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6b5551  No.16741150

I'm about to play this for the first time and I just wanted to know are there any mods that make the stealth and combat more difficult and deadly with out going overboard? I've seen some gameplay but I can't help but feel it's too easy, I want my first time to be rough and for me to feel like I earned my victories and any mod recommendations that does will fell greatly appreciated

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6b5551  No.16741151

Also forgot to put in the OP that it can be a general Metal Gear thread as well

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a91a88  No.16741153

Infinite Heaven, it allows to change a shitload of stuff and most of it is to taste. Get it off nexus, you can use it on pirated copies just by changing the game's folder to 'MGS_TPP' instead of whatever you named it.

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6b5551  No.16741160

File: 21ea78501aabaca⋯.jpg (657.97 KB, 1120x1600, 7:10, 1519954405192.jpg)

>>16741153

Wow that was fast, Thank you very much anon

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a91a88  No.16741166

>>16741160

Just be aware that it's gonna make the game a drag if you set the sight/hearing scale too high. I'm playing it at around %300 and it gets pretty boring sometimes, just sitting around waiting for a guard to go by so that I can crouch walk because you can't even jog, but it does become pretty tense, specially going OSP into a rescue mission or something with helicopters flying around, tanks/IFVs patrolling and nicely equipped soldiers guarding the area.

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5e63ee  No.16741170

>>16741150

Don't worry. It's a pretty good game. Damn good, actually. It ranks better than MGS 2, 4, and 1, but it isn't quite as good as 3.

>I want my first time to be rough

:^)

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b50105  No.16741184

File: 58e879b169347c8⋯.png (1.18 MB, 998x883, 998:883, snake and vamp mainline me….png)

The real shame is that MGS4 customized would be peak top-tier feel (1st/3rd person with the right amount of stealth) for the whole universe without any of the POZ that Kojimbo finds attractive and amusing. I honestly returned MGSV because it felt far too much like BF4. How would you port it to PC though?

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86d2be  No.16741190

Just play it as it was intended… It wasn't finished so it wasn't intended to be played.

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6cdfbd  No.16741220

File: 9506c1bbe88f909⋯.png (190.94 KB, 419x398, 419:398, 67.png)

>>16741184

> felt far too much like BF4

What?

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3d1aed  No.16741244

>>16741150

Don't use mods the first time you play a game, retard.

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5c3956  No.16741260

>>16741244

>Silent Storm - No PanzerKleins

>any Witcher and the Combat Rebalance Mod

>Doom 2016 - Weapons Mod(removes glory kills)

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6cdfbd  No.16741268

File: c606ace6cf95925⋯.png (4.01 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, MGSV2.png)

File: 2dd0e07a67e21b3⋯.png (4.28 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, MGSV3.png)

Reminder to use the best mod. Keep in mind however that the guy who made is a lazy faggot and forgot to make it work for your DD troops, it only works on Snake, your troops will instead keep the default game camo.

https://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/777

Unfortunately I took these screenshots before that mod was made.

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78f3b3  No.16741341

File: d9628314b798678⋯.jpg (29.21 KB, 716x403, 716:403, MGS4BETA06.jpg)

File: 84dd4e827e060bd⋯.jpg (24.04 KB, 716x403, 716:403, MGS4BETA08.jpg)

>>16741184

>How would you port it to PC though?

Grab a model, do the animations, then implement it in game, test out stairs, ledge hanging, hiding under something,etc then work on the AI and items/weapons. Then you could add in the levels. I wouldnt bother with the cutscenes.

It would be better off to make your own game and use similar mechanics from MGS4 rather than deal with kikenami or MGS3 fags crying over how you didnt port MGS3 instead.

Can konami even fuck you over if you use the similar mechanics of MGS4?

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a91a88  No.16741370

>>16741341

>Can konami even fuck you over if you use the similar mechanics of MGS4?

I don't think so, unless it's straight up plagiarizing something of the game. But you never know how hard they can jew, so I'm not really sure.

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9d64fa  No.16741411

dont go in with any gear. i know its not a good idea to ignore most of the gear and dishonoured had the same issue but subsistence is the only way to have even a little bit of challenge. Never take the tranq gun, its for for baby tier casuals.

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5e2a41  No.16742291

>>16741150

Why people even hate MGSV? It was first time kojima threw away cutscene amount for gameplay.

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97ff01  No.16742311

>>16741341

>Can konami even fuck you over if you use the similar mechanics of MGS4?

Yes and no. They probably made patents for it, and the game isn't 20 years old yet, so they might still take you to court over it.

>>16742291

Repetition of empty gameplay, and poor conclusion. People don't hate the cutscenes and story, they hate bad cutscenes and story. The few cutscenes V had, weren't that good anyways, so there's nothing saving it.

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c0b6a1  No.16742312

>>16742291

Because the gameplay is dogshit, level design is nonexistent, story is still retarded, plot twist doesn't make any fucking sense because of self-contradicting timelines and events

There's less technical features than in a PSP game.

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d079cc  No.16742319

>>16742312

The gameplay was the best in the series you dumb nigger.

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c0b6a1  No.16742322

>>16742319

Even survive has better gameplay than the phantom stain.

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6cdfbd  No.16742332

File: 721773697ccc0db⋯.jpg (145.66 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, bait.jpg)

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6b5551  No.16742370

>>16741244

From the view videos of gameplay I saw, stealth looked a little to easy, so I wanted to ramp it up a little since this supposed to be a stealth game right?

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6cdfbd  No.16742375

>>16742370

early-game most guards are low level retards with shitty cones of vision and reactions to things happening around them. A-rank guards and higher are good though

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d64d74  No.16742381

>>16741150

> I've seen some gameplay but I can't help but feel it's too easy,

Been playing it for the first time the last week and it is easy as fuck, wish it was more like GZ, guards weren't blind in that one

>>16741153

>Infinite Heaven

dope

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78f3b3  No.16742383

File: c569ac11dcde144⋯.jpg (28.93 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Pliskin.jpg)

>>16742291

>Why people even hate MGSV?

