434b11 No.16786543
From the makers of surprisingly fun "Cthulhu Saves the World" comes "Cthulhu Saves Christmas" completely out of left field, unless they mentioned it on their blog or something - I wasn't keeping track.
I know this sounds like a shill thread, but it isn't, I just remember liking the first one despite it being RPGmaker. They also had some RPG about a skeleton protagonist, can't remember the name off the top of me 'ead, though. That was similarly as good.
I'll upload the game to mega if anyone's interested. Is there anything I need to remove from it, like steam.dll, so that steam can't track my ass? It ran just fine when I copied it to a non-steam directory.
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9bf080 No.16786544
Why does everybody draw Cthulhu like that? It's not up for interpretation, HP literally drew him multiple times.
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f408b9 No.16786556
Can I get a quick run down on Cthulhu's popularity? What is it that draws in the crowds? What do you like about it?
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5a16fb No.16786564
>>16786556
Let me first start out by saying the game is quite separate from actual HP Lovecraft mythos, and just uses Cthulhu as a joke - it's all tongue-in-cheek. But if I were to explain the love of "Cthulhu", i'd say it's similar to why "Steampunk" is so popular.
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edd635 No.16786576
>>16786556
>What is it that draws in the crowds?
The kind of crowd that play Cthulhu RPGs and watch or listen to the plays from the HP Lovecraft Historical Society.
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f408b9 No.16786581
>>16786576
>>16786564
What then is the drawing power of Lovecraft? Having no experience with him, I assumed he was a decent writer filling the void Poe left when he went for a late night nightcap and stroll. And I find steampunk pretentious revisionism, as an art style, not necessarily the stories that accompany them. The Cthulhu character is more than a monster, what say you?
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4e6024 No.16786621
>>16786581
>>16786556
Lovecraft's unique writing style and ability to tap into certain horror trends that are still affecting to this day mark him as one of the true greats of literature. The Call of Cthulu is merely one of his works, though a good one, but is by far the most "graspable". Cthulu is easier to understand as a villainous force than say the sudden realization of a taint in your bloodline or the ability to dream "too far" opening your mind to sanity shattering vistas of thought. Cthulu has a cult which can be defeated, and he himself is put back to sleep after having his head dispersed from a head-on collision with a steam ship.
If you're not familiar with his works I highly recommend you give them a perusal. While he can be somewhat verbose at times in his descriptions his work is overall superb. I also strongly advise you read the works of his friend Robert E. Howard, of "Conan the Barbarian" fame. Howard is often credited as the father of "Sword&Sorcery" fiction and with good reason as while Tolkien's work is in creating a grand mythology Howard is the king of blood and steel pulp fantasy which has inspired every flight of medieval combat fantasy since before many of the authors and directors that still practice these tropes were born.
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fceacc No.16786625
>>16786581
>What then is the drawing power of Lovecraft?
Fear of the unknown, basically. That there are things hidden out there that are so terrifying and beyond human comprehension that you should never stir or look for them.
Lovecraft stories vary from cheese to eerie to pretty spooky. Do keep in mind, though, that some of these stories are a product of their time and, as such, aren't very scary nowadays so in some cases you really have to immerse yourself in some of them to find them scary. I'd say that "Reanimator" is a case of a cheesy story, but a pretty entertaining one.
I'd recommend you give "Call of Cthulhu" and "Rats in the Walls" a read just to get a taste of Lovecraft. If you are feeling lazy, give "Nyarlathotep" a read (it's about 2 or 3 pages long and gives you a good idea of why you should not mess with any of these eldritch entities).
Lovecraftian stories usually follow the same pattern. The main character(s) stumble into some forgotten/forbidden secret. Said secret reveals some eldritch truth about their origin, mankind and/or the universe and the cosmos as a whole and then the character has to live the rest of his miserable life wishing he had died instead of knowing all this.
