ed6017 No.16763505[Last 50 Posts]
All of VNN's leaks were true, it's a VR spinoff with Alyx as the protag.
https://archive.fo/l61f6
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e1be2f No.16763514
from what I understand it's going to be a prequel to HL2 following a younger Alyx, probably with a lot of stealth sections since she's fragile as fuck because womyn lol. it's going to bomb hard because volvo hasn't made a real game since Portal 2, and even then they just brought on modders and told them to make a sequel to a game they already have. all the talent left years ago when they realized that nothing was getting worked on and nobody could get enough traction behind a new idea because of the communistic work format they have in place. if it's also VR exclusive or with very poor KBM controls/support they'll be shooting themselves in the foot even more, then use it as an excuse to never make a gaym again and just stick to selling other's people's shit for eternity because nobody in their right mind is going to pay $1000 for their VR system and deal with the headaches of setting up the 50 different sensors, getting cables out of the way, then buying 5 new grafics cards for another few thousand dollars. it could be the most accurate and realistic one available right now which it might actually be since the vive was much better than the oculus but valve's been trying to get into hardware since steam machines and we all know how well those worked out.
it's a shame really, years ago I would've loved to work there, but seeing how they've turned out there could never be enough big pink cookies to make it palpable.
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864242 No.16763532
>>16763514
>volvo hasn't made a real game since Portal 2
I guess Dota, Underlords and CS:GO don't count?
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e1be2f No.16763533
>>16763532
no, they don't
Dota was a mod, they just hired the modders to make a sequel like they've done with everything else
CS:GO was done by Turtle Rock, Valve only published it
Underlords is the only exception, but it's mobile-tier and was thrown together only because of Autochess being Epic exclusive.
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864242 No.16763535
>>16763533
>CS:GO was done by Turtle Rock, Valve only published it
What the actual fuck are you talking about? You're confusing L4D for Counterstrike.
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e1be2f No.16763540
>>16763535
could've sword it was turtle rock, I know they did CS:S (I think, maybe I'm just retarded), but
>Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS:GO) is a multiplayer first-person shooter video game developed by Hidden Path Entertainment and Valve Corporation.
When they say developed by Valve, it probably means they just did some of the light lifting in terms of optimization.
The point is it's been a longass time since Valve has made a proper game, but someone suggested that they may be releasing this half-life-game-but-not-really as a way to kill the hype somewhat for the inevitable HL3 so it actually has reasonable expectations, kind of like Metroid Prime: Federation Force (even though that was pushed as an actual game, it did clear the way for Samus Returns to get more realistic reviews)
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86ad34 No.16763544
Does anyone even care anymore? Anyone who played half life 2 hated it, and anyone who played half life 1 is too old to give a shit about a shitty VR nugame
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864242 No.16763549
>>16763540
>When they say developed by Valve, it probably means they just did some of the light lifting in terms of optimization.
Hidden Path did the original version of the game when it was little more than a port of CS: Source, modern CS:GO is entirely Valve's creation.
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e1be2f No.16763556
>>16763549
>add new loot boxes and skins made by the community every few months
>add new maps made by the community every few months
>add a new gamemode for the first time in a decade just because it's what the KEWL kids are doing
>make the game F2P and wonder why there are so many hackers
>make changes to weapons/maps/UI a few times a year that nobody asked for
yep sounds like valve
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e1be2f No.16763570
>>16763533
CSGO is done by Hidden Path Entertainment
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864242 No.16763579
>>16763570
Only the very original version was, and even then it was still co-made with Valve
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17fee8 No.16763580
>>16763505
Nobody fucking cares about nu-Valve nowadays. They just turned into shit since the release of Dota 2 and CSGO.
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864242 No.16763665
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e1be2f No.16763795
first impressions, it's surreal seeing City 17 after all these years, grafics look pretty good, they're going for a style reminiscient of Nazi occupied Paris with the WWII-esque combine uniforms and bulky prototype armor, weapons, and enemies. closest I can compare it to is wolfenstein.
as I predicted Source 2 is mostly backend improvements to update the archaic tools from Source, Hammer looks a lot more in-depth (cluttered) and modders are probably going to have a lot of fun.
that's about the best I can say
<floating hands
<VR only, no KBM support
<VR looked gimmicky and buggy even in the trailer
<physically moving around in-game is going to be a bitch, website says you can just teleport around if you want to which takes away the purpose of an FPS
<WEAPON SKINS IN A SINGLE-PLAYER GAME
<going to sell gangbusters because dude half-life even though it's going to be a fucking shitshow on launch where nothing works right
https://www.half-life.com/en/alyx/
https://www.half-life.com/en/alyx/vr
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e1be2f No.16763818
I wonder if it will even be worth it to get a new SFM model. Unlikely.
