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>>16742523

>Whic house did you join?

Blue Lions

>Who are you s-supporting?

No one yet,probably Flyn and her mad dance skills

>Who are you pairing up?

I don't really use gambits much because they are fucking broken,they should cost as much as holly weapons to replenish,so i let the supports flow

>Who are you absolutely killing?

Edgelard,she's a fucking autistic womanlet

>Are you having fun?

The game is fun

I'm doing the second mission after time-skip,i'll probably finish the game by friday,don't think i will do my next playthrough righ now,have been playing too much FE lately besides Edelgard and her autistic quest oh i'm playing on hard/casual

All of those house names sound like shit

The game's visuals in promo material look nice

Not playing it because I don't have a Switch yet, but if its better than Echoes I'd be surprised; beating Awakening or Fates is not an accomplishment whatsoever

Didn't they make the option for every character to have romantic relations with you, therefore making every character homosexual/bisexual?

And doesn't it still have all the cancerous mobage elements and "interaction" bullshit ?

I have massive doubts about this game and this thread doesn't say anything about anything besides

>game is totally better than expected gais

Have you never played an FE game before? Compare it to fucking something, don't be a vague faggot

>>16742611

You are clearly misinformed so you don't really care about the game to begin with,go be autistic somewhere else to confirm your bias

How much yuri shit is forced on me and can I choose to make everyone straight? If it’s going to put focus on dating I’d like it if I can make sure it’s at least vanilla.

And here come the shill threads.

>unmolested by (((localizers)))

Is it really though?

Echoes is better than awakening and fates. Fight me.

>>16742738

People talking about a recently released game? The only possible reason anyone could be doing that is as part of a marketing campaign.

>>16742826

Why the fuck would anyone with a brain fight an opinion like that?

>>16742822

maybe because of the mediocre art or the fact most cut-scenes look like something out of berserk 2016

>>16742819

>the female option has more lesbian romance options that the straight male option

Aaaand into the degenerate trash it goes.

Oy vey, have you bought the latest casualized gay piece of shit yet, fellow anon?

>>16742822

They hired some fujoshit artist for some reason and it looks like she made her characters by moving hairstyles around some 'build your own anime' program.

No idea why though considering the game isn't trying to appeal to fujoshits.

>>16742782

>Is it really though?

Yes. Treehouse did not localize it. NoE did. In faact, Cuck Merigos and his cohorts haven't seemingly been allowed to touch another game since Fates. Man what does it say about TD when everyone who participated seems convinced it's impossible they made a difference?

>>16742819

>The "My Castle" shit in Fates where you place buildings and plants and wait for daily shit (or after every map, I forget but there's little difference to me) to pick up items and plants and other complete cancers and abominations.

No. There is no dailies or decorating or anything like that. You can walk around the monastery, talk to people and do activities to raise support and stats. There are a few minor fetch quests. There's no "mobage" mechanics at all.

>How impactful is the weapon triangle and how powerful are supports?

Like echoes, the triangle is gone. Some weapon types still have an edge over other types, though, like bow for flying etc. Supports give you a little boost I guess? I haven't noticed it much. The whole Fates/Awakening pairing unites to turn them into unstoppable juggernauts is gone.

>How would you describe the map design?

Not great, not terrible.

>What is actually "good" about this game?

Honestly, the best thing is the setting and story. It's been a long time since FE game a shit about worldbuilding and cared about characters outside of "is a waifu."

>How much pandering is there to the fujoshit/tumblr shipping crowd?

Not much. Most of the content is pretty vanilla. I think some of the male/male a supports get a little gay sounding, but I don't plan on doing any of them and you don't have to either.

>Is the story and dialogue more "modernized" in terms of writing such as Awakening or traditional like FE7?

Depends on who's talking. But it doesn't go full on modern slang if that's what you mean. I guess I'd call it "neutral?"

>Are the usual character archetypes present such as the Jeigan and whatnot, does it do anything new or unique in that regard if it doesn't?

I'd say the game does a pretty good job of letting the characters grow well beyond their first impression. Some of them less so, but quite a few of them have good stories.

>How challenging is it? Can you just grind your main character and their S-support and win with pretty much just those 2?

Not hard at all, especially with Lunatic not out yet. You cannot infinitely grind on the "hard" difficulty (which is basically normal), on days where you choose to battle (you essentially have three or so "free days" a month where you can do battles, explore the monastery and do activities, listen to lectures to up stats or rest) you have a certain amount of them you can do based on your professor level.

>Is there a big disparity in terms of power between magic and physical weapons?

it all depends on what you're attacking. Magic tends to melt armor, but seems less effective against lighter units. Mages are also slow as fuck.

>I remember seeing shit in promos a while ago involving soldiers with your forces, is that just a cosmetic difference, or are soldiers actually involved in the game?

Equipping a battalion to a character raises some stats (and lowers other in some cases) and gives you access to a "gambit" when is basically a strong move you can use that has different effects, like preventing the enemy you attacked from moving next turn or giving a buff to nearby allies.

I've been enjoying the game so far. I'm looking forward to ng+.

>>16742838

Your reading comprehension is nigger tier. The lesbian has more options than the fag, but all the women can marry the straight man.

>>16742523

I am liking Edelgard's route a lot so far, probably because I think her character is quite good.

>>16742819

>How impactful is the weapon triangle and how powerful are supports?

The weapon triangle has been replaced by a flanking system. Supports are strong but not nearly to the degree they have been in the 3DS games.

>Are there any things like pair-up from Nu-Emblem?

From what I can tell the only way to pair up is permanent, i.e. if you use the special option to "pair up" you can't unpair mid-map and the paired unit doesn't gain stats, just a chance to get extra damage or avoid an attack.

>How would you describe the map design?

I'm not too far into it yet, but I would say it's about on par with FE7, for good or for bad.

>What is actually "good" about this game?

The writing is much better than in the past. Characters are not tropes on sticks like in Awakening and Fates. There is dual audio. The devs have said they will be adding higher difficulties to enhance replayability.

