours that people have the damn thing running with the AI doing all the towers. But yeah, I got the game on launch and good fucking god, I felt NO shame doing the exploits to actually unlock the content I wanted what with the horrifically inbalanced amount of koins/souls/hearts you received vs the cost to open things.
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aba0fc No.16839332
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16797637
The thing is that sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a bad boss or if you're just bad at the game. As a result causing people to hate bosses like embed related that punish you for relying on crutches when in reality they aren't poorly designed at all. Because if you are stuck on the exact same boss for five hours while the rest of the game was easy as fuck, then the conclusion you draw is that the boss is to blame.
>>16797644
I can understand seeing it this way on EE. Otherwise just git gud.
>>16839266
Most people don't ever bother trying to use the third dimension unless they are playing as Yoshimitsu. And even then they just spin for a little bit and then play the way they usually do when they have had enough fun slowly draining their own lifebar.
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9d042a No.16839340
>>16839253
>Diablos
>But it moves like the fucking Flash and hits like an atom bomb.
Are you Dr Doom? Because thats fucking evil.
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028ad6 No.16839344
>>16807009
>kinda frustrating. It just wasn't fun, nor scary
That describes a lot of Evil Within honestly
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8b0b1f No.16839347
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8bccbe No.16839351
>>16797483
>ffxiv collab which is an mmo
>fight is designed around a party
>this is somehow bad.
You people are just shit at games, Behemoths mechanics are fucking easy with a half decent party, the challenge is the Extreme version because it actually changes the fight.
If you fuck up during the meteor you deserve to die, period, your fault for not knowing decent positioning.
Fucking Lunastra is a much worse fight in World, Behemoth is just there to filter shitters, Kinda like Rajang now.
>>16806921
>MH
>expecting good hitboxes
Found your main problem.
>implying nerg was ever hard.
He's a casual filter, good job getting filtered.
>>16806967
MR rank is harder than Gen's G-rank and maybe even 4U's not counting apex shit.
>Play MHFU
I'm already playing MH so I know I'm already playing garbage, but I'd rather not play outdate garbage that is everything before 3rd gen MH.
MH1 was garbage on release and is garbage now.
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e02874 No.16839361
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I was able to tear through DMD in a day with Super Vergil, with my biggest obstacles being that damned chessboard and Arkham. If you fail to jump to the side in time your HP gets erased insanely quick by those tentacles which there will be more of them the longer the battle drags on. Speaking of which, you lose access to both your devil trigger and style in the second half of the fight, with only an AI partner to compensate if you don't have someone who knows how to play to help you. It's a pretty basic boss otherwise with a bunch of enemies that make you spam your gun button until he shows up again when most of them have been eliminated. Even with Super Dante, I'm dreading to fight him again
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2abb18 No.16839397
The liquid fight in mgs1 without a stick is fucking stupid hard and it took me 5 hours
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2711da No.16839400
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028ad6 No.16839408
>>16839397
Speaking of MGS1 that torture sequence is impossible. It seemed easy as a kid but holy shit I can't get past the second round
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f505fa No.16839444
>>16839351
>I'm already playing MH so I know I'm already playing garbage, but I'd rather not play outdate garbage
I hope you didn't proofread your post and decide you were ok with saying something so retarded.
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0b3b4a No.16839449
>>16797420
Shut up nig, there's such things as a bad or unfun boss.
Look at the bosses in that awful new Contra game, they're massive bullet sponges
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652cb1 No.16839595
>>16797764
By the time I had gotten to her corprus had made me the ultimate being. I was at 1000 strength, had 100 in every skill and I wielded the Tools of Kagrenac. Several of my pieces of daedric armor were enchanted to continuously restore my health and fatigue. She took a while to whittle down, but Sunder cracked those old bones of her.
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aaaf4a No.16839669
>>16839351
>MR rank is harder than Gen's G-rank and maybe even 4U's
Man I heavy disagree. MR doesn't even START to get hard until Ruiner Nergigante.
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a3e166 No.16839677
>>16806891
I beat this fucking thing while I wasn't even playing. I let Vincent hulk out, and my other two party members got one-shotted. For some reason, NOTHING was hitting Vincent, so I let the game run on auto pilot to see what would happen, since I had no input. Came back from the grocery store to a victory, with Vincent gaining a buttload of levels. I don't remember what I had done, beyond have everyone float to avoid earthquake damage.
