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File: 2e0cbabff179018⋯.png (1.59 MB, 2402x3940, 1201:1970, MM11Roll.png)

2ee885  No.16744199

Games with good examples of robots or AI characters?

A pet peeve of mine is when a "robot" character doesn't act robotic at all. Robots who indistinguishably look and act the same as a human character would just feels like lazy writing imo. I take this issue with Roll (mega man 11) and Android 21 (dragon ball fighterz) in particular. They don't have a robotic-sounding voice like Aigis (persona 3) or SHODAN (system shock 2), don't have an obviously robotic body like Robo (chrono trigger) or Legion (mass effect), and Roll / Android 21 display "personalities" and "emotional reactions" like a human would. Nothing about them gives away the fact that they're robots.

I mean, if you're going to write a robot character as if they were a normal biological human, it seems like a waste. Not once throughout Mega Man 11 did Roll come across to me as a robot. We're just told she's one, despite doing nothing robotic throughout the game.

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8258f4  No.16744209

File: 335777c074ce284⋯.jpg (91.4 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1556164527.jpg)

Your first mistake was assuming a bio-android is mechanical.

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fdd937  No.16744214

File: 67d33d3dc27e893⋯.jpg (177.48 KB, 749x1000, 749:1000, 1452259188951.jpg)

Your second mistake was opening up this thread by shit talking Roll.

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0507f5  No.16744216

>hating Roll

You do not belong here

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c77886  No.16744217

>>16744199

>even so much as thinking of not calling Roll perfect

Disgusting

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8eb2d7  No.16744225

File: e419f90d7e93c02⋯.jpeg (36.23 KB, 474x632, 3:4, th.jpeg)

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04a689  No.16744240

Light didn't program Roll to be an obedient slave, he wanted his robots to be indistinguishable from humans, which is why he put X in a capsule to run tests for a hundred years.

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2ee885  No.16744243

File: 193a1975810dc6d⋯.jpg (115.3 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Tima.jpg)

>>16744209

>bio-android

At that point, you're just dealing with genetic splicing and not robotics. A totally different scientific area. So why not just call Android 21 a genetic experiment based off of Buu? Android 21 is honestly more similar to Baby than Android 15. There's no need to bring in the word "android" and all the mechanical connotations that come along with it.

>>16744214

>>16744216

>>16744217

I saw an anime movie recently called Metropolis. If I could rewrite Roll based of another character, it'd be as Tima from that movie. A film that showed that you can create a cute robot girl while still retaining the robotic mannerisms.

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66b813  No.16744259

>The whole point of reploids is that they're nearly identical to humans both mentally and physically externally, and despite this they still face discrimination from humans like Dr. Wily who exploit and abuse them as slaves for personal gain

<You: "WHY THEY NO BEEP BOOP"

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c467c4  No.16744273

>>16744243

The terminology for android in dbz is used for a variety of synthetic beings created by doctor gero. Even if the being is organic it's still considered an android for some reason.

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b65d21  No.16744287

>>16744240

Roll was designed to be the perfect cock sleeve.

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2ee885  No.16744350

File: 6501d3ce7752d5b⋯.webm (2.15 MB, 640x360, 16:9, sadcomputernoises.webm)

File: f45d145f6275c0c⋯.mp4 (2.43 MB, 412x360, 103:90, fleshwound.mp4)

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File: d56304ad0a678bb⋯.jpeg (393.43 KB, 957x537, 319:179, android-16-head.jpeg)

>>16744259

Frankly, a beep booping robot would be more believable writing for a robot character imo. At least you'd be able to tell that it's a robot from the way it speaks.

I can buy that Mega Man and Proto Man are robots because they've shown ingame that they're clearly not human. You can see Proto Man reduced to a scrap pile and still be able to talk just fine with you. Mega Man's endoskeleton can be seen in the Game Boy games to show how inhuman he truly is.

I just can't buy that Roll is a robot though. She hasn't done anything to suggest that she is one.

>>16744273

I guess "Android" was just Dr. Gero's favorite umbrella term for his robots then. Even when the more biological Android 21 was not as mechanical as Android 16, who got his head blown and you could see the hardware in his neck.

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eb7b7c  No.16744383

Would you tease a robowaifu by calling her synthetic nipples beep boops?

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04a689  No.16745447

>>16744350

Look at some official art of the older games, she has doll joints and thrusters in her feet (she lost them starting from MM8, presumably Light redesigned her to be more fuckable as >>16744287 says, now she just looks like s normal blonde little girl), iirc she also has a buster in powered up but i don't remember if that game's canon or not.

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67b97c  No.16745554

File: 8dd3b614c50406a⋯.png (246.78 KB, 421x604, 421:604, MM1_less_fuckable_artwork.PNG)

File: f4fddc48ef4965a⋯.png (912.05 KB, 1373x577, 1373:577, roll_model_sheet.PNG)

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>>16745447

IIRC she has a buster in the cellphone remake of 1 and in MvC, where she pulls it out from under her dress and slides it over her arm. In Powered Up her only attack is swinging shit around.

Hideki Ishikawa does hentai on the side if you couldn't tell.

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051aa3  No.16746308

>>16744383

She doesn't have nipples.

