df61fd No.16780651
http://archive.is/Xjbkm
It's called Gothic Playable Teaser. Anybody who owns Gothic can play it.
Piranha Bytes isn't involved, which may be a plus of a negative for some people.
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df61fd No.16780653
Forgot to add this in the OP: I've played it, it's just as adorably clunky as the original game with some great combat improvements.
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69c552 No.16780659
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f8a0ce No.16780681
>>16780651
Interesting. I need to try this for sure.
>Piranha Bytes isn't involved
I'm skeptical to say the least.
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16e778 No.16780683
Didn't Pirahna Bytes buy back the IP rights from JoWood?
I remember it went something like this
>PB made Gothic 1
>JoWood helped publish Gothic 2
>lots of infighting among them, during G3, JoWood wanted "the Oblvion audience"
>after G3 releases they split, but JoWood keeps the IP rights
>PB makes Risen and Elex
>JoWood shats Gothic 4 Arcania, everybody hates it
>PB buys back the IP and can now develop G4
<However most of the people who worked on G1, are no longer at the firm, thus we have a ship of Theseus situation
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1b77b2 No.16780685
>>16780681
>Piranha Bytes isn't involved
That's good. The company has changed for the worse and is now only making liberal "are you denying the holocaust" games
Some anons might remember my anger from previous "Piranha-related games" threads.
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1b77b2 No.16780686
>>16780683
Yes they did. I would like to know the story too.
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1b77b2 No.16780690
>>16780651
>Anybody who owns Gothic can play it
So you need to buy Gothic first?
I got rid of my physical copy years ago.
Sounds like a scam method tbqh
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df61fd No.16780691
>>16780681
>I'm skeptical to say the least.
Why? It's not like any of the G1 devs are still there.
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1b77b2 No.16780693
Looked it up. You need to own a piranha bytes game on steam.
So owning them is not enough. You need to "own" them on (((Steam))) to get a fucking demo.
PAID DEMO DETECTED
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df61fd No.16780697
>>16780693
Did you even read the article?
>So your feedback is essential to turn Gothic into a modern game. Therefore, and to reward your loyalty, Gothic Playable Teaser is totally free for all fans who already have any of the titles in the Gothic saga or developed by Piranha Bytes!
They want valid feedback from actual owners of the game, not random fucks who will probably complain the game isn't like Skyrim.
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1b77b2 No.16780699
>>16780697
Yeah, we could still get a no-feedback version to try the game, nigger.
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1b77b2 No.16780702
>>16780697
>loyalty
To who, consumer slave? A company name?
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ac9ef9 No.16780709
>>16780699
>>16780702
Atleast change the id, fag.
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1b77b2 No.16780714
>>16780709
Why? I'm not trying to look like more than one person. Quite the opposite.
See >>16780685
>Some anons might remember
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df61fd No.16780718
>>16780709
He's not samefagging though
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0e286e No.16780723
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1b77b2 No.16780726
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cf37e9 No.16780729
>gothic
WHERE THE FUCK IS TIMESPLITTERS?????
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ae6d05 No.16780736
How are the Gothic games anyways?
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f8a0ce No.16780741
>>16780736
The were good enough for me to spend my youth in them so they are good enough for you to play them now as well.
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b98d45 No.16780746
>>16780741
Simulation WRPGs are all pretty samey since they're all updated clones of Ultima 7/Ultima Underworld but the krauts at least put out a passing effort into the npc dialog in the first two gothic games compared to say morrowind where everybody repeats the exact same fucking thing.
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69c552 No.16780760
Trust me it's not even worth pirating. It's the worst remake I've ever played.
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84da6c No.16780842
>THQ
Ugh. Isn't that the company that did an AMA with that one transmysogynist site? :^)
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513e07 No.16780846
>>16780760
Saying this, without explaining why so doesn't really put much value to your claim. Nor does saying it twice help, exact opposite actually.
And heres an obvious point, is it poor from a "its a prototype" view or did they manage to fuck up something directly.
implying you even played it
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efbfdb No.16780847
>>16780651
So it's Gothic 1 with worse VA's (compared to the original German) and less content (no mods) in exchange for better graphics and some shittily revamped combat system ala Kingdome: Come where it flashes directional queues indicating how to block (1:11 in OP video)?