Short answer

>no content

>you dont even play as big boss

>the game is unfinished

>majority of the main missions suck ass and are just repeats of the same mission with parameter added

>despite being the biggest MGS game, its completely empty and shallow, feeling much smaller than even peace walker

>enemies suck, their AI sucks and they arent that much of a threat

>only see helicopters, tanks and APCs during main missions or at some side ops

>least weapon variety out of all the MGS games, most of them are useless in favor of the tranq and all the stocks/barrels/magazines/scopes,etc are useless and do nothing

>most of the games story is conveyed through tapes, meaning snake almost never talks in game or in cutscene

>despite XOF being the main evil bad guy force you only see them 3 times in the entire game and they dont appear anywhere else

>buddy system that blows ass and makes the game even easier

>stealth is made extremely easy now that you can just mark everyone and see them through walls at all times

>items and gadgets are completely useless

>you get a shit camo selection with no camo index to tell you if they're actually working

>skulls being shitty minibosses that only appear in missions

>no indoor enviroments to sneak around in

>almost no cameras in the game

>you have to unlock everything, wasting time on waiting for a slight upgrade to a gun you already have instead of finding a new gun or getting a drop from a boss that you took down non-lethally

>there arent many bosses in the game and you dont get anything for killing them non lethally

>volgin gets brought back for a mission or two then dies in some side op, you dont get some cool unlockable from MGS3 for killing him

>content that was from MGS3 is a DLC instead of an unlockable

>you dont get a suit for beating the game instead its DLC

>FOB shit

>FOB has exclusive content you cant use in the main game

>only time the game is somewhat challenging is FOB

>you never see kaz or ocelot outside of a few cutscenes, you cant even call them on the codec

>mechanics are a downgrade from MGS4 in everyway

>MGO3 was dogshit that died after a week

>no coop

>long boring helicopter rides with HIDEO KOJIMA slapped on the screen at every chance he gets

>all the character customisation is locked to multiplayer

>no secret content from previous MGS games except for the shit that was already in ground zeroes

>doesnt feel like an MGS game, more like someones unreal engine 4 fanfic project

>the game has no ending

>the game doesnt end with you playing as solid snake killing venom snake in an epic boss battle

>the entire game was made only to give a reason as to how big boss escaped the explosion at outer heaven

The game killed the series, konami could never bring it back, especially after survive. dont forget Kojima spent most of the budget on Kiefer, joost feet and 80s music.

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6cdfbd  No.16742391

>>16742381

>guards weren't blind in that one

They were. The only difference is that in GZ you're wearing a suit with 0% camo rating and your weapons are shit-tier with limited ammo too. GZ guards have no difference with TPP. Shit, A+ guards in TPP are way better than GZ's grunts.

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c0b6a1  No.16742392

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16742383

>>majority of the main missions suck ass and are just repeats of the same mission with parameter added

There are murata extraction missions, and there are cinematic kojima missions where you airdrop in 2 kilometers away from your goal and have a cutscene at the end.

>>16742383

>dont forget Kojima spent most of the budget on Kiefer, joost feet and 80s music.

Also spend more than reasonable amount of money on 6 million dollar man whoosh sound.

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6cdfbd  No.16742398

>>16742383

Most of the said you said is false

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bc3057  No.16742406

File: 540bc46ef9f392b⋯.png (17.28 KB, 192x255, 64:85, 3806df932c6fa5f0da606b898f….png)

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d64d74  No.16742407

>>16742391

Really? it really felt like they saw me from a longer distance when compared to TPP, mind you in TPP i'm using the sneaking suit that's also all black and even during the day guards take a few seconds to notice me a few meters away from them.

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6cdfbd  No.16742411

>>16742407

> in TPP i'm using the sneaking suit that's also all black and even during the day guards take a few seconds to notice me a few meters away from them.

What's their rank?

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d64d74  No.16742413

>>16742411

probably rather low, i didn't know that had an effect. Even so it's pretty dumb to have a guard look suspiciously in my direction when i'm just 5 meters from them and aiming a gun at them. even a complete retard would know to shoot first and ask questions later.

I just got to Africa and i'm seeing more A ranks, so does the game get harder or do i really need the mod?

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78f3b3  No.16742415

>>16742398

lol faggot

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78f3b3  No.16742423

>>16742413

it doesnt, only SS++ actuallly spots you quicker and you dont see S soldiers in the main game, only FOB

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6cdfbd  No.16742425

>>16742406

1. AI is actually really good. Any better and it would be too annoying to play. This is MGS, not some kind of military sim. Compared to the AI in other mgs and other games, it is the best.

2. The only MGS game with better weapon variety is PW. Stocks, barrels, grips and mags all have a great effect on a weapon's ballistics.

3. Items and gadgets are extremely useful, only retards who never got good don't use them. They're a must in FOBs too.

4. Camo selection is fine, no need for baby-tier index to tell you if your dessert camo is effective on sand either.

5. There are a few indoor areas, most notably the mansion in africa

6. There are cameras in main bases, unless you send your troops to sabotage them

7. You get a higher score for taking out bosses undetected

8. You get a horse cosmetic and tapes for taking out volgin

9. FOB's only exclusive content is completely pvp-oriented, no need to have it in the singleplayer

10. Every mechanic is superior to MGS4's

11. You can customize your phantom in singleplayer too

Everything else he said is either personal opinions, bitching and, rarely, true

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c0b6a1  No.16742428

>>16742425

>10. Every mechanic is superior to MGS4's

yeah, except calibers don't matter, only damage values

Throwing doesn't reduce your camo index

Weapon size doesn't affect camo index either.

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6cdfbd  No.16742429

>>16742413

>5 meters

Impossible. You get automatically detected at 10m even in sneaking mode

>>16742423

Every tank higher than E has better cone of vision, quicker reflexes, more health, better aim and better reactions to noises and stuff happening around them. S-rank soldiers are in the singleplayer, even in free-roam but mostly in late-game. You can add S++ with mods.

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e9862c  No.16742443

Play the game without using the tranq pistol, d-dog and quiet. There, I just multiplied the difficulty by 10.

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d64d74  No.16742447

>>16742429

>Impossible. You get automatically detected at 10m even in sneaking mode

Do you mean suspicious? sure they get suspicious from far enough but from that to shooting at me it takes too long

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6cdfbd  No.16742449

>>16742447

10m is insta-detection.

