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Unstable, buggy, and janky as all hell but it's wonderful.

>>16789710

>immersive-sim

I liked Fallout 3 back when it came out.

>>16789721

How many, if any, girls can you romance in this?

>>16789742

Is SIE best girl? I can handle buggy games, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines is my favoruite game after all. The setting seems kinda interesting too, and it does appear to have a fair bit of customisation options.

>>16789750

Yes! That sounds like my kind of girl alright. If I remember correctly from the trailer she has a German accent, which is another plus in my book.

Think I’ll give this one a try.

For some reason I know these games are terrible, but I enjoy them quite a bit. They're basically games that you play for a half hour after work, have a wank, and go to bed. They're usually very quick, and are very easy to cheat through, but I enjoy playing them because they're so quick. It's like the equivalent of soda. Is it shit? Absolutely, but it's highly addictive.

The game is short (can be beaten in under 20 hours which is pitiful for an RPG), the story is simplistic and cliche, graphics suck, the gameplay offers nothing new, etc. objectively a bad game but I still like it.

>>16789721

>>16789748

I wouldn't call this game buggy or unstable. There is a bug that I encountered, being that all the NPCs are gone from the level when you load a in-level save. So I saved my progress only in safe houses. But the "janky" part definitely applies.

>>16789739

Almost all of them to a degree.

>Gamebreaking bugs out the ass

>Lots of mechanics made useless due to using cheese strats being far faster and more efficent

>Absolute dogshit game balancing, playing without using the cheese strats will make getting high scores (and therefore earning currency) near-impossible due to the massive score bonuses you get from completing missions quickly

>Literally half-finished due to the publisher going bankrupt mid-development and forcing the devs to tie up loose ends and ship it, fuckloads of cut missions and content

>Cant use unlocked Haunters on mission replays without a mod, so any Haunters you unlock in the late game can only be used in the last few levels

>In the original release of the game it ended before the final mission, so the last Haunter you unlock is literally unplayable

>The final mission was released later as a patch by the devs (and is now standard with the rest of the game on GoG/Steam)

I replay at least twice a year. Highly recommend it.

>>16789705

>Badly-made games that you DO like

shit in every possible way, but I unironically liek, and can't explain why

This piece of trash, it's one of the games I've had the most fun with so far, when I used to play with a group of about 8 people

>>16790060

The first fits the criteria even better and is more interesting.

I think Trespasser falls into OP's category. I love it but it has a lot of problems.

The Bad

Apparently it ran terribly on pc's of its age. I never found that a problem because I played it much later. Its actually sort of a plus because they tried something different and ambitious, with physics before hl1. if you have even a half way decent pc / VM it will run fine.

The physics system is probably the worst part. it gave it kind of a float walking and jumping and also guns would sometimes be knocked out of your hand when you walked to close to a wall or something.

bad AI. its an old game and the ai is very limited. raptors can't go inside buildings and have pretty strange path finding.

It does looks its age but I don't really care for that sort of thing so I just turn my brain to "old fashioned" mode.

The Good

tits

no hud. guns had some amount of ammo in them and your character would say "feels, full" or "about half". it really made the survival aspect work well. you would worry if you have enough shots. more survival games should have that mechanic.

good voice acting and an actual back story to Jurassic park, narrated by Richard Attenborough

Pic related.

Great humor (for the most part), phenomenal soundtrack, glitchy as fuck but said glitches let you do some of the most ridiculous and fun shit I've seen. It's such a shame that so much of the game just got cut. I doubt if even 40% of the game actually got finished, considering how many fucking stages got cut at varying stages of completion, mostly conceptual but some fully modeled.

A bunch are listed here, but mixed in with stages from other Crash games.

https://crashbandicoot.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Cut_levels

Highlights include

>a near compete bug chase early in the game that got cut due to technical limitations (found by one of the original devs and uploaded to Jewtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0kGEKeXU4

>a fully modeled stage in Coco's head

>cut third underwater dimension that you were meant to travel to (referenced by a dialogue line in game, as well as concept art)

>said third dimension was meant to have a playable Mecha Bandicoot stage and a Coco submarine level

>cut level where you play as Evil Crash and beat the shit out of a Good Cortex to make him evil

>Far Cry 2

Once you look past the flaws in Far Cry 2, particularly the re-spawning guard posts, the game is comfy as fuck. Also the stealth is actually amazing because of the level design, minus 1 quirk were the AI can see through foliage.

