db1417 No.16744837
Been a little while since we’ve had our last Mega Man thread. Now that the some time has passed and we’ve had time to sit on 11, what are your final thoughts on it? Did it live up to the name? Where would you put it among the other games?
Also:
>what’s your favorite OST
>favorite Robot Master
>favorite game in the series
>==favorite rom hack== putting some emphasis as copyright laws seem to be changing so it might be good to download them sooner rather than later
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bc63ae No.16744854
As for me, I’d put it in the mid tier of games
It brought the game back to form, but didn’t quite do it as well as 9 or get as good as some of the previous games in the series. It also felt fairly bare bones as there weren’t any secret boss fights or characters that showed up. It was fun if you didn’t use the speed gear and it would have been nice if they got rid of it for something a bit more useful and interesting.
I also wasn’t a fan that several of the stages had those “moving” segments when older games usually only used that on one stage. Other than that, the boss fights were fun, the powers were neat, and there was some good music here and there (the Wily stage theme being the best)
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5a3d58 No.16744881
MM 11 sounded so much better when you slide the VO volume bar to zero. That said I agree with the other anon. They really should take a page from MM 6 and give us alternative routes, true/fake robot masters and super armor for the good bois that explore the levels and play the game well.
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db1417 No.16744996
>>16744881
I thought it was a shame they couldn’t get the Powered Up VAs back.
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48f03c No.16745015
But what about Mega Man Y?
11 is pretty high-tier. Have an autism text wall:
>weapon wheel and Rush hotkeys take actual advantage of modern controllers so you don't have to constantly pause
>consistently useful weapon set
>fun boss fights if you don't just blast them with super duper weapons
>3D graphics look decently good and don't fuck with platforming like they usually do
>neat level gimmicks
>beats the shit out of 10
<slightly bland music and weak sound effects
<only two castle stages with just one original boss
<8 main stages are slightly too long
<shitty run animation
<you're slightly too wide, making low ceilings and one-block-wide passages more of a pain than they should be
<hard mode fucks with the balance. There are no item pickups, so instead you get enough bolts to buy out the entire shop in two or three stages
<non-consumable shop items are basically worthless, like the non-slip boots when there's only one ice level
<could've used DLC, specifically a Roll mode and extra challenge stages
<climbing ladders is really slow for some reason
My favorite hack is the one that lets you jump out of a slide in 6 it's that big of an issue among other things like using the select button to swap weapons and armors. https://borokobo.web.fc2.com/
Minus Infinity is the most impressive but I think the constant gimmicks get in the way of the regular gameplay's fun factor.
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bb620d No.16745059
Do any of you play Mega Man Maker? I've been playing it lately and I must confess I'm enjoying it. Sure, most of the level are crap, but creating your own level is certainly fun.
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f0f205 No.16745081
I haven't played it awhile.I should
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ab5c3e No.16745100
11 was SHIT! The stupid speed/power gear gimmick ruined all fun and challenge from the boss fights, thus necessitating every stage be WAY too long to compensate the difficulty a bit. And screws dropped like candy so you could buy the store out instantly on everything including consumables further trivializing the game.
The weapons were cool though. All of them were actually pretty useful.
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563b55 No.16745201
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7494f2 No.16745208
I'd probably put 11 somewhere above 7 and 8 plus 10 and 5.
It was good but felt like it needed more polish
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15ba4e No.16745225
>>16744837
what happens if you put your dick inside the inflation robot?
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fe5ae1 No.16745256
They mentioned they would be starting the next Mega Man project in 2019. That phone original X game supposedly has been in development since 2018, so that thankfully isn't it.
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db1417 No.16745458
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>>16745015
I forgot about the weapon wheel and how nice that was. It really sped up the game in a nice way.
I was actually looking forward to some Roll and Protoman DLC and was pretty let down it never came. Hopefully if they do a MM12 we’ll see something like that in the mean time MM 2.5D scratches the itch pretty well.
>>16745059
Can you download it or is it browser based?
>>16745081
I’m going through my favorites in the series again. Just beat 1 and I’m onto 3. Always forget just how much I love the series till I pick it up again. It’s a perfect mix of comfy and challenging.
>>16745225
Your dick becomes bigger too
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01e941 No.16745474
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f62fde No.16745483
>>16745474
Hopefully never ever seeing how Megaman 11 turned out.
Megaman ZX3 is what is needed.
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01e941 No.16745484
>>16745483
X8 was alright. Certainly not a masterpiece, but a definite step on the right direction after the atrocities that were X6 and 7
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8b7ee5 No.16745505
>>16745100
I agree with this anon. They should have made the gears optional unless you were playing megaman must die difficulty. The gears were to this game as Murry was to Rayman Legends.
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f62fde No.16745506
>>16745484
>X8 was alright
It's on Maverick Hunter X levels of ugly, except in the PS2. It's literally how not to make a 3D game, let alone a sequel to one of the prettiest 2D games in 16-bits and PS1.
>X6 was bad
Even if it was a rushed mess and the nightmare stuff is shitty, is not half as bad as X7 and X8.