60-70m for walking gets them suspicious. 40-50 for crouching. 20m for going prone.

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d64d74  No.16742453

>>16742449

Again, by detection you mean they see something suspicious or outright combat alert?

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bc3057  No.16742463

>>16741150

If you want to increase the difficulty, don't use your partners in missions and disable reflex mode.

>>16742425

One of the things that he said was true was the overworld was fucking empty. I don't know why Kojima was thinking when he wanted chase the open world meme since Metal Gear was always a linear game that worked well. Including that some of the missions are repetitive with nothing surprising with a few exceptions like the SKULLS and lack of bosses.

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6cdfbd  No.16742467

>>16742453

detection = combat alert

suspicion = self-explanatory

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d64d74  No.16742469

>>16742467

Then i want to play the game you're playing because my NPCs blind and retarded in comparison.

>>16742463

>reflex mode.

But it makes me feel cool

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e9862c  No.16742471

>>16741150

Forgot to add, for the love of God, disable reflex mode. It's a complete retard crutch and you can get the cool slow mo with consumable gadgets too, if you really want it.

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6cdfbd  No.16742472

>>16742469

>my NPCs blind and retarded in comparison.

Then you're early-game

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6b5551  No.16742476

>>16742463

>If you want to increase the difficulty, don't use your partners in missions and disable reflex mode.

Okay, I'll pull a Rhodesia and go alone with pride

>>16742471

I'm guessing it's some sort of slow-mo effect?

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d64d74  No.16742478

>>16742471

>you can get the cool slow mo with consumable gadgets too, if you really want it.

How?

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e9862c  No.16742481

>>16742478

Develop Acceleramin.

>>16742476

>I'm guessing it's some sort of slow-mo effect?

Yes

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78f3b3  No.16742484

>>16742429

the increase in abilities is so small it isnt noticeable untill it reaches SS+

>>16742453

combat alert

>>16742425

>the AI sucks, the worst of any MGS game

>every other MGS game featured much more weapons than MGSV, weapon customisation in MGSV doesnt do anything except for the scopes and silencers

>items and gadgets are completely useless

>there are multiple enviroments within the dessert, it isnt just sand

>shitty mansion and the hospital are the only decent sized indoor area

>there are no cameras except for camp omega and FOB, i never sent troops out for cameras yet they never appeared

>I said non-lethal not undetected you kike, score doesnt mean shit

>a horse cosmetic that doesnt do anything and more shitty tapes, why couldnt we get something better?

<defending keeping content locked behind multiplayer

>the mechanics are vastly inferior to MGS4s mechanics in every way

>you cant customise shit in singleplayer, a sneaking suit, a bandana or a combat suit is shit compared to the stuff you can have in multiplayer

why are you THIS much of a disingenuous kike?

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95021f  No.16742510

File: a12289fbacb2825⋯.png (138.77 KB, 1192x673, 1192:673, MGSV_Hot_Garbage.PNG)

>>16742383

saved a screenshot, thanks for the insight

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6cdfbd  No.16742521

>>16742484

>SS+

I have 437 hours in the game. What the fuck is a 'SS+' ? Its S, S+ and S++. The differences between them are huge.

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e45906  No.16742528

>>16742484

S and especially SS+ rank soldiers start to check underneath things for prone crawling people.

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78f3b3  No.16742540

>>16742521

I couldnt remember if it was the double S or double +

>difference between them are huge

Blatantly lying right there

>>16742510

Fuck off faggot, screencaps are shit and used as a copout for people that dont have their own opinions, you couldnt even save it with the Tomorrow theme?

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bf26c5  No.16742546

>>16742510

Finally, a way for people to stop having original thoughts and parade around the views of some faggot in order to kill discussion.

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e9862c  No.16742549

>>16742510

>screencapping your own post in incoginto mode

Very clever.

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73dc24  No.16742557

>>16742484

>the worst of any MGS game

Bullshit, AI in the PO and PW were worse.

>weapon customization doesn't do anything

Out and out lie. Underbarrel attachments can give you a shotty or a grenade for free, and mag changes can make the gun more powerful by changing the caliber.

>items and gadgets are completely useless

Nigger there are a shit ton jewtube videos on clever item use.

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78f3b3  No.16742593

File: 7606517fb8813b7⋯.jpg (211.88 KB, 1335x2000, 267:400, Cringe..jpg)

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bc3057  No.16742635

>>16742484

>>every other MGS game featured much more weapons than MGSV, weapon customisation in MGSV doesnt do anything except for the scopes and silencers

Nigger you can customize the magazines for more ammo capacity, barrels for penetrations, and an underbarrel for grenade launchers.

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cfa737  No.16742643

File: 3c0fa8211d77be2⋯.jpg (936.02 KB, 2048x2048, 1:1, 3c0fa8211d77be20bd7e275dee….jpg)

>>16741184

>mfw i miss MGO2s customization

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78f3b3  No.16742672

>>16742635

>barrels for penetration

you can change the mags (on a very select few guns) to increase penetration

>grenade launchers

that suck ass and is only usefull if you get the non lethal launcher

>more ammo capacity

or reload speed for some guns, you dont even need much ammo with the 5 enemies on screen at all times

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befe0d  No.16742685

>>16742484

>>16742593

Compelling Arguments from folks who aren’t Fags

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78f3b3  No.16742697

>>16742685

>le arguments

there is no arguments, im stating facts

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befe0d  No.16742715

>>16742697

You aren’t stating facts, if you were, you would admit you’re a knuckledragging cocksucker that needs to put a bullet into his dome.

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4c2b2a  No.16742737

>>16742383

>joost feet

Money well spent.

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78f3b3  No.16742824

>>16742787

which ghost recon are you talking about?

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928b8d  No.16743972

MGSV has a lot of flaws but to say its AI is bad and that all the gear you can use is useless is wrong. If you just play with the tranq pistol and try to perfect stealth everything then of course it will get boring. The gear is meant to be explored and used, not doing so denies you so much. It could obviously be better, but blame Kojima for being obsessed with his non-lethal good boy ranking system which discourages the more fun stuff.

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df72a1  No.16744014

>>16741153

Does it work if the version of the game is 1.15? thats the latest torrent ive been able to find.