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730968 No.16841874
>>16830522
I nearly forgot how he can one shot you in by bad RNG when you first encounter him.
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7461e8 No.16842012
Styx in Styx: Master of shadows fight itself is piss easy compared to the lead up, but contrary to logic after confrontation and dialogue with the final boss and being in a circular arena you are "hidden" for the purpose of alerts so if you get in combat you get an alert fucking over "no alerts" for the whole level.
>>16797420
>anon wakes up from cryosleep, goes on /v/ and gives an advice that's a decade outdated because braindead cumguzzlers with AIDS think "difficulty" is gimping your health and damage, while making enemy mooks rape you in one hit and take 5 billion hits to die
>>16801326
Because he espouses the complete internalization of reality typical for boomers, nothing is ever not your responsibility or mistake, not accounting for bad designs rather prevalent nowadays
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dcad3b No.16842080
>>16841874
dont forget about the constant Mamudoon and Mahamaon spam through the whole fight that will randomly fuck you when you're near the win.
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730968 No.16842722
>>16842080
I actually nearly broke my disk over that.
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cc12de No.16857088
>>16800833
FFXI was my Alma Mater. There were actually 2 bosses like this, one was Pandemonium (who made the news because players fought it for 48 hours straight and one of them died IRL from a blood clot from sitting so long) and the other was Absolute Virtue. I never killed Pandy, but I did fight AV a few times as a linkshell pickup.
AV was obnoxious. You needed 4 randomly dropped rare items from 4 lesser gods just to pop him, and he would only pop in the place of a different NM about 1 in 5 times. So just having the chance to fight him was a bitch. What really made him hard apart from his auto-party wipe Meteorite attack was the ability to spam a Full Heal move that instantly restored his millions of HP to full, unless you figured out the developer's obscenely complicated gimmick that let you seal that power away. He could also summon other superbosses as pets.
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18c4e1 No.16857099
Both of the final bosses in No More Heroes 1 & 2 were complete bullshit, the one in NMH2 especially.
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f0a928 No.16857642
Stictly, not a boss. Still screamed when I beat this final track.
> final of 4 tracks in the cup, if you fail 4 times you need to start all over
> longest track in the game
> speed boost, usually to get through long sections or slowdown fields is not used here but one curve
> one S-bend you cannot make on full speed - UNLESS
> you use the boost just before the curve, bounce OFF OF THE WALLS TWICE and THEN make the fucking S-bend
Fucking hell, that one curve is actually nuts.
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cf979c No.16857668
These two motherfuckers. Not even the gatito pins made anything easier, let alone fair. Also
>I learned today that the mobile version of TWEWY had microtransactions
Jesus.
>>16807779
>>16857099
Henry is alright because he is a cool boss to fight, after Bad Girl and Jean, OHKO moves should be fairly easy to avoid, and they were. Also the music was great.
Jasper however, is fucking shit in every aspect, OHKO move out the ass if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, music is shit, Jasper as a character is the worst thing to ever happen to a video game, specially for a final boss.
>>16807800
I remember Capra Demon being the boss I was stuck with for the longest time in DS, specially as a Tank. The room is so little and having to fight so many enemies in said room is hell, specially such small and fast enemies like the dogs.
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e0b622 No.16859046
Isenberg (the final boss) in Lost Planet: Extreme Condition.
> game throws completely new mechanics/controls at you in the very last level of the game (which is basically a two minute run-up to the final boss)
> flight controls are absolute ass. Obviously rushed and very little effort put into them unlike normal mecha controls which control pretty well
> unlike every single boss before there is no sensible strategy to win
> is not even remotely challenging when you finally figure out the retarded pattern necessary to beat him
> your pewpew lasers lock onto him despite doing literally nothing to him, making it more difficult to shoot down his missiles (the only thing your lasers are good for)
> there is an entire mechanic of destroying the power to the turrets rotating around the tower in the center of the arena, but it's a complete waste of time because they will realistically never hit you anyways
I honestly think this may well be the absolute worst final boss I have beat in a videogame, ever. The story was complete and utter melodramatic nonsense and they shove it down your throat with long boring cutscenes, but that would have been forgiveable considering the gameplay was actually quite good, until the chunky wet fart of a final boss. At least they named the jew, I guess.
