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329334 No.16772905
They're going full Reddit and making it into a fucking Density clone instead of a well crafted FPS.
All I wanted was a nice atmosphere and good shooting and instead I got a shitty grindfest thanks to retarded modern devs that play and watch nothing but trash.
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49e61a No.16772917
>>16772905
You could have put some more effort in your "review". Just saying "it's a clone of X game" doesn't say anything, at least say what elements they drew from X game.
This low effort with that video just makes me think the game is actually fine or you're a shill.
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000000 No.16772924
>>16772905
All games since 2007 are shit.
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bf4edf No.16772975
>floating numbers
Why? I thought this was going to be a throwback to Painkiller.
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136048 No.16773003
>>16772975
You better believe corporate kikeholders are thirsty for the retardlands bucks.
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49e61a No.16773014
>>16772975
>>16773003
Don't exagerate, there's probably an option to disable that as most games like this tend to have.
It's most likely there for the sake of feedback instead of hit markers and for all the number crunching nerds to theorycraft all day long.
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136048 No.16773016
>>16773014
Don't say probably when you're guessing you idiot.
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1c92f4 No.16773216
>>16772905
And all interest is gone.
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b41f9a No.16773218
>hit enemy
>dmg number appears
>kill enemy
>*ding ding ding ding ding* you-just-won-the-jackpot animation
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080302 No.16773219
Damage outputs and health bars aren't inherently bad, it's bullet sponge enemies and shield mechanics that make Destiny / Borderlands such a slog.
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17f3f3 No.16773261
>>16773219
>Damage outputs and health bars aren't inherently bad
They are
Especially in an FPS
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49e61a No.16773272
>>16773016
>Don't say probably when you're guessing
That's precisely you say when you're guessing, you moron. I'm not certain since I don't know, therefore it's only a probability.
If you want to argue that it's a very low probability or that it isn't even possible, we'd have to compile a decent list of games that feature floating numbers and see how many allow you to toggle it off.
While I'm not too confident this will be the case here, I'm fairly sure there's a decent amount of similar games that do give you that option, therefore "probably" is quite apt.
>>16773219
They're not a good sign though.
You only need statistics about how much damage you're exactly causing when you're supposed to craft specific builds to tackle a problem which on one hand can mean interesting gameplay but quite often devolves into bullet sponges that you need to "figure out". If that wasn't the case, hit markers would suffice.
They are also used by Devs that want to give basic gratification to the players which indicates the rest of the game just might not be that good.
It's also a matter of style I suppose. Top-down hack&slash games have floating numbers all the time, with mods often used specifically to add even more numbers visible for you (Grim Dawn comes to mind) but those are games where the focus is building your character and numbers let you gauge how well you're doing.
FPS games however are far more action-centric and big floating numbers kinda take away from that and make the whole experience more arcade-y than it needs to be. It's not something that many will admit to but basically, it's immersion breaking.
Of course, you could also go the route of mouth breathers like >>16773261 and merely say they are bad because that's the consensus of /v/, the hive mind, with no reasoning behind it. Now stop climbing that ladder, you're not allowed to eat those bananas.
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5b81b2 No.16773322
>>16773218
When I played TF2 a good number of years ago, I'm bad, very bad at FPS games. I kept the damage numbers and dings enabled so I could actually track when I hit someone.
Of course, in a single player game like this, it's … ehh
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e2fa8b No.16773327
I was raped behind a Pizza Hut in 1994 by a blond trucker with a yeezer shirt. My asshole has been prolapsed ever since and no amount of psychologist visits or ass medication helps heal the strains of pain. My life will never be the same, even less so for my asshole. I have to shove a cork up so I don't suffer anal leakage (which has happened 4 times now and I die a little of embarrassment). The only good thing about the whole ordeal (aside from reaffirming my heterosexual orientation) is that farting now is silent. I call it ninja gas because no one can tell I took a fart. That's all.
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17f3f3 No.16773330
>>16773272
>>You only need statistics about how much damage you're exactly causing when you're supposed to craft specific builds to tackle a problem which on one hand can mean interesting gameplay but quite often devolves into bullet sponges that you need to "figure out".
>lootershooter faggot talking about how his cancerous skinner box isn't a bad thing by describing exactly why its a bad thing
The only mouthbreather here is you. Stick to your mindless grinds with "builds" and let us keep our FPS.
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49e61a No.16773469
>>16773330
>talking about how his cancerous skinner box isn't a bad thing
Quote where I said or implied this, turbo faggot. The only disagreement here is that you believe there won't be an option to turn off floating numbers while I think that COULD exist.
You're the only dumb cunt making absolute statements about something you don't even have a way to confirm in the first place.
