/v/ - Video Games

>So, with Episode 9 turning Palpatine into a tranny-faggot that wins and has an incest relationship with Kylo

IX is shit but there's no reason to make false bait posts like this, just say that you want a Star Wars thread.

>tfw imperial commando never ever

>>16785344

>disney released a comic heavily implying he force-impregnated shmi

even if you ignore that that he wanted rey to kill him for whatever reason (probably to take over, since that was in dark empire and jarjar has ripped that off hard), it still leaves at least incest and sheev winning.

>>16785347

Sheev doesn't take over her body, he just sucks her life force and there's no incest.

>>16785344

Apparently Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter, and Palpatine takes over Rey's body. I have no idea how true the rest of it is though.

>>16785350

Best thing about the prequels is how lightsaber duels were acrobatic. Also how the prequels opened up a lot of stories for the expanded universe.

>>16785372

I think they're genuinely interested, in the kylo rey ship though, which is a different thing than actually being interested in the films

>>16785372

I believe this was a private showing bought by a group of "Renlo" chicks.

>>16785367

They may be annoying but they're right, Kylo and her parents not showing is the biggest fuck you imaginable.

>>16785387

>not even lego

>>16785390

Oh Jar Jar lego porn would have been way better, but never ran into that.

>>16785392

An offical 'LEGO Star Wars Minifigure - Jar Jar' is the low price of 21$ idk how much it's going to be after factoring in production costs, extra casting and filming equipment.

>>16785393

It's dagapuff actually. You can tell because there isn't someone on the brink of death trying to eat out a fat ass.

>>16785402

There's also actual shading and texture work.

>>16785368

The worst part about the historical revisionism of the prequels now being considered good is that 10-15 years from now older zoomers will be saying that the sequel trilogy was good and that only plebs hated it.

>>16785405

>zoomers

Get out!

>>16785417

>and thinking the Mandalorian is good.

What is the big deal about that show anyway?

>>16785419

Not Boba Fett plays pretend dad to Baby Yoda.

>>16785360

I thought the Emperor was demanding Luke kill his father, Vader?

>>16785451

This clip is clearly The Emperor baiting Luke into wanting to kill him so he'd give into the Dark side, but the out come the Emperor wanted was for Luke to Kill Vader and take his place.

>>16785340

Star Wars was never good.

>>16785419

Who knows, the only two goys got killed pretty quickly, the rest are spics skitskins or kikes.

>>16785507

>That being said, is The Force Unleashed a quality game?

From what I heard, it's a descent action-adventure game on par with others of the 7th generation. You may have fun, but don't expect to blow your socks off.

>Same goes for it's sequel.

For some reason, people didn't seem all that impressed with it.

>>16785507

At the time of release Force Unleashed 1 was hype as hell, Now looking back on it, it shows it's age, it doesn't hold up as well as a Devil May Cry or classic God of War game, but it's still perfectly enjoyable to mess with all of the OP Force Powers, and you can definitely see the effort put into the game, stuff like how Storm troopers will hang onto railings or each other when your grabbing them with the force. The main campain areas are cool to explore, and the DLC has some fun "What if…" stuff.

The main flaw would be that the harder difficulties it can usually boil down to finding the best way to exploit the mechanics for an easier win, rather then proper skillful strategy.

Force Unleashed 2 is just kind of the first game, but worse in all areas, Bosses were given really Chunky life bars that just pad out the fights. Still it's might be worth playing at least once, just too see the ending that sets up events that never get resolved.

>>16785507

>TFA

If you like JK series, you'll be disappointed. The lightsaber feels like a nerf bat. Instead of wallruns and cool spins there's just basic shit like double jump and air dash. Fewer force powers.

But some hilariously retarded shit like pulling a Star Destroyer out of the sky with force pull.

Juno a cute though.

>TFA2

Same shit but way less of it. It's like four hours long with not much memorable about it.

>>16785519

I meant TFU

>>16785507

>That being said, is The Force Unleashed a quality game?

It's a poor man's god of war.

>>16785522

Every western action game was a poor mans God of War during that gen, that kind of goes without saying.

>>16785524

Doesn't that just make them more worthless? GoW is about a bald nigger killing uninspired Greek mythology and fucking women offscreen while tapping a button prompt playing Simon Says to kill bosses, it's not exactly something to strive for.

>>16785528

Even if everyone was copying the trends GoW set during that gen, the over all end result is what matters.

Force Unleashed is still worth playing if you want to see and use the over the top Force powers, and indulge in that kid fantasy of being edgy and OP.

X-men Origin's Wolverine also copied God of War's tends, but you could tell the devs still cared despite that, and end result was that the gameplay was far better then previous attempts of Wolverine as a playable character.

Both of those games are more memorable then something like Dante's inferno that just copied God of War's gameplay verbatim.

>>16785542

At least Wolverine Origins tried, Force Unleashed is more of a straight up a clone and suffers from it.

How is that recent game? The one with the ginger MC that looks like they have fetal alcohol syndrome.

>>16785367

I really hate how whenever a group of people are riffing on something it becomes a game of who can yell swear words the loudest. It just comes off as utterly fake.

>>16785375

>>16785564

Was Dark Forces 2 really that hard to get working? I remember just pirating the GoG release and it working out of the box no biggie.

>>16785564

It's an unintuitive as hell, but it works. PC gaming wiki is actually useful https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Jedi_Knight_-_Dark_Forces_II

You'll want the current release of this mod here

https://github.com/jdmclark/jkgfxmod/releases

and follow the installation instructions here

https://github.com/jdmclark/jkgfxmod/blob/master/doc/install.md

It's not hard just a bit tedious

If you have the version 1.1 exe then you need to downgrade it to the 1.0 exe which you can get here

http://www.jkhub.net/project/show.php?projid=511&section=downloads

or you can use the unofficial patch here apparently, I didn't. but the previous link doesn't have the 1.0 for the expansion Mystery of the Sith

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/986-jedi-knight-df2-mots-pre-patched-unofficial-patches/

I tracked down the 1.0 for the expansion on some shady website I didn't even check the name of, and tracked down a no cd crack the same way, if I looked at things more clearly I probably just would have used the Unoffical patch, but it eh… it worked out.

