93d888 No.16790755[Last 50 Posts]
Anybody tried this shit yet? Is it any good? I got a free referral link and I'm wondering if it's worth it.
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b72514 No.16790756
>>16790755
It's garbage, if the Xbox version is the standard experience.
Noticeable lag that's only tolerable if you're a normie playing on easy.
Forget playing on your phone in your home, you probably have a million wifi points around you and all of them, including your own, constantly shift channels to keep speed up. Result: your own gig wifi causes awful jitter. And with jitter you will have missing commands. Start looking left, jitter happens, you get stuck going to the left.
Literally should only be turn based games, but that won't bring in money, so you have to lie about it.
Xbox will probably get it right by making it some kind of addon to games you buy, instead of Stadia's "buy at full price" retardation.
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fc2f51 No.16790760
>>16790756
Y'know I kinda suspected that would be the case when they touted the "predictive input" shit or whatever they called it.
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99a3ad No.16790765
>botnet
If anything, Stadia is a reverse botnet. Instead of millions of devices connecting to a server, it's one central sever connecting to millions of devices.
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4791b3 No.16790768
>>16790755
>Is it any good?
NO
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01dfc6 No.16790770
>>16790756
>It's garbage, if the Xbox version is the standard experience.
>Noticeable lag that's only tolerable if you're a normie playing on easy.
How noticeable? A TV that's not in game/PC mode and has motion smoothing/interpolation turned on can easily add 100-150ms to input lag. Is it even worse than that?
>>16790765
The connection is bi-directional, so both of your examples describe millions of clients exchanging data with one central server (more like one central cloud, but whatever), ergo both cases are botnet.>Noticeable lag that's only tolerable if you're a normie playing on easy.
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8af8b7 No.16790781
It's frustrating how the corporate retards(every single one of them) always put shooters and FIGHTING GAMES first and in front when marketing cloud gaming.
It's like these retarded googled "which games can you notice input delay locally when using a wireless controller" and them licensed only these.
For fuck sake, why they don't stop lying and stop trying to bend the fucking speed of light and instead market games like Fire Emblem, Valkyria Chronicles, Persona 5, or "cinematic" walking simulators like Life is Tumblr or The Lesbian of Us. But no, it's always:
>You can play fighting games and cowaduddy perfectly. Trust me, we can bend physical reality.
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c433b2 No.16790792
>>16790781
Shootans and fightans are both popular and regarded as pillars of core gaming. Basically, you have to include them if you want average normalfags to see your platform as something serious.
There's also the online multiplayer aspect which is important for systematic shekel shakedown. I fully expect Stadia to add Fortnite.
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8159cc No.16790807
>>16790792
How does it not it have Fortnite already? There are probably BR consoles that have it at this point.
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4ab815 No.16790817
>>16790755
When's SamSho coming to PC
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2639bf No.16790834
>>16790756
>It's garbage, if the Xbox version is the standard experience.
The Xbox Version (Xcloud I assume you mean) is the premier experience from everything I heard from people who are in the Alpha and have also tried Stadia. Less lag, better value, more consistent performance with less compression artifacting, etc. Stadia seems to be only marginally better than old-Playstation Now - but that won't last long since Playstation has already announced that they intend to just rent Xcloud servers from Microsoft going forward.
They are all just garbage separated by degrees - but what will really differentiate them is their pricing. Google Stadia requires you to "buy games" at full market price before you have access to them. There is a subscription, but that only gets you access to certain games every month and an across the board discount on license purchases. They're trying to be an all-digital online only console streamed to your device. Playstation Now and XCloud are not marketed as or intended to be for the moment anyhow replacements to the home console. They have much larger catalogues of games too choose from, and you get access to all of them for a $10 monthly fee. But those catalogues are on a rotation, so you're still encouraged to buy digital or physical copies of games you like when available. Of these two, word is Microsoft is going to just roll Xcloud service into GamePass Ultimate - so people who already have that subscription will get access to Xcloud for no additional fee ($10 stand-alone). Sony was forced to follow a similar route to keep PSNow soluble - offering local game downloads where available, discounts on purchases, but at the moment PSNow is stand-alone. Still comes out to about $20, same as GPU, but they don't have a real separate platform like PC to include in the offerings to obfuscate the streaming option price hike.
