/v/ - Video Games

>>16757157

You're forgetting Sony taking gaming mainstream and making it "cool" with the Playstation.

It was the first dude-bro console. Prior to that gaming was just for nerds and it was better that way.

But if PSX was the cancer then Xbox was when the cancer metastasized.

Better version of archive in OP: https://archive.is/aDIU5

>>16757166

>>16757166

>It was the first dude-bro console. Prior to that gaming was just for nerds and it was better that way.

Everyone played games back then though since it was cool, I don't know how you retards can be that deluded.

>>16757166

all Playstation did was challenge the status quo on censorship and give developers enough room on disc. Everything else is just the industry getting bold

>Can only play the game at certain times of day

>Have to wait your turn

>Microtransactions on every game over

>Game was designed to give you lots of game over and thus was designed to make you pay a lot of microtransactions

What am I describing?

>>16757178

Let him have his fantasy. Actually fuck it, lets rip him to shreds. Gaming was not some secret club only the most beta of males played. They were the hardcore gamers and hobbyists, yes but not the only ones playing. Shitloads of people played arcade games, home games with the NES and on from there. Lara Croft was a big mascot for gaming and in the mainstream, Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog were huge. Stop this faggotry that gaming was niche and underground until le 2007. Just because you were a loser who got picked on doesn't mean dregs as bad as you only played games.

>>16757166

This.

>>16757216

Yeah, but the jews from Hollywood weren't involved as much back then

>>16757238

Take a screencap of the passage if you want people to care about Microkike.

>>16757216

>my dad totally plays video games so video games weren't obscure

Anon there is a gigantic fucking difference between seeing a mascot and being able to recognize it, and being pandered to by a wide array of publishers seeking to undermine the integrity of their existing franchises just to appeal to you because you are the one not playing video games. The figures aren't even fucking comparable, niche titles or Japan only titles (which are the closest thing to the "pre-Hollywoodization" market) are considered successful if they break half a million sales. AAA games are considered unsuccessful if they "only" get 2 million sales. The difference is dramatic and undeniable.

>>16757157

OP is Zach or a kike.

NO OP YOU AND WHAT YOU NEOLIBERALS DID ARE WHAT'S WRONG.

>>16757230

Nothing wrong with expansion packs, they were usually well worth the price. In fact I'd even argue that selling Doom 2 as a whole new game instead of an expansion was scummy.

>>16757166

Sony didn't "market" the PS as cool. It earned the reputation for a variety of reasons.

>Rightfully ended Nintendo's and SEGA's reign over the console market when they were busy experimenting with shit consoles that were nothing more that bad gimmicks to jew people out of their cash like the virtual boy and the 32X

>Broke the industry free of Nintendo's tyranny over what games got to see the light of day with their shitty (((seal of approval)))

>Brought variety to videogames beyond cutesy children's games and outright garbage ad nauseum

>Opened the gates for anyone who wanted to make games to make their ideas come to fruition, essentially injecting the industry with much needed life

>Spawned most of the greatest games of all time

>Was the perfect foundation for the era's transition from 2D games 3D games

>Flipped the bird to the bit wars (which were not yielding any substantial results at that point)

The PS1 prevented the industry from stagnating with Nintendo and SEGA's trashy ideas. It was born out of revenge due to Nintendo jewing Sony out of a signed partnership and it made those faggots pay the price dearly. The PS1 only fixed vidya, and consequently got a lot of attention.

>>16757251

The difference is that they're catering to a (((globalized))) market now and that devs are more than 20-30 people, that's a big thing right there.

>>16757251

Despite all that, gaming was not something only the losers played. Gaming was big for decades before it hit massive numbers like is has done today. My point was simply to dispel the myth of how obscure and underground gaming was.

>>16757216

>What am I describing?

Worst Korea's contribution to gaming.

>>16757255

>Nothing wrong with expansion packs

<Nothing wrong with selling proto-DLC at the same price as a full-fledged game

>>16757262

>>Pushed online focus

Sega and Nintendo did that prior to.

>>Pushed paid online

Sega and every MMO developer did that prior to.

>>Pushed DLC

Sega and every PC developer did that prior to.

>>Pushed pre order bonuses

Japan did that prior to.

>>Pushed consolization of PC games

Japan did that prior to.

>>Pushed westernization of japanese games

Nintendo did that prior to.

>>Pushed SJW shit and still are

Nintendo did that.

>>16757256

Sony tried to jew nintendo first in their signed partnership for the Nintendo PlayStation. Sony would retain all the rights to cd technology and cd manufacturing/distribution while nintendo saw none of those profits.

>>16757238

It goes far beyond that, the reason why the xbox uses the green color scheme is because their entire strategy for defeating the jap gaming industry was originally named 'Project Manhattan' which lead to the first few DirectX logos being based on a radioactive logo. For you youngsters out there not familiar with WW2 history Project Manhattan was the development project that created the first atomic bombs that were dropped on two cities after it was obvious Japan was losing the war and was ready to sue for peace.