Speaking of which. Megaman Powered Up is how you actually make a remake of megaman, AND a 3D megaman. It's jarring how in Megaman 11 Megaman is this small child like robot while everyone else if a fucking killing machine. I give you that this have been present since Megaman 6, but the NES graphics helped, while it's even more noticeable in Megaman 7 and 8.
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db1417 No.16745516
>>16745505
I don’t mind the power gear as much as it adds a layer to the abilities.
The speed gear is genuinely an easy mode though and a waste of a gimmick.
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8b7ee5 No.16745681
>>16745516
I'm with you on the power gear giving some depth to the robot master's weapons but at that point they should have just let you charge those weapons ala X1's buster upgrade. At least it wasn't as forgetful as 10. God damn 10 was so fucking forgetful.
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48f03c No.16745892
>>16745681
In Chain Blast's case Power Gear makes it actually usable.
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31bafa No.16745937
>>16745458
>Can you download it or is it browser based?
You can download it. Personally, I think it's worth playing just for the example level.
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fe5ae1 No.16745967
>>16745506
Rock is supposed to be a child robot converted into a killing machine. If anything the issue is that Wily and Light are so short they don't even have a full head of height over him.
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43c2f7 No.16745973
Overall, Mega Man 11 was a good entry to the series. I was expecting another Mighty No 9 disaster but no, it was quite fun and creative. My biggest problem with it was probably only the dialogue and voice acting. Have you ever watched Ben 10 or any other recent Cartoon Network show? Yeah, it sounds about as grating as that. Their voice actors can't pull off punny lines without it sounding absolutely corny. The designs of the Robot Masters look badass, but the second they open their mouths and say something cheesy is when I start to groan internally.
The only good thing I can say about MM11's voice acting is that it wasn't as god fucking awful as MM8's was. Passable voice acting at best.
If I had to rank MM11 against other numbered entries.
>top tier (no charge shot)
2 > 3 > 9 > 10 > 1
>middle tier (charge shot)
11 > 7 > 6 > 4 > 5
>shit tier
8
I like 1, 2, 3, 9, and 10 specifically because Mega Man doesn't have that shitty Charge Shot mechanic that 4 introduced. I don't like having my thumb glued to the button at all times.
>what’s your favorite OST
Tornado Man's stage theme
>favorite Robot Master
Snake Man, followed by Metal Man and Splash Woman
>favorite game in the series
Mega Man 2
>favorite rom hack
Mega Man 7 FC, Mega Man 8 FC (NES demakes)
Also, the Roll-chan romhacks (playable NES Roll)
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c5aff0 No.16746005
>>16745483
>ZX3
>More spinoff wankery
No. We need a title in the fucking sequel franchise, X. It's been 15 years.
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79bc96 No.16746020
>>16745059
I'll wish I could recover one of my account's passwords because I had an interesting level there.
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1e3ad4 No.16746023
>>16746005
Fuck that. We had a nice satisfying ending with X5, we don't need any games past that. At best, a remake of X5 that makes it suck less.
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bc63ae No.16746155
>>16745681
Oh you’re right, adding a charge function to the abilities would have made the power gear pretty useless. I never even thought of that.
Also, I think the only thing I remember about 10 was the sports stage and some of the robot masters designs. It was almost painfully easy compared to the older titles… or maybe we were all just got gud at the mm games by then.
>>16745937
Cool, I’ll download it when I get back from vacation. Been wanting to try it for a while. Are there any places with the top recommended fan levels?
>>16745973
I don’t think I minded the charge shot as much as you did, but I agree that it definitely wasn’t the best addition as it made enemies become more spongey to damage which slowed the game down quite a bit. Still, I like all the powers and rush forms in 6 and 7 and appreciate how they let you creatively tackle levels. I always feel like megaman is at its best when it gives you tools to solve some monotonous parts in the levels, it’s why I fucking adore the platform beam in 1 so much.
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f62fde No.16746178
>>16745967
In Megaman 1 most robos were designed like rock and had similar height, except maybe for gutsman, but most of them looked similar to rock. And it continues until Megaman 6 where the robot masters were actual killing machines. There were always some robot masters that looked "adult" or with different proportions, but were mostly the exception than the rule.
What I liked about powered up is that all the robot masters have the same proportions as Rock.
>>16746005
Technically, ZX is still the same spinoff as X. Because as >>16746023 said, X ended with X5, which then followed with the zero series, and after that one ended you go to the ZX serie. They all share similar mechanics in the first place.
X6 ended as a disaster because of that, and X7 followed the trainwreck by adding shitty mechanics in a jump to 3D and the worst fucking character ever. Axl.
>>16746023
>A remake of X5 that makes it suck less
Then that would mean
>Merging X5 and X6 and finish the ideas all of them have but keeping only the story of megaman X5
You know, it's a shame Maverick Hunter X was such a flop. I liked the idea of remaking the whole serie with an story in mind to fix the issues the previous one had on top of fixing X5/X6 when they finally reached there.
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fe5ae1 No.16746194
>>16745483
We should have a ZX to Battle Network's classic and Star Force's X.
