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File: 296352115de35f8⋯.jpg (27.71 KB, 600x337, 600:337, From-Soft_12-28-18.jpg)

5fa5ad  No.16741922

>Favorite Armored Core

>Favorite Souls game

>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

Already have a xbox, so i don't care about the port. Although, it would be nice to see Lost Kingdoms again.

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14d4b6  No.16741935

>favorite data mining thread

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da171b  No.16741967

>data mining in a Korean esports board and not a forum full of normalfags like gamefags

WHERE'S THE ARMORED CORE FROM?!

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fe5382  No.16741971

I'm playing Sekiro right now and it's pretty good

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5fa5ad  No.16741972

>>16741935

>>16741967

I have no attachment to FromSoftware Incorporated, owner of Armored Core™ and Dark Souls™. I'm just an anonymous person on the internet. Now, Do you like Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice™?

If not you can always ask us for support or check our FAQ

https://www.fromsoftware.jp/ww/faq.html

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8dcc5f  No.16741979

looks like the undertale title logo as a thumbnail

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ca43cc  No.16741983

>>16741922

>Metal Wolf Chaos DX

>DX

We both know that's not what it's called.

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da171b  No.16741986

>>16741972

The game where your favorite game is shit.

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b7b0a0  No.16742001

File: b88e270379d2d0b⋯.jpg (30.63 KB, 600x600, 1:1, a16-049.jpg)

>tfw from will never make a unique game again

>even if they make another armored core, a series with 20 existing games, it will just be armored souls

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3ac84c  No.16742144

>tfw FS have been making the same game since Demon's Souls

>tfw they go further and further into action game territory but never fully commit, leaving a half baked action game with RPG elements that is outdone by proper ones

>>16742001

A modern AC with good physics and all the bells and whistles modern tech is capable of would be real nice. Touch up the controls a bit too. Ideally it wouldn't be Armored Souls but it would be a lot more like an action game.

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4c3dff  No.16742152

>>16741922

anything new about elden ring?

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8b7b53  No.16742165

>>16742152

Considering the marketing featured not a second of gameplay, you can bet your ass it's made to "broaden the appeal" of Dark Souls and market to lorefags who jerk themselves over every piece of text related to these games.

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cb1e55  No.16742186

File: e5c2e4d3058e315⋯.jpg (67.32 KB, 600x662, 300:331, [inaudiable screaming].jpg)

>tfw if From ever make another mecha game it'll just be Dork Souls with robots

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f97b6d  No.16742202

>>16742144

>tfw we will never have the pure action dark souls game that essentally is a good 3d castlevania

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d72569  No.16742209

>>16742144

But AC:VD came out after Dark Souls. Admittedly it was before Dark Souls got popular.

Also V had a better multiplayer but also had a huge fucking pile of balancing issues. VD fixed a lot of those balancing issues, but also made the conquest mode so much worse.

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8b7b53  No.16742211

>>16742202

>Dark Souls

<anything like Castlevania

It's closer to an edgy Zelda than anything.

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f97b6d  No.16742215

>>16742211

Dark souls 3 is the best 3d castlevania game ever made.

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8b7b53  No.16742218

>>16742215

That's not saying much considering how shit 3d Castlevanias are. It's like saying New Vegas is the best Fallout or something.

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c326e0  No.16742220

File: 7e8dfea9db1d20e⋯.jpg (336.38 KB, 1126x1125, 1126:1125, 7e8dfea9db1d20e30e027c256e….jpg)

>>16742186

>tfw if they don't, the souls fans and reviews will trash it for "not being like a fromsoft game"

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f97b6d  No.16742223

>>16742218

Fair enough but if you took out the RPG elements of ds3, it would be a damn good 3d castlevania.

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dbc8c4  No.16742235

File: 83f30cbb75539cf⋯.jpg (53.13 KB, 610x343, 610:343, darksoulsrating_610.jpg)

>Favorite Armored Core

never played it

>Favorite Souls game

Demon's Souls

>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

no

>favorite data mining thread

FRIDAY NIGHT, MUTHAFUCKA!

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b33e58  No.16742307

Sekiro is pretty good. Too damn hard though. Takes 3-4 hours of attempts on some bosses.

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b47c6d  No.16742317

Best Armored Core game is tie between Silent Line, Nexus, and Last Raven.

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8109da  No.16742330

>>16742001

i just want 4a with a better framerate and people playing online again

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afd8ed  No.16742337

>>16742235

>data mining

I was wondering where you went. How come you don’t post on Friday Night threads anymore?

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e3cb0e  No.16742339

Lost Kingdoms is my favorite From Software game. Need them to release another sequel, Lost Kingdoms 2 was good but need more card variety and online multiplayer.

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797872  No.16742350

File: bc48a2934af1203⋯.jpg (111.8 KB, 500x704, 125:176, BestSouls.jpg)

>>16741922

Why is this the best again?

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04a915  No.16742364

File: a23564026c59dfe⋯.png (252.42 KB, 600x600, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

DLC never

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1181f7  No.16742386

Nexus and Bloodborne.

