1783ae No.16748613
subject says it all, games you think could have had potential if things just turned out different.
I'll say NeoTokyo, the aesthetic was there, the multiplayer was somewhat solid for a mod game, and the OST (despite not coming with the game) is phenomenal.
the only problem was that it wasn't as updated due to devs focusing on their lives and the community slowly died out, it was up there as an interesting multiplayer cyber punk game that was heavily inspired by GiTS judging from it's art direction.
what games do you think had potential to be great but was squandered by forces that dev's couldn't control or dev's themselves did to their game?
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63dcc0 No.16748623
>make game about King Arthur's court existing into the 19th century and being tasked with fighting an army of werewolves to defend the crown and the holy grail
<make it a fucking movie game
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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d658b1 No.16748685
>>16748623
>make game about court with King Arthur existing in 21st century and being tasked with fighting an army of superpowered hero spirits to defend the world and the holy grail
<make it a fucking gacha game
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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1783ae No.16748705
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1d1a5a No.16748710
>>16748685
>WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
$$$.
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bc4ec6 No.16748821
Planetside 2 if it was like the game was in beta before it went completely to shit, had a massive visual downgrade and got progressively more jewy with its currency systems.
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c02857 No.16748838
I know I will get shit for this but I think ps4 spiderman would be a pretty good game if they kept the liberal pandering out, fixed the damn out of bound glitches, and made the stealth sections more fun to play by giving you all the tools sooner rather than waiting until the end of the fucking game. The game felt like a faster, tighter bamham game that really treated the IP with care.
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5c1b06 No.16748853
Soulcalibur VI
>Best guest characters
>So much fanservice in the age of SJW
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6b55ef No.16748916
>>16748853
>Only 12 stages
>Less than impressive roster when compared to SCIV
>Takes ice ages just to release new characters
If it had all of the roster of IV minus the star wars characters twice as much stages and more customization items then it would be the best modern fighting game there is right now.
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65f06d No.16748917
>>16748838
I went back to Spiderman 2 after playing my friend's PS4 and it is galling just how much better the former is. The only complaint I have is the length of the story, but it makes up for that by actually being interesting to play the whole time.
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bf5df1 No.16748921
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
NeoTokyo is flat and boring compared to Dystopia. Not featuring the fine soundtrack that was composed for it was perhaps the most baffling design choice.
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c02857 No.16748926
>>16748917
That's why I consider it wasted potential. Insomaic really tried to be spiderman 2 and I bet if they got another crack at it they might succed. The problem is that they are tied to Sony of California. Not to mention they need a fucking QA department that does its job.
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ae8ca1 No.16748931
-The later Metal Gears had Kojimbo hired a competent writer and didn't cut out an entire part of the story
-Fire Emblem had they not gone full waifu route and had someone write a better story that isn't HUURRR DURRR THERE'S A EVUL KING BUT HE IS TAKING ORDERS FROM A DRAGON/ IS HALF DRAGON AND WE NEEDS TO STOP HIM like almost every game in the franchise
-Sonic if Sonic Team actually knew proper code
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f1bc95 No.16748940
Not a game, but a mod. Deus Ex had a mod called Terminus Machina, made by this Hawaiian commie. Every time I've loaded it up, it leaves me so conflicted, because it has, among other things:
Actually good and fairly "realistic" wireless hacking
Predator drones that will fucking nuke you if you get detected in some spots outside
Starvation as a mechanic – not hunger, starvation. You start out literally starving to death and can be driven to slaughter cats and help bomb a mcdonalds for food.
Graphene screen tattoo on your face that you can use to make you look like other people with a ghetto scrapped-together 3d camera made from smartphones.
Did i mention crafting? And the ANFO IEDs you can make with it?
You get the most crushing sorta becoming post-human world, where you really feel just how much the not-super-rich are being left behind. You can feel the terror of needing to dodge security cameras by either sticking to the darkest alleyways, and eventually making that face camo shit, all while trying not to starve. And you can eventually get a fucking hydroponics bay, eith a dedicated skill (don't eat the gmo "corn" if you know what's good…) and make a hemp jacket with solar panels in the back because of course you fucking can.