The Great Old Ones (Cthulhu being one of them) are all alien monstrosities that do not care about mankind and will eventually devour everyone some day and probably won't even notice. There is no benevolent God to save mankind and it's not really a fight you can win as there are countless cults and cultists out there that want nothing more than to summon and worship these entities.
There is probably more to it than just this, but I haven't read Lovecraft in quiet a while so I'm sure some other anon can give you a better explanation of things.
Also, if reading is not your thing or you just feel like playing some Lovecraft themed vidya, give these a try:
>Call of Cthulhu - Dark Corners of the Earth
Full of bugs (courtesy of Bethesda) and it kind of goes downhill when you are given a weapon to fight, but it has a very solid start and great atmosphere and the people of Innsmouth look kinda funny.. and not in a good way.
>Persona 2 Duology
Hitler is the least of your worries, really. The bad guy also makes a very brief appearance in Persona 1, so you might want to play that one first.
>Koudelka and Shadow Hearts series
In Koudelka, 3 very different characters find themselves exploring a haunted monastery full of monsters. Shadow Hearts is the sequel and has a lot more eldritch stuff too.
>Bloodborne
You are not really going to be fighting werewolves for the rest of the game.
Keep in mind that Cthulhu in pop culture is usually pretty cancerous as most people think it's just a spooky green octopus om nom nom eat mankind iä iä cthlhu fhtagn or whatever. Also Lovecraft is racist so you should not like him reeeee! Ignore all that cancer and go read some eldritch horror.
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dc6b6b No.16786633
>>16786544
His representation isn't even how he looks like.
Lovecraft is all about shit you can barely imagine, powerful ancient gods that can shapeshift every microsecond and the such.
I hate how piss poor it's handled in most media so goddamned much.
It's not even very hard to do, you just need fluff and a good manner to handle and deliver it to.
It's why the first few hours of Dark Corners of the Earth are so good and then it becomes schlock.
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78b4bd No.16786665
>>16786633
So Cthulhu and the elder gods are closer to Tzeentch Daemons than anything else?
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4302bf No.16786670
>>16786625
I would like a story were the eldritch entities sleept for too long that humanity or what came form it evolved to something greater and threatening, something made of silicon, buffed genetics and sentinent nano-machinery networks, something in the scale of the game After The Empire (were humands ascended into an higher plane and for unknown reasons a pulse gave the leftover machines in the milky way a spul that gave them sentinence and just nano-seconds after that they decided to do a crusade aganist each other to impose their way of spiritual life across the entire galaxy, it's not even a normal war since they harm each other with cryptography).
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1f3a17 No.16786681
>>16786665
Yes. Yes it is. But Nyarlathotep is quiet close to Tzeentch if anything.
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f408b9 No.16786696
>>16786621
Thanks, just the answer I was looking for. Perhaps I will give Lovecraft a go.
>>16786625
I have played most of those games, the Shadow Hearts series being one of my favorites. When a subject starts getting cancerous and Cthulhu tattoos start appearing alongside name drops for culture cred, much like tri-force etc, it usually means easy digestible niche fare and was the reason I likely never bothered with Lovecraft. That said, the pattern is alluring and makes for good premises, though I suspect I will not like learning the new words for new Gods and places that only exist within these books.
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f27712 No.16786726
>>16786556
>Can I get a quick run down on Cthulhu's popularity?
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
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7d044d No.16786754
>>16786543
>They also had some RPG about a skeleton protagonist, can't remember the name off the top of me 'ead, though
Breath of Death VII
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802f81 No.16786770
>>16786696
>Perhaps I will give Lovecraft a go.
If you do I'd recommend starting either with The Shadow Out of Time or The Rats In The Walls.
https://youtu.be/-CAgu-IgJgs
https://youtu.be/kBiMYhA9cMY
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f408b9 No.16786772
>>16786770
thanks, will listen to both
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302088 No.16787362
>>16786556
You see Cthulu is normally depicted as a sexy squid monster and as such women would flock to the books so they could get themselves off on squid man porn. It's pretty much the "Shape of Water" of its time.