I already played Metal Wolf. It was a good ride but I don't care to play it again

>>16741967

You have to datamine everywhere, you know? Know your enemy and all that

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35af33  No.16742412

File: 4bd1f81735f619f⋯.png (284.7 KB, 320x361, 320:361, Screenshot_102.png)

>>16741971

It's pretty fucking frustrating honestly. Every time I get to liking the game it takes a shit on your chest. The most garbage aspect about the game by far is probably the camera. I'm fucking sick of getting 90% into a bosses HP and being backed into a wall so the camera scrunches up so all I can see is 8 pixels of Wolf's ass or it just randomly unlocks and I have to re-orientate. In Dark Souls this wasn't as much as a problem since the fights were typacly more strategy over raw input and frontal lobe reaction time. But in this game the "soulslike" mechanic is beginning to show where it fails more than ever because of how much more focused you have to be on enemy actions and area placement.

After that I just feel kinda sour on the game as a whole. I'm enjoying much of the challenge, but it generally feels like blasting through most of the progression until you hit a boss. Then it's anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours of effort depending on how the game feels. I enjoyed bosses being a more minimal effort in the older games. Now they seem to be the focus of difficulty. I had the most fun leading up to the castle gates. After that you could essentially blast through most areas with minimal difficulty.

Really this seems to be the worst Fromsoft souls game to come out. Not sure if it's worse than DS2 but on the same hand there are extreme differences between the souls series and this product. I just really hate (and really enjoy) many of their decisions. It's been a while since I've felt so split on a game. Since it's rare to find something that's so challenging yet so close to actually being objectively balanced and fair. It's a game I would actually like break down and objectively look through and criticize every aspect if I actually had the time.

Ultimately the main thing I take away from it though is that we need more games like Dark Tower from Fromsoft and less like this, at least on a gameplay perspective, not a themed one. Half the reason I like the game is because it's a cassarole of japanede folklore, which is impossible to hate. That being said the soulslike games need a break, if not a permanent one.

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d23d9f  No.16742445

I wish they'd do another Shadow Tower without any spiritual successor bullshit. Abyss is one of my favorite games of theirs.

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b1ef99  No.16742490

>>16742350

This game was total shit. It was the best at being total shit.

>>16742364

That's one of the worse from games.

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cb1e55  No.16742588

>>16742571

?

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4969f2  No.16742756

>>16742412

Good post, I feel the same way about pretty much everything you said apart from the last point about the setting. In the past few years I've played so much of so many games set in 16th-19th century Japan that I think I've kind of sickened myself of that whole period.

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a00366  No.16742758

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>>16742364

WHERE'S MY FUCKING LIGHTNING MAGIC AND MOONLIGHT PROSTHETIC MIYAZAKI? WHERE'S ALL THE OTHER LAZULITE SHIT?

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35af33  No.16742771

>>16742756

You might be right. I'm familiar with the setting and I haven't really played that many games in it. There are tired aspects about it though.

Despite that however you can at least agree that you found a fucking ton of satisfaction when you got to kill monkeys. Those fuckers are overdue for getting brutally murdered in vidya. Fuck those faggots.

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5e9a7f  No.16742785

After digging into some of their other games I really want a new Shadow Tower/King's Field style game.

It's all the dungeon crawling, exploration and rpg mechanics that I fell in love with the souls games for without the shitty

>press roll to invalidate number crunching and all other defensive options

"action gameplay" and terrible multiplayer that after 5 games is still laggy p2p bullshit so I don't give a shit what bells and whistles you fucks added to it.

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973f97  No.16742814

>>16742785

Damn right Shadow Tower Abyss is amazing.

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9bf2e3  No.16742896

>>16742412

I sort of agree. The entire poise system was also fucked, which is why bosses are the main difficulty. It's just an awful system, you either completely steam roll or it's a boss in which case it's "know the boss" and then you never fail. It leaves the game feeling like simon says more than anything.

>>16742758

Worst boss in the game right there

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079b3b  No.16742904

>Favorite Armored Core

I only ever played Armored Core 2, so I choose that I guess but I never finished it because it was just so-so

>Favorite Souls game

Dark Souls I

>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

I'll try it out.

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3ac84c  No.16742937

>>16742412

I liked Sekiro a lot but it is ultimately a shallow game. Its From's latest foray into action but they still can't fully commit to the genre so you get Sekiro. A game that does a lot of good but probably an equal amount of bad.

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1595fd  No.16742947

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

AC 2 because of the setting, and nostalgia glasses. Who wouldn't want to be one of the first settlers on Mars and uncover an extra terrestrial autonomous remote controlled army of ants, while listening to Mijk van Dijk's nice industrial techno songs? The progression, weapon armor mobility customization, amount of overpoweredness from getting secret parts, secret human+ enhancements.

Saturday mornings to AC2 and PSO1 were the best.

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39199f  No.16742951

File: 9bad8c66e1f932d⋯.webm (925.59 KB, 640x360, 16:9, Fromfag.webm)

File: 6faddc7dbdabed6⋯.png (589.81 KB, 1839x527, 1839:527, fromfags.png)

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799f78  No.16742975

>>16742951

IN NIOH TWO THERE IS GONNA BE ONI MODE

MUH FUCKING DICK

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9bf2e3  No.16742978

>>16742975

if you remember living weapon mode it's basically that but it changes your moveset a lot more. It's at least fun to dick around with if nothing else.