Yet… it's so unfinished, the guy just seems to have made like 30% of a mod. It's got very rich mechanics and is well developed in that way, yet he just seemed to stop caring about the level past a very noticable point. Worse still is any time there's a major conversation. Devman seems to be honestly kinda autistic and super commie. Not in a /pol/ "uhhhh he said white people bad" way, i mean literally can't stop from making every other character reference Marx. It's sad to me because the mod's so fucking cool as a framework, yet so weakling in execution.
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63dcc0 No.16748941
>>16748931
As far as I'm aware coding is the least of modern Sonic's problems.
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5d82d5 No.16748942
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c02857 No.16748950
>>16748942
I still can't get over how it was cucked out of Evo.
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7413f1 No.16748969
>>16748613
>the OST (despite not coming with the game) is phenomenal
But it does come with the game:
…Steam\steamapps\common\NEOTOKYO\NeotokyoSource\soundtrack
>Or
Right-Click game in Library>Properties>Local Files>Browse Local Files
NeotokyoSource\soundtrack
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c36f1f No.16748984
>>16748613
I played neo-tokyo when it first came out. It was pretty good visually and there were a bunch of players, but something was just off iirc.
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2a8a6c No.16748985
>thief series
had they organically improved on what the foundation they laid with the previous games in a modern engine without following retarded nu-game trends
>mgs series
had they made the stealth more like thief instead of goofy and arcade-ish, toned down cutscenes and maybe added an optional first person mode
>splinter cell series
had they made the lighting not over exaggerated bullshit, the controls not clunky, and borrowed the same kind of attention to detail and AI mgs games have
I'll also add, that a stealth game can only work properly if the setting is low tech and/or the wilderness. that is why I never enjoyed mgs 1 and 2's stealth and most of splinter cell's. otherwise it's simply not believable and out of context.
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6b5e63 No.16748996
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f53836 No.16748999
>>16748613
Megaman Legends. No, Seriously.
The games had more potential to be something amazing than anything else in the franchise. They take place on a world so far advanced that it rose to an apex civilization, collapsed, and then rebuilt based around mining for treasure from the submerged/buried ruins of the prior great civilization, one so amazing no one even begins to understand it. It then turns out that the characters you've been meeting are actually just robot hybrids created by the actual humans who created space-paradise, who then left the planet, left two cute brown lolis behind to manage space paradise, and then died out. The general conflict of the games was that the people left behind on earth are supposed to undergo a hard reset (mass genocide) once every so often to keep them from becoming too advanced; the remains of the ruins and the purpose of space paradise is generally to irradicate everyone on earth once in a while.
Unfortunately Capcom just sort of shat the games out so they could claim they had made a 3D Megaman game. The only things that hold up about them anymore are the art style and characterization, beyond that the games were mechanically dated the instant they released. However I still believe that the world and the potential it had could make for an amazing story and experience if the ruins weren't designed like complete garbage and the old Megaman mechanics of acquiring weapons from defeated enemies was brought back. The games had a lot of potential but Capcom just never did anything with it.
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c150de No.16749011
>>16748999
>he can't handle a TPS with no lock-on and tank controls
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5c1b06 No.16749013
Maybe we should play Neotokyo today?
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c331db No.16749014
>>16748985
Splinter Cell and Metal Gear are spy movies. They accomplish what they set out to do and nothing more; what you want is a different game entirely. If everything was scrutinized under the lens of realism, you'd end up with games that play too similarly to each other.
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f53836 No.16749028
>>16749011
>Missing the part where I said
<the games were mechanically dated the instant they released
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754103 No.16749044
>>16749028
If it's good enough for zelda 64 it's good enough for the blue bomber. The ruins except the water temple ruins were garbage though.
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a770c4 No.16749048
>Counter Strike clone
>crippled with Steam cancer
NeoTokyo was busted from the beginning.
Now Gladius had some great ideas for building really interesting tactical experience that were unfortunately busted by gearing moves around the Swing Meter.