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78f3b3  No.16744157

>>16743972

>THE GEAR IS MEANT TO BE EXPLORED!!!!

highly unlikely since every other MGS game penalises you for using anything but the tranq, i run and gunned through all the MGS games and MGS4 is the hardest one to do it in because of the vomiting.

>if you stick with non lethal its going to get boring bro

how is shooting someone in the head with a bootleg FAL any better than doing it with the tranq?

<inb4 helmets

I use the armor piercing pistol all the time, but for some reason it doesnt work on riot suited goys.

>blame kojima for the nonlethal good boy ranking system

Non-lethal doesnt matter for ranking, you can complete the level really quick going full alert and still get an S.

And I will blame kojima for the non lethal shit, how else are you supposed to progress through the game without fultoning soldiers? did you play the entire game using the base weapons and not research anything?

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38aa57  No.16744258

>>16744157

>highly unlikely since every other MGS game penalises you for using anything but the tranq

This is a problem with stealth games in general. Only game that does a somewhat good job with it is Hi™an since the levels are open and built around replayability.

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10b782  No.16744275

>>16742392

I also wonder if it was in part of a massive "fuck you" to konami before they kicked him out the door. The character assassination and plot destruction definitely seemed like an attempt to prevent konami from doing anything with the series thereafter. I mean, Survive was a bust as far as I could tell, and looked and felt like a cheap cash in on something that could have been included into the base game as a replacement for the FOB system in terms of side content.

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78f3b3  No.16744515

File: 81e64d1387ff8b5⋯.jpg (127.32 KB, 1280x719, 1280:719, MGS3make.jpg)

>>16744264

>playing an ubishit mutilated corpse of a series

>>16744275

It was only a fuck you to the fans who wanted another MGS game but with more gameplay than codec/cutscenes this time.

>character assassination

Big boss was always an autistic asshole

>plot destruction

The story wasnt even finished

>prevent konami from doing anything with the series thereafter

they could do anything they want with the series, like ports of MGS4, MGS3 or the handheld exclusive games, they could have made an MGS game with content from all previous games, MG1 and 2 remakes,etc.

>Survive was a bust as far as I could tell

It was a complete and total failure thats playerbase of 10 people died after a week, kinda shit when you cant play a coop game with other people.

It would be best for people to just make their own MGS game, since konami will just sit on pachinko or make another shit game or have a crossover with one of their other titles

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8845a3  No.16744544

>>16744264

I actually really like Wildlands. It's a good stealth game when you turn the difficulty up and turn HUD off.

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6b5551  No.16744898

Found the problem and PM'd myself the fix :), but really though now that I got it working I'm gonna start over since I wasn't even finished with the hospital yet

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78f3b3  No.16744937

>>16744898

WOAH there buddy! dont necrosage a thread that hasnt had a post in 3 hours.

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6b5551  No.16744951

>>16744937

Nah, I posted multiple times and then deleted the rest since my post didn't add anything to the thread

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81a0c6  No.16744980

>>16742383

MGSV was "unfinished", and yet I put more hours into it and it still had more content than most "finished" games. Funny how that works. Funny how that works.

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f11708  No.16744987

File: eb7d19a50e0b207⋯.png (227.69 KB, 416x212, 104:53, mgs_miller_hader_muppet.PNG)

>>16744515

>that image

I_want_to_believe.bmp

We had some good posts like half a year ago or so with anons wildly speculating on vast conspiracies and ruses involving MGS, Konami, Kojima, and DS. I think even the Dorito Pope was implicated in some way or another. Wasn't there something about a company that was signed on to make a game or two and the rumour was they were going to be doing a remake using the FOX engine?

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78f3b3  No.16745021

>>16744980

so you find it funny how you played a shit unfinished game for many hours because of your buyers remorse?

>>16744987

People where saying shit about an MGS remake in the fox engine that will release as a tie in to the MGS movie

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8d7e2f  No.16745065

>>16741260

>needing combat rebalance for witcher 1 and 2

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74bf00  No.16745098

File: 37e38ea477e3374⋯.webm (2.46 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, joosten.webm)

MGSV is the best metal gear.

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6cdfbd  No.16745443

File: 4ec689a539e9073⋯.png (127.99 KB, 1018x919, 1018:919, just to suffer.png)

>>16745098

>there are absurd-res >8K photoscans of Joosten's feet in some Konami HDD and we will never get access to it

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286693  No.16745469

>>16742546

>>16742540

>>16742549

Oy vey, people have a way to counter my pro-MGSV shilling in an easily postable form now! Shut it down!

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6cdfbd  No.16745473

>>16745469

>if you like a game you are a shill

Shit my bad, for a moment I thought I was posting on /v/ideo games. I probably entered some other board.

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286693  No.16745475

>>16745473

MGSV is pure shit, so there can be no other supposition.

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6cdfbd  No.16745481

>>16745475

>ugh what u like is shit cuz i say so ok.

At last I truly see. I will now stop enjoying MGSV because you told me to.

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286693  No.16745485

>>16745481

I mean, you could've attempted to discredit anything that screencap said, but instead, you decided to just kvetch.

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6cdfbd  No.16745494

>>16745485

>you could've attempted to discredit anything that screencap said, but instead, you decided to just kvetch.

I discredited most of it, but you're a cuckchanner you cannot read

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286693  No.16745500

>>16745494

All right, lemme find it.

>first sentence is literally "nuh-uh, it's ACTUALLY good"

Into the trash.

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6cdfbd  No.16745502

>>16745500

>cuckchanner can't read

sage negated

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286693  No.16745508

>>16745502

1. AI is actually really good. Any better and it would be too annoying to play. This is MGS, not some kind of military sim. Compared to the AI in other mgs and other games, it is the best.

It's not

2. The only MGS game with better weapon variety is PW. Stocks, barrels, grips and mags all have a great effect on a weapon's ballistics.