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3ac84c  No.16742984

>>16742951

This is painfully true. I've seen too many Fromfags that gush over the mediocrity of their games and scoff at others.

>>16742975

Sexy oni girls too.

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cb1e55  No.16742993

File: 14a4b4017bb8bc3⋯.png (175.39 KB, 257x368, 257:368, Another_Century's_Episode_….png)

Are the A.C.E. games good? I've heard they're kind of like ZoE.

>>16742951

This isn't a Soulsfag thread, anon pls

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19e6e6  No.16742998

>Favorite Arnored Core

Never played one.

>Favorite Souls game

Never played one.

>Metal Wolf Chaos DX

Nah.

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d119ab  No.16743003

AC1, the only good AC game.

>souls game

>good

fucking hillarious, OP.

I'm excited for MWC, but I probably shouldn't be.

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799f78  No.16743004

File: 20dcc0286fc2423⋯.jpg (170.58 KB, 500x459, 500:459, 1434048929345.jpg)

>>16742999

Shadow tower was better than king's field

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4969f2  No.16743008

>>16742771

That's funny, I was actually going to say the monkeys were one of the more memorable parts of it for me. For me there was something comedic about that part where you come into the snowy valley for the first time and have to the kill the 20 monkeys all sitting together.

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cb1e55  No.16743012

>>16743003

>AC1, the only good AC game.

Yeah dude, I totally rock out with repetitive levels and clunky as fuck controls!

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92c4e8  No.16743013

>>16742364

Good. Better to have a new game.

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0ed703  No.16743015

>>16742993

1,2 and 3 are good, the rest are complete garbage.

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42bbe3  No.16743494

ARMORED CORE 6 WHEN

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6d2794  No.16743515

I'd be curious as to if they might port Otogi 1 and 2 away from the original Xbox if Metal Wolf Chaos' port does well.

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42bbe3  No.16743520

File: f72c36ada7f8d86⋯.jpg (60.39 KB, 600x625, 24:25, wedding.jpg)

>Favorite Armored Core

Master of Arena, 2: Another Age, Last Raven, and 4A. V and VD are trash.

>Favorite Soyuls game

Get that Dark Soy soulscuck meme bullshit out of my fucking face.

>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

Yes but apprehensive of them fucking it up somehow.

I want Armored Core 6 to be like 4A but on PCs with more AC animations like different melee attacks, using hand to brace back mounted cannons like with Human+ in older games, swing cannons around with more flair and drama. Make it more Gundam less MechWarrior. Bring back Limiter Release, Heat mechanics, Human+. ORBIT WEAPONS. Make handguns not suck again. Give us two handed weapons, but do not limit weapon types to just one or the other. Let my AC use a two handed sniper rifle, or dual wield sniper rifles like normal. Give us a heavy 2 handed gatling gun, or a smaller arm mounted one. Give us more arm mounted weapons, too, like arm mounted machine guns, rifles, etc.

Do NOT do any of the online, multiplayer bullshit they did in V and VD. The wall jumping was dumb. The scan mode was dumb. Not being able to fly was dumb. No back weapons was dumb. Ultimate Weapons were dumb. The folding heavy weapons were dumb. The only good to come out of V and VD were the Murakumo physical sword, and the Vendetta sword arms (Which were fucked up by not having a fucking back weapon to support them with.) the support weapons like Sentry Guns, Shields, and Jammers, and the way Laser Blades were held in the hand and were partially "on" at all times.

Why did they remove Machine Guns? Gatling Guns and Machine guns were two separate things in 4 and fA. "Battle Rifles" could have just been bazookas. "Howitzers" could have just been grenade launchers.

Why did they fuck it up so goddamn much.

WHERE IS MY GODDAMNED ARMORED CORE 6

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a00366  No.16743535

File: 6ac895f7fad4bf7⋯.jpg (3.54 MB, 3860x2061, 3860:2061, 74320386_p0.jpg)

>>16743013

I would rather have a Sekiro dlc or a Sekiro 2 than GRRM's Lord of the Thrones.

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f59451  No.16743539

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>>16741922

I've never played a souls nor an armored core game before, but i'm mildly interested in the latter because i love virtual-on oratorio tangram and gundam breaker 3, which AC game is similar to those two?

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42bbe3  No.16743547

>>16743539

AC is a completely different style of mech game.

Its closer to MechWarrior than it is to Gundam Breaker or Virtual On.

I'd suggest starting with Armored Core 2, as its a well balanced game thats pretty easy to get into, the iconic Armored Core experience.

Armored Core for Answer is closer to Gundam, but that one is also way different from Armored Core 2 and a lot of folks consider it a poor example of what Armored Core is about. (They're retards, its a great game, but if you want to get into Armored Core, start with 2.)

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97c205  No.16743558

>>16741922

>>Favorite Armored Core

Never played one, never thought highly of manned machines, for sex or combat.