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a770c4 No.16749053
>>16748999
Legends were an excellent example all-around of how not to do a 3D Mega Man. Not sure any "potential" was really squandered there.
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222453 No.16749058
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222453 No.16749087
almost forgot, the same guy who did the soundtrack recently released a new album inspired by Neotokyo https://0edit.bandcamp.com/album/0edit
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ed753d No.16749098
Mario. Specifically, 3D Mario. It has the potential to be, at the very least, my favorite games of all time. In fact, 64 is one of my all time favorites. But holy shit have all of them been disappointing.
Mario 64 was limited by age of course, but the stage themes are annoyingly basic, there's few actual platforming challenges, every single boss is trash and there are far too many stars that are just "go to place with no challenge", like the "shoot to platform" stars in stages 1, 2 and 3.
Sunshine was worse in nearly every regard. If having Mario 3-esque simplistic themes wasn't bad enough for 64, here, have one single theme for every stage and have them all feel identical. It had platforming at times, but it was needless considering you had FLUDD to bypass all of it. I think barring glitches (of which there are a good few), it's borderline impossible to die in Sunshine. Oh, and bosses were fucking shit. Worse than 64, somehow.
Galaxy had to casualize the shit out of itself because the gravity thing was far too much for casual normalfags, so nearly every jump could be cleared with a single jump. And despite space being the perfect fucking excuse, the absolutely best excuse they could ever have to have unique stages (it's fucking space, anything can be out there, fuck you nigger), the majority of stages just had the same shit generic themes as Mario 3 did. The bosses were slightly better than 64, sure, but not really focused on platforming too much, which was shit for a god damn platformer.
Odyssey once again decided to sell itself on a fucking gimmick. The moveset in the game was great but it was rarely useful since you instead just had to do whatever bullshit gimmick the game wanted out of you. The stage themes were an improvement at times, but it still had obligatory sand level, which not only was the worst stage in the game, but the longest. The bosses were centered on gimmicks too, so still not great. If not for the god damn capture mechanic, the game would have been phenomenal.
And for all the shit it gets, 3D World had by far the best bosses in 3D Mario. Sure, fuck Boom Boom but the other bosses were actually centered on platforming in a platforming game, can you believe that shit?
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ff7e0c No.16749106
Hot Shots Golf/ Everyone's golf got too silly and then too realistic and too online.
Saint's Row capitalized on GTA's decline into serious pomp and then went way far into zany that there is no point playing them other than for the insurance scam and other mini games.
>>16748985
agreed on all points.
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a770c4 No.16749110
>>16749098
The thing that always annoyed me the most about Galaxy was how they nerfed Mario's momentum in it. Does Odyssey have the same low-momentum Mario as Galaxy?
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63dcc0 No.16749113
>>16749098
3D Mario will never be good again until they go back to analog controls. Having to hold a button to run in a 2d platformer is bad enough.
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ed753d No.16749121
>>16749113
Wasn't that only a thing in 3D Land and World? Odyssey doesn't have that. Unless you mean the roll, which is a way to go faster but it isn't really running.
>>16749110
Not in general, no. Though the Long Jump has really been nerfed since 64 and never quite came back. It might be because the stages in general are smaller in 64, but it always seemed like you could go much further horizontally in 64 than in the other games.
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cdc4c5 No.16749161
>>16749098
>here, have one single theme for every stage and have them all feel identical
<what is a sub-theme
did the harbor feel the same as the beach?
did the amusement park feel the same as the village?
did the haunted hotel feel the same as the volcano?
did the village or its vast underground mushroom portion feel the same as the town level?
what about all of the non-fluud zones?
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9b7760 No.16749166
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ed753d No.16749175
>>16749161
Yes, they all felt largely the same. It's similar to the difference between Cool Cool Mountain and Snowman's Land. The music using identical instrumentation for every stage didn't help.
As for
>what about all of the non-fluud zones?
