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>ass

>>16743041

>sweet ass

>only one pic

C'mon OP.

>>16743253

You should play Air Raider

It's even worse than in 4.1 as that class got nerfed to shit.

Limited range beacons, Sniper Limpets have limited as fuck range, you don't have a free vehicle from when you start and the bombings are nearly fuckimg useless.

They really raped the class good and soloing it is a pain I wouldn't put up with if I wasn't a fucking autist that loves the class and the gameplay loop as much as I do.

>>16743269

Even as ranger for first play through I find it's bullshit. AI companions get dropped and I'm surrounded by beta and red ants with teleporters I am not given a free moment to kill because I'm 0.3 seconds away from the next 6 million webs on my location or about to be tard rushed by the nearest red while a bunch of dying zooming drones block my path of escape on death. I could rely on the AI to run distraction, but they are dying too quick now and can't keep on with me.

>>16743269

Yeah but now you have self-reloading autocannons which are absolute murder and let you reload the big booms in no time

>>16743276

Play wing diver for ez mode, you can clear the whole game on hard solo the instant you get a stardust cannon

>>16743041

is that edf 5? still looks ps2 tier

Is there a mod to use EDF 4.1 character models with 5?

>>16743269

>Nerfed air raider

>He doesn't use Request gunships to kill everything

>3 weapons slots for MORE Gunships

>Can constantly call bombing runs because they're cheap as shit

>Sentry guns reload in the background while you call in MORE Gunships

>Nix mechs are stupid good. You rarely bring any other vehicle except caravans and naeglings

Granted, you should be sad that attillery is weak and have very specific uses and limpet guns are garbage

>>16743269

I think AR got as many buffs as he did nerfs.

>>16743276

gotta heal your buddies.

>>16743269

>>16743299

Strongly disagree, I fucking love Air Raider in 5.

Only time I ever find they are kinda weak is in the underground missions, but then that's kinda a given since the whole point of the Air Raider is air support.

Artillery does kinda suck because of how hard they are to aim, don't know why they didn't do what they did to the bombers for them or at least show the red circle where they are going to land.

>>16743293

Since 4.1 and 5 are pretty much the same game and engine if there's a way to get at the game files it'd be probably as easy as swapping the models.

Maybe see if you can find anything about the .cpk files which are where the game stores everything

>>16743294

>>16743299

-Gunships are good but are the only way to play.

-Turrets are fucking useless and reloaded on the background in 4.1 as well, they're just as slow to reload

-3 weapon slots doesn't matter if most weapons are useless outside gunships

-Bombing runs are fucking useless as they take too long to throw and respond

-To call a Nyx I still have to fucking use the shitty weapons

AR got nerfed to shit, I have 140 hours clocked on 4.1 and going towards 60 on 5.

At least the Depth Crawlers aren't completely fucking useless now, but still: The limpets are all garbage now, you no longer get a freebie vehicles and everything else but the gunships and the Velgata/Nyx is fucking worse.

>>16743309

>Only time I ever find they are kinda weak is in the underground missions

Nigger did you even play the game?

You get a free Depth Crawler just by killing 2 Red Ants, they're as easy to get as smoke grenade Air/Arty strikes but actually useful, better than any other classes weapon.

>play waifu diver

>doing fine on hard solo until i get into the 50s

>fucking greys with laser snipers

>good fucking lord these things do way more damage then they should

>can't see shit when they fire at me

>they snap right to me if i even look at them

>movement gets nerfed the second you get grazed

>can't even one shot them with that 6800 damage plasma cannon because of their fucking armor

What the fuck am I doing wrong with these fucking things? Are they suppose to be this fucking frustrating to fight?

>>16743311

>-Turrets are fucking useless and reloaded on the background in 4.1 as well,

Are you sure? I swear they didn't.

>-Bombing runs are fucking useless

Are you using phobos? Use phobos.

>>16743323

Get a sniper laser and delete their gun arm

>>16743324

>Are you sure

I'm sure, Z turrets also seem to do less damage.

>>16743324

>Are you using Phobos

Yes, and everything from Howitzers to Sattelite Guns, it's fucking useless and why even use them when I can just get close to enemies and AC130 them to shit with Miniguns and Limpets?

What pisses me off the most is that the freebie vehicle really made AR soloing viable on Hard, and what's the point of being AR without having a freebie vehicle at the beginning? It's literally part of your class and a great playstyle to keep calling them in and using them which get's ruined if you can barely survive before you get one in some missions.

I could understand that limit for Ranger, bug it makes no sense for AR.

>>16743324

>>16743338

Oh, another thing

Outside Sattelite and Guided Missiles everything every Air/Arty strike is useless on the Teleport Pylons unlike the Bug Holes in 4.1

Like I said, AR got reduced to support class when it was extremely viable to use alone while also having a plethora of playstyles.

Now you either get the Gunships or you're fucking dead and done.

>>16743338

I think you just suck as air raider. Going through missions on hardest right now with not too much difficulty aside from missions that were difficulty spikes anyways.

>>16743345

Air strikes are for huge swaths of enemies, not single targets like pylons.

>>16743348

>I think you just suck as air raider

>Get beacon Miniguns just right to kill Air Vehicles and use it as my main AA measure extremely effectively

>Generally only have to use one Nyx in a single mission if at all

>Check range on all my weapons and I'm always aware of which beacon has each range

No, I don't, the only difficulty spikes I've seen so far were the Ayys first encounter and the Shield Bearer filled beach in which Mutant Green attacks attack midway.

>Air strikes are for huge swaths of enemies, not single targets like pylons.

What a fucking genius

>>16743355

>Air Vehicles

>Each range

>Mutant Greens Attack Attack

God damn, I'm going to sleep

>last 3 missions of pack 2

jesus fucking christ I'm going to go nuts here

>>16743323

Get in close using buildings and double tap one of their legs to knock them down then just stay away from their front. An on level dragoon lance will generally one shot their armor easily, just don't fully charge again when you go for the second shot because their stun animation will end before you fully charge up. Additionally, enemy bodies/corpses can block enemy shots so a knocked down alien makes a decent impromptu cover. Stardust is also good at stunning them but it eats a ton of energy to actually kill one. I haven't had much success with anything else. Rapiers don't have the immediate stun lances have and anything that isn't short range doesn't kill/stun fast enough unless it's a great cannon.

>>16743276

Use the rapid fire assault rifle and bum rush the reds. They melt

I have been exclusively been running the m21 and the E29(?). Unless the mission has a bunch of those drones. Then I switch out the AR for the Slaughter shotty

I am also on 43, on my first playthrough, on Hard, solo

>>16743323

Mid to close range with minion buster fucks those guys up. The bullets stagger them and the detonating takes off the armor and shreds their insides.

>>16743253

Not really, solo has way nerfed HP it feels like. and Normal mode is insultingly easy compared to even hard mode.

>explosion proof suit makes you immune to roly-poly knockdowns

FUCKING INVINCIBLE

>>16743324

Don't forget Kamuy, it's often overlooked stat wise but the description doesn't mention that it's the fastest bomber to arrive. High-speed/Lionic missiles also arrive fast compared to the normal cruise missiles.