3. Items and gadgets are extremely useful, only retards who never got good don't use them. They're a must in FOBs too.

4. Camo selection is fine, no need for baby-tier index to tell you if your dessert camo is effective on sand either.

5. There are a few indoor areas, most notably the mansion in africa

6. There are cameras in main bases, unless you send your troops to sabotage them

7. You get a higher score for taking out bosses undetected

8. You get a horse cosmetic and tapes for taking out volgin

9. FOB's only exclusive content is completely pvp-oriented, no need to have it in the singleplayer

10. Every mechanic is superior to MGS4's

11. You can customize your phantom in singleplayer too

Everything else he said is either personal opinions, bitching and, rarely, true

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286693  No.16745512

>>16745508

Didn't mean to post that. If you could quantify how you think the AI is 'better' than the other MGS games, that would help.

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058edd  No.16745518

File: fe22133e2ed7a29⋯.jpg (2.19 MB, 1156x1600, 289:400, Salaryman Gangbang.jpg)

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6cdfbd  No.16745519

>>16745512

maybe if you weren't a cuckchanner you would read my other posts too

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286693  No.16745524

>>16745519

I have read your other posts. I need to know how you quantify the AI being better before we continue.

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286693  No.16745529

>>16745524

For example, you extol the virtues of the MGSV AI, without even touching upon the other games' AIs. And you just go and say it's better without any explanation.

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36e21b  No.16745567

>>16745508

FOB content being only pvp-oriented is bullshit though, you can only get the best soldiers from FOB missions, storage is limited offline or without FOBs, FOBs is an always online mode in which you can get attacked over and over again until being depleted of resources and soldiers, ALSO more than half of the research content is barred from offline mode so you either mod researchs in or play without more than half contents worth of weapons and weapon customizations.

Also quiet just fucking off with no warning is bullshit since you spend a lot of resources upgrading her and the gear walker sucks ass. Also you get teased a tank gear that you never see and is relegated to the shitty "send your soldiers in with a timer" missions.

MGSV did some stuff right but there are a LOT of wrongs too, kojima having to waste my time every time you get into a mission or motherbase being an absolute cancer to traverse at any point of the game made me want to shoot myself whenever I had to spend time there.

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0dc1db  No.16745588

Why did Kojima ditch proper bosses after 4 anyway? Did anyone have fun encountering the copypasted skulls over and over again?

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17eeca  No.16745597

File: 88449ad325ee8dd⋯.jpg (104.91 KB, 1498x1000, 749:500, 88449ad325ee8dd023426510ac….jpg)

>>16745588

I liked the Skulls, especially the sexy female sniper ones, but would have traded them in a heartbeat for another Laughing Octopus or Crying Wolf

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058edd  No.16745614

>>16745567

Some time after release they actually let you get Quiet back if you replay her mission like 5 or 7 times. Something like that.

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058edd  No.16745626

>>16745614

oh also mother base had quick travel if you used a box at the little yellow cargo loading zone but that wasn't very obvious. Just one of those things autists find by trying everything in an area.

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17eeca  No.16745666

>>16745626

>wasn't very obvious

Every time you unlocked a new loading zone thing it would mention it.

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058edd  No.16745686

>>16745666

Wow really? Never saw that. I didn't even know it was a thing till after I beat that game and watched one of those "top things you don't know about (insert game here) videos". I assume the text was a later addition as well cause I usually always read loading screen text and shit like that.

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286693  No.16745696

>>16745567

I accidentally quoted someone else. You're dumb.

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bd5c94  No.16746826

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16745666

They also show it in this gameplay video from before the release.

It's around 27:17

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6cdfbd  No.16747073

>>16745567

>FOBs is an always online mode in which you can get attacked over and over again until being depleted of resources and soldiers

You only lose online unprocessed resources, not offline processed ones (the only ones that actually matter). And the only soldiers you lose are the ones from the security team. Also, if you get attacked your FOB will be blockaded for a week, nobody will be able to attack it.

You can get Quiet back too by replaying her bossfight mission 6-7 times.

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22252c  No.16747091

>>16744014

There are multiple versions of IH and other mods.

The sad thing is, newer mods don't work on older game versions.

You'll just have to manually check from the READMEs or install IH to check compatibility.

On the off chance it doesn't work, you'll just have to find archived MGSV threads to get the collection mod pack that works for the version that's specified in the archived thread.

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f11708  No.16747142

File: b64d245ff4232ab⋯.jpg (2.29 MB, 2480x3508, 620:877, metal_gear_traditional.jpg)

>>16745588

I used to think the skulls were terrifying before I realised you could just get the one sniper rifle or whatever and basically two shot them. Either way, they made for decent foes until you know the cheese.

I think you could argue we got two bosses in MGSV. The Man on Fire has to count even if he's pretty easy. The second is the game being an unfinished and mess with cut content staring you in the face and an entire chapter missing that will never ever be complete

you feel it too don't you

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32b9fe  No.16747145

>>16745597

>that shiny ass

nice

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78f3b3  No.16747166

File: c693e9eb71b4fb7⋯.jpg (1.18 MB, 1517x2000, 1517:2000, MGS2.jpg)

Its been 21 years since the first MGS came out, why the fuck isnt there a level editor? It would be cool to have a metal gear maker type game with content from previous games.

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38aa57  No.16747185

>>16747166

Why the fuck did they just outright drop Natasha again? She’s my favorite advisor.

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8c8086  No.16747294

File: b84df073208cd79⋯.jpg (45.66 KB, 531x297, 59:33, chico mgsv tpp (unused).jpg)

File: ceba14a5d1e970e⋯.png (990.75 KB, 1280x748, 320:187, child soldiers.png)

File: dc510ee38fa1f8d⋯.png (2.01 MB, 1600x900, 16:9, kingdom of the flies.png)

File: 1d2d7c4d2b1f49f⋯.jpg (703.89 KB, 1910x2560, 191:256, back cover.jpg)

>>16741150

Anyone want MGSV art book? Here you go PDF

https://vk.com/doc16433341_439099234?hash=05c30bfcfc5b57175a&dl=a021f75b56b189b0ba

One of my favorite game and I 100% like three times

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8c8086  No.16747344

File: 81ec51f581f04da⋯.jpg (148.92 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mission 11.jpg)

File: 533596700ae2286⋯.jpg (67.6 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, man on fire water pistol.jpg)

File: 24c3c41b6a2794b⋯.jpg (24.16 KB, 640x360, 16:9, white mamba.jpg)

File: e7ff76156f9afc8⋯.jpg (54.97 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, bullet sponge.jpg)

>>16747142

>>16745588

Phantom Pain had a few bosses

Skull units (mist, camo, armor)

Quiet

The Man on Fire

Eli

Sahelanthropus

Quiet, Eli, and Man on Fire were all pretty good with a few different ways to take them down.