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b3222d No.16790836
Thanks for the info, gents.
>>16790817
Never ever
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06c8b9 No.16790848
>>16790817
Chinkshit is probably stuck on Google, not many sour grapes when every new iteration of SNK is shit past their first bankruptcy.
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4ab815 No.16790864
>>16790834
I'd argue that Nvidia's service is the best one due to lack of downloads and better overall latency compared to XCloud and Stadia. I argue this mainly based on experience. Like these services are fine when you're in a hotel in NYC, away from home and wanna play some simple casual vidya, however keep in mind that there WILL be the occasional stutter and you WILL have to work around it.
From my experience, I was able to hook up a Geforce Now app to my laptop and play Destiny 2 and Devil May Cry 5 away from home. That said I was playing these games on an easier mode then I would normally play on, mainly due to the lack of decision making needed for those thought provoking moments that require you to be on your toes and predict your enemies next move. Which is why I'd play Devil May Cry 5 on Normal Mode rather than Hard Mode which is what I usually play on.
>>16790848
Didn't the new SamSho sell like half a million copies or something like that?
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494e05 No.16790893
The only way any game streaming service could overcome the lag is tachyons by rendering the results of every possible input combination many frames in advance and sending that absurd amount of data to the client machine ahead of time. If you're using a single 360 controller, one frame of render-ahead could be 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 times as expensive as sending individual frames after receiving input. That number will increase exponentially for every additional frame of render-ahead.
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06c8b9 No.16790896
>>16790864
I'm not really sure what that's supposed to mean when SNK is run by morons like Capcom is nowadays.
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ae672a No.16790900
A myriad of consoles can already do LAN ethernet level connection and it's still fiddly, on your own home network.
How do you think it's going?
Nevermind the fact that google literally can't do a damn thing correct and they're on life support to even stay afloat, why the fuck would you even think it'd be worth looking at?
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ae672a No.16790903
>>16790807
Epic probably told them no.
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a7d1b7 No.16790905
>>16790834
>but that won't last long since Playstation has already announced that they intend to just rent Xcloud servers from Microsoft going forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Microsoft that's paying them to use their service initially. Even Nintendo went public earlier this year showing some interest in using Microsoft's servers for game streaming. Microsoft spent massive amounts on cloud infrastructure in the last decade, the second part of their strategy involves forming partnerships. Even if they have to give away or sell their service to competitors to keep them away from Amazon and Google.
>>16790893
There's a much simpler solution; send the models and textures visible on the screen from the cloud and have it rendered locally. Keep a buffer on hand to store previously seen or upcoming portions of the game.
This is called 'edge computing' and is the new buzzword that's going to replace 'cloud computing' soon. I expect the Stadia service will move to this model if Google doesn't shut down in the next year or two.
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67c00a No.16790910
>>16790770
>How noticeable?
One of the initial reviews hooked it up directly to the really fast company internet. Took at least a second to jump.
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ae672a No.16790911
>>16790905
<Just render it in 4k on a phone bro
<What? That doesn't actually do anything to fix the issues with the system to begin with? Check this out "edge computing"
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67c00a No.16790912
>>16790905
The response Nintendo gave was largely the same as their response to VR (Yes, I know about Labo). It reads like "We don't really see this taking off, but if it does we'll just license someone else's version and surely save a lot of money"
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aead15 No.16790913
>>16790893
>rendering the results of every possible input combination many frames in advance and sending that absurd amount of data to the client machine ahead of time.
So that's like having an ATM that has the entire database of user data to be able to use it?
>>16790905
>send the models and textures visible on the screen from the cloud and have it rendered locally. Keep a buffer on hand to store previously seen or upcoming portions of the game.
Yeah but what about the open world games? Won't that make the loading times worse and the data consumption higher, since you might not go into a nearby area, but they've already loaded it for you from the get-go.
>Google doesn't shut down in the next year or two.
Wait how? i thought they are too big to fail, then again Youtube is a huge moneysink for them and it's only kept floating because literally everyone uses it.
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2639bf No.16790914
>>16790905
Possibly. I think part of it is that so far from what I've seen, Microsoft is the only company really investing significantly in modular submersible server pods that can be deployed anywhere from shallow lakes to deep rivers to coastal areas - bringing the data centers to the customers, rather than running huge expensive server farms hundreds or thousands of miles away from their customers - then trying to engineer (or market) around the laws of physics.