>>16743585

Its pretty much a requirement for Cave missions because getting knocked down a pit is pretty much a game over

>>16743644

I love creating a temporary defense line with the napalm bomber

>>16743253

that class has to be played last

>>16743309

>Only time I ever find they are kinda weak is in the underground missions

i feel fucking naked on those

>>16743041

Still haven't finished hard. Taking it slow, got to mission 73 as Fencer, 68 as Ranger and 30 as AirRaider

Some of the things bug me to no end. Most vehicles are trash. It would be nice if the only upgrade wasn't a requisition point cost reduction, but also durability, weapon ammo and damage.

Also, the limitations of mobility the fencer has irk me to no end.

If you want to go fast you HAVE to have a melee weapon and a basic ranged. Why exactly can't I dash with a gattling gun? Obviously there's room on the back for both thruster types, so the first thing I do is make dash/jump boost default movement for fencer, completely unliked to weaponry.

>Bring these people Bargas to punch ayys or serve as extra armor till they find a health box

>Ignore them

>>16743708

Was 2nd choice for me once I've learned how easy it is to use the air strikes and gunships

>>16743724

>Why exactly can't I dash with a gattling gun?

You can, you can't shoot while dashing but you cancel it by a jump boost which the minigun does provide. You only need one moveset to be dedicated to moving fast and you can have your other moveset dedicated to big guns when the horde of MONSTERS is too huge to handle up close.

>>16743269

Even the first 2 missions are torture as Air Raider.

Limpet guns are utter trash. None of the starting limpet guns can kill an ant with a full magazine.

It's a game or watching all of your allies fall thanrunnign away and slowly whittlingthe ants down.

Yeah, the aristrikes got stronger and more precise. The vehicles became trash in 99% of cases. No point in getting one.

>>16743730

You misunderstand, why must I have a melee weapon with a minigun/shotgun/light gun to dash?

I cannto dash with 2 miniguns. Dashing a secondary function of melee weapons despite it not actually being logically tied to a mele weapons, rather then thrusters on your back.

>>16743753

>Why do i have autism and can't read the description

There's one type of missile launcher that can dash. Just play wing diver if you want freedom.

>>16743753

There are few weapons that can also do the dash and aren’t melee. The arm hound series does it.

>>16743760

>>16743753

Also melee fucking rocks and is very versatile. The force ax and blade series are basically guns anyway with how much range they have.

>>16743763

But pitifull damage and slow RoF means they generally suck. Blasthole spear and Jackhamer remain the most consistent and useful.

Shields are useless, since mobiltiy is a far better defense against a swarm of spider or acid-spitters than a shield. If you have shield, you loose mobiltiy and speed. You're going to get sorounded and mobbed.

Yeah, defelction is nice, but when there are a dozen ants/bees/spiders attacking you from a dozen angles, it quickly becomes pointless.

Also, I fucking hate how the difficulty changes. On easy an acid ants spits one glob of acid. On Hard its' 4. On Inferno it's a dozen. It's just retarded and turns into a bullet hell, making your AI allies even more useless, the shield a even bigger joke and mobiltiy a even greater must have.

>>16743324

>Are you sure? I swear they didn't.

Take a look at the numbers. The damage of many vehilces and especailly turrets is pitifully weak. And the ammo capacity is laughably low.

I wish these game came with a mission editor. But won't happen, else they won't be able to sell mission packs

HARDEST room

room name: vee

>>16743768

>On easy an acid ants spits one glob of acid. On Hard its' 4. On Inferno it's a dozen.

Nice, I almost finished hard mode on my AR, and about 50 missions in each class, cant wait to beat hardest mode

>1st time meeting the Spriggans

>They trash talk me because I'm new

>Whatever, this should be okay as long as they don't bitch all the time

>Going sniper Ranger, disabling every French from so they don't retaliate

>Bitches are not helping, just jumping around me

>end up making sauteed frog all by myself

>Mission ends

<"You survived newbie! It's an honor to fight with the Spriggans"

Women.

>>16743895

All the AI is terrible.

Even ELITE units like the Grim Reapers are just your bog standard fencers with shields and blasthole spears that die like chumps.

frinedly AI also has weak-ass gear, and gimped range or just refuses to shoot untill the enemy is in their face for some reason (take a look at the snipers and guys with rocket launchers when you're fighting Erginus)

>>16743908

I wish for an AI overhaul mod so they don't die so fast when the monsters start gangbanging them. Even better if we could issue commands to squads who follow you, or have your own squad to fine-tune in solo mode.

>>16743908

I don't recall any elite teams being special at all, just more appearances compared to 4.1

>Omega team just drops off after Erginus then shows up in the last mission

>Elite wing diver team, Snow or Hail I think it was called, does the same

>>16743936

Grim Reapers always have blast spears and are actually pretty good at killing compared to other AI. Sarge and his squad all have unique voices and Sarge eventually upgrades to a laser gun. Nothing really special about Spriggans though. The leaders of Grim Reaper and Spriggan as well as all of Sarge's squad can't be permanently killed. If you manage to fully clear agro they'll get back up with about 30% health or so.

>>16743970

In this planet, there's no water for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

>>16743970

Your post made realize I didn't hear about journos or RetardEra trashing the game for whatever they think is racism. Yet.

>>16743970

Wonder why there isn't a mod that adds the bugs from starship troopers.

>grab a copy of edf 5

>Install it and have a blast

FF a week

>Both my brother in law's are here

>Try in vain to get them to play split screen with me

>Both would rather play pubg on their phones

Life is suffering for the man who loves couch coop

>playing as a fencer

>told to attack as you do your final dash

>only get one dash back rather than all four

Am I missing something?

>>16743908

Don't TRASH talk the Grim Reapers they are the most badass NPC ever

>>16744080

The other night, I caught 4 generations of the same family on their phone at the fucking dinner table, and when I asked why they don't just talk at the table, one of them showed me how they are all in a group chat.

In a parallel universe, the headlines read "man beat family to death with sack of potatoes"

>>16744131

>when I asked why they don't just talk at the table, one of them showed me how they are all in a group chat.

And I thought I was fucking anti-social. I always hate it when people are on their phones 24/7 in a social anything.

>watching movie with family

>mom on her phone

>brother on his phone

>I don't give a fuck about the movie yet I'm the only watching it

>>16744004

I can definitely picture them going

>Wtf a bug just came in and killed my instructor and I have no weapon fuck this racist sexist game

>>16744131

I'm glad my parents are old as shit and that I don't live in a Nordic/Asian/Anglo country

Nothing like that happens and if a kid does that he gets his phone removed out of his hands.

That's if he even has one in the first place, that shit is worse than letting kids watch TV all of the time.

I've been playing AR all of the time but how does the dash cancelling work with the Fencer now?

Apparently you don't even need the Needle dispenser to go fast.

Lost my EDF5 save today. Thanks Microdick.

Is there a way to use the starting costumes on the first 12 missions on later missions? Like the Fencers' hard hats? They look funny and I want to use them more than the default scary thick plate armors.

>>16744149

>how does the dash cancelling work with the Fencer now?

Fencers can no longer reset dashes with attack animations (which is what made javelin so broken in this regard in the 1st place). Instead, it only resets when you're able to walk again (like after finishing the dash animation or after landing from a jump. You can upgrade the number of dashes you can do in a row as well, which also mitigates the indirect nerf certain weapons like blasthole spear had suffered because of this.