>>16785570

Dark Forces 2 is apparently a crap shoot on modern computers, It will randomly work on some PC's but not others. I couldn't get it to work for 5 years ago, and then 2 days ago after I finally fixed it, the game works fine on my friends PC without him needing to change anything.

>>16785570

>How is that recent game? The one with the ginger MC that looks like they have fetal alcohol syndrome.

Fallen Order? Haven't actually played it myself, but what I've seen of it looked like bootleg soleslike™ with some metroidvania elements (getting new tools to reach previously inaccessible parts of the maps) and a SW coat of paint. It even had not-bonfires. The combat looked passable, but nothing particularly enticing. Some setpieces, like the one with the big avian creature on Dathomir, were OK. The story was meh (Empire bad. #resist) and ended on a whimper. He just wrecks the McGuffin, invalidating the whole point of the journey.

Best character was Vader cameo

>>16785583

>Vader Cameo

Is Vader the only character Disney has to whore out during the OT/PT era?

>>16785570

Pirated it and beat and never again. Game is too unresponsive for a damn "souls like" The character moves too slow and his force power animations take even longer and they're weak as shit but that makes sense since he is basically a padawan still. The story was passable up until the ending which was basically "Wow! it's fucking nothing". I liked the idea of going single and double saber but the way the game is you dont feel like a jedi at all, the lightsabers are the equivalent of having a blunt weapon they should have just giving you a blaster and stun baton and the game would have been so much better.

>>16785464

Return of the Jedi

>Luke puts his life on the line to redeem his father because he knows it's wrong to kill your family.

The Rise of Skywalker

>Rey kills her grandfather in cold blood.

Great message to send people there Disney!

>>16785596

That's not as bad as in The Last Jedi where the start of the events of the whole trilogy is Luke having premonitions that Ben will go to the Dark side, and his first action is to consider killing him in his sleep, only for then the end of Luke's Arc right before he dies is him pretty much him thinking "I should have just killed you when I had the chance"

>>16785593

>they just let someone kill off the main villain in the middle of a trilogy without any fucking plan as to what was going to happen after that.

I honestly wonder what brilliant thinking was going through Johnson's head when he decided to almost single-handedly crash the then SECOND biggest franchise on the planet: archive.ph/CDT4x

Since then, the series has dropped down to fifth, behind Hello Kitty and Winnie the Pooh: archive.ph/pdMI9

>>16785618

Wait, her name is seriously Rey Mixer? I thought that was a fucking meme.

>>16785620

I'd respect him if he did it just to fuck everything over because he wanted to see if he could.

But it's clear he legitimately thinks

>who is ray?

<she's nobody

>where didn't Snoke come from?

<he's dead now that's were he came from

>what has Luke been doing that he needed to hide a map to his location?

<waiting to die alone

>no one would ever expect these set up plot points to lead to fucking nothing

Was good writing that challenges the people who where expected plot points to lead somewhere.

>>16785631

Its a logical conclusion if you ignore context and take what critics and such spit out.

Subversion is good so do it as much as you can. Spectacle is good so it must be better than logic right? It can be sacrificed for the film, meshing well with what came before in this established series doesn't matter.

Context doesn't matter too much, just shove scenes in ignoring it.

If you act like a lobotomized chimp then his way makes sense, just don't think. His views are very superficial.

Its very obvious if you look at how it acts about it was always the case and the early delusions were from people not paying attention to the actual person and putting a "logical" reason to it. it was also done as shitposting a good chunk of the time but thats beside the point.

Honestly TLJ never struck me as deliberately bad, in any fashion; it just looked like an insane cluster of the garbage that infested hollywood shite, even without looking into the person i thought it was clear reaching to think it was a giant shitpost.

I need to legitimately ask. Is there incest in Episode 9.

>>16785399

There will never be again an era were overcomplex "flight sims" are the top notch of computer gaming.

>>16785647

She's not actually related to the Skywalkers, she took the name.

>>16785667

He's relying on the "sheev is anakins father" thing that a recentish comic basically stated.

>>16785483

Its not reliant on her "being a skywalker" but anakin and his descendants being Palpatines alongside their normal heritage.

Its all reliant on how force impregnate works, a skill that will probably never be brought up again

>>16785669

>Its all reliant on how force impregnate works, a skill that will probably never be brought up again

Looking at the picture anon posted he's not actually impregnating her since she seems to already be pregnant. He's just customizing the fetus a bit. Force impregnate would be a creampie via force teleporting his semen directly into her.

Actually this made me think of a stupid argument to have.

Let us say that in utero genetic engineering becomes commonplace and easy to do. Is the engineer that makes custom changes to your child also, in a sense, that child's parent as he had a hand in shaping their genes? I would say no to this because he is not making authoritative changes to the child's genes, but instead a skill proxy for the parents. Very simple. Now what if you pull a Sheev and Force your way right into a woman's uterus to make unsolicited changes as you see fit? Sure, you're not contributing actual genetic material, but the child will nonetheless be a product of you, the father, and the mother.

Disney Star Wars is literally all fan fiction.

>>16785685

that would imply that the people working on it are fans. Clearly they are not

>>16785694

Clearly they're fans of money.

>>16785340

>let's talk about the series back when it was good.

A futile endeavour unless Mark bans everyone who pretends Star Wars went on after '83. Disney shits its diarrhea all over the franchise just too much.

>>16785726

I hope you realize nobody in their right mind actually takes the majority of yidsney stuff seriously right? outside of like one novelwhich was intended for pre-disney anyway. Its basically treated as being in a bubble.

There is zero reason to forcefully ignore good shitposting material, nobody is going to inject it into unrelated things.

>>16785724

>they're fans of money.