>How much pandering is there to the fujoshit/tumblr shipping crowd?

Very little.

>Is the story and dialogue more "modernized" in terms of writing such as Awakening or traditional like FE7?

Much more like the traditional style of Echoes.

>Are the usual character archetypes present such as the Jeigan and whatnot, does it do anything new or unique in that regard if it doesn't?

No Jeigan, but I can't say if other archetypes don't show up later in the game. The unique thing about units in 3H is the way you can choose their class in the school portion of the game - essentially instead of reclassing you make them into what you think they would be best at.

>How challenging is it? Can you just grind your main character and their S-support and win with pretty much just those 2?

Hard mode is decently challenging without grinding so far. Like I said, they are adding higher difficulties.

>Is there a big disparity in terms of power between magic and physical weapons?

No. Magic is now extremely limited in uses and it depends on your class how many you get per map.

>I remember seeing shit in promos a while ago involving soldiers with your forces, is that just a cosmetic difference, or are soldiers actually involved in the game?

You can assign battalions to units and they have various effects (buffs or debuffs to hit, crit, avoid, etc). They also level up separately from the unit. They have requirements similar to weapon ranks to use, and they also have unique effects (one gives units in an area in front of the user +5 movement for example). These special abilities are limited in uses, and enemies can also use them. There is more to the mechanic but that is the gist.

>>16742819

I'll field what I can. Got the game as a gift, and about five hours in, but haven't really been able to dig into the systems because the NEET life is an unattainable dream for me.

>How impactful is the weapon triangle and how powerful are supports?

By default, the weapon triangle is weak to the point of almost being nonexistent. An advantaged weapon generally gets a tiny accuracy (and maybe speed) bonus. As you level up your skills, however, you'll get abilities that define the weapons a little more (lances/axes/swords get specials early on that do double damage to horse/armor/flying units, respectively). Maybe counters get harder from there, but I can't say.

>Are there any things like pair-up from Nu-Emblem?

Supposedly, there's an "adjunct" system later that lets you pair units up to share experience or something. I haven't seen it. What I have seen is

>I remember seeing shit in promos a while ago involving soldiers with your forces, is that just a cosmetic difference, or are soldiers actually involved in the game?

battalions, which are basically mobs of mooks you attach a character to as an officer. Mechanically, they give you stat tweaks (early on, that manifests as a minor bonus to accuracy, damage, defense, etc), as well as access to gambits, which are limited-use (but replenished for free between battles) special attacks that scale off of Authority, which levels just like a weapon skill, but governs effectiveness of attached troops.

>How would you describe the map design?

So far, most maps have felt like identifying chokepoints and trying to exploit them by baiting the enemy into rushing headlong into my designated high-def punching bag, then counterattacking with the rest of my army and whittling down their ranks. Again, I'm still relatively early in the game, though I've run into at least one fog gimmick battle already.

>What is actually "good" about this game?

Your mileage may vary on this, but I know at least one person who's hooked on the Persona-esque calendar system mixed with exploration and talking to everyone. I'm not as sweet on it as she is, though I will admit that the game does a good job of throwing mutually-exclusive choices at you that force you to actually make decisions, and I admit interest in wanting to find a way to optimize my scheduling to turn my ragtag team of spoiled nobles into an unstoppable murderball. The RPG side of the game feels pretty well-developed thus far in terms of room for growth in a character, and the game certainly has a number of mechanics all at work under the hood, though I'm frustrated in how slowly it's drip-feeding them to me.

>How much pandering is there to the fujoshit/tumblr shipping crowd?

As far as I can tell, the protag is the only character who can S-rank anybody. I'm not sure if other characters are limited to only one A-support per game, but if not, that means that you don't really have to worry about playing matchmaker for anyone but yourself, and good riddance to that. I liked the designs in the GBA games or even Awakening better, with a few exceptions. Supposedly, they went with the new artist to appeal to fujos, but if so, it backfired, because the girl I know who fits squarely in the post-Awakening FE fan camp can't stand the new art.

>Is the story and dialogue more "modernized" in terms of writing such as Awakening or traditional like FE7?

Somewhere between, so far. There's a hint of Awakening-era chatter, but nothing outside the expected for a game trying to run the school slice-of-life atmosphere. The adults, at least, haven't started acting like retards except as necessary to advance the plot. Nothing blatantly Tumblr so far.

>Are the usual character archetypes present such as the Jeigan and whatnot, does it do anything new or unique in that regard if it doesn't?

No Jeigan. There's still the usual "this guy is clearly meant to be role X" characters, but the game's hidden talent system allows a certain amount of flexibility in that regard (there are built-in abilities that let blue team's obvious-swordmaster and obvious-cavalier to transition into mages with a little autism).

>How challenging is it? Can you just grind your main character and their S-support and win with pretty much just those 2?

Haven't tried that. Playing on Hard/Classic, it's seemed easier than FE7, but that might be because I was a complete shitter when I first played FE7. On Hard, I haven't found any ways to grind without advancing the story yet.

>Is there a big disparity in terms of power between magic and physical weapons?

Mages get a big boost to the power curve early on since spell availability is tied directly to skills. If you want weapons past steel-grade, you need to wait until the game provides them to you, but if you rush A-rank spellcasting, your mages will learn their spells for "free" as part of their advancement. Mages still beat heavy-armor types. Pegasus-types still beat mages.

>>16742918

>but all the women can marry the straight man.

Oooooh

I’ve been wanting that for a while in games with romance options. I may not like that they turned Fire Emblem into a glorified dating sim, but this definitely makes me interested in picking it up.

>>16742523

>pairing up

Lmao only Byleth has S ranks and anything after B rank is reserved for post-timeskip. Furthermore, there are no limits on how many supports you can have at A so there's no reason not to A rank every support with everyone.

Also, Black Eagles but I feel like I joined the bad guy faction but if I took any other house first the surprise would be ruined and have less of an effect.