Quiet you could call in supply drop on her head, environmental damage from shooting at the ruins and having them collapse on top of her, sleeping gas, rocket arm etc.

Eli I liked to throw an empty magazine at his head or you can snipe him from the pier or enter CQC fight with him

Man on Fire you could get in jeep and knock him off a cliff, shoot at the water tanks when he's near them, get him to fall in the water reservoir, fulton extract him, wait for the rain to come, hit him with fully upgraded stun arm, or just call in helicopter and run away from him.

Sahelanthropus was nonsense bullet sponge especially on mission 50 extreme.

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6cdfbd  No.16747610

File: 87c6974c66ad708⋯.png (3.46 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, mgsvtpp_2017_05_15_05_40_2….png)

>>16747344

Sahelanthropus was pretty spooky, especially in the extract huey mission.

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a26757  No.16747757

File: 0f94d6d931732d2⋯.webm (11.86 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Mgs_tpp 2019.08.02 - 01.4….webm)

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fa42f9  No.16747897

>>16747610

Really? I wasn't scared so much as annoyed I lost my vehicle.

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a26757  No.16748060

File: d1b82b1ada5d93a⋯.webm (8.58 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Metal Gear Solid V The P….webm)

>mgsv

Soulless garbage

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8243a1  No.16748063

File: fefb81ff5e02ed7⋯.png (609.86 KB, 500x1193, 500:1193, purple_hair.png)

>>16747294

Thanks.

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78f3b3  No.16748064

File: 4f8999a2478ad36⋯.gif (2.98 MB, 480x288, 5:3, Shiggy.gif)

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a26757  No.16748066

File: 8bab7bb7fcc66cb⋯.webm (2.87 MB, 1280x1024, 5:4, 0.webm)

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fc3f53  No.16748072

>>16748066

>>16748060

Wow, literally unplayable.

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a26757  No.16748092

File: 2a93bb7867c3d21⋯.webm (6.01 MB, 960x540, 16:9, _.webm)

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a91a88  No.16749749

>>16747091

Infinite Heaven does work with the latest pirate version (1.15), I know since I had to redownload the game just for the update. All you have to do is what I said here: >>16741153

Rename the game's folder to 'MGS_TPP' or you'll get stuck in an infinite loading screen.

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c116db  No.16751091

>>16745443

>kojima embezzled 80 million dollars to develop personal VR headset with smell simulation to sniff joosten feet in VR

>>16747757

>not a single NPC is equally top-skilled in 2 or more teams becuase the auto-sort that's on by default would shit itself

>you can't temporarily overstaff teams

>game can't parse the portraits in real time

it's the little things that piss me off

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79821a  No.16751157

>>16741260

Doom 2016 would need a mod that redistributes all of the enemy encounters before I would bother playing it again.

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79821a  No.16751180

>>16742425

Even though he is grossly exaggerating, I can kinda see where he is coming from. on the items and gadgets because buddies make the game ridiculously easy compared to previous games.

The magically invisible D-Dog who is undetectable, spots enemies through walls and gives you free silent takedowns from range and around corners.

I never even bothered using Quiet after a while because she just makes the game too easy. Half the fun of MGS is figuring out kooky ways to avoid, fool or dispose of guards. Quiet makes the game boring and her humming is annoying as fuck. And she looks better IRL anyways.

I settled on using D-Walker for most of the game. It's very fast and I can mount a missile launcher on it, which is good for taking out armored vehicles in a pinch or causing a diversion.

I do slightly regret not using D-Horse more, she does have some creative applications.

But regardless, D-Dog alone causes a huge number of items to become redundant.

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72a98f  No.16751226

>>16745508

>AI is really good

Come the fuck off it. You can tweak the hearing and sight distance in Infinite Heaven and kicking it up to something realistic makes the game more playable. But their behavior is 100% scripted and there’s only one script. They only ever walk where they’re told to walk. No change or randomization. When spotted, walk to sound, look around a little bit, making sure to turn 180º from the location you came so you can be shot in the back of the head, and then walk somewhere else. Never mind how few there are.

>weapon variety

That’s cool, but you get the best gun, best pistol, and best sniper immediately.

>cameras

There are cameras only in missions, and only a minuscule handful of them.

>every mechanic

Other than the AI numbers, the factions, the blending with uniforms, etc.

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79821a  No.16751231

>>16748072

Rather disappointing for a game franchise known for its attention to detail, you must admit.

The drop in quality from Ground Zeroes to Phantom Pain is pretty severe. It's clear they had a lot less pressure when they were designing that one mission. One of my greatest annoyances is just the lack of interesting gear you can find on subsistence missions. You're either getting something that's on a random soldier or nothing at all.

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78f3b3  No.16751310

>>16751180

im not grossly exaggerating you stupid gorilla nigger

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fa42f9  No.16751354

>>16748072

Literally so simple to accomplish that the coders should be ashamed and commit suicide.

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c116db  No.16751374

>>16748072

They could've either not implemented barrel with fluids at all, or do it right.

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78f3b3  No.16751384

File: d4ca1a0a7437f7a⋯.jpg (411.42 KB, 1165x1579, 1165:1579, Mr.takahiro.jpg)

>>16751354

Has any coder ever killed themselves?

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6b5551  No.16754139

File: c7621cf91c12bd9⋯.jpg (190.51 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Ghost in the Shell-Motoko2.jpg)

Anyone got any Ground Zero save data they wanna upload for me?

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8aca93  No.16754332

>>16747185

because Kojima and "muh vision!"

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8aca93  No.16754430

>>16754157

really, got the screenshot?

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149841  No.16754438

>>16754157

>about soviet generals being jewish.

>the truth is an "anti-semitic joke"

epin

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5fd807  No.16754445

File: e05a80f24bc7bed⋯.webm (7.07 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, tfw_no_proofs.webm)

>>16754157

proofs?

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5fd807  No.16754456

>>16754452

Or you've never played a good game and you're content with eating feces.