If it seems like someone is saying contradictory shit to you, maybe the problem isn't that they are wrong and stupid but rather that you misinterpreted what they said, a common mistake when you're looking for specific conclusions before you start reading their posts and refusing to think beyond disagreeing by impulse.
If I was in favor of floating numbers, why would I talk about an option to remove them?
If I was defending them being present in this game, why would I proceed to say that they are justified for top-down hack&slash games but out of place in FPS?
Fucking read a book, nigger. It's good practice for not being a dumb contrarian.
>>16773322
As an engineer, the hit sounds did help to know when my sentry was shooting someone and when it stopped. Helps to keep an area under control if you can focus your vision on other things.
Never had much use for the other shit but I know some players keep the damage numbers so they can decide when it's best to switch weapons, like turning to melee when they know the next stab will be a killing blow or switching to the revolver if they know the other guy is low enough to kill with a single clip.
Then again, Team Fortress 2 always had a bit of a cartoon style to it with a competitive focus imposed by the community, so I guess floating numbers aren't that weird in that context. Not anymore than all the hats and particle effects anyway.
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136048 No.16773563
>>16773469
Take your book and slam your face with it along with your garbage bullet sponge mmo fps garbage you stupid fuck.
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ac050a No.16773576
I don't see how this is bad. Seems to be a nice break from all the political bullshit games tend to shove in customer's faces.
>/v/ hates games
Is not meant to be serious you niggers.
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17f3f3 No.16773613
>>16773576
What the fuck does shitty lootshooter gameplay have to do with politics?
Is this turd being shilled here? How can anyone even type this unironically?
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924b16 No.16773623
>>16773219
>Damage outputs and health bars aren't inherently bad, it's bullet sponge enemies and shield mechanics that make Destiny / Borderlands such a slog.
They unfortunately go hand in hand with single player shooters like this. It's done to artificially increase the playtime.
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924b16 No.16773633
>>16773613
You don't get it OP, a lot of indies are tremendously pozzed and left-wing.
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52e5e8 No.16773737
>>16773633
And farmville is 10/10 GOTY material.
Just because hter'es no politics doesn't mean the game is good. It's like talking to a third grader.
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924b16 No.16773787
>>16773737
It's better than any leftist game by default.
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17fc22 No.16773789
>>16773219
>Damage outputs and health bars aren't inherently bad
I don't mind health bars being an option but I'd personally rather see it being in a visual manner, if possible. Shooting a nigger in the head and grabs it would be cool, same with kneecapping a bitch.
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8b3ec8 No.16773794
>>16772905
i don't understand why would the developer strive to make a very good visual looking game and them bloat it with damage numbers and health bars
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ac050a No.16773798
>>16773613
It doesn't, but a lot of games are filled with propaganda now. Based on that video there's no politics and nothing that stands out as bad with the gameplay. People are just taking the
>/v/ hates games
meme seriously it seems. Kinda like how you're taking the
/v/ is autistic
meme seriously
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080302 No.16773835
>>16773576
>>16773633
>>16773798
Stop. Not being preached to is a basic expectation of a game, not a selling point. There are thousands of indie games made every year that have no political messaging, it's not noteworthy.
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17fc22 No.16773846
>>16773835
no one was saying that though
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49e61a No.16774089
>>16773846
It's not about what's being said but rather what these idiots want to read. They aren't here to talk about vydia, they are here to talk about talking about vydia. Keep that into consideration before replying to them again.
>>16773623
>It's done to artificially increase the playtime.
Not necessarily, but it's often the case, yes.
You have the example of Borderlands where most bosses do have a ridiculous health pool for the sake of making their fights longer since they don't actually have anything interesting happening in them (and even then, they aren't THAT high unless you're severely under-leveled there).
Then you have the example of Shadow Warrior 2 where every enemy has health bars but most of the fodder you meet dies fast and the actual health sponges tend to be actual bosses or have some gimmick puzzle to it, usually killing the nearby minions first or simply using the correct elemental type to handle them.
It becomes far more noticeable at higher difficulty levels where, if you're not using the right element a fight can take most of your ammo but once you use whatever the enemy is weak against, it goes down far faster.
It's nothing too amazing but at least it turns the entire health sponge issue into a puzzle you can figure out and it's cool that there's some logic to it (fire enemies resist fire and are weak to ice, ice enemies resist ice and are weak to fire) and they often pair them together so you need to track and focus the right enemy while switching weapons around.
There's also a very important distinction to be made about these 2 examples and something like Destiny since these are still single-player focused games with co-op on the side and therefore they don't have the morbid need of taking several months of your life to complete, unlike Destiny and similar games that actually are MMOs and need to justify playing them for as long as possible, where they'll crank up the health sponges to 11.
Basically, health sponges in single player can sometimes be a symptom that you're not playing right while in multiplayer it's a symptom that the game you're playing doesn't actually have that much content to keep you busy.
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