However, that alone won't do it to achieve sanic, In order to do that, you need to dash AND jump but, unlike dashes, jumps will only reset after about 5 seconds without using it and being on the ground after that. Because of this, boost jumps are more important to upgrade than dashes, but upgrading both will also allow you to use dash jumps mid air, thus allowing you to achieve crazy heights at sanic speeds!

If you want to achieve even moar sanic, get a twin blasthole spear with high RoF, you'll know why when you start using it.

That said, I wish there was a visual indicator showing the how many dash/jumps are left.

>>16744204

On the class selection menu, press Y. This opens up a menu where you can select wherever you want the civilian or military outfits.

>>16744293

Replied to the wrong post.

>>16744155

>>16744293

>>16744297

Danke

How do you upgrade jumps/dashes?

Are they equipable?

>>16744293

>Fencers can no longer reset dashes with attack animations (which is what made javelin so broken in this regard in the 1st place)

What happened? Did the exploit got patched?

>On the class selection menu, press Y.

I don't play on gamepad, and don't remember if there was a prompt for outfit changes.

>>16744327

Thanks

That's neat, somewhat reminds me of the capsule system in Budokai games.

is it possible to share saves with a friend? I tried it list night but it said "save corrupted" and shit like that, i want him to have all the weapons i have farmed.

>>16744605

Apparently not. Some of my friends tried too.

>>16744640

what a shame.

>>16745670

Wait, the grape can honk?

>>16745730

Mouse wheel button or whatever key you want it set

>>16745730

Middle mouse honks horns in relevant vehicles. It also makes the Nix jump and use it's booster, and the Depth Crawler perform a dodge maneuver when moving left and right.

>>16744293

You can still use blastholes to cancel the ending animation of the dash. That saves you a little bit of time in between dashes and most importantly, lets you keep some momentum.

Dashes and jumps seem to only come back after you've used all of them respectively, so I found the most consistent way to move was to use all of my dashes, then all of my jumps, reuse dashes again upon landing, animation cancel, use all dashes, and then use all jumps. Once you have 3 dashes and 3 jumps, you have to be particular about how you move or you can get stuck occasionally.

naegling fucking sucks. Can anyone recommend me some fencer missile weapons to help me fulfill my long range bombardment fantasies?

>>16743970

>snap a pic of yourself in a pink wig

>attach that text

>apply for journo 'job'

>instant employment

>>16745946

heavy & light mortars, because missiles have a retarded hard cap to their range while mortars have map destroying range

>>16745946

high altitude launcher

Anyone else noticed frame drops when cpu / gpu usage wasn't even maxed? Wonder if me playing in borderless window + 3840 x 1080 (nvidia surround) has anything to do with it.

——–

I spent two weekend with my bro playing split screen through hard. He was a Ranger and I was an Air Raider. Shit's cash.

Maybe my friend just sucks, but I felt pretty OP as the Air Raider.

>Phobos

>Satelite Spritefall

>Various gunship strikes

>Grape or fast moving Nix

We even passed that DLC 1 cave aranea mission after like 10+ tries thanks mostly to me with my limpet buster bomb, flame thrower turrets, electromagnetic bunker m2, and depth crawler 3. (mostly the depth crawler)

>setup defensive parameter with bunker and frame throwers

>kill aranea and grind credits

>get in crawler and charge this dead end tunnel on the left

>clear the dead end tunnel set up defensive parameter in there again

>Kill whatever portal I could from the safety of that tunnel and charge with crawler when the waves thin out

It would've taken two less tries if we didn't get gimped by the surprise gold spiders and then gold ants spawns. Being in the open when they spawned was bad news.

It was really fun to struggle on a stage and then find a strategy and weapon loadout that works.

>>16743970

>The inclusion of women in combat roles in every class was a big step forward for the series

>Just think about it how it looks on the macro:militaristic culture visibly pretext on submission of individual self quasi fascist collective equals good but mutliple races and species working together for a greater common goal equals evil?I mean when the neonazis and skinheads talk about the inferiority of toher races isn't that the basis of their argument?That mixed societies or mudraces or whatever the hell they call that tend to be these destructive unclean hordes but pure cultures emphasizing sameness and conformity are superior?Look i'm not saying that the developers are racists or anything but they might be racists.

Cannot tell if sarcasm or serious.

>>16744074

Are you fucking kidding me?

Most vehicles are weak as fuck, their weaposn do shit for damage and have so little ammo they become worthless a minute after you call them in. You can't fucking kill an ant with a tanks main gun FFS, and you only got a few shot to work with.

Why would I, as an air raider, waste time in a vehicle when I can do more damage throwing air strikes and callign in gunships?

>>16743228

Thats a big pussy

>>16743311

>Bombing runs are fucking useless as they take too long to throw and respond

Holy shit, git gud.

>>16746127

>Anyone else noticed frame drops when cpu / gpu usage wasn't even maxed?

I get framedrops but my current CPU is a pentium G3258 so this is somehow expected, although those framedrops are less present on PC overall than back when I played on the OG PS4. One of the last missions with the deroys, V2 drones, ayys and ton of spiders in a destroyed town is definitively more playable on PC. I'm about to get an haswell i5 processor soon as a cheap upgrade dont have the budget yet to completely replace with a whole new build so this should clear most of the framerates and hiccup issues

>>16743908

You can tell the AI which target to shoot by highlighted it. Don't know how well it works for their retarded range limitations though.

>>16746926

Ranger if you want to shoot bugs and make them die, very straight forward.

Air Raider is maximum offense, carpet bomb everything in sight and you hate buildings with a passion.

Wing Diver is for sucking dick and flying.

Fencer is where you can go from punching, stabbing bugs and going fast or blowing up everything from afar.

>>16743974

>>16743996

>>16743998

>>16744682

>>16745977

>>16746791

summerfags the lot of you

>>16746317

>G-D

>>16746798

>Shitting on the Nyx

Get out

>>16746834

Prooceds to get raped by mutants

>>16747021

>Prooceds

wew

>>16747006

>summerfags the lot of you

Literally only the last post there is summerfaggotry.

>>16747020

He's mocking the people who unironically G_D. It's a meme you see here at least twice a day, how have you not noticed it?

>>16747021

>Prooceds

Personally I prefer to pooceed

>>16747031

literally the lot of them and you're no better neitherlook up on jewtube for movieblob's halo "review"

>>16747072

>spoiler

I don't want to and I don't know why you want me to.

>>16746926

Ranger: Starship Troopers movie

Fencer: Starship Troopers book

Wing Diver: Flying Fairy with magic spells and mana management

Air Raider: Chad Thundercock of the series

>>16747021

I said MOST vehicles, you faggot. Also, even the Nix only has a few variatns that are worth shit.

>>16746813

For you

>>16746998

>For what purpose was the jump boost added to the HAIL launcher? Just so Sandlot can have a laff at Fencers blowing themselves up?

So you can equip Arm Hound as well and go fast while you castrate deroys.

Don't shoot the missiles when falling down

>>16747232

>>16746932

I went with Wing Diver because I like fairies and sucking dick big flashy energy weapons and flying.

Completed the first 6 missions so far and loving the game.