I'll probably S rank Edelgard first but hikki-chan Bernadetta hits my buttons.

>>16743233

>Lmao only Byleth has S ranks and anything after B rank is reserved for post-timeskip.

True. However anyone who has an a rank with someone else has a paired ending with that character, so you absolutely can pair characters up. I see several people here like >>16743234 >>16743213 are picking up or have picked up Lysithia. She needs a paired ending with Lindhard or Hanneman to live because of having two crests. So they do matter. Mostly just for story fluff, but story fluff is nice,

>>16743250

>anyone who has an a rank with someone else has a paired ending with that character

Does this mean that the game follows the older games' practice of restricting a party member to a single A rank? The way you've phrased it, either one A-rank locks both characters out of any others or you potentially have endings where everyone ends up with a half-dozen spouses.

>>16743265

Play any FE game between 4 and 10

>>16743288

I honestly don't know, to be honest. I haven't gotten there. I just know paired endings are a thing. I have no idea if only one is allowed and if not what picks who gets what paired ending.

From what I've read they actually put effort into the story and a less ballsy Geneology of the Holy war which is probably the best we can hope for in that department. In terms of gameplay it's still FE on babby mode which sucks because even if you wanted to support the game for attempting to go back to its roots you might be giving the devs the idea that Babby Emblem is the right course of action.

>>16742897

Echoes' maps are fine. The game's challenge lies in giving you difficult formations of enemies to pull apart for Alm route and difficult to traverse maps in Celica Route. It's the sort of game where the enemy phase is when you should be dealing the majority of your damage and if you played them with a focus towards efficiency they're pretty fun since enemies are always laid out in a way that they check on another and can kill a unit rather easily in a two or three attacks (on hard mode at least but who plays normal?). Pull them apart one by one like someone who can't think 2-3 turns ahead and you'll naturally finish on turn 20+ like the little scrub you are.

>Fucking christ, play an actual decent entry in the series like the 3 gba games or tellius games. I didn't like some things about Radiant Dawn, but it had actual interesting maps. Hell, even the ORIGINAL game had some more interesting map layouts than this shit.

Here's where I have to question your tastes. The 3 GBA games were very boring overall and that includes map design. FE8 had some good maps but everything else about that game was phoned in and it shows. The game with the best maps and overall design (taking into account item locations pacing and such) is FE 12/3 and on lunatic FE12 is a blast. Too bad it sold poorly and Intelligent Systems got the message and decided creating games catering to teenage girls should be the focus of their games for the next decade.

>yurishitters will buy this kusoge

So is there any reason not to play Black Eagles? I mean, it's the obvious good choice.

>>16742894

you stupid nigger/actual kike shill, being localized by NoE != untouched by localizers

this same exact shit happened with XB2, where people saw there was no visual censorship and assumed the game was faithful to the original when heaps of dialogue had been changed, completely warping some characters' origins qnd personalities

>>16743424

>FE7

>boring and bad with poor map design

FE7 is pretty much universally liked by pretty much all parts of the fanbase that actually played it. There isn't much to criticize in it and you're going against the grain for disliking it, your tastes are definitely more questionable than anyone who liked FE7, that's for sure.

FE8's map design is irrelevant if the game is so easy that everything is made to be inconsequential, including map design.

7's map design was pretty good to great and its balance with everything on HHM makes it quite satisfying, challenging and fun to go through while also being great for people newer to SRPGs on ENM, I dunno what you're on about there.

>It's the sort of game where the enemy phase is when you should be dealing the majority of your damage

You mean like every fucking Fire Emblem game? This statement means fucking nothing.

>>16743540

>FE7 is pretty much universally liked by pretty much all parts of the fanbase that actually played it. There isn't much to criticize in it and you're going against the grain for disliking it, your tastes are definitely more questionable than anyone who liked FE7, that's for sure.

Argument ad populum. Millions loved Skyrim that doesn't make it better than entries that sold less. Also, I never said bad but "boring." The majority of maps were variations of open plains with forests with small groups of enemies littered about. There were some good ones like the Lyn's recruitment map where you actually had to watch out for aggro range of multiple archers and maches and the maps did get more interesting late game but you have to deal with sparsely populated plains for 80% of the game and it's so very, very boring

>You mean like every fucking Fire Emblem game? This statement means fucking nothing.

You way to pick out a sentence and ignore the rest of the paragraph. In echoes not only do you deal more damage than other games but you're dealing with more enemies each enemy phase because of their distribution. In GBA FE games you really only had to deal with the closest group. In Echoes Alm routeyour starting position and the enemy distribution is designed in a way where you able to tackle all of them at once. Even in Celica's route the enemy's phase is still more important than other games because not only you do the same as in Alm's route but you but there's an emphasis on baiting charging enemies into because of restricted movement and closed off paths

Edelgard did nothing wrong.

>>16743642

Tau.

>>16743516

You do know Annette has a yuri ending Mercedes right?

>>16743683

Some maps have fog, yes. Having a torch on the unit just increases their vision range.

>>16743700

Torch is also a white magic spell according to datamines.

>>16743581

I remember pretty much every map from FE7 as I love that game to literal death, and very, very few of them were just "plains with forests and small groups of enemies". If you said FE6 you'd be a little more correct, but not by much but that game had plenty of other problems anyways.