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fe5ae1 No.16746249
>>16746178
Of the NES games, only 2, 5 and 6 had robot masters originally designed for combat. 1, 3 (officially at least) and 4 were all converted from peaceful robots.
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e9ddcc No.16746287
>>16744837
>>16746155
who is this pink character?
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bc63ae No.16746299
>>16746287
Rule 63 bounce man. What should have been but could never exist in current year.
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db3daa No.16746355
>>16746299
How the fuck is she walking in the kitchen?
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bc63ae No.16746366
>>16746355
With great effort
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48f03c No.16746516
>>16745973
I just remembered I spent way too long fixing up 7 demake Roll thing's graphics (they're all BMPs). The intro graphics are touched up, most of the special weapon costumes are edited for consistency with Powered Up/the base Roll sprite and/or to look better, and there's now a proper ending animation to replace Mega Man's. Beat also looked fucked up for some reason. Considering that Roll and Tango have never been on-screen together, Rush is reinstated as well. The game now uses version final2 of the base game instead of final, whatever the difference is.
It's not perfect, mind you, but the tranny nigger didn't do a flawless job in the first place. Also don't look up the guy who originally made it.
Old one's here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2giv3xq14ltxmqp/Rockman7Roll.zip?dl=0 and shown off here www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mybXq5zyLM
Base game's here: https://www7.atwiki.jp/wakuwakusuru/pub/final2.zip
Too bad it stutters too much for me to like it more than the SNES version.
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65d3fa No.16746525
Are there any good romhacks/fangames for the Mega Man X series? Something on the level of Mega Man Unlimited or Minus Infinity.
>>16745484
X8's level design is too gimmicky for my taste. There isn't a straight forward platforming level, it's all
>have a stealth level
>have a cyber peacock styled level where all you do is shoot droids
>have a ride armor focused level
>have a ride whateverthebikeiscalled focused level
>have another one but this time it's 3D
>have a vertical autoscroller(the level with the really sick guitar track everyone posts)
Not to mention this time the game has to account for three characters that play completely differently so no shit the level design is ass.
One thing I really remember boiling my blood is the fact that all the bosses in X8 seemed to have incredibly long recovery times. In fact I might be misremembering this but they all had attacks that made them invincible for the duration.
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f62fde No.16746531
>>16746525
>have a vertical autoscroller(the level with the really sick guitar track everyone posts)
Are you talking about X6?
>In fact I might be misremembering this but they all had attacks that made them invincible for the duration.
Problem carried over from X7.
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65d3fa No.16746532
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>>16746531
No I'm talking about the space elevator level.
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fe5ae1 No.16746563
>>16745973
>>16746516
Any of the good Romhacks compatible with (or have a combined patch for) Roll mods?
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48f03c No.16746566
>>16746525
>Are there any good romhacks/fangames for the Mega Man X series?
Mega Man X Corrupted.
:^(
X8 is kind of shit for the reasons you mentioned. My favorite part was doing the whole snowmobile level to have X and Zero get an upgrade right above the boss door, then having to do the entire level again to have Axl glide directly to the left to get another upgrade. My second-favorite part was playing on Hard where you die in two hits because I mistakenly thought that was the only difficulty where you can fight the real final boss, who's invincible 90% of the time for no reason like every other boss and has an instant kill attack at the very end.
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f62fde No.16746588
>>16746566
>My favorite part was doing the whole snowmobile level to have X and Zero get an upgrade right above the boss door
I used to do this with Jet Stingray because it required no extra skills and Jet Stingray himself was incredibly easy to cheese.
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48f03c No.16746788
>>16746563
Romhacking.net has Rockman No Constancy (full Mega Man 2 hack) and Mega Man 3 Improvement (bugfixes and improved performance, among other things) with Roll.
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3070/
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2799/
I don't like Zynk Oxhyde either. He types like a fag.
>>16746588
Oh right, if you didn't have Zero or the right weapon to melt the ice, you have to do the entire level a third time.
I hope you appreciate me downloading X4 and shooping a screenshot to fix that pic.
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fe5ae1 No.16746833
>>16746788
I knew about those. Was wondering if there were any others.
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c93327 No.16746841
>>16746833
There's one for X5 that gives you both the Z-Buster and Fourth/Force armor, and also removes all of Alia's ingame dialog.
>>16746566
>Mega Man X Corrupted.
Is it never ever now or is he still releasing updates?
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72cc23 No.16746846
>>16744854
>MM7 high
>MM5 low
that tier list has some weird taste
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48f03c No.16746864
>>16746833
Then you should have fucking
I don't think so.
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935d9a No.16746962
>>16745015
Never played 6 and a a ten second search on google didn't give me anything. What am I in for?
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935d9a No.16746964
>>16746962
Never mind, I am an illiterate nigger who doesn't read posts all the way.
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20257b No.16746973
Why do I find Leviathan sexy?
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9e213a No.16746978
>>16746973
You might like lolis and/or femboys.
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20257b No.16746985
>>16746978
Loli depends 100% on the art. Traps as well.