When the hype machine for the PS2 was heating up there was talk in corporate circles of Sony introducing a home computing device that would eat Microsoft's lunch, after trying to approach Sony to get Windows to run on it and failing they tried partnering with Nintendo and were rebuked again. Only Sega said yes and that's why there's a WindowsCE logo on the Dreamcast, Sega was eventually seriously fucked over by this arrangement with their key personnel being poached after sabotaging the Dreamcast in the US on purpose to leave more room for a new console to appear on the market.

When it comes to their involvement in the 'indie game' scene, creating their fake news site called Polygon after one of their lackeys singlehandedly destroyed Penny Arcade's journalism news site by defending the xbone's DRM scheme and pushing of SJW politics all that could fill a book.

This whining about p2p, microtransactions, onerous DRM and constant patching of unfinished yet released games is small potatoes compared to the real harm that they've done to the industry.

>>16757290

>that's not relevant

<Everyone you just posted can be ignored because it points out the Micro$hit didn't start any of this, they just monopolized on concepts that already existed

>>16757284

>Asking to keep the rights for the CD tech you developed on your own while Nintendo gets to keep all the profit from the games and consoles purchases that would stem from it is being a "jew"

The fuck are you smoking? You want Nintendo to have their grubby hands in everything instead? They were wildly jewish and restrictive back then already. They didn't even have the courtesy to tell Sony they rejected the deal. That's beyond scummy.

>>16757256

except that anon is right to an extent, in the US, Sony marketed their playstation on MTV and other networks like it while showcasing more "normalfag" oriented shit like sports and racing games, with the occasional action game in there.

>>16757256

You just said the opposite of everything that happened, holy shit take the nostalgia glasses off. We get it you're trying defend your purchase from 20 years ago.

>>16757315

And here we are today with Sony shitting all over developers and pulling shit like the vita memory cards. Glad we avoided that crisis in the past. Sony is a scum bag corp that ruined gaming for decades.

Faggot.

>>16757321

>racing games

>normalfag shit

They're staples of the arcade heyday, what are you talking about?

>>16757315

Cannabis, but that's beside the point.

If nintendo wanted make or distribute any CDs of their mario games (or other nintendo franchises), they had to get sony's expressed permission first while sony got all the CD-related profits and rights. Talk about a shitty one-sided deal.

>>16757334

>y-you're wrong

Not an argument

>And here we are with sony

Transformed into a shit jewish company, just like all the others after microsoft poisoned the well you fucking retarded monkey.

The difference here is that it started out fine. Also:

>>16757342

>>16757344

>>16757355

So just like all third parties had to get nintendo's explicit permission to make games for their systems, except without the censorship?

>>16757365

>not an argument

Seeing you pulled all your points straight out your ass, you never had one to begin with.

>microsoft made them jewish!

And here is where I call you a fucking nigger, nigger.

>>16757383

>straight out of your ass

Says the faggot without any argument whatsoever.

The PS2 was called the 32bit Wonder for a fucking reason you braindead mongrel. You most likely weren't even alive to remember that.

Fucking black gorilla nigger.

>>16757397

PS1*

Christ, Your retardation is spreading to me

>>16757397

Can't argue without an argument.

>The PS2 was called the 32bit Wonder for a fucking reason you braindead mongrel. You most likely weren't even alive to remember that. Fucking black gorilla nigger.

I'm sorry what? Are you mental or do you actually have a point here other than shitposting? PS2 was a piece of garbage that only got any success for being a cheap DVD player and contract bound games. Sony bought their success, not earning it.

>>16757157

You say Microsoft is the reason, but Microsoft is just a branding, and what do you call it when you attribute power of thought towards an image? Idolatry. Worshiping of false idols. Now where does all that come from? The abrahamic religions, and who's responsible for those? Tha jooos. Nothing changed ever since, anon. It's still the fucking jews forcing you to worship a self destructive doctrine (capitalism), where you worship false idols (brands), while getting exploited by them. How about for once in your life, you stop believing the shiny shit they put in front of your eyes, and try to learn from history? Btw real history books don't have a copyright sign in them. Just fyi.

>>16757403

>PS1

>Being so mad over someone disagreeing with you that you mix everything up

Talk a deep breath, admit you're not always right, and come back to me with a proper mental state. and disregard >>16757404 because I suck cocks.

>>16757216

>What am I describing?

Arcade games?

>>16757374

Except this situation was different. Nintendo (a console manufacturer) was being reduced to a mere software developer by their hardware manufacturing partner, sony. It would have been the first time that nintendo made a nintendo console, but another company owned all the rights to produce the games/CDs for it.

A third party dev asking for a console manufacturer's permission to put their games on their platform is one thing.

But for a console manufacturer to need permission to make games for the console they created is unheard of. Sony would have jewed nintendo hard if they continued that deal.

>>16757256

god what a retard. fuck off.