Let's look at the non-"plains" maps first

>Hector's first map

>Castle map where you have to defend against Euban's mercenaries

>Map directly after you recruit Lyn and take back the castle

>gaiden map with the pirates

>The ship map where you have to defend against Nergal's forces attacking from literally all sides

>The dread isle map where you fight marquess Laus

>the sekrit HHM gaiden map immediately after with the fog of war and shit

>The next map after that which is a fog of war village map after you get back from the dread isles

>The map after that where you fight in the "middle" castle and have to defend against the mercenaries for the last time

>The next map which is the desert map with Pent and Hawkeye

>The gaiden Map after that where you fall into some ruins or some shit with the magic seal

>The (alternating pair of) maps where you infiltrate the black fang's headquarters

>Battle Before Dawn

>The gaiden chapter after that with the water temple

>The MC's "trial" chapter to obtain their weapon

>Ostia's Castle Defense chapter where Lord Nergal has a Message for You

>The last gaiden chapter involving the magic seal (iirc)

>the final chapter

I don't feel like I need to explain what's unique, good and fun about those chapters, as that would be fucking tedious and a full-game fucking analysis, but let's look at the ones that you "could" call plains chapters. I'm excluding Lyn mode shit for obvious reasons. (Will take a second post since this is too long)

>>16743581

>>16743756

>Eliwood's first chapter

Its w/e, a very basic chapter to the point where I don't even count it

>Hector's second chapter

Half the map was forest and mountain, with some forts sprinkled in, but you were put in a tough situation because your forces are separated, and apart from Marcus and Oswin they are weak and vulnerable and there's a reasonable amount of bandits and pegasus knights coming from the east side of the map, along with a moving boss. A good amount of enemies and its tough enough at the start of HHM, and for new players it's challenging enough.

>The succeeding chapter where you reach Marquess Helman's castle

The village in the top left, the choke in the mid-east along with the very narrow branch paths make it a tough map to handle while succeeding at everything and not losing any units. Not to mention the risk of Guy, and the fact that the forts produce heavy amounts of units

>Chapter 13x (Merlinus recruitment chapter

This is a very good one. Fog of war everywhere, you have to protect a fragile target. A high-value village in the top right, a boss that might be worth tackling for experience in the left side, a huge amount of nomads and just in-general tough units from the left and north, dangerous units all around and heavy amounts of bandits producing from 3 forts in the southeast, along with a time limit and the fact that the units are tough enough to kill Marcus if there is enough of them, along with the fact that anyone with a brain can tell advantage terrain such as forests were placed very carefully, and the branch paths also make it difficult to deal with, especially in the fog of war.

Chapter 14 where you take down Erik can be called a "plains map" with a little bit of forest, but to say its boring or has few enemies is pretty shitty. It has a ton of enemies, side objectives on 2 hard parts of the map to reach, one of which is a powerful recruitable character, and the other is as well (but the dude is fragile and can kill himself if you don't get there fast) along with pirates threatening the villages and your lance-wielders and swarms of fliers and dangerous units literally everywhere and spawning. Its a full-on ambush, I don't know how enemy volume can be complained about here at least, and the narrow pathways and forest placements were also deliberate here too; from the start every placement and decision you make

Chapter 15 is the Lyn recruitment mission which you did praise.

Chapter 18 is more a forest map to me than a plains map, and there are plenty of enemies, fog of war, and an extremely dangerous boss along with kamikaze fliers that can fuck up any non-axe wielding unit (And even an axe wielder if more than 3 of them are able to attack him, purely because steel lances are powerful in the hands of enemies that don't mind being expendable to get a hit off on someone)

Chapter 18x is more forest than plains, has plenty of fliers, mages and shit spawning and can easily ruin your day if you aren't careful, along with bonus objectives like killing the Magic seal and stealing/obtaining the valuables

Chapter 23A is split by a huge mass of water, a village on the left, it can hardly be called a "plains" mission, its very unusual, its more like a dock mission and its challenging enough to deal with due to the way the enemy spawns, where the stuff of value is, the choke points being carefully placed, and Geitz who you'd want to snag along with the possible secret shop

23B is a good mission too. Fog of war, mountain separation, side objectives (i.e. villages) being in awkward places that require movement through chokes or risk of flying through ballista fire, the recruitable character (Wallace) moving around, the shops you'd want to take advantage of, the dangerous moving boss Lloyd who can fuck up your day, or fuck himself up and kill himself too early if you are somehow strong enough to withstand him, and you miss out on getting shit you might want, the bombardment of units from the start, the fort placement being deliberately within dangerous range of literally everything from the north

Chapter 24, where you defend against Vaida, is a good map. I don't need to defend it. Tough set of circumstances, tough side objectives to get; tough, swarming enemies from all sides, Merlinus in a tough spot, etc.

Chapter 25 is more a chapter to get Farina's levels up than anything else, I'd just call it cute.

(Fuck's sake apparently I need a 3rd post)

>>16743757

>>16743756

>>16743581

Cog of Destiny is just a fucking gauntlet, but its not "plains with forest lmao" and enemy volume is the most in this one out of the whole fucking game I think, not to mention they are ridiculously powerful and vary to shit like fucking ranged nuking spellcasters who can bombard you to snipers on ballistas.

Victory or Death (Limstella's last chapter) is probably the closest thing to a textbook description of what you were saying, and even that has more than enough going for it with the temples being split into 3 areas, bombardment from ballistas, massive, dangerous enemy spawning and the fact that getting to Limstella requires breaking through a full gauntlet of people.

Oh look at that, I pretty much described nearly every chapter in the game excluding Lyn mode, so much for "80%" of the game fitting your shitty little "plains" moniker eh?

>>16743758

My bad it's just 23 out of 40 that mostly play the same (move from group of enemy to next grouP) with a few different side objectives and reinforcements sometimes. And that's just counting maps that look like pains. Most of which are in the first half of the game.

https://serenesforest.net/blazing-sword/miscellaneous/chapter-maps/

>>16743771

>counting Lyn mode maps to pad out numbers

>give the most broad, overarching statement possible next to "press buttons lmao"

>never address anything

>"few different side objectives and reinforcements sometimes"

Be honest, did you even play the game? This is just desperate posturing at this point, what you claim Gaiden does as an advantage is "it throws more enemies at you all at once lmao" and yet you think you're qualified to talk about strategy while flippantly ignoring that FE7's placement of enemies is not only deliberate but also to underscore different progressions, strategies and options to play the map?