>>Favorite Souls game

King's Field 2>King's Field AC>Demon's Souls>King's Field 3>Dark Souls>Dark Souls 2 Scholar edition>Haven't played Dark Souls 3 or the first King's Field (Jp)

>>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

Not in the least, but I hope anons here who are excited about it are pleased with it.

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0eead8  No.16743608

File: 5c9ef64be952b81⋯.png (3.31 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Sekiro™_ Shadows Die Twice….png)

File: 86f26a3e6277e59⋯.png (4.16 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Sekiro™_ Shadows Die Twice….png)

File: 3a6f27d12204180⋯.png (2.96 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Sekiro™_ Shadows Die Twice….png)

File: 563688179e21538⋯.png (3.52 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Sekiro™_ Shadows Die Twice….png)

>>16743535

Seconded

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397d9a  No.16743612

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99afd8  No.16743626

>>16741922

>Favorite Armored Core

Anything before 4. I have no idea what in the absolute fuck they were thinking with 4, it just stopped being fun at that point. It's like the entire game was built around the Primal Armor system and they completely forgot how defense values are supposed to stand up to anything when you have 5 digits of armor but everything nukes it the second Primal Armor gets taken away.

>Favorite Souls game

Demon's. Everything after is overhyped trash save for a few good moments.

>Metal Wolf Chaos DX

As long as they don't fuck it up.

Chromehounds 2 fucking when

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7523d3  No.16743880

File: e0b9987df727842⋯.jpg (64.64 KB, 736x588, 184:147, Rune - Katia.jpg)

New Rune/Lost Kingdoms never ever.

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ac2b24  No.16743887

For those who never played armored core let me tell you nothing has come close to replacing it.

Your AC was essentially a custom built computer.

You had chips that designated how wide or long your lock on window would be, how many could be locked on, and how quickly, as well as range for them to be toggled.

Guns had a variety of fire modes, rail fire where it was essentially manual, guns that would track with lock on, drones, mines and laser swords.

Legs drastically changed what your build would be, quad legs increased load for heavier builds but reduced efficiency with swords, and made you a bigger target.

Hover had a higher power requirement.

Chicken legs had better jump and maneuver, while human based legs where the marios.

Engines and radiators had their upsides and down sides, overcharged output for core specials (sonic boost, attack drones, someother shit I forgot) weapons could overheat your mech which was aids, a good radiator could help counter but would often come with higher demands.

Seriously fuck heat weapons, why can you give a mech aids?

The games are hit and miss, but overall enjoyable 50% of the time even when they're one of the shittier versions.

The game also has a higher skill level then souls games, there are many mechanics that have only been found out a decade after the games release.

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ad8488  No.16743888

Lost Kingdoms is literally their only game I've played, or have any interest in playing.

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3ac84c  No.16743929

>>16743887

I'll need to try AC again at some point. The controls felt wrong and I couldn't get my head around them. The aiming was rough and evasion a bit hard to pull off. By all rights, I should like the games especially with all the mech customization.

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ac2b24  No.16743945

>>16743929

Everything in the game is component based, so even turning speed, lock on time and accuracy is based on components.

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afb417  No.16743950

>>16743520

I feel like Overed Weapons would work as two handed weapons mainly just for the Grind and Mega blades. But yeah V and VD were lackluster.

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eb47fa  No.16743951

File: fc421fede098300⋯.jpg (93.32 KB, 1300x951, 1300:951, businessman-man-with-hand-….jpg)

I brought a girl home last night and got too drunk to take her to the bone zone. I could sense her disappointment.

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799f78  No.16743969

File: 5f218b455170782⋯.jpg (87.51 KB, 794x782, 397:391, 1406914880197.jpg)

>>16743951

git gud, catacombs takes 2 minutes to speedrun if you ignore loot

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35af33  No.16744799

>>16743008

>For me there was something comedic about that part where you come into the snowy valley for the first time and have to the kill the 20 monkeys all sitting together

Exactly what I meant. I haven't played a game before where you commit monkey genocide. There's something satisfying on a comedic level about killing a monkey wearing a hat and holding a gun. Usually you get faggots pretending like monkey's are natures special snowflakes. Nah just stab them in the throat with a Katana unceremoniously. It's great.

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35af33  No.16744803

>>16743969

Catacombs are difficult when drunk. Lot of high risk moves you have to take which when done incorrectly, can put you on a tilt. Take it from an alcoholic anon(ymous). Shit can be tough when you aren't focused.

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fade36  No.16744811

File: a168be21f0eff9f⋯.webm (6.88 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Armored Core intro and ti….webm)

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fade36  No.16744812

File: 2dc5bf9a5495954⋯.webm (14.32 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Armored Core 2 Intro and ….webm)

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fade36  No.16744817

File: f38c7870746fcbf⋯.webm (14.01 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Armored Core 3 Intro and ….webm)

I miss when the series wasn't all Itano Circus and flying at mach 3.

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15517f  No.16744818

File: 9dd9b20839242ad⋯.jpg (123.41 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, tfw no tunak to tun.jpg)

>Ctrl+F

>Tenchu

>0 results

絶望ぜ

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6550ba  No.16744847

>>16744818

No thanks, I'd sooner let it lie dormant if Acquire won't be involved.