>Spellforce

I literally cannot play any other RTS. They all feel so samey. I can tell Spellforce doesn't really bring anything to the table, but it's just so fucking comfy. It has a charm to it I don't see in other games. That being said, I have not been able to stomach the expansions. They felt like chores.

>Sonic Adventure

The level design is too linear for my liking and relied too much on scripts, but it's still fun to try and beat my own times in the Sonic stages.

>TMNT (NES)

I only really play this once in a while because it's a decent challenge.

>Silver Surfer (NES)

See above.

>Battletoads

See above, but I actually like the levels in Battletoads and don't really have one that I hate. All of them go on for a decent amount of time without too much repetition with the exception of the last level.

>>16790167

the OST is what made the game

This shitty ass vacuum cleaner Garfield game. It's a bit nostalgic for me, and I like the slow unlocking of rooms of the colorful suburban home.

>>16790202

Drakengard 3? Potentially. 1? Well, the flying is good. Genuinely. The dragon sections are fucking great.

The ground sections? No. They all suck ass.

Oh Where to even begin on this topic.

>Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z

Clearly a huge step down in terms of quality, Ninja Gaiden is already better then God of War, yet Yaiba is a mediocre God of War rip off. Still I enjoyed Yaiba and Ms Monday's characters as a change of pace to the series, NG characters are pretty one note and serious, probably due to the fact that the stories in NG 1 and 2 aren't all that important just window dressing for the action, Yet Y:NGZ has main characters who are just unapologetic selfish sarcastic assholes. If anything the games lower quality fits Yaiba as a character perfectly since He thinks he's better then Ryu when he clearly isn't.

>Umbrella Corps

Multiplayer has Only matchmaking between two groups of modes, yet no way to tell how many players are searching for a game in either of them, and no text chat. so your simply left waiting searching for a game in a void of nothingness for god knows how long before getting into a game. This was when the game was just in a humble bundle for a dollar by the way. But by some miracle when I was actually in a lobby with people who knew how to play decently I found it pretty fun. I really dug the tacticalcool style of a game about playing as umbrella mercenaries, and the brainer is a pretty cool weapon. it was also quite the adventure dedicating 2 weeks to constantly grinding out the game since I was fully aware that the small surge of players caused by the bundle was going to dry up at literally any moment. Needing to actively decided when to kill and when to let level 1 players kill me to have matches actually finish, since If I curb stomped them all they would quit and I'd be fucked.

>Shadow the Hedgehog

The biggest flaw with the Shadow game is how it handles finding objectives, basically you just have to search every level top to bottom beginning to end over and over again, until you just have everything memorized, since the game will not give you clear indication on what areas of a level you should actually be looking for anything if you missed it the first time through. That being said I'v played the game so many times since it came out that memorization is no longer a problem.

eagerly awaiting the fan PC remake of Sonic 06

>Devil May Cry 2

Basically I just love Devil May Cry a whole fucking lot, so that extends to DMC2 (but not DmC), I appreciate what the game does right, while the level design isn't anywhere close to how good DMC1's is. I still think DMC2 has pretty good atmosphere, I dig the deserted city environments since it feels like somewhere a modern day Demon hunter would actually need to go. Also DMC2 had a fuck ton about it game mechanics that is pretty much unknown due to how little people play the game, so it was cool for me to learn about how it all functions. As far as I know my steam guide on DMC2 is the only thing in English that goes into this much detail about the game.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1753766220

A bit of a shame hardly anyone will ever know or care that it exists, but I enjoyed making it nonetheless.

>FF7 Dirge of Cerberus

There might be a theme here with my choices… I just like killing things as an edgy character. What is even the story line of this? I don't give a shit, I just want to shoot things.

"Like" is a bit too strong word here but I'm fascinated by Batman & Robin for PS1. Basic idea is that Mr Freeze and his minions are on the move and about to commit diamond heists and whatnot. However, you don't know when and where, so what you do is you drive around Gotham collecting clues, then go back to the batcave to examine the clues with your batcomputer. Once you've collected and examined enough clues you've hopefully figured our the time and place of the next crime. Then you go there and stop the baddies.

