2ee885 No.16744199
Games with good examples of robots or AI characters?
A pet peeve of mine is when a "robot" character doesn't act robotic at all. Robots who indistinguishably look and act the same as a human character would just feels like lazy writing imo. I take this issue with Roll (mega man 11) and Android 21 (dragon ball fighterz) in particular. They don't have a robotic-sounding voice like Aigis (persona 3) or SHODAN (system shock 2), don't have an obviously robotic body like Robo (chrono trigger) or Legion (mass effect), and Roll / Android 21 display "personalities" and "emotional reactions" like a human would. Nothing about them gives away the fact that they're robots.
I mean, if you're going to write a robot character as if they were a normal biological human, it seems like a waste. Not once throughout Mega Man 11 did Roll come across to me as a robot. We're just told she's one, despite doing nothing robotic throughout the game.
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8258f4 No.16744209
Your first mistake was assuming a bio-android is mechanical.
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fdd937 No.16744214
Your second mistake was opening up this thread by shit talking Roll.
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0507f5 No.16744216
>hating Roll
You do not belong here
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c77886 No.16744217
>>16744199
>even so much as thinking of not calling Roll perfect
Disgusting
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8eb2d7 No.16744225
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04a689 No.16744240
Light didn't program Roll to be an obedient slave, he wanted his robots to be indistinguishable from humans, which is why he put X in a capsule to run tests for a hundred years.
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2ee885 No.16744243
>>16744209
>bio-android
At that point, you're just dealing with genetic splicing and not robotics. A totally different scientific area. So why not just call Android 21 a genetic experiment based off of Buu? Android 21 is honestly more similar to Baby than Android 15. There's no need to bring in the word "android" and all the mechanical connotations that come along with it.
>>16744214
>>16744216
>>16744217
I saw an anime movie recently called Metropolis. If I could rewrite Roll based of another character, it'd be as Tima from that movie. A film that showed that you can create a cute robot girl while still retaining the robotic mannerisms.
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66b813 No.16744259
>The whole point of reploids is that they're nearly identical to humans both mentally and physically externally, and despite this they still face discrimination from humans like Dr. Wily who exploit and abuse them as slaves for personal gain
<You: "WHY THEY NO BEEP BOOP"
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c467c4 No.16744273
>>16744243
The terminology for android in dbz is used for a variety of synthetic beings created by doctor gero. Even if the being is organic it's still considered an android for some reason.
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b65d21 No.16744287
>>16744240
Roll was designed to be the perfect cock sleeve.
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2ee885 No.16744350
>>16744259
Frankly, a beep booping robot would be more believable writing for a robot character imo. At least you'd be able to tell that it's a robot from the way it speaks.
I can buy that Mega Man and Proto Man are robots because they've shown ingame that they're clearly not human. You can see Proto Man reduced to a scrap pile and still be able to talk just fine with you. Mega Man's endoskeleton can be seen in the Game Boy games to show how inhuman he truly is.
I just can't buy that Roll is a robot though. She hasn't done anything to suggest that she is one.
>>16744273
I guess "Android" was just Dr. Gero's favorite umbrella term for his robots then. Even when the more biological Android 21 was not as mechanical as Android 16, who got his head blown and you could see the hardware in his neck.
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eb7b7c No.16744383
Would you tease a robowaifu by calling her synthetic nipples beep boops?
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04a689 No.16745447
>>16744350
Look at some official art of the older games, she has doll joints and thrusters in her feet (she lost them starting from MM8, presumably Light redesigned her to be more fuckable as >>16744287 says, now she just looks like s normal blonde little girl), iirc she also has a buster in powered up but i don't remember if that game's canon or not.
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67b97c No.16745554
>>16745447
IIRC she has a buster in the cellphone remake of 1 and in MvC, where she pulls it out from under her dress and slides it over her arm. In Powered Up her only attack is swinging shit around.
Hideki Ishikawa does hentai on the side if you couldn't tell.
