/v/ - Video Games

I hope at least 1 upcoming DLC character will be an actual "literally who" character.

Seeing ignorant retards get mad and go "WHO?" over Dragon Quest & Fatal Fury was already funny enough, I want to see how they would react to a character that is genuinely a irrelevant/obscure nobody.

The sheer frothing anger would be delicious.

>>16763257

Git gud lad

rate

>>16764102

> I'll probably get banned from online if I do

<This fucker is actually forking over money for online play

>Last fighter coming out in February at the latest

>DMC3 for switch coming out in February

>Resident Evil spirits are coming in a few days, showing that possibly Sakurai is working with Capcom again

Maybe something, maybe nothing.

Am I the only person on this planet that is starting to realize that the spirits=deconfirmed "rule" doesn't hold that much ground? With the rumors/coincidences and the Mii hat leak about Geno being one of the first post-FP DLC fighters, it seem like that "rule" is going to be on the many lists of broken rules from past Smash games. Hell, even Gayxplain is starting to catch wind of how questionable the spirits=deconfirmed "rule" is although they don't think that add spirits that weren't in the base game can't become fighters in the future but I half disagree with their statement only if they implied that wave 2 of Smash Ultimate DLC won't have RE fighters in.

>>16764915

>>Last fighter coming out in February at the latest

I think we're going to get FP5 around early January because of how quickly the DLC is coming out recent with Banjo & Terry's releases.

>>DMC3 for switch coming out in February

It a coincidence. Nothing more nothing less but that doesn't mean Dante isn't a candidate of being in wave 2. And personally if Dante does get in, I would love a dual reveal of Doomguy/Doom Slayer and Dante.

>>Resident Evil spirits are coming in a few days, showing that possibly Sakurai is working with Capcom again

Wasn't Capcom working with Sakurai in the base game by giving him Ken as an echo fighter and Rathalos as a boss? If anything, Capcom isn't 100% on board with giving Sakurai and Nintendo any of their characters as DLC yet unless the DLC (i.e. the recent megaman mii costume) is at least successful.

>>16764917

>INB4 we get a Donte spirit battle with Dark Pit being the fighter and the spirit pic is somehow PASBR's Donte

Since Konami, Capcom, SEGA, and SquareEnix got new reps in Ultimate, who will be the new Bamco rep for FP5? Since Lloyd recently got deconfirmed, the rep would have to be from Namco's heavy hitters like Tekken, Soul Calibur, and Dark Souls.

>>16765278

>>16765385

>All these third parties

Posting my 3x3 most wanted:

>Emil from Nier

Everyone loves 2B, and I'd be happy with either, but I think Emil is more quirky, interesting, and unexpected. Not only that, but he could represent both Nier games instead of just Automata.

>Travis Touchdown

We have swordfighters and we have a wrestler character, but Travis could do both in addition to having the power glove and his bike/various mechs, I think he'd be cool.

>Nightmare

Using his SC2 design, of course. Would probably be a slow but heavy fighter with a gimmick similar to Lucario's where he gets more powerful the more he takes damage much like Soul Edge learns the fighting style of its opponents in SoulCalibur lore.

>Robotnik/Eggman

Sonic representation in Smash is pretty weak. I think Eggman would change that and he has interesting moveset potential.

>Decidueye/Sceptile

My weakest choice, but I'll be honest, I hate Incineroar and I'm still salty about him making it in over Decidueye. It also bugs me that we don't have a fully evolved grass starter and at this point at these two seem most likely if that were to happen.

>Byleth from Three Houses

I'd want him/her to be functionally similar to the Pokemon trainer where they can summon Edelgard, Dimitri, or Claude at any given moment, but their final Smash would involve him using whip sword. Would probably have a gimmick involving reverting time via Sothis similar to Shulk's counter.

>Geno

Let's just get him out of the way. However, make Mallow part of his moveset/grabs/taunts in some way, though. No one ever brings up Mallow when discussing Geno in Smash.

>Survivor

Resident Evil rep with multiple skins similar to DQ Hero representing Chris, Jill, Leon, and Claire as well as alternate costumes for said characters. Gameplay would revolve around conserving powerful ammo and healing with a limited amount of herbs/first aid spray. When you run out of ammo, you have to resort to up-close knife attacks.

>Raiden

The Metal Gear Rising rendition. Would have an alt based his appearance in MGS4. Not entirely sure what his gimmick would be. I guess he could gain more powerful, the more up close and personal he gets while fighting. If he avoids landing a hit on the enemy for too long and/or expends too much energy, he becomes noticeably weaker.