>>16757350

and usually those are things like curising USA and the like, I'm talking more like nascar and the like

>look at posts

>defending sony

sonybrony detected

>>16757419

>>16757421

Now hes just gonna angrily shitpost. So much for a proper argument from him.

>>16757407

You don't need to tell people you suck cocks, it's easy to tell from your posts and lack of knowledge on things that happened. The PS1 didn't even need much of its own marketing for that matter, the industry was so fucked before it came out that just the sheer lineup it had at launch was enough to win people over. SEGA's baffling incompetence with the Saturn and terrible ports of its stellar arcade titles like Daytona, combined with nintendo outright jewing consumers and resellers were also factors, but two industry giants being beaten by a newcomer's 32bit console speaks more about the PS1's merits than you could ever deny, child.

>>16757432

>the sheer lineup it had at launch was enough to win people over

What lineup? I wasn't a wannabe dudebro so I never bothered with it at the time.

>>16757216

This, arcades were shit.

>>16757435

I'm surprised I haven't been hit with a wall of budget title yet.

>>16757432

>two industry giants, bloated by years of no real competition easily displaced by someone new who was paying attention to their mistakes

oh gee, and now we have sony committing the same sins now as the other two and microshaft

>>16757435

Ridge Racer, Twised Metal, Rayman, Wipeout and more. It wasn't even about quantity, the technology behind them was just impressive. The port of ridge racer alone was as mindblowing as the arcade version.

>>16757458

I don't defend modern sony at all, but I do recognize what they did right way back then. Not being black and white on opinions sure does numbers on this echo chamber.

>>16757463

Battle Arena Toshinden blew my mind, also NBA JAM, especially after coming from the SNES version.

>>16757473

>Not being black and white on opinions sure does numbers on this echo chamber

True, but being an arrogant nigger like 9479ff doesn't help at all and only worsens it.

>>16757475

I felt GT1 and 2 were the hot shat back then, though I started with GT3 when the PS2 came out.

The first person who bought and installed horse armor

The first person who bought an online only game

The first person who bought a pre-order game

The first person who got a video game tattoo

The first person who paid for a F2P game

The first person who got scratch protection for their disks

The first person who only plays MMOs

The first person who thought Zelda was a good series

They are all to blame, and together they symbolize the pool of consumers who are uninformed and terrible persons using video games as a lifestyle choice and ego centered. Nothing can be done about, except inform and shame and repeat forever. Everyone makes purchasing errors, people need to learn how to make the most of their money. Microsoft and all the others went from quality titles to making games that target the most mentally weak among gamers with the most disposable income. The whales of gaming. Even e-celebs with misleading cleavage target their own whales. It is all psychology and unawareness. Scammers and the marks.

It has been a rough patch and it is everyone's fault and it will correct itself with time. The best you can hope for is constant remastering of the classics so young and newer gamers can know quality instead of leftist horseshit and Todd lies and Microsoft's slight of hand trickery.

>>16757157

>Microsoft is responsible for everything wrong with gaming today

Consumers at the end of the day are the ones responsible.

You are acting as if it isn't an inherent trait for a company to find new ways to maximize profit at the cost of the consumer.

If the majority of consumers continually reward those actions, do you expect a company that exists to produce a profit is NOT going to exploit it?

If I was at EA, and someone told me that I could make $500 million a year by selling people digital hueball cards that cost literally nothing to produce, why WOULDN'T I say no?

Do you expect a fox not to reek havoc if it gets invited to the hen house with open arms?

>>16757498

>*why WOULD I say no?

>>16757485

>Microsoft and all the others went from quality titles to making games that target the most mentally weak among gamers with the most disposable income.

It's by design. Thanks to usury capitalism requires exponential growth, which makes it predatory. This is why they lure the producers and costumers in with freedom and quality, then over time strip them of both, and finally boil it down to the lowest common denominator, while using revenue, not to make the products better, but to groom the costumers into accepting trash.

>>16757485

>The first person who thought Zelda Final Fantasy was a good series

fixed

>>16757485

>except inform and shame and repeat forever

Except every community nowadays has become castraited. You can't critique as that is toxic, you can't bring "hate" into a community, no you have to let people have their opinion, no gatekeeping just let every shit eater in, no brigading or witch hunts against ceo's in the face of blatant corporate greed, the list goes on.

Shitting on motherfuckers needs to get into popularity.

>>16757498

It takes two to tango. One of the partners, learned from the past while the other operates like stupid cattle to proud to be wrong about the ramafications of their decisions.

You operate your business in good faith because that is what makes a good society. If you are a souless greedy fuck than I am glad you have failed to succeed in life.

>>16757513

I don't get this. They're no more rehashes than what the rest of the industry produces. What'd you call Tekken 7 or Dragon Quest 12. Or the latest Sonic game.

>>16757546

ok retard.

>>16757498

>Consumers at the end of the day are the ones responsible

It's hardly the consumers fault when every industry is designed around deception, lies and criminal exploitation. If you weaponize temptations, you will create chaos and death. That's in our nature.