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051aa3 No.16746308
>>16744383
She doesn't have nipples.
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9e4485 No.16748611
>>16744199
>They don't have a robotic-sounding voice
Yes because by the time the world has robots capable of such high-level thought capability presumably through advanced interconnected neural networks, we're still going to have them speak like Microsoft Sam.
Your expectations are moronic.
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d88250 No.16748697
>>16744243
The DBZ androids aren't even called androids in Japanese. They're called artificial humans.
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a7c3d2 No.16748860
>>16744199
I wanna fug Demi
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0507f5 No.16748889
>>16745554
One thing I’ll always appreciate about Conman was that he was just an artist that wanted to make a game about a little robot. It’s why capcom had such a focus on good art for a while.
aside from Mighty No 9 his games have been pretty good.
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07eb6c No.16748894
>>16748889
That's because he only had creative control and didn't actually do a lot of the work
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dde051 No.16749617
>>16746308
Listen buddy, if your robo-waifu doesn't have a built in refrigeration unit so that she can dispense ice-cold gold top jersey milk from her beep boops on demand then she is trash.
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c36cd0 No.16749643
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f0a01c No.16749689
>>16744350
The term used for all the Androids in DB in original Japanese literally meant "artificial human" so it covered everything from robots to cyborgs to genetic experiments. There weren't many terms that sounded good in English.
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b871f1 No.16749796
>>16744350
>>16749689
It's important to note that the word android itself originally just meant artificial human. Specifically artificial male human. Its not "an-droid", it's "andr-oid": man-like. Just like gyn-oid is woman like. The term was not restricted to mean electro-mechanical human like it seems to have become now.
Actually neither was the term Robot either. The robots in RUR were something like Blade Runner type replicants as well.
Also anyone who hates on Roll is a dirty heretic.
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b437cd No.16750599
>>16749796
So, to hop back to the DBZ matter, it's 18 and 21 that are the odd ones out in that naming basis, because then they should by gynoids. In short, Gero couldn't find a good word in the English Dub, since 'replicant' doesn't really roll off the tongue.
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fd832c No.16750645
Kill all clankers! Robo war now!
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559946 No.16763409
Hey Mark, than this be a makeshift /clang/ until it comes back?
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c9ca6d No.16763414
>>16763409
Only if you only post girls 4 and below on this scale.
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4e2dd3 No.16763443
>>16749796
"Android" is a word meant to be used in a sex-neutral way like "mankind" is. "Gynoid" shows up much later (some say it was coined by a feminist trying to force a distinction) and even today only really shows up in fetish porn. Unfortunately, the common meaning of "android" is now "robot" so everything's all over the damn place.
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3abeeb No.16763452
>>16763443
>"Android" is a word meant to be used in a sex-neutral way like "mankind" is
No it's not. Andro- is a prefix that specifically means male. If it had been intended to mean artificial human instead of artificial male then they would have been called "hominoids".
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08eb77 No.16763453
tbh would grease that female zaku
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4e2dd3 No.16763479
>>16763452
Since "gynoid" never appeared until 1985, it's really hard to believe that every single use of "android" from the 1880s until then specifically referred to male artificial humans- the focus was on the artificial, not whether they had dicks or not. The incorrect use of Greek prefixes is nothing new, and "android" referred to artificial humans in general.
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29f350 No.16763608
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>>16763414
Weird, I'm a 10 on that scale.
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d4b52c No.16765422
>>16763414
>4 and below
You're tearing me apart, Anon.
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ccb536 No.16766444
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76a501 No.16766640
>>16766444
Those digits deserve something special.
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5cc4e1 No.16766876
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f77de2 No.16770967
>>16763452
>>16763479
>>16763443
> If it had been intended to mean artificial human instead of artificial male then they would have been called "hominoids".
You guys realize the word "humanoid" is in the dictionary?
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0e5a98 No.16770972
>>16766640
Why would you do this to poor anon? He probably had a bad day, and you just went and kicked him while he was down.
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