To anyone with passable German, replay Gothic 1 with the mod 'Welt der Verurteilten' (there's no English translation last I checked), it's an amazing vanilla+ mod.
https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1332744-Release-Gothic-Welt-der-Verurteilten-v1-03-6
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69c552 No.16780848
>>16780846
Shit tier level design with invisible walls and linear corridors with cutscenes and no exploration
Censhorship. Original Gothic had female slaves this one has no females at all
Consolized interface
Dialogue system is awful, worse than dialogue wheel from latest nu-bioware games
huge stamina and hp bar on top of protag
markers everywhere for loot, npcs and quest, maybe you can even unlock witcher sense later in the game
korean mmo tier art direction or even worse. overuse shitty post-effect such as bloom, blur etc
new music sucks
awful combat
awful optimization
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69c552 No.16780849
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69c552 No.16780850
Everyone wears fancy armors and looks rich.
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513e07 No.16780851
>>16780848
Well ain't that a list.
Somehow i doubt feedback can save that.
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000b91 No.16780854
>>16780848
The entire thing looks like what would happen if a fan modded Gothic into Skyrim.
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efbfdb No.16780855
>>16780848
Fuck theses kikes, why sully the Gothic IP with this trash as if 3 and 4 didn't do a good enough job already instead of just releasing a completely new game if they want to exclude all the keystones that made Gothic what it is?
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fee94f No.16780858
>>16780849
>>16780848
Damn that's awful. One thing I really enjoyed about Gothic was the controls. Simple actions like opening a chest and grabbing a torch felt immersive because it wasn't just "Press key to loot" It was complete player control by starting an action and finishing an action. That's the only way I can describe it, but it added a level of immersion without adding any bit of tedium. I already hate everything about this demo by what you've shown and described, but if that control scheme still there or is opening a chest just one button press and an animation?
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69c552 No.16780861
>>16780858
No animations for drinking beer etc I don't remember if there are animations for picking up items, but I think there must be.
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efbfdb No.16780862
>>16780858
The Gothic 1 control scheme had its charm but skipping the extra input and just using ctrl in Gothic 2 was an improvement, also the 1 row inventory section was peak homosexuality.
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69c552 No.16780863
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fee94f No.16780864
>>16780863
If you didn't post a webm earlier I would assume you were editing this. This looks so out of place and awful I feel like I'm in a "/v/ makes a HUD" thread. Thank you for suffering through this and showcasing this garbage.
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8f6624 No.16781036
>>16780864
>This looks so out of place and awful I feel like I'm in a "/v/ makes a HUD" thread.
to be fair the majority of /v/ is retarded and criticism of a hud boils down to "I don't like the color".
fuck off with the healthbar or make it optional for people that want it (choice is good), remove the markers and make the indicator part of the environment (glimmer/color etc.)
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df61fd No.16781050
>>16780855
There was a fourth one?
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d28aaa No.16781052
>>16780861
> I don't remember if there are animations for picking up items
There was. In every single PB game. The character bents over, bending his knees while reaching his arm to the ground like you do irl.
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513e07 No.16781053
>>16781050
>The player is able to wield any weapon as they have no requirements for statistics.
>There are no teachers within the game like in previous parts and all skills can be learned by using the skill tree.
>there are only three spells available (but upgradable).
>the character can only interact with "named" characters, those who have a name.
So its a generic action game.
I really don't think i ever wanted or needed to know such a thing existed.
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d28aaa No.16781055
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16780863
>>16780864
Looks like in Elex. That game was shit too.
>>16781053
As if we don't have tons of those already.
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fee94f No.16781061
So, I've been looking up gameplay, and this whole thing looks like a parody.
>pop-up tutorials with video
>massive markers for everything you can interact with
>generic "press button" looting with lazy animations
I haven't played it myself, so I could be wrong here, but everywhere looks like a fucking hallway as well.
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8f6624 No.16781062
>>16781061
>>16781055
so basically a game for a 2019 audience…
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69c552 No.16781063
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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69c552 No.16781064
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e5321a No.16781065
>Piranha Bytes isn't involved
>Unreal Engine 4
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2cae0c No.16781070
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16781065
Hey hey, people.