>to find new ways to maximize profit at the cost of the consumer

All because of usury. It's a scheme that drives every economy straight into a wall, while destroying everyone in it's path.

>is NOT going to exploit it?

"All actions have consequences", that's a natural law. They are committing criminal theft in hopes of getting as much fake money out of it before everything collapses.

>someone told me that I could make $500 million

That's you falling for the temptation of greed, which has severe consequences. They don't give you the money for free. It always comes with a catch. Case and point, Notch. He fell for greed and they took his creation away to the point where they erased his name from it.

>Do you expect a fox not to reek havoc if it gets invited to the hen house

A hen house means protection by a 3rd party. We don't have that with capitalism, because the entire system is rigged against us.

>>16757516

>Same with tech in general

Everything. "destroy the past, exploit the present, corrupt the future" That's their credo.

>>16757523

>It's very sad that you think that

From the perspective of a capitalistic predator? Definitely.

>>16757519

>coup de gras

I hope that image isn't from the finished book. That translates to 'hit of fat'.

Another interesting book on this topic is 'Opening the Xbox' by Dean Takashi. The author might be a piece of shit who can't beat a tutorial level but he's so bad at pushing the SJW agenda that his article about the harassment of women in the gaming industry made the entire thing seems like a joke, none of the women interviewed took serious offense to it and and were glad to gloat about the witty retorts they gave back. It was so ridiculous I felt he sabotaged it on purpose but the truth the veteran women in the gaming industry are just as fed up with the political correctness being pushed as anyone else as they aren't in a position to benefit from any of it.

Anyways there's a lot of behind the scenes exposition and explanation about how the industry works at the very highest levels, another good book not very related to this topic but worth looking into is 'The Race for a New Game Machine' which focuses on how Sony fucked up so badly with the PS3.

>>16757569

Predatory in a genuine capitalist system literally does not last long enough to be worth participating in, if you want to actually. I could spend literally all goddamn day trying to explain to you what actually went wrong, but you likely don't care because you're grifting. Which unfortunately is what the tech industry has devolved into a grifting industry and market much to the hilarity that it is now currently crumbling because the industry literally does not understand how to satisfy real end users.

>>16757584

>the industry literally does not understand how to satisfy real end users.

The ones leading the industries have full comprehension of everything, which is why they know that they don't have to give a shit about the end user. In fact the end user is the least important group of all. It's the investors of fiat that the industry is catering to, which is also just show, because what it all really is about is gambling. All these interest groups and commodities are nothing but numbers to the ones in charge, and they are playing them by manipulating the odds against them. This way they always win. But how can they get away with this you ask? They network, all of them.

>>16757604

>why they know they don't have to give a shit about the end user.

Nigger the entire tech industry is fucking collapsing, and gaming is barely keeping itself alive with esports and whaling.

>>16757623

>the entire tech industry is fucking collapsing

Yes, the nation is collapsing, because that is what always happens at the end of a usury cycle, starting with Babylon. Nothing changed since then, and it's the same group of people doing it. And if you think that those leaders are now loosing their industries, then I have to disappoint you, because they never gave a shit about any of them. Capitalism was just a means to an end for them, and like always they will lean back on their riches and watch how the nation tears itself apart in wars, after which they come in to buy everything up for pennies, and the game starts afresh.

>>16757637

Go rope yourself you dumbass blackpilling faggot

I am in no mood for your bullshit

>>16757524

>You operate your business in good faith because that is what makes a good society. If you are a souless greedy fuck than I am glad you have failed to succeed in life.

Morality,society, "good faith", is irrelevant for a large multinational for profit entity, and if anything, that has made them more successful than they've ever been by ignoring it.

There is no downside to acting in such methods in late stage capitalism, no company is going to be able to start up and take on any of the three large manufacturers,nor any software makers such as EA or the like.

Any promising company or property that has the potential to be the next fifa or madden half a billion a year card game is, but chooses not to, will likely end up being absorbed by a large company that can afford to somehow take a controlling portion if it ever goes public. Constraining yourself due to morality or other immaterial concepts will only cause the entity to be consumed by those who don't restrain themselves at this point in the game.

A small clique of companies controlling an industry is by default going to be inherently anti-consumer, that is a given. If normalfag consumers willingly pay for digital baseball cards, all it does is reinforce the conclusions these companies has already come up with.

Unless consumers either stop consuming these sorts of practices, or an outside entity intervenes in a legislative capacity, there is no reason for them to stop.

>>16757652

Go make your own hardware company to compete with Sony and Microsoft then if you have such a problem with their business practices :^)

>>16757642

…yes

But once again, this does create a good society and we should just continue to follow along with the practices that continue to plague our society and let the immoral and corrupt thrive. I don't see what you are saying to the contrary of that statement.

>>16757638

Ignorance is what brought us here in the first place.