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9e213a No.16746987
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bc63ae No.16747254
>>16746846
MM7 was like the best of both worlds from classic MM and X, plus the final Wily fight, while fucking hard, was really fucking fun when you realized how his bullets worked and easy ways to dodge them.
I need to give 5 another try though. Seems like a lot of people loved that one but besides the focus on protoman I didn’t like much about it. I remember just blasting through it like I did 10 but that could be because that was when I finally had gotten gud at the genre.
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f62fde No.16747291
>>16746788
>Spoiler
Yes, yes I do, you madman.
>>16746841
>Is it never ever now or is he still releasing updates?
Both. He keeps updating the game but there are so many updates that it's probably never ever.
Also, I'm sure it will suffer from feature creeping.
>>16746973
>>16746985
Makes sense. Megaman Zero is a great game but it's art is faggot tier. It could be better, but there are like 2 major female characters that take advantage of the style.
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3d2a5a No.16747297
>>16744854
>MM2 on mid tier
>Megaman 1 on top tier
brain problems.
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3d2a5a No.16747302
>>16746841
There are updates but the dev is a huge feature creep
the game is playable but he won't release it until he is satisfied. I understand that, but he could always release later versions/update the game.
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bc63ae No.16747325
>>16747297
Mega man 1 is fun as hell to break, though the bosses were pretty imbalanced.
Mega man 2 had annoying platforming segments that used ProtoRush. It’s been about two years since I’ve played 2, but I remember having other issues with it.
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565bab No.16747404
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I remember having fun playing Mega Man 8, but it seems most people think that game is shit. Maybe I should replay it just to see how hold up.
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bc63ae No.16747424
>>16747404
The issue with 8 is that it takes some steps back from 6 and 7 and tries to lean more towards the PS1 X series but ends up being a neutered X game. They nerfed the slide so that it’s pointless to use, the “jump jump, slide slide” missions aren’t terribly fun, and in general it’s just slower than the other games. There’s some fun to be had there though. I’d say MM is one of those series where even the worst games are still fun.
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c08f3d No.16747556
>>16747404
8 had garbage VAs, and that shitty snow board section. The shooter parts were cool but the rest was forgettable or terrible.
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b1571c No.16748903
Out of curiosity, how bad is the cliffhanger in Advent? Does it leave you unsatisfied?
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f62fde No.16748962
>>16748903
Pic related, capcom exec. I'd kill for a continuation, and a proper one. Fuck Model A's gimmick.
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7bd92e No.16748979
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db1417 No.16749047
>>16748979
I meant out of the mainline series, haven’t played the .EXE series yet but it has been on my backlog forever. RPG’s are a bit harder for me to get into as I get bored with them pretty easily.
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6b4ce3 No.16749052
I wonder how Mighty Gunvolt Burst is as it just came out for pc today. Still haven't tried it out yet has it's not been cracked as of yet.
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c8b218 No.16749069
I wonder if Capcom will finally get a proper Mega Maker.
They already tried it a few times, but now that they can see that Mario Maker is selling like hotcakes, maybe they will try harder.
Not to mention theres a fanmade one with a pretty respectable sized community.
The best possible thing they could do for it is to have a Robot Master-creator allowing you to design your own robot master, its AI, and its copy weapon.
Have a few base bodies, eg: Standard, Tall, Airman-shape, ect., and then allow further visual customization, along with Soul Calibur style accessorys and shit to attach.
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0eef50 No.16749111
>>16749047
Battle Network is about as far away as possible from an RPG as you can get while still calling it an RPG, really it's closer to a card game but with an active battle system. The only permanent upgrades you can get after the second game are HP upgrades, upgrades that give you more freedom to choose what chip you use in the start of a battle, and the ability to transform into different forms by fulfilling certain conditions depending on the game. Everything else you have to pick and choose what to utilize, even the latter has a time limit and in the 4th and 5th games you have to discard a chip in order to use them at all.
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74bc9c No.16749116
>Only play Megamen's when I was a kid plus 1 recently
>got to two or three when I was younger but never got passed 1 as an adult
Even if I had a real deal NES as a kid I was poor some games I just never got too much into.
I played a GC game and for the life of me couldn't beat the first boss, eventually I did and then I had no clue how the fuck to proceed, anyone know what Megaman games were on GC?
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efbaab No.16749119
>>16749116
There were some compilation games, but the only original title was Network Transmission, a game in the EXE series that is dubiously canon.
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efbaab No.16749122
>>16749119
Oh, I guess Command Mission was also on it.
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74bc9c No.16749123
>>16749119
It was a exe series one I think CGXX?
>>16749122
Well I played something and it had some weird fucking way to beat the boss and normal attacks just didn't work somehow
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b1571c No.16749128
>>16748962
Shit, I was planning on playing through the Zero series next. Guess I’ll have to be ready for a fucked up cliffhanger but I guess it won’t be the first time in the MM series that has happened.
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48f03c No.16749129
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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efbaab No.16749130
>>16749123
Sounds like you're referring to the boss' Life Aura ability that blocks all attacks under a certain damage amount.