You give the player a central gimmick and then you take it away because you realize that the game is broken and has no challenge thanks to your gimmick. It's the game designers admitting their game is shit. It's like when Odyssey subrooms forcefully take away Cappy, same exact deal.
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5a6cb0 No.16749178
>>16749166
But anon, ==WARFRAME== is a major commercial success!
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cdc4c5 No.16749187
>>16749175
you've a good point concerning the latter statement
>>16748613
there could've been a katamari game with a level editor and online level sharing
there could've been a 3D non-boost sonic game with a level editor
kirby airride could've had a PC release and more levels, or even better; randomized level generation!
WoW could've not increased the level cap with every xpack and not made any raids past MC/ony have better gear than the prior raids, preventing almost all of that content from becoming irrelevant and also preventing the levelling from being fucking fucked like it is now
also, spore
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7da756 No.16749188
>>16749166
Can't have potential if you're essentially making an MMO.
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6732b0 No.16749697
Infinite Warfare had some fantastic worldbuilding and designs. CoDkiddies are fucking retarded.
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7197bd No.16749705
>>16748984
>>16748613
I really liked neo tokyo over counter strike. It looked cooler, had music, and neat skills. That's what was off about it though, the fact you weren't all even and found guns around.
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20654d No.16749858
All we needed was an MGS4 subsistence re-release for PC and PS4 with more levels, more gameplay and a full VR mode instead of just that shitty training range
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5d82d5 No.16749875
>>16748950
I can't get over how KikeZ managed to destroy one halfling's vision just because he wanted to fuck some VAs.
>>16749858
How about just MGO2
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20654d No.16749893
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16749875
Somefag actually tried to port MGO2 for the PC but it went nowhere. I wonder why no one else has tried to do the same thing?
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1a5eaf No.16749915
The recent cod, despite having some of the worst micro transactions in history, was actually looking pretty good from the previews. They actually wanted to change things up a bit, but the players were not happy with the game balance/features, which led to it being scrapped and work had to be started from scratch several times, INCLUDING ABOUT A FEW MONTHS BEFORE LAUNCH
Here are a few tidbits:
>Originally a sequel to black ops 3, meaning that it would have this dystopian futuristic vibe to it
>Later got made as a prequel to black ops 3, so they could nostalgia bait people with the tacticool stuff, to remind them of modern warfare, I guess
>Originally, there were no kill streaks or extra grenades, game was very similar to overwatch
>Choosing your specialist was very important, they each had a special weapon, piece of equipment(no grenades of any kind, just whatever your specialist was equiped with), and their own wpecial killstreak. For example, only "Ruin" could equip a UAV, if you wanted a sentry gun, you had to select "Torque", an engineer
>In place of killstreaks, your "timers" on equipment, special weapons and abilities, as well as your unique killstreak, would fill up faster
>Additionally, in place of perks, you could add thing like jetpacks to your operator, rewarding you with abilities to run on walls, jump in the air ect. in place of other abilities. The "pick 10" system, as well as killstreaks and extra grenades, were literally only put in at the last minute
>Much more maps were planned, game came with like 4 remake maps due to lack of time
>In the end, the game plays more like siege, with a little bit of call of duty mixed in, but it was planned to be much more tactical tha it is now
>Singleplayer was planned
>Rather than having original characters, missions would revolve around specialists from multiplayer
>Campaign was planned to be 2vs2 coop, meaning that for the first time, you could play as the antagonists
>Every player would go about their business, doing different missions in "one gameworld", but if they happened to be in the same place, they could either help the other player out, or assassinate them, drastically changing the story
>Multiple endings and meaningful choices were planned, as the "heroes" could theoretically be both killed by the mercs that would serve as antagonists, essentially letting the game end with a villain victory, in some cases
>Activision said they needed to shit out a battle royale mode out of nowhere
>Single player fucking cancelled
>To salvage this, defs opt to downscale and make several missions that take place in unique gamespaces, have their own cutscenes and unique assets, but play just like multiplayer/blackout
>Not enough time, only a few cutscenes with no context exist in the game, "campaign mode" isnothing more than a page where the backstory for every specialist can be read, and a quick multiplayer tutorial mission for every specialist that you do 3 times in a row