>>16770147

What is the best way to play smash bros online multipler but with a hacked switch and a pirated copy?

>>16764125

Gay

>>16770147

>Another fire emblem character after the last one pissed so many people off and was just used as an ad for the game

HAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

>Emile who is a person from a series thats never been on a nintendo console

Also no.

>>16770153

Whats wrong with steve?

His game is on 3 nintendo consoles, MC became and instant classic that affected the gaming industry in a huge way and actually recently became the highest selling videogame of all time.

It had to had sold that much because people like the game right?

>>16770147

>>16770172

>Uniroincally wanting Byleth from 3Hs

LEAVE. AND NEVER EVER COME BACK!!

We have like 7 Fire Emblem swordusers and one of those 7, Robin, uses magic and he still use swords in someway. I don't care if Byleth comes from a good game or not, I'm just sick of having FE swordusers taking up the rosters (Outside of Echo fighters of Marth and Roy since they don't really take up the roster per say) and Corrin is still one of the worst additions of Smash 4. The only new FE rep that I would like to get into Smash Ultimate is non-swordusers that use other weapons like spears, axes, and anyone who's a mage.

>>16765448

Well, they can always use Solaire as an alt costume for Chosen Undead if they ever use CU as the Dark Souls rep.

>>16770163

>Whats wrong with steve?

I don't think Steve himself was a problem but when speculation for who would be in the fighter pass from last year, alot of smashfags wanted Banjo & Kazooie to be in the pass since B&K was a long time requested character but Steve was a big contender for being in the FP and both B&K and Steve were both owned by Microsoft so it was going to be either B&K or Steve. It also doesn't help the fact that there was a group of shitposters who went around using a grotesque model of Steve just for shits & giggles but unfortunately, had evolved into them unironically believing that Steve was a full-on lock despite the fact that there wasn't much going for Steve being in the FP a side from VergeBen's "Minecraft content in Smash Ultimate (Which I still think to this day was based on one of his sources mistaking the Cubivore pig as the same pig from Minecraft) and the 5chan/2chan "leaks" with Erdrick, Doomguy, and Ryu Hayabusa. With all of those fact together, I think that's why there still people to this day that doesn't want Steve in Smash. Still better that having Tracer from OverWatch and a Fortnite rep in Smash Ultimate though, At least Minecraft has a legacy while both OverWatch and Fortnite are fad games that won't be remember as much in the future.

>>16765427

I still think that we're going to get a Bamco rep as the final fighter in the FP despite Vergie's comment about no Bamco rep and after that comment, I'm starting to think that none of the insiders & leakers even know who's FP5. I have a feeling that the last fighter reveal would end up like how Joker from Persona 5 was reveal at Doritos Pope's game awards and everyone, including insiders, got blind sided by that.

Wanted Autism List: 8kun Edition

First Parties:

>Excitebiker

>Takamaru

>Mike (StarTropics)

>Muddy Mole

>Paper Mario

>Dixie Kong

>Arvis (Fire Emblem)

>Heracross (Proper Johto Pokemon)

>Isaac (Golden Sun)

>Masked Link (Majora's Mask)

Third Parties:

>DoomSlayer

>Rayman

>Bub & Bob (Bubble Bobble)

>Kunio (River City Ransom / Downtown Nekketsu)

>Earthworm Jim

>Goemon

>Travis (No More Heroes)

>Ryu Hayabusa

>Prince (Prince of Persia)

>Jack (Madworld)

>Monster Hunter

>Gordon (Half-Life)

>Battletoads

>Dante (Devil May Cry)

>Demi-Fiend (Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne)

>Crash

>Frogger

>Heihachi (Tekken)

>Klonoa

>Lloyd (Tales Of)

>Fulgore (Killer Instinct)

>Rick (Splatterhouse)

>Quote (Cave Story)

>Haggar (Final Fight)

>Bartz or Cecil or Tidus (Final Fantasy)

>Geno (To Show Fan Support)

Potential Non-Video Game Characters (Which We'll Never See):

>Geralt (The Witcher)

>Mickey (Castle of Illusion)

>Pro-Skater (Tony Hawk's Pro Skater)

Could Use Representation Somehow (Fighter, Assist, Stage, Mii Costume, No Spirits):

>Eternal Darkness (Pious Augustus?)

>Marvelous: Another Treasure Island (Stage?)

>Sutte Hakkun (Assist?)

>Plok!

