2f46e4 No.16780524[Last 50 Posts]
>A third person cooperative videogame on the works, from WotC, in the current year plus almost 5.
<That shitty animation
<No gameplay
<Dritzz
<5th edition
Your toughs?
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e78049 No.16780528
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2ab541 No.16780531
>>16780524
Wouldn't even pirate/10.
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83b92f No.16780533
>>16780528
Fully goofy, makes it look like one of those retarded physics games.
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a52c5b No.16780540
I'm so tired of the women archer trope, at least it has no niggers
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129b1d No.16780542
>>16780524
Jesus Christ that looks gay as fuck
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d9c03f No.16780550
I miss when D&D was creative and had a lot of various imaginative campaigns, rather than just Forgotten Realms niggers that took over the scene after Bazinga Theory.
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87140f No.16780551
>>16780550
I never, ever bothered with the D&D setting, all my games in it are either OC settings or shit like the zelda homebrew.
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a5d6d0 No.16780563
>>16780524
>those wooden expressions
>those reverse brenton face cams
>that music
>literally zero comfy from D&D or anything that make it actually a unique concept in the trailer
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08882a No.16780565
>>16780524
>Your toughs?
This guy is pretty tough.
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65502c No.16780577
<5th edition
I never played anything with it, but everything I heard about it made it sound horrible. I don't really have any experience beyond 3.5 though.
The trailer doesn't really give us any useful information, it feels like that white noise on a screen, completely incoherent besides trying to generate hype. They might as well be showing a VR game.
>>16780540
You know, I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it. Huh.
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d60363 No.16780616
When is it time to hammer
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bca1df No.16780625
Was the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance games even any good? I didn't know people wanted more of those.
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e81bbe No.16780633
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2088cf No.16780680
Relevant news from interview with WotC bigshot
http://archive.ph/7XWVT
>Expect "seven or eight" Dungeons & Dragons games in the near future
These have been in dev for a while. In December of 2017 he said they had 10 D&D games in development. NWNEE and Warriors of Waterdeep (mobile shit) having come out since then.
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d9c03f No.16780724
>>16780680
>>Expect "seven or eight" Dungeons & Dragons games in the near future
Why?
Unless they're remastering the old SSI games, they can fuck right off. Or at least demonstrate they can make a decent game first (the trailer is not encouraging), and then we'll talk about another.
Are they trying to make the Marvel Cinematic Universe out of D&D games?
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eeebd7 No.16780727
>>16780625
I played the first Dark Alliance game with a friend on coop mode when we were like 9 or 10 years old and it was an absolute blast. You could undress the female character down to her underwear and the innkeeper had massive tits, too.
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1a1e42 No.16780740
tfw never played dnd
also, did someone say woman archer?
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d7f775 No.16780758
>>16780740
Reminder that amazons cut off one of their boobs to be better archers.
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d51f70 No.16780764
>>16780524
>look at dorf
>reminded that Vermintide exist
>reminded that Vermintide is great
Wish it's a full pledged RPG
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2088cf No.16780780
>>16780724
They aren't all from the same dev. We know Baldur's Gate 3 (Larian) is part of those 7/8.
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224957 No.16781319
>>16780740
The real lesson should be to never record vertically.
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5a0685 No.16781322
Just play Dungeons and Dragons Online, you can grind all the PTW shit on the store, but I still suggest you buy the first two expansions when they go 75% off on a pack as they did in the past
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b2820a No.16781350
>>16781322
>JUST PLAY THE MMO
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b1c37a No.16781385
>>16781319
People should start recording diagonally just to fuck with everyone.
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365628 No.16781396
>>16780740
And now I have a new fetish.
Jokes aside, bows being a weapon for women comes from the idea that "hurr, durr, bows are a dex-weapon", when in reality using a bow requires primarily strength instead.
>>16781385
You deserve to get raped by a pack of AIDS niggers just for suggesting that.
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4f941a No.16781490
>>16781385
And a whole generation of Dutch-angle fetishists is born.
The real answer is to make all cellphone cameras record a circle, average consumers have proven themselves too dumb to use them properly.
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d9c03f No.16781517
>>16781396
>"hurr, durr, bows are a dex-weapon"
I just assumed it was because Bows are about the closest analogue you could get to a gun for most of human history. It's an equalizer that allows a person of much lower skill and strength and stature to kill with much greater parity to everyone else when compared to the advantages inherent to and underlying most melee combat.