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94f6bc No.16763821
She actually looks like a typical racially diverse female (man) in this picture. But I guess you could say the same about the original.
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e1be2f No.16763831
>>16763818
>>16763821
alyx is actually a well-written character though and hot
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94f6bc No.16763837
>>16763831
Let's see if you still think that after the reddit treatment.
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e1be2f No.16763843
Trailer was better than I expected. At least it looks like a Half-Life game. But I didn't see anything to suggest it wouldn't be just another on rails, awkward to play VR game.
Best case scenario, this game and mods for it consume whatever tiny amount of potential VR games have and everyone stops trying to make it the next big thing.
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e1be2f No.16763844
>>16763837
she looks fine from the promo art and it couldn't possibly be any worse than how fakefactory molested her
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4a49d0 No.16763851
>>16763821
>>16763837
She looks fine, anon.
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94f6bc No.16763906
>>16763844
>>16763851
Do you guys even read? The guy specifically talked about her being well-written and that is what I replied to, implying that the the game will be badly written in current year.
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4a49d0 No.16763966
>>16763906
Why would she be badly written? It's the same writers as the previous games.
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e0cf37 No.16763970
>New Half-Life confirmed
>VR spin off
I'm glad I never had any investment in this series.
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f6f1d0 No.16763979
>>16763821
>Report the vort
lmao
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4a49d0 No.16763998
>>16763970
Devs said it's not a spin off, whatever they mean by that.
>>16763979
Somebody remade that poster.
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6d2aac No.16764002
each halflife has about half as much life left in it. maybe all sequels of all types, including prequels, are like that.
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4e3145 No.16764042
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a7bc13 No.16764055
It looks like a generic VR game
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e0cf37 No.16764057
>>16763998
>Devs said it's not a spin off, whatever they mean by that.
They don't want it to be called one, but that literally is what it is. A non-mainline game taking place in the same world that has gameplay different from the core gameplay of the series. Anything "VR", no matter how much it tries to ape other genres, is fundamentally different from them.
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4a49d0 No.16764108
>>16764057
> A non-mainline game taking place
Okay, it's time for some spoilers.
The game has time travel. It's not just a prequel. Go back and listen to the trailer, you'll notice two distinct voices for Alyx. One is the new VA, that's young Alex, the other is the original VA for "old" Alyx. Elements from EP2 come into play.
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4a49d0 No.16764155
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but here's one of the new enemies.
You can only briefly see it at the very start of the trailer, it seems to be some kind of lightning-based alien.
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a432c5 No.16764157
>>16764108
She also has a gravity glove.
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78ead0 No.16764178
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e2ce67 No.16764265
>waiting 12 years for this
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4e3145 No.16764305
>>16764265
>Coomer told us
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117b7a No.16764310
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8f8cd3 No.16764642
>>16764265
>Valve made game to go with their VR headset
>the headset's sales increase
>wow
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464994 No.16764670
VR means it's a big no no, boomerino.
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464994 No.16764675
>>16764265
>Coomer
Reality is merging.
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8e8413 No.16764753
>>16764265
>younger Alyx
Wait, so does this mean HL is going away from silent protagonists now? Oh boy, can't wait for all of the cringe, since you are bound to be waiting like 20 minutes before you can progress to the next waiting section.
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dd7f17 No.16764765
I want to know what this game brings to the table that Boneworks isn't doing better. As far as I can tell from the trailer, Boneworks will be the superior game in terms of TECHNOLOGY, thanks to the interaction system in that game.
I suppose the best thing HL:A is doing is bringing a flood of new players to VR just so they can play this game. That influx of customers is a huge boon for every other VR developer, since VR's biggest difficulty has been attracting a large enough audience to justify development of more games/hardware.
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8e8413 No.16764789
>>16764765
I would say that the price tag is the biggest difficulty for VR, since nobody is going to want to pay $400 to be able to have the chance to pay an extra $20 to play VR Counter-Strike.
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8f8cd3 No.16764982
VNN says Valve has sold more Index units in the past ten days than they previously sold in its entire lifespan.
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1afe4a No.16765220
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ddf2e8 No.16765242
>New Half-Life game.
>It's Not Half-Life 3.
>It's a spin off starring Alyx.
>It's a VR game.
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299a80 No.16765266
inb4 they use the shitty meme "LOL TELEPORT WHER YOU POINT" controls
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8f8cd3 No.16765267
>>16765266
Did you not read the press release? They have several movement options.
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10891b No.16765281
>>New Half-Life game.
>>It's Not Half-Life 3.
>>It's a spin off starring Alyx.