>driving one of the biggest brands in the world that sold for years on name alone into the ground in just 5 years

>>16785676

we don't know because disney had to go and retcon shit that was perfectly fine before. remember when people were shitting on lucas constantly doing exactly that?

why even change it in the first place?

>>16785763

>driving one of the biggest brands in the world that sold for years on name alone into the ground in just 5 years

Thats incompetence, not lack of desire to use it for money. They wanted to have their cake and eat it, put in poz(and thus radically warp the brand) while getting the usual star wars money.

The side materials didn't crash their main money maker, TLJ did.

>why even change it in the first place?

To be fair Anakins birth wasn't actually very specific, he's never mentioned to have a father or anything right. Can't retcon something that was never stated.

I have a feeling it was pulling from the Plagueis novel, but missed the part where he wasn't directly created by the Sith. And the Plagueis novel is non-canon in yidsney land anyway i'm pretty sure.

>>16785647

If that's the actual family tree, Rey is 5 degrees away from Kylo and past 4 you're mostly safe from genetic problems, so it's not that bad.

What gets me is the need to make Anakin the son of Palpatine. What fucking purpose does that even serve? He didn't need to be related to Sheev in order to explain why he turned to the Dark Side, he did it because he wanted to revive his parents and necromancy is part of the cool kids club on the edgy side of the Force. Couple that with his loss of Padme afterwards and you have a solid emotionally unstable character that makes perfect sense he'd actually join the Dark Side.

>>16785771

>That's incompetence

Niche opinion here, but I think that's just exactly this and nothing else.

It's not greed or wanting to politically charge their movies, it's just that Hollywood is staffed by the biggest short bus you've ever seen at this point.

There have always been greedy directors\publishers\etc, they just knew what to do if they actually wanted money.

There have always been crazy hacks that want to inject their own political message in movies, they just knew how to make something appealing that actually makes you enjoy being indoctrinated by them.

But for a while now, there's nothing but dumb faggots that live in a bubble over Twitter who have no skill or ability to neither make money or propaganda but are told otherwise with all the dumb trophies they award each other and the circlejerking in the communities they visit.

Consider that Romantic Comedies used to be the lowest form of entertainment you could make since they were formulaic with very basic characters and the same plot repeated in every movie.

And yet go compare your average romcom from 5 years ago with any of the shit that's released today and it will seem like a well crafted masterpiece.

I'm even convinced that all the faggot shit they insert into the movies isn't even part of any agenda. It's just basic bitch pandering that they think will endear the public to them and help make the movie more successful. The lesbian kiss in Star Wars only shows up in the end, where critics will likely not even see it and it's there in a "feel good" moment. It's token as fuck and if they wanted to carry an agenda at all, they've have carried on with Finn\Rose romance, but they never even TOUCH each other for fear of the Chinese wrath.

There's no agenda or greed. There's just a bunch of inept crazy hacks that truly believed they were good at making movies and a very large mob around them repeating it to.

Fortunately, it seems we are nearing the end of this circus act.

>>16785847

Neat take, but I disagree with a few points

>Romcoms

I think they were shit back then and are still equally as shit now.

>There's no agenda or greed

I see it as the opposite. For I believe JJ explicitly stated he really wanted a "diverse"(I think he wanted an all asian cast?) Star Wars and Kathleen Kennedy's views are clear and it doesn't help that she's probably a control freak considering how both the side movies Rogue One and Solo got their directors fucked halfway through production.

I think there was always an agenda or greed, but it has exceeded the point of sanity. You're correct on them being inept crazy hacks that truly believe they are good at making movies, the different is the large mob repeating it to is now just a vocal minority(if the sales of the recent movies are anything to go by) screeching their asses out while said hacks think insulting your audience is a good idea.

>>16785507

>The Force Unleashed

It's not fantastic but it's very enjoyable fan service.

>>16785507

>The Force Unleashed

It's a movie-game. It looks good, the troopers grab onto things when held in air but the game runs at 20-30fps and you just walk through pipe levels killing everything. Controls are shit too if I remember correctly.

It's one of those games that are no different when watching a let's play of them on youtube.

Totally not worth playing.

>I've heard a few [normalfag] friends say good things

Self explanatory.

>>16785898

There's a 60fps fix. And it's also not a movie game.

>>16785903

>And it's also not a movie game.

You Americans act like the word is patented.

I mean it in the sense that playing it feels like watching a movie.

You don't have to think. Everything is enacted for you.

>>16785931

Use a better archive site:

http://archive.ph/qBIAt

http://archive.ph/23Icv

http://archive.ph/gU2pS

>>16785933

I just used the ones from the post, too lazy to get other ones.

The best thing to come out of star wars was ahsoka now let me fuck her ass already

>>16785927

>You don't have to think. Everything is enacted for you.

Are you implying there's no gameplay? Call me retarded but what you're saying is akin to

>this game doesn't let me choose what to do so it's a movie

>>16785927

I'm not American and why is TFU a movie game? There really aren't that many cutscenes.

>>16785965

>once in a while we'd have the entire 501st run a train on her

someone fund a entire hentai production for this. I want at least a 5 episodes.

>>16785970

>why is TFU a movie game?

Everything's a movie game now didn't you know

>>16785965

>Wanting to stick your dick where the entire 501st has been, not to mention pirates, slavers, and Anakin

Ergh

>>16785872

>I think they were shit back then and are still equally as shit now.

Didn't said they ever were or are good. Romcoms are still trashy chick flicks but they're still well made and entertain their target audience quite well. One of the benefits of following a formula is that you really can't fuck up too much at the cost of becoming stale, after all.

They were and still are about an absolutely bland girl getting the attention of some rich playboy and living the fantasy of a romantic life with a fall off 2/3 into the movie and a resolution that ends in a kiss in the end.

Now compare that to sci-fi movies, for instance. They used to be about exploring alien worlds and civilizations with their core idea being basically "what if" and running with the most exotic and weird concepts you could think of.