The fact that even simply the type of enemy changing between modes and thus drastically altering how the map would play for example, never factored in to your thoughts?

This is a fucking feeble and pathetic display.

"Look like pains", what kind of fucking analysis or statement is that? Did you actually play them, or are you posturing like a faggot now that you have nothing meaningful to say after calling a great game boring and mediocre in a one-line sentence while trashing someone else's taste?

Fucking kill yourself faggot.

>>16743778

Partially disregard the Lyn mode statement, there's 36 maps in non-lyn mode so I assumed you counted them, but I don't know where you got 40 from.

Regardless, if you're looking at the fucking terrain of a still map jpeg and making an assessment based off that, that's fucking foolish

>>16743778

<This game is boring

>It's not boring after 12 hours and really fun for a few chapters. Fog of War is really interesting and fun

<Echoes is more fun because there's a lot more happening at once

>You're just desperate and you know nothing about how strategy because you do not sparsely grouped enemies throughout maps that play mostly the same

Okay

>>16743788

The weirdest fucking thing to me about Mirage Sessions is how much budget it seemed to have. Hell the walking around segments and cutscenes in Three Houses look worse than TMS. I guess that's what you get with Atlus at the helm.

>>16743799

Tres Casas really feels like they're trying to re-learn what they forgot after more than a decade's worth of easily developed handheld games that doesn't go beyond hardware limitations, a lot of stiff animation and pop-ins and area/loading transitions, otherwise, it's a step-up, but still needs more polish if they're planning to do more games in Switch and the next one after that.

>>16743788

This is still a waste of a game.

>>16742523

They should start releasing Fire Emblems on PC

>>16743793

Lyn's chapter kills FE7 since it's literally a forced unskippable tutorial for americans.

Quick Question (spoilery about Black Eagle path)

I've sided with Edelgard against the church and in the following mission went against Leonie who I was trying to recruit pre-skip. Instead of killing her (I dragontimed back after a counter crit) I ended the mission early by killing the commander, and Edelgard said everyone else would be spared if they laid down their arms.

Does this mean I can eventually recruit Leonie somehow? She got hotter with age. And Edelgard grew some nice tits too.

>>16742523

Is this worth buying full price? Also I'm worried people will not be as interested in buying the physical copy once I'm done with the game unlike games like maro kart, smash, botw, etc.

>>16744208

Probably not at full price, try waiting for now. You could always hack and play it that way, though.

>>16744208

They planning an expansion pack for the game next year on April, so better wait till a complete edition considering that this is Nintendo.

>>16744061

No, you can only recruit pre-timeskip. But it is implied that those you spare live. There is an exeption, but I believe it's Golden Dear route only.

>>16744061

Outside of Lysithia, who seems to be a special case where you have a choice, I don't think it's possible to recruit anyone post-timeskip. I could be wrong, though. I haven't gotten there personally. It'll also be hard for me to check because I've acquired all but like three possible characters and the only reason I don't have them is because I find them boring. Also there aren't enough girls to pair them with so…

Is this game tolerable for people who hate Awakening/Fates, or am I just going to spend the whole game being mad about the decline of FE as a series?

>>16742523

>Which house did you join?

Blue Lions. Golden Deer next probably.

>Who are you s-supporting?

Not sure, I have almost everyone available at blue S so I will choose later. I regret that I'm not playing female, I'd just S-Rank Dimitri without a second thought. He really deserves a good wife.

>Who are you poaching?

I've got Lindhardt, Lysithea, Dorothea, Lorenz and the glasses Golden Deer who decided to join me for no reason despite me not even getting C rank with him, and I can't remember what the fuck he's even called - all are benchwarmers, except Lindhardt who has great spell access and stats even though his specialisations screw him at master classes, and I don't think I have enough time to get him at least B rank Sword for Savant so I at least made him go Dark Mage > Dark Bishop so he stays useful. Dorothea is one of my adjutants

>Who are you pairing up?

Can you even do that? I have A ranks in most cases where it's possible, unless it's for units I've eventually benched like Catherine, Cyril, teachers, but not Seteth/Flayn who are awesome.

>Who are you absolutely killing?

Edgelord and her band.

>Are you having fun?

Yes, a lot.

>>16745374

>Can you even do that?

Yes characters have paired endings based on A ranks. I'm not sure how the game handles who gets what when one person has multiple.

>>16743793

>Its not boring after 12 hours

Nigger in what universe does a fucking tutorial mode take you 12 hours. Are you admitting to just being a fucking casual? Or is this another "80%" style exaggeration, because I just realized what you fucking did to arrive at that bullshit "23 out of 40" number. You excluded Lyn's maps for the total number of non-lyn mode maps which was 36, yet you included them in the "23" number to make it look far worse than what it actually was, which was already an extremely shallow, disingenuous and meaningless criticism based purely on the fucking tileset of the map and nothing further.

You're looking more and more like a disingenuous shitposter at this point, and your response pushes this further.

Its fun for nearly the entire fucking game outside of Lyn mode, which takes up the vast, vast majority of the fucking game. Fog of war is fine and simply adds another layer and makes torch and light management actually fucking meaningful, and its used wisely. There's enough chapters to make it important, but not enough to make it overbearing and they spread them out wisely.

"Lot more happening at once" means fucking nothing. What kind of statement is that? Mosous have a "lot more happening at once" in terms of enemies clogging up the fucking screen, but as a general rule of thumb they are not considered particularly deep game. Do I need to lay down the strategic values of and throughout the entire fucking game before it gets through your thick skull, or would you prefer to keep responding like a fucking programmed retard who has nothing more to say than

>more enemies at once good

>groups of enemies bad spread across map bad

Because that doesn't mean fucking shit and I already addressed it.

Where is the response to any of the shit I have laid out? These are vague, meaningless, generalized statements that mean and prove fucking nothing. Say something of fucking value and meaning already that can actually be addressed, because if your strongest criticism for the entire game of FE is

>lmao fuck the tutorial mode

then you should realize how fucking weak, shallow and lame of a criticism it is as it is not representative of the entire fucking game whatsoever, let alone the harder modes of the game which can change the dynamic of the game itself completely.