>>It's a VR game.
so this is how the half life legacy is killed
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4442b7 No.16765318
>value of VR is enhanced immersion
>instantly take people out of their immersion by making them play a voiced character
The game looks alright, and it's clearly going to be a short trial run so Valve can acquaint themselves with VR design, but that seems like a misstep right off the bat. Probably not a decision the people who actually made the old HL games would have made, hmm?
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1afe4a No.16765372
>New Half-Life Title
>Its a VR game
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ba317a No.16765401
The only important thing I care about is where is all the alyx porn? You lads have really dropped the ball during your time off.
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6e5e95 No.16765409
>>16765401
I'd have drawn all the porn lewds you want had it been a vortigaunt, a head crab, an antlion, or that Skitch cutie as the protagonist.
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ba317a No.16765410
>>16765409
I am disappointed in you anon, you should realise by now, it is not about the porn, it is about the message…
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6e5e95 No.16765420
>>16765410
I'm sending the message that xenos are pretty cool and hot.
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000000 No.16765430
>>16765401
there's a decent amount on rule34.xxx, but a lot of it is shitty gmod poses
now that she's back in the spotlight there will probably be a lot more made within the next few months
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ba317a No.16765431
>>16765420
>not wanting to trigger the tards at valve by making lewds of Alyx
>>16765430
We can only hope.
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6e5e95 No.16765433
>>16765431
That's an appealing thought, but would they really be triggered?
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ba317a No.16765441
>>16765433
Maybe, if nothing else journalists would be pissed. My hopes however is a situation like that maker of bioshock infinite being buttmad about people making porn of Elizabeth.
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7c7a79 No.16765464
>>16763821
Is the art implying Alyx is not anti-citizen in this game? it would be cool switching between being a citizen trying to stay out of trouble like the first few minutes of HL2 and the regular shooter action.
>Shoot up a building
>Blow up whatever combine tech
>take mask off
>walk away as you see the combine rushing inside
I just want more chillin' in dystopia city.
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efe760 No.16765513
>>16765281
Gabe decided that Reddit was catching onto the fact that HL3 is never coming out and decided to make a spinoff to bring the retards back.
>>16765464
>"Concept art is a form of illustration used to convey an idea for use in films, video games, animation, comic books, or other media before it is put into the final product."
The art looks more like fanart than actual concept, since in the drawing she gets to stand right next to an armed combine in the middle of action with no consequences whatsoever (in a spot where it is very clear that she is visible). In fact, they don't even bother to ensure that she stays at a safe distance from them. So what idea is put forward in this? It's either that Alyx is a exempt from the oppression or, the more likely scenario, Alyx is a strong womyn that don't need no Freeman because the artist thought it would make her look cool.
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666495 No.16766379
>>16764265
>Wolfenstein II and Mirror's Edge: Catalyst
Just because a character is younger in the setting doesn't mean you need a new VA. No doubt we're in for some "hilarious" snarky remarks.
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8f8cd3 No.16766385
>>16766379
She's not even young, she's fucking 40, not much younger than the original VA.
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8f8cd3 No.16766389
>>16765513
>Gabe decided that Reddit was catching onto the fact that HL3 is never coming out and decided to make a spinoff to bring the retards back.
Why does everybody blame reddit for everything, you're giving them too much credit.
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efe760 No.16766483
>>16766389
>reddit is a marketing website with retards that pay money for gold stars on their posts (ie. throwing money away on useless shit) so pandering to them has a fairly clear monetary incentive
>they also buy into the meme that Valve can do no wrong
>they have a subreddit that has up until confirmation for HL:A eaten up any old poorly photoshopped "leaks" thinking they are true
>it is simply easier to monitor activity on Reddit
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69b7c0 No.16766562
>>16766389
This guy is spot on: >>16766483
Reddit is just the general population. They're mindless sheep who believe and buy whatever they're told. Gaming website says new Half Life game is a big deal? They now love it. Other gaming website says VR is good? They all go out and buy VR. They are consumer sheep. It's very profitable to market to them. People like us aren't profitable to advertise to because we ask questions. Corporate kikes want people who ask little and spend a lot.
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efe760 No.16766612
>>16766562
I wouldn't even say that they are the general population, since the general population is at least marginally functional.
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d96003 No.16766638
I guess this is the big killer app VR needs to stay alive. Will be interesting to see what happens with HL: Alyx. Crysis was a big benchmark game for years on PC and probably shifted some hardware just so people could see the GRAFFIX. This might be similar, but to play Half Life.
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2bb03a No.16766650
>>16766612
> the general population is at least marginally functional.