Do you unlock armor to further customize the character later on?

>>16747552

>Do you unlock armor to further customize the character later on?

Sadly you can only customize the colors of the armor. At least you can switch between civilian and military outfits.

I wish they brought the 4.1 armors, I liked the knightly armor on fencer more.

>>16747564

>At least you can switch between civilian and military outfits.

How? I read a previous post saying to press Y on the character selection screen

>>16744293

But it doesn't work no matter where I do it and the UI doesn't say anything about it. Do I need to unlock civilian clothing option? And I'm assuming it's Y on the keyboard as well since it's used to customize colors for example.

>>16747591

Have you gotten far enough to see the military outfits? Cause they probably don't let you change until you've been enlisted in the story.

>>16747591

You might still need to clear a few more missions before you can use the military outfit.

>>16747611

>>16747606

Yeah that might be it, still escaping and on mission 7 or 8, just met those spiders for the first time.

>>16747632

yeah you don't get your suit until mission 14 or so. But once you do get it you get it for all characters.

>>16747637

Do try out the other classes once you progress a bit and unlock some stuff for them. There's a surprising amount of gameplay variety and you're not experiencing the full game if you just stick to one class.

>>16747713

>>16747632

Are the extra content packs uploaded somewhere? Couldn't find anything in the share thread.

The kikery of selling DLC for more than the already rather high game cost is nearing truck and train sims levels. Mission pack seems decently well priced at least.

>>16747713

>>16747714

Yeah I definitely will, probably testing Air Raider next.

>>16747718

>Are the extra content packs uploaded somewhere? Couldn't find anything in the share thread.

I made a voila which I could probably upload again some when but right now I have things to do. Or someone could post the image again.

>>16747727

Alright cool, would really appreciate it once you've got time to do so, unless someone else has it.

Is Tempest any good?

>>16747908

It's great on levels that spawn everything at the start and you get the drop on the enemy. It's an incredible nuke but takes forever to get there and is slow. So if there's a horde of ayys or queen just standing there, it'll demolish them.

How much armor is recommended for Inferno? 5000?

I assume it's less than in 4.1.

>>16747918

Depends. For fencer 5k is probably good, WD probably needs 2-1.5k, AR is probably fine with 2k, and ranger probably needs like 7k or 10k.

>>16747923

Thanks, less than I expected, makes me feel bad for rangers though.

I'll definitely have to try a few with just 150-250 sometime.

>>16748001

It's just cause ranger does best when he can get close and just face tank shit. Especially against armored ayys.

>>16747816

I'm probably being retarded but can't extract anything from that.

>>16748057

Rename it to .zip and then extract it.

>>16748057

Is it downloading as a 55 KB jpeg rather than a 1.4 MB jpeg?

>>16748069

That's how I thought it was done.

>>16748083

Oh shit, yeah that's it. Had to click on the filename and then save it.

Also is this literally 'on disk' DLC? There really is turbo kikery afoot. Will it screw over the cracked files it needs to replace?

>>16748101

>Also is this literally 'on disk' DLC?

yes, but it has to be cause otherwise people with DLC couldn't join your lobbies. There really is a shameless amount of DLC though.

>>16748101

>>16748083

>the 55kb meme again

It should work by simply renaming it but if you're anything like the last guy his pc literally forbade him from downloading the full image.

>spoiler

Shouldn't do, make a backup in case anyway.

>>16748176

Worked when I opened and saved it by clicking the user written filename as opposed to expanding or opening with the 8ch generated one.

>Shouldn't do, make a backup in case anyway.

Yeah it's not working and I had to reapply the crack. So you can actually pirate the DLC on a legit steam version this way?

Anyone got the DLC to work on their free version of the game?

>>16748203

I did the semi-smart thing by installing a pirated version with the dlc installed so I'd recommend going and doing that. if you hadn't already had it downloaded

>>16748279

I managed to find an unlocker for the pirated version.

>>16748033

it's more like ranger has extremely limited mobility options and lower range so he's going to take more hits compared to anyone else.

>>16748477

I mean he can always stay back and use snipers and missiles but that’s both boring and would take forever to complete missions. The gear that makes him have fast walk speed makes him great as the primo ground unit as you can just walk up and shotgun hoards of shit and then grab the heal items for you and the NPCs. Especially now that he has a lot of penetrating weapons.

>>16748494

yeah, like I said, he's going to take more hits regardless because he doesn't have any of the mobility, and equipping a speed booster replaces his vehicle so he can't use them to take shit like an AR can.

Even then trying to stay far away won't really work sometimes given how fast some of the enemies are on higher difficulties/later in the game.

>>16748120

I can join my friend's lobby who has all DLC while I have none.

>>16748503

Yes, that’s why it’s disc locked. If it wasn’t then your game wouldn’t have the data to show him using his weapons, and stuff would go wrong.

>>16748101

>>16748120

Imagine how cool it'd be if the only DLC would be Idol Decals, and shit like Grim Reaper shield being awarded for completion bonus for bragging rights.

Also fuck fighting Ergenius and the Spiky Boy (I dont remember mission name) solo as ranger, that fucker keeps making bodyslams so great it'd put half the WWE leauge to shame.

>>16748522

I found archelus worse than erginus. Erginus is easy enough to dodge/run away from, but archelus chases your ass down and the shits bombs all over the map.

>>16747611

I think you need to beat the game to unlock the option to change outfits freely. The option is in the Class Selection screen when you pick classes/weapons and it says "Y: Change Models" in the bottom right under your weapon choices. You can have your model follow the mission or pick civilian/soldier.

So modded outfits when?

Also I have a room up. Get in here you fucks.

Name: Bug War

Mission 71 on Hard.

No pass.

>>16749246

I'll join in a minute

>>16749246

Pirate or legit?

>>16749464

legit

>>16749475

Strangely I don't see it in the lobby. Do different rooms show up for different regions?

>>16749482

You have to choose search for room by name, and enter it exactly as typed in the post. Also we're full right now.

>>16749246

Closed the room. I'll put it back up in 20-30 minutes, if someone else makes a new one I'll just join that.

>>16749608

room open?

>>16749647

It is now

>>16744327

>It's not on a gamepad, Y is actually the key to change that.

Checked it again and I found no prompts for that. Progressed to mission 17 already.

Maybe it's because I haven't completed the game yet?

>>16746127

>Anyone else noticed frame drops when cpu / gpu usage wasn't even maxed?

It never even maxed usage on either CPU or GPU. It's running smoothly on my 10 year old oven however.

>>16747923

How many hours do one need to spend to get to that armor levels? I've been playing for 20 hours and barely reach 400 for any class.

>>16748505

This is correct, but they sort of messed up with the mission packs. They also have weapons in them so it's on-disk but so are the mission files for what I assume is a lazy reason.

>>16749781

>How many hours do one need to spend to get to that armor levels? I've been playing for 20 hours and barely reach 400 for any class.

In most cases it's either AFK farming with or without a controller or repeating some missions over and over such as 67.

>>16749781

There is clearing the dlc mission packs as an alternative for the outfit change. Are you playing solo or online?

>>16747006

Hey retard I was agreeing with him about the state of journos and how easily that shitmouth would get him jobbed up these days. Learn to fucking read.