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15517f  No.16744941

File: 6bb7ea99ed0600f⋯.jpg (18.76 KB, 290x324, 145:162, 4ba7e1921372d47331840ca1d1….jpg)

>>16744847

They worked on the last Tenchu game, so I don't see why they wouldn't let them work on it again. Shinobido and Way of the Samurai were consistently fun, so it doesn't seem like they've lost it.

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04a915  No.16744942

>>16742896

>Worst boss in the game right there

Mechanically? yes it's just a set piece but aesthetically is gorgeous

>>16743013

But that would take years

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a00366  No.16744972

>>16744799

At least a fifth of that game is Wolf killing monkeys of one sort or another.

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3ac84c  No.16744985

>>16744818

Tenchu was never good

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15517f  No.16745000

>>16744985

Your mum was never good in bed

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3ac84c  No.16745008

File: 5c66ff75a6cd704⋯.png (851.97 KB, 979x872, 979:872, Rikiishi Upset.png)

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9bd4e3  No.16745032

Of the games I've played:

>Top Tier

>King's Field 3, Dark Souls 2

>Middle Tier

>King's Field 1, King's Field 2, Dark Souls 1

>Bottom Tier

>Dark's Souls 3, Sekiro

>>16744818

Fromsoft published the Tenchu games, they never really developed them. Acquire developed the classic Tenchu's and K2 the later ones. The only Tenchu games From did development work on were the PSP ports of San and Kurenai.

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dbc8c4  No.16745060

File: 5eb0a73c5089acd⋯.jpg (60.33 KB, 427x555, 427:555, trash man drawing.jpg)

>>16742244

>implying Fromsoft was good back in the day

TOPKEK

<muh King's Field

<muh Shadow Tower

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191607  No.16745064

What was so bad about Tenchu?

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15517f  No.16745071

File: bdaae72b01faf11⋯.jpg (7.15 KB, 231x259, 33:37, bdaae72b01faf1169a2458f6a0….jpg)

>>16745032

>they never really developed them

That's why they're my favourite FromSoft games.

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35af33  No.16746663

>>16744972

And Big Black Cocks

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35af33  No.16746664

>>16745032

>DS2

>Top Tier

Trash

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c4f7f5  No.16746673

File: cda0e1001cec670⋯.jpg (34.38 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0101.jpg)

File: e95ced0f8a13fe9⋯.jpg (42.49 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0102.jpg)

File: facfc007b903724⋯.jpg (43.11 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0103.jpg)

File: 90e0c7a566ddd86⋯.jpg (32.01 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0104.jpg)

File: ca5af35c8a97127⋯.jpg (31.68 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0105.jpg)

Lost Kingdoms is highly underrated.

There was this comic on the official Nipponese comic.

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c4f7f5  No.16746675

File: 5978672ad584ead⋯.jpg (67.37 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0201.jpg)

File: 3f73f8495963f74⋯.jpg (49.88 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0202.jpg)

File: 9a44d8920352467⋯.jpg (61.31 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0203.jpg)

File: 25e38600afe264c⋯.jpg (91.17 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0204.jpg)

File: 6182bd71c6b74f9⋯.jpg (69.4 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0301.jpg)

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c4f7f5  No.16746677

File: e409dc7893a8f9b⋯.jpg (64.54 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0302.jpg)

File: 682edeae1577d45⋯.jpg (63.62 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0303.jpg)

File: c9fc98ccef95581⋯.jpg (63.94 KB, 504x616, 9:11, r2cmc_page0304.jpg)

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c4f7f5  No.16746682

File: 03d9eb17e279bf2⋯.jpg (30.13 KB, 448x608, 14:19, 24vi24o.jpg)

File: 5d1a5a685b33675⋯.jpg (178.5 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, rune2_01b.jpg)

>>16746677

Also some official art. It really sucks that back when devs made good free wallpaper standard resolutions were tiny.

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a00366  No.16746683

File: 0b19f464d37489d⋯.jpg (48.95 KB, 820x960, 41:48, BBC.jpg)

>>16746663

Why the fuck are chickens so damn hostile in Sekiro anyway? Even Bloodborme had one enemy that didn't try to crawl up your ass on sight.

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397d9a  No.16746684

>>16745032

Bad taste.

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a00366  No.16753684

File: ae43ca10d1105ac⋯.png (4.96 MB, 1374x2425, 1374:2425, 74452277_p6.png)

Alright anons, what changes would you have made to Sekiro?

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3ac84c  No.16753741

>>16753684

Make it more like a proper action game. More combos, enemies do more, spirit emblems only for certain attacks, don't raise each level's XP but rather just put a flat amount for skills and abilities. Give tools more use than "set fire to someone" or "pull the armour off of one or two enemies". Give combat arts a big boost so they aren't almost all worthless, especially the Judgement Cut that needs a big buff.