>>16757622

Wow, out of that ENTIRE chart in the second pic, the only two things I've bought from the main 10. in the past month, are Triscuits and Bounty paper towels. Everything else comes from other companies or local places.

Also, the first pic is super old. GE no longer owns Comcast (And NBCUniversal, by extension), News-Corp went bankrupt, Disney bought Fox (With the exception of Fox News), and Viacom and CBS are now owned by the same company (National Amusements).

>>16757691

> this does create a good society and we should just continue to follow

>*doesn't and shouldn't

One day I'll learn how to proofread.

>>16757642

>there is no reason for them to stop

But there is a significant reason for you to stop them, because their actions will conjure fatal consequences for you. War.

>>16757637

You're forgetting an important part of the cycle called the Jubilee. Without it there's no reason for the people to obey their masters as the perpetual slavery they're in becomes too apparent. It may or may not be invoked in this cycle as we're heading into interesting times but they do have millennia old rituals and rules to follow.

>>16757680

There's an even better solution to this; use their own older hardware for your own purposes. The 30+ year old NES on my desk with an Everdrive cartridge in it is never going break, will constantly get new games or rom hacks as long as I'm alive and all the while Nintendo will never get a single penny out of me. Worse still it'll still be working for future generations.

They certainly took great pains to make sure this would never happen again with their products and the RROD in the OP is a good reminder of how they're willing to deliberately release hardware with a 25% failure rate and lose tens of billions of dollars just to make sure the consumers sticks to the upgrade treadmill.

>>16757709

>the only two things I've bought from the main 10

Yes, you are still lucky to have small alternatives to chose from, but just like video-games showed us, the big ones absorb or destroy the little ones sooner or later. The problem with too much money, means too much power, means political power, means deliberately designing laws that benefit the big, while bleeding the small out of business. They also love to add millions of licenses as roadblocks for startups, so that they don't even try. These are organized crime tactics disguised by corrupting the legal system.

>Also, the first pic is super old.

I just grabbed the first I found, but the two important info's you should have is that a) they always consolidate further and b) they are all controlled by jews, which is now made illegal in Florida to call out. What that means is that all the consolidation are just optics for the public, while everything is already owned by one group.

>>16757786

>they do have millennia old rituals and rules to follow

Hitler changed all of that. They want everything now, which is why they take on the entire western civilization in one go. They are that confident to end it all and claim their imaginary throne.

>>16757696

Where did I ever imply a collapse?

I am simply using the term to describe the current state in which actual competition is no longer feasible due to large corporations buying up any competition and consolidating into a few massive multinational corporations that have a vested interest in no one challenging their hegemony. This isn't 1980 anymore, no studio founded in a garage by 3 people can just make a game that is comparable to a AAA title.

>>16757691

A company doesn't care about anything besides providing a return to share holders, what you see as some sort of societal problem is irrelevant to them. They only respond to losses in profit, if they see increases in profit by exploitation, they will continue to exploit.

Unless consumers stop providing them income, they will continue to act in their own interests, to expect otherwise is foolish.

>>16757796

Oh come on get a clue already, Hitler didn't change shit with his new age bullshit about Aryan supermen. He won't even be remembered as a significant character in Jewish history several hundred years from now.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CTnIG3Xf1RQF/

Yes they've been rushing things and fumbling thanks to their prophesied deadline of 2240 but they do stick to their ancient rules.

>>16757842

Hitler will be known as the greatest hero to have ever lived long after the kikes are a distant memory.

>>16757842

>won't even be remembered as a significant character in Jewish history several hundred years from now.

suuuuuuuuuuuure, same as them not being butthurt about being jews in egypt, right?

>>16757238

>>16757519

Man, its absolutely despicable how Microsoft tried to destroy the Japanese industry and pioneer monetization. I'm not saying the other two are better, but Microsoft is fucking something else. Its like their mantra was "if we can't have, nobody can" and irreversibly paved way for some of the worst aspects of gaming that we know today and ruined it for everyone.

>>16758034

Most of the shitty ideas Sony implemented originally came from Microsoft.

Of course Sony's been doing some major bullshit lately that's far more retarded than Microsoft ever did so I suppose that's a moot point.

>>16758053

can't even blame sony. I mean xniggers literally paid years just be able to get online, you couldn't even use a web browser. of course sony wanted a piece of that pie, who wouldn't with such retarded consumers?

least they gave you some games in exchange (which at the end of ps3 were damn good, hence not many sonyfags complaining about mandatory ps+ - most already had it). the only reason games with gold is a thing is because of that, else those same xniggers would still be paying for the retarded version of live.

>>16758447

>>>/cuckchan/

>>16757166

>making a 'dude-bro' console

it's nothing compared to

>charging for P2P multiplayer and pushing matchmaking on consoles

>introducing marketplace with microtransactions to consoles

>opening pandora's box of online game updates and (paid) DLC

>>16757342

>Sega Channel and Satellaview

Those two were mere side gimmicks for their consoles and don't compare to Xbox Live, where it played a MUCH bigger role.