>It's literally just "custom games" matches from multiplayer, on a specific map and game mode, there is no special assets to speak of
>Zombies mode is the only mode that came out more or less unscathed
>Altho there used to be plans for a faction system, which the devs did not have time for, and just couldn't be bothered to put in later
>As of now, game devs are tired of the game, working kn another project
>Only one more operation planned in fall, pretty much all the "original" content that was going to be in the game is in the game
>Nothing but more recolors, ports of weapons and maps from other games, activision is squeezing every last penny from microtransactions to make up for loss of profits
>All content that will come from the game from now on is literally made by 4 or 5 dudes in the back of the office, only zombies mode is planned to have any sort of major new updates, as they still have a full dev team for that(for now)
I don't care much about the microtransaction hell the game is, since I bought it for the zombies mode, but fuck me, that game that never was sounds good, especially the campaign, where 4 players would be thrown into the game was world, and could interact with one another. Is there a game like that? Not a coop game, but a coop game where you can fuck with a person's game if you kill them or do something else to significantly impact their current game, that sounds like an interesting concept, if implemented in a proper single player game
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635f61 No.16749919
>>16749915
>unironically excited for cawadoody CRAPCUNTS
Get out
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1a5eaf No.16749927
>>16749919
I haven't been excited about a cod game in years, retard, learn how ti read. They are keeping a gun to the head of the zombies mode, which should be it's own IP, at this point, so if I ever play one of those games, this is why
But the 2vs2 stuff intrigues me, I don't think I have heard of anything like that before, except for maybe dark souls, where it is a gimmick, not a core gameplay mechanic
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c184b8 No.16749930
>>16748613
Maybe the game itself was not that good to begin with, and not because the devs didnt give it the attention that it requires.
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d09137 No.16749948
>>16748613
The hitscan gets all fucky when shooting at someone bunny hopping. You empty your gun into a recon rabbit and they don't get hit by anything.
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00ed4c No.16749973
>Lost Planet Series
If Lost Planet 3 wasn't a retarded prequel and was instead a sequel to 2 with a new group of pirate gangs, new Akrid, new VSs, and multiplayer was a Rust-like MMO where you build your own snow pirate faction and have to steal all your weapons/VSs from NEVEC or colonists or other pirates.
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00ed4c No.16749974
>Steambot Chronicles 2
If that fucking tsunami didn't hit and wipe out the atlus/irem office and destroy the data when the game was 99% complete.
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7971ee No.16749996
>>16749973
E.X. Trooper says hello anon.
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3ce472 No.16750002
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e711a3 No.16750003
Starbound
lmao just kidding it never had potential
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0dc0fd No.16750031
>>16748613
Ruined by loot boxes
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20654d No.16750039
>>16750031
>lootboxes ruined this already shit game
it was DOA, espcially since it wasnt just KF but in france. I was expecting GIGN and a FAMAS but all people got was a chink, a nigger and a dyke wit 2 versions of classic characters for some reason
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00ed4c No.16750041
>>16749996
EX Troopers was barely Lost Planet related. It's like if someone wanted a sequel to Star Wars Jedi Knight Academy and you gave them Rogue Squadron. Sure it's technically In the same setting but it's got nothing to do with the other game.
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0a82e2 No.16750046
S4 League
>Cool looking aesthetics
>Stylish and responsive gameplay
>Music made by DJMAX artists
<Extremely pay2win
<More pay2win items released later
<Holy shit even a kike couldn't come up with these pay2win schemes
<Spaghetti korean code causing countless bugs and crashes
<Hackers every game
<Weapon balance issues that spawned even more broken weapons meant to counter the overpowered weapons
<Later patches ditched the original VR shooting sports aesthetic for unrelated shit like Alice in Wonderland, Sherlock Holmes and fucking Mafia Wars
<The only people still obsessed with the game are ego jerking roaches who only care about winning 1v1 sword matches with very specific rules to screenshot the win screens and jerk their egos more
<And whales, the only reason why it's still not dead
There are some private servers but so far only S4MAX is worth a damn. S4C requires you to suck the dick of the main guy in their dicksword server and S4R is just like official with crashes and 1v1 roaches.