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5fd807  No.16754464

>>16754459

Scat fetishists find playing with literal shit fun, not an argument.

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8aca93  No.16754479

>>16754473

your argument is invalid nor explain how it is fun.

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5fd807  No.16754484

>>16754473

>provides no arguments as to what he finds fun in the game

>numerous examples in the thread of what makes the game inferior to previous entries in the series

The only conclusion is that you eat shit.

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13fe36  No.16754505

>>16754157

Gonna need a source buckaroo.

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5fd807  No.16754506

>>16754499

>Feels good to play.

amazing non answer keep going.

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5fd807  No.16754603

>>16754499

>Feels good to play.

amazing non answer keep going.

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8aca93  No.16754743

File: 549d3872bc6676b⋯.jpg (42.89 KB, 787x787, 1:1, KOJUMBO.jpg)

>>16754499

>Feels good to play

sucking kojimbo dick? is that what you meant?

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5fd807  No.16754761

>>16754743

The controls aren't as sluggish and unresponsive as rdr2 therefore game is good :^)

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571baa  No.16754960

File: 6d6281b2381b502⋯.jpg (16.97 KB, 540x432, 5:4, 1172015092742.jpg)

This game really redeemed itself with Chapter 3

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5fd807  No.16754971

>>16754960

I dunno, I feel like chapter 4 was better, however not as good as the grand revelations of chapter 5

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5b1f56  No.16755003

File: 3d9d092c10b493d⋯.png (883.94 KB, 2000x1125, 16:9, sniffbrapman2.png)

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8aca93  No.16755238

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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8aca93  No.16755774

>>16754761

then play ghost recon, it's a better game

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0d8e3b  No.16756957

>>16747757

>>16751091

Is there even an option to change the loadout of the NPCs?

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8aca93  No.16757019

>>16756957

no, there none but you can change the armor in fob

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6cdfbd  No.16757048

>>16751091

>not a single NPC is equally top-skilled in 2 or more teams

That's a lie. Many of my troops are S rank in multiple units

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78f3b3  No.16757051

>>16757048

why dont you hack all your troops to be S++?

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f0bfff  No.16757548

File: 4aab79e66efc9a0⋯.jpg (89.4 KB, 1063x604, 1063:604, metal-gear-solid-peace-wal….jpg)

>>16756957

Only FOB loadouts, only viable loadout is Sniper lethal due to how broken snipers' vision is (i.e. the only not-blind NPC group)

Your shitters on base will aways go around with grade one worthless guns.

>>16757048

post proofs. In 150 hours of playing that shitheap I haven't found a single one who would have two, equal top aptitudes.

Reminder that TPP also removed individual combat stats and soldier skills.

>No SWAT

>no Pro Wrestling Maniac

>no Decoy

>no Channeler (not like there's anything on the maps to have a medium for)

>no Green Berets

>no Voice actors because Kotodama was removed, so was co-op.

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f0bfff  No.16758483

>>16758450

There was no chapter 3 to make.

There was a draft of completely retarded mission that featured shit like Liquid getting infected with assparasites and psycho mantis removing them with surgical precision using fucking magic to telefrag the parasites out of his body.

There wasn't even a chapter 2.

They should've released the devkit they showed off in promos, unless that was a fake too, I'm inclined to believe it was because there's no other explanation why all the missions are same shit over and over, due to monkeys on a typerwriter theory someone would've designed at least a few interesting missions and levels with a tool this powerful.

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1f1648  No.16758543

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1f1648  No.16758548

You think the engine is that good but so far as I see it it, it's not capable of a whole lot you couldn't do with Unreal already. Most impressive thing about it is how optimized it is.

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72a98f  No.16758657

>>16758548

>optimized

That’s a funny way to spell crippled.

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8aca93  No.16758899

>>16758657

explain boy

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b470a5  No.16759101

>>16758899

Not him but they had to cut a lot of stuff from the game in their work for making the engine run on the PS3 and 360. Stuff like very simple level geometry and no more than 25 (I think) loaded characters at the same time. Reports from PES development indicate that the Fox Engine is also an absolute nightmare to work with thanks to several hard-coded limitations and hostile development tools.

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6cdfbd  No.16759637

>>16757548

>only viable loadout is Sniper lethal

If you use long-range lethal on intel and development platform you're a retard. Best for those is short-range non-lethal.

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f0bfff  No.16760207

>>16759101

>no more than 25 (I think)

24 is the hard limit before the crash, 12 enemies maximum on screen, anything above 12 and below 24 furthest from player's position turns into smoke.

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d64d74  No.16760346

>>16757548

The odd thing for me is how deep the PW system was for such a "small" game.

granted i played it emulated and just for the story, not as a bored teenager with a PSP, there i can see myself wasting hours and hours on it

>>16760207

No wonder bases feel undermanned

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2d9712  No.16761279

>>16741160

In metal gear survive you can actually get the haven trooper armor.

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fca649  No.16764830

File: f6bbb195396caac⋯.png (114.67 KB, 197x240, 197:240, ^B371EFEA000E1A83ABCD31380….png)

MGSV is shit. Not even worth a play. There's no mods that can make the game decent.

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5d0357  No.16764857

>>16764830

Just close your eyes and pretend it's not a MGS game. Bam, you are now having fun

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5530e1  No.16764864

>>16764857

>running around 2 empty desserts

>"fun"

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fad5b2  No.16764881

>>16764830

Sadly true.

The only metal gear i've not bothered to finish.

Especially cause it add two of the most dreaded and hated (by me) gameplay mechanics in videogames. Especially single player ones. Farming and backtracking.

Redoing the same shit over and over for resources is shit. I fucking hate it. Is the cheap way to add content to a cheap game without actually adding anything to it.

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c0e058  No.16777467

>>16742383

>joost feet

So would I, anon, so would I

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e6c0d4  No.16777519

>>16764830

The god damn openworld meme killed it.

They should have used Peace Walker's structure but with Ground Zeroes' level design for the areas.

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2f0d5a  No.16777540

I suspect this game is can become really fun when playing it hudless and/or trying to ghost it. Very hard for a first playtrough tho.

For a first playtrough I'd advise you to ignore your inner completionist and just play trough the main missions without doing that much side missions. If you get ocd mode on this game it will drag on.