What are they now? Action movies, but in space and with some drama to pretend there's any depth to it. Same shit that happened to Star Wars is happening to Doctor Who and Star Trek, it's writers simply cannot write an interesting scenario to save their lives, so naturally everything the characters do will be bland shit.

>JJ explicitly stated he really wanted a "diverse"(I think he wanted an all asian cast?) Star Wars and Kathleen Kennedy's views are clear and it doesn't help that she's probably a control freak

I get your point, and you're correct but actually it's Ryan Johnson. He hired Rose Tycho by flipping a bunch of CVs and taking in the first asian that popped up, not even kidding. Kathleen Kennedy is probably the same shit but with feminism instead.

My idea still stands however. There have always been crazy hacks that wanted to push their agendas into movies, but they were smart enough to know that getting fired or going bankrupt doesn't help with that goal, nor does it help to make something so bland and obvious that nobody falls for it.

Compare in one of the latest Pixar movies where some map in a wall shows Indonesia (or some other shithole island) as being part of China like they always wanted. It was a lot more subtle and did not really harm the movie, just caused a few complaints on twitter but otherwise the movie was still the same quality that they make. Which is far more subtle than shoehorning some interracial romance in a critical part of the movie or even having a lesbian kiss at the end of it.

I wouldn't even mind the agenda, I'm not dumb enough to fall for it anyway, if it didn't ruin the entire movie and the only thing that gives me mirth here is knowing that they have shot themselves in both foots with the first two movies and this one was an headshot.

>>16785903

>There's a 60fps fix.

And you still only get like 40 fps maximum because of it's shit performance.

>>16785970

>There really aren't that many cutscenes.

The game feels like watching a cutscene.

>>16785971

>Everything's a movie game now didn't you know

You fags know what I mean.

You have to solve child puzzles and kill the enemies in the pipe level.

Exactly like in those LEGO games. It's not what I call very interactive.

The puzzles are always the same and very minimalist. Like "use force to throw explosive at thing that seems to be breakable"

At the bottom line it's a LEGO game without LEGO. If you ever played one of those you know exactly what I mean.

>>16786004

>At the bottom line it's a LEGO game without LEGO. If you ever played one of those you know exactly what I mean.

Juvenile shovelware with the draw being legos?

>>16786005

And sometimes humor and charm.

I completely forgot that lego games have a graphics menu!

The force unleashed doesn't.

>>16786008

So legos?

Found what I was referencing although the source is down.

>The Force Unleashed is intended to make players think they are "actually, finally, in a Star Wars movie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed

Now tell me again that it's not a movie game.

>>16786004

>At the bottom line it's a LEGO game without LEGO. If you ever played one of those you know exactly what I mean

I know what you mean but it's an action game, unlike lego games where death means nothing other than coin loss in majority of action games have you go back to the checkpoint or your previous save.

>You have to solve child puzzles and kill the enemies in the pipe level.

Surely this point of view now makes the majority of games movie games.

>playing morrowind

>kill the enemies and solve this puzzle where you click a button a couple times

Maybe I'm just being retarded but I honestly don't understand.

>>16786013

>The force unleashed doesn't.

To be fair, it's a god awful port for a mediocre psp game.

>>16786016

>>The Force Unleashed is intended to make players think they are "actually, finally, in a Star Wars movie".

Well, I mean unlike what leftypol would have you know disputing facts is usually a waste of time so yes I guess you're right. I'll concede that.

>>16786017

>have you go back to the checkpoint

If I remember correctly it was just the checkpoint

>playing morrowind

O Todd ;)

>Surely this point of view now makes the majority of games movie games.

The majority of games has graphic settings and doesn't force a "directors vision" onto you.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's not like everyone in the world hates movies or casual games.

It was just too casual for me.

>>16785343

Aparently 'supreme leader snoke' was a disgusting test tube golem. This is implied by some floating snoke heads that appear in Palpaltine's lair or something like that. Snoke was a discount palpatine and should have never existed, like the sequels themselves, but even so I feel that he is made worse by this addition.

Also, unless if Palpatine actually put one of his sperms in Anakin's mother, it is not literal incest.

>>16786070

>>16786069

We win, goy. We always win

>>16786003

>Romcoms

Fair enough.

>Sc-fi movies for instance

Completely agree. I really wished any of the recent SW movies would focus on a slicer or some non-combatant so you can see the worlds and factions in a different light and it's such a disappointment, even moreso when you consider how barren the worldbuilding in the Sequel trilogy is like.

>Agendas

I see agendas as an extension of an idea, it can be done either terribly or well, and like you said I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to change their thinking entirely because some movie portrayed a concept as good or bad. The problem is that it's currently done so poorly it's not done in service of the story(Think a story about PoW camps and an anti-war agenda) or world building(think Abe's Oddssey and an anti-industrialism message), it's not a trait of a character in order to provide contrast to another character or the world, it's simply this omnipotent "this good, please clap because I think it's good" or "this bad, please clap because I think it's bad".(Think the portrayal of racism or nazis in any media) In other words its done solely for reasons outside of quality.

What lesbian kiss are you talking about? Are you thinking of Avatar's Korra by mistake?

I will say just because you can't be influenced media doesn't mean others are the same, especially children. Imagine a bunch of children being influenced by the retarded messages in the casino planet. Animals captured bad! Release them and everything will be good! If you dislike something or someone just break their shit and they'll stop being bad!

>>16786023

Not really what I wanted out of Phasma and Rey.

>>16786248

>I will say just because you can't be influenced media doesn't mean others are the same, especially children.

And, watch as those kids fail in school when they use Yoda and Spock as credible sources for a quote.

I will admit that I do find some inspiration material in media in the way of "I never thought about it that way before" or "That's a great way of summarizing it", but another thing about media is that it's only as "deep" as you are. For example, one of my favorite childhood films is Dragonheart, and, growing up, I didn't really pay attention to anything in the film much deeper than just the "evil king" and the companionship between Bowen and Draco. Watching it recently, then it finally dawns on me about how Bowen was a romantic, wanting to live in a time and a world that is long dead and having to come to terms with the fact that he, himself is the only one that can make the world he romanticized about.