>Adventure Island, Master Higgins

>Maniac Mansion (Stage?)

>Ghosts N' Goblins, Arthur, Firebrand

>Chrono Trigger, Crono

>Lemmings (Mii Costume?)

>Harvest Moon (Mii Costume?)

>Tomb Raider, Lara Croft (?)

If you have any questions about anything in the list, I'll be more than happy to elaborate or explain. I'm also constantly expanding the list, but there are things I am aware of and simply don't want or don't feel would make a good fit.

>>16772531 (1/?)

Some of these I have thought about and I figured I'll share my thoughts on them.

>Ray 01

I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to Custom Robo, but I'll admit have thought about including Ray Mk III at times. This is something I ultimately can't agree or disagree with for the time being, but at the very least I'm fine with Ray being a Mii Costume or Assist.

>Saki

Sadly, if Sin & Punishment had a larger following, substantial impact, or another game coming out, I would more heavily consider it. It doesn't seem to have the cult classic status that games like Majora's Mask have, or even as a wide of a legacy as some games like StarTropics or Mole Mania enjoy being earlier video games on early Nintendo systems. I support him, but it's more of "Character I Would Be Fine With."

>Takamaru

He's already there as second on the First Party list and a character I highly support because he's an early Nintendo character, demonstrates the impact of the Legend of Zelda, and if included with Mike from StarTropics, would highlight the regional differences of the NES and Famicom.

>Wonder Red

Too contemporary for my tastes and largely had no impact on the Wii U itself aside from it's cult classic status. I'd rather prefer Viewtiful Joe or a representation of the Capcom Five in some way, but that's also where my bias shows.

>Lip

I've thought about it, because I like what she would represent and what she could bring to Smash Bros. that being puzzle game representation, but I have difficulty imagining how she would play, so sadly I see her more likely as an assist. Characters like Arle or Bub & Bob might have a better chance for "puzzle" representation because they have other games to borrow further inspiration from.

>Karate Joe

Again, another genre I would like to see representation in (Rhythm Games), but have no idea how it would be realistically implemented. Karate Joe himself also feels somewhat too generic to be in Smash Bros. and I think that's a problem a lot of Rhythm Heaven characters face.

>Chibi-Robo

>Mach Rider

I debated this, as both characters were extremely similar I considered either Mach Rider or Excitebiker, but Excitebiker was the one that ended up winning due to having what I feel is a larger impact and larger status. And I understand Mach Rider's potential for moves in comparison, but a character like Excitebiker could borrow from stunts or bike qualities and sports to use as moves, and a sports character is something Smash Bros. currently lacks.

>Classic Wario (Wario Land Wario)

This is something I desperately want, but then there's the issue of potentially upsetting fans of Wario's current moveset by completing revamping him. Sadly this isn't something I see realistically happening, at least not until the next Smash Bros. and even then it's still a slim chance unless other characters get revamps, but then that also makes it likely a ton of cuts will happen. There's also a lot of characters I want changed in some ways like Samus, Wario just happens to be the biggest example.

>Rex

>Spring Man

Granted, these two could've happened, but it's also why I suggest waiting on bringing any contemporary characters to Smash Bros. until we see the outcome of their legacy and popularity. I just don't feel they'll remain as popular enough or will remain unique enough. It's why I only want characters I consider to be icons, influential to video games overall, or a good representation of what video games can be.

>Krystal

While I like her as a character, I also feel she hasn't been significant enough. Aside from making more kids into furries. And characters like her suffer in a sort of odd limbo where they're from a popular series but not prominent enough to be in Smash Bros but they're also not the main character of an obscure cult classic like Pit was in Brawl or Shulk was in Smash 4.

>Bandana Dee

A character I personally don't want or am personally against, but won't outright deny because he could happen due to being Japan's fan favorite. His chances aren't bad, but they're aren't exceptionally well either.

>>16772531 (2/2)

>Dillon

He's been given 3 games and for some reason still doesn't feel all that prevalent, still as relatively unknown as other eShop titles like Pushmo and Denpa Men. He's in as an assist, and I'm completely fine with that and nothing more, that's actually doing fairly good considering the others in his league have nothing, not even spirits.

>Akira Howard

Again, I'm against contemporary characters until the dust settles and we can judge how influential or iconic they've been, otherwise we end up getting picks like Pichu, Greninja, Incineroar, Robin, Corrin, etc. I'm also very against Rosalina, but at least Super Mario Galaxy proved to be a megaton game on par with Super Mario 64, it's impact has been better than Odyssey in my opinion.