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df32c1  No.16753757

File: 490a1b70f60650b⋯.jpg (455.76 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190801201454_1.jpg)

File: c6fe7588283bbdc⋯.jpg (412.77 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190730205850_1.jpg)

I recently played through DaS2 again with the Sotfs version being new to me and I can say that I enjoyed it more than DaS3. Well the DLC mostly. I thought 2 was annoying and pandery but holy fuck is 3 a fan service-fest. I remember wanting the DaS2 to be as far removed from DaS1 as DaS1 was from Demon's Souls but DaS3 is even closer than 2. At the end I can't say that one of the games has the ideal amalgamation package of features and it's a bit gay. Sorry for the unrelated post, I just didn't want to make a thread about this.

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3ac84c  No.16753786

>>16753757

2 had a shitty development with the director being brought in with only a year to put something together that is a Souls game. I'm sure Bandai had some input that the game had to be connected and open for a sequel so they went with the age of dark and light stuff again.

I'd like Tanamura to have another chance at making a Souls type game, all things considered he did good stuff with 2. Itsuno tried and failed to save DMC2 but then gave us DMC3, perhaps Tanamura could do the same with Souls.

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f7e6d7  No.16753928

>>16753757

Too many people shit on DaS2 when comparing to DaS1, but they mostly make the comparison by looking at the worst aspects of DaS2 vs the best of DaS1. Yes, the first half of 1 is amazing, but the second half is god awful; most of the non-DLC areas in 2 are so-so, but none of them can be considered bad. I keep trying to replay 1 every few years, but every time I meat O&S, I tend to give up because going forward means dealing with Lost Izalith and all of its bullshit, or trudging through the Catacombs and all of its tediousness, or Duke's Archives with its annoying as fuck enemies/level design, or the bullshit that is the 4kings fight. Meanwhile DaS2 has so many build options that you can just keep making new characters. While the population has been dwindling over the years, you'll still get summoned frequently in pretty much every NG area. The PvP was also much better than 1's lagstab bullshit.

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3ac84c  No.16754006

>>16753928

I actually like the Archives and Catacombs, but yes, the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith portion are real bad. A real shame DS Remastered didn't do anything to try and fix those areas. DS1 has a fantastic two thirds but a real let down of the final third.

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b3bf1c  No.16754035

DS: Prepare to Die Edition

Sekiro

Didn't even started DS2 and DS3 because I don't see the reason. I rather replay DS

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1f7d12  No.16754050

File: b6cc6553bf7e93a⋯.png (18.15 KB, 500x500, 1:1, Image User.png)

Anyone have a working magnet for DS1 Prepare to Die Edition? The ones on Pirate Bay aren't working for me

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b3bf1c  No.16754065

>>16754050

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C063CAC985CFB07B49FE23C4A433BD8C9EB3F2ED&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt3.t-ru.org%2Fann%3Fmagnet&dn=Dark%20Souls%3A%20Prepare%20to%20Die%20Edition%20%5BP%5D%20%5BRUS%20%2F%20ENG%20%2F%20MULTI9%5D%20(2012)%20(1.0.2.0)%20%5BScene%5D

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1f7d12  No.16754073

File: c1e1b3e46f2d294⋯.jpg (107.9 KB, 500x491, 500:491, the fuck you say to me pus….jpg)

>>16754065

>no peers

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7514d1  No.16754102

File: 8cd13b0c9f1bc06⋯.png (847.89 KB, 1729x942, 1729:942, 8cd13b0c9f1bc06937d2f0a2a4….png)

Nothing since dark souls has scratched the same itch that that game did, it's absolutely maddening. 2 had it's moments (shulva) but was on the whole a near complete disaster. 3 looked really good and had good boss fights, but was shallow, unambitious and safe. I realize that BB and sekhiro are pretty decent. But other developers make good action games too, I can get that particular kind of game from another source, you know? Not massive, imaginative, lovingly realized dungeon crawls carefully interspersed with safe zones and shortcuts. No one fucking makes those.

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04a915  No.16754158

>>16754102

Is there a map like that but for Sekiro?

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1f5f21  No.16754175

>>16754102

Nioh has level design that is extremely similar in style to Souls level design. The levels aren't interconnected since the game takes place all over Japan, but as far as gameplay and visual design (though obviously through a nip filter) goes, it's very similar. I would say it's even better than DeS/DaS, despite issues like random gear and recycled endgame bosses.

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df32c1  No.16754241

File: adf03f42067f88f⋯.jpg (627.3 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190801234711_1.jpg)

>>16753786

Hopefully the 'Dark Souls is done' statement means that the fire and Gwyn rigamaroo stuff is finally done and that the next one (not interested in Elden Ring at all, Gurm doesn't appeal to me) is as I mentioned before, as far removed from DaS as DaS is from DeS. Dragon's Souls or some shit. I read a somewhat scientific article examining being immortal where it explains how shitty it would be considering humans have limited disk/brain space to store information which often causes senility and poor memory in old age. Which is why I found the memory loss part of 2 interesting, shame they didn't elaborate a little more than Lucatiel. The world was interesting even if the level design was far from.

>>16753928

I only ever played DaS a couple of times so I can't really comment on the tediousness but I do prefer 2's branching linear paths over 3's one linear path with some side content. Pretty gay they removed power stance and faster UGS speed, which is strange considering it's a faster game overall. Not to mention goofy and fun weapons like the bone fist, Santier's spear, lances etc. And yeah I was surprised to get collaborations and invasions even today.