No. I've met a lot of people at my job, and very few are functional. Kids with social awkwardness and hyperfocus on meme shit, people with a disorder that demands that they boast about themselves at every opportunity, huge insecurity masked by a fake air of competance and forwardness, general borderline insanity related to existing mental problems like psychopathy and sociopathy, a lot of people are in a bad way.
Very few people these days are sane, just barely kept in check by peer pressure and familial obligations.
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80cd2e No.16766677
This whole Alyx game has brought my piss to a boil. Did you see Valve News Network Guy's reaction? It's fucking pathetic. How many years has that neckbearded retard been disappointed and he's still expecting something good? He still expects this to be what he was "waiting" for for all these years? And the redditors and facepunchers who are throwing their shit and chimping out in excitement, holy crap. I feel as if most of those massive faggots weren't even Half Life fans when the first two games came out and are just "riding the hype train" so-to-speak, pretending like they were waiting for sooo long, just like the meme we can't get enough of says. God I hate normalfags so much.
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970c7e No.16766895
>>16765318
Now that you make me think of it, this title is basically going against both the peripherals and the tone of the main series since Freeman is an extension of the player.
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f02f1e No.16766923
>>16765318
>>16766895
Huh. That's actually a good point.
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512a3f No.16766941
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I'm sure it will be shit. VR is awful for shooting games, just look at how ridiculous nuDoom VR is.
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ed851d No.16766998
>>16766941
Play a non shit shooter in VR
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512a3f No.16767049
>>16766998
Feel free to recommend some.
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792386 No.16767166
>It would take like 35 minutes max for Valve to texture the crowbar in TF2's files and make it a "promotional item".
>Sorry no tf2's on hold lol
>Instead of trying to unfuck the situation with Meat Your Match and Jungle Inferno they've decided it's a sign people don't like tf2
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f5b662 No.16767861
>>16764265
>Coomer
Meme magik is still very much real.
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9f0466 No.16768305
>>16766562
>People like us aren't profitable to advertise to because we ask questions.
Indians advertise games for cents and even a single sale is worth it you literal fucking street shitter that's at least 2% jewish
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0324ed No.16768309
>>16766998
I'm already playing Doom in it though.
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8f8cd3 No.16768328
>>16767166
That's not really Valve's fault. Apparently Robin Walker is a complete bitch to work with and has de facto rule over TF2 despite Valve having flat management.
Valve hasn't forgotten about TF2, it's that nobody wants to deal with Walker so everybody ends up working on CS, Dota 2, Alyx or Underlords instead.
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2c0eb0 No.16768348
>>16767049
Boneworks VR doesn't look too bad. It's probably mostly tech and the gameplay wouldn't hold up on its own, but as a proof of concept for VR shooters it MIGHT be OK. Certainly a million times better than whatever that doom garbage is.
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d9e448 No.16768355
>new half life
>starring Alyx the turbo cunt
>won't be a silent protagonist
>voice by a nigger
>made by nu-valve
>VR based game
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1ef6cc No.16768357
>>16768348
>It's probably mostly tech and the gameplay wouldn't hold up on its own, but as a proof of concept for VR shooters it MIGHT be OK. Certainly a million times better than whatever that doom garbage is.
a shooter needs to be simple. look at counterstrike. boneworks looks like the fucking knuckles controllers: technically impressive, garbage and pointless for gameplay.
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16e93c No.16768362
>>vr is 1% of the market
>>index is NOT for the masses but the enthusiast
>>much loved series return with fucking exclusivity
i am not interested in getting specialized motion controls and strap on applied directly to the forehead so just i could open doors more realistically, this simulation thing goes only that far to be engaging gameplay
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d1b7d4 No.16769615
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beccd9 No.16770122
>>16768362
>much loved series return with fucking exclusivity
so pretty much what lot of people said valve should do to boost hardware sales and shit on epic in one fell swoop?
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beccd9 No.16770124
>>16770122
>>16768362
forgot to add, just be glad it's a spinoff/prequel
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c614c8 No.16770129
>>16764265
>top selling
Would be useful if it was based on volume instead of profit.
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c1b76d No.16770134
>>16768328
Wait, so TF2 problems are from Robin Walker? I Never heard about him. Tell us more about him. What makes him hard to work with him?
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d54751 No.16770204
>>16768355
I suggest you contemplate what you own, my gentile friendo.
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8f8cd3 No.16770235
>>16770134
He was one of the original Team Fortress guys. He helped made the Quake mod in the 90's and was the lead dev on TF2.
His design philosophy has become pants-on-heads retarded in regards to TF2. He constantly butts heads with the newer employees over changes, all new weapons have to be "unique" or some kind of supportive addition,
TF2 has a dev version with every single scrapped item, weapon, skin and taunt they've ever developed. People who've played this version while on tours to Valve say there are enough fully complete weapons for Valve to make an entirely new update for each class. They never end up getting shipped because of Robin Walker and some of the other older TF2 devs, but mostly Walker.