Spears being another such weapon that would be a decent fit for women, since they can be effective with very little training and rely more on line formation and unit tactics while not requiring as much skill or strength from the user. Hell, it's a useful enough tactic in some situations to simply place the butt end of the spear into the ground and angle it up to allow the momentum of the charging enemy to provide all of the killing force.
You only see bows more associated with women in media because spears don't have the romantic air surrounding them (being viewed as a peasant and nigger weapon by most peoples for the last 1,000+ years) and because that one chick in Hunger Games.
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643a54 No.16781530
>>16781517
Bows require enormous amounts of strength & endurance to use for extended periods of time. Longbowmen trained their whole lives for the role. Bows and swords get romanticized, but spears were used even into the age of gunpowder (pike & shot) because they held off cavalry charges.
Crossbows also require strength to pull the string back, or to operate the crank (in the case of the more complex and powerful "arbalests"). None of these weapons are lacking in requiring strength/endurance. People underestimate how much it takes to use this shit for more than 5 minutes. Daggers make more sense for dexterity.
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b97e9b No.16781533
Wow, Dwarven Go-Pros are terrible. What's this even supposed to play like?
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b7d66d No.16781545
Literally every weapon that doesn't supply its own energy is a STR weapon.
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b4f189 No.16781662
>>16781396
>when in reality using a bow requires primarily strength instead
In the Odyssey, Ulysses gets back home after 20 years and finds it full of nobles wishing to NTR him. So he picks up a monstrous hunting bow they kept on the mantleplace, that nobody else managed to use, and starts pinning them to the wall.
But it wasn't just a matter of strength. Ancient bows were wooden and quickly disposed of, depleting their elasticity in a few days. What's more, it wasn't just a matter of pulling the string: you would have to force the bow down with a leg, insert the string in holes dug on the FRONT of the weapon, while pulling in the opposite direction. To squeeze every last power from the tool.
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f6a793 No.16781667
>>16780727
As soon as you mentioned giant titty innkeeper I remembered that I played that game.
>>16781545
I always did wonder why Dex weapons aren't more about using unwieldy things like nunchuks and such.
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87140f No.16781671
>>16781517
Yes anon, but the closest to a everyman ranged weapon in history would be a sling, anyone can become proficient with one, its cheap, quick to fire and if used correctly has the penetrating power of a 9mm bullet, in the bible david used a sling to kill goliath because its what he used to protect his sheep daily.
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b4f189 No.16781679
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75d3d2 No.16781684
>>16781671
I personally couldn't imagine using a sling and them being effective or accurate at all. Maybe it's just cause I've got bad hand-eye coordination. The first I heard of 'em was Total War almost a decade ago. When did they stop being used? And could they actually penetrate steel helmets?
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f6a793 No.16781685
>>16781684
If your steel helmet is shit probably.
You can look in youtube and even soyboy types can penetrate plywood easy.
With practice and leadshots, probably a good chance of at least putting a dent in one.
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87140f No.16781686
>>16781684
>When did they stop being used?
They were still being used by medieval times, and the incas used them to good effect against spanish garrisons.
>And could they actually penetrate steel helmets?
At the very least dent them and give you a good concussion, it was a really good weapon for what it was.
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65248b No.16781687
>>16781684
They were used throughout the middle east, mediterranean and parts of western europe for hundreds of years. I think they were dropped somewhere in the middle ages as armor and metalworking became better. It's definitively a spray and pray weapon, I don't think it gives you the same control over accuracy as bows do.
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981136 No.16781688
>>16780680
>Expect "seven or eight" Dungeons & Dragons games in the near future
All mobileshit and TCG no doubt
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87140f No.16781694
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16781687
> It's definitively a spray and pray weapon, I don't think it gives you the same control over accuracy as bows do.
Depends on the range anon, at the rage an average murderhobo would fight, assuming he has practice with his sling, it would be accurate.
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65248b No.16781700
>>16781694
>vid
Damn. I think there are also sticks that help with that.
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87140f No.16781707
>>16781700
Yea, shepherd staff's were tools anon, not just something you use to not fall down.
There were also military tools called hand trabuchets.
I also just found out that they were apparently used during the 20th century by experienced soldiers to throw hand granades.
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b2820a No.16781717
>>16781517
Technically speaking
Bows, as a general rule, ARE dexterity based.
Hardbows and Longbows are the exception not the rule.
It'd be like saying the heavy crossbow is the standard, despite requiring more to be fired accurately and quickly.