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20654d No.16750051
>>16750046
>s4 league
<gimped GunZ clone
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0dc0fd No.16750054
>>16750039
I unfortunately participated in the beta/early access yeah I know and it had potential for a while, but then it became clear that they were totally disinterested in fixing any of the problems and were only interested in mimicking the cs:go business model.
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0a82e2 No.16750058
>>16750051
By that logic Fatal Fury and Karnov's Revenge shouldn't exist because they're gimped Street Fighter clones.
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20654d No.16750064
>>16750054
I played the beta too, it was a pile of dogshit before they added skinnerboxes
>>16750058
You're right, they shouldnt
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80e51f No.16750066
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5f2a55 No.16750108
>>16748940
>wireless hacking
>graphene tattoos
>crafting IEDs
Sounds almost like he was trying to make Shadowrun in a Deus Ex mod. I would pay money for that if it were actually executed to completion and not written with autism.
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5f2a55 No.16750111
>>16750066
>Orbitals Pubstomp Everything: The Game
What a piece of shit that was. And I was such a SupCom/TA fan so I was looking forward to it as well.
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305195 No.16750144
>>16748926
>Insomaic really tried to be spiderman 2
Spider-Man 2 is nothing like Spider-Man PS4. They just copied everything the The Amazing Spider-Man games made by Beenox (which both had a lot of heart and soul put into them but were both rushed to meet a deadline, and had no budget) did but better, since they actually had time and a proper budget.
>>16749048
Neotokyo was nothing like Counter Strike you dumb nigger, it played more like the old Rainbow Six games.
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a770c4 No.16750154
>>16750144
Rainbow Six sucks too.
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6f4856 No.16750212
>>16748985
>I'll also add, that a stealth game can only work properly if the setting is low tech and/or the wilderness.
I feel the complete opposite
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2180f8 No.16750221
Reign Of Kings
Chinese cheaters and new shitty systems killed the game.
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6f4856 No.16750224
>>16749697
I keep hearing the campaign it's actually pretty good. Years ago i wanted to play the whole franchise for reasons but now i'm thinking of just trying IW.
>>16749927
>But the 2vs2 stuff intrigues me, I don't think I have heard of anything like that before, except for maybe dark souls, where it is a gimmick, not a core gameplay mechanic
Almost sounds like a Pen & Paper RPG, really interesting concept.
Make the campaign really short but really replayable too.
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ec1fcf No.16750229
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Coulda worked, but never happened.
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66021a No.16750231
>>16748710
If they were thinking money then they would make a good video game
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ba4577 No.16750251
>>16750064
>kill kof98 to keep the dumpster fire that is the SF franchise
You are a bad person.
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6732b0 No.16750378
>>16750224
>I keep hearing the campaign it's actually pretty good.
It is even if i dislike how stereotypically evil the SetDef "bad guys" are. It's retarded
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a4d68a No.16750422
>>16750224
ghosts also had a good story, the villain is literally bane, the plane scene is somewhat recreated, and the first thing that happens is that israel gets nuked. Honestly, I would just torrent all the COD games and play the story, it's fun but nothing ground breaking. Also, zombie mode is the tits
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4c3b48 No.16750431
Chivalry, man. I liked the overall more arcadey feel of combat in Chivalry way better than Mordhau. But the developers never bothered to fix the the now infamous "ballerina" and reverse-overhead exploits and the game died.
All Chivalry needed to do to stay alive and well was fix it's VERY FEW combat exploits and it would have been the only Medieval swordfighting game I'd need. But, just to rub salt in the wound, Chivalry 2 is going to be EGS exclusive and I have heard nothing but bad things and nothing about them fixing the issues with the first game.
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6fc6cf No.16750700
>>16750431
This is really sad. The devs had a golden goose that printed money, and they fucked it all up because they were lazy greedy shits.