That's why Jungle Inferno was such a lackluster piece of shit, and it's why they added such worthless weapon like the Gas Passer. It fits his "muh supportive sidegrades" philosophy.
Everything from hereon is hearsay, so take it with a pinch of salt.
Reportedly, they once developed a Scout weapon that functioned kind of like the Crusader's Crossbow. It was a single-shot shotgun that fired one non-hitscan projectile.
It did more damage than the regular Scattergun and the damage dropoff was almost nonexistent with the downsides of a lower DPS, significantly higher skill required and less ammo. The idea was a weapon that complemented the Scout's pistols more, this thing easily did 100 damage mid-range so a few shots with any pistol and one sting of this new shotgun would be a deadly combo, but it didn't break Scout's balance because of how inconvenient constant reloading would be for those who primarily used Scatterguns. This new combo would require the player to more carefully choose battles as the lower DPS hampered Scout's ability to fight multiple people at once.
It was warmly received around Valve, but Walker felt it made it too difficult to counter a high skill Scout. You see, another autistic part of his precious design philosophy is the idea of hard counters: skill shouldn't be the be all end all of a fight, counters matter more.
If you have a good Scout fighting a mediocre Soldier, the Soldier should generally win because he's meant to counter "squishy" classes. That's actually what he believes, TF2 was built around this idea and he doesn't like budging from it. He hated items like the Spy-cicle and that's a big reason he's so against new weapons that might break his retarded game of rock paper scissors. If you were good at leading shots, this weapon let good Scouts excel at picking off lone wolves that are meant to counter him.
And thus, this new Scout primary was pushed into the drawers of scrapped TF2 weapons.
This exact situation has happened a lot, so most Valve employees don't bother working on TF2 anymore.
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e595ec No.16770243
>>16770235
>there are enough fully complete weapons for Valve to make an entirely new update for each class. They never end up getting shipped because of Robin Walker and some of the other older TF2 devs, but mostly Walker.
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000000 No.16770287
>>16770235
>skill shouldn't be the be all end all of a fight, counters matter more.
isn't that what makes TF2 so unique in the first place? between random crits and the relatively low skill ceiling for new players, there's still a chance for everyone to win a fight no matter who it's against, be it a scout on adderall covered in neon green and pink cosmetics with his twitch channel in his name or a solider who just installed the game 10 minutes ago. skill is an integral part of the game, but there are also some examples of matchups that you just can't win no matter how hard you try (like the natascha being a weapon solely for countering scouts)
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c1b76d No.16770291
>>16770235
I agree with his view on counters…but why not try to balance said weapons better for it then? Doesnt he get that game needs new updates, and that people like weapons that are cool? Fuck this No-Hierarchy shit on Valve. Makes more harm than good.
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941a75 No.16770307
>>16770235
>That's why Jungle Inferno was such a lackluster piece of shit, and it's why they added such worthless weapon like the Gas Passer. It fits his "muh supportive sidegrades" philosophy.
Let me stop you right there, only the Gas Passer and the Hot Hand are truly useless from Jungle Inferno. First off, The Gas Passer is actually the best secondary for MvM Pyros (remember that gamemode? i do) because it can do AoE damage without setup, making the Pyro the premier mass medic killer now, but its not really important. Honestly, they should really add in that fucking AoE explosion, but weaker ofc into the normal gamemode already. Since it's completely useless outside of MvM Second, The Hot Hand is a meme weapon and any other Pyro melee is mostly useless / irrelevant in direct combat since they're used for heh complement your playstyle.
Here's what i meant, the Powerjack gives you a bonus speed boost. A simple bonus but almost everyone uses them due to how useful a 10% speed is to getting faster. The Axtinguisher, also gives you a bonus speed boost, but you need to kill an enemy to get it. It also does more burst damage than the flamethrower but it's situational so you cannot rely on it as a primary damage dealer. Finally the most underrated of pyro's melee, the Backscratcher, gives you more health from medkits and less from medics / dispensers. making you more independent from medics.
All the above are what Robin wanted, a 'supportive addition'. That's a GOOD thing, and heck it adds more to the Pyro's playstyle than an otherwise useless melee slot.
Now let's get back to the topic of Jungle Inferno weapons, since we've already crossed the Gas Passer and Meme Slap from the List, i'm gonna talk about how they ruined the Dragon's Fury, his Jetpack, and Heavy's banana.