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efbaab No.16749132
>>16749128
So far, Zero is the only series that actually got an ironclad ending.
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74bc9c No.16749134
>>16749129
I played this one yeah but no it's not the rigtht one.
It was jrpg like essentially.
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efbaab No.16749136
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>>16749134
Then you're talking Command Mission.
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74bc9c No.16749141
>>16749136
Well I'm not sure which one of those I played, the first boss just wouldn't die regardless if I hit it or not and after a few losses I eventually won. Of course there's no save inbetween as it rushes you into the mission I recall or something and if you lose game over so I had to do it like four times before I succeeded I dunno what I was doing wrong or what but I have many memories of being pissed off about it good thing I only rented the game
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c5aff0 No.16749203
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>>16747404
8 was alright. Excellent spritework and color. Had some of the best OST in the mainline series. The only parts people complain about are the snowboard sections, which is hard sure, but there were only 2 of those in the whole game. It wasn't gamebreaking.
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efbaab No.16749207
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c5aff0 No.16749231
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f62fde No.16749235
>>16749203
>which is hard sure, but there were only 2 of those in the whole game
The complain isn't that they are hard, but it's a needlessly convoluted mechanic in a game that has nothing to do with that mechanic, then it becomes more tedious than hard. Also, aren't 3 instances? The snow level, another level when you unlock the other robot masters, and Willy's Castle?
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c5aff0 No.16749263
>>16749235
>but it's a needlessly convoluted mechanic
Jump and slide are too convoluted? They're basically X's speeder levels.
>Aren't 3 instances
I remember the snow level having one or two, and Wily's castle having one. Haven't played it in a long time.
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f62fde No.16749281
>>16749263
>They're basically X's speeder levels
But done wrong. Speeders ran at an speed that gave you enough time to react, and as far as I remember, had far less insta death instances, on top of being fairly short. The Megaman 8 one is the contrary of all of that. And I say it's convoluted not only for the actions your take but things from the timing to the insta deaths, which makes going through them a matter of muscle memory.
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bc63ae No.16749375
>>16749129
Man, that looks pretty bad.
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bc63ae No.16749456
>>16746962
6 was definitely one of my favorites as it gives you a ton of options for doing the levels but those options don’t completely break the game and ruin the difficulty.
>>16749111
We’ll see if I go for those after I play the original games again. I definitely have a huge MM itch at the moment so it’ll either be MMBN series or the MMZ series. After watching the Capcom episode of Gamecenter CX both are pretty high on my backlog list.
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c0507b No.16749519
>>16749052
It's pretty good. Level design is fine and bosses are fun to fight. Only issue is instead of gaining unique weapons from bosses you collect a bunch of chips that allow you to make your own (adjusting shot type, ammo, how bullets react when they hit like bouncing or blowing up etc, theres a ton of customization). If you play around with it there's a lot of fun to be had but a lot of people will just find an optimal set up to kill everything easily. Set bullet duration to .2 seconds, autofire 15 bullets a second, maximum bullets allowed on screen, dissipate on hit, with the highest damage multiplier you can handle. This makes a very close range melta gun that will burn through almost anything in the game damn near instantly as nothing gets mercy invincibility.
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72cc23 No.16749560
>>16748903
with Master Albert out of the way, Master Thomas announces his bid for world domination
Thomas Light, Albert Wily, and Mikhail Cossack's brains and/or personality engrams have survived hundreds of years into the future. And don't even give me that names are coincidental bullshit; Wily survives the next 5000 years and opens a boat shop
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72cc23 No.16749569
>>16747254
half the stages in 5 have a truly unique gimmick that changes the way you play or at least makes you think it's neat
7, I felt, had much too large sprites, and fucked up jump physics. The demake fixes all of this, and yes, the stage design is pretty damn good. But they suffer for the default gameplay
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f62fde No.16750061
>>16749560
It isn't really stated that they are, in fact, the originals. I mean, Light of all people turning the way he did. So it was probably an homage that went wrong.
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0eef50 No.16750162
>>16749456
Here's a translation of the DS port of the first game. If you're not feeling the games, at the very least try out 3 or 6 and see if your opinion changed. 3 because it has a plot that's a bit deeper than the usual monster-of-the-week stuff and has a post-game that's as long as the main game. 6 because partway through the game due to plot you absorb the final boss of the game, and you spend the rest of the game marveling at how powerful you've gotten as you tear every boss a new asshole. Also if you're going to play 6 then you should find a japanese translated version of it because the english version cucked out and removed an entire scenario as it's based on a game series that sold like shit.
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bc63ae No.16750178
>>16749569
I was going to go straight from 3 to 6, but I’ll fit 5 in there. Also, instead of replaying 7 I figured I would play the Roll demake the anon posted here >>16746516 so I guess we’ll see how that stacks up.
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bc63ae No.16750201
>>16750162
Thank ya
I just change the file type to .ds right?