>>16757216

>What am I describing?

Fair enough, especially for head-to-head games where a 2-5 minute match cost 2 credits. I'll argue as a counter-point that if you got good enough, you could 1CC games and play half an hour (or more) for a quarter.

>>16757216

Arcades were fun as fuck with friends though. Obviously now arcades are filled with literally the worst games so even with friends it's a waste of money.

I want to buy a time crisis light gun machine honestly.

>>16757230

Valve made [insert game series I like], I'm not allowed to criticize them.

t. OP.

>>16757275

>selling proto dlc at the same price as a full fledged game

what, expansion packs were like… you made an expansion pack INSTEAD of a whole new game because it was way less content and wasnt worth as much otherwise it would just be game 2 instead of game:more

expansion packs were not 60 bucks they were like 20, as opposed to now where micro content we would never see in those days costs like 10 or 20 and expansion packs dont exist and are just sold as whole new games for 60

an example of an expansion pack selling for full price is left 4 dead 2, it came out exactly a year after and basically just added some new enemies, it very much should have been an expansion and therefore have half the cost it did, but those days are gone

>>16757786

>The 30+ year old NES on my desk with an Everdrive cartridge in it is never going break, will constantly get new games or rom hacks as long as I'm alive and all the while Nintendo will never get a single penny out of me. Worse still it'll still be working for future generations.

out of curiosity, how do you deal with the gamepad invevitably wearing out?

ITT: SEETHE

nice

>>16757558

>If you weaponize temptations, you will create chaos and death. That's in our nature.

Yeah but can you blame anyone for using retards? To be completely honest, most humans are basically fucking asking for it.

>>16757524

>It takes two to tango. One of the partners, learned from the past while the other operates like stupid cattle to proud to be wrong about the ramafications of their decisions.

>You operate your business in good faith because that is what makes a good society. If you are a souless greedy fuck than I am glad you have failed to succeed in life.

Yeah, bad news fella. The ones who are acting against moral conduct are usually the ones who succeed in life. Just look at the world of politics, or, well video games :^ )

Good. Console gaming is cancer. Microsoft did nothing wrong in their campaign to destroy faggot consoles.

>>16764735

If you can visit something like The Arcade Club, I absolutely recommend it. It's best with friends but even going there on your own is fantastic.

>>16757157

No. The jews are.

Horse Armor.

>>16765035

No. Lets be real, arcade games were built on microtransactions.

test

damn

>>16764801

No matter how much "muh success" and money one have, he/she can be easily killed. See Jeffrey Epstein's case for a hint. If you don't behave as you must, at one point, when you least expect it, you will be disposed off and all your money will be taken away from you. Enjoy your future poisoned meals.

Can I post yet?

>>16765134

Hitler did nothing wrong

http://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/

>>16765141

https://holocausthandbooks.com/

>>16757216

Paying to go use equipment that is (at the time) too expensive/impractical to take home isn't the same. You might as well equate paying each time you use a slip-and-slide at home to paying to use the big slide at a waterpark. The business models must operate differently, so some things acceptable to one are not for the other.

You just described issues that happen when you don't own something, which reinforces the point of how shitty things have gotten when looked at it that way. Arcades/renting have advantages like being able to use something a little without having to pay for it all, and access to things impractical to own. Now we are paying in pieces for game content after paying full price for the game. You didn't have to pay $60 for each arcade game before feeding them quarters.

>>16766735

>Says the 360 had no games

Im sorry what, I distinctly remember the playstation had no games until well over 5 years later

Gaming was ruined when it became about making profits and political messages rather than about making games. I don't think any single company is to

blame for this tbh. It's because the industry is saturated with uncreative, boring, and worthless faggots (i.e. jews, greedy goyim, and liberal freaks).

Pretty much.

>decline in physical

>paying for online

>dlc

Sony brought gaming to normalniggers but microsoft fucked it up for a majority of games. I know people will say arcades you had to pay for it but you could just buy the console and with arcades you don't have to buy the console to play, you just pay for the 50 cent fee whenever you play it.

The problems of gaming arose when it first began.

>>16757166

Do you mean Sega? EA got their start with Madden on Genesis. Then Sega themselves were selling a ton of their own sports games before they said fuck it. Joe Montana Football, Arnold Palmer Golf, David Robinson Basketball, Mario Lemieux Hockey, Tommy Lasorda Baseball, and while not a sports game, Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. Then when Mortal Kombat was making waves, Sega took the opportunity by establishing themselves as the only system to have the uncensored version.

Tl;dr Sega started all this shit.

microsoft and valve are equally responsible. arguably microsoft copied valves practices. everyone else stooped to their level seeing how profitable judaism can be.

i'm just sticking to Gog and piracy from 2020 onwards.

>Let him have his fantasy. Actually fuck it, lets rip him to shreds.