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f8a0ce No.16781081
>>16780849
Still downloading the game. Of course this looks pretty graphically, but it's too pretty. The original world of Gothic was dark and depressing, everything was shit there because it is a prison colony, and the prison atmosphere was actually believable. The voice acting played a big role for that too. It was awful in the english version but the German VA couldn't be more fitting.
Also due to the relatively graphics you had sharp edges and stuff which contributed to its spookeyness.
>>16780858
This. It actually felt like you are controlling his hands rather than hitting a button and have him do it for you while you watch.
I will never forget the first time I played Gothic I as a 12 year old in a dark room and with no idea how to play the game or how to advance in it. I got it along with some really fancy hyped games that didn't keep me playing very long, but Gothic got me hooked and I kept playing it forever.
Later I got Morrowind and it seemed like it was doing the same thing, but in a way inferior way. Morrowind was just a wall of text, it didn't have that suspension of disbelief. Maybe if I had played Morrowind before Gothic, I had liked it more. I like other text heavy games like Planescape but Morrowind just always felt boring.
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47ff0d No.16781083
>>16781050
More or less. The last game that actually had something to do with real Gothic was 3.
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d28aaa No.16781085
>>16781081
>Still downloading the game
Is there a torrent? So I can try it and shit on it afterwards?
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b98d45 No.16781088
>>16781081
The reason why people liked morrowind was for the open world sim elements, after it became outdated by newer software people have to use the lore as an excuse for fellating their memories of the game even though it's a average to subpar clone of typical mythology stories. All of the npcs repeat themselves like robots, it's why they never bring it up.
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0cf745 No.16781093
>>16781070
>eceleb faggotry
You found your way here so i take it you know the way back.
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f5d0a5 No.16781099
They should do ELEX 2 instead.
>>16781093
>being this new
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47ff0d No.16781121
>>16781099
>They should do ELEX 2 instead.
Elex 2 might be interesting, Elex was a good game. I think they could've made more of it though. It resembled many of the good things about Gothic, but it was never quite as atmospheric even though it certainly tried. I found the design of the SciFi elements and the HUD not very pleasing, they were creating a cold atmosphere like they probably should but could've been styled much better, in the end much of it seemed too sterile.
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d28aaa No.16781126
>>16781099
>>16781121
This game isn't being developed by PB which is doing Elex 2 with EU propaganda funding right as we speak nigger.
>Elex was a good game.
>It resembled many of the good things about Gothic
It was a shit game and it's mechanics resembled Fallout 4.
Both of you lurk 2 years.
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3d818c No.16781177
The writing is so bad it is almost unbearable at times. It is clear that they have no desire whatsoever to make an actual good remake.
The protagonist narrates every fucking step he takes. At one point he uses the line
>Worst. Prison. Ever.
They completely miss the point that in Gothic you are not special and no one really cares about you when you arrive there. Here your rival is marked by a big attack on something. Diego says how special you are for surviving one day in the colony 3-4 times. He also says
>Gomez is a man of peculiar tastes. You'll see when you get to know him
The idea of some no name convict getting to know Gomez is so ridiculous, that it shows what tone they are setting up for
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b98d45 No.16781187
>>16781177
This is actually a pretty good comparison of video games then vs now.
1. No sense of danger or agency
2. Borderlands/MMO/WoW tier special pat-on-the-back congratulatory bullshit for subhumans
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d28aaa No.16781189
>>16781177
Are you allowed to complain about genocide like in Elex too?
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16e778 No.16781214
>>16780864
>/v/ makes a HUD
Good times.
You need to zoom in
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df61fd No.16781221
>>16781214
>that curved dildo
Wouldn't that be extremely painful?
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ca2474 No.16781232
>>16781221
I don't know the answer to that question, but probably no. The size on the other hand…
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f9ce32 No.16781253
>People in here unironically calling this indieshit pile of muddy textures and abysmal LOD, "pretty"
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69c552 No.16781310
>>16781214
I made HUD for shitman. Left original, right mine.
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69c552 No.16781313
original and post-processing effects turned off via console
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b98d45 No.16781324
>>16781313
UE4 looks piss ugly without shaders covering up the vaseline-textured models.
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6eab8e No.16781325
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f9ce32 No.16781330
>>16781313
>left picture: 24 FPS
>right picture: 280 FPS
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6eab8e No.16781334
I can only think of two good RPGs made using Unreal Engine. Deus Ex and Alpha Protocol. Maybe Mass Effect if I would be generous.