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3ac84c  No.16754313

>>16754102

I get what you're saying. There have been a bunch of Souls like games but really nothing beats DS, DeS and even BB.

>>16754175

Nioh is fantastic despite its problems, it just doesn't quite have that same feel that DS does. Still a great recommendation for people to play if they haven't already.

>>16754241

DS2 did have some cool ideas for its story and world. Originally it was going to be something about time travel, you'd go back to Majula and see the Emerald Herald as a child. Its a shame was such a mess all things considered and its why I'd like to see Tanamura get another chance some day.

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e34f40  No.16754351

File: b2b5bf757c6fcbc⋯.jpg (46.39 KB, 576x576, 1:1, 63aadbb6f4b45b6780714321f9….jpg)

>>16744818

>sekiro was going to be a new tenchu before miyazaki picked it up

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4f97a5  No.16754474

>>16753684

I just want the last area to be a bit longer and I want to actually meet tomoe; I want that lightning power upgrade for my attacks

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410ce0  No.16754606

File: cc48df01074099b⋯.jpg (42.93 KB, 452x452, 1:1, Despair.jpg)

SIXTH ARCHSTONE NEVER EVER

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bed4fd  No.16754893

Hyped for the XD

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9bf2e3  No.16755138

>>16753684

Remove the poise system, rework basically all the tools so they're actually useful, remove the god awful parry system, and either go full RPG or Full Action. Not this god awful mix of both where you're just left with this extremely shallow combat.

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b3bf1c  No.16755228

Nioh is better than Souls and Sekiro.

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cd1501  No.16755283

>>16743520

I honestly hated the defense/weapon system so much more.The bullet drop off, and ballistic weapons losing damage over distance was good, but the fact that your customization was more about defense balancing annoyed the fuck out of me. It felt exceptionally limiting, and then you add in the fact that you need to do the same with weapons because you are going to need to ensure you have every type of weapon for different enemies or they won't take jack shit for damage. This becomes exceptionally frustrating when the weapon changes mean that every weapon type plays very differently and fuck you if you absolutely hate all the weapons of one type, you may still need it.

>>16743887

Quads, in the PS2 games as far as I remember, made your swords stab instead of slash; same with tank legs. It made attacks with it hard to use, but they did two or three times the damage, so if you did land them, it was a big deal. That is also more describing tank legs. Quads, again in the PS2 games, were one of the land based mobility choices; the other was hover legs. I don't remember what the ideal form of dodging for the quads was, but I remember hover legs were about starting to dash in a different direction a second or two after you stopped dashing. Quads might have been similar, but its been so long that I don't remember.

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7614ee  No.16755324

File: d71d0ada0ccd6d3⋯.jpg (207.31 KB, 1280x1667, 1280:1667, DeS love story.jpg)

>>16754606

It hurts.

It hurts even more when you find out that most of the assets for it had been completed and only needed to be placed on the map.

>>16755180

Demon ruins were all right.

Izalith wasn't great, but it got the job done.

It's supposed to be a warped, twisted mess.

BoC is cancer though.

The area leading up to Izalith with the dragon butts was the real irredeemable shit.

What I absolutely didn't like which I never heard anyone mention were hidden areas like the dragon lake below the tree trunk, the painted world and the asylum.

And entering the Abyss was also done terribly. Who the hell would think to go get some pendant in an end game area only to come back to a mid/early part and kill some golem then restart the game (or move out of the area and then come back)?

There's a difference between having neat, hidden stuff you are rewarded with for exploring and following clues the game gives you and just outright having occult puzzles that withhold much of the content from you.

Imagine picking DaS up 15 years from now and not knowing about any of this. Would your first instinct be to look up a guide when playing a game for the first time?

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952a6b  No.16756371

>>16755324

Silly gaijin, the Valley of Defilement with identical bosses, reskinned enemies and padded level design needed the dev time more than the furry archstone.

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a00366  No.16756428

File: fbb310535cadeeb⋯.jpg (936.83 KB, 1000x1308, 250:327, 74618015_p0.jpg)

>>16755138

>>16753741

I was thinking along some similar lines.

Basic changes:

>Spirit emblem cost

>sort of follow the Bloodborne pattern.

>only cost emblems if an attack fires a projectile or an energy blade or something, that would solve a lot of issues right there

>Prosthetics

>Related to the previous point. Make melee prosthetics still function without emblems. Just disable the bonus weapon buffs if you have no emblems. In other words you could still use axe/Sabimaru/spear/umbrella but no fire/poison/projected force/lazulite aura if your emblems run dry.