They did make 2 other games after this one but afaik they both bombed pretty hard.
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7b64cd No.16750813
Killzone. I loved the aesthetic but there was never any hope of being anything more than bog standard fps shite wherein the space-allies fight and triumph over the space-nazis.
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5d82d5 No.16751636
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>>16749893
>Somefag actually tried to port MGO2 for the PC but it went nowhere. I wonder why no one else has tried to do the same thing?
Sadly there's some games that just don't see enough autism poured into them despite being super autistic in fanbase.
Sonic Adventure 2 sees basically ZERO level modding, for whatever reason, but the Chao Garden gets all the nifty tools and shit. It's just the way it is, either you become the change you want to see in the world or you wait forever.
>>16750431
LET IT RIP
MOVE OVER GRAMPA, A NEW MEME GAME IS IN TOWN…
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20654d No.16751814
>>16751636
Yeah, im Just gonna make my own MGS clone type thing, hardest part is trying to find information on uniforms and other general stuff
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95080f No.16751869
>>16750813
Space-nazis with a much cooler aesthetic than the allies and have done nothing wrong..
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5d82d5 No.16753381
>>16751814
Maybe instead of trying to 1:1 MGO you could just look up tacticool gear from IRL stuff, especially camo, and just copy what's more easily obtainable from MGO, such as the sneaking mechanics.
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7a4b7f No.16753575
>>16749098
I generally enjoy 3D Mario as a comfy bing-bing wahoo at the end of the day but you're spot on.
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fac00c No.16753607
>>16750221
Always wondered what happened to that game. Seemed like a good idea but just faded out
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f7653b No.16753613
>>16750813
Space Nazis which looked so cool that everything on your side looked lame in comparison. That was my feeling the entire time I played Killzone.
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58b6d2 No.16753693
The Jak and Daxter series could have been one of the greatest platformer series of all time if they had just refined and improved on the first game. The foundation they had was great. Jak and Daxter is already one of the better platformers on the ps2; it was just a little rough around the edges. All the pieces were there for them to make a real masterpiece. But instead Naughty Dog decided it would be a good idea to turn their cartoonish 3D platformer into a gritty open world game with an emphasis on awkward third-person shooting and racing missions in an attempt to capitalize on the popularity of GTA. Jak 3 tried to fix things, but it still wasn't of the same caliber as the first game.
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e8ad17 No.16753769
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Left Alive, with the majority of Squeenix funding and manpower were relegated to "good projects" like Kingdom Hearts 3, this game was left to die. It shouldn't have been as shit as it should have been when you have Armored Core alumni Toshifumi Nabeshima and Yoji Shinkawa on the fucking game, but no, they didn't have a goddamn clue what this game about, and no more Front Mission games, because fuck quality assurance.
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84299d No.16754953
>>16749974
The wounds will never heal.
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63dcc0 No.16755146
>>16753769
This entire thread could probably be nothing but Square examples.
>Final Fantasy game that lets you play as literally any character in the entire series with massive party size
<it's fucking gachashit
<and they do it at least 3 more times
>Dragon Quest is finally given a budget to work with
<none of the games are advertised, seemingly out of self sabotage to keep FF on top
>Finally make a third Parasite Eve
<do I even need to explain this one?
There's like a trillion more I don't really feel like thinking about at the moment.
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2f3e73 No.16755236
>>16750108
Precisely, man, it even had some fairly good music that set the atmosphere just right, where outside feels oppressive, and the menu feels like you've been dropped in an abrasive electronic hellscape (mean that in a positive way). Yet conversations still have that right feel from dx preserved, at least until anyone speaks for too long.
For all that it's shit in some ways, I still find myself sometimes thinking of it years later just from how lucrative copying some of the mechanics would be. Also, if you ever do try it, read the descriptions on shit. That's one of those things that confuses me so much, like the writing on items is SO GOOD, descriptions can change based on your skills and knowledge, and it's also one of the few cases where I've seen genuinely good crafting – where it feels like you're just scrapping occasionally useful parts from broken shit, rather than making a nuke in 5 seconds from some raw materials. It's just such a shame when the probably genuine autism suddenly shows itself the moment any sort of social interactions comes up, alongside it kinda running out of steam within 40 minutes, even just in level design.