Two strategy related questions

>How's the Empire at War mod Galactic Civil War, since I seem to have misplaced my Empire at War disc and I can't be arsed to pirate it unless the mod is good

>Are the Star Wars Total Conversion packs for XCOM 2 worth playing or are they just shit visual overhauls and nothing else?

>>16785573

Good shit, man. I've still got to get around to playing that and Mysteries of the Sith.

>>16786248

>What lesbian kiss are you talking about? Are you thinking of Avatar's Korra by mistake?

In the ending of the movie, when everyone's back at the rebel makeshift base, everyone's celebrating and what not. There's plenty of people hugging each other and at one point there's 2 women kissing. You could just google "rise of skywalker lesbian kiss" and you're likely to find it since it's entire purpose was to be found by LGBT morons later on anyway.

It doesn't even bother me as much as the guy hugging some space slug alien simply because they clearly went overboard with the aliens in this movie since everyone complained about the lack of them in the previous 2 movies. It's token as fuck and aliens are mostly props or potential toys instead of characters.

>just because you can't be influenced media doesn't mean others are the same, especially children

Everyone always uses children as an example for this with good reason because kids are dumb and you can easily convince them of the dumbest shit. This is never a problem because they are supposed to have parents and role models that put some sense in their head and part of growing up is learning to discern what's fantasy from reality. Of course, if you're still mentally a kid by the time you're 30, then communism being viable follows logically to you.

>>16786350

That's the thing that I like in media when it's present, when it gives you a new perspective over some topic that you never though before. You might not even agree with it, but you'll understand why someone would do things that way or what the price of a decision actually is.

It's not even that hard, all it takes is putting characters in a dilemma and show why everyone chooses different solutions to solve it.

It makes perfect sense that you never get any of that from the current Hollywood cast because they are completely incapable of considering any other point of view.

This is also one of the reasons I don't believe the Right would make good media as well.

>>16786449

>This is also one of the reasons I don't believe the Right would make good media as well.

Yeah. Good that I'm a socialist — a national socialist.

>>16786453

>when the communists ask if you're a socialist

>>16786455

It's not wrong. Socialism is a broad term. Broader than what wikipedia claims.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/06/17/report-kim-jong-un-handing-out-copies-of-mein-kampf-to-senior-north-korean-officials/

NSDAP is national socialist German workers party

>>16786095

Wishful thinking You always lose. We always murder your kind.

You lost. Again.

>>16786449

>This is never a problem because they are supposed to have parents and role models that put some sense in their head and part of growing up is learning to discern what's fantasy from reality.

They're supposed to. Whether or not they actually have them and don't park them in front of a tablet, PC or TV and call it parenting is another thing.

Bigger mary sue, Starkiller or Rey?

>>16788299

Starkiller gets his ass handed to him by Sheev though.

>>16786468

The Nazis were so socialist, every single prominent left-winger in the party as well as all the Red Prussians like von Schleicher were dead or in exile by 1934 and the German industrialists were laughing all the to bank until 1945.

>>16788466

>Is it worth a pirate?

Certainly. Kotor 1 is ok, Kotor 2 is good. Make sure you try 2 if you give up on the first one.

>>16788466

Both games are worth playing and yeah, better off to pirate them since the steam version of KoToR 2 has a an update that fucks with some mods mostly with the restored content mod. Also,

>pulling down a fucking Star Destroyer

>beats Vader(twice) and still had enough energy to fight the pope

That's why Starkiller was usually considered a mary sue before Rey was invented. Damn shame they never made a FU3 really wanted to see how Vader escapes and how he deals with his evil clone

>>16788583

> KoToR 2

So shit I stopped playing even through I was at the end.

Don't recommend this garbage to anyone.

I also wouldn't recommend any Mass Effects after ME1.

>>16788583

>Also,

>>pulling down a fucking Star Destroyer

>>beats Vader(twice) and still had enough energy to fight the pope

>That's why Starkiller was usually considered a mary sue before Rey was invented.

But, again, the guy was trained by Vader since childhood. Rey managed to become a "master" in under a few years. Meanwhile, Luke was still struggling and limited after five years.

>>16788586

>likes kotor 2 with muslims, nuns, no real romance, faggotry, kreia etc.

Kill yourself.

>>16788586

>while characters will actually properly react to you saving or setting kittens on fire

Those side missions character judgements don't matter at all to the game and I can still clearly remember playing Kotor 1 and most of its scenes which were memorable while the only think that comes to my mind when thinking of kotor 2 is clearing dungeons over and over.

And the muslim blind bitch having scars because she was treated badly. Who would have thought?

>>16788592

>muslims

?

>nuns

Hand maiden isn't a nun you retard

>no real romance

play mass effect then nigger.

>faggotry

none that I recall

>kreia

I used to hate when kreia disliked my random murders too, but then I grew up.

>>16788595

I'm talking about the influence system. It's not perfect but it's more than kotor 1 where people pretend to be angry at you with literally no consequence until the climax.

>>16788466

I think of Kotor 2 as the NGE of Starwars, in that they are both to a damning critique of the existing tropes and fan expectations for Mecha Anime/Starwars.

They simultaneously treat their subject matter with respect but also illustrate the major flaws that plague them and creates a more cohesive vision of the the subject matter.

If you flip your shit whenever people even allude to any flaws in the pre-prequal starwars world building then you are going to have a bad time, but if you are fine with thinking critically of Starwars's world building then you may find some value in the game.

>>16788628

It's not like she's been tortured into being a literal door mat or something, it's not like she's part of the the entire games point of deconstructing George Lucas' BLUE MAN GOOD, RED MAN BAD, disney villain shit. Which honestly falls a little flat when the semi final sith antagonist is basically a disney villain.

>>16788634

Yeah that's why 1 is good and to is dogshit.

*2

>>16788634

>It's not like she's been tortured into being a literal door mat or something

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx

>>16788640

It was the best game bioware made.