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9e4485  No.16748611

File: ffb81e89311c835⋯.gif (915.28 KB, 245x285, 49:57, yeah_okay_slut.gif)

>>16744199

>They don't have a robotic-sounding voice

Yes because by the time the world has robots capable of such high-level thought capability presumably through advanced interconnected neural networks, we're still going to have them speak like Microsoft Sam.

Your expectations are moronic.

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d88250  No.16748697

>>16744243

The DBZ androids aren't even called androids in Japanese. They're called artificial humans.

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a7c3d2  No.16748860

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>>16744199

I wanna fug Demi

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0507f5  No.16748889

>>16745554

One thing I’ll always appreciate about Conman was that he was just an artist that wanted to make a game about a little robot. It’s why capcom had such a focus on good art for a while.

aside from Mighty No 9 his games have been pretty good.

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07eb6c  No.16748894

>>16748889

That's because he only had creative control and didn't actually do a lot of the work

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dde051  No.16749617

>>16746308

Listen buddy, if your robo-waifu doesn't have a built in refrigeration unit so that she can dispense ice-cold gold top jersey milk from her beep boops on demand then she is trash.

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c36cd0  No.16749643

File: 63fce5586780f56⋯.png (349.41 KB, 1086x799, 1086:799, robot_gf.png)

/robowaifu/ represent

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f0a01c  No.16749689

>>16744350

The term used for all the Androids in DB in original Japanese literally meant "artificial human" so it covered everything from robots to cyborgs to genetic experiments. There weren't many terms that sounded good in English.

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b871f1  No.16749796

File: 7d4e4b5b7a1a0f2⋯.jpg (533.58 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 50146537_p2.jpg)

>>16744350

>>16749689

It's important to note that the word android itself originally just meant artificial human. Specifically artificial male human. Its not "an-droid", it's "andr-oid": man-like. Just like gyn-oid is woman like. The term was not restricted to mean electro-mechanical human like it seems to have become now.

Actually neither was the term Robot either. The robots in RUR were something like Blade Runner type replicants as well.

Also anyone who hates on Roll is a dirty heretic.

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b437cd  No.16750599

>>16749796

So, to hop back to the DBZ matter, it's 18 and 21 that are the odd ones out in that naming basis, because then they should by gynoids. In short, Gero couldn't find a good word in the English Dub, since 'replicant' doesn't really roll off the tongue.

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fd832c  No.16750645

Kill all clankers! Robo war now!

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559946  No.16763409

File: e16e7d25212bff7⋯.jpg (168.45 KB, 1122x1752, 187:292, zaku.jpg)

Hey Mark, than this be a makeshift /clang/ until it comes back?

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c9ca6d  No.16763414

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>>16763409

Only if you only post girls 4 and below on this scale.

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4e2dd3  No.16763443

>>16749796

"Android" is a word meant to be used in a sex-neutral way like "mankind" is. "Gynoid" shows up much later (some say it was coined by a feminist trying to force a distinction) and even today only really shows up in fetish porn. Unfortunately, the common meaning of "android" is now "robot" so everything's all over the damn place.

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3abeeb  No.16763452

>>16763443

>"Android" is a word meant to be used in a sex-neutral way like "mankind" is

No it's not. Andro- is a prefix that specifically means male. If it had been intended to mean artificial human instead of artificial male then they would have been called "hominoids".

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08eb77  No.16763453

tbh would grease that female zaku

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4e2dd3  No.16763479

>>16763452

Since "gynoid" never appeared until 1985, it's really hard to believe that every single use of "android" from the 1880s until then specifically referred to male artificial humans- the focus was on the artificial, not whether they had dicks or not. The incorrect use of Greek prefixes is nothing new, and "android" referred to artificial humans in general.

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29f350  No.16763608

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>>16763414

Weird, I'm a 10 on that scale.

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d4b52c  No.16765422

>>16763414

>4 and below

You're tearing me apart, Anon.

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ccb536  No.16766444

File: 9254d2adb9d491a⋯.gif (868.5 KB, 150x150, 1:1, rolling out.gif)

File: fd3d01ae1f0ab0c⋯.jpg (1004.69 KB, 3264x2448, 4:3, rollglued.jpg)

post more Roll

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76a501  No.16766640

File: ae3f64ea0cfb9d4⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 815.59 KB, 1023x666, 341:222, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16766444

Those digits deserve something special.

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5cc4e1  No.16766876

Trials Fusion

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f77de2  No.16770967

>>16763452

>>16763479

>>16763443

> If it had been intended to mean artificial human instead of artificial male then they would have been called "hominoids".

You guys realize the word "humanoid" is in the dictionary?

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0e5a98  No.16770972

File: fdecf479b9471ea⋯.jpg (105.63 KB, 780x1000, 39:50, Roll 0027 Chocolate Roll.jpg)

File: f449beb972c9f46⋯.jpg (57.8 KB, 400x533, 400:533, __roll_and_kalinka_cossack….jpg)

File: 8196587ecd683c8⋯.jpg (105.3 KB, 570x800, 57:80, Roll 0000.jpg)

>>16766640

Why would you do this to poor anon? He probably had a bad day, and you just went and kicked him while he was down.

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