Posting in order to rip someone to shreds is pure Reddit behavior. An authentic 8kunny posts in order to contribute and make his fellows better, guaranteeing that his posts have substance through this pursuit. A Redditor, on the other hand, relies on upvotes and perceived majority advantage instead of saying anything of real value, because his aim is only to make himself seem superior, a fleeting pleasure in an anonymous image board, but immortal on forums.

>shitloads of people

When you use such a broad term like that, are you also including women? What about Brazilians? Was Sonic the hedgehog popular with the Chinese? When looking at the degradation of the industry, one shouldn't look at the size of it, for there are many things which became better with growth. Instead, one should look at the type of people which entered the industry, thus causing its decay. That is why everyone starts the faggotry about le 2007, when the Big Bazinga Theory encouraged the influx of the uninitiated into gaming, among other things. Make no mistake, while gaming was large back then, it was still an acquired taste, and you can prove this theory yourself by trying to make a normalfag play a game pre-2007. From the start, they will grumble and complain about the bad graphics, difficulty and lack of cutscenes. Products are always made with an audience in mind. It just so happens that the audience has changed.

>>16770796

replying to >>16757216

>>16765134

>communism

People act like everyone is immune to advertising and forget that little children wanting to be involved in some capacity is the reason Fortnite pjs exist at Walmart. The industry is now and never was just about the quality of games. Pac Man cereal and board games targeted the audiences that weren't allowed to play video games for economic and religious/parental reasons. All companies can make whatever they want, and whoever buys it has their right to do that to. The state of the industry by industry standards is fairly good as market demand is stronger than ever despite the quality of games going down. The loudest demands get made first which is free to play death match for losers with low self esteem needing quick victories over people they assume are worthy and not handicapped children mashing the oversized keypad. The phrase a sucker is born every minute is older than the oldest person alive on the planet. The smart thing to do is make the games you want to play yourself.

>>16757166

>You're forgetting Sony taking gaming mainstream and making it "cool" with the Playstation.

NES made it cool, Multiplayer made it dude bro. Only the nerds were playing RPGs for the NES when all others were playing Blades of Steel. The only difference is social media which allows you to view the taste and habits of people you are jealous of.

>>16765134

Not entirely, consumers buying horse armor and acting like whales are what is happening. Should everyone be an informed consumer, companies wouldn't be trying this shit. The journos that accepted and peddled their shit are to blame as well. Capitalism is so good, it allows commies to exist and breathe when they shouldn't really tbh.

>>16757519

>I've an interview with one of the original DirectX developers who confirmed the radioactive logo was meant to be a stab at Japan.

is there an actual source for this?

>>16770956

>While gambling should be outlawed.

No it shouldn't. You gamble when buying a house, you gamble when get married, having children etc. Life is a gamble. People get addicted to all sorts of things to picking scabs to collecting beanie babies. People who think they can restrict the behavior of others are authoritarians deserving of the lamp post.

>>16757432

>the sheer lineup it had at launch was enough to win people over.

Launch day, USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_(A–L)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_(M–Z)

>ESPN Extreme Games

>Ace Combat

>Battle Arena Toshinden

>Kileak: The DNA Imperative

>Total Eclipse Turbo

>Power Serve 3D Tennis

>NBA Jam Tournament Edition

>The Raiden Project

>Rayman

>Ridge Racer

>Street Fighter: The Movie

>Zero Divide

>ZOOM

Next month:

>Cyber Sled

>Mortal Kombat 3

>WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game

>X-COM: UFO Defense

>X-COM: Enemy Unknown

2 months:

>Jumping Flash!

>Destruction Derby

>Discworld

>Doom

>Agile Warrior F-111X

>3D Lemmings

>FIFA 96

>Defcon 5

>Novastorm

>November 2

>Twisted Metal

>Tekken

>Warhawk

>Primal Rage

>Zoop

>Wipeout

>Space Griffon VF-9

>Viewpoint

>NHL FaceOff

3 months:

>Bases Loaded '96: Double Header

>Geom Cube

>Loaded

>ThunderStrike 2

>Jupiter Strike

>Cyberspeed

>Gex

>Hi-Octane

>Shockwave Assault

>NBA In The Zone

>Road Rash

Wow, look at all those great timeless classics!

(cont'd from >>16772392 )

Sarcasm aside, after that there were 219 games released the year after launch, so I'll just list the ones that weren't completely forgettable:

>D

>King's Field II

>King's Field III

>Battle Arena Toshinden 2

>Crash Bandicoot

>Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain

>Resident Evil

>Tobal No. 1

>Wipeout XL

>Tekken 2

>Twisted Metal 2

>Persona

>Suikoden

>Tomb Raider

>Samurai Shodown III: Blades of Blood

Except Crash and Tekken, none of those were worth getting a PSX over whatever other platform. Now TWO YEARS in, out of 215 games released that year, all that sticks out is:

>Battle Arena Toshinden 3

>Dynasty Warriors

>Final Fantasy VII

>Bushido Blade

>Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

>Armored Core

>Soul Blade

>Vandal Hearts

>Wild Arms

>Tomb Raider II

>Monster Rancher

Finally a handful, A HANDFUL, of the games the PSX is famous for. And finally 3 years after launch, out of 277 games:

>Final Fantasy Tactics

>Dead or Alive

>Breath of Fire III

>Klonoa: Door to Phantomile

>Grand Theft Auto

>Crash Bandicoot: Warped

>Bushido Blade 2

>Brave Fencer Musashi

>Resident Evil 2

>Tomba!