Crimes happen at fixed intervals and you can skip time forward. So let's say the game start at 9:00. At 9:20 you've figured out that Mr Freeze will try to steal diamonds at the local museum at 10:00. So you drive to the museum, skip time forward to 10:00 and this triggers the diamond heist.

Sounds like a fun concept to me and feels like it's ahead of its time. 3D open world game for PS1. Too bad the game is so bad it's a meme basically. I'd recommend playing this only for research purposes. It's a fascinating pile of dung.

Tarkov is objectively fucking garbage yet the main gameplay loop of "if you die you lose all your shit but you can take someone else's shit" makes me put up with the innumerable issues I have with it.

>>16789872

Modern Warfare is actually a fun game and I feel like it was made for my demographic specifically of someone who last played MW2 and went on to play FPSs like Insurgency. I'm kinda shocked with how much fun I'm having playing it and grinding out all the weapons. The progression feels like Warframe in a sense.

>>16790596

This, just when we're on the verge of photo-realism in games they get inundated with diversity

>>16790849

>who needs content if people are willing to run the same mission over and over for that 5% chance of loot?

It's a Hell Brave New World!

>>16790815

>somehow looks worse than wildlands

Almost every visual aspect is better than Wildlands. Wildlands had a more diverse map, but Breakpoint has some really great environments and architecture. I haven't had any crashes personally, but it did have a shitload of bugs for a month on release. I do wish they'd do away with ez helicopters though. With helis and fast travel there are barely ever reasons to drive and actually be on the ground in the environment.

>>16790883

>all I know is I must murder.

story is wtf is going on with walker/skell and how to get off the island. haven't really played much of the story and mainly grinded faction missions, which is explained in the npc dialogs and through some of the missions you can repeat. but yeah, the faction stuff is really weirdly paced - and temporary, fuck that shit.

also heard the story isn't even over yet and will be concluded as part of their "live service". still a bit excited about the terminator crossover tho, that was usually some fun shit (even if it was hit or miss like the predator event).

usually animations are the least thing I notice, but somehow they trigger me hard in breakpoint. my assumption is they animated the running by hand or interpolated it from the mo-cap shoddily (it's based on the waist, so it has no real weight and sprinting is overly sped up so it looks like you're flailing on a stick in your ass), and since you run a lot…

as for monetization I don't mind that much either since all it has is boosts and cosmetics. giving one half away as reward and have the other half in the store (like on of the ghillie suits) is kind of a middle finger tho. oh, and faction missions had caps for some reason.

ubisoft in general seems to be itching for money, the whole vivendi thing and 2019 wasn't a good year. they went full EA nerfing the cosmetic events in div2 so people buy their keys instead of grinding. bit worried how it will affect their games, because usually they spend a shitload on post-launch support (instead of dropping the game outright).

Disciples 2 isn't that good to begin with, although I still love the game.

Magic between factions is not balanced - humans and dwarves having god tier magic, and demons/undead having trash. Same applies to units as well - having straight bad abilities, or not being able to scale well with the levels. Enemy AI is more like a nuisance than the actual threat.

Some of the artifacts found are just junk and serve little purpose in the game.

Still, game is pleasant to look at (but runs like shit). And leveling up the crew still is kinda interesting

>>16789705

>making opposite threads

Killzone

<terrible frame rate

<half baked characters

<garbage ai

<intensely linear

<feels unfinished

<generic guns and grenades gameplay

And yet I like to imagine what it would have been like if it where a good game. 2 got a half way there by fully realising its visual style but it failed to do anything interesting or unique to help it stand out from every other shooter. They could at least have done something interesting like make the conflict a little more grey and have you play both sides instead of going for the trite Nazis vs Allies bit.

Visually, Div2 isn't a bad game. In fact, I think the visuals are goddamn great. Gameplay is average, but wrought with bullshit and AI cheating like pinpoint accuracy, grenade throws being hyper accurate, unbalanced weapons, and other sins. Also a bit grindy with little build diversity and a clunky UI system.

But I really like its tacticool customization options and some of the 'dungeons' like the FEMA bunker and the overall 'viral post apocalypse' aesthetic.