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20257b No.16750309
>>16748903
>>16748962
Literally one of the worst, most boring, disappointing, unsatisfying games I've ever played with such a promising cover. Only good for Buckfire gameplay, some stage and boss music with most being unmemorable and annoying at worst and and Ashe with her sexy, sassy booty obsession. How do you fuck up a player character that looks like an Axl reference who's supposed to apparently stylishly blitz through everything while DUAL WIELDING BUSTERS? Can't believe I kept doing everything just waiting for some kind of cool unlockable or new power that was actually your own and not a shitty copy. Getting Model ZX for the first time and trying out the saber as that upbeat, exciting airship theme played gave me such a feeling of "now the game really begins, have fun, player" well before I even stared collecting the other Biometals. Glad I didn't play that first.
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f62fde No.16750399
>>16750309
>Can't believe I kept doing everything just waiting for some kind of cool unlockable or new power that was actually your own and not a shitty copy. Getting Model ZX for the first time and trying out the saber as that upbeat
That was pretty much my problem too. Playing as a boss sounds exciting but it isn't practical and the use is so limited it might as well just be a gimmick. I agree that somehow upgrading model A and give it new abilities would have been great. I also found really unsatisfying playing with the other models because, in the end of the day, you are playing as a copy of the user, and not using the biometal on itself. So you are not using model ZX, you are using Aile/Vent using model ZX, and that's fucking shit.
I'm guessing that they wanted to use Model A copy gimmick to use the other models without actually taking the biometal out of the users like you did in the original ZX. However, I think the gimmick could have been handle better.
For example, I would have put model A copying bosses, cool and all, but I would also make it so that copying other models would have give Ashley and Grey special properties instead of just fucking copy it. Additionally, I would have make it so that the ZX model did the same, after all, transformations in ZX were ZL, ZH, ZF and ZP, and as so, model ZX could have gained the ability to transform into different models without actually having the model itself. And ON TOP of that, also play as the other models on itself.
Basically, make using model A in an interesting way. Hell, getting bosses abilities should have boosted Model A's owns abilities would have been neat. ZXA was simply lazy.
About the only good thing ZXA did was giving us a muscle brown woman, because even Model L is a fucking boy now.
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74bc9c No.16750437
>>16750178
Roll succs post actual girls.
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0eef50 No.16750502
>>16750201
Just remove the .swf part.
Oh yeah, if you use the Virtual Console patches for the GBA versions of 2 and forward you can get chips that you only receive from multiplayer, and anything else you can't get from the base game. Most of them are not balanced for normal use so I'd only use them during postgame or your second playthrough. Don't play the Blue version of 3 unless you intend to abuse Folderback which is the most overpowered chip in the entire series. It's disgusting how much it breaks the game. Chaud is a faggot.
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570006 No.16752942
>>16750399
At least model ZX in ZXA isn't a watered down MMZ, he pretty much now came with all the Z skills and if you knew how to you could do one and a half bars off a bosses HP in a single combo chaining them all together.
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292625 No.16754131
>>16750437
>not wanting to Roll
Don’t be a gay
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20257b No.16754194
>>16754131
Fucking hot art.
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2ddc92 No.16754255
>what’s your favorite OST
Mega Man 2
>favorite Robot Master
All of the MM11 bosses. I can't pick which one I like more.
>favorite game in the series
MM7
>==favorite rom hack==
Mega Man 3 Ultimate (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3032/) It fixes a lot of problems I had with the original.
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48f03c No.16754412
Is ProtoMagicalGirl what happens when you play too much Mega Man?
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e33208 No.16754791
>>16754194
We need more yandete malfunctioning Roll.
>>16754255
>9 in D tier
Strange, also, the only sad thing about the 11 bosses is they are so good but you have to fight the temptation to use the speed gear out of frustration.
>>16754412
…. is that some weird tranny joke or is he actually identifying as some throw away mechanic for the new game?
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cafba8 No.16754812
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e33208 No.16754832
>>16754812
That’s unsettling
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1c4bc5 No.16754846
>>16754791
Absolutely real. That's the tranny that was heavily featured during AGDQ, and this nonsense is one of the reasons he's not on camera anymore
http://archive.fo/lYte0
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2ddc92 No.16754853
>>16754791
For me, 9 failed in trying to be MM2 and not even achieving that. It feels like a step back in terms of mechanics and design, there are some bullshit elements, and sometimes it's too difficult than it has any right to be when you're playing for the first time (I know you die a lot when you play a game for the first time, but, i dunno, in this game sometimes it felt like the game expected me to know what to do despite giving me no clues at all). The only good thing about MM9 is the music and graphics.
In regards to MM11, I used the speed gear quite often and the bosses still felt challenging. You're limited in how much of the gears you use and the recharge time after overheating is long, so you can't rely on them too much.
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fc39c8 No.16754879
So out of curiosity, are any of the Guvolt games any good? I hear the MC is some guy on a crusade to purge all the faggots with super ocdonutsteel powers and he looked and played pretty cool with plenty of dashing.
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e33208 No.16754882
>>16754846
It’s not even rage inducing, the dude genuinely needs help but I imagine anyone legally licensed to give it to him would just drag him deeper down.