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ac0796 No.16864978
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83445f No.16865168
>>16857099
>Both of the final bosses in No More Heroes 1 & 2 were complete bullshit, the one in NMH2 especially.
As a billion Jewtubers have probably pointed out, the boss fights sucked on purpose. Suda is just as much of a hack as Kojima, he just isn't as outspoken about it so he usually gets a pass. Its like comparing Yoshiyuki Tomino to Hayeo Miyazaki, sure, Gundam is preachy as fuck and beats you over the head with it's message, but its nothing compared to Ghibli where Miyazaki not only bashes your brains out with his Jap Boomer ideals, but then he will also never miss a beat to expound on these ideals irl.
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690d2f No.16865240
>>16859046
Did you play it on the PC? I played the game on PC and don't actually recall having any issues in the game.
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6aa3b0 No.16865289
>>16799831
>I hate non humanoid bosses and I hate bosses with minions
Then BOY have I got the boss for you. The actual bullshit isn't this boss but rather the arena.
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b5642d No.16865308
>>16797420
>"I-it's not the game designer's fault a boss is badly designed"
It's poetic that you post a DS2 image since that game is notorious for its bad boss fights and whenever someone criticised them faggots like you would just default to "just git gud".
>>16799831
I would add to this; giant bosses.
>>16799836
He's not wrong though. Non-humanoid bosses are usually shit, especially if they're blobs.
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f55b8a No.16865312
>>16830570
>>16806990
>Yeah but long ass damage races aren't good.
Neither is NieR. That's the point. Have you ever played the Original Drakengard?
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23fa62 No.16865373
>>16865308
>faggots like you would just default to "just git gud".
This defense for DS2 never made sense to me given that it was the easiest game in the series with some of the flimsiest feeling combat.
But hey it had nice fashion and poise so that's something atleast
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b6bbfa No.16865395
>>16865373
>poise
>implying the game needed it in the first place
>Ah yeah I'll just tank the attack of a creature ten times my size maxes perfect sense
Come on now.
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3cfb94 No.16865427
>>16865395
You're talking about a game that has magic and dragons in it.
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23fa62 No.16865431
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16865395
I'm not really a poise man myself, not my playstyle and I think Bloodborne helped reinforce that, but people could create some pretty silly and creative builds with it.
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b6bbfa No.16865461
>>16865431
pvp poise makes perfect sense don't get me wrong
It just shouldn't work the same with pve
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23fa62 No.16865472
Not sure how many instances there are in the game where you even can against bosses, but I wouldn't know, I make speedy boi builds most of the time.
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013a54 No.16865586
>>16797319
SMT games are complete random nonsense. Everything system relies on a dice roll in those retarded games.
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0bb258 No.16865614
I played two Ys games in my life - Ark of Napishtim and the one before that, can’t remember the name. Oath of Felghana? I can’t recall, it was one where your first area is a mine shaft or something. Anyway, I had issues with both games but in different ways. With Napishtim, I ended up learning much too late that I was required to level up all three swords to max (I had previously been maxing only one and not caring about the others cause they sucked) in order to beat the final boss. It wouldnt be impossible to beat the final boss with low leveled swords but it would take way too long. So I couldn’t finish it and I dropped it right then and there as soon as I learned the game fucked me over.
With the other Ys game, I don’t know what the fuck went wrong but the bosses were waaaaaaaaaay too spongey. I thought I was upgrading everything I could and leveling up a fair bit (without straight up grinding) but each boss took upwards of 20 minutes just whittling away at their huge health pools. They were all somewhat formulaic with the attack patterns but that is fucking unacceptable. I can not reasonably keep doing the same movements perfectly for twenty minutes and not be expected to die or at least get hit many times. So I dropped that shit at about the time you get to the fish statue whatever boss, cant quite remember since its been years.