>>16743877

Its able to be completely skipped after you've cleared the game once, or if you really cannot tolerate it, there are save files literally littering the internet that allows you to skip it entirely.

I thought it was cute with a nice little story for what it was as well as a good introduction to some of the characters, and a good tutorial since I was very new to SRPGs at the time.

Does Edelgard become a genocidal yandere for sensei or just the greater good?

is this game worth buying?

>>16746289

Greater Good

>>16746333

What a shame. Guess only thing that can change her mind at this point is high impact sexual violence. Can't wait for mindbreaking doujins to pour in.

>>16742523

So just how crazy does Edelgard get? Been a while since I played a game with a unrepentant villain for a protagonist so I might play it for that

>>16746474

Laaaame, where is my waifu a psycho and join her merry band of murderers to slaughter a bunch of dumb shounen shitters bideo gayme?

**Keeping her on the straight and narrow does sound kind of neat doe, might try it out after all*

>>16747445

Fuck me running, let the bullying begin

>>16746474

can you fug?

>>16746467

reason why cause you saved her in the start of the game her life and everything could of ended there but you saved her. she sees you her savior even if you don't join her house.

she just wants a big strong women or man to lift her up

>>16747445

Did you miss the whole "Claude is Robin Hood so he's automatically the Shounen shitter of the story even if you don't join him" part? Calude remains a neutral Robin shitter all the way, Edelgard becomes Edge-gard and Dimitri becomes Punished Alexander if you don't side with him. Honestly, all three lords are pretty shitty in this game, a far cry from almost all the previous goody-two shoes(Marth, Alm, Leif, Roy, Eliwood, Lyn, Chron) or tough love anikis(Sigurd, Seliph, Hector, Ike) and they're stupid, despite the very anime-like quirks, like Merceds wanting to bondage rape any cute girl she sees until you give her a big heaping dick to suck, are the only ones you can say they're somewhat nice, no matter the side. Exceptions being the loyaltyfags like Emobert, Giganigga and fuckstick Lorenz(I think), who are shit anyway.

Best thing you can do is go with Edelgard, recruit all the students to your side, fuck the other two, kill Rhea and either hook up with big red milkies Edelgard, milky Dorothea, exotic freak Petra, Mercy-nee or get your dragon loli and call it a day.

>>16747763

*Fucked up meant to say :

>and they students, despite the very anime-like quirks,

>>16747578

So, the moral of the story is "fucking with time always fucks shit up". You shouldn't have messed with time using the god loli power to save Edelgard. Her death would solve a lot of shit.

>>16747840

Why the fuck would you parry an axe with your back?? Is Byleth retarded?

>>16742523

>>Which house did you join?

black eagles

>>Who are you s-supporting?

Edelgard i may have been to nice to Bernie, though since i unlocked S rank immediately after the time skip. I hope i can still pick Edelgard, i wanted to marry Bernie in the Church route

>>Who are you poaching?

i got Lysithea and Felix

>>Who are you pairing up?

don't really care about who else pairs up with whom

>>Who are you absolutely killing?

my enemies

>>What are you classing everyone as?

as whatever

>>Are you having fun?

it's starting to be a love-hate relationship, maybe i shouldn't have picked hard difficulty on my first ever FE playthrough. most of my team being a little under leveled probably isn't doing me any favors, though.

I fucked up.

I was keeping a single save file the whole time, didn't bother to recruit any other characters because I figured I could always use the "TALK" command when I met them on the battlefield like in other FE games. I used my activity points to level up my professor so he could better train his students.

Now I've only got my default BE house members and the ara songstress and the crest professor faculty. And Sharim, who is one of the hottest characters in the game holy shit.

So now I think I'm gonna restart. And roll with a femleth this time because those titties are outrageous. And put it on Hard mode because normal is waaaay too easy.

The outfits aren't very revealing but the character proportions are A++ for CY+5.

I need to recruit a bunch of characters to create my ideal team/harem

>Leonie as Great Knight

>Ingrid as Falcon Knight

>Marianne as Holy Knight

>Mercedes as Dark Knight

>Shamir as Bow Knight

>Dorothea as Dancer

>Manuella as Gremory

That gives me 7 for my core team, plus Edelgard and Byleth, which is 9. Since most missions only let you command 10 units, I'll have a free slot to fill with a random depending on the mission.

>Bernie as Bow Knight

>Lysithea as Gremory

>Annette as Holy Knight

>Ferdinand as Great Knight

>>16748080

deal with your choices fag

>>16748080

>Not having Wyvern Lord Petra

You're missing out on a beast, lad.

Is there any way to train Byleth reasonably quickly? Even my good skills are lagging behind. Most of my students have multiple B-rank skills, but my highest is a C+ with Sword. It seems a little unfair that students get to study during the week while Byleth does nothing.

>>16748138

You can spend activity points to do training with other faculty members. Post timeskip you can do it with every character you have.That's probably the fastest, most effective way.

>>16748104

I thought Wyverns were only for boys, and Pegasi were for girls.

I'll definitely do that though.

>>16748254

What? Did you expect her to just give up everything she believed in so she could live a few more paltry years in confinement before dying of having two crests? Of course she wouldn't. She choose to give Dimitri his knife back instead.

>>16748254

>>>/cuckchannel/

>>16747853

She's not autistic. She is somewhat stunted since a fucking god messed with her heart. She only ever cries when they kill her dad for a reason knee grow.

>>16742657

yuri is vanilla too, anon.

>>16749197

Its okay in NG+ you can select their outfits.

>>16749486

I hate it. I thought Ingrid looked super pretty before when I made her a pegasus knight, with long braided blonde hair, and now she looks like a fucking dyke for no reason.

>>16749197

I thought Fire Emblem was a strategy game.