>Dragons Fury
This thing used to be the bane of heavies everywhere. At release, the hitbox of this thing is very generous, making a semi-decent pyro being able to tear down Heavies (their counter) but also Sentries since it has more range, damage (due to how damage are calculated to buildings than players). However, it turned him into a free target for Soldiers or Demosdue to how slow the fucking airblast is. They should really change the airblast penalty more in line with the primary fire, make that you also get a faster airblast cooldown upon successful reflects instead of how anemic it is right now.
Unfortunately, they changed the hitbox into retardedly inconsistent, making the damage bonus out of the window thanks to it not working most of the time. So into the garbage pile it goes.
>Jetpack
Trully a game changer, it pretty much removes one of Pyro's weakness that is its mediocre mobility into one of its defining features of the playstyle. You can jump across a third of the map with this thing and with almost no health penalty whatsoever. Thus, with this thing one, you can close the gap almost instantly provided you have the time to change weapons first. BUT it takes up the secondary slot, forcing you to rely more on the primary for damage. This thing also has flaws, since it takes time to deploy, launch, and requires a significant cooldown after use.
So think of it less of a Gunboats, but more of Demoman's shield with Vertical movement.
>Banana
Pretty much how a perfect sidegrade to the Sandvich. More health for the heavy, faster cooldown, but gives weak medkit for teammates.
Yeah that's about it, however it does gives more option to a solo Heavy since this thing can heal 200 HP with an 8 sec cool down compared to 20 sec of the sandvich. Thus making the heavy able to contest a point from stragglers a lot longer than any of his sandvich does.
So yeah, Robin's ideas are on the right track. He wants 'unique' weapons since back in 2011-2012, there was a whole slew of completely uninspired weapons. -20% damage this, but +25 fire rate that, or a completely useless usage whatsoever. i think the Liberty Launcher was the poster child of 'uninspired' sidegrades. And the 'supportive' sidegrades are great, what the fuck are you talking about? Have you never heard of Sniper's secondaries, Soldier's banners, Demo's shields, or Engie's secondaries? Their only usage are as a supportive addition to the class' playstyle
Since some people are faggots and might not read my wall of text, here's my tl;dr. Also i'm not gonna talk about the 'proposed scout primary' since it's just a bunch of hullabaloo
>tl;dr: Not all Jungle Inferno weapons are useless and Supportive sidegrades are alright since not all them have to be like Scout's Pistols or Demo's stickies. Robin might a be a faggot but he's not all shit.
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6cf647 No.16770316
>>16763505
>Alyx as the protag
because bulldykes sell games nowadays?
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000000 No.16770333
>>16770307
>First off, The Gas Passer is actually the best secondary for MvM Pyros (remember that gamemode? i do) because it can do AoE damage without setup, making the Pyro the premier mass medic killer now
>he doesn't remember the third degree
crank up the attack speed on it and pyro was the medic destroyer, leaving the demo to stickybomb larger groups
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8f8cd3 No.16770338
>>16770316
Do you even know what a bulldyke is?
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efe760 No.16770356
>>16767166
Valve doesn't even need to do it, there are thousands of people that do this shit for them for FREE.
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8f8cd3 No.16770361
>>16770307
> And the 'supportive' sidegrades are great, what the fuck are you talking about? Have you never heard of Sniper's secondaries, Soldier's banners, Demo's shields, or Engie's secondaries? Their only usage are as a supportive addition to the class' playstyle
This is where I think you lost my post. He's only interested in supportive weapons. Things like that aren't easy to balance or make useful.
"An offensive sidegrade? Fffffuck that" is the general sentiment, you even gave an example of that yourself with the Dragon's Fury. They had something that was cool, then nerfed it into a downgrade.
You can only have so many supportive weapons before you start to run out of ideas, the Gas Passer is the third throwable AOE debuff now. Third.
There were tons of offensive ideas for the Medic, but they all get thrown out. One of which was a Medi Gun that could do damage, the more you healed the more "ammo" you gained. The ratio of healing to damage was something like 10:1 When fired it shot out a short constant beam of damage that shot through enemies, kind of like the flamethrower, but it did more and more damage the more you healed.
It got scrapped because the old TF2 devs fucking hate the idea of a Battle Medic.
Or how about all the different Wrenches for the Engineer? Ones that could make little robots that would follow other players to give them buffs or help them attack. So many great ideas just cut.
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ed851d No.16770377
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000000 No.16770396
>>16770316
alyx is actually fun and attractive though
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143868 No.16770407
>>16770338
Ever notice it's much easier for a dyke to look like a man than it is for a fag to look like a chick?
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598201 No.16770653
>>16763505
Gaben might as well slap Half Life fans with his dick and charge them 60 bucks for it because it's basically as bad as this garbage.