>Waluigi

Unless we're using him to represent everything Mario Party and Mario sports have brought to the table, he hasn't been influential in the world of video games, more so in memes.

>Elma

Again, see my reasoning against Rex and Spring Man. Sure, a lot of people considered her when Smash 4 DLC was happening, but now that Xenoblade X has passed she's a relative "who" who not many people know about or would consider because the game simply hasn't been all that big or influential in the years that followed.

>Jin

Would be good if Heihachi can't be in for whatever reason or if Heihaci simply isn't as easy to realize as Jin.

>Midna & Wolf Link

Can't say for sure, but I think characters like Vaati and Tingle have better chances.

>Starfy

I'm not all sure of what he could do, but if he was in I think he'd be a good addition to showcase Nintendo's history on the GBA and DS.

>Knuckles

If any other Sonic character were to happen, this is who I would support, but I'm honestly not too keen on wanting another Sonic character.

>Adol

I'm kind of worried about what sets him out from other JRPG protagonists that could give him a strong chance or significance to be in Smash. Lloyd has the whole 2 elemental sword thing going on, Bartz would have the job system, Isaac and his elemental powers. I sadly don't know enough about Ys for a strong decision, but I think it should be included in some way.

>War

Playstation All-Stars is a couple blocks down.

>KOSMOS

I really don't want anymore Xeno series characters unless it's Fei from Xenogears.

>Shadow

Again, I'm not big on including additional characters from 3rd parties unless the representation is patchy or wouldn't be complete without another character like a mainline SMT character or medieval style Final Fantasy character.

>Malos

No, seriously, what's the obsession with Xeno characters?

>Peppy

>Slippy

Seems like characters that would become echoes for easy padding. I don't really want to add more representation to already represented franchise unless those characters are representing something that isn't yet touched upon or bring up an important aspect or concept, like the case of Arvis and representing Fire Emblem tome users and villains, Heracross and properly representing Pokemon's origins in beetle fighting, etc.

>>16772652

No, I meant to group Chibi Robo separately, but I had trouble thinking of anything for or against and intended to come back to it later. Chibi-Robo is an odd case where the character definitely has a cult following, enough so that Nintendo tried rebooting the series with Ziplash, but Chibi-Robo has also never had the impact that other cult classic like Earthbound and Banjo-Kazooie to an extent have enjoyed. Chibi-Robo really is an odd case where I don't know what to make of it, but if I was Sakurai it's a character I would try to add to the game if I found the time to include them at all. But considering how many characters I think could be added, I don't know if that could happen. Basically, they're not a high priority, but I still think their inclusion would be great.

And yes, I always like debating or considering a character's chances-

>Bomberman

As big as I think he is and what he would represent (HudsonSoft), I don't know much that he could do. If his entire moveset is based around bombs I don't think that would turn out to be very interesting or engaging, having almost every move be based around a timer or timing. Again, I think he be great to include, I'd love to have him in the game, but much like Lip, I struggle to imagine how he would fight or differentiate a lot of his moves. Another HudsonSoft character, Master Higgins might make for an interesting fighter, but I doubt his legacy has kept up well enough. If anyone knows of a way to make Bomberman work without an over abdunance or bombs or seemingly using the same move, I'd be interested to know.

>Earthworm Jim

Now that Banjo-Kazooie is in Smash Bros, he's my new pipedream character. He's on my list, and I'd love for him to get in, but I don't think his chances are all that great. He's not around much anymore, but I think people underestimate how huge he was when he came out. Along with Aladdin for Genesis, his games helped set the bar for graphics and animation quality for video games, he was more of a cartoon character that decided to be a video game character, and having him in Smash Bros. would help highlight that period of time and the sorts of odd humor and things coming out around that time. I think what Jim represents is monumental in it's own right and that deserves representation in a series about video game icons.

>>16772592

>Classic Wario (Wario Land Wario)

>This is something I desperately want, but then there's the issue of potentially upsetting fans of Wario's current moveset by completing revamping him.

If there can be two Marios and three fucking Links, there can be a 2nd Wario.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>16773024

That would be cool. Would definitley appreciate if we got a less popular, "small" character as the 5th, as everything so far has been pretty "big".

-Character from a big-name modern JRPG

-Character from the granddaddy of JRPGs

-Character that has a massive following in the west, and a sizable cult following in japan

-Character from one of the most influential fighting game franchises ever

Probably not gonna happen though. Especially considering the 5th character is most likely gonna get announced at The Game Awards, meaning its gonna have to be a big-name character that the jackasses who watch that trashfire will be able to recognize.

