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daa2c9 No.16786649
>Cuckchan /v/ get triggered over Red Dead Redemption 2 and breath of the wild for having empty open worlds
>They are the biggest defenders and shillers of Death standing
Friendly reminder modern day walking simulator genre wouldn’t exist today if it wasn’t for Hideo Kojima.
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9048ec No.16786653
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>>16786649
Metal gear solid 3 had forced feminism bullshit in a historical setting long before battlefield V and that was considered the best game in the series. I don’t know why people give Kojima a free pass when it comes to SJW shit and lack of gameplay. Metal gear solid 4 had more cutscenes than gameplay.
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470fcb No.16786663
>>16786649
>Cuckchan /v/
And, WHY should I care about those faggots?
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3b673d No.16786667
>>16786663
We don't, OP does. They're all trash.
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6b00c2 No.16786672
Two things broad strokes, second, who cares?
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ce3804 No.16786691
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6586de No.16786699
>rageaholic
I can never take this fag seriously solely because of that one completely retarded New Vegas review he made, no matter how much I agree with him. Kojima is an overrated hack and is only good when he's under a company that can block most of his bullshit terrible ideas, oh and this thread is shit.
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367c73 No.16786722
>>16786663
They were trying to grab ya prize, they work for the mercenary. The masketta man.
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bbc70d No.16786742
> modern day walking simulator genre wouldn’t exist today if it wasn’t for Hideo Kojima.
Ya because they simply didn't exist before death stranding right?
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a97ce8 No.16786743
>>16786653
Yeah, The Boss is one of the worst Mary Sue characters ever written.
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74d7be No.16786746
>>16786742
You directly have Kojima to thank for cutscenes over gameplay.
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470fcb No.16786747
>>16786746
That was Don Bluth, you fucking retard!
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c013fa No.16786748
>>16786747
but those cutscenes facilitate its gameplay
still, you have a point
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9048ec No.16787281
>>16786747
Dragon lair 13 minutes. Kojima had cutscenes over an hour long. Try again.
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28282c No.16787284
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b08834 No.16787285
>>16786649
no you nigger, walking simulators were first popularized by shenmue, then other companies like Rockstar and Ubisoft took them to their natural conclusion.
>razirbitch
this motherfucker needs to lay off the meth and make an effort to reduce the overall amount of syllables that he produces in any given sentence.
>muh kojima sucks
yeah yeah, but you can't deny the splendor of MGS I, II and III at the very least. also fuck you peace walker is a great game.
>muh he's a progressive/doesn't agree with my politics
yeah, that's true of most of europe too but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy their wine and women.
>blahblahblah death stranding sucks
maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but I left this shitty video as uneducated on the game as I did when I started watching it, so…what a waste of time is all I'm saying.
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eaa1c6 No.16787291
>>16787285
>no you nigger, walking simulators were first popularized by shenmue
It could be argued that the first walking simulators were the point and click adventure games, as in those games story was the main focus, and besides puzzles(some logical, some bullshit), there was not much to do, but to click and walk.
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3fbf12 No.16787292
>>16786653
And then faggots sperged out when MGS4 went all out with babes in skintight outfights.
Friendly reminder that
>FROGS>>>>B&B Unit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>>>>Quiet
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3d3fa7 No.16787305
>>16786746
Walking simulators are not known for their cutscenes, you fucking retard
David Cage games are not walking sims, they're movies
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a26c24 No.16787318
QWOP is the only true walking simulator.
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1348b3 No.16787327
>>16787285
>Shenmue popularized walking simulators
You dont know what that word means
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bbf08b No.16787336
>>16787305
>Walking simulators are not known for their cutscenes, you fucking retar
Then it's a movie with a walking simulator elements in between, don't know how it's any different. If anything, it's even fucking worse, because you might as well watch the video of it on jewtube and save yourself from the pain of "gameplay".
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3d3fa7 No.16787343
>>16787336
And MGS games had actual gameplay
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cb1be4 No.16787344
>>16787291
>It could be argued that the first walking simulators were the point and click adventure games, as in those games story was the main focus, and besides puzzles(some logical, some bullshit), there was not much to do, but to click and walk.
I disagree, solving puzzles is the point of a point and click game, the fact that you spend a lot of time walking around environments and learning the story are not the essence. The story strings together the puzzles and that can be said for any game puzzle solving game with a story attached.
Where as with a walking sim, the point is to walk around a 3D environment. The story is just a way to direct the player in what direction to walk. There can be light puzzle solving and some world interactivity, but a game that is mostly puzzle solving or puts a greater emphasis on world interactive wouldn't be fairly described as a walking simulator.
I think a good example of a game that isn't a walking simulator but features a lot of walking around in a 3D environment would be Viscera Cleanup Detail.
The game has virtual no narrative to it and is more of a 3D sandbox game then a walking simulator due to the level of interactivity there is in the world, and the fact that, while you have to walk from mess to mess, the walking isn't the main thing you are supposed to be doing its cleaning and repairing the environment, you just have to walk from spot to spot because how else will you get there?
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470fcb No.16787353
>>16787344
With you boiling it down like that, you just summed up that walking simulators have even LESS gameplay than some of the most primitive FMV games.
<Here's Gone Home from literally 20 years before Gone Home, and it's a better game than Gone Home
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601a22 No.16787356
>>16786649
Not related, but this retard
>credited himself with doing synthwave, GG and some other shit before it was cool in a video not too long ago
>slowed down his videogame content to suck off an orange man's testicles
>gets into pointless twitter slapfights all the time
>has forced, contrarian opinions for the sole reason to appear unique
>thinks the Witcher rips off Elric of Melnibone
>likes F3 and thinks NV is shit
It's a shame, because he does say smart things from time to time.
>>16787353
Are we really that far gone from 2013 that people are mixing up Walking Simulator and Movie. Kojima games are movies, gone home is a walking simulator.
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3d3fa7 No.16787379
>>16787356
>mixing up Walking Simulator and Movie
In their defense, both forego interesting gameplay in favor of presenting a pretentious narrative
What confuses people about Death Stranding is that it's a movie game, but also in between movie cutscenes has relatively complex and lengthy gameplay segments that literally simulate the element of walking- in a way that the term "walking simulator" would apply perfectly, were it not for that term already being applied to games where you just hold forward the whole time
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