Anyone else experience this? Dunno if it was Ys-drones I was speaking to but they defended the game tooth and nail even after I told em this
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20131d No.16865654
>>16865614
I've played the first game and the bosses aren't that hard, but if your level isn't high enough, their HP and damage is multiplied by around 10, essentially forcing you to get killed and go grind some more.
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d6e6f7 No.16866181
>>16865654
And people still sing Ys’ praises?
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20131d No.16866208
>>16866181
Ys 1 is a 1987 game, so I can forgive it in that case. Even if the remaster just wants to have a big nostalgia boner for those problems instead of fixing them.
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5dbcf1 No.16866286
>>16804301
>>16865614
Napishtim tells you very explicitly that the final area is a point of no return, and specifically warns you that you won't be able to upgrade your equipment once you depart. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the other swords are useless when there are enemies that force you to switch swords to damage, and having access to their spells is really helpful on the higher difficulties. Plus it's not like there's anything else to be spending your emelas on.
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fc4d8b No.16866289
>>16865614
These Ys games have weird shit with scaling where one level you're dealing jack shit in terms of damage, and then the literal next level or the next armor/weapon upgrade is the level you should be having the fight.
It's weird but the game usually makes sure you're leveled up or a few hundred xp away from the required level for a boss fight by having the xp multiplier which encourages you to go through enemies in every screen you enter. Because once you play the boss at the correct levels they're wonderful and outside of maybe the three phase final boss nothing's a health sponge. You want those you can play Ys Seven and above
I admit that holy trinity has its flaws but it clicked so perfectly with me I can't help but forgive them and I assume that's the case with many anons.
Speaking of ys, that annoying bat-fucker from Ys 1's mine. It's the one boss that I remember not having anything relating to a strategy, just utter fucking luck with how he spawns and despawns.
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2f5c8c No.16866315
Any CAVE resource dump bullshit, really.
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9bdb3e No.16866367
I tried beating this bastard on level 1 crit using speedrun starts and I could not for the life of me beat him.
I was able to beat every boss before him, using level 1 crit speedrun strats but not him.
I know hes more difficult on the PS4 remake due to the game running at 60 FPS causing his card attacks to move faster and to happen more often, but the real issue was that I kept getting stuck in dice mode at the very beginning of the fight and getting killed because if you dont get undiced then you basically are guaranteed to die.
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3ef800 No.16867156
This asshole. God the game was great. All bosses follow a similar gimmick of killing a bunch of summoned minions as quickly as possible and ending the kill chain with an attack on the boss, which would instantly kill them if the chain was long enough. Enter this son of a bitch. Not only does he teleport all over the fucking stage instead of following you or staying stationary, like every other boss, HE ALSO BECOMES INVULNERABLE WHEN HE ATTACKS YOU.
>just finished an 8-kill chain with enemies all over the fucking place
>boss just TPed away across the stage or started an attack
>HAHA WAIT 5+ MORE CYCLES UNTIL THE MINIONS RESPAWN BECAUSE STRAIGHT ATTACKS ON THE BOSS DEAL A PIXEL OF DAMAGE, AND YOU CAN ONLY ATTACK ONCE PER CYCLE
I don't know why they went with this kind of bullshit. Rest of the game is absolutely fantastic and cannot recommend enough.
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be3a1c No.16867174
>>16866286
>it's not the game's fault, it never tells you explicitly that there's a final boss that requires you to level up all three swords to beat (and it's not like you can just earn the emelas to upgrade these swords in passing, you need to grind emelas with a purpose, especially for the sword's last and most useful level)
Got any better arguments? Cause yours sucks. Admit that the game is shit. The only sword with a useful spell was the fire/red one, all the others sucked anyways.
>>16866289
>you're dealing jack shit in terms of damage
>nothing's a health sponge
Make up your mind. I want you to remind yourself that there isn't some sign outside of each boss battle saying 'you must be this level to have a fair fight'
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c4bbfd No.16867221
>>16867156
That game was AWESOME but no matter what I did I couldn't beat that guy. I gave UP but I still consider myself as beating it anyways because he is horseshit and I was young and don't want to replay it now in the future and I could just watch the ending on youtube or something anyways!
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2debe7 No.16867266
>>16867221
still fagging it up i see
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0e813b No.16867302
>>16830318
I don't get how people think 2 is the best one when it has this fucking thing and the entire stage leading to it.