Mass Effect comes close but the first one doesn't finish the story.

>>16788644

That's the cheap backstory they make up as an excuse.

Like when they show you the kebab restaurants irl, you fucking nigger.

We even have Mexican fast food here in Germany, amerimutt.

Where's my wall to America? Build it!

>>16788657

Fuck off, EA shill.

>>16788657

The first ME was first published by Microsoft Game Studios not EA.

And EA was the downfall.

I'll build a wall so high the planes won't cross it!

There is a lot that could have been done better but KOTOR2 solves non of it. You still have the blue red bar.

In fact people now judge you on it. Makes it even more of a linear experience.

>>16788662

this but unironically

>>16788668

>but unironically

>implying

I mean

>implying I want your Mexicans

Jim fix your fucking site. god damn it.

>>16785590

>The resistance is so understaffed that it employs NIGGERS

>>16788619

>The light/dark system very clearly was designed in kotor 1 for the player to fully invest into and thus pick the extremes just for the purpose of the points. Kreia challenges the player to actually fucking think rather than just mindlessly pick the good or bad option because they want those light/dark side points, she'll openly support actions of either alignment if you're more tactful than the light/dark side points system encourages, she wants you be better than a generic RPG murder hobo.

Too bad that the game punishes you to actually balance your "morality" in game, and you either go full DS or LS. In my playthrough the masters attacked me because I killed one of them and I killed one of them because the retard attacked me for siding with the general on Onderon, and then Kreia shit-talked me like I was a murderhobo on purpose, which wasn't the case.

Still can't get over that Kreia betrays you no matter what you do. They could've made Atris become Traya, she's a bitch since the start.

>>16788628

You're legitimately retarded.

>>16788634

>semi final sith antagonist is basically a disney villain.

Nihilus isn't a disney villain, if anything he's a SW Sauron.

>>16789150

>punishes you for actually balancing*

>>16789150

>Too bad that the game punishes you to actually balance your "morality" in game, and you either go full DS or LS.

that's basically bioware "choice" in a nutshell. you have 2 options, goody two-shoes or joker in a nazi uniform. not to mention the consequence of that choice only makes a difference till the dialog is over or none at all.

>>16785647

Wait, so does that mean Leia and Rey are cousins? The age difference between them is ridiculous, who the fuck comes up with this shit.

>>16789322

That's been Obsidian's excuse at least twice, and iirc the second time with New Vegas, they only gained a verbal agreement for more time to develop the game. To be so irresponsible (and perhaps naive) as to think a "verbal agreement" is good enough makes me think their own management was the other limiting factor on them making good games.

>>16789317

>The jedi use The Force and The Force itself is female

So females are just objects to be used?

>>16789473

>their own management was the other limiting factor on them making good games.

After Avellone broke away from Obsidian, he hinted that Urquhart and other higher ups were inept at management.

>I’m not bitter about this because that simply was the norm. I did not have time to work on both projects, but that is a failure of upper management and scheduling/double-timing two projects.

>it just was something that I knew the team would pay for and it wouldn’t be given back, which turned out to be the case because again, that was the norm.

>I do feel upper management at Obsidian has serious flaws that need to be addressed, and I stand by that statement.

http://archive.md/4to6b post #183

Given how Obsidian's games typically appear rushed or botched in one way or another, his words seem believable.

>>16789482

Blame Kathleen Kennedy's internalized misogyny for those unfortunate implications.

>>16789557

>post #183

184

>>16789473

>>16789557

Now this makes me think that the reason a lot of Obsidian games end up being very linear in nature is likely because they have little time for other branching paths at all, not just a matter of that being their formula.

New Vegas is a good example here where you can still see the "exposition tour" that Obsidian always dumps in their games with the initual U-Turn you're supposed to take before reaching Vegas despite the game being an open-world. There are indeed ways that you can just cut straight there, but they are much less detailed and look more like quick fixes to allow for that kind of decision rather than actual viable sensible paths you could feasible do on your first play through.

It puts into perspective the Legion side since it was said they ran out of time to do proper content for them, which is why they come across so irredeemable. However, if this is how Obsidian is, then you could just assume that they'll always cut content to meet deadlines.

>>16789482

>the force is some mega slut who gets gangbanged by all these force users, male and females

>and likes it

Holy shit.

>>16785343

No way this real.

>>16789726

Is this really an official star wars thing?

Have I already mentioned that Handmaiden looks like some lesbian slut with her short hair?

No, I probably haven't.

I bet she was uglified on purpose.

>>16789825

I sure hope it's not. Who the hell is in that comic, even?

>>16789832

>for the darker skin on her game model.

are you fucking kidding me

>>16789832

>I hate fourth wall breaks and paperwork jokes too. And I don't like big talkers either

Sounds like a problem with you, not the game.

>Sounds like a problem with you, not the game.

No I don't like your shitty /tv/ grade humour.

>are you fucking kidding me

No, I'm not. Unlike her you got some eyeballs and don't need a badly attached blindfold that lets all the dirt in the air in through the bottom.

>>16789843

>the last defense of kotor2 faggots

>>16789847

>I am leaning towards you being a troll though

>my waifu can't be muslim propaganda

t. meatbag in denial

>>16789825

Yep. It's made by the guy who did the "Chief O'brien at work" panel. The whole thing doesn't look or feel like a Star Wars comic, it's just there to turn Porkins and Wedge into childish fags.

>>16789866

Aside from those not being muslims they are also not dark skinned

In case anyone is interested in replaying KoTOR:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-sith-lords-restored-content-mod-tslrcm/downloads/tslrcm-183

Restores/'fixes' the ending through additions of what was cut with no droid planet

Also, fuck the fucking captcha

>>16790376

I was interested in how something like this mod actually gets made. I found embed related is a decent video recapping the history of the project.

>>16790385

I remember there was a lot of retarded drama involving the community around these mods, and it looked like it was never getting finished at one point.