>>16747816

I have a legit steam version. Should I bother with this or will it fuck my game/save up?

Also, is the DLC even worth it? All I saw is shitty skins

>>16749960

It has nothing to do with journos ,it's a 10 years old pasta you actually took the time and responded to newfag.

>>16747072

>>16749801

>In most cases it's either AFK farming with or without a controller or repeating some missions over and over such as 67.

Right, let's say you're playing a ranger at hard mode, how long does it take to clear that mission while getting the ideal amount of armor crates?

>>16749826

Solo and pirate. Don't think I'll clear those anytime soon. How many missions are there in each weapon packs?

>>16750164

For that specific mission, it can be done under 5 or even 3 minutes; you leave one enemy alive while collecting the drops and then blow yourself up to restart, all on easy difficulty.

There are other armor farming missions with varying degrees of effectiveness/requirements.

>>16749970

I did it and my game works just fine and I can play with other anons who bought the game legit and pirated the DLC.

Its completely safe but the missions get bullshittingly hard though.

>>16750387

It includes the mission packs, then? Can you also use the weapons rewarded from said mission packs? I can't manipulate the file posted here as renaming it does not change the extension.

>>16750515

Someone should make it so the image is just a cap of this post.

>Get the big core

>yay actual energy storage

>can't fly, move fast or have any mobility whatsoever

I hate this game

>>16751450

Stop playing on normal, faggot. You'll get Jet Cores with 400+ energy on hard long before the end of the game.

>>16751504

>Stop playing on normal, faggot.

>been playing on hard since mission 20

>on mission 72

???

>>16751564

https://volafile.org/r/zmnmgr1r

I don't know how and why you people are unable to do this but here's the voila. There's more but you can figure out the rest.

>>16751577

I certainly don't deserve help like this, and I thank you for it

>>16751582

EDF soldiers must help each other out anon.

Were always glad to help!

>>16751582

You'll burn in hell for your negligence.

>go to do that annoying that some faggots do here where you put the :'> thing in but I'm too retarded to remember it

I want to fucking DIE

>>16751583

It's a great game it just gets really tedious honestly.

>>16751594

Main reason I don't use it, everytime I try one of the retarded bitch AI will walk in front of me. Or a stupid fucking ant.

>>16750374

>all on easy difficulty.

Does that mean all armor crates increase the characters' armor at the same rate regardless of difficulty setting? I've been only playing on Hard now, didn't bother playing on other difficulties.

>>16751711

Yes. It was the same in 4 too. I think the conversions are 1 armor crate = .65 for rangers and air raiders .5 for wing divers and .8 for fencers regardless of difficulty. I might be a little off with the exact numbers.

>>16751719

>Yes. It was the same in 4 too

That explains it. Thanks.

>qt artillery and delivery girl is now just a support girl that turns into a depressed girl

Im sad about this, but at least the spritefire girl is fun.

Best loadout for Mission 83? these fucking bugs and their goddamn huge tunnels. I can't make choke points here.

>>16752234

"And you, you are storm 1"

Is there a soundtrack for EDF 5

Anyone got a few protips for Wing Diver loadouts? Recently started playing on hard and farming mission 38 (big field one) to get some decent hard tier gear so I can easier advance past 40.

TL;DR:

Feel free to ignore the wall of text and throw some suggestions my way.

It's just my limited experience with some of the gear so you can correct or affirm my take on them.

>Plasma Cannons

Really enjoy these, especially the burst ones.

>Closed Laser

Was solid at the start but even its upgrades became kind of shit that just tickles enemies whilst not dealing AoE damage.

>Monster

Not very long range or super damaging to compensate for its massive energy cost.

>Bows

Similar to Closed Laser they were stronger at the start but their lack of dps makes them feel useless a bit later on

>Dragoon Lance

These are a lot of fun but their single target and close range nature makes them not really shine in any mission with massive swarms.

>Stardust

Seen people mention this and it's pretty decent but currently it rapes my energy too much, need a better core.

>Mag/destroyer Blaster

Pretty solid medium ranged weapons, no AoE and because stuff like Dragoon Lance is stronger vs single target enemies makes me not use them all that much.

>Crossbow

Eh, I'd rather use a Mag Blaster.

>Bolt Shooter

Complete trash. Lower range than Plasma Cannons, lower damage, massive reload time, no AoE.

>Pulse Machine Guns

Good AoE weapons at the start but now I'd rather use Plasma Cannons for AoE and mag/destroyer blaster for medium ranged spamming.

>Homing Weapons

Seem sort of bad, cost a lot of energy for their dps, those with lower homing capabilities struggle with flying creatures and generally aiming manually isn't a big issue anyway

>Grenades

They're okay but it means my other weapon needs to not be an explosive and they're just a bit awkward with their CD. I'd rather use a Plasma Cannon.

>Special weapons

These can be really good but it's hard to choose a good well rounded weapon to complement them. Usually go for Plasma Burst Cannons.

<Cores

I've mostly used the Rush and Turbo cores depending on which has more upgrades/higher lvl. Currently only have V2's.

>>16753735

I've used Spark Vines and that's got me through up to level 70. Specials are good but only in specific situations. Homing weapons are fucking useless from what I've seen, they eat up a shit ton of energy and do no damage. Use a Mag/destroyer blaster on big enemies like pepe's or ayy's and if you notice a big crowd then use the spark vine. Eats right through them, eventually you'll get better spark vines and you'll just be pissing over ants and little spiders. But use the Blaster for big enemies and you'll be good. Though most of the game is finding what works for you so just try out all the cool sounding weapons and go from there. That's what I did at least.

>>16753760

It's easy to keep using my favorite weapons and not reconsider ones I might have had a bad experience with at first so it's nice to hear what other people like using.

I've been unlucky with getting new Spark Vines but it seemed pretty good a while back, will give it another try when I find an upgrade from V6.

Trying to clear mission 40 on hard and it's a pain, need good AoE to deal with massive amount of enemies so using a Plasma Burst Cannon 3, but it's not enough so I went with a special (tried both "a Diffuser" and "Gleipnir ß") though that means I'm fucked if grabbed by ants and I still can't clear everything fast enough.

This setup is also kind of bad against flying saucers, might try Mag Blaster + Plasma Burst.

>>16753808

if you find a mission just lower the difficulty, finish it and then continue. Half the time I'll play one mission and get pissed off that it's too hard then the next mission is piss easy. Unless you want to finish it all on hard first time round.

Spark Vine Y6 will be good but later on you'll get a YA6. Basically increases the damage by a lot and increases the range very nicely.

>>16753828

I managed to finish it by ignoring the starting team mates and just kiting the enemies around. Yeah mission difficulty seems to jump up and down a lot but I want to try doing them on hard since normal got a bit boring.

>>16753989

Yeah I'm playing solo, found a Spark Foil Y6 and really enjoying it. Super energy efficient and good for both single target and AoE. Tried using a Spine Blaster for a bit but its dps just felt lacking.

Wasn't sure if Dragoon Lance could penetrate or not, guess I just need to line up enemies a bit better. Love using it to just fly in and 1-shot frogs in the head with.

>I would also recommend trying a long range weapon but I don't think there are any good ones at those levels

Which ones should I keep an eye out for?