I think a lot of companies are looking at initiatives like Project Natick and seeing that MS is going to have a huge lead and superior service for the forseeable future as they're already close to a position to scale. Tethering to anybody else would be a detriment to their services and put them several years behind the competition.
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3892f1 No.16790930
>>16790912
Speaking of Labo, it's unironically the best VR headset due to actually having fucking games and not costing a kidney.
>>16790913
Pic related.
https://killedbygoogle.com
Google constantly shuts down services, even successful ones. Google Hangouts is a recent one, being shut down next year and replaced with a business-oriented Skype ripoff.
Since the picture was made, they killed two more services.
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a7d1b7 No.16790950
>>16790912
You're right about their statement being nothing, back when mobile gaming was big they made similar statements about it.
>>16790913
When Stadia was first announced the question everybody in the press asked was 'how long before Google shuts this down?'. If they were competent reporters they would have asked an international corporate tax attorney about how newer tax breaks for digital media in several countries probably influenced their decision to start Stadia and look at when they expire to give a realistic answer.
>>16790914
Those submersible server farms are meant to skirt around legal jurisdiction issues in the EU and that's why they're only deployed off the coast of Ireland which is well known for its tax haven status. The only thing impressive about them are the lengths tech conglomerates will go to to avoid paying taxes or abide by privacy regulations.
>detriment to their services and put them several years behind the competition.
The only real advantage of 'the cloud' for consumers is automatic backups of personal data and a massive media library that's delivered by streaming. Most people had access to this capability since the mid 2000's. It's 2020 and there isn't a single thing that cloud computing can do well asides for offsite storage.
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67c00a No.16790953
>>16790950
>Those submersible server farms are meant to skirt around legal jurisdiction issues in the EU and that's why they're only deployed off the coast of Ireland which is well known for its tax haven status. The only thing impressive about them are the lengths tech conglomerates will go to to avoid paying taxes or abide by privacy regulations.
Currently, but it's also allows for really cool surroundings anywhere in the globe instead of just a relatively small arctic zone.
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49ac4c No.16790955
>>16790755
>Is it any good?
Where have you been? No.
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ae672a No.16790957
>>16790950
I know this probably isn't important for anyone, but I'd like to specify remote storage isn't cloud computing.
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6227a2 No.16790966
>>16790913
>Youtube is a huge moneysink for them and it's only kept floating because literally everyone uses it.
I hear that might change in the next few days. Youtube's datamining shit finally got them in trouble with the FTC who are now watching them closely – and their solution was to pass the buck of responsibility to the video-makers by forcing them to assign their videos as kid-friendly or adult (no general audience) and mistakes risk getting HUGE fines. It's what finally gotten some people to start quitting the site for alternatives like Vlare and Bitchute. Not many so far because normalfags are complacent sheep, but depending on how they enforce it, this might make them irrelevant and cause them to die like Tumblr.
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4791b3 No.16790969
>>16790966
>this might make them irrelevant and cause them to die like Tumblr.
Here's hoping.
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ae672a No.16790974
>>16790969
>tumblr unironically took the social justice faggots that instigated advertisers to flee the service to begin with over the porn artists that actually could draw halfway worth a damn without tracing shit other tumblrites drew (traced, probably from a show)
The internet sucks a big fat cock
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46c1a7 No.16790999
>>16790756
>Literally should only be turn based games
I don't think it's appropriate for those either. Once you've memorized the menus of an RPG you will start to speed through them. Even if it's not ATB. If the game lags or inputs are dropped while menu'ing that quickly then you will input the wrong command and fuck up the battle. Though the nature of the system will probably prevent you from learning to menu efficiently to begin with.
It doesn't break them like games, but it certainly reduces their playability too.
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99a3ad No.16791005
>>16790974
What the fuck are you talking about? Tumblr got rid of porn because their (former) new owners didn't want to be associated with adult content.
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2f495d No.16791021
Only the most retarded of retards thought Stadia would work.
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9a5ca3 No.16791027
>>16791005
>(former) new owners didn't want to be associated with adult content.