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b2820a No.16781720
>>16781667
Because then we'd have to have a massive discussion on the DEX necessity of the great sizeclass of weapons and how that shit's frequently ignored
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78694c No.16781735
>>16781684
>I personally couldn't imagine using a sling and them being effective or accurate at all.
I believe this common misconception is due to how media commonly portrays slings. A good, very-experienced slinger was extremely accurate at short ranges, and accurate enough to hit a formation at long ranges. An experienced slinger would also have their own stock of bullets carved/cast from very dense materials, like lead, and did not just throw random pebbles or rocks. A well-fired bullet at effective ranges didn't impart force into the body and bounce off - they would puncture skin or armor.
>When did they stop being used?
They steadily declined as bows became better and more available. It was more difficult to master a sling enough to get the same long-range accuracy as a bow, and as people began mastering iron and steel, arrowheads became much more destructive and effective at armor penetration. Also, archery was useful for hunting, while throwing stones was less so.
>And could they actually penetrate steel helmets?
When slings were commonplace, steel wasn't. Ancient helmets varied wildly by region, but bronze or early iron would probably be what you'd want to compare it to. That being said, a high-quality lead bullet launched by a veteran slinger had the potential to penetrate a medieval steel helmet, though it was more likely to leave a serious dent. A dent in the helmet could easily shove metal fragments into your skull, though. Other shots could strike weak points and penetrate the helmet completely, like an eye shot, or the face of most helmets without visors. The sensitivity of the human head is why helmets were designed to deflect attacks, not absorb them. A head shot that wasn't fatal could impart enough concussive force to harm the neck or make someone dizzy.
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450791 No.16781746
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d9c03f No.16781749
>>16781684
>Maybe it's just cause I've got bad hand-eye coordination.
You need to play more video games.
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e15f54 No.16782439
>>16780524
>no wizard in the party
They're going to lose and they deserve it.
>>16780540
And if anybody said this as if it was a negative people can point to the drow, having an issue with it means they'd have to admit race is more than color so they won't.
>>16780551
This, I've never played the forgotten realms tabletop setting and nobody ever suggests it.
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7c21ee No.16782550
>>16781707
>they were apparently used during the 20th century by experienced soldiers to throw hand grenades
Its cheaper than a mortar, easier to carry around and any soldier can use it. Only issue you'd have is it falling out of the sling and blowing your ass up. Otherwise its a solid idea.
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0ab9c1 No.16782756
>>16781717
Ah yes the history of low pull weight bows. A total meme weapon that relies on unprepared opponents or flat out unarmored ones.
A real equalizer. They were surely the standard i'm sure, its not like 90% of cultures went with high pull weight warbows, no clearly the shortbow was the norm.
Basing bows on their most primitive forms does not help their status as a weapon. 20-50 draw weight is so bad that its bad against unarmored opponents.
Crossbows were never historically easy to load, though i might be forgetting some meme chink crossbow.
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462b30 No.16782776
>>16782550
Timing is an issue. Imagine you load it into the sling, pull the pin, and start spinning it. I don't see that working with string-type slings without specialized (long fuse) grenades, and the whole process is just too slow for the kind of immediate situation you might want a grenade for. The staff-type sling (basically a lacrosse stick) might be pretty efficient, but those tend to be roughly the same size as a rifle so the bulk is a downside.
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7b5082 No.16786149
>>16780533
It reminds me of Garrys Mod animations for some reason, and not very well done ones
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2088cf No.16786204
>>16782756
Plenty of crossbows were easy to load. The goat's foot lever (1300s+) onward and, especially, the windlass (1400s+) don't need much physical strength. Speed is the problem.
5E did make shortbow (as in low weight hunting bow) a simple weapon, which was a good way to make it useful when longbow was better in every way when they're both martial weapons.
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0ab9c1 No.16786210
>>16786204
>goats foot and windlass
Oh right those existed.my statement was still correct due to odd wording though haha, crossbows were ass to load strong or not
The windlass isn't as easy to load as you'd think. Goats foot is definitely does bring it to that point though.
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3edd66 No.16786221
>>16781717
There's no dexterity. War bows, external constraints aside(read:horseback), were always made as fucking huge as a trained man could be expected to still draw. The only real difference is between hunting bows and war bows. You just need to be strong enough to draw it, and have enough practice to be able to hit something. Which for a war bow is pretty fucking strong.