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d3f999 No.16770966
>>16770307
Sandman, Ullapool Caber, the Loch n Load, the Equalizer (particular sadness for this one), the Axetinguisher, the GRU, the Powerjack, the Pain Train, the Shortstop, Reserve Shooter, Half fucking Zatoichi, Dead Ringer, and the list goes on and on. All victims of Robin Walker's terrible idea of 'balance'
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000000 No.16770985
>>16770966
most (if not all) of those ideas came from the community (reddit) I'm pretty sure
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941a75 No.16771088
>>16770333
But Mr. Trips, you can do that without having the spend a crit canteen.
>>16770361
>This is where I think you lost my post. He's only interested in supportive weapons. Things like that aren't easy to balance or make useful.
Do you have any source on this? All i got from his supposed 'prefered' way to balance things came form an interview from 2008. By the way, the man wasn't even on the TF team during 2015 since he got pulled into working at Dota
>"An offensive sidegrade? Fffffuck that" is the general sentiment, you even gave an example of that yourself with the Dragon's Fury. They had something that was cool, then nerfed it into a downgrade.
But what about
<Iron Bomber
<Quickiebomb Launcher
<Panic Attack
All of them are offensive sidegrades. They're the most recent 'offensive sidegrade' after Jungle Inferno, they're 3 years from Jungle Inferno but i blame Valve for being so slow at adding content. Those 3 are literally what you want, and they got added so its definitely not a general sentiment, else they probably add a banana or something.
>You can only have so many supportive weapons before you start to run out of ideas, the Gas Passer is the third throwable AOE debuff now. Third.
My problem with the Gas Passer is that the AoE debuff is fucking useless and it needs to be charged up by dealing damage. I don't really care about it being a Jarate 3.0 since i can use literally every other Pyro secondary.
>There were tons of offensive ideas for the Medic, but they all get thrown out. One of which was a Medi Gun that could do damage, the more you healed the more "ammo" you gained. The ratio of healing to damage was something like 10:1 When fired it shot out a short constant beam of damage that shot through enemies, kind of like the flamethrower, but it did more and more damage the more you healed.
<My totally OC idea for medic is for him to be a pyro but shittier!
STOPPED READING RIGHT THERE RETARD
They know it's shit, so they didn't bothered with it
>>16770966
Again, from where did you get this info that Robin Walker hates Primary Sidegrades? Also not all of the changes are bad.
>Sandman
Agreed, but blame the community for making a big stink about it
>Ullapool Caber
Pretty much the only thing that i agree with 100%, they ruined the fucking thing
>Loch-n-Load
They shouldn't have added the third grenade, waaaaay back. Should've stuck with 2
>Equalizer
Fuck off, it's better now. Past Equalizer is just too useful for its own good with almost no downside whatsoever.
>Axtinguisher
Not as good as 2010 days, but it's better than the 2015 days where it's literally garbage incarnate. Kinda miss the 2010 version but the new one will do i guess.
>The GRU
Agreed
>The Powerjack
Are you talking out of your ass? This thing was better now since it does that Robin Walker's 'terrible' supportive sidegrade idea by giving a speed boost when active instead of it being a discount half zatoichi. Still, they nerfed the health gain too much. Maybe a +40 to+50 range is fair compared to the tiny +25 hp
>Pain Train
THIS THING NEVER CHANGED FROM RELEASE YOU NIGGER
>The Shortstop
They ruined it the same way the 'ruined' the Bison, the """""""""fixed"""""""" the reloading bug
>Reserve Shooter
Blame the community for making a big stink about it.
>Half Zatoichi
It's better now, for hybrid knights atleast. Not so much for pure demoknights.
>Dead Ringer
THIS THING IS A 'SUPPORTIVE SIDEGRADE' OR WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU CALLED IT, WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS OUT OF ALL OF SPY'S WEAPONS?
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44cda9 No.16771304
>>16763966
HL doesn't even have much dialogue. Most of the story is usually played out in the player's surroundings.
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44cda9 No.16771307
>>16770316
Reminder: Alyx was a nigger in hl2beta.
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2c0eb0 No.16771309
>>16767166
Just saying, it would be MUCH smarter to wait to do promotional items like that until closer to the actual release. Do we even have a date right now? I'm assuming 2023
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21d79e No.16771326
>>16771307
She's a ranga, though. Putting redheads on the same level as blacks is a bit insulting, don't you think?
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8f8cd3 No.16771367
>>16771088
Jesus Christ anon calm down, me and the other anon are trying to talk to you, not have autistic rants.