>>16754853
Huh, I didn’t seem to have nearly the issues with 9 that you did, but I will admit some parts were really fucking hard but I excused them as something made to stump veterans of the series. Really my only complaint is that I missed the slide which the protoman mode had.
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9e213a No.16754890
>>16754255
>Powered Up in S Tier
I agree, but I'm also a autism that ships Ice Man and Roll. What makes it so good to normal people?
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e33208 No.16754891
>>16754879
It plays really nice and looks really nice, BUT the level designs are pretty uninspired and not terribly challenging. OST can be surprisingly good at times. Watch a video or two of the gameplay and see if it’s something you can get into.
Right now the Switch version is the best so if you have that option go that route.
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fc39c8 No.16754895
>>16754890
Playable bosses, but the fps was pretty fuck.
>>16754891
Apparently I'm mistaken because what I've described was a side character. GV plays pretty weird, I don't think is defensive of a character fits in a MM styled game
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9e213a No.16754896
>>16754895
>Playable bosses
I'm surprised it wasn't thought of sooner and hasn't been done since. It was adorable in Powered Up's case and would be really cool for little what-if storylines in the other games.
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fc39c8 No.16754905
>>16754896
There's playable Vile in the PSP x1 remake but that's it. Shame because there's a few X bosses I'd love to play
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9e213a No.16754911
>>16754905
I can imagine
>Chill Penguin
>all the GOTTA GO FAST of Oil Man without having to deal with Oil Man's weapon
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f62fde No.16754941
>>16754879
Gunvolt plays like Mighty Number 9 but better. The first game is nothing to write home about, pretty enjoyable, looks pretty, but it's very flawed, not even close to any megaman game. Gunvolt 2, however, Introduces Coppen, who has a more aggressive gameplay, and that's where the game picks up.
>>16754882
>Miguel
>Brandon Gay
Heh.
>>16754890
It was pretty much peak Megaman 3D.
>Remake of the first game
>Tons of additional content
>Tons of unlockables including rolls
>Roll's pantsu shots
>Level editor
>Being able to play as bosses
>All bosses had their own storyline
>Nice style for a 3D remake
>>16754905
Vile was a massive step down from playing as all bosses.
Thing is, Bosses in Megaman X are a bit more complex than the ones in classic megaman, so it explains why they would avoid it, but still.
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fe5ae1 No.16754944
>>16749129
>>16749116
Transmission has a really broken difficulty curve. The first boss is by far the hardest. After that it's much easier.
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e33208 No.16754961
>>16754941
Conman may have gotten a bad rep, but he was nothing if not a passionate ideas guy. Hell, we have him to thank for the onimusha series as well.
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fc39c8 No.16754969
>>16754961
Who's to blame for how rushed the games got later?
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c8b218 No.16754982
MM8BDM is very nice.
The classes mod for it is also very nice.
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f62fde No.16755042
>>16754961
The problem was conman retarded approach. First, he wanted to westernize games, and it could work, the problem is that he still saw it with Japanese eyes. So instead of actually trying to make japanese games more attractive to western games by making japanese culture approachable and mixing both west and japan, he pretty much got rid of absolutely everything japanese and apped western stereotypes into games.
Add that to rushing games left and right, with a bunch of unfinished games inbetween, including Megaman X5 and X6 and you'll have a shit stained legacy.
>>16754969
What games got rushed?
>>16754982
Always wanted to try it when /v/ played it. Never got around it.
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b861ec No.16755080
>>16754982
I definitely prefer it with the classes mod. If I'm playing as Metal Man, I want to be playing as Metal Man.
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fc39c8 No.16755100
>>16755042
Well X5, X6 and X7 were clearly rushed.
X5
>Lots of backgrounds copied over from X4
>Level gimmicks that seem to appear for only 10 seconds and then never again(gravity switching from the Necrobat stage, for example)
>the absolute worst lineup of subweapons in any MM game I can think of. Including the shitty super slow guided missile that sticks you in place. To the point that they didn't even use the subweapon roster for the X fight if you're playing as Zero.
>barely thought out boss level system that either makes bosses die too quickly(See your first fight against them on any difficulty unless you get a consistent S hunter rank) or too slowly(See the refights on Xtreme where they become lvl 99 and they take a billion shots, but never add attacks or anything)
>Absolute joke bosses like both Dynamo forms, the X/Zero fight or the Necrobat fight where he literally just slowly moves around in a square
>X's Force Armor being so absurdly overpowered
>Zero being so absurdly overpowered
>Barely thought out plot that locks you out of using Zero based on luck, even if you end up collecting all the parts for the space shuttle
>Falcon Armor is a shit gimmick that feels like it was made solely to get the Gaia armor, and the gaia armor feels like a gimmick to cheese the first and second Virus level
>Barely thought out upgrade part system that's either super retarded shit like "less damage taken when dashing" or super broken shit like Zero's saber destroying 90% of projectiles in the game, or X's buster instantly firing charged shots
>Speaking of Zero, his crescent slash is absurdly good
>Alia's ingame dialog breaking the flow of the game harder than Doom 2016's glory kills there's a romhack for it, thank god
I think X6 and X7 are obvious.