I think the game is mostly dead and Ubi said it didn't make as much as they wanted didn't bomb, though, but I still go back and play it every so often.

>>16791675

>I still go back and play it every so often.

grinded the last event, now I'm pretty much done with the game, too much bullshit. massive/ubi learned nothing and then had the gall to lie straight into people's face when they nerfed the droprate of keys, trying to deflect with "people just didn't understand how keys are awarded". nigga if I play the same amount of hours and end up with less keys I fully understand you want me to buy keys. least have the balls to admit it.

to get back on topic, played pic related last month due to a free EA game pass… and the game is actually quite fun. classes play distinctively different, there's a good amount of build depth (of which div2 has nothing), the ironman gameplay is fun as fuck, guns feel like they have oomph and sound like it. even the loot aspect isn't complete cancer. that part of the game is actually damn good, and the few flaws still existing are not a dealbreaker (still room for improvement tho)

>story

it's a bioware game, 50% if the population are gay (not exaggerating), it's not earth yet you have almost no whites, mystery meat everywhere while there are still asians, irish and gay german fashion designers with their own accent running around. literally half the cast is some stereotype or another (one asian is a bubbly princess, the other is literally autistic, your ex-mentor is a maori or samoan full with tattoos of course), and the dialogs itself - which play out like a VN - sound like marvel writers jizzed into a microphone to the point it's almost uncanny.

otoh lore and everything else is interesting enough that I'd like to know more, which was probably due to karpyshyn laying the groundwork before fucking off again.

unironically hope EA reboots it so there's at least a chance for more content. as big as the map is at some point you've seen everything. covering it in snow hardly makes a difference (and only makes it look worse because everything is different shades of grey now).

Certainly not badly made, but the term "fundamentally flawed" is probably more correct.

Have been knowing about its problems since before I got it recently, but it appeals to a certain niche of autism that no other modern game outside of scam citizen fills.

The game's main problem is that there isn't much to do outside of grinding for the next ship which I just skipped by grinding Void Opals and getting the Anaconda plus Trader Elite rank within 5 days of buying the game.

It desperately needs worthwhile ways to invest time and money in other things while lowering the overall grind since Void Opals are really the only viable income source.

Allowing later midgame players to claim an unpopulated system for themselves or their squadron and managing it would be interesting for example. Would be a good opportunity to integrate squadron wars

>>16790299

All of the series you posted are games with decent/serviceable gameplay that, if given a brand new IP name, would be received a lot better or well regarded. Except Shadow the hedgehog, that game is a masterpiece. Anyone who appreciates it is a true connoisseur who appreciates fine art and has mastered his palette for consumption of the vidya medium.

I approve you post in short.

>>16792180

At this point I feel as if I have no choice but to take some kind of pride in doing my best to enjoying shit that the consensus says shouldn't be enjoyed.

I ended up making those 5 I picked relate to each other, but I also beat Superman 64, and got all the achievements in Superman Returns for no particular reason recently.

it was funny and fascinating to see that the devs clearly didn't think about one achievement in Returns called Frequent Flyer. You have to fly for 10,000 Miles. That is form Australia to London it take pretty much 10 hours of non stop flying at max speed in circles to get it. The game doesn't have anywhere near enough content to justify traveling that much you'll get 100% before you even hit 1,000 miles. So I rubber banded the sticks and the fly button down, then played Blood Omen 1 while that was going on.

Super Man 64 was just something I felt like seeing though since I actually played it allot as a kid, but never got to the end, I actually really good at flying though the rings so I don't mind it at all, but even if 64 is a really flawed game, It has a level were you just fucking Pick up Darkside like a goddamn sack of potatoes and fly his ass to some police, so they can put him in jail I guess. It was hilarious and made my day.

>>16792203

I thank you for the kind words anon. The Shadow game was honestly a pretty important game for developing my tastes. It was the first time I really enjoyed a game but then heard it had a negative reception. It made the younger me do some introspection on why it was exactly I liked this game that so many other didn't, and while their problems with it didn't matter to me. Since then while I can come to understand peoples criticisms and even agree with some of them, I will still appreciated what I enjoy regardless.