>>16749618

>I thought Fire Emblem was a strategy game.

It used to be. Now it's a waifu Persona game with a SRPG mini-game in between tea parties.

>>16749621

Seeing Leonie with long hair made me want to start over and recruit her ASAP.

I really fucked up ignoring the support relationships to recruit other characters. I thought they all had to be done by meeting stat and skill requirements, instead of just using B-tier support status.

>>16749641

Homosexuality and women can't be pure.

>>16749486

>an the japanese find another way to display a life change in girls rather than chopping their lovely hair off?

This is actually a real-life phenomenon and it's a form of cunt attention-seeking

>introduce romance

>with iteration 2 the game is plain and dumb

>with iteration 3 the game is pure cancer

Every single time.

>>16749765

Maybe. The japanese tend to do it for story reasons. Unlike westerners who do it to simply make the character less attractive

>>16750239

Are you saying that people always get shorter hair over time? Are you aware that hair also grows, meaning that it can also be longer or the same length?

>>16750256

I'm saying complaining about a character not looking the same after a 5 year time skip is autistic.

>>16749657

>I thought they all had to be done by meeting stat and skill requirements, instead of just using B-tier support status.

Ye most guides, including the one I read, gave out the formula as "15 in preferred stat, C in preferred skill and C support plus a little extra." But if you can just get their support to B and skip the skill grinding then there are more characters I am thinking about recruiting.

>>16750131

>Most of the time they’re too stupid to consciously recognize THAT they’ve done so

You believe that tripe? They are much more aware of the attention seeking actions they commit and will claim otherwise as a matter of course to get more sympathy.

>>16750282

They can change their looks without cutting their hair short. Also, the whole cutting off long hair equals character growth thing is all over nip (in particular) media, so of course people that like long hair would be annoyed with it.

>autistic

I will give you a friendly suggestion to learn ways to describe things that you don't like besides that word.

>>16750391

>I will give you a friendly suggestion to learn ways to describe things that you don't like besides that word.

Thanks for the tip autist.

What does the >> above certain Support letters mean?

>>16750861

Multiple conversations to get the rank.

>>16750861

>>16750872

No it means C+/B+/A+. They just have more conversations. They still get a rank even for the first tic.

>>16752135

>Everyone […] seems like a poor character

welcome to new fire emblem

Can't wait for "Edelgard did nothing wrong" to be the new meme. They say Black Eagles are the villains of the world. But it sounds like they're a faction who knows their power and uses it to attain their goals for the greater good. That is only Byleth and Edelgard hold hands and headpats.

>>16752601

Need to clarify. Edelgard will do nothing wrong only if Byleth is there to pat her head and hold hands. Sorry for double post.

>>16749197

Ingrid tied her hair. It is still somewhat long.

>>16752601

>greater good

Play the other routes MAH crest fag.

>>16749641

>homo acceptance for your personal lust

Gas yourself

>>16747763

Alright you convinced me, I'll give the game a shot

>>16753239

>>16753262

>fanbase is united because the game has less fanservice

>United

More like cucks act like it's a win because there's no obvious Tharja or Camilla in the game.

>>16753286

Kronya is the tharja/camilla of the game in terms of design if not lewder and post timeskip Hilda comes close.

>>16753342

The point is that those types don't play the entire game.

>>16753342

Also Kronya is literally in one chapter. She spends a couple of chapters as Monica. Reveals her Kronya disguise and is killed same mission. Makes me think they must have DLC plans for her.

>>16753555

Probably as she is in Heroes already.

>>16753767

> IS' biggest contribution being "Lol, bring the artist, make the chinese things into western on a surface level, PUT THE FUCKING SCHOOL IN, MUH PERSONA"

I coulda been playing Fire Emblem as Wei? Not that Koei doesn't have their own from of that in Rise of Cao Cao, but a version that isn't decades old or on mobile with microtransactions would be great.

The endings I got for some of my Blue Lions are weird. What determines the pairing when A's are gotten?

>Ashe makes a restaurant which Dedue happens to frequent. That's the shittiest ending imaginable for Ashe, whom I wanted to actually achieve something and get someone. I liked that fucking archer, I gave him stat items and he turned into a critting war god, and this is what he gets? A fucking restaurant which Dedue goes to sometimes?

>Ingrid goes for Seteth. Good.

>Flayn and Dimitri together is pretty great, the blood of the kingdom's future rulers is guaranteed to be top notch. I'm pleased.

>Sylvain and Felix either go gay for each other, or have the most dedicated friendship imaginable. Okay.

>Mercedes and Annette go lesbian or become even more dedicated friends, which is probably why Dedue and Ashe had to get such a shitty ending - my boy Ashe can't spawn kids with Annette or Mercedes in that case.

>>16754260

>What determines the pairing when A's are gotten?

I honestly have no clue. Personally I have only been letting people a rank who I want to actually have an ending with each other. I think Felix and Slyvain have two pips for A, giving them A plus when they're done, so that probably prioritizes them. Maybe Annette and Mercedes simply have an affinity for each other? But yeah, I have no idea what metric it chooses to determine which one to pick. So the safest option is just to let them only have the A rank you want.

>>16754341

I think I figured it out. The X status menu says who the closest ally to the guy is, and that means who has the most (hidden) affinity out of those who've reached the right rank. It will of course get weird based on whom Byleth chooses to fuck, but it might be accurate. The UI is absolute trash so everything's hard to find, but it's there and I assume it's what it's all about. I assume it changes based on hidden true affinity points which probably are gotten even after you get A rank, so in my case because I constantly had Sylvain and Felix on one side with a healer they ended up gay, and because I often had Dedede get hit by something on the edge of enemy's range with Ashe on the adjacent tile to get the kill after enemy's turn, those two got a ton of points too.

>>16753262

Who the fuck said anything about the fanbase being fucking "united"? I don't remember recalling or hearing anything at all about that or anything even close to it.