:^)
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000000 No.16787385
>>16786772
Aside from everything said by other anons, you have to take into account that Pedowood is failing on all it's fronts, so the currently push for Lovecraft to become mainstream is highly possible to be an artificial push, crafted by marketeers to try to make normalfags become more familiar with his works, and thus, transform them into cinema shit, as "the new big thing" in (((adapting))) literature into shitty movies. Since capeshit, Star Wars and everything else is failing, they want a new source of ideas to ruin and turn them into movies.
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b1512b No.16787412
>>16787385
Attempts at direct adaptations seem improbable given that Lovecraft's work is more tricky to adapt than, say, Howard's. Lovecraft was also decidedly wayciss, and in the Current Year Era that's double plus haram.
However, I can absolutely believe in the notion of them taking his work (Lovecraft is one of the better known horror fiction writers, after all) and doing "liberal reimaginings for modern times". In essense, portraying the horror and madness of the protagonist as the inevitable results of him being a bigoted straight white man of a bygone age, while a spunky team of diverse mystery meat genderfluids proves him wrong, shows him up, and achieves peace and harmony with the Old Ones through tolerance and acceptance and rainbow gay shit. Would be lovely if in the end the spunky team was revealed as just one of many brainwashed tools of the Old Ones, their vision of harmony was just an illusion masking the terror about that they'd been tricked into bringing, and the crazy man was right all along, but Hollywood wouldn't go for that, not even for the sake of oh so popular nowadays subversions of expectations.
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a2ce61 No.16787452
>>16787412
>The Old Ones are just a bunch of powerful elite kikes
Are you sure Lovecraft wasn't secretly writing a series of post-WW1 history books?
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df1eed No.16787480
I remember reading "The Call of Cthullu" after a few of his other stories and thinking; "That's it?". My favorite story of his, is "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath", it's the only story of his where i felt the horror people say you are "supposed" too feel from his works, at least temporarily.
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f408b9 No.16787483
>>16787412
>>16787385
Well, I listened to both audio books linked above. I was impressed with his use of back story to set the table, but it is a long reveal to the horror thru build up and suspense, which can be difficult to turn into film without assistance from music and other audio techniques. Personally, I did not find the things in which were meant to be scary all that scary. The unknown is a mystery to be solved after all. Anyways, thanks for the introduction to Lovecraft. I may listen to the Call of Chuthlu later to examine the titular character itself.
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802f81 No.16787694
>>16787385
>>16787412
We're already seeing this type of shit in vidya based off of Lovecraft's work.
In The Sinking City the Deep Ones are dindu nuffin refugees and the real cosmic horror is racism.
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94a79c No.16787845
>>16786544
That is a drawing of the idol that they got from a police raid on a Cthulhu cult not an image of Cthulhu himself, read the story before dribbling out a random thought
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09e4c1 No.16789604
I really want a game set in the lovecraft mythos but full of dark humor and tongue-in-cheek jokes instead of horror and doom.
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6d82ca No.16789631
>>16789604
OP already posted it.
>>16786543
I might actually play it, I do remember playing through Cthulhu Saves the World a number of years back and really liking it.
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ba2024 No.16789669
>>16787412
>and the crazy man was right all along
It's rare, but it does happen.
>girl is in a car and suddenly crashes
>girl wakes up in a bunker with some fat old white man
>he tells her, he rescued her, that there is an alien invasion and they have to stay together inside the bunker for two years
>another, younger dude also confirms it
>she thinks it's bullshit, and wants to escape
>manages to steal the old guy's keys, but as she escapes, she sees another woman trying to enter the bunker when a mysterious disease kills her
>decides to stay put with the old dude
>montage of them living together
>she finds out that the old dude had a daughter, but his story differs from the handsome young man's story
>she starts to panic, especially since the old white man does not consider her to be a woman, but a girl/princess/daugther, maybe he crashed into her car and locked her up
>she convinces the young man to rebel, he tries to steal the old man's gun, but fails and he shoots the young man which is normal, you don't just steal someone's gun, there needs to be an authority there after which he throws the body in a tank with acid to dissolve the body(don't want dead bodies polluting your isolated bunker and contaminating everything)
>he doesn't harm the girl, but she is even more afraid
>constructs a hazmat suit and manages to escape, after painfully killing the old white man I think they tripped the acid barrel, and he got dissolved by it, then shot by her
>she manages to escape but then she sees birds singing which means the old white man was lying
>BUT then she sees actual alien ships harvesting humans which means the old white man was telling the truth, all of this could have been avoided if she had just behaved.