>>16773044

Mischief Makers or Gunstar Heroes would be cool, yeah.

My money is gonna be on Monster Hunter though. Feels weird that Rathalos is just kinda there as a boss fight without a fighter to match up against him. If not a hunter, then maybe a Felyne.

when's he getting in?

>>16773033

Would be neat to see them try to work someone like Kalas or Sagi and their card oriented gameplay into a working Smash character somehow. But Baten Kaitos is pretty much a "who the fuck?" franchise there's zero reason to promote at present, and while Nintendo owns Origins (and thus Sagi), I'm not sure if they specifically own Eternal Wings (and Kalas) as well.

>>16773070

Thats absolutely fucking smash4 Ridley tier anon.

If a monster were to get into the game it would obviously be Rajang.

>>16773054

I heard that the lead dev for MH didnt want the hunter in Smash or MvC and MvC apparently put MH in their game without his permission.

If that rumor is true I hope the guy changes his mind and lets MH or Palico into smash.

>>16773070

>>16773079

If we get a MH rep thats actually a monster, why not Kirin?

-Been around since 1st Gen

-Elder Dragon

-One of the smallest, if not the smallest monster in the series (excluding the generic fodder monsters), making resizing it for smash less of an issue

>face of his home series, which was one of THE franchises of the beat 'em up genre

>never been playable in Street Fighter despite the other two protags of the first game, as well as later protags, and even enemies being made playable in SF

>only character playable in every Final Fight game

>was in Saturday Night Slam Masters and MVC3

Put Mike Haggar in Smash goddammit

>you will never use Haggar to club girly anime sword twinks with a length of pipe

>>16772989

Funny that you say that, because both Frogger and Chosen Undead are in there. There are also certain inclusions I disagree with until other characters make the cut, that list is primarily designed so that any of those characters could happen in any order and it wouldn't feel as if something is missing or that better choices would've been available. I disagree with Sora's inclusion because there's other pieces of gaming history owned by Square that haven't yet been represented, Kingdom Hearts shares some influence from later Final Fantasy games like 7, it would feel redundant in my opinion. Taito for example is now owned by Square, which I feel should be represented in some way.

Another argument I have, is that if you have to go through licensing hell to get Sora from Disney, why not Mickey Mouse? Now, I understand Smash Bros. is primarily for video game characters, but I believe Mickey has been just as influential for video games and would represent a broader spectrum. In fact, it was the licensing of Disney characters to Nintendo's hanafuda cards that saved them from bankruptcy in the 1960s and who's success allowed them branch out as a business. Mickey Mouse even made for one of the most successful Game & Watch games. And everyone knows about the Capcom Disney games which are arguably some of the best and most beloved games for NES and SNES. But I believe it's with Castle of Illusion where Mickey Mouse irrevocably altered video games and became more of a video game icon. The game was made in house by Sega of Japan to showcase the graphics and power of the Mega Drive / Genesis, and then later started the trend of increasingly impressive animation in video games that Earthworm Jim and Aladdin would so pull from and exemplify, and which Nintendo would fire back with in the form of Donkey Kong Country. All of these monumental changes in video games came from an attempt to replicate the animation seen in Mickey Mouse cartoons, but in a game format. Mickey also has more than enough video game exclusive content to warrant his video game appearances as something different, so therefor everything that he would do in Smash Bros. would originate from his video game appearances rather than pulling from him generally.

Personally, I really hate Disney too, but Mickey I would be fine with.

Because of Cloud, Snake, I would love to see some more PS love, and don't see it as completely out of character. Dante is obvious due to the DMC titles being ported. But honestly, I would prefer a renewed interest in Tenchu.

>>16773119

You make a very compelling argument.

I was hoping for Medusa to be playable. She can't be a Palutena knock-off. Medusa needs her stone gaze to cheese high damaged fighters off the edge (higher your % the more stick shaking you need to break loose).

You know, with all this deconfirmation shit going on, the only character that seems to make the most sense as the 5th fighter is Crash. Eventhough he is technically an Activision character, he would make the most sense as a Playstation rep. Not to mention, Crash has two big announcements for next week. The first being the new Grand Prix, the other being the rumored new Crash game. So, what better way to end it than with the reveal of Crash's inclusion in Smash.

>>16774662

Crash was apparently deconfirmed, but I'm not believing any speculation. If it is to be believed however, I think our boy Earthworm Jim has a chance.