>And I hear you about NPC's. People simple heard "Bioware" and assumed there was gonna be romance, Loyalty missions and party-building. Because that was Bioware's schtick for nearly every game they did.

you could easily do that, that's usually the main thing that happens in most VNs (and that's basically what anthem's dialogs are). not sure who'd want to romance a twink barkeep with the voice of fix-it felix, but I don't judge.

my assumption is that development was such a mess that some of it was probably in there but got cut. I mean banging aliens and shit was bioware's main shtick for years and what was made their tumblr audience buy their games.

>I'd have tried it, but since I can't pirate it and I didn't want to fund it's post-launch development (that should have been done before launching) I didn't get it either.

>Shame. I like Warframe, and this could be an alternative to that whenever I get tired of grinding. I'll give you that the flying part looks really good.

while I'd agree for singleplayer stuff, I can accept it for online "live service" shit since you can plug possible holes and go in directions that extend longevity, so I don't really mind it.

never got into warframe much since I'm not a fan of grinding for grinding's sake, only reason I do it in anthem is because it's done in a way that's somewhat fair (they were smart enough to only have ranges on the bonus, not the the stats itself) and easy to get another pull on the slot machine.

if it ever goes f2p (or you see it for cheap) I'd say check it out, but knowing EA there's a good chance they fuck that up too

reminds me to look into who took over, because I can't believe those retards at edmonton were able to turn the game around to that degree.

This right here. The weapon balancing is shit, it has the Hotline Miami 2 problem where enemies can shoot you from off-screen, compared to Postal 1 the weapon variety is severely lacking, some levels are terribly designed, the spawn system is so broken that it sometimes spawns you right into enemy fire or in front of a car, there's no score system or anything so the game has very little replay value and cinematic finishers are also broken, so much so that there's an option to disable them called "Safe Executions" that I had to enable after I'd gotten softlocked during an execution 3 times in a row. But the dialogue is absolutely hilarious and the environmental destruction is fantastic. It's one of those games that would greatly benefit from a sequel.

>Combat Arms, full of hackers and huezilians, but the fast-paced emergent gameplay(walking on thin ledges and over fences, surviving fall damage by "landing" on a ladder) was top-notch

>S4 League, clone of Gunz without K.S., another F2P cancer full of high ping and cheaters, but the soundtrack and design style was too great

>Gunz 2, another Gunz clone, worst netcode possible in a game, 80% of matches crashed(if any player disconnects, the match crashes plus random crashes before a match even begins) + boring PvE but still had wallrunning and other Gunz features

I miss korean shooters, Goat of Duty is the only replacement I could find in Current Year+4. CoD itself is too slow and casual, clearly made for controllers.

>>16792694

Someone actually did the math, it will take around 10-12 hours

>>16792908

I will defend this game as long as I breathe.

Boomers and GenX simply don't get it. They are too grumpy, weeaboo and outdated to feel and appreciate the original artistic prowess of this game. Besides tight gameplay.

>>16797723

I'm honestly disgusted by the fact that we've reached the point where someone felt comfortable posting this.

>>16797723

>>16793026

The console version of Ghost Master, "The Gravenville Chronicles" is a completely different game from the PC version, it just re-used the assets.

Its also dogshit.

The original Ghost Master is a janky unfinished mess, but its still entertaining and interesting.

It had potential to be a masterpiece if it had an actual budget and was finished.

Ghost Master : The Gravenville Chronicles is just straight up trash.

>>16797723

>Nocturama actually migrated to 8kun

>>16797789

Unironically this

There was a time when I was a massive dota addict. You can tell the game was originally a dumb mod just to fuck around in. The heroes and abilities are so fucking stupid and overpowered I would just fuck around all day with fun shit I thought of. I don't think I've seen any other game with so much stupid shit that one class is micro's an army, another class has to cough up key combinations to create overpowered spells that combo into eachother, another class can swap his health with anyone at no manacost, etc. Thank god valve neutered most of the abilities or I'd still be addicted today.

>>16792513

> it's a rare thread where you can talk about games like that without getting drowned in memespouting faggotry

I understand the necesity of this memefaggotry as to prevent reddit and other unwanted from feeling welcome and bringing in more people who will unironically defend this game. Its possible to have these kinds of threads when our board has low traffic but now that it's going to open up it could be very volatile for shit games being proped up.