Wasn't those the retards that wanted to turn Tumblr into the new PDF or some equally retarded shit?
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9e2229 No.16791057
>>16790755
Google is AIDS and you should feel bad for asking.
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9e2229 No.16791060
>>16790781
They are trying to appeal to the e-sports crowd. Even the name, Stadia, implies a spectacle of sorts.
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494e05 No.16791085
>>16791005
I thought it was to avoid underage nitwits posting illegal content of themselves
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6c4d2c No.16791150
>>16790950
>the lengths tech conglomerates will go to to avoid paying taxes or abide by privacy regulations.
Eventually it'll come full circle and the methods to bypass the tax will cost more than the taxes themselves. That or the board of investors will remain the dumbest mother fuckers in existence.
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6724f4 No.16791156
>>16791126
>pedofag
>>>/twitter/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/facebook/
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ae672a No.16791159
>>16791085
It was partially that, because The tranny community there was "helping" underagers transition. Honestly, considering one of the least filthy parts of the website was the porn community that should have sent up some massive red flags.
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a840df No.16791169
>>16791085
>I thought it was to avoid underage nitwits posting illegal content of themselves
If you post your own nudes when underage, do you go to prison?
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43eedf No.16791172
>>16791169
No, but you are registered as a sex offender.
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ae672a No.16791173
>>16791169
While it is dependent on the circumstance, the answer is usually yes (juvenile detention)
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28885d No.16791191
>>16790930
Somebody give me the keys to the time machine. I need to see if there's anything worth salvaging.
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3892f1 No.16791193
>>16791191
A modular ara would always be worth saving.
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962b2b No.16791224
>>16790755
Dead on arrival
The specs are horrible so bad that even reviews are bad
Always online
Huge bandwidth requirements
Ai predicting movements
You don't own the games
Supporting Google Botnet
>wondering if it's worth it.
Not even for free
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2639bf No.16791314
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35f392 No.16791652
>>16790781
Maybe they're counting on normalfags lowering their standards even more just like they have been doing since forever accepting the kind of shit that is now commonplace. Specially if they somehow achieve some level of acceptance, when people start using it and it becomes more widespread it doesn't matter if it's good or bad, they'll just accept it because it's what their friends use and what their environment suggest through aggressive marketing, plus it is more convenient which is what gaming seems to be all about. If we got to the point where games journalists can get away with complaining on record about how they actually have to play games things can go anywhere.
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67ca15 No.16805305
>>16790755
>not even 2 months in
>Dead in the water
Good fucking riddance, here's a dub to whatever gimmicky piece-of-shit failure that Jewgle would cook up in the future.
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000000 No.16805327
>>16790755
It is a failure, as anything made by jews and leftists.
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f2416b No.16805348
So who wants to bet when Google pulls the plug on this abortion? I give them about 2-3 years, only because they will want to kill it when no one is looking. I doubt Cyberpunk 2077 is going to save them when it is as multiplat as you can get, without the infamous lag that scared everyone away from Stadia.
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5b70c7 No.16805349
>>16790755
Hey you know those matches in fighting game where the internet shits itself and everything stalls?
Welcome to that
with everything.
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2639bf No.16805372
>>16805349
I'd also like to point out the absurdity of the service plan that allows you to stream games over the internet, that are played entirely online, but won't let you play multiplayer without an additional $10 a month fee.
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5b70c7 No.16805398
>>16805372
Welcome to google, we make a lot
We'll sell your info to a bot
We've got it all, we've gone to town
We even know how much you frown
Don't worry my boy we'll give you fun
It stalls because the server's overrun
It's Stadia, a stadium to play your games
Please ignore the reviews and trust the claims
It won't stall in the station like a broken train
Please mister, please sir, don't use your brain
It won't stutter and jive like a homie on meth
I swear it's not the worst thing since the black death
It'll play all of your favorites, just forward the cash!
Look away, you won't get whiplash from the backlash
12.99 a month, it's cheap you see
on top of the extra shit you gotta buy I swear it's fucking free
Buy my shit
Deal with it
Google Stadia
We don't fucking know how we could have made it work either but we gotta make Q4 somehow and marketing grants will cover the rest
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5b70c7 No.16805410
>>16805403
>literally everyone in the thread shitting on it
Shill tried, but failed.
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