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629fbe No.16867309
>>16867156
I actually liked him,even though he took me a whopping 5 hours to beat him.
Still,he was pretty bullshit when he did his attacks in the air I found the minions to be a lot stronger than him.
Agree on the game being awesome,and as I'm playing Kunoichi right now while loving it I can only think that a new shinobi game in this style will never happen. Fuck this world
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fc4d8b No.16868393
>>16867174
Ok DSP, I'd like you to play any game with a leveling system and not level up. I guess Sekiro's full of health sponges because how the hell was I supposed to know I shouldn't fight Sword Saint without having a few prayer beads and memories? It's not like I'm dealing jack shit damage to them or I'm getting one shot by them. I guess the same applies for Dragon's Dogma, or Underrail not letting you 1v5.
With the exception of the final stage, the game throws in your way enough enemies for you to level up or be close enough to the level required for fighting the boss. The game then lets you have an exp multiplier that increases with combos which incentivizes you to go through enemies in screens. The game further then gives you defense, power, speed and mana powerups when fighting mooks to help things go faster. The game then gives you a giant exp multiplier if you're underleveled and fighting higher leveled enemies, and heavily limits your exp gain if you go back to fighting the eagles in Illburn when you're highly leveled. The game gives you every indicator as to when you're supposed to fighting a boss. The game spaces out giving you ore(or in the case of Origins, Roda fruit) so you can upgrade your weapons accordingly. The game gives you a save point and a teleport point before every single boss and miniboss. What else should the game do?
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fc4d8b No.16868394
>>16868393
>With the exception of the final stage, the game throws in your way enough enemies for you to level up or be close enough to the level required for fighting the boss
This assumes you're going through the screens in order to progress and not just repeating screens to level up, by the way.
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3ef800 No.16868628
>>16867309
There's something off about his minions. Maybe it's the way they float, but sword strikes miss them pretty often even when locked on.
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3b73c2 No.16868685
>>16797319
Only one and number one. He made me drop Sheep Dog 'n' Wolf when I was a kid. I just couldn't find the way to beat him. After 10 years I won the rematch.
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629fbe No.16868688
>>16868628
Yeah,their hitbox is weird.
My way of killing them was jumping and doing some air strikes after a dash while locked in.
This usually worked,but they felt pretty cheap,especially when I was killing them just to get those sweet life bonuses that helped me get throught a 22 minutes battle where I lost my fucking sanity.
Shinobi 3 never ever.
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a9d12b No.16868858
>>16805301
.4 ULTIMATE
Garuga is speed and rage. Nothing makes me take my time like a Garuga on an expedition.
Apex Garuga is purely for masochist hunters or gunners, why take crazy and ramp it up to 11 when you can fight the legendary thunder monkey for the same relics?
>MHG
Deviant Garuga has a charged one shot dash with some tracking involved. Hes a real hunter fucker that cat players love to farm.
>MH WURLD
Garuga just has a tail slam and leaping beak dive slam added.
The only monster i truly hate is White Monoblos. Fuck that guy. Insane ramming speed and then he just 360's on your ass if you panic dive the first one. Depending on the expedition terrain generation, you will have a small desert cavern of pain or outdoor desert ledges of pain.
Then there's MHGs Hyper Silver Rathalos…
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d6949e No.16868886
>>16806921
>Lunastra
>That AOE move is ridiculous.
>Shes a real Anti-Lance monster.
>Roaring wind press fire rape is a common occurrence. Mantles had to be used for her.
I cheesed her tempered version with an Ice SNS, mounts and infinite LBB+.
I don't care, i just want my layered armor. At least with all the other monsters i could tailor a build with my Lance that didn't get screwed.
Then Wind lazor dragon dropped in Icepwn and i had to grab my GS again.
Iceborne feels lazy compared to 4U.
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eea949 No.16868927
>>16797420
So which game did you just get bodied in?
>>16865427
Just because a game has fantasy elements doesn't mean that it can't have any rhyme or reason to its world's mechanics, for lack of a better term. Otherwise, tell me why I can't piss rainbow-colored napalm on my enemies in Dark Souls III.
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