I want to put in Valhalla Knights 2 for my badly made game. Shit gameplay, mission style, traveling, and generic story but tons of content for race types, armor, weapons, classes, general party arrangement, enemy varieties, and levels of enemy varieties. So much so that it is my top 10 games of all time, even though it's flaws are very inexcusable.

>>16800524

I, too, was a MASSIVE Dota fan (Since the pre-alpha times at least) and absolutely loved the game. Then they added cosmetics. I still played after that, I but I saw what TF2 went through and I knew they'd fuck it up somehow, and the cosmetics would start detracting from the game. They started with that shitty Ursa yodeler cosmetic set which fortunately they took off the store (and I made a bundle off of it) but they did a complete 180 and went back to their shitty ways of cosmetic sets that don't fit.

But you know what I said? I said alright, if it's just cosmetics that don't effect gameplay, I'll be fine. Then they kept releasing uninspired hero designs and later uninspired new heroes, like Monkey King and the fucking fairy and fucking japanese oni thing. The designs were clearly pandering to China with their LoL-esque looks. More like cartoons instead of their own original designs which allowed for character depth and such.

But you know what? I kept playing. Kept playing at least until they switched out stats and replaced it with horribly balanced shitty fucking "talents", and also - this is the most important part - made every game that much more similar if you were playing the same character. You couldn't go Medusa with full stats + shield and jungle. You were stuck and forced to level two skills at once. This was Valve's way of putting players on a track with safeties at either side, with no room for variation. Probably because variation is harder to balance. My ass. Anyway, that's when I left. I also noticed how they were making games shorter by giving you literally shit tons of gold - especially supports. You know, the class that isn't really supposed to have much gold to go around outside of wards, courier, dust, etc. They made bounty runes, and then they made bounty runes show up every fucking minute, and they made you get gold for simply stacking camps. And those fucking tomes. Holy shit.

Anyway, I am brought much sorrow seeing the state of the game. I won't even broach on the special $30+ cosmetics which are of limited availability and the gay ass Dota + or whatever it's called that actually works as a fucking subscription just for useless shit that was previously available

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It's still better than League of gay ass legends, though, if that's worth anything.

>>16800612

>Kept playing at least until they switched out stats and replaced it with horribly balanced shitty fucking "talents", and also - this is the most important part - made every game that much more similar if you were playing the same character.

They kind of completely changed that with the latest patch though, now every game is completely different because a large portion of items simply aren't obtainable every game. Now you don't have to worry about it being the same every time.

>Kept playing at least until they switched out stats and replaced it with horribly balanced shitty fucking "talents", and also - this is the most important part - made every game that much more similar if you were playing the same character. You couldn't go Medusa with full stats + shield and jungle.

I don't really have strong feelings about the game in it's current state but I've yet to understand the argument that stats are more complex than skill trees. I will say yes some skill trees are terribly balanced, but I don't see how stats could be more complex than a binary choice.

>>16800562

>tfw Valhalla Knights 3 Gold will never get a western release or PC port

God why did such a critically panned series have all my favorite party building features and give me the enjoyment of an mmorpg styled guild without having to rely on actual people.

Enclave

It's not nearly as bad as Topware's other game, Two Worlds, but it is some of the most Eurojank clunky fantasy I've ever witnessed.

HOWEVER, it has one saving grace of a game mechanic, and it's most likely one made from pure convenience or laziness.

So you have 2 campaigns, one good, one evil. You go to all the same levels and fight the same bosses at times. But there's this really bizarre deja vu built into the story where you fight yourself ALL the time. By that I mean you will be playing a level in the evil campaign and fight the character you played in the good campaign in that specific area.

So for instance the first level of the good campaign you play a knight who breaks out of jail in a castle and you make it to the bell tower at one point and this orc starts ringing the bell and throwing bombs at you, you fight him, and you kill him. In the evil campaign about 5 levels in you get the orc bombardier and your mission involves breaking into that castle and at one point you ring the bell in the tower and this knight comes in and yells at you and you kill him. This happens in every level, multiple times a level, and it gives you a reason to complete the campaigns multiple times because you see everything from different angles.

Speaking of different angles, the female characters are hot as fuck and the game lets you look right up their buttholes like so many delicious eastern European whores.