>>16754025

>Wasn't sure if Dragoon Lance could penetrate or not

If a weapon has [PT] then it's a penetration type.

>>16754025

Weapons that can penetrate have [PT] in front of the damage number on the Equipment screen.

For long range I think it takes a while before you have better choices, the Bolt Shooters are the first to have some nicer ones but still probably not worth it.

There is also the Raijin which may help beat certain missions but if you are solo swarms may kill you easily.

>>16754047

>>16754052

>[PT] means it penetrates

Oh that's good to know. I just recently tried a Bolt Shooter 2, still disappointing. Damage isn't high enough, reload is too long, if I reload twice in a row I overheat.

On a different note I just found a Jet Core and it's definitely my new favorite type, holy fuck that dash range is great.

>>16754075

The dash on the jet core is great but I found the insane amount of energy for flying to be a bit much personally.

>>16753735

Depending on the mission I stick with a rapier and the heavy plasma cannon.

>>16753925

Rangers shotguns alone make him worth playing honestly.

>>16753735

A lot of this experience is based on playing with a team of 3+.

>energy weapons

The crossbows are fantastic in underground tunnels. Bows have decent dps and they bounce between targets. I didn't really bother with bolt guns very much.

>dragoon lance

Anti-alien/frog weapon. Also it pierces. Yesterday, I had fun using it to pierce through a teleport ship to kill red drones and enemies below me.

>stardust

Useful against air enemies or large targets like deroys and bosses.

>Kinetic weapons

Backup weapons for when you want to hit emergency cooldown.

>homing weapon

Fantastic against bee swarms. Also very helpful in a team to shoot down or pin flying enemies.

>pulse guns

Besides stardust, they're basically for suppressing and aoeing a crowd of enemies. Also have to be careful with them since they are technically explosive with no knockback so you can easily kill yourself.

>grenades(blink x)

They don't cost any energy so they're very useful if you are stalling above the enemy. I use them when I intend to be bait for air raiders. Most of them also do more damage per shot than plasma cannons. They're good as backup to single target weapons.

>special weapons

I only use these in very special circumstances. Gleipnir is good for disrupting drone swarms and anti air/ground is good in tunnels or against giant monsters. Heaven's gate is basically only really good for farming aliens.

>long range weapons

All trash except raijin. Even raijin is basically only useful against red drones or the final boss. I'd rather use great cannon against frog or aliens because of the aoe.

>cores

Big cores kill your movement ability but they're extremely strong with homing weapons. Also used them with raijin weapons and stardust with a team. Sky high core is great with blink grenades for baiting the enemy. Otherwise, I generally just used the highest level core I could for better regen.

I typically always bring a power lance or dragoon lance depending on the enemies I'm going to face and something else situationally. Rapier or phalanx for blowing up anchors, plasma cannons for hordes, homing for flying swarms, etc.

I'm getting a bit bored with the game at this point, enemies become increasingly bullet spongy and all new weapons I get are disgustingly energy inefficient costing me somewhere between 80-150% of my total energy to charge. I could switch to a Loading Core for an extra 90 energy but it has shit flight consumption and the same charge per/s. And even then I couldn't charge the Pulse Machine Gun M2 fully until I get a bunch of cost reduction upgrades for it.

I feel like I have nothing to easily deal with those tri-pod fucks, they're not very hard to kill but these missions take forever to finish. Closed Laser seems like a decent option, but then it costs 169 energy to charge, out of my 184. Plasma weapons are too slow to somewhat reliably hit the legs and the Mag Blaster B1 deals shit dps.

>>16754586

Use homing weapons, probably mirage, from range to break all the guns on their legs first then fly in and kill them with a lance. Plasma cannons with maxed shot speed are also an option. Just aim at the leg that just moved so you don't miss.

Pulse weapons all have huge energy costs because they also have huge magazine sizes so you shoot for a very long time with a full charge. Even at high levels, a similar level pulse weapon will drain all your energy for a full charge. They're just not very well designed for how wing diver plays now. If they didn't lose charge from evading they would be ok.

Mag blasters, and other kinetic weapons, all have the shitty gimmick of losing damage as their current ammo count drops so you have to reload them at 70-60% to keep the damage up.

>>16754640

Currently using Mirage 5 Way B for the legs and then switching to Plasma Burst Cannon 3 for the body. They're still extremely fucking damage spongy and the fights are just boring.

>>16754586

Are you only playing WD? If so I implore you to try another class. I honestly think she’s the worst one in 5.

>>16754672

I tried Air Raider for a few missions but hated how slow he was coupled with shit damage, even the mech vehicle with grenades did worse damage than Wing Diver despite being slow as fuck.

Might try Fencer, they look pretty fun.

>>16754697

Fencer is basically better than wing diver in all respects. Equal or greater mobility, tons of utility weapons, good damage with no cost to his movement, and almost double the armor growth. Also AR has good damage, what were you using with him?

>>16754711

Limpet Sniper, Flame Turrets and mech with grenades, should have probably gone for some higher dps stuff than sniper.

>>16754723

Limpets suck, you only ever need them in caves and even then not really. Kinda sale with turrets. Try out his gunship supports and satellites and you’ll see shit getting blown away. Also sadly AR’s vehicles got hit with the nerf stick this time around, or at least most of them. Barga and proteus are still pretty good, and some of the tanks and armored vehicles have some good situational use.

>>16754446

>I had fun using it to pierce through a teleport ship to kill red drones and enemies below me.

So a dragoon lance could theoretically cause damage to a teleport ship but not a nuke?

>>16754723

>Limpet Sniper

NO ANON STOP, no wonder you're getting pissed off with those shitty weapons. Swap out the mech for a spider tank or replace the sniper with some sort of autocannon or big boom laser sight cannon.

>>16754734

>So a dragoon lance could theoretically cause damage to a teleport ship but not a nuke?

Ackshyually, before they developed the hooligans the only way EDF in 5 destroyed the ships without ground units were nukes.

>>16754733

>>16754734

Went for a mission with Fencer and found it pretty fun, what's a good sub 51 mission to farm for some gear?

Had a Jackhammer M2 and enjoyed that, coupled it with a Deflection Shield. Also used a FHD2 Heavy Mortar with shield as backup, not amazing but served as a ranged backup.

When it says "To use this weapon effectively, the back of your powered exeskeleton must be equipped with a X", does it mean that literally and it's just ideal but I'm able to use it even without that support equipment?

>>16754739

It's really beyond me why they couldn't just send a scouting unit to take pictures of all angles and then think

"boy that MASSIVE GLOWING HOLE AT THE BOTTOM THAT RESEMBLES A VERY OBVIOUS WEAKNESS MIGHT BE A WEAKNESS"

>>16754784

Fencer is fun but I'd recommend some low level missions first to get the hang of it.

>does it mean that literally and it's just ideal but I'm able to use it even without that support equipment?

I believe so, not sure but I think the support equipment adds to it.

Equip a blasthole spear with an nc101/2/3/whatever number it is cannon.

>>16754784

No anon it means that by equipping that weapon, you gain access to that function. It’s how fencer moves so fast. You usually want to equip an auto cannon in one hand a melee weapon in the other, then dash and before the dash is over you boost jump and it’ll you fling you halfway across the map. And the you stack boost and dashes in your equipment to be able to do that again mid air multiple times. And you eventually get a multi charger so you can both have good mobility and a free slot for stuff like muzzle stabilizers, shield enhancers, or exoskeletons.