>>16790388

I should have said: a lot of drama involving the team that were allegedly working on restoring the content, but never releasing anything (team gizka I think). When the restored content mod came out, it was huge.

This is proably autistic as hell but, what Disney is doing to starwars legitimately depresses me,like im not crying over it but its just like what even are these new films and the way they just sort of threw 30+ years of extended canon in the trash its just so fucking dumb.

>>16790413

All fans of space operas should head to /trek/ and just make it a general sci-fi board. Would love to talk about shows like Babylon 5, Farscape and Battlestar Galactica but there is no way boards dedicated to just those shows would have a decent amount of traffic.

>>16790421

>/trek/

I meant /strek/

Is that Empire At War remake worth checking out?

>>16790413

/sw/ is on julay though

>>16790423

while I may not have much of a connection to star wars as others since the series was mostly about the vidya/clone wars for me, I'll say it's even more disgusting that with nearly a decade of locking down the IP all EA can shit out is a couple of mockeries of what Dice used to do well and a garbage souls-clone complete with its own single digit FPS blighttown area and light sabers that swing around like bats.

Star Wars: XCOM when? Imperial Commando when? A new game that rivals the lightsaber combat of Jedi Academy/Knight when? An FPS on the level of Dark Forces 2 when?

A new good fucking star wars game when?

>>16785341

fucking still pissed about this

fuck you mark

>>16785618

I still want to find more proof of this image. I've never found a physical copy of the book it's supposedly from (not even sure what book), nor have I see any image other than this. Is a "mixer" a type of reference artwork used for storyboarding characters? Could that simply be what it was?

>>16790428

You mean that Jedi Masters mod? How the fuck do you get it to work on the Steam version? It either starts having that bug where text plays instantly due to dialogue audio not loading or outright crashes on the legacy version.

>>16790590

Allegedly (and I say "allegedly" because I don't know shit about this myself, this is something I read online elsewhere) a "mixer" is an illustration used to test color combinations. It may simply be an unfortunate combination of a name and a word, innocuous without a certain hyper-vigilant mindset (which is not always helpful).

>>16788466

>I hear random people on the internet talk about how much they loved Knights of the Old Republic but they never go into much detail. Is it worth a pirate?

If you like Star Wars they're amazing, if you don't care about Star Wars they're still classics and breddy gud but buggy and if you don't like Star Wars they're a buggy mess and nothing special. The second game has better writing than the first but it also has the hallmarks of an Obsidian game - hours of content on the cutting room floor, some writing that doesn't make much sense and serious bugs out the ass.

>>16790723

How important is the "carry-over save file" from the first to the second game?

>>16790727

It's basically meaningless. That said, you should still play the first one first since its events are talked about in the sequel.

>>16790729

Seconding this because if the second one is better than the first, it'd be horrible to go 2->1 but a pleasant development 1->2.

At least, that's the same advice given regarding Rune Factory, for instance.

>>16790723

very important to always recommend the KOTOR2 restored content mod, which makes it a full and complete game

>>16790727

it will determine the sex and reputation of the hero of the first game (along with some reference to which ending you got), but these can be determined via early dialogue in the sequel

>>16785847

<There's no agenda

Imagine being a niggercattle

>>16785998

isn't that just a thousand copies of Jango's dick?

>>16785340

so palpy was lying about plageius making life? kind of reworks G level canon for what purpose?

>>16791536

why X-wing vs TIE fighter is rated badly?

>>16791537

The way it's designed is really ass-backwards and a regression of the earlier starfighter sims, likely for the sake of its multiplayer which doesn't exist anymore as far as I'm aware. You'd know if you played it after playing the others.

>>16791536

Force Commander was a good boy who dindu nuffin. Shame it's so very very difficult to get working nowadays.

>>16791536

I finished Darkforces 2 a few days ago, and while The lightsaber and force powers are neat, I mostly stuck to the gunplay, and in that aspect i think Darkforces 1's Doom clone style is better so I think I perfer it.

Why would you say 2 is better, Maybe It's just that I didn't make enough use out of the Force beyond Force jumping to getting though the levels and force Protection.

>>16791552

I think 2 has more personal attachment for me, given its multiplayer and mod support especially. The story was really cool for back then too.

>>16791556

>>16791558

Thanks, you cool dude.

Found a playthrough of it if you want to see what was going on. Decent, but no real story, and totally disregards canon

Wow, CRT monitors give me a lot of nostalgia

>>16791559

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxoxZAijW60&list=PLB91E8D28E16FBF48&index=1

Playlist

>>16791556

>>16791555

I appreciate the live action story cutscenes, I really did like those it felt like they were having fun with the material. But I wasn't particularly impress by the actual writing, probably because so many Star Wars stories by now have kept pulling new Sith lords out their ass. so unfortunately it felt like something i'v already seen, even if as a game it may have done what it did first, makes me wish I could have experienced it when it was new, since I can totally understand how it blew people away.

On the other hand I always new about the Dark Troopers from Battlefront 2, but had no idea they were originally from Dark Forces 1 until I played it. so learning about their origin felt awesome to me.

>>16791559

Still a better lightsaber dueling game than anything that came out on the Wii or Kinect.

It's a real shame we didn't get this though. Between cancelling this and Free Raducal's Battlefront III, LucasArts were the dumbest motherfuckers in the entire industry back in the late 00's. As a matter of fact I think their actions are to blame for Star Wars being bought-out by Disney and being in the sad, sorry fucking state it's in today.

>>16791572

I didn't even know about this

>Rogue Squadron game with prequel ships and wiimote lightsaber duels

Dude, fuck

All the forced wagglan minigame bullshit in the world wouldn't have made that not good

>>16791572

>Rogue Squadron TIE bomber sound effect of the bomb impact

God that's a sexual noise.

The biggest bothersome part of Darth Vader lore is how he's rocking a torture suit to keep him weak and angry. Like- did he not figure that out? what about cloning? What about just literally improving the suit? Why not make the pain optional, fucker was already a samurai cyborg, space raiden.