So yeah, personal favorite of mine.

>>16800562

>Someone else played this piece of shit and also enjoyed it

Played 1-3 and liked them all for some weird reason. Just seeing my characters slowly improve with gear or even just stats was enough to drive me forward to completing each game. Traveling was an utter pain in the ass, but I really liked how everything felt connected with certain shortcuts and just how crazy some of the later areas looked. Still an utter shit game I can't recommend to anybody.

>>16800627

What's this about items not being obtainable? Sounds awful

And stats are more complex than skill trees cause skill trees are only once every 5 levels and are usually very useless until the level 25 talent, whereas stats are every other level usually and they can dramatically change your early game by an order of magnitude. Talents are just yet another way for Valve to force games to be over with quicker, likening it to LoL which normalfags love since they can play one full (20 minute) game and go back to other shit for their small and ADHD-ridden minds.

>>16800628

I haven't even had to have the chance to play VK3 because it's the only game I want on vita. Now I hear what you're saying and it makes it all the more worse.

>>16800664

>>16800628

Also to add on now I know how the series got 3 games (wii not included). Motherfuckers like you are lurking around here.

>>16800665

>And stats are more complex than skill trees cause skill trees are only once every 5 levels and are usually very useless until the level 25 talent

Useless compared to what? Leveling attributes? Previous to talents by level 10 assuming you went stats whenever you possibly could you could gain +10 in Strength, Agility and Intelligence. Plenty of talents trees at level 10 have comparable choices as a choice between one set of stats over the other. Take Kunka for example who can get 6 armor (he would need 36 Agility to get the same amount from raw stats) or 40 attack (he would need 40 strength to get this). These options are comparatively more useless than +10 to all attributes?

Again, I don't like the current state of Dota, and think that most talents are extremely one sided, but to argue pure stats was a more complicated choice the game more depth doesn't make sense comparatively to me.

>What's this about items not being obtainable? Sounds awful

There are now "Neutral Items", they have 5 tiers, and, as the name implies, are dropped by neutrals. There's like 10ish items per a tier and their time gated for when they drop, but only 3 items per a tier and the rest won't drop. This means that only 15 out of 50(ish) Neutral Items max can be in a given game of Dota.

>>16800756

I forgot to mention, the Neutral items can be freely shared between teammates, so if your AM gets a good support Neutral item, he can just give it to a support, no need to keep it to himself.

>>16800766

>Oh wow everyone's saying our game is turning into league of legends because we neutered most of the powerful abilities

>I KNOW LETS ADD RANDOM DROPPING FROM WC3

A million weak ass items are not fun. Big dick items that raped people are fun. Weak half-baked ways to force teamwork like neutral items also aren't fun. Retarded skill trees that bloat the shit out of the game to compensate for the fact everything is dumbed down is not fun either.

>>16797723

There's some legitimately funny bits of hot topic over-the-top edge and retarded social commentary buried in DmC, but most of it's just bland and vaguely reprehensible. Donte didn't go far enough, and the nu-metal's put way too low in the audio mixing.

I've mentioned this one a few times in similar threads over the years, but I'm going to repeat myself here. This shit is like Great Value brand Age of Mythology meets Diablo 2.

>Phoned-it-in tier voice acting

>Quite possibly the jankiest control scheme of any ARPG I've touched: Hitting a hotkey just makes an ability your "active" one, while actually using it requires you to right-click

>Buggy to fuck and back, thank God there's a good zone teleport system in place, I got stuck in walls several times during

>You have to beat the game 3 times over to get the "true" ending

>Despite being a hack and slash, you go a few levels without getting any abilities that can hit multiple enemies

>All restorative potions are based on percentile rather than static number: So for example, a health potion heals 40% health over the course of a few seconds. Despite this, the potions never scale in price, so by midgame, you can just buy a fuckton of them and just spam them while ramming into hordes of enemies

>Speaking of hordes of enemies, only a certain number can flank you at once, so many larger packs of enemies will just sort of idle until they can actually reach you

Yet, in spite of everything, there's something oddly satisfying about blazing through packs of enemies, that in some cases works because of the jank.

>Thread went from people discussing mechanically flawed ames to mesiocre AAA trash like it's an unopular opinion thread