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941a75 No.16771688
>>16771367
>t. retard that can't read more than 2 sentences a post
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788cce No.16771707
>>16767049
Doom 3 Repossessed, also saying a fps is worse in VR shows how you totally dont have VR. Stay poor /v/fag
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b75a29 No.16771744
>>16771707
>Doom 3
>a non shit shooter
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8f8cd3 No.16771761
>>16771744
I'm seeing a weird meme lately where people act like Doom 3 is good.
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47d0b3 No.16781535
>>16763821
this does not look fine, this looks like an asian man
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7e66f0 No.16781541
>>16781535
It's just a painting
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6cf647 No.16781555
>>16781541
painting of asian/ mixed race man
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792386 No.16781556
>>16771761
Maybe the apocolyptic fuckup bethesda did injecting drm into the original doom gave people severe brain damage.
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2f2193 No.16781695
Looks like whoever wrote this game did not do their homework. Why would the Combine construct a Citadel on Earth when they could just teleport the whole thing there?
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7c7a79 No.16782874
>>16781695
A big part of the Combine is corporate efficiency, they use overwhelming force to take over the earth, but then leave a garrison force that is only exactly as small as they can afford to save on resources, they bring all the tech they can't make on earth but use human trains because the infrastructure is already there.
Why teleport a whole Citadel when you can make one on-site for cheaper? Why keep the alien army on earth when they could be put to better use conquering some other place?
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7e66f0 No.16782875
>>16781695
The Combine are known to utilize whatever resources and infrastructure they have on a host planet. Do you not remember the old prison they reclaimed as a base?
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4ca7d0 No.16791134
>>16763505
alright who's going to bet that this game will flop? It won't be as big as Artifact was though,
I bet my fucking digits on it
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dd42ae No.16791311
>>16791194
do you have a single fact to back that up?
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fa7fed No.16791313
>>16791194
>>16791134
what is it with retards that still don't know that valve operates completely different than other companies? MUH ARTIFACT means fuck all when HLA has a different demographic
also
>vr is a niche for enthusiasts
>reddit normalfag cattle buying vr
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80cd2e No.16791333
>>16782874
I reckon its the same reasoning you might have in a Total War game where you don't bother putting a huge garrison of troops in a specific settlement if its out of the way and was very easy to occupy.
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e880a9 No.16791356
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f5b662 No.16793157
>THINKING IT WILL BE GOOD
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d1307a No.16793235
>>16791356
>knowing it's origin in the first place
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0324ed No.16793246
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77f667 No.16793254
>nigra protagonist for the current year
woke
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0324ed No.16793260
>>16793254
She's existed since 2004, nigger.
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356f95 No.16793265
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7e66f0 No.16799876
I'm honestly shocked how little Valve is talking about this game.
It comes out in a few months, for God's sake.
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2b4025 No.16799881
only dumbfuck redditors still care about halflife
half life 2 is and always was shit btw
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c99942 No.16799885
>>16799881
^ this
Half life 2 is overrated likely by the same types who thought the Halo series was a unique gift to gaming. It's a fun game but nothing spectacular
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24177f No.16799889
The two anons above me are a samefag. Beware their faggotry.
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4ca36d No.16799903
>>16799889
They're eternal faggots but not wrong though really, HL2's longevity was mostly because of modding. It's a really linear affair aside from the "wow it's fucking nothing" hub areas.
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264471 No.16799934
>>16799903
longevity isn't popularity tho.
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4ca36d No.16799937
>>16799934
You're a fucking idiot, one for caring a fuck about popularity and not realizing that is large part of why it's remained known.
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7e66f0 No.16799952
>>16799937
What are you even talking about? I'm not sure what you're argument is meant to be
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ff60ba No.16799958
>>16763580
This.
One thing I noticed is that once a company makes a piece of shit kiked game that anyone who likes some damn gameplay would hate, they don't stop. There must be an event inside Valve that caused the change in the company and the release of abysmal games such as DOTA 2 and CS:GO.
For instance everything Rockstar made after GTA San Andreas is so garbage because they made their talent slave away for no benefit during the development of it and the previous games, and during GTA4's development their developers united and requested better treatment, but Rockstar gave 0 shits and just fired them all, leading to that unplayable and unfun garbage. From then on everything Rockstar made was made with a fresh supply of CS grads working long hours for free.
Then we have studios like Nadeo that made the mistake of allowing Ubisoft to be their publisher, so Ubisoft jewed them until they went bankrupt and then they were bought out by their publisher, leading to nuTrackmania. EA also does this all the time.
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264471 No.16799974
>>16799934
>mods made people remember hl2
>nono, it was it's popularity
>>16799958
look up peter principle, now add idpol shit like gender>merit into the mix and you got the frosting to valve's retarded "flat hierarchy" company structure, which alone would kill any possible game right in the womb.
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