>>16774684

>Crash was apparently deconfirmed

Right now, it just seems too much of a "coincidence" for Crash not to be in.

>>16776593

If you are gonna make shit up, at least make it fucking believable, not "Yeah they gonna make these 30+ mii costumes & assist trophies into real fighters lmao"

Your lazy ass didn't even have the effort in you to whip together some blurry "totally real" photos.

Just a fucking big ass list.

This is below minimal effort. Why did you even bother.

So the Gaym Awards are tomorrow, and with it, the final character will most likely be revealed there as well.

Whats your predictions boyos.

Im still thinking a Monster Hunter rep, having Rathalos as a boss without a fighter to go against him is weird.

>>16777680

Xenoblade 2 is fucking gay and so are you.

I want Cooking Mama in smash and I want her in NOW.

>>16777738

>needs more Nintendo characters

>lists off second rate characters from already represented franchises in smash

Anon, come on now.

>Mike (StarTropics)

>Muddy Mole (Mole Mania)

>Marvelous Trio (Marvelous)

>Takamaru (Mysterious Murasame Castle)

>Saki (Sin & Punishment)

>Isaac (Golden Sun)

>Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)

>Mach Rider

>Excitebiker

>Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness)

>John Raimi (Geist)

>Lark / Nester (Pilotwings)

>Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)

>Andy (Advance Wars)

>Wonder Red (Wonderful 101)

>Prince Sable (For the Frog the Bell Tolls)

>Euden (Dragalia Lost)

>F-Type (Stunt Race FX)

>Starfy

>Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight)

>Donbe & Hikari (Shin Onigashima)

>Captain Rainbow

>>16777872

What they need is to go all the way back. While a third-party character can be fun and have potential, there's also a chance it will be a literally who or a generic looking swordsman/fighter.

You know who I'd like to see? Jumpman. An aged but sturdy jumpman who's similar to Mario but with clear differences.

Well, either Jumpman or reimu

>>16777872

>no ray 01

Rating time.

>>16764125

Not bad. DK players are nice to see.

>>16772492

>that spoiler

I'm laughing in advance. And yeah, Heracross could be a fun choice, alongside Earthworm Jim.

>gay awards didnt announce the 5th fighter

Well shit.

>no new reveal at the TGA

I guess #5 won't be as big as I thought it would be, oh well. I'm still hoping FP5 will be a good choice regardless.

>Stay up late for any TGA announcements for FP5

>The very last announcement as for a Fast & Furious game

What a waste of my time. I guess that tweet from TGA about "remember Joker's announcement from last year?" was a red herring the whole time. At least Sekiro winning GOTY was nice.

>>16780311

FP5 could be "big" as everyone else in the pass but it could be a character that smashfags won't take a liking to (i.e. another anime sword fighter, someone who's out of left field that not a single smashfag wanted) and Sakurai wanted to reveal whoever the first post-FP DLC fighter is just so the damage from FP5 won't sour any post-FP DLC.

>>16773073

Wave 2 or Wave 3 at the earliest.

>>16764125

Some good choices, some not so great but it's not horrible. Falcon can be somewhat cheesy depending on who you're using but he's mostly fine. Piranha Plant I have not figured out yet because with any character I use, he seems to have ridiculous damage output. The Samuses I absolutely hate dealing with, especially regular/Dark Samus, since it limits my choices to just Zelda, no one else works well against her.

The rest aren't bad, you feature a few that I use. DK can be a bit of fun and I while don't use Dedede due to a no-overlap clause with a buddy of mine, but he's a bit of fun.

>>16778549

>Fire Emblem

A shit.

>Hero

Annoying to fight and limits my choices quite hard.

>Pichu

Impressed you can pull anything off with him, never worked well for me even though I saw the potential.

>Mac

Fun, but any character with shit recoveries is a huge disadvantage when I play, it's why I prefer heavier characters or at least light ones with great recoveries like Inkling.

Rob I use myself and the rest I have no strong opinions on.

You guys know that Master Chief is all but inevitable, right?

>Sakurai wants to add as many top of the line characters as possible as there may never be a chance like this again

>Microsoft is cozying up to Nintendo so hard, releasing tons of their exclusive games on Switch

>Master Chief Collection for Switch leaked, has yet to be deconfirmed

>Would be an unprecedented move for a competitor to allow their de-facto mascot on a rival console, eclipsing Sonic's reveal in Brawl

>Unlike Steve, has a design that works for a game like Smash with more than five seconds of thought put into it