>Mega Man Legends

>Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

>Parasite Eve

>Spyro The Dragon

>Tekken 3

>Xenogears

>Metal Gear Solid

>Twisted Metal III

tl;dr:

PSX WAS FAKE NEWS FOR AT LEAST A YEAR AFTER LAUNCH

>>16772392

As someone who actually was old enough to get a first generation PSX on its launch, most of those games were actually huge among Asian gamers, if only because they were very different to what Segay and Nintencuck were doing, starting with being on CDs instead of carts. It also really helped Soyny that the pirates immediately found a way to unlock the console which caused massive sales numbers in Asia. Imagine being able to buy a full PSX game for a dollar. Even the children of fucking tuk tuk drivers in the Philippines had a giant library of PSX games during its heyday because of this. There is even a rumor in Southeast Asia that Sony themselves intentionally unlocked their console because they were aiming for that specific market, which was having an economic recovery at the time after a huge regional market crash.

Good. Gayming as a hobby is a disease. Ever since video games got popular it has been riddled with japbugs, kikes, and faggots. Gaming needs to die first before it will ever be good again. Based Microsoft.

>>16757230

Microsoft wasn't the first, but they were the first ones who made it extremely easy and convenient for publishers and developers to add paid DLC and for consumers to buy it.

It's just like the iPhone. Apple was far from the first one to make a phone with a music player that was similar to modern day smart phones. But they were the first ones to make it easy to buy and easy to use. And they were successful and made the smart phone concept mainstream.

The first one is not usually the one who makes it big. It's usually the one who polishes it and gets it into the hands of normalfags. And Xbox brought DLC and microtransactions into the hands of normalfags. In fact, there was no escaping exposure to it on Xbox 360.

>>16766841

I agree 100%. Video games started as a hobby for programmers. And eventually people showed up who thought it could be used to make a ton of money, as well as propaganda to spread political messages.

>>16772392

>shittalking Air* Combat and Cyber Sled

>>16772393

>no mention of Final Fantasy Tactics and Vagrant Story

Sounds to me like you just have shit taste.

>>16772665

He has FFT in there, but I don't see Vagrant Story.

>>16770909

>All companies can make whatever they want, and whoever buys it has their right to do that to.

Pure cancer. That is why killing random people in mass shootings is a valid activity.

>>16770998

>People who think they can restrict the behavior of others are authoritarians

Nothing wrong with that. The masses must never have any form of freedom.

>>16772533

>very different to what Segay and Nintencuck were doing

Nearly all of those games were also on SCD/Sat/N64/3DO/PC-FX/Wintel/Mac, a lot were even 16-bit ports.

>>16772599

>It's just like the iPhone

This is who actually deserves OP's wrath. Apple, Google, and (to a possibly greater extent) earlier telco-owned J2ME/iMode game stores. Literally every single cancerous thing OP complained about actually started here: Walled garden distribution, monthly fees for everything, DLC, pay2win, social integration, all of it. The only blame going further back is Nintendo resurrecting consoles after the crash, which PC/arcade survived totally unscathed. If Nintendo hadn't done that, we wouldn't have loss-leader pricing or licensed devkits that helped shape the evils of the cellphone market.

>>16772665

Like I said, I only listed games that were big prestigious attractions in the day, especially exclusives. There were a ton of other great games I left out because they were IMHO niche (Azure Dreams, Devil Dice, PaRappa, MDK), or because in spite of being big hits they were far too generic to justify someone purchasing a PSX over other platforms (i.e.: annual sportsball roster updates, Japanese cardgames, more generic racing games).

>>16772707

This, bring in the law. Anyone conflating business models (P2W, gambling, etc.) with free expression is just regurgitating laissez-faire corporate propaganda.

>>16757786

Same goes for any kind of appliance nowadays, honestly. For old computers and appliances you could get service manuals that detailed everything you needed to know in order to fix something. Also, the worth of a brand was in its longevity, and durability was the norm - now it's planned obsolescence (thanks, apple).

Marketing had ideas about that 'your grandson will use it one day'. And that's exactly the case with the old Braun hairdryer and Solingen electric trimmer that I got from my grandfather. They still fucking work.

>>16764788

Easily solved, the wear on the rubbery pads is fixed by getting new pads, which are easy to get. This also includes the conductive carbon material.

For devices that have the conductive material on the board instead, in these cases a new layer of conductive carbon also fixes it.

>>16764792

>AOE 2

Literally been playing this game since 2000 and it never gets old.