I mean, just look at the quality of the alt universe Anakin Georgie tried to get done- fucker was looking a lot healthier.

I still can't be arsed to download and try the Empire at war remake. Is it worth playing?

>>16791536

>Mount and blade has star wars mods

>and I never noticed

fug

>>16791783

Palpatine was intentionally fucking with Vader to keep him weak and subservient

Anyone have that infograph that showed certain books as being the true sequel trilogy? Been looking for it for months.

>>16791783

I know it's edgy as fuck but the pain was to fuel his anger which he turned into power.

>>16790423

>THQ

>DmC

>Postal III

If anything this webm proves that shit can always be unfucked.

>>16791572

>LucasArts were the dumbest motherfuckers in the entire industry back in the late 00's.

They hired a layman army from EA/Virigin only for the sweet star wars money. And one of them became the president, Simon Jeffery, after LucasArt games he destroyed almost Sega.

>>16793449

I will provide the instructions:

Start a new game on Medium difficulty. Call it .Wampa..Stompa (Case sensitive). Start in a level and as soon as it starts press pause. Now press and hold all at once C up, C right, C down, C left, L, R, Z and Left on the d-pad. While holding these down gently move the control stick left halfway, and hold all this until you hear a sound. Do the same thing with the joystick facing right, then left, right and finally left. Make sure you keep the other buttons held down during this time.

If it worked pink writing will come up, and using L, R and A you can select cheats such as 50 lives, wall ghost, next level, gravity, jump power etc. To make the menu reappear each time you go back to the pause screen C up, C right, C down, C left, L, R, Z and Left on the d-pad.

>>16800644

I was playing that just the other day on PC (GOG) and yeah, it's really fucky on all levels, especially with the lack of rolling. Setting up joystick controls was apain. Had to flip between no compatibility mode and back to compat mode to map buttons. It's stilla good game, but it would be GREAT with better functionality.

>>16800644

One of the last demoscene-tier games, where devs packed an insane amount of content into a small cart. But I guess all the hackerman code introduced a lot of bugs in the port.

But yeah the port is terrible. They wrote a custom compression algorithm to fit all the voice stuff onto the N64 cart, but for some reason didn't use better samples when they ported to PC. The AI on PC is fucked, but N64 has a bug where lazers sometimes pass through objects.

>>16789782

Source on the game on your pic?

>>16801090

Looks like Age of Decadence.

>>16789810

>SEE MY GREY MORALITY GAME WITH BIG WORDS AND EDGINESS IS BETTER THAN YOUR BLACK AND WHITE MORALITY BIOSHIT GAME

>>16801380

People eat up cinematic loot sims like candy, so do Star Wars fans.

>>16785570

>How is that recent game? The one with the ginger MC that looks like they have fetal alcohol syndrome

its okay, but mediocre. meh in most departments. Gets a little janky on the wallrun/parkour and the combat is good enough but nothing too deep. The force powers are pretty nifty though. In my eyes, the biggest disappointment is how tiny the boss roster is. It does that thing where you fight the same boss at 3 different points throughout the story, but the changes between each fight aren't nearly virgil-tier

>>16785998

I would happily swim in the wake of vader's fist

and cock

>>16803511

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rogue_Squadron_3D

The gog version works just fine for me with dgvoodoo2 and Sui's Rogue Squadron DLL wrapper, unless you're using Windows 10 or something stupid like that.

>>16803674

Yeah I ended up getting it to work now, like an idiot I didn't install the dgvoodoo2 correctly when I tried it the first time, and Embed related helped me see that I missed a step.

>>16803680

Don't use jewtube celebrities to troubleshoot your problems, you'd have more luck following forum fixes unironically.

>>16803681

It's not what I usually do, I do use the pcgaming wiki allot, It's just this time I missed a step and the video helped, and I'd hardly call that guy an Eceleb, he just made tutorial that is actually good.

>>16791556

I remember getting that shit fucking game for christmas one year. The only reason why I remember it was because I cut myself really bad trying to get the shit out of the insanely tightly packed box. They didn't just put twist ties to keep the the stuff in the box. They also put several layers of tape over said twist ties.

That was the day I learned about cutting away from yourself.

>>16806282

It sounds more like a case of people bitching about RLM while still watching them like retarded hypocritical niggers.

>>16806282

If you liked the Clone Wars you'll probably like the Mandalorian. It has it's issues

>every character will either betray or want something from everyone else, so why do they trust each other in the first place

>almost everything is a movie reference, even the mando's rifle is a reference to the Holiday Special

>baby Yoda is the new Porg

>comically evil Imperials

>>16806284

It's amazing how, as consensus on the sequels has changed, their opinions have changed in tandem as well. They would have made a very different TFA review if they had done it years later like they had the prequels

>>16806294

It wasn't just their opinion it's been pretty much everyone's opinion, who isn't a retarded TLJ fan. TFA's wasn't the important part of the sequels trilogy. It only had one job, and that was just setting up the status quo of things to go forward. The only reaction anyone needed to have after TFA was "that was good, but THE NEXT MOVIE That's is when things are going to get interesting."

TFA may have been just a rehash of a new hope, but everyone was expecting new things to happen after it, that's why TFA keeps seeming worse in hindsight. If Ray and the rest of the cast actually ended up developing into interesting characters in the next 2 movies, nobody would be care as much about TFA rehashing things, as Soft Reboots tend to do.

>>16806282

Mediocre, but everything else new and Star Wars related is so shit that Mandalorian seems like a master piece in comparison. I'll say the 3 first episodes are good, carried by its action, environment and music. Feel kind of Samurai Jack in a way. After that it just becomes another average TV series. Haven't watched past 5, so I could be wrong though.

>>16806328

>>16806294

>It's amazing how, as consensus on the sequels has changed, their opinions have changed in tandem as well.

<It wasn't just their opinion it's been pretty much everyone's opinion, who isn't a retarded TLJ fan.

Okay I'm retarded since you did say that, anyway the rest of my post I think is less retarded.