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ddfa1b  No.16777569

File: f0618c60a4f3d82⋯.png (220.96 KB, 362x346, 181:173, are you kidding me.png)

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e8937f  No.16777643

File: 22ae067b142a569⋯.png (2.65 MB, 1920x7356, 160:613, konamianon_on_mgsv.png)

Ground Zeros showed potential, but of course Kojimbo fucked it all up. Also no David Hayter = No Buy

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5530e1  No.16777645

>>16777643

>cuckchan screencap

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e8937f  No.16777647

>>16777645

It was posted on 8/v/ awhile ago, I don't know where it came from.

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a72e38  No.16777664

File: 747c500bc6bfc0b⋯.jpg (246.02 KB, 1761x1080, 587:360, 747c500bc6bfc0b3c6e076f6a8….jpg)

>>16742383

>no content

There's a lot of bland busywork.

>you dont even play as big boss

True but I don't see how that's relevant to the game's quality.

>the game is unfinished

True.

>majority of the main missions suck ass and are just repeats of the same mission with parameter added

True.

>despite being the biggest MGS game, its completely empty and shallow, feeling much smaller than even peace walker

No

>enemies suck, their AI sucks and they arent that much of a threat

MGSV has the smartest enemy AI yet. I do however agree that the later upgrades make you way too strong but you're big boss after all.

>only see helicopters, tanks and APCs during main missions or at some side ops

So, almost always?

>least weapon variety out of all the MGS games, most of them are useless in favor of the tranq and all the stocks/barrels/magazines/scopes,etc are useless and do nothing

Objectively wrong.

>most of the games story is conveyed through tapes, meaning snake almost never talks in game or in cutscene

Good.

>despite XOF being the main evil bad guy force you only see them 3 times in the entire game and they dont appear anywhere else

True

>buddy system that blows ass and makes the game even easier

The horse and D-Walker are useful.

>stealth is made extremely easy now that you can just mark everyone and see them through walls at all times

MGS was never hard.

>items and gadgets are completely useless

Objectively wrong, literally everything has a use.

>you get a shit camo selection with no camo index to tell you if they're actually working

You have to be retarded to not figure out that woodland camo makes you harder to see in the jungle. You're also a faggot if you played as anything other than female soldiers in swimsuits.

>skulls being shitty minibosses that only appear in missions

True.

>no indoor enviroments to sneak around in

True.

>almost no cameras in the game

There are cameras in appropriate places. Cameras in abandoned Afghan villages wouldn't make any sense.

>you have to unlock everything, wasting time on waiting for a slight upgrade to a gun you already have instead of finding a new gun or getting a drop from a boss that you took down non-lethally

Don't see how that's a negative, instead of items you just get blueprints from bosses. If you don't like waiting for unlocks just mod the game.

>there arent many bosses in the game and you dont get anything for killing them non lethally

True.

>volgin gets brought back for a mission or two then dies in some side op, you dont get some cool unlockable from MGS3 for killing him

You do, you get his horse.

>content that was from MGS3 is a DLC instead of an unlockable

True.

>you dont get a suit for beating the game instead its DLC

True but you do get a Gray Fox nostalgia costume, Snake's signature bandana and a silver arm.

>FOB shit

Nothing wrong with those.

>FOB has exclusive content you cant use in the main game

Like what?

>only time the game is somewhat challenging is FOB

Yes.

>you never see kaz or ocelot outside of a few cutscenes, you cant even call them on the codec

Not really a con considering that they talk to you all the time.

>mechanics are a downgrade from MGS4 in everyway

Mechanics are an upgrade from MGS4 in every way.

>MGO3 was dogshit that died after a week

It was actually still alive 2 years ago, don't know if that's still the case.

>no coop

Sucks, agreed.

>long boring helicopter rides with HIDEO KOJIMA slapped on the screen at every chance he gets

Kojima is a massive faggot but the rides are only long at the beginning, the upgraded helicopter makes them a lot faster.

>all the character customisation is locked to multiplayer

True.

>no secret content from previous MGS games except for the shit that was already in ground zeroes

There is Raiden's suit but ok.

>doesnt feel like an MGS game, more like someones unreal engine 4 fanfic project

It's just upgraded Peace Walker.

>the game has no ending

True.

>the game doesnt end with you playing as solid snake killing venom snake in an epic boss battle

True.

>the entire game was made only to give a reason as to how big boss escaped the explosion at outer heaven

No idea, maybe.

Overall I'd rate your opinion complete shit out of 10 and you obviously never even finished the game. And I don't even like MGSV, I just spent too much time playing it.

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5530e1  No.16777666

>>16777664

nice blogpost kid, but i dont care about your niggertits "argument"

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5ae011  No.16777699

File: 0f167c5bb6ed65c⋯.jpeg (52.65 KB, 1125x1034, 1125:1034, 0f167c5bb6ed65ce937651868….jpeg)

>>16777519

>They should have used Peace Walker's structure but with Ground Zeroes' level design for the areas

What could have been

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c4afc2  No.16778240

>>16777645

>>16777647

A reminder that this thread is old, like really old

https://archive.li/aUhSH

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6a33c8  No.16778352

>>16777699

Peace Walker's structure was pretty bad.

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2dbb12  No.16778392

>>16741150

The only gameplay issue is the level design, open fields of nothingness does not make a fun stealth game.

I doubt there are any big mods that change the environment in a way that could fix this

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cb098e  No.16778394

File: daf50c35bf39dc2⋯.jpg (10.7 KB, 320x272, 20:17, numbers man.jpg)

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5530e1  No.16778398

>>16777647

>doesnt know where it came from

You clearly know it came from cuckchan

>>16778240

The thread being old doesnt excuse the cuckchan screencap, and i know its old, i posted in it before 8chan got shutdown and people are still getting assblasted that MGSV is a shit game worse than MGS4, even though MGS4 isnt as bad as cucks and niggers claim

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72d9ca  No.16778416

>>16778352

Peace Walker's structure was fine, it let the game have less downtime and led to more replay value. It's restrictive environments were the main problem.

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5d7463  No.16781095

>>16747757

> Dark Ox

Aka

Black Bull?

:^)

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c4afc2  No.16784129

>>16781095

get out

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