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b9e3ee No.16789734
>>16789604
I’d love to see a cosmic horror sitcom. Take a show like The Big Bang Theory and inject some serious cosmic horror into that shit. I’d keep the canned laughter too; imagine the effect of hearing the fake audience laughter while something truly horrific is going on. I think that combination would make for an interesting experience.
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6bc941 No.16789769
>>16789669
Pretty good film, but she's kinda redeemed in the end by the movie, as in it was all worth it cause now she's going to fight with the resistance or something
>>16789734
Can't see the difference
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b9e3ee No.16789787
>>16789669
Threadly reminder that JewJew is a stealing hack.
>>16789769
>Can't see the difference
Touché! It would be nice if it was intentional though, and less grating.
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ba2024 No.16789908
>>16789604
>>16789734
Isn't that just Nyaruko: Crawling with Love, where the cosmic horrors take the shape of cute girls with the sole purpose of doing cute things? I haven't watched/read it
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b013cf No.16789922
>>16789908
Not really. That show drops any pretence of horror right after the opening scene and then lol they're actually all just space aliens who came here to play vidya and watch anime lmao. What a waste.
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b93dc0 No.16790206
>>16786665
The whole point of Lovecraft is that these beings are so powerful that their lowest minions are literally atoms to them and these said minions could brainfuck you to death.
But 90% of retard hipsters who have attached themselves to Lovecraft works like the leeches they are think it's "big spoopy powerful giant with squid head" completely missing the point of the whole concept of cosmic horror.
You know how Gaylo had a pretty decent concept of a parasitic hivemind in the first game and then completely raped that by giving it a leader that could speak?
It's kind of like that
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b93dc0 No.16790208
>>16786670
It's called 40K
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63f402 No.16790223
>>16789669
The fact the alien invasion was real all along made me dislike the ending to be honest.
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4cc2d9 No.16790236
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16786556
>what do you like about it
Dark ambience, I guess you'd call it. Vid related.
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70c46f No.16790273
>>16790206
I think people miss that lovecraft was living in a time where science was continuely proving humanity was insignificant. countless planets, limitless space, the earth is so very old and many beings have come and gone. He took the feeling of meaningless and added on beings that could eat you while reworking some of hermetics.
You have to go outside and look up into the night sky and imagine.
Mountains of Madness is my favorite but I like them all.
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edd635 No.16790294
>>16790273
These people don't read Lovecraft, it's a fucking meme, squiggly green tentacle monster and people going insane, it's like people that watch Foamy flash cartoons and miss the point.
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3a3cfd No.16790397
>>16790294
>>16790273
Confirm this, they don't fucking read Lovecraft.
The very few that do and still miss his point are fairly easy to pinpoint:
>dude, we should just nuke Cthulhu, LOL
>You hear about Niggerman? Yeah, H.P. was a fucking racist
>Rituals to summon the Old one's are so cool!
>I wanna be the Yith, lmao
Last one less so, because half of those fuckwits don't even know the Yith.
It upsets me because for instance, one of my favorite stories is the "Hunter in the Dark", a story about a guy that finds the Shinning Trapezohdron, looks into it and sees a fucking LOT of the universe. Knowledge he adquires and uses as inspiration to write a book he was working on. Yet, a shadowy being jumps from the place he found it one night, waiting for a time where no light shone and flew to his window, ripping his memory of it. And a lot of things along with it because fuck you, the Old One's don't fuck around: you got something that doesn't belong to you, fucker.