>>16754821

I never played as air raider even ONCE during my time with EDF4.1/5

Am i really missing out?

>>16754831

YES

>>16754831

anon, you are missing out

>>16754655

Use a dragoon lance or power lance instead. Plasma cannons don't do enough damage for deroy's main body and there's no reason you can't get close after destroying their legs.

>>16754734

>So a dragoon lance could theoretically cause damage to a teleport ship but not a nuke?

Theoretically maybe but I tried it in that same mission and it didn't seem to work. Probably it counts piercing the hull as a hit and doesn't do further damage even if it hits the weakpoint.

>>16754831

You're missing out on the best EDF! moments. Nothing quite like calling in a bombing run to wipe out an entire wave of bugs or using a satellite beam to dismember an alien or a squad of them from across the map. Also basically tactical nukes.

Jesus christ, has anyone tried the Nix Lancer yet?

>Two short range lasers that have fuckloads of ammo that melts everything, even gold armored ayys

>Two gauss cannons with low ammo but a high rate of fire, dumping all of them on the underside of the outpost will deal around 180k damage in around 8 seconds

>>16743269

Air Raider is the best at a ton things, but he is the worst in a few key areas solo survivability, killing spread out weak targets, and taking out teleport ships that make him a bad choice for solo play. His weaknesses can be partially offset by getting in a good vehicle or almost entirely fixed by joining a group. Under conditions where the air raider can stay alive he will easily be the most contributing member of the group though. I can't even imagine going through a few of the levels in the mission packs on inferno without an air raider in party.

When the air raider chooses to focus on damage he hits really hard and from basically anywhere on the map. Additionally, the air raider has good options on what type of damage he is doing. He can choose more focused damage by grabbing gunships and satellites or take area damage with artillery and airstrikes. He also gets to choose whether he wants to use credits or time for his reload to further optimize his damage to the mission. This play style feels really good when you can call in strikes at all the right locations to get them to feed each other credits and are constantly attacking. It feels even better once you get comfortable enough to use a vehicle while the attacks are happening to add in even more firepower and some survivability. You can even bring a barga and just sit in it air striking your feet if your team isn't doing a good job of keeping enemies off of you.

Air raiders also have a very good support game. Wing divers, fencers, and rangers all boost their mobility to increase their survivability, but air raiders use bunkers to shield damage, guard fields to reduce damage, vehicles to increase health, and turrets to stop enemies from shooting in the first place. The difference between air raiders and everyone else is that the air raider is increasing everyone's survival whereas all the other classes are only increasing their own chances. Additionally the air raider can increase all friendly damage by 50% to everyone so you're probably passively contributing the most damage in party at the cost of a single weapon slot and provide some bufffs for lock on weapons I've never actually tried these in an organised way. Vehicles combo very well with all of the support style equipment. If you choose to go with something like a caliban support or depth crawler you can load all your bunkers, guard/offense fields, and turrets on top to make a mobile fortress. If you choose to go with a barga or nix you can use the guard/power assist guns to make a much tougher version that can mow enemies down and take twice as much damage. The flame turrets in particular are really good at stagger locking enemies, and they even pierce and fire very quickly. Bunkers alone are one of the best pieces of gear in the game I regret not touching them until after I completed the main missions, but when paired with a set of flame turrets your party is set no matter what enemies you fight. An air raider in a caverns mission is just forced into a support role rather than a damage role. The main reason that the gameplay feels so much slower is that damage air raiders just contribute too much on the surface.

>>16754831

Yeah. In 4.1 they're much better in co-op than solo, and in 5, I'm sure one could solo the game on hard with them (although it'd probably require some grinding to do so).

The main change that makes AR so good in 5 is he gets 3 weapon slots + a vehicle, and some of his "Request" weapons work like most traditional weapons with several shots and a static reload time, as opposed to the credit system, which does apply to his harder-hitting weapons like satellite weapons and missiles. Not only that, but his gunships reload independently regardless of which weapon he's currently using, so you can rain down damage with something else until your other weapon goes back online.

He's still the least mobile of the cast though, and as you don't start with a free vehicle like in 4, you're a sitting duck at the start of some missions.

He's still got his limpets, turrets, AoE buffs, and a few other specialized weapons, all of which have their uses. For example, the expolding roomba things can blow off armored aliens' legs, it's extremely good against them. It even can lock on through walls, which is vital. Oh, and the buffing equipment can be placed on vehicles as well, so they see a good amount of use too.

Lastly, the vehicles are fucking great. They're good for all kinds of situations. The Naegling's got good anti-air, tanks can blow heads off and clear groups, helicopters, while hard to fly, are key to easily destroying some pylons in certain missions and can deal decent damage to grounded opponents, and Nix and the Crawlers are the best all-around damage dealers.

>>16754948

>taking out teleport ships

those are a pain to kill

>I've never actually tried these in an organised way

pretty good shit when you got a fencer shooting missiles

>>16755336

>How the fuck does he even work in caves without any air support?

YES

>>16754734

Gotta disagree, limpet sniper specifically is one of the air raider's reliable weapons that he can take to any mission and not worry. Even more than request 150mms which can't track fast targets like the red drones.

When I went into missions blind I'd usually take Limpet Sniper/Spritefall/Kamuy bomber for above ground missions.

room up "the left cant meme"

hard mode on mission 110 I could use some help

Is it possible to punch god in the dick with the barga or is the right exclusive to just fencers? Been doing it a few times now and never can tell if I'm hurting him.

>>16756629

Its possible but very hard because god cant be knockbacked and he constantly moves away from your barga just to do his fancy flaming kick

>>16754989

>Lastly, the vehicles are fucking great.

They are mostly shit. Low ammo, shit for damage, shit durability. Spiders and ants wreck vehicles like crazy. On higher difficulties it's even worse, due to more threads/acid.

The great Titan with it's requiem cannon is a joke. Tanks in general had piss-poor durabiltiy and damage values. My ranger does more damage with his sniper rifle than a railgun.

Is there an actual logical reason as to why a web from a spider can damage you and destroy vehicles? I get why it happens in game terms but it seems illogical, shouldn't spiders have other methods of attacks rather than a web?

>>16756978

The webs have a strong acid in them. Not even bullshitting, that's the official explanation.

>>16757002

That makes a lot more sense than

>web hurty :( :(.

I was expecting just bullshit logic because there's nothing more annoying than

>spawn in big mech

>dies instantly because web

>>16756841

Requiem cannon really does have shit damage for no reason. A blacker does similar damage but with a higher rate of fire and more ammo, in addition to being cheaper.

so, anyone lewd the bugs yet?

>>16757007

If you want to see where it's actually mentioned, I believe it's the mission where they introduce them as beta types.

>>16756841

>The great Titan with it's requiem cannon is a joke. Tanks in general had piss-poor durabiltiy and damage values. My ranger does more damage with his sniper rifle than a railgun.