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900bd7 No.16755289
>>16748613
NeoTokyo was doomed from the start.
A multiplayer only source mod does not have a lasting shelf-life when people would rather just play counter strike
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c39297 No.16757021
>>16751869
Just like real life tbh
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8870b5 No.16757041
>>16750051
>gimped gunz clone
i'll show you a gimp
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a2914e No.16757053
>>16748969
its only 8 tracks of it
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20654d No.16757056
>>16757041
>video doesnt even load
Is anyone else having problems with images/video not loading? or is it just me? I thought it was probably the fedniggers doing their thing again because of the 3 mass shootings
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8870b5 No.16757060
>>16757056
media server has been in the pits for a while so pics/webms not loading is not new
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20654d No.16757073
>>16757060
I never said it was something new you faggot, where do you niggers learn 2 read?
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8870b5 No.16757081
>>16757073
hold on there friend, you asked if it was just you not being able to load things
if you've been here for a while you should understand that things not loading is normal in these parts and that the website's owner is a spook
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4a3327 No.16757086
>>16748613
Neo Tokyo is fucking dope
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20654d No.16757088
>>16757081
I knew fags that played S4 league where niggers, but THIS is advanced niggatry!
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cadadc No.16757587
>>16750221
The devs of Reign of Kings had abandoned another early access game, Starforge, to start making it. Anyone who fell for Reign of Kings deserved it.
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f783c0 No.16757599
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4e64cd No.16757770
>>16749166
Such an amazing movement system trapped behind bad level design. It's frustrating that the game still teleports you to places that you can now safely explore because they didn't update the level design of the older planets. Instead they're putting focus on creating empty open worlds.
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fd88b7 No.16762173
>>16748613
Gothic 3. It was highly anticipated amongst the fans and it was meant to be something big. In the end it was a buggy trainwreck that doesn't make any sense without community patches and mods.
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45d64d No.16764803
>>16751814
>hardest part is trying to find information on uniforms and other general stuff
I am guessing you haven't started actually programming it
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c7ac77 No.16764865
>>16764803
no, im an artist, i model shit animate it and texture it.
once I can into code it wont be that hard since the combat isnt that complex anyway, only thing that will fuck me up is the AI + stealth. and then theres the issue of
>do i include the control scheme/camera from MGS3S
OR
>do I make it, its own seperate thing with a different theme?
sticking with making it, its own thing because I doubt anyone wold want to play with a worse control scheme.
Finding references of shit is actually quite difficult most of the time, spent a week learning and modelling shit from various countries.
I dont want any of the games I make to be more generic mutt shit
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bad9f0 No.16764867
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45d64d No.16764971
>>16764865
>once I can into code it wont be that hard since the combat isnt that complex anyway, only thing that will fuck me up is the AI + stealth. and then theres the issue of
Stealth wouldn't really be that bad (especially considering how it was made in MGS4), you could just attribute a certain colour value to textures and then have the game check nearby walls and objects in contact with the playermodel (along with the current stance, current action and light intensity) to see how close their value is to the one attributed to the playermodel. Based on the distance from the texture and the difference in colour, you could attribute a stealth value, which would change your playermodel's transparency. In most cases it would probably be something like 40% transparency at most, while for someone playing as Snake you could let it go as far as 80% at most. And then to balance is slightly, you could give a delay until it reaches that maximum value and possibly even have the value go down the longer someone looks at the stealthed player without breaking eyecontact. For the AI it is entirely dependent on what it is you are setting out to let them do (like having them communicate with each other, flank the player, clear rooms, possibly even have them be affected by morale).
>I dont want any of the games I make to be more generic mutt shit
Just take old uniforms for different countries (possibly even ceremonial uniforms) then, since current ones tend to be pretty much the same but with different patterns.
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