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f62fde No.16755148
>>16755100
Ah, no, I thought you meant AFTER conman left.
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9e213a No.16755153
>>16755042
>Devil Kings
Don't tell me Con Man was responsible for that shit.
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2ddc92 No.16755442
>>16754255
Here's my list for MMX too.
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f62fde No.16755860
>>16755153
Indirectly, yes. The japanese counterpart was a pretty interesting game, even if not stellar. But the western release got a shit ton of cut content, name and story changes just to fir a western audience because the game had heavy japanese story into it, and the worst part was the Devil May Cry tackled in. All because conman though it was better to pander to the west than actually do what they've been doing great.
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9e213a No.16755951
>>16755860
Oh yes. I am very aware of what they did to Sengoku Basara 1. A shame that the second try with 3 didn't do so hot either, despite great localization, on the standard that they didn't butcher it.
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de5b7f No.16756003
>>16755100
>Alia's ingame dialog breaking the flow of the game harder than Doom 2016's glory kills
if you're not at full health you just kill them normally.
X4 was best megaman
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25142d No.16756011
>>16744837
Jesus christ i wanna fuck that second one
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f62fde No.16756148
>>16755951
Because conman wasn't entirely wrong, the problem, as I said, was his approach.
If you want to sell japanese games to the west you need to make the west familiar with japan culture. Not just taking the japanese part out of the fucking window.
>>16756003
I think even X4 had his flaws. I wish that maybe one day all the flaws can be fixed. But never ever.
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9e213a No.16756216
>>16756148
That might be what sunk Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes, given it was the third game in a series that until that time was chronological. As much as SB loosely adheres to history.
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fc39c8 No.16756522
>>16756003
Surprisingly X5 becomes a much better game when you play it on Xtreme as only Unarmored X. It's amazing how much the Force Armor has you miss out because it's so powerful.
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fc39c8 No.16756540
>>16756522
One last thing since I'd like to get this off my chest, if you'd like to know exactly how different of a game X5 becomes with unarmored X, I suggest you fire up the game and play Duff Mcwhalen's stage once with the Force armor and once with unarmored X. What used to be a shitty, slow and pathetically boring autoscroller becomes a pretty intense and deadly fight.
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43c2f7 No.16758180
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9e213a No.16758208
>>16758180
Nice themed coloring.
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41ad38 No.16758237
>>16758180
but where's Zero.exe
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f62fde No.16758261
>>16756540
My problem with X5 onwards is that having the armors unlocked from the get go was fucking stupid, specially because of how overpowered they were.
I like the idea of having the best gear in the first level and have it taken away from you, because it gives you a taste of how powerful you can be, but actually keeping it is retarded.
>>16758180
Could have been better, specially without the damn watermark. What about an actual sign on the corner?
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155e1d No.16758320
>>16758237
Looks like his spot was stolen by a shitty character from a game that never happened.
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9f90c4 No.16761175
>>16758180
Rogue doesn't really have that much in common with zero aside from being more serious and taciturn compared to the protags. Zero values his friends despite not being that much open but rogue hates the notion of comradery in general and only see's it as a necessary evil at best.
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48f03c No.16761266
>>16758180
>2DPD Tumblr art
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fe5ae1 No.16761520
What I get from this thread and other discussions on X is that the series dropped off hard after the third game. How did it keep selling long enough to keep getting sequels as long as it did?
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aa7d09 No.16775933
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16746525
X games surprisingly don't have any good ones besides the Zero Project for X3, which is more like an unofficial patch. There is X1 generations which seems to redo the level design, but none of the bosses are changed and all of the tiles are ugly squares. There is a Kaizo hack of X4 available, but can only be done on PC with specific conditions:
https://github.com/Appendko/RockmanX4Boost/
X1 also has Hard Type, a kind of Kaizo edit that's easier to run than X4 Boost:
http://ngplus.net/index.php?/files/file/16-mega-man-x-hard-type/
I blame that there's no tools available for any of the X games like SMILE has, having multiple games doesn't help for deciding which one has the best features and focusing ASM edits on that one game. But for a traditional romhack experience, go for Rockman CX.
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86bee3 No.16775940
Leaker with apparently accurate history
http://archive.ph/zQXcN
>new Battle Network game in production
>it's a fucking mobage with gacha
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14384e No.16775958
So how about that new Gunvolt game?
>>16761520
I don't think the games sold well as much as they were super cheap and quick to make. X6 had what, 6 months in development?
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e9af6d No.16776704
>>16775940
Which is weird considering that Rockman X Dive had a closed beta test not too long ago and they're trying to finalize that. So what gives?
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b691b4 No.16777153
>>16748903
Master Thomas also brings back every humanoid reploid and human you fought for no reason whatsoever after Model Zero sacrifices itself… again…again…
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b2cf35 No.16777167
>>16775940
but muh capcom redemption arc!
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505117 No.16780810
>>16745937
any tips on how to make your own level?
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