>>16753262

>>16754260

I unironically have a boner for enemy characters and I want to collect them all, Fates was great for the capture mechanic in that. Also why does everyone have this autism for playing matchmaker and pairing up your toons? Even if they don't end up with someone from their class chances are they'll find someone else or maybe their course in life won't be decided by who they fucked from their class.

>>16755517

literally anime drawings bite me

>>16755460

>Also why does everyone have this autism for playing matchmaker and pairing up your toons?

Because you care about the characters and what sort of ending they get?

>>16755874

Then just use your imagination instead of autistically complaining about the game not providing an epilogue where they have gay homosex with whoever dudes you A ranked.

>>16755919

>Use your imagination

>The game actually has the feature

>?

Also no one was asking for homosex, reading comprehension-kun. Someone was complaining it happened.

>>16755936

>>16754260

It could go either way. Either he's complaining Ashe didn't end up with a girl or complaining he and Dedue do not fuck in their ending together.

Protip: If you want to know who is gay, check for males with S rank available to manlyth.

>>16755950

Actually that's not a hard and fast rule. Felix and Sylvain's ending is pretty fucking gay and neither of them are S ranks for male Byleth. Certain characters also seem to go gay who aren't s-rank options for Byleth when paired with certain other people. Dorothea has that effect on a lot of girls for instance, like Petra and Manuela.

>>16755439

I've been seeing idiots post that the fanbase is united on most sites in the normalfags sphere, but I assuming they just mean there are less boobies to be triggered by and most of them probably wont make it to the timeskip like >>16753385 said.

>>16755950

Ah yes, just like in previous Fire Emblems with most famous of gay couples like Raven and Lucius and Ike and Soren. Because that's totally how it worked out before and after Fates.Fag.

Also, not every A or S support ends in homosex which is why the fujos and the fags on tumbltwatter are raging like bitches in heat. You get dadzoned and son zoned in two of the supposed homosex endings and you actually marry either a village girl or a daughter, while other characters that have supposedly gey endings all go "both friends become close as brothers and they ruled with their waifus their counties in peace forever." It's only the yuri that is straightforward in this game.

>>16753342

>>16753555

>>16753591

We need Kronya. I'm not touching Heroes but its really tempting me even though its gachashit because at least you'll be keeping your favorites for a long time and won't have to worry about the game they're in becoming obsolete.

>>16757143

Thing is, though, the gay ends and friendzone ends are mixed together and its hard to tell who will get what when two dudes A rank. Its less distasteful with surprise yuri ends so being a mixed bag there is less of a hazard.

>>16757270

The endings have been leaked though for quite some time, it's why anons breathed somewhat breathed a sigh of relief while the (((usual suspects))) kvetched. Even in the FE wikis they have details.

>>16757392

Yea, well, not every gamer is so morally compromised as to rely on a guide the first time through instead of rolling with the dice and being a MAN about doing things on your own power.

>>16757810

>Throwing money down the drain

Dude, it's not the SNES days anymore and you should know that. Nowadays, almost every game requires thorough inspection to be worht your time and money, something that couldn't happen back in the Atari and NES daysfag

>>16742523

>House

Blue Lions. Best house in stats. Chad house. Edelgard is waifubait trash

>who are you s-supporting

Ingrid probably

>who are you poaching?

everyone, but IDK if i'll use them

>who are you pairing up?

unlocking supports so everyone as long as they have supports with my main units

>Who are you killing?

Edelgard, autistic waifubait trahs who is clearly the villain of this story

>fun?

This game is a huge step up from the previous fire emblem games

I'm playing on Hard/Casual, to avoid autistic console resets. I have done perfect runs on Hard/Classic many times and it's just a logistical drag for minor mistakes. Although now with Divine Pulse I could just use that, which lowers the drag.I still make sure nobody dies though.

>>16747840

bullshit and you know it. He could've just let the bitch die and none of the troubles would've happened

>>16755950

isn't there only one character who gets a gay option with manlyth? the guy who sleeps alot from Golden Deers. that's about it

meanwhile Female Byleth gets all the yuri

>>16758175

Lindardt is Black Eagles not Golden Deer, but otherwise you are correct.

>>16749561

You can choose their design in New Game+ so don't worry.

>>16752182

Dimitri's is pretty much the morally correct choice, so it is probably best saved for last.

>>16748080

Annete is best as Dancer due to her Rally innate, rally unique from Authority and mainly support from far away, but yes Holy knight is fine too.

>Team Harem of girls + 1 pretty boy with long hair

I laughed.

>>16761804

Not really? Dimitri is honestly a bit of a fuckup. He makes a lot of wrong assumptions and ends up getting a lot of people killed who didn't need to be. Ultimately he makes the best of his mess in the end, but it's far from a perfect ending. If you want the least morally ambiguous, most shonen hero path, that's Claude. I say this as someone who likes Edelgard's route best.

>>16742611

>beating Awakening or Fates is not an accomplishment whatsoever

That does not apply to Fates Conquest. The levels in that game are a challenge, resources are limited, and there is no way for the player to level up outside of scenarios. Even spawn in enemies give 0 experience. The only way to really cheese it is through the daily rewards of castles (takes time) or by making an OP main character through acquiring the right abilities through sieges. If you care about the challenge, then don't visit other player castles and do not upload yours.

Why did they make the church route the only one where you can S-support Rhea and not make her the lord of the route?

>Edeltards

None of houses are "deep". Don't try to sell me your dumpster fire of a house as "misunderstood".

BL and GD are indisputably better on the basis of not siding with someone who would collude with your father's murderers.

So I'm planning to try a bare hands only run, Blue Lions since I'll need Dedue and I'm going to recruit Caspar and Raphael, are there any others I'll need or will those three along with the rest of the BLs be enough to get by?>>16762368

This, at her best Edelgard is anti-hero who's working with shitty intel whose actions make things WORSE, not better and plays in to the hands of the people she hates- the only reason it doesn't end badly for her is because of the followers she suckers in to following her retardation