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69c552 No.16781338
>>16781334
latest deus ex is using modified glacier engine
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69c552 No.16781343
Is there a single open world rpg using unreal engine?
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501b1d No.16781402
>>16781324
That's what post processing effects are for. There will always be something off or unrealistic without them. If you disable them in mirrors edge, then all of the textures will look bad.
>>16781343
There's plenty.
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4f3fec No.16781406
>>16781177
So many cutscenes. I walk to the equivalent of a familiar spot to pick the sword up, boom, cutscene. And what the hell happened to Diego? He's like some wannabe pimp in this, not the good old stoic and cunning yet always honest Diego.
And why am I fucking british in this game?
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08fbcd No.16781433
>>16781334
The Last Remnant uses UE3 and it's great
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69c552 No.16781446
>>16781433
it's not open world. little hubs separated with loading screens
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69c552 No.16781449
I thought you responded to me.
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d1e447 No.16781476
I can't wait for this remake to become something like Human Revolution where retards who have never played the original will praise it for being faithful
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4f3fec No.16781645
>>16781476
If they keep going like that it'll be an absolute Anti-Gothic. Maybe not everything needs a remake in the first place. I find myself replaying old games much more than playing new ones.
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d1e447 No.16781652
>>16781645
>If they keep going like that it'll be an absolute Anti-Gothic
Its already at that point right now
I imagine they plan to revise this turd multiple times so that the shills will keep clamoring that its good this time and by the time it gets released the discourse around it would be so muddled that nobody would care how much of a bastardization this is.
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656644 No.16781790
>>16781334
Mass Effect doesn't use Unreal but inhouse engine from old Bioware
and Mass Effect: Andromeda uses Frostbite because EA.
Unreal Engine isn't bad in comparison to other available engines imao. It's 10x better than Unity.
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656644 No.16781796
>>16781402
>There will always be something off or unrealistic without them.
Look again. He only turned off oversaturation, bloom and chromatic distortion. The "shaders" (shading and shadow effects) are still on
They just used those effects to blur the image drastically and get things bright so you can't see that the textures are actually garbage.
The stones don't look like stones at all. Go outside and look at stones instead of your basement wall and you'll see what anon means.
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2e8042 No.16782167
>nobody posted a magnet yet
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8f63b3 No.16782169
Speaking of Deus Ex, would DE:Revision be worth playing for a first playthrough
I keep trying to play vanilla but I'm too spoiled with modern QoL shit to get past the second hour
Also are any of the Jensen games worth playing
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b98d45 No.16782170
>>16781796
I have my monitor tinted red so I couldn't tell too well, it just looked piss ugly.
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b98d45 No.16782172
>>16782169
>I keep trying to play vanilla but I'm too spoiled with modern QoL shit to get past the second hour
Software is software, do what you want with it, it's on the user to contribute to these kinds of things.
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c5d0a6 No.16782243
>>16780651
Holy fuck I hate this nu-age corporate bullshit where everything is about "gauging interest"
>Play our broken prototype so we can gauge interest for a new game!
>Buy our shitty remaster of [game] so we can gauge interest for a sequel!
>Buy our lame spinoff so we can gauge interest in a franchise revival!
Is everyone a spineless cuck in this industry? We need less dip-toe-in-pool-to-check-temperature faggots and more mother fuckers who jump straight in.
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75a64b No.16782261
>>16782243
exectives are fickle faggots, so you always have to prove yourself to them so you can make what you want.
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2fdae0 No.16782265
>>16781790
Mass Effect used Unreal engine up to ME3
https://www.mobygames.com/game/mass-effect
It's mentioned on the back cover
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df61fd No.16782276
>>16781790
What's actually wrong with Unity?
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d1e447 No.16782284
>>16782169
Just power through the vanilla game. At most I would recommend Shifter mod but even then you should be able to play it without that.
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33d552 No.16782454
>>16782276
nothing, retards just like to claim it's shit because they played some cheap asset flip with the unity logo from the free version. plenty of games run on it just fine which most people don't even know it's unity. I mean look at tards like >>16781790 that don't even know which engine ME used which a quick internet search would've answered.
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