And if you simply skim that story, it's just a spoopy winged black creature going bump in the night. You actually have got to stop and think to realize "Holy shit, that was an Avatar of Nyarlathotep recovering knowledge that guy should not posse!
The amount of fuckwits that read that and didn't catch that near the end, the guy is slowly losing every single memory he had, one by one, slowly realizing that his thoughts are being sucked out of him until he fucking dies is staggering. It's just another monster, doing monster things, lmao, H.P. is weird like that, lmao.
Fuck all these fucking hipsters and their retarded fucking bullshit.
AND FUCK YOU MARK OR CODEMONKEY, OR WATHEVER TAWAINESE LADYBOY IS IN CHARGE NOW. I'M DRUNK, HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THIS CAPTCHA RIGHT?
I FUCKING DON'T.
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3a3cfd No.16790399
>>16786625
If you want to recomend a great story by Lovecraft (in my opiniom, his Magnum Opus), you can't go wrong with the "Dream Quest for Unknown Kadath".
For people who haven't read it however, I'd warn you: it's pretty fucking weird (in a good way) and you get more of it if you read "Pickman's Model" first (a very short story) and some other short story about some faggot that does a lot of opium to kill himself, ends up in the Dreamworld and trips out until he awakens. Last one, less so, but it features a couple of connections to the Dreamworld.
There's some other very short (2 pages) story about the cats. The cats are fucking amazing, and Dream Quest expands on them a fair bit.
Now THAT is a strange alien world I'd like to see in video games. Too bad "weird" sells like crapsticks nowadays, so we're shit out of luck!
Some other anon that's not drunk please link the other stories I mentioned, or at least post the name cause I can't, for the love of Whisky (blessed be his name) find them anywhere.
If I had to pick my favourite aspect from Lovecraft stories, it's the inherent corruption and degradation in them. A corruption that befalls greedy men who tried to commune with powers they do not understand and still choose to court in the chance they'll be spared the monstrous wrath they wrought in the world.
Hastur is the best of them all, and the story of Lost Carcossa still makes me shudder to this day.
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380668 No.16790420
>>16790273
I believe those people might be spoiled by other media, and their perception is warped as a result. Humanity's first attempts at space travel have sparked a load of pulp sci-fi works focusing on galactic empires or interstellar federations. Star Wars has humans squatting across the whole galaxy, effortlessly zooming around it; and yet the story (in the movies at least) is confined only to that galaxy alone, giving the illusion that there's nothing outside it, and that humans can reach anywhere that matters. After constantly consuming works like that, it's hard for those people to invest into the introspection on how infinitesimal the humanity can appear within the grand scape of Cosmos, or that something out there can render us hopelessly outmatched in every way, even knowledge. Meanwhile, a big guy with an octopus head who can be fought, even if not defeated, is much more digestible.
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ba2024 No.16790467
>>16790223
Well there were only two possible endings either the aliens were real or not. The fact that they were real meant that the old white man was right all along, which is rare for Hollywood. What didn't work was for her to go from a Becky to G.I. Jane who goes from city to city kicking alien ass, when realistically she would she just be used to make more babies, or to "comfort" the soldiers. What was also kinda off, was how they went from, "oh shit she is going to die, because of the poison", to "oh there is no poison, guess the old man was right", then immediately "oh shit there were aliens all along". You can't just through plot twist after plot twist like that, and I am using the term "plot twist" loosely here.
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965615 No.16790490
>>16790206
Bad comparison, the Gravemind actually makes sense because it isn't cosmic horror. Why wouldn't an advanced hivemind possess the ability to speak when it has robbed a significant portion of the galaxy's intelligence. Never understood this complaint.
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6d6133 No.16790512
>>16786625
Also there's
>Dead Space I
Which really is "The Colour Out of Space" plus jumpscares and spaceship.
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