>Additionally the mist raven needs to be totally reworked and just function like a 30 second buff like how the old hunters bone worked in BB

>all shuriken types should only cost one emblem

>Other stuff

>the tanto should have unlimited uses instead of just 3 at a time

>there really needs to be more than 3 ninjutsu and the cost should be reduced to at most 5 emblems

>a basic gun would be nice. Make it a prosthetic if nothing else

>bombs too

>either some more buff items or strategically plant more weak enemies around to be able to use bestowal on

>actually make dragon rot have some point

>give real rewards to the compleation of NPC questlines not the placeholder shit that we have

Bigger changes:

>make the skill trees function like covenants/oaths, give some sort of bonus if you stick to a particular skill tree Might require reshuffling passives or just to make it work

>implement something like the small white soapstone summoning from DS2

>for take away the summoned player's prosthetic, grapple, and resurrections and lock whatever special attack/ninjutsu while they re summoned

>maybe make them summon as a ghost since those are already in the game

>or make their appearance based on what skill tree they have set (Ashina: samurai, prosthetic: monkey, shinobi: "badger", senpo: monk)

>disallow co-op in some or all boss fights, certainly in any or the duel fights

>>16754474

>I just want the last area to be a bit longer and I want to actually meet tomoe; I want that lightning power upgrade for my attacks

Absolutly. We may yet get something like this. They've not yet officially made any statement on DLC so there's still some hope.

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4f97a5  No.16756535

>>16755138

>god awful parry system

>remove poise

>remove the two functional parts of the game that distinguish it from literally every other game on the market of its kind right now

literally why

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4cfb77  No.16756545

>Try DS1 because there were a few mods I wanted to go for

>remember it has no diagonal rolling or dodging

I can't believe I forgot how such a small thing can make a game feel so off to play.

How's Sekiro after the big white baboon with the insanely finicky grab hitbox? Does it add anything new to the combat or are the Ashina moves still going to be the most fleshed out of the combat arts?

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4f97a5  No.16756553

>>16756545

>finicky grab hitbox

you literally just don't dodge INTO the grab, the hitbox will not register if you go to the other side or jump or roll backwards. I feel like sekiro threw more people for a loop than even dark souls could, but maybe it's just going through its initial phases of trash scrubs not gitting gud.

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b3bf1c  No.16756557

File: c6076fc65cf811e⋯.webm (8.86 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Metal Gear Rising Reveng….webm)

>>16756535

MGR has similiar parry system only it works much better. In Sekiro everyone just spam R1 button to parry in MGR you need perfect timing.

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4f97a5  No.16756560

>>16756557

>everyone just spam R1

yeah, in DMC 3, 4, and 5 you can do the same thing for royal guard, but it actually gives you better results to learn the timing.

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032b4d  No.16756562

>>16756560

the DMC games are a bit easier since you can make royal guard way easier with jumps and rolls, eitherway MGR isn't even perfect timing, the window is huge.

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afd8ed  No.16756566

>>16756557

I’ve always thought the parry system in it terrible because half the time it doesn’t even block with the input. It feels very imprecise. That may just be my shitty controller, though.

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2c257f  No.16756816

>>16756553

Here's the thing, I'm fairly sure I always dodged away from the grab, I've had troubles with every grab in the game for some reason

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6f1f65  No.16756858

File: 845644aace20b7c⋯.png (1.81 MB, 800x8000, 1:10, 1462711365973-0.png)

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9bf2e3  No.16756925

>>16756535

because poise adds literally nothing to the game. At best it gives enemies regenerating HP, at worst it does absolutely nothing and you just wail on the demons. Even then if you sit there parrying, it doesn't even punish you because parries don't break your poise. It just punishes you for blocking that the game already punishes you for. A lot of tools do flat hp damage, making them extremely situational at best because the best ways to deal with enemies is just to "poise break glory kill". Situational being the key word because from in it's infinite wisdom doesn't even keep tool effects consistent. I could basically complain about tools all day and it all boils down to poise being massively invasive but horribly implemented. It hurts the game just by existing.

The parrying system is just done extremely poorly and has absolutely no risk associated with it, "did you try to parry and fail well you took damage" "You block you take damage" "you mash parry the window is slightly reduced". The game isn't intended for dodging, shown by multiple boss AI's flat out breaking by spamming dodge attacks, or the ever popular owl backflip loop you can do by not locking on. So you're left with "parry because from either punishes you or didn't program the AI to handle your plan".

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04a915  No.16757049

>>16756557

maybe it because of the controls but i found MGR parrying extremely annoying and Sekiro's really goo, Sekiro only needs a smaller parry window or have the option of doing a charmless run from the get go

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5fbd9e  No.16757137

File: bc3dec053ad7f9c⋯.jpg (2.37 MB, 6160x3530, 616:353, metal-wolf-chaos-xd-e3-201….jpg)

>>16741922

>>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

That would be a fair assessment.

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b3bf1c  No.16757663

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

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e7c20b  No.16758307

>>16741922

>>Favorite Armored Core

never played one I think

>>Favorite Souls game

Dark souls 1, 3 was better gameplay wise but the feel I got from 1 was always so much more oppressive? maybe? I don't know how to explain it but it's like 1 is just the best game because it feels a lot less shoddy.

>>Are you somewhat excited for Metal Wolf Chaos DX?

who

>>16742186

To be fair it was said that From had gotten bored over the formula which is why Sekiro was so different. To be fair it's extremely similar but it's distinct. All I want is from to go make a game like Dark souls 1 again. 1 was my favorite. I was never able to play Demon souls because >ps3

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