>Playing Air Raider with friends

>Hard

>The mission where you fight all of the aliens in the open field before the Epsilon is revealed

>Bring the Titan

>Everyone gets excited

>Hop in

>Two friends get in turrets

>Direct hit on an alien's torso blows off his arms but leaves him standing

>Friends in turrets get out because their weapons do more damage

>Never again bring a vehicle that has gunner seats for the entirety of the campaign

The mechs aren't OP, everything else just sucks ass. Anything that is too big to be realistically deployed in more than half of the missions should probably do at least as much damage as unupgraded guns from other classes at a given level. You should NEVER be able to call down a football-field sized tank during a mission equal-leveled to your vehicle and think:

>Hmm, the tank is nice and all, but I think I'll get out and do significantly more damage with more accuracy by using strikes.

I'd say that vehicles like that are at least useful as big pools of hit points if it weren't for the fact that two spiders can get behind your tank and destroy it within 15 seconds.

>>16757138

>If you want to see where it's actually mentioned, I believe it's the mission where they introduce them as beta types

Well, I may or may not be playing this while listening to other shit so I never actually hear dialogue.

>vehicles

I seriously don't understand why they're under powered. They're massive fucking mechs but a ranger with a rocket launcher can do more damage than me with a lower level weapon.

>>16757121

>so, anyone lewd the bugs yet?

How?

>>16757138

I mean the titan was shit even in 4.1. The only multi person vehicle worth it in my experience is the proteus, that thing can actually kick out a ton of damage and is durable enough to take a few potshots.

>>16757234

does he draw?

>>16757171

Any hole's a goal

>>16757274

The proteus is still god tier with the primary drawback of having four seats

>>16757234

>spoiler

When I finish fapping to lolis I always think "that was weird" but then I see shit like that and wonder why the fuck I would ever consider my weird or degenerate when you have people like that.

>>16757289

>Any hole's a goal

yeah, bugs? I've had a fap to all sorts of weird shit, the occasional anthromorphic moth included but never anything like bugs. I also feel like you don't want them anthromorphised.

>>16755895

If anyone from here joined yesterday, thanks for sticking through to the end. NOW FOR INFERNO

>>16757340

>FURRY

>>16757340

>Slushy

Oh man, you know that guy? I've seen him around for ages. Hasn't improved his art a bit.

>>16757336

Yeah anthro would be much better actually.

>>16757339

>now for inferno

Ooh boy post a room and I’ll come running

>>16757357

EDF isn’t known for its great ports, the most you can really fuck with is resolution and anti-aliasing.

>>16757353

I know of him and his art, but not him personally. Our tastes differ too much anyway.

>>16757368

I playued the first 2 missions last night with my buddy plus the two randoms and I survived. I know how to dodge as fencer so no matter how strong they are, the acid might as well be water if it can't hit

>>16757353

>Yeah anthro would be much better actually.

Anthro is most welcome in my books pretty much 99% of the time.

>depth crawler

>truly a jack of all trades vehicle

>machine gun

>sniper

>shotgun

More like jack of trash, you get like two shots for fuck sake. Who designed these to be so boringly weak?

>>16757454

Depth Crawler's greatest advantage is being able to dodge and crawl up walls, not DPS, go get a Nix if you want a big loadout

Speaking of depth crawler, why would they not fix the camera on it? It's impossible to aim at anything unless you're on flat level ground.

>>16757368

>EDF isn’t known for its great ports

What? Sure, the initial performance might not be great, but as of the ports they are pretty much all good or better. The only issue that is known to me is the bike handling in 4, because there is no pressure sensitivity when you press a directional button (though it might still be there if you play on a controller). For example, do you think that EDF2P would even be a thing if the port wasn't competent?

>>16757484

My issue with the big mechs are that the controls are fucking trash on a keyboard and mouse. The spider tank is cool, just wish it was more like one of those big spider tanks from red faction Armageddon that'd be neat. Probably too overpowered though.

>>16757507

>a pebble is on the ground

>walk over it

>camera zooms into the sun and you change directions five times in less than a second

>>16757520

I mean they work fine, but they still chug when things get hairy and don't have the myriad of on/off switches that most PC games have. I'm not really complaining though, like it works just fine, just not fine if you're trying to finagle every small detail to make it more toaster friendly like that other anon was.

>>16757531

It really depends. The nixes with shitty turn/walk speed are just garbage and unusable, In regards to ammo, most tanks, helicopters, and bikes give you more than enough to be able to kill enough shit with them to just request another. But most nixes you'll need to call in a few strikes or have a co-op partner killing stuff in order to get enough credits to request another.

>>16757395

True patricians are into being ntred by bugs as they invade earth

>>16756678

Good to know, can at least let those dying too quick from those meteors to board barga and get a hit or two.

>>16757507

I will admit this is the only reason I don't play with vehicles more often, I have no idea why they think a dynamic camera is fun to deal with or realistic given the setting. Probably has something to do with the engine and the camera, it feels like nothing but raw input when its not being smoothed excessively to emulate turning speed. Game is really fun, but the controls are unacceptable for a game that has had PC ports for god knows how long now, and I'm assuming it gathers a fair bit of sales. I know they don't run on a big budget or anything, but this is probably their biggest dealbeaker besides a decent tutorial and increased walking speed overall

>>16758727

Yet when I try to play with a Nix it's just waiting ten minutes to turn slightly. Guess it is just low level shit then.

>>16758064

because cute girls are the best

>>16758727

It's more about the fact that I'll rather take a Nix variant than a specialized veichle for a job, for example I haven't gotten a better Naegling than XM BUT I've gotten fucking Nix Missile Gun.

>try to move

>can't

Ah yes, the classic red piss mist from queen ants that make you roll on the spot. I too love this puzzling aspect of insectology.

>>16759045

Yeah, hit stun is a bitch. Always bring armor that reduces or nullifies it if you’re playing g ranger and fighting either ayys or queens.

>>16759054

I'm playing as an air raider right now. I equipped some better weapons and am doing better now but fuck hit stun.

FUCK HIT STUN

>>16759057

I’d recommend using helis or caravans to try and distance yourself.

>>16759062

I was trying to spawn in a mech and run away but red piss mist is an extremely destructive liquid.

>>16746127

Try turning off G-Sync in nVidia settings. It made my game unplayable with stutter until I disabled it, and boom, smooth as butter.

>>16758952

Yeah, the first few versions you get are slow, but they can still reliably kite bugs in open areas. Plus, the one with the missile pod is really helpful over the Naegling when you need an extra gun.

>>16759011

Yeah, it's sometimes for the best. I think you can get the Naegling D1 if you play on hard, as it's much better than the XM.

>>16759066

If you have a vehicle with two flamethrowers, jump in and roast it. It works pretty well.

>>16759226

When I was hyping myself up for this game I assumed all weapon types would be viable since they have the potential to level up.

>>16759615

Kind of, a lot of missions are easier when you pick the right tool for the job, as an example, there's no weapon for the Air Raider that I never found a use for. One of my weapon slots always had the single-strike Spritefall β2, which carried me through most of the game

Also, if you play in a group, there's also a lot of extra room to experiment.

>>16759850

How do you get enough points to summon the barga on the final boss?

>>16761394

He shits out a ton of ayys.

>>16761394

The waves of ayys each stage is enough for one (in hard anyway, not sure in lower difficulties), having barga maxed for lower point requirement also helps