There is no dex guy who starts out threading needles at 100 yards, and there's no one with good eyesight who practice won't bring up to a reasonable standard. Being able to spin a pen real good won't help you with that. Draw, aim, loose. There's no dex. It's a nonsense measure and just a blanket term for anything you'd expect the skillmonkey to do. Even lockpicking is just practice. No one without serious disabilities is too clumsy to do that, and more won't help make you any better.
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31bb73 No.16786258
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9dbe65 No.16786382
>>16780727
I've only played the first one too, but did it solo and still had a good time with it. Just implying it's not one of those "it's good with friends" only type of a game.
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6cc047 No.16786394
>>16780524
The trailer was hilarious, I liked it.
Holy shit I didn't realize all the fucking faggots came back to 8kun. R I P.
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f93f49 No.16786457
>>16780740
Furries are worse then rape-roleplayers to be perfectly honest.
With the rape guys at least he provides the Big Bad for you and they're outed after like one or two sessions, but the furries just roleplay as walking dogs that lick everything and wag tails all the time, even if they're dragons or lizardmen. And it's even more creepy because you know that shit is a pretext for hiding their serious bestiality foot fetish with extra vore inflation and they're barely holding themselves back the entire time.
The facial expressions really sell it. You know, easily, what turns a furry player on because they can't hide the eyelid drops or the way they shift in their seat. Being able to read people just makes furries way more disturbing. I've met some real psychopaths, but maybe it's because they're predicatable and forward that I have no issue dealing with them easily.
Furries? Furries are unpredictable. You can't even avoid setting off their DTF mode because literally everything gets them erect. Can't even use kobolds, or beastfolk or monsters or they'll try to talk with it and fuck it. Even if they're undead fucking liches.
Furries are insdious. They're either extremely obvious, or it takes like 10 sessions where they suddenly out themselves and start playing the female fox "sexy" characters when before they've mostly played dwarves and orcs.
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f93f49 No.16786464
>>16781684
Slings are pretty deadly against unarmored opponents, but they also could dent the shit out of armor. They're pretty easy to use, someone with real skill can be extremely accurate with one, and they were used back in the day to hunt small targets like rabbits because they were accurate as fuck.
Given practice, you can easily kill a man with one and a big enough stone, but most people used super dense shit and not stuff they randomly picked off the ground. The reason the sling is deadly is the same reason why a well made leather whip can flay a man's skin off.
People used spears and bows for large game, but slings were used in war against men. It's pretty easily concealable too. If you were good with it, you could also kill large game with a single shot, like a deer or something. Given a dense enough stone.
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f93f49 No.16786469
>>16782550
>>16782776
I'm imagining a dainty lacross team full of high school girls with Clint Eastwood faces throwing grenades through the Siberian wilderness at the USSR and I have you fucks to blame for that.
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936f9a No.16791799
It's shit because
>VR
>Drizzt and Co
>It isn't Dark Alliance 3 packed with the prior two games for newcomers
>NO MULOURHAND PHAROH DEMIGOD
And worst of all, it will have 5e Pozminsc.
0/10 let it burn like SoD, NWNEE and faggot-ass 5e Nu-strahd.
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f1a31e No.16791967
>>16780524
>dat gopro trailer
wtf were they thinking
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87d264 No.16792441
>>16791799
Dark Alliance is kind of a mediocre button masher Diablo clone while 2's just serviceable, then you have the Everquest spinoff on the same engine which is a clusterfuck maze but is technically superior to Dark Alliance 2. All of them are number grinding loot treadmills. They're all technically shit but various degrees of shit.
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2100d6 No.16792629
>>16780524
Oh dear christ it's gonna be Darksiders hack and slash co-op with the thinnest patina of D&D skillshit to justify the name. That trailer is utter garbage all it shows is some trashy horde mode and NOTHING of content, what's the bets that's the main focus of the game and everything else is an afterthought.
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2100d6 No.16792632
>>16780740
>that vid
Titty girls aren't meant to fight.
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244aed No.16792801
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59ab19 No.16792804
The way the heads and the hands moved, it's definitely going to be a VR.
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297ffc No.16792838
>>16792629
>Oh dear christ it's gonna be Darksiders hack and slash co-op
Darksiders Genesis? That was a neat game.
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bcf9b7 No.16792851
>all these faggots complaining about shit other people wrote
y'all are bad DMs
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8207a3 No.16792852
>>16786221
Anyone can learn to pick a shitty lock. But your personal talent and genetics determine how fast or even if you can pick a good lock. Some people are able to pick really complex and well designed locks, while others never move